But one hope for 2016

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I hope that a Republican candidate wins in 2016 and figures out a way to bring obama up on criminal charges. Strip him of his life time pay and security.Put him in jail for 9 years or what ever it is with secret service protection. Is this to much to ask. I know it wont happen but I can dream.

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Wishful thinking is not productive.

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Now that will be construed as discriminating agisnt a balck guy and will be either immediately shot down or tied up in investigations and studies for the rest of time.

Good thought however!

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Ideas come from dreamers, inventions come from ideas, reality comes from inventions. Chris Columbus was a dreamer and you know where that went.

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I hope that a Republican candidate wins in 2016 and figures out a way to bring obama up on criminal charges. Strip him of his life time pay and security.Put him in jail for 9 years or what ever it is with secret service protection. Is this to much to ask. I know it wont happen but I can dream.

Why don't we put all the republican Presidents in JAIL. Like BUSH going to war for no reason. Leaving the economy in turmoil.

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I'd be happy if Obama left office in 2017 and disappeared into obscurity. But, that won't happen, he will be like a turd that won't flush.

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Why don't we put all the republican Presidents in JAIL. Like BUSH going to war for no reason. Leaving the economy in turmoil.

Now that is a profound and inaccurate statement !

If "my guy" screws the pooch, let me see..ignore that and go after the last guy.

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Now that is a profound and inaccurate statement !



No, it was a very accurate statement. Weasel Bush and his pupper master Cheney took this country into war, cost thousands of lives, thousands more mutilated, billions of wasted dollars - all done on a lie.

Both Bush and Cheney would be tried for war crimes in the World Court if they ever left the USA.

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that last sentence about war crimes is a ridiculous assertion!

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that last sentence about war crimes is a ridiculous assertion!

While we are all GUEST, you get to know posters, and this guy does not read the current news, and is all wrapped up in websites that preach the progressive message, which up to now us to blame Bush for everything, despite what is happening around him.

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No, it was a very accurate statement. Weasel Bush and his pupper master Cheney took this country into war, cost thousands of lives, thousands more mutilated, billions of wasted dollars - all done on a lie.

Both Bush and Cheney would be tried for war crimes in the World Court if they ever left the USA.

What about Hillary? She also supported the action to take the country to war. Oh, you conveniently forgot about her, huh?

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While we are all GUEST, you get to know posters, and this guy does not read the current news, and is all wrapped up in websites that preach the progressive message, which up to now us to blame Bush for everything, despite what is happening around him.

That's the point. They are so naive and ignorant that they are being given socialism and told it is a new thing called being Progressive. The joke is on these poor unfortunate fools that will have to pay for their folly long after we are gone. And the whole time, they will be instructed to grumble a blame Bush for their plight. A pathetic bunch, at best.

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That's the point. They are so naive and ignorant that they are being given socialism and told it is a new thing called being Progressive. The joke is on these poor unfortunate fools that will have to pay for their folly long after we are gone. And the whole time, they will be instructed to grumble a blame Bush for their plight. A pathetic bunch, at best.

I agree. It is nearly impossible to educate the profoundly ignorant.

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While we are all GUEST, you get to know posters, and this guy does not read the current news, and is all wrapped up in websites that preach the progressive message, which up to now us to blame Bush for everything, despite what is happening around him.

Just the typical overdose of Kool-aid

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Has W. Bush or Cheney visited Europe since leaving office? Chances are they would be arrested and tried as war criminals at the World Court.

If this is not true, why haven't either of them visited Europe?

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Has W. Bush or Cheney visited Europe since leaving office? Chances are they would be arrested and tried as war criminals at the World Court.

If this is not true, why haven't either of them visited Europe?

Naw, Bush is too busy ridding Africa of HIV. Unlike Hilary, who had a jolly good time gallivanting about the world on the people's dime, Bush is still dedicated to helping others. You are an ignorant lad. Perhaps you should spend more time in the school library, than playing video games on your iphone.

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Has W. Bush or Cheney visited Europe since leaving office? Chances are they would be arrested and tried as war criminals at the World Court.

If this is not true, why haven't either of them visited Europe?

Instead of asking us, why don't you send them an email and ask them.

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Has W. Bush or Cheney visited Europe since leaving office? Chances are they would be arrested and tried as war criminals at the World Court.

If this is not true, why haven't either of them visited Europe?

I don't know, maybe for the same reason that you haven't visited Gabon.

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Is there a point to this thread?

Personal Best Regards:

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Has W. Bush or Cheney visited Europe since leaving office? Chances are they would be arrested and tried as war criminals at the World Court.

If this is not true, why haven't either of them visited Europe?

From what whacko website did you get this logic ?

MAN, you are in bizarro world with this stuff.

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Now that is a profound and inaccurate statement !

If "my guy" screws the pooch, let me see..ignore that and go after the last guy.

He attacked a country that did not attack the US....he ordered torture

End of Story.....

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He attacked a country that did not attack the US....he ordered torture

End of Story.....

And, Obama attacked Syria which did not attack the US...he bombed a hospital.

End of Story.

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And, Obama attacked Syria which did not attack the US...he bombed a hospital.

End of Story.

President Obama DESTROYED LIBYA.......

"Barack Obama destroyed Libya.

What he did to Libya is as bad as what Bush did to Iraq and Afghanistan. He doesn't deserve a historical pass."

This is from a PROGRESSIVE website....

"To Obama's credit, he admits that he screwed up in Libya. Unfortunately, he drew the wrong lesson. In 2014, he told an interviewer that a large ground invasion force might have helped Libya's post-Gaddafi government succeed. Because that worked so well in Iraq and Afghanistan. But if he really believes that, why doesn't he order in the troops?

Obama's real mistake was to depose a secular socialist autocrat and allow him to be replaced by a bunch of crazy religious fundamentalist militias whose factionalism ensured they'd never be able to govern.

Bush committed this error in Iraq. Obama made it in Libya. And now he's doing it again in Syria."

Obama Destroyed Libya | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community (http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/02/17/obama-destroyed-libya)

You folks who view the world through a strict politics only prism are really missing the boat. This President and this party have conned everyone and they do it agressively (agressive attack is the new Democratic party since Obama).

The world is on fire folks....look around

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Bush attacked a country that violated the no fly zone. He also attacked a dictator that used WMDs on his own people, killing hundreds of thousands of citizens and buried them in a mass grave. I was there when they uncovered it. Sadaam along with his brother(s) cruised the Baghdad and kidnapped young women, taking them back to their palace, raping them and then killing them. That's fact also. So, when you say Bush attacked an innocent country, well the country was innocent but Sadaam wasn't and the people that I talked to were very happy that he was gone.

But, what would you know, having never paid your country back for what you owe it. There used to be a saying that I heard in Vietnam that I have no idea the origin that goes something like this:

"For those that fight for it, freedom has a flavor that the protected will never taste."
Probably not exact wording, but you get the idea.

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Obama uses drones....people seem to like that better than real war but it still kills, it still causes upheaval....

"He's the war-ending President who, as of Tuesday, has ordered airstrikes in seven different countries (that we know of)."

Countries bombed by the U.S. under Obama administration - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/politics/countries-obama-bombed/)

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He attacked a country that did not attack the US....he ordered torture

End of Story.....

Your ignorance knows no bounds.

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Why don't we put all the republican Presidents in JAIL. Like BUSH going to war for no reason. Leaving the economy in turmoil.
Hillary and Joe voted in favor of going to the war you are speaking of. At least Congress got to vote on that one, not like Emperor Obama who does what he prefers with executive order bypassing Congress.

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But, what would you know, having never paid your country back for what you owe it. There used to be a saying that I heard in Vietnam that I have no idea the origin that goes something like this:

"For those that fight for it, freedom has a flavor that the protected will never taste."
Probably not exact wording, but you get the idea.

In Vietnam? That was a civil war and the US had no reason to be there and yet it cost over 58,000 American lives - and the USA lost.

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Obama uses drones....people seem to like that better than real war but it still kills, it still causes upheaval....

"He's the war-ending President who, as of Tuesday, has ordered airstrikes in seven different countries (that we know of)."

Countries bombed by the U.S. under Obama administration - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/politics/countries-obama-bombed/)

It's no use. No matter what you say and prove, he is a liberal. There is no chance of reasoning with someone that is totally brainwashed by lies and unethical conduct. National Security means absolutely nothing to them. Morals are based on mythical Bible lore and to be discounted. Ethics? No such thing. Their philosophy is "give the people what they want." Fly now and pay later, or better yet, fly now and send the bill to those that have more than you.

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And, Obama attacked Syria which did not attack the US...he bombed a hospital.

End of Story.

Now this is funny.....His weak when he doesn't attack ISIS aka Syria and I believe the military still in country fighting a war Bush started bombed a hospital.

End of Story

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In Vietnam? That was a civil war and the US had no reason to be there and yet it cost over 58,000 American lives - and the USA lost.

Nice try :censored: Vietnam, another Democrat war. But, great way to change the discussion when you are losing.

Too bad they don't have the draft so that you could pay back the country for your waste.

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Hillary and Joe voted in favor of going to the war you are speaking of. At least Congress got to vote on that one, not like Emperor Obama who does what he prefers with executive order bypassing Congress.


How many signing statements did Bush sign stating what part of the law he would enforce?

GW Bush issued 291 executive orders during his Presidency
Obama has issued 203 executive orders so far.....

You lose on this one.

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And we all know he/she/? is not only liberal but a contrarian liberal....maybe that is a double entente'.

The positions taken are more for effect than intelligence. It has to be because there is no intelligence involved.

As for W going to Europe....I guess if he did not have a camera following him around advertizing his agenda like Obama....that must mean he did not leave the country.......really makes no sense at all but fits whayt has been said in the above sentences.

Like a kid screaming for attention no thought involved just move the lips!! (Obama like)

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Nice try :censored: Vietnam, another Democrat war. But, great way to change the discussion when you are losing.

Too bad they don't have the draft so that you could pay back the country for your waste.

Hey I all for the draft!!! Check out the D behind my name.

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And we all know he/she/? is not only liberal but a contrarian liberal....maybe that is a double entente'.

The positions taken are more for effect than intelligence. It has to be because there is no intelligence involved.

As for W going to Europe....I guess if he did not have a camera following him around advertizing his agenda like Obama....that must mean he did not leave the country.......really makes no sense at all but fits whayt has been said in the above sentences.

Like a kid screaming for attention no thought involved just move the lips!! (Obama like)

I realize that facts are something we do not like to use but here is the story.

Bush was scheduled to visit Switzerland, I think in 2011 to speak at a Jewish charity event. He canceled the trip because of left wing threats to boycott and demonstrate loudly at the event.

The leftist websites in the country took that and ran with it posting it mostly as an academic question since they had no facts to support their allegations.

It is nothing new and notice that Bush, always being a stand up guy, just kept his mouth shut. And by the way, most of the turmoil had to do with water boarding and NOT Iraq.

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How many signing statements did Bush sign stating what part of the law he would enforce?

GW Bush issued 291 executive orders during his Presidency
Obama has issued 203 executive orders so far.....

You lose on this one.

It is not the number of executive orders but the content that is relevant.

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How many signing statements did Bush sign stating what part of the law he would enforce?

GW Bush issued 291 executive orders during his Presidency
Obama has issued 203 executive orders so far.....

You lose on this one.

You know, if I were you I would check on the content of those executive orders. You progressive websites do not share that...they count on folks like you who do not check on the details.

When you do not do that...

" President Obama has issued a form of executive action known as the presidential memorandum more often than any other president in history — using it to take unilateral action even as he has signed fewer executive orders.

When these two forms of directives are taken together, Obama is on track to take more high-level executive actions than any president since Harry Truman battled the "Do Nothing Congress" almost seven decades ago, according to a USA TODAY review of presidential documents."

Obama issues 'executive orders by another name' (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/16/obama-presidential-memoranda-executive-orders/20191805/)

Then please take the time to learn the subject matter of what was in all these executive actions. You will be shocked at the gravity in the Obama moves and the incidental little trite stuff done by Bush.

It is a learning experience.

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Now this is funny.....His weak when he doesn't attack ISIS aka Syria and I believe the military still in country fighting a war Bush started bombed a hospital.

End of Story

Are you really that ignorant? Obama is the Commander-in-Chief, the military takes direction from him. What?, Obama takes credit when the military kills Bin Laden, but it is Bush's fault when Obama directs the military to bomb a hospital. You are beyond stupid.

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Now this is funny.....His weak when he doesn't attack ISIS aka Syria and I believe the military still in country fighting a war Bush started bombed a hospital.

End of Story

Just when we think we have all the dumbest things folks can make up we get a surprise like this.
I think it does exhibit a serious issue with know anything at all about what is being said.

One step short of a squirrel walking across the keyboard!

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This thread is almost sufficient evidence that the intended use of the new political forum has become overwhelmed with total and complete nonsense. And unfortunately, including me, have been sucked in by the baiting and attempting to right the so seriously presented wrongs.

It has degenerated from a political forum, to political entertainment to a waste of time that is no where near anything truly remote to a political discussion.

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It is not the number of executive orders but the content that is relevant.

Now this gets to the heart of the matter..... just to funny.

Obama is an emperor because he is using executive orders but Bush was just doing his job all because YOU liked the one Bush was issuing.

When confronted with the facts you bob and weave!

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Your ignorance knows no bounds.

Back at ya.....

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Bush attacked a country that violated the no fly zone. He also attacked a dictator that used WMDs on his own people, killing hundreds of thousands of citizens and buried them in a mass grave. I was there when they uncovered it. Sadaam along with his brother(s) cruised the Baghdad and kidnapped young women, taking them back to their palace, raping them and then killing them. That's fact also. So, when you say Bush attacked an innocent country, well the country was innocent but Sadaam wasn't and the people that I talked to were very happy that he was gone.

But, what would you know, having never paid your country back for what you owe it. There used to be a saying that I heard in Vietnam that I have no idea the origin that goes something like this:

"For those that fight for it, freedom has a flavor that the protected will never taste."
Probably not exact wording, but you get the idea.

While this may all be true Iraq NEVER directly or even indirectly attacked the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Therefore Bush attacked a country that had NOT attacked us.....

Just the facts.

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Are you really that ignorant? Obama is the Commander-in-Chief, the military takes direction from him. What?, Obama takes credit when the military kills Bin Laden, but it is Bush's fault when Obama directs the military to bomb a hospital. You are beyond stupid.

The irony in your statement is considerable.....

Obama takes the credit when the MILITARY kills Bin Laden but Obama bombed the hospital NOT the military.....

And you are calling me STUPID? :censored:

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This thread is almost sufficient evidence that the intended use of the new political forum has become overwhelmed with total and complete nonsense. And unfortunately, including me, have been sucked in by the baiting and attempting to right the so seriously presented wrongs.

It has degenerated from a political forum, to political entertainment to a waste of time that is no where near anything truly remote to a political discussion.

I agree. Let's face it, everyone pretty much has their mind made up as to what party they are going to vote for.We are in our 60s 70s and 80s and are not going to change our minds at this stage in life. People on this thread present their own version of the facts, some using tabloid sources to back up their opinion. Others respond to any political topic with a stream of vitriol against the "low life leftists" even if that is not the topic of conversation. They apparently have so much hate they have to release it somewhere. I too got sucked in and tried to present a more factual account at one point, but it was clearly a waste of time. I look in here once in awhile for the entertainment value but otherwise avoid it like the plague.

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Hey I all for the draft!!! Check out the D behind my name.

More like an "S" for socialist or "C" for commie. The only draft you endorse is one for someone else. Typical liberal that enjoys the fruits of other folks' labors.

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How many signing statements did Bush sign stating what part of the law he would enforce?

GW Bush issued 291 executive orders during his Presidency
Obama has issued 203 executive orders so far.....

You lose on this one.

Oh? Did Bush institute any EO's that countered congressional vote? Did Bush sign any EO's that the people didn't want? Did he sign any that the supreme court said were unlawful? Better do some research before running amok with your attacks, son. Of course, once pushed into a corner, you will weasel out of it by diverting again. Same as always......blame Bush or name call.

Oh, and by the way....I believe Obama has bombed twice as many countries as Bush, and that was my count as of 2014. So, go back to your basement and play your video games with the other kids, or get ready for school.

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I'd say he better spend more time practicing his "would you like fries with that order?"

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More like an "S" for socialist or "C" for commie. The only draft you endorse is one for someone else. Typical liberal that enjoys the fruits of other folks' labors.

I'll put up my families military history against yours....

I'm for the draft so that all families share in the experience... I have 3 in the military now one with 5 tours in Iraq and the purple heart.

Your insults are wasted over here. :boom:

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Oh? Did Bush institute any EO's that countered congressional vote? Did Bush sign any EO's that the people didn't want? Did he sign any that the supreme court said were unlawful? Better do some research before running amok with your attacks, son. Of course, once pushed into a corner, you will weasel out of it by diverting again. Same as always......blame Bush or name call.

Oh, and by the way....I believe Obama has bombed twice as many countries as Bush, and that was my count as of 2014. So, go back to your basement and play your video games with the other kids, or get ready for school.

Your are deflecting not me... I only pointed out the exact number of EO's

:blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

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I'll put up my families military history against yours....



Who gives a rat's behind?

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How do these topics get so twisted around to something else.

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How many signing statements did Bush sign stating what part of the law he would enforce?

GW Bush issued 291 executive orders during his Presidency
Obama has issued 203 executive orders so far.....

You lose on this one.

Just for the record...

"But an analysis of the number of executive orders is incomplete. As John Hudak of the Brookings Institution pointed out, “not all executive orders are created equal. Some are quite forceful, making dramatic changes to policy. Others are more routine, housekeeping issues. To say that one president issued more executive orders than another, tells us little about the scope of those orders or the impact they have on policy.”

Measuring the Content, Not Just the Number, of Executive Orders and Proclamations | Mercatus (http://mercatus.org/publication/measuring-content-not-just-number-executive-orders-and-proclamations)

"President Obama has issued a form of executive action known as the presidential memorandum more often than any other president in history — using it to take unilateral action even as he has signed fewer executive orders.

When these two forms of directives are taken together, Obama is on track to take more high-level executive actions than any president since Harry Truman battled the "Do Nothing Congress" almost seven decades ago, according to a USA TODAY review of presidential documents.

Obama issues 'executive orders by another name' (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/16/obama-presidential-memoranda-executive-orders/20191805/)

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and when the urinating contest of numbers subsides, what is important is the reality of today and the incompetence currently occupying the WH.

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Who gives a rat's behind?

To afraid to compare?

Just throw the commie insult....

So small minded anything an inch left of you is Commie.

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Just for the record...

"But an analysis of the number of executive orders is incomplete. As John Hudak of the Brookings Institution pointed out, “not all executive orders are created equal. Some are quite forceful, making dramatic changes to policy. Others are more routine, housekeeping issues. To say that one president issued more executive orders than another, tells us little about the scope of those orders or the impact they have on policy.”

Measuring the Content, Not Just the Number, of Executive Orders and Proclamations | Mercatus (http://mercatus.org/publication/measuring-content-not-just-number-executive-orders-and-proclamations)

"President Obama has issued a form of executive action known as the presidential memorandum more often than any other president in history — using it to take unilateral action even as he has signed fewer executive orders.

When these two forms of directives are taken together, Obama is on track to take more high-level executive actions than any president since Harry Truman battled the "Do Nothing Congress" almost seven decades ago, according to a USA TODAY review of presidential documents.

Obama issues 'executive orders by another name' (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/16/obama-presidential-memoranda-executive-orders/20191805/)

Spin Spin Spin are you dizzy yet????

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that last sentence about war crimes is a ridiculous assertion!

I agree. It's about as ridiculous as the OP's statement about putting the current president in prison.

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This thread is almost sufficient evidence that the intended use of the new political forum has become overwhelmed with total and complete nonsense. And unfortunately, including me, have been sucked in by the baiting and attempting to right the so seriously presented wrongs.

It has degenerated from a political forum, to political entertainment to a waste of time that is no where near anything truly remote to a political discussion.

Dear Guest: I asked on post #19) what's the point of this thread.
What we have here is a real school yard brawl of my dad can beat up your dad

Personal Best Regards:

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I'll put up my families military history against yours....

I'm for the draft so that all families share in the experience... I have 3 in the military now one with 5 tours in Iraq and the purple heart.

Your insults are wasted over here. :boom:

Yes, I noticed that you KNOW someone in the military. Convenient to KNOW someone in the military. Most liberals are more than willing to have someone else do the work. Someone else to pay the bills for you.

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Your are deflecting not me... I only pointed out the exact number of EO's

:blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

Yes, facts are a bit too much for you. You can't answer this one. It's way above your knowledge level and you are too lazy to check it out. You make false charges or use a simple (describes you well) general statements that mean nothing. Kind of like saying there were more blue skies during Obama than during Bush. Nothing but general statements that show how ignorant you are.

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Spin Spin Spin are you dizzy yet????

You are probably dizzy from all of the information that you are too busy to check out yourself. You are ignorant of fact and ignorant people tend to stay ignorant. It's usually a trait of the lazy.

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You are probably dizzy from all of the information that you are too busy to check out yourself. You are ignorant of fact and ignorant people tend to stay ignorant. It's usually a trait of the lazy.

Oh great more insults.....gotta love it!

Are you old enough to live here or are you visiting your grandparents?

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Oh great more insults.....gotta love it!

Are you old enough to live here or are you visiting your grandparents?

Ah, so I was correct. And don't use insults on here if you can't take them yourself. And isn't it kind of lame to use the age thing on me when it is you that has to get up and ready for school? Insults from the liberal is the norm, but when you are on the receiving end, you suddenly get offended? :cryin2:

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His school bus must have arrived.

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His school bus must have arrived.

He is allowed to go to school?

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He is allowed to go to school?

He is, but he will be a little late today. His grandparents forgot to unlock the door to the basement.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

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Ah, so I was correct. And don't use insults on here if you can't take them yourself. And isn't it kind of lame to use the age thing on me when it is you that has to get up and ready for school? Insults from the liberal is the norm, but when you are on the receiving end, you suddenly get offended? :cryin2:

No offense here.....

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I'd be happy if Obama left office in 2017 and disappeared into obscurity. But, that won't happen, he will be like a turd that won't flush.

Now that is funny but sadly very true! barf