Brownwood Drug Bust

[the square]

If I missed it I apologize, but I didn't see anything about a female bartender being taken out in handcuffs from the Las Tapas restaurant in Brownwood. Under cover police took her right from behind the bar. Has anybody read anything on this. They said she was selling meth amphetamine while she was working.

[graciegirl]

If I missed it I apologize, but I didn't see anything about a female bartender being taken out in handcuffs from the Las Tapas restaurant in Brownwood. Under cover police took her right from behind the bar. Has anybody read anything on this. They said she was selling meth amphetamine while she was working.





Good.

Out the door.

I am sure that it will be in the news....somewhere soon.

I say Book em' Danno.

Did she have tattoos?

[gerryann]

Are there really meth customers here in TV?

[graciegirl]

Are there really meth customers here in TV?



I saw a couple pictures of forty-somethings arrested here in The Villages in the past months on the not named online news. VERY DARK AROUND THE EYES...

[renrod]

Breaking Bad Season 6.

[golfing eagles]

Are there really meth customers here in TV?

I guess the arrest, if true, answers that question. But the "customers" could be from outside TV---a restaurant in Brownwood is a pretty good place to sell, I doubt the narcotics police are staking out Las Tapas expecting to bust seniors on meth. Maybe some pot for glaucoma or chemotherapy, maybe some oxycodone for chronic pain, but METH????????. Hardly the drug of choice for boomers and older.

[Bonny]

If I missed it I apologize, but I didn't see anything about a female bartender being taken out in handcuffs from the Las Tapas restaurant in Brownwood. Under cover police took her right from behind the bar. Has anybody read anything on this. They said she was selling meth amphetamine while she was working.
Where did you hear this?? I have friends that work there and I haven't heard anything about it.

[manaboutown]

I saw a couple pictures of forty-somethings arrested here in The Villages in the past months on the not named online news. VERY DARK AROUND THE EYES...

I saw those photos as well, GG. Regular meth users develop sores on their faces and what is known as "meth mouth". Their teeth appear "wooden" and they start to lose them. Ugh! https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrTcXqv5xdWKtQAs9SJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTIzYz lsNGNyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZANlNjFkZTNhNzBjNjNj ZGU5MGZhNDFhNGQ3MjQzNGIzZgRncG9zAzY1BGl0A2Jpbmc-?.origin=&back=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearc h%2Fimages%3Fp%3DPhysical%2BSigns%2Bof%2BMeth%2BUs e%26fr%3Daaplw%26nost%3D1%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D6 5&w=920&h=518&imgurl=sobadsogood.com%2Fuploads%2Fstories%2F2014% 2F03%2F10%2Fmeth-user.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsobadsogood.com%2F2012%2F12%2F03 %2Fthe-many-faces-of-meth-use-before-after%2F&size=51.4KB&name=%3Cb%3EMeth%3C%2Fb%3E+Users+And+Their+Horrifi c+Before+%26+After+Photographs+%7C+So+Bad+So+...&p=Physical+Signs+of+Meth+Use&oid=e61de3a70c63cde90fa41a4d72434b3f&fr2=&fr=aaplw&tt=%3Cb%3EMeth%3C%2Fb%3E+Users+And+Their+Horrific+ Before+%26+After+Photographs+%7C+So+Bad+So+...&b=61&ni=128&no=65&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=12aj0lfl9&sigb=13c9b06aq&sigi=11ovf49l7&sigt=12fqcp77n&sign=12fqcp77n&.crumb=tkvrjWB05Dt&fr=aaplw

[Kelsie52]

We were at Las Tapas on Tuesday to see the singing waiters (dont miss them on Tuesday and Thursday) ----we waited a long time for our drinks

The waiter told us the barmaid was arrested !!! Excuse me maybe Barmaid was incorrect ! I meant the alleged female drug dealer


:sing:: beer3:: beer3:

[gerryann]

Funny...haven't heard that term "barmaid" in years.

[rubicon]

As i recollect they arrested a 60 something village resident shortly ago and charged him with meth use..... As to the female bar tender perfect spot to sell meth.

[Villager Joyce]

My mother would be pleased to know I don't know what meth is. No need to tell me. I would google it if I wanted to know.

[golfing eagles]

My mother would be placed to know I don't know what meth is. No need to tell me. I would google it if I wanted to know.

You don't want to know

[virgind]

Be serious people I think you would be surprised how many meth labs that are in and around the villages. I would imagine you could get anything here you are willing to pay for. Money draws the corrupted.

[SALYBOW]

I guess the arrest, if true, answers that question. But the "customers" could be from outside TV---a restaurant in Brownwood is a pretty good place to sell, I doubt the narcotics police are staking out Las Tapas expecting to bust seniors on meth. Maybe some pot for glaucoma or chemotherapy, maybe some oxycodone for chronic pain, but METH????????. Hardly the drug of choice for boomers and older.

When my son lived with us he served at Arnold Palmers. He worked with many young servers. One of them told Ryan that there are many Villagers who used drugs of many kinds, and not for physical abnormalities. They sell them in the parking spot behind Barnes and Nobles. If you think about it anywhere there is a multitude of people living, there will be a multitude of attitudes regarding drugs. In the Villages alcohol is the drug of choice. Just because it is a legal drug goes not mean it it to be over used like it often is here. :loco:

[golfing eagles]

When my son lived with us he served at Arnold Palmers. He worked with many young servers. One of them told Ryan that there are many Villagers who used drugs of many kinds, and not for physical abnormalities. They sell them in the parking spot behind Barnes and Nobles. If you think about it anywhere there is a multitude of people living, there will be a multitude of attitudes regarding drugs. In the Villages alcohol is the drug of choice. Just because it is a legal drug goes not mean it it to be over used like it often is here. :loco:

When I thought about it some more, there can be 20% population under 55, which in high season is over 20,000 people--certainly enough to support a number of drug dealers. Also, there may be younger, unemployed people living at home up north, so they come down for winter with mommy and daddy. If they have a habit, they would need a supplier in TV as well. Then there are the people who work in TV, they might even be in a position to know "safe" places to sell. I guess we're not immune to all the problems in the country, but a least we face them at a reduced rate
Finally, if you know they sell them in a specific parking lot, why doesn't law enforcement know it as well. I would think once the secret is out they would move somewhere else

[bagboy]

When I thought about it some more, there can be 20% population under 55, which in high season is over 20,000 people--certainly enough to support a number of drug dealers. Also, there may be younger, unemployed people living at home up north, so they come down for winter with mommy and daddy. If they have a habit, they would need a supplier in TV as well. Then there are the people who work in TV, they might even be in a position to know "safe" places to sell. I guess we're not immune to all the problems in the country, but a least we face them at a reduced rate
Finally, if you know they sell them in a specific parking lot, why doesn't law enforcement know it as well. I would think once the secret is out they would move somewhere else

I remember all the people back in the 60' and 70's who smoked pot, sniffed glue, and shot heroin to name a few drugs. And to everyones surprise, many of those people are alive and maybe not well but living in the Villages. I think it's not just the kids doing the drugs, they learned their behavior somewhere.
Drive around on the MMPs for any period of time and you'll smell skunk and in many cases there are no children around and there arent any skunks nearby either.

[Skip2MySue]

When my son lived with us he served at Arnold Palmers. He worked with many young servers. One of them told Ryan that there are many Villagers who used drugs of many kinds, and not for physical abnormalities. They sell them in the parking spot behind Barnes and Nobles. If you think about it anywhere there is a multitude of people living, there will be a multitude of attitudes regarding drugs. In the Villages alcohol is the drug of choice. Just because it is a legal drug goes not mean it it to be over used like it often is here. :loco:

No wonder it's so hard to find a parking spot at Barnes and Nobles:a20:
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[Villager Joyce]

I remember all the people back in the 60' and 70's who smoked pot, sniffed glue, and shot heroin to name a few drugs. And to everyones surprise, many of those people are alive and maybe not well but living in the Villages. I think it's not just the kids doing the drugs, they learned their behavior somewhere.
Drive around on the MMPs for any period of time and you'll smell skunk and in many cases there are no children around and there arent any skunks nearby either.

You might be referring to the society garlic plant which is planted everywhere in TV.

[anarick]

Glad to hear that there are meth labs in the villages.
I could use a brush up course in algebra.

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[bagboy]

You might be referring to the society garlic plant which is planted everywhere in TV.

No, I am referring to fellow Villagers smoking pot that smells like skunk spray. It's called skunkweed. I don't smoke pot but I've seen and smelled this stuff while my daughters neighbors smoked it.

[Villager Joyce]

No, I am referring to fellow Villagers smoking pot that smells like skunk spray. It's called skunkweed. I don't smoke pot but I've seen and smelled this stuff while my daughters neighbors smoked it.

My apologies. I am far removed from the whole drug scene, and didn't know there was a skunkweed. We couldn't figure out what the smell was until we asked friends. Wait a minute. Do you think our friends were smoking pot and lied about the smell:girlneener:

[golfing eagles]

My apologies. I am far removed from the whole drug scene, and didn't know there was a skunkweed. We couldn't figure out what the smell was until we asked friends. Wait a minute. Do you think our friends were smoking pot and lied about the smell:girlneener:

Well, at the very least there seems to be a lot of people who know way too much about it. So my question is: With all the different types of pot out there, why would anyone choose one that smells like skunk. Is there a variety that smells like armpit or dog poop? I would think one that smells like flowers or perfume would be better, I'd go for one that smells like a NY strip steak on a grill.

[Villager Joyce]

Well, at the very least there seems to be a lot of people who know way too much about it. So my question is: With all the different types of pot out there, why would anyone choose one that smells like skunk. Is there a variety that smells like armpit or dog poop? I would think one that smells like flowers or perfume would be better, I'd go for one that smells like a NY strip steak on a grill.

:BigApplause:

[bagboy]

My apologies. I am far removed from the whole drug scene, and didn't know there was a skunkweed. We couldn't figure out what the smell was until we asked friends. Wait a minute. Do you think our friends were smoking pot and lied about the smell:girlneener:

LOL, now that is a good possibility. I didn't know about skunkweed until last year. Pot always smelled like pot to me, but now there appears to be many variations and aromas. I can't imagine any amount of "high" could overcome that smell but what do I know. Before I knew of this, I thought "wow" there sure are alot of skunks in the area. Far removed from the drug scene is a very good thing.

[PennBF]

The Marion County Sheriff Office mentioned in their community education class that Marion County has the most (Approx'ly 200) meth labs in the state. It would not be a surprise that The Villages is a major marketing center/potential for these sellers. :(

[graciegirl]

Well, at the very least there seems to be a lot of people who know way too much about it. So my question is: With all the different types of pot out there, why would anyone choose one that smells like skunk. Is there a variety that smells like armpit or dog poop? I would think one that smells like flowers or perfume would be better, I'd go for one that smells like a NY strip steak on a grill.



For a conservative community there is surprising support for the use of recreational marijuana. There are many posters who smoke weed here. I was REALLY surprised at this poll.


https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-non-villages-discussion-93/recreational-marijuana-107224/?highlight=marijuana+poll


I voted no. But I am kinda fun. Little kids, old men and drunks just love me.


And Sweetie enjoys his Scotch. One after dinner.

[graciegirl]

The Marion County Sheriff Office mentioned in their community education class that Marion County has the most (Approx'ly 200) meth labs in the state. It would not be a surprise that The Villages is a major marketing center/potential for these sellers. :(


I believe you are misinformed on your statistics.


Marion county has a lot of real estate that isn't The Villages.

There has been one meth lab reported in The Villages in an attic of a woman who had taken in two drifters. A sad situation after her husband died and she had lost perception. It was reported by sharp eyed neighbors and shut down at once. The ONLY murder here involved a daughter involved with the drug culture.

[golfing eagles]

The Marion County Sheriff Office mentioned in their community education class that Marion County has the most (Approx'ly 200) meth labs in the state. It would not be a surprise that The Villages is a major marketing center/potential for these sellers. :(

Don't know where he gets his facts from, but according to the DEA, Bay County in FL has the most in the state with 75
Lake County-------32
Marion County----25
Sumter County-----2

The United States of Methamphetamine: Counties with the most known meth labs in each state (crime, price) - General U.S. - City-Data Forum (http://www.city-data.com/forum/general-u-s/1802074-united-states-methamphetamine-counties-most-known.html)

[tomwed]

"methamphetamine lab seizures (31 labs in 2013 vs. 51
labs in 2014)."

2014 MCSO Annual Report - Marion County Sheriff

http://marionso.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/2014-Annual-Report_FINAL1.pdf

[outlaw]

Are there really meth customers here in TV?

Of course not. There are no bad people in TV. Don't worry, be happy.

[golfing eagles]

"methamphetamine lab seizures (31 labs in 2013 vs. 51
labs in 2014)."

2014 MCSO Annual Report - Marion County Sheriff

http://marionso.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/2014-Annual-Report_FINAL1.pdf

Perhaps the difference is the reporting year, or maybe Marion County Sheriff made some seizures that did not involve the DEA.
Either way, far short of 200 and far short of the most in the state. Tulsa, OK had 939 labs for the national record

[outlaw]

Well, at the very least there seems to be a lot of people who know way too much about it. So my question is: With all the different types of pot out there, why would anyone choose one that smells like skunk. Is there a variety that smells like armpit or dog poop? I would think one that smells like flowers or perfume would be better, I'd go for one that smells like a NY strip steak on a grill.

Maybe they are tired of everyone trying to bum a toke...

[golfing eagles]

Maybe they are tired of everyone trying to bum a toke...

Isn't that cutting off your nose (no pun intended) to spite your face?

[tomwed]

Perhaps the difference is the reporting year, or maybe Marion County Sheriff made some seizures that did not involve the DEA.
Either way, far short of 200 and far short of the most in the state. Tulsa, OK had 939 labs for the national record
You make a statement and back it with a source and a link. That's worth reading and I appreciate the extra work.

[PennBF]

The Marion County Sheriff held a 12 week education for the citizens. One session included the drug usage and YES they did say that Marion County had the most Meth Labs in the State of Florida and estimated them to be about 200.
I have no idea where or how some recreational readers of TOTV have greater knowledge of the subject than the Marion County Sheriff's organization. Also, if I am to be referred to please be accurate. I did not say nor imply anything regard the size of the meth activity in The Villages. I did say
It would not be a surprise that The Villages is a major marketing center/potential for these sellers.
Please try to be accurate and not just say what you think but not true. I stand by that statement because of its tight size of 34 square miles of land and population it would be logical that The Village's is a good market for the meth lab's to use as "customers". Now that we have that straight please try to be accurate when quoting. Take more time to read and
understand the writer.!!:ho:

[golfing eagles]

The Marion County Sheriff held a 12 week education for the citizens. One session included the drug usage and YES they did say that Marion County had the most Meth Labs in the State of Florida and estimated them to be about 200.
I have no idea where or how some recreational readers of TOTV have greater knowledge of the subject than the Marion County Sheriff's organization. Also, if I am to be referred to please be accurate. I did not say nor imply anything regard the size of the meth activity in The Villages. Please try to be accurate and not just say what you think but not true. I stand by that statement because of its tight size of 34 square miles of land and population it would be logical that The Village's is a good market for the meth lab's to use as "customers". Now that we have that straight please try to be accurate when quoting. Take more time to read and
understand the writer.!!:ho:

Wow, a little defensive?
I can't speak for what others posted in response to yours, but I will defend mine.

1) "YES they did say that Marion County had the most Meth Labs in the State of Florida and estimated them to be about 200."

I wasn't there, so I have no idea of what they SAID. What they PUBLISHED, in their 2014 annual report, on page 11, was 31 labs in 2013 and 51 in 2014

2) "I have no idea where or how some recreational readers of TOTV have greater knowledge of the subject than the Marion County Sheriff's organization."

That would be because we read what the Marion County Sheriff's office PUBLISHED. Also from the interactive map of meth labs for every county in the USA provided by the DEA. I don't just make this stuff up on a whim, there are 2 links to the location of the FACTS

3) "I did say
It would not be a surprise that The Villages is a major marketing center/potential for these sellers.
"

If you read my post #16 you will see I agree with you regarding the drug marketing potential in TV

4) "Now that we have that straight please try to be accurate when quoting. Take more time to read and
understand the writer.!"

I agree, so please do so

Please don't take this as harsh, insulting, or rude---it is just a friendly debate in which I am making my points---Unlike the Harvard debating team vs the inmates, I try not to lose.

[tomwed]

Handout 2: Debate Preparation Steps | UUA.org (http://www.uua.org/re/tapestry/youth/wholeness/workshop7/167826.shtml)
HANDOUT 2: DEBATE PREPARATION STEPS

Debate Issue: Are there Meth Customers in TV?

Step 1: Identify sources of knowledge on this issue.
Step 2: Reflect on what you know about this issue and what you have experienced related to this issue.
Step 3: Gather information! Use whatever resources are available to you.
Step 4: Seek input. What do others think about this issue?
Step 5: Weigh the information you have gathered. What makes sense to you? What does not?
Step 6: Piece together, through discussion, what you know, what you have experienced, and the information you have gathered to come to a conclusion.
Step 7: Write a statement to share in the debate that argues the conclusion you have reached.

Make sure that the statement includes some information about your sources and the process of reason you went through.

[that's too much work]
yep, there are meth customers
nope, not so many labs in Marion County that I feel bo'vered.
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[PennBF]

Not defensive but rather helping those that are being misled. The 51 being referred to. Is that what was raided/caught or estimated number in Marion County. See note as it states their estimated number in the county in total.
Not talking about all Meth Labs in USA and never referred to that source. Only the statement from the Marion County Sheriff's Office. Since the person was not there how could there be ANY knowledge of the subject that was discussed? This is not a debate it is a statement of facts and points stated. Again, my points should be read and they are based on facts as what I was given. None are made up nor without a good source other than the assumption that it would not be unreasonable to assume some of the output from the Marion County meth labs would find their way to The Villages. (As a total diversion. I was on the Debate Teams in High School and College and never considered the Harvard Debate Team very good nor competitive to
Dartmouth.!):read:

[golfing eagles]

I was on the Debate Teams in High School and College and never considered the Harvard Debate Team very good nor competitive to
Dartmouth.!):read:

I think the inmates proved that!:1rotfl:

I didn't need to be there, I had no doubt you accurately reported what was said. I think we're comparing apples and oranges. They published that the seized 51 meth labs in 2014, the speaker was ESTIMATING about 200. Since I doubt they found all of them (If they had there would be nothing for the "barmaid" to sell), there are likely many more. Is it 200? Is it 52? Is it 5,000? Who knows, that's the nature of an estimate. Is the local Sheriff more likely to make a good estimate than you, I, or the DEA?--probably.
Will the sellers gravitate to an area with buyers?--of course.

Looks like the debate is a draw/non-issue, let's have a beer:beer3:

[Chatbrat]

The locals who have lived in the area far longer than any of us village residents know the truth about the area. My massage person who is a native has told me the following. Fruit Park & Wildwood have been centers of drug active for decades, also; there are established gangs continually competing for control.

In general it doesn't affect TV-but be aware when you're out & about.

We represent a lot wealth than the average native Floridian can hope for.

[graciegirl]

The locals who have lived in the area far longer than any of us village residents know the truth about the area. My massage person who is a native has told me the following. Fruit Park & Wildwood have been centers of drug active for decades, also; there are established gangs continually competing for control.

In general it doesn't affect TV-but be aware when you're out & about.

We represent a lot wealth than the average native Floridian can hope for.



My message person is the mailman.


I am sorry. I just had to type it. NO offense meant, just a little kidding.


I can't be good for very long.

[joldnol]

For a conservative community there is surprising support for the use of recreational marijuana. There are many posters who smoke weed here. I was REALLY surprised at this poll.


https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-non-villages-discussion-93/recreational-marijuana-107224/?highlight=marijuana+poll




Why would you be surprised? Most of us are boomers and many inhaled in their youth. True conservatives who are against Government intrusion into our life's should be in favor of Colorado like laws. Pot is way more less harmful (didn't say harmless) medically and socially (someone stoned doesn't beat their spouse or get into fights) than alcohol and tobacco.

[graciegirl]

Why would you be surprised? Most of us are boomers and many inhaled in their youth. True conservatives who are against Government intrusion into our life's should be in favor of Colorado like laws. Pot is way more less harmful (didn't say harmless) medically and socially (someone stoned doesn't beat their spouse or get into fights) than alcohol and tobacco.



I am a moderate. And I inhaled. Twice. Both times I beat my spouse. He seemed to like it.

[bagboy]

I missed the story where the guy beat his wife to a pulp after smoking three camels then lamented if I only had smoked pot I would have been a much calmer person.

[circletrack]

Not defensive but rather helping those that are being misled. The 51 being referred to. Is that what was raided/caught or estimated number in Marion County. See note as it states their estimated number in the county in total.
Not talking about all Meth Labs in USA and never referred to that source. Only the statement from the Marion County Sheriff's Office. Since the person was not there how could there be ANY knowledge of the subject that was discussed? This is not a debate it is a statement of facts and points stated. Again, my points should be read and they are based on facts as what I was given. None are made up nor without a good source other than the assumption that it would not be unreasonable to assume some of the output from the Marion County meth labs would find their way to The Villages. (As a total diversion. I was on the Debate Teams in High School and College and never considered the Harvard Debate Team very good nor competitive to
Dartmouth.!):read:

If they believe there are 200, and they have only raided 51, then I estimate they have a lot of work to do.

[Patty55]

1-Is Meth the same as crack?

2-Do people really smoke skunk cabbage? Can you eat it too?

[Barefoot]

For a conservative community there is surprising support for the use of recreational marijuana. There are many posters who smoke weed here.

The Marion County Sheriff held a 12 week education for the citizens. One session included the drug usage and YES they did say that Marion County had the most Meth Labs in the State of Florida and estimated them to be about 200.

I'm not a expert at all, but I think using meth and using recreational marijuana are two very different ballgames.

[dbussone]

1-Is Meth the same as crack?



2-Do people really smoke skunk cabbage? Can you eat it too?


1) I believe crack is a form of cocaine.
2) skunk cabbage should only be served as an ingredient of skunk soup. That way the aroma becomes the square of the two ingredients.

[joldnol]

crack as someone said is crystal coke. Meth is a smokable crystalline speed or amphetamine. Both highly addictive and very destructive.

[outlaw]

I think the inmates proved that!:1rotfl:

I didn't need to be there, I had no doubt you accurately reported what was said. I think we're comparing apples and oranges. They published that the seized 51 meth labs in 2014, the speaker was ESTIMATING about 200. Since I doubt they found all of them (If they had there would be nothing for the "barmaid" to sell), there are likely many more. Is it 200? Is it 52? Is it 5,000? Who knows, that's the nature of an estimate. Is the local Sheriff more likely to make a good estimate than you, I, or the DEA?--probably.
Will the sellers gravitate to an area with buyers?--of course.

Looks like the debate is a draw/non-issue, let's have a beer:beer3:

Uh, not quite, Doc. You challenged the OP's stated 200 estimate of EXISTING meth labs with 51 meth lab SEIZURES. You lose. Now, be gracious and congratulate the winner. :BigApplause:

[graciegirl]

sigh

[Down Sized]

I think the inmates proved that!:1rotfl:

I didn't need to be there, I had no doubt you accurately reported what was said. I think we're comparing apples and oranges. They published that the seized 51 meth labs in 2014, the speaker was ESTIMATING about 200. Since I doubt they found all of them (If they had there would be nothing for the "barmaid" to sell), there are likely many more. Is it 200? Is it 52? Is it 5,000? Who knows, that's the nature of an estimate. Is the local Sheriff more likely to make a good estimate than you, I, or the DEA?--probably.
Will the sellers gravitate to an area with buyers?--of course.

Looks like the debate is a draw/non-issue, let's have a beer:beer3:

Now, Do you know where meth first started?

[golfing eagles]

Uh, not quite, Doc. You challenged the OP's stated 200 estimate of EXISTING meth labs with 51 meth lab SEIZURES. You lose. Now, be gracious and congratulate the winner. :BigApplause:

Actually, I challenged the statement that there were 200 meth labs in Marion County, the OP did not mention seizures vs existing. But, if it makes you happy, I concede the debate, but only because I didn't go to Dartmouth:1rotfl:

Now, Do you know where meth first started?

Germany, 1887. But did not get used much until both the US and Japan gave it to combat soldiers. During Vietnam, our soldiers used more meth than the entire world did 20 years earlier