View Full Version : What is the "invasive species" in the Hudson Morse Parr Preserve?
graciegirl
10-09-2015, 01:32 PM
That may cost residents of of CDD1 a lot of money to remove? Is it coyotes?
This news just broke on the online news that we cannot mention. It isn't clear WHAT the invasive species is. I don't think it is teenagers. They aren't allowed here.
Where is CDD!?
golfing eagles
10-09-2015, 01:34 PM
What is the "invasive species" in the Hudson Morse Parr Preserve?
According to another thread, it must be meth addicts.
village dreamer
10-09-2015, 01:57 PM
I think its a snowbird?????? cant get anymore invasive than a snowbird , can we ???
golfing eagles
10-09-2015, 01:59 PM
I think its a snowbird?????? cant get anymore invasive than a snowbird , can we ???
yes, socialists
rubicon
10-09-2015, 02:04 PM
golf balls
tomwed
10-09-2015, 02:40 PM
Bill Cosby?
golfing eagles
10-09-2015, 02:47 PM
Bill Cosby?
The Kardashians and octomom?
tomwed
10-09-2015, 03:23 PM
Are stripes invasive?
golfing eagles
10-09-2015, 03:25 PM
Are stripes invasive?
So far no, they appear to confine themselves to one CDD. But they are scouting out a few others, so stay tuned
twoplanekid
10-09-2015, 03:48 PM
While I don't want to start a rumor, it could be Nandina domestica!
golfing eagles
10-09-2015, 03:54 PM
While I don't want to start a rumor, it could be Nandina domestica!
I doubt it--I got the impression from the OP that it was animal. I suppose Nandina could attract pandas however
tomwed
10-09-2015, 04:17 PM
I doubt it--I got the impression from the OP that it was animal. I suppose Nandina could attract pandas however
maybe not
Read the source.
I read it one way and I think animal and the other way I think plant.
tomwed
10-09-2015, 04:18 PM
A few weeks ago there was a thread about someone spotting Bigfoot.
golfing eagles
10-09-2015, 04:56 PM
A few weeks ago there was a thread about someone spotting Bigfoot.
Of course. See him frequently. Don't tell me you don't believe in bigfoot!:1rotfl:
manaboutown
10-09-2015, 05:23 PM
Well we know it is not Elvis! King cobra captured after terrorizing US town - Yahoo News (http://news.yahoo.com/king-cobra-captured-terrorizing-us-town-164249967.html)
Ecuadog
10-09-2015, 06:04 PM
golf balls
Is that like tennis elbow?
Boomer
10-09-2015, 06:55 PM
I wonder if it is hydrilla. Sounds like the name of a water monster in a movie, but hydrilla is for real. Bad stuff.
Here is a link to some information on invasive species in Florida. At the bottom of the page, you will see a list of the top 10. If you want to, you probably can look them up by name and maybe even see some scary pictures. Hydrilla is #1.....
And after you gather all that info, you can be a veritable font/fount (I never know which one it is when spelled) of information at your next driveway party....or everybody will just think you are Cliff Clavin.
Anyway, if you really want to know what the invasive species might be, this link will get you started:
Invasive Plant Management (http://floridaswater.com/landmanagement/invasiveplantmanagement.html)
Marian Boomer
Villageswimmer
10-09-2015, 07:02 PM
I wonder if it is hydrilla. Sounds like the name of a water monster in a movie, but hydrilla is for real. Bad stuff.
Here is a link to some information on invasive species in Florida. At the bottom of the page, you will see a list of the top 10. If you want to, you probably can look them up by name and maybe even see some scary pictures. Hydrilla is #1.....
And after you gather all that info, you can be a veritable font/fount (I never know which one it is when spelled) of information at your next driveway party....or everybody will just think you are Cliff Clavin.
Anyway, if you really want to know what the invasive species might be, this link will get you started:
Invasive Plant Management (http://floridaswater.com/landmanagement/invasiveplantmanagement.html)
Marian Boomer
Thanks for the link. Interesting info.
Villageswimmer
10-09-2015, 07:35 PM
While I don't want to start a rumor, it could be Nandina domestica!
Nandina Domestica is considered invasive, but I think we're talking water plants here like water lettuce or water hyacinth. There are many kinds in FL. It's a serious matter since it can adversely affect the health of the water body, fish, wildlife, etc. I hope they move quickly to eradicate before it spreads.
Jima64
10-09-2015, 07:51 PM
Look at lake lockloosa, sampson lake and crescent lake and you will see how bad the plant life can affect the health of the lake.
tomwed
10-09-2015, 08:14 PM
What's a $100k divided 120k ways? I wish there was an easy way to collect it.
dbussone
10-09-2015, 09:03 PM
What's a $100k divided 120k ways? I wish there was an easy way to collect it.
There is. Just have TV collect in their monthly bills. :)
tomwed
10-09-2015, 09:30 PM
There is. Just have TV collect in their monthly bills. :)
So to clean up this unfortunate situation every house has to fork up an extra one time fee of 2 bucks?
You make it sound so doable.
Whalen
10-09-2015, 09:37 PM
"The removal of invasive species that have moved into the wetlands would be labor intensive..."
Partial quote from source that shall not be named. Question; is it more than one species? Is invasive species singular or plural in this context?
2newyorkers
10-09-2015, 09:38 PM
Didn't the CDDs north of 466 win a $40 million dollar lawsuit against Morse and The Villages and if so wouldn't this be a good use of the monies?
tomwed
10-09-2015, 09:42 PM
Didn't the CDDs north of 466 win a $40 million dollar lawsuit against Morse and The Villages and if so wouldn't this be a good use of the monies?
yes
Average Guy
10-09-2015, 09:44 PM
So to clean up this unfortunate situation every house has to fork up an extra one time fee of 2 bucks?
You make it sound so doable.
The news source alluded to by the OP indicates that CDD 1 may have to foot the bill, not every Villages household.
Goober III
10-09-2015, 09:50 PM
Cover it with dirt and build houses on it...problem solved.
rubicon
10-10-2015, 05:10 AM
How does CDD1 or any CDD have ownership or control over the Hudson Parr Preservation Reserve?
Jim 9922
10-10-2015, 06:43 AM
Cover it with dirt and build houses on it...problem solved.
Or better yet, a giant covered indoor pool, and paths leading to it with lots and lots of stripes.:jester:
dbussone
10-10-2015, 07:12 AM
Or better yet, a giant covered indoor pool, and paths leading to it with lots and lots of stripes.:jester:
Excellent. All roads shall lead to THE POOL!
bagboy
10-10-2015, 07:27 AM
Obviously the invasive species has been identified. With a price tag of 100k to remove whatever it is, I would hope that information becomes public very soon.
tomwed
10-10-2015, 08:43 AM
Why the secrecy?
If the people in charge want to keep it quiet don't release any information. Otherwise they know how everything plays out down here.
golfing eagles
10-10-2015, 08:46 AM
Or better yet, a giant covered indoor pool, and paths leading to it with lots and lots of stripes.:jester:
How about a mini-mall with a Walgreen's, a Citizen's First Bank, and a Villages Golf Cart store? Can never have too many of them:1rotfl:
asianthree
10-10-2015, 08:49 AM
Why the secrecy?
If the people in charge want to keep it quiet don't release any information. Otherwise they know how everything plays out down here.
They are waiting for murder mystery weekend. Charge admission to identify
outlaw
10-10-2015, 08:55 AM
Is that like tennis elbow?
Good one.
TVMayor
10-10-2015, 10:53 AM
I live in District #1. The way I see it my amenity fees are used to fund the amenities that I have access to. The Hudson Morse Parr Preserve is not one of them. It has 726 feet on Morse Blvd giving me a fraction of a minute view at 30 mph IF I take my eyes off the road, that's it. The remainder of the property is behind the homes surrounding the preserve. If the preserve was restored to a pond it would enhance the view of the bordering properties and enhance the bordering properties property values and I would get nothing for my “MORE” than $100 grand.
The 100 plus white birds that spend every night sleeping on top of the “invasive species” will have to move on. What about the wild life residents at the base of the “invasive species”? Snakes, and four legged wildlife, will they migrate to the bordering properties?
It is my opinion that if the bordering property owners want it changed, they should petition to do so and pay with a special assessment. Reason, because they are the only ones to benefit from the “MORE” than $100 grand investment.
tomwed
10-10-2015, 10:56 AM
It is my opinion that if the bordering property owners want it changed, they should petition to do so and pay with a special assessment. Reason, because they are the only ones to benefit from the “MORE” than $100 grand investment.
Do you know what the invasive species is?
TVMayor
10-10-2015, 11:01 AM
Do you know what the invasive species is?
No.
golfing eagles
10-10-2015, 11:29 AM
Do you know what the invasive species is?
line dancers and seat savers?
TVMayor
10-10-2015, 11:30 AM
If memory serves me correctly about 9 years ago The Hudson Morse Parr Preserve was bone dry. It was after that with a modest accumulation of water that the “invasive species” (WEEDs) appeared. For 9 years the “invasive species” have been maintenance free. Now due to lack of maintenance…...you know. $100,000++++
Mleeja
10-10-2015, 01:07 PM
I am in Indianapolis this week. Has the DS published any additional "news" about the invasive species? I certianly think the residents have the right to know what they are dealing with if they are going to be charged to get rid of it! Will someone please correct me if I am wrong (like that wouldn't happern :-)). The amenity fees are controlled by the AAC and not used for this purpose. The "special assessment" would be to the CDD1. This would be in addition to the yearly bond maintenance fee. Let's make it clear where the money is coming from....
TVMayor
10-10-2015, 01:31 PM
I am in Indianapolis this week. Has the DS published any additional "news" about the invasive species? I certianly think the residents have the right to know what they are dealing with if they are going to be charged to get rid of it! Will someone please correct me if I am wrong (like that wouldn't happern :-)). The amenity fees are controlled by the AAC and not used for this purpose. The "special assessment" would be to the CDD1. This would be in addition to the yearly bond maintenance fee. Let's make it clear where the money is coming from....
This will be a topic of conversation at a Town Hall Meeting held by District #1. Time and place to be announced.
Villageswimmer
10-10-2015, 01:50 PM
Maybe I'm wrong, but all this plant growth didn't happen over night. Could it have been dealt with sooner? I wonder what triggered the concern at this point?
bike42
10-10-2015, 02:05 PM
See http://www.districtgov.org/departments/Budget/images/CIP/District%201%20CIP.pdf, page 9 (under FENCES) for information on maintenance of the wildlife preserves. This document explains the annual maintenance budget, which sets your yearly maintenance assessment. It is not part of the amenities fees.
Preserves benefit everyone, not just the people who have property overlooking them; they provide a place for all the wild critters(who were here before us) to live without disturbing us, and help to maintain the water table.
The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission monitors the preserves and tells what must be done to maintain them (including control of invasive species, which usually refers to plants, not animals). Be grateful that you live in a community and a state that care about our environment.
golfing eagles
10-10-2015, 02:09 PM
See http://www.districtgov.org/departments/Budget/images/CIP/District%201%20CIP.pdf, page 9 (under FENCES) for information on maintenance of the wildlife preserves. This document explains the annual maintenance budget, which sets your yearly maintenance assessment. It is not part of the amenities fees.
Preserves benefit everyone, not just the people who have property overlooking them; they provide a place for all the wild critters(who were here before us) to live without disturbing us, and help to maintain the water table.
The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission monitors the preserves and tells what must be done to maintain them (including control of invasive species, which usually refers to plants, not animals). Be grateful that you live in a community and a state that care about our environment.
:bigbow:
Amen.
TVMayor
10-10-2015, 02:38 PM
I made a mistake, the The Hudson Morse Parr Preserve the one in question is not the name of the preserve I was thinking of. I thought it was the preserve across from the post office station on Morse Blvd south of San Marino Dr. not so.
See map.
Not far away from The Hudson Morse Parr Preserve to the West is the area that is having the dirt taken out for the new pond and new barn. The area to the west of the reserve is horse country.
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/The_Villages/Preservw_zpsk949yjiz.jpg
rubicon
10-10-2015, 02:44 PM
I made a mistake, the The Hudson Morse Parr Preserve the one in question is not the name of the preserve I was thinking of. I thought it was the preserve across from the post office station on Morse Blvd south of San Marino Dr. not so.
See map.
Not far away from The Hudson Morse Parr Preserve to the West is the are that is having the dirt taken out for the new pond and new barn. The area to the west of the reserve is horse country.
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/The_Villages/Preservw_zpsk949yjiz.jpg
I'll ask again how is the Hudson Morse Parr Reserve the responsibiity of any CDD Perhaps its name may offer a clue as to responsibility?
njbchbum
10-10-2015, 02:50 PM
Why are the CDD1 Supervisors not seeking a govt grant to off-set the cost of remediation?
TVMayor
10-10-2015, 02:53 PM
Another view.
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/The_Villages/222_zpsexpbjodm.jpg
TVMayor
10-10-2015, 02:57 PM
I'll ask again how is the Hudson Morse Parr Reserve the responsibiity of any CDD Perhaps its name may offer a clue as to responsibility?
Because District #1 owns it???
manaboutown
10-10-2015, 03:53 PM
From the map in post 50 it appears it may abut the Morse estate.
bike42
10-10-2015, 04:32 PM
The preserve in question is surrounded by golf course and homes in CDD1.
Go to the Sumter County Property Appraisers website and check the tax records. The CDD pays no property tax on the preserves. If the land loses its status as a preserve it would be taxed as are the golf courses and so forth -- so be careful what you wish for.
Bogie Shooter
10-10-2015, 04:36 PM
Let the conspiracy theories begin...................................
tomwed
10-10-2015, 04:49 PM
Is a species a plant [I don't think so]
an animal [certainly]
a microorganism [I think so]
"a group of living organisms consisting of similar individuals capable of exchanging genes or interbreeding."
TNLAKEPANDA
10-10-2015, 06:21 PM
I think its a snowbird?????? cant get anymore invasive than a snowbird , can we ???
I find that VERY INSULTING to say the least... :rant-rave:
Too bad you can't afford a second home !
CFrance
10-10-2015, 06:29 PM
I am wondering if there is some FL law regarding preserves that says they have to clean the invasive species out of it.
I also wonder if it's coyotes. If it is, Dist. 1 is not the only one with a preserve containing coyotes, is it? Look out!:throwtomatoes:
Villageswimmer
10-10-2015, 06:44 PM
I am wondering if there is some FL law regarding preserves that says they have to clean the invasive species out of it.
I also wonder if it's coyotes. If it is, Dist. 1 is not the only one with a preserve containing coyotes, is it? Look out!:throwtomatoes:
Do they normally gravitate to water? Sounds like a dumb question but I really don't know.
Hancle704
10-10-2015, 06:44 PM
Interesting in one report it says there are 50,000 invasive species in the US and one local online media reported that it will cost $100,000 to remove this mystery species. Several times over the past years laborers were brought in to manually cut back several feet of growth that surrounds this preserve. It helped the view for homes that abutted the preserve and in year with low rainfall they removed growth that could have resulted in a major fire if struck by lightning with almost certain damage to those same homes. Since there are rules that regulate what can and can't be done in these preserves as set forth by the South West Florida Water Management District, I am sure they must have the final say about what can/must be done about this "invasive species " whatever it is. If you live in CDD 1, take a look at your annual Sumter County Tax statement and you will find that you are paying the SWFWMD an annual tax. Maybe they should be paying for the removal of the invasive species that has moved into an area that they set rules for and supposedly manage.
Bogie Shooter
10-10-2015, 07:36 PM
I think its a snowbird?????? cant get anymore invasive than a snowbird , can we ???
[QUOTE=TNLAKEPANDA;1127228]I find that VERY INSULTING to say the least... :rant-rave:
I agree.
Maybe a smiley rather than all those ????
Barefoot
10-10-2015, 07:45 PM
See http://www.districtgov.org/departments/Budget/images/CIP/District%201%20CIP.pdf, page 9 (under FENCES) for information on maintenance of the wildlife preserves. This document explains the annual maintenance budget, which sets your yearly maintenance assessment. It is not part of the amenities fees.
Preserves benefit everyone, not just the people who have property overlooking them; they provide a place for all the wild critters(who were here before us) to live without disturbing us, and help to maintain the water table.
The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission monitors the preserves and tells what must be done to maintain them (including control of invasive species, which usually refers to plants, not animals). Be grateful that you live in a community and a state that care about our environment. Excellent post. :thumbup:
Patty55
10-10-2015, 08:02 PM
Maybe it's like the deer stuck on the Grumman property or it could be like the Chincoteague ponies or maybe New Yorkers.
Mleeja
10-10-2015, 08:25 PM
I'll ask again how is the Hudson Morse Parr Reserve the responsibiity of any CDD Perhaps its name may offer a clue as to responsibility?
If the area was named "The Rubicon Nature Preserve" in honor of Rubicon, would Rubicon or the Rubicon family be resonsible for its upkeep? We b!t*h about the Morse family owning everthing, but when something comes up where they are not responsible, we b!t*h because they are not! This is called local government taking care of its problems.
CDD1 is taking the proper steps to inform the residents with thier town hall type meeting. That is a good first step. We better get use to it.
CFrance
10-10-2015, 08:45 PM
If the area was named "The Rubicon Nature Preserve" in honor of Rubicon, would Rubicon or the Rubicon family be resonsible for its upkeep? We b!t*h about the Morse family owning everthing, but when something comes up where they are not responsible, we b!t*h because they are not! This is called local government taking care of its problems.
CDD1 is taking the proper steps to inform the residents with thier town hall type meeting. That is a good first step. We better get use to it.
If that's the case, people in CDD1 deserve to remove that name and put in a niftier one.
Mleeja
10-10-2015, 08:49 PM
If that's the case, people in CDD1 deserve to remove that name and put in a niftier one.
Yeah, that seems to be the current thinking is this country. If you don't like the name, just change it and erase history.....
Jima64
10-10-2015, 08:54 PM
Clearly some kind of plant or vush. The longer they put the removal off the more difficult it will become and more costly.
CFrance
10-10-2015, 09:19 PM
Yeah, that seems to be the current thinking is this country. If you don't like the name, just change it and erase history.....
I don't think Jennifer Parr's son's very long name inspires a particularly awesome sense of history that needs to be "preserved," as it were. Just more like... I don't know, self-aggrandisement
Mleeja
10-10-2015, 09:31 PM
I don't think Jennifer Parr's son's very long name inspires a particularly awesome sense of history that needs to be "preserved," as it were. Just more like... I don't know, self-aggrandisement
Shall we rename Morris Blvd as well? This road seems to fit your definition.
tomwed
10-10-2015, 09:36 PM
niftier
I forgot about the word nifty. I use to say it all the time. Where did it go?
CFrance
10-10-2015, 09:36 PM
Shall we rename Morris Blvd as well? This road seems to fit your definition.
Sure!
manaboutown
10-10-2015, 09:37 PM
How about renaming it "The Unbuildable Swamp Preserve"?
Hancle704
10-10-2015, 09:44 PM
Shall we rename Morris Blvd as well? This road seems to fit your definition.
Has already been renamed.. It's MORSE BLVD.
rubicon
10-11-2015, 06:31 AM
Interesting in one report it says there are 50,000 invasive species in the US and one local online media reported that it will cost $100,000 to remove this mystery species. Several times over the past years laborers were brought in to manually cut back several feet of growth that surrounds this preserve. It helped the view for homes that abutted the preserve and in year with low rainfall they removed growth that could have resulted in a major fire if struck by lightning with almost certain damage to those same homes. Since there are rules that regulate what can and can't be done in these preserves as set forth by the South West Florida Water Management District, I am sure they must have the final say about what can/must be done about this "invasive species " whatever it is. If you live in CDD 1, take a look at your annual Sumter County Tax statement and you will find that you are paying the SWFWMD an annual tax. Maybe they should be paying for the removal of the invasive species that has moved into an area that they set rules for and supposedly manage.
Hancle: This is what I was getting at not so much the name which to me was a beginning of an investigation but not the end of... The Mayor says CDD1 owns it but who controls it and what relief is available for areas set aside by the state as being reserves...are their state funds, etc available
My real question is what are residents responsibilities as to properties in The Villages? what exactly should our amenities finance? And what role do our state/school taxes play in all of this?
For example the amenities fees have been paying to finance lawsuits and I often wondered why our Liabilty Insurance Policies have not been tapped ?
Our amenities fees have paid for what have been argued to be associated with Project program. Tree cutting etc
I get the hint that some poster felt my post was anti-developer which was not the case at all. Its never been about the developer for me its all about business (period)
So my intent was about knowing our financial obligations and preventing some other entity from shifting their burden to us. Secondly to not simply pay the bill but to look for financial resources available to us. I say this because if such practices continue unchallenged residents are one day going to face financial obligation, not ours, that they may well not be able to afford. and if they are ours we better have accounting methods to meet those future obligations
Villageswimmer
10-11-2015, 06:44 AM
Interesting in one report it says there are 50,000 invasive species in the US and one local online media reported that it will cost $100,000 to remove this mystery species. Several times over the past years laborers were brought in to manually cut back several feet of growth that surrounds this preserve. It helped the view for homes that abutted the preserve and in year with low rainfall they removed growth that could have resulted in a major fire if struck by lightning with almost certain damage to those same homes. Since there are rules that regulate what can and can't be done in these preserves as set forth by the South West Florida Water Management District, I am sure they must have the final say about what can/must be done about this "invasive species " whatever it is. If you live in CDD 1, take a look at your annual Sumter County Tax statement and you will find that you are paying the SWFWMD an annual tax. Maybe they should be paying for the removal of the invasive species that has moved into an area that they set rules for and supposedly manage.
I have to agree. I believe everyone in Sumter pays this tax. If the tax dollars aren't used for a purpose such as this, what are they used for?
TVMayor
10-11-2015, 07:23 AM
CDD1 owns it but who controls it and what relief is available for areas set aside by the state as being reserves...are their state funds, etc available
My real question is what are residents responsibilities as to properties in The Villages? what exactly should our amenities finance? And what role do our state/school taxes play in all of this?
Florida's State Wildlife Grants Program is supported by the federal State and Tribal Wildlife Grants Program, which provides annually appropriated funding to every state and territory. This is a matching grants program, which provides financial support for projects that address conservation needs identified in the State Wildlife Action Plan.
For more information about Florida's State Wildlife Grants Program, please contact:
Andrea Alden
State Wildlife Grants Program Coordinator
Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission
620 S. Meridian Street
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1600
Florida's State Wildlife Grants Program (http://myfwc.com/conservation/special-initiatives/fwli/grant/)
Bogie Shooter
10-11-2015, 09:42 AM
Once again TOTV posters have put the cart before the horse.
It was announced there was an issue with the preserve area that will have to be addressed. And an assessment was mentioned as a way to pay for the correction.
There is going to be a town hall meeting for the stakeholders. More than likely additional funding sources will be discussed and further explored.
Yet, on this thread the Developer is being berated and even worse posters are berating each other..........over a topic where all the facts have yet to be determined.
Opinions on causes and solutions is just a waste of time at this point.
Villageswimmer
10-11-2015, 09:48 AM
Once again TOTV posters have put the cart before the horse.
It was announced there was an issue with the preserve area that will have to be addressed. And an assessment was mentioned as a way to pay for the correction.
There is going to be a town hall meeting for the stakeholders. More than likely additional funding sources will be discussed and further explored.
Yet, on this thread the Developer is being berated and even worse posters are berating each other..........over a topic where all the facts have yet to be determined.
Opinions on causes and solutions is just a waste of time at this point.
I read all the posts and haven't seen anyone berated. Must have missed it. Where, exactly?
tomwed
10-11-2015, 09:54 AM
"An invasive species is a plant or animal species that is not native to a specific location (an introduced species), and which has a tendency to spread to a degree believed to cause damage to the environment, human economy and/or human health."
my italics
CFrance
10-11-2015, 10:21 AM
Once again TOTV posters have put the cart before the horse.
It was announced there was an issue with the preserve area that will have to be addressed. And an assessment was mentioned as a way to pay for the correction.
There is going to be a town hall meeting for the stakeholders. More than likely additional funding sources will be discussed and further explored.
Yet, on this thread the Developer is being berated and even worse posters are berating each other..........over a topic where all the facts have yet to be determined.
Opinions on causes and solutions is just a waste of time at this point.
If everybody waited till all the facts were in, this forum wouldn't be nearly as interesting.:D
Bogie Shooter
10-11-2015, 10:32 AM
Interesting?
CFrance
10-11-2015, 11:13 AM
Interesting?
Yeah. Facts can be so boring.
Villageswimmer
10-11-2015, 11:18 AM
Anyone looking for "just the facts" came to the wrong place. Maybe lighten up.
Bogie Shooter
10-11-2015, 11:23 AM
Anyone looking for "just the facts" came to the wrong place. Maybe lighten up.
Is this the beginning of a lecture?
TVMayor
10-11-2015, 12:09 PM
Anyone looking for "just the facts" came to the wrong place. Maybe lighten up.
Ya, that's it. Light up and mellow out dude.
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/The_Villages/stonedbaby2.jpg
Bogie Shooter
10-11-2015, 01:42 PM
send this to John Morgan!:D
graciegirl
10-11-2015, 02:13 PM
send this to John Morgan!:D
Excellent assessment.
That picture makes me want to vomit.
golfing eagles
10-11-2015, 02:23 PM
Excellent assessment.
That picture makes me want to vomit.
:BigApplause: Stand in line
bagboy
10-11-2015, 02:40 PM
I wonder what type of individual creates garbage like that...
golfing eagles
10-11-2015, 02:55 PM
I wonder what type of individual creates garbage like that...
The creators of "South Park"?????:1rotfl:
tomwed
10-11-2015, 03:01 PM
It's a photoshop swing and a miss, not funny on TOTV. That's all.
bagboy
10-11-2015, 03:45 PM
It's a photoshop swing and a miss funny on TOTV. That's all.
I know what it is and how it's made. I just happen to think that anything depicting child abuse is at the very least distasteful if not more than that. I'll just assume you think it missed the mark on being funny. Do these people have other photos of children in various situations that they think is funny and a no harm done type of thing? I'll stand by my original comment!
tomwed
10-11-2015, 06:28 PM
I know what it is and how it's made. I just happen to think that anything depicting child abuse is at the very least distasteful if not more than that. I'll just assume you think it missed the mark on being funny. Do these people have other photos of children in various situations that they think is funny and a no harm done type of thing? I'll stand by my original comment!
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TVMayor
10-11-2015, 09:54 PM
What about the $100,000+?
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rubicon
10-12-2015, 04:00 AM
Once again TOTV posters have put the cart before the horse.
It was announced there was an issue with the preserve area that will have to be addressed. And an assessment was mentioned as a way to pay for the correction.
There is going to be a town hall meeting for the stakeholders. More than likely additional funding sources will be discussed and further explored.
Yet, on this thread the Developer is being berated and even worse posters are berating each other..........over a topic where all the facts have yet to be determined.
Opinions on causes and solutions is just a waste of time at this point.
Who are the stakeholders?
Mleeja
10-12-2015, 08:53 AM
Who are the stakeholders?
Maybe the residents of District 8 can start a petition drive to not pay for the removal of the "invasive species". They can claim it is the personal responsibility of the species to remove its self. :024:
billethkid
10-12-2015, 09:48 AM
To me the article in the paper this morning was revealing in the fact that the invasive species issue is not the removal of the species because it is invasive but that resdents have requested it's removal to improve their view of the golf course.
Up to that point the subject was of interest due to potential invasive species issues.
But yet another significant expenditure to improve residents views?
Are we not being witness to a precedent setting trend here in TV. Is view improvement a line item in the budget?
And no I do not care to hear they live in the Morse compound hence it will be done.
If it is not funded by any of our resident contributed or resident applied funds then it matters not. If it is from resident intended funds then there should be as strenuous an objection as there was to the trees being cut down to improve views.
I know I do not know enough to take a position at this writing.
twoplanekid
10-12-2015, 09:52 AM
Maybe the residents of District 8 can start a petition drive to not pay for the removal of the "invasive species". They can claim it is the personal responsibility of the species to remove its self. :024:
I thought that they were in District 9
TVMayor
10-12-2015, 10:42 AM
To me the article in the paper this morning was revealing in the fact that the invasive species issue is not the removal of the species because it is invasive but that resdents have requested it's removal to improve their view of the golf course.
Up to that point the subject was of interest due to potential invasive species issues.
But yet another significant expenditure to improve residents views?
Are we not being witness to a precedent setting trend here in TV. Is view improvement a line item in the budget?
And no I do not care to hear they live in the Morse compound hence it will be done.
If it is not funded by any of our resident contributed or resident applied funds then it matters not. If it is from resident intended funds then there should be as strenuous an objection as there was to the trees being cut down to improve views.
I know I do not know enough to take a position at this writing.
If the residents want a better view, they should have it and the residents should pay for it.
The ones that get a better view that is.
bike42
10-12-2015, 11:05 AM
To me the article in the paper this morning was revealing in the fact that the invasive species issue is not the removal of the species because it is invasive but that resdents have requested it's removal to improve their view of the golf course.
Where did you see anything about the invasive species being removed to improve anyone's views? I reread the V-N article and it did not say anything like that.
billethkid
10-12-2015, 11:39 AM
Where did you see anything about the invasive species being removed to improve anyone's views? I reread the V-N article and it did not say anything like that.
Today's happy paper in the article addressing invasive species.
billethkid
10-12-2015, 11:39 AM
If the residents want a better view, they should have it and the residents should pay for it.
The ones that get a better view that is.
Perfectly stated.
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