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Guest
10-16-2015, 09:01 AM
Being lawyer trained he (and she) knows that even if declared wrong, the message intended was delivered (right or wrong).

Obama continues to demonstrtate he is not presidential capable. He has no ability to rise above his race, religion or politics.

Either he is just being Obama, again. Or there is concern about Clinton being electable. I vote for both.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/17/us/politics/obamas-comments-on-clinton-emails-collide-with-fbi-inquiry.html

Guest
10-16-2015, 09:31 AM
Being lawyer trained he (and she) knows that even if declared wrong, the message intended was delivered (right or wrong).

Obama continues to demonstrtate he is not presidential capable. He has no ability to rise above his race, religion or politics.

Either he is just being Obama, again. Or there is concern about Clinton being electable. I vote for both.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/17/us/politics/obamas-comments-on-clinton-emails-collide-with-fbi-inquiry.html

What does that article have to do with race or religion?

The President expressed his view that Mrs. Clinton did not make the right decision about a private email account. He further expressed his view that no national security was compromised.

Yes, Mrs. Clinton is very electable! Chances are very promising she will be the next President. If not her, it WILL be another Democrat!

Guest
10-16-2015, 10:35 AM
What does that article have to do with race or religion?

The President expressed his view that Mrs. Clinton did not make the right decision about a private email account. He further expressed his view that no national security was compromised.

Yes, Mrs. Clinton is very electable! Chances are very promising she will be the next President. If not her, it WILL be another Democrat!

I did not say the article had anything to do with race or religion. ONLY that Obama was unable to rise above race, religion (and for this article!!!) politics.

His view is the political one. If the FBI is still investigating, just what is it that Obama knows that they don't? Nothing. It is a political play and does not require validation or truth.

As to who wins, we'll have to wait and see. There are, as you, and many ranking democrats realize, there is concern that the fooling of people all of the time is fading and hence loosing even many democrats. They too are weary of the lies and self indulgence politicians.

Guest
10-16-2015, 12:20 PM
If she wins the primary, she will be eaten alive by the media and GOP campaign ads. All they have to do is flash one or two of the highly classified emails she had on her server and ask the people if this is who you want to trust national security with. flash the four that died in Benghazi and ask if your facebook video will be blamed for the next embassy that is over run. Ask the people where Hilary was a 3am on Sep 11th.

Hilary has to run on her miserable record. Any new GOP candidate won't have that handicap.

Guest
10-16-2015, 05:24 PM
What does that article have to do with race or religion?

The President expressed his view that Mrs. Clinton did not make the right decision about a private email account. He further expressed his view that no national security was compromised.

Yes, Mrs. Clinton is very electable! Chances are very promising she will be the next President. If not her, it WILL be another Democrat!

Obama expressed "in his view"???? The FBI is investigating the email issue and has not released any results yet Obama has the results, "in his view". Remember he also told our entrepreneurs that started their own business that "If you've got a business - you did'nt build that. Somebody else made that happen". Lacks common sense in so many ways.

Guest
10-16-2015, 06:26 PM
If she wins the primary, she will be eaten alive by the media and GOP campaign ads. All they have to do is flash one or two of the highly classified emails she had on her server. Any new GOP candidate won't have that handicap.

First, you have absolutely no proof there was any "highly classified" email on her server.

Any "new" GOP candidate would only mean Trump (a blowhard with no idea), Fiorina (a fired corporate executive), and Ben Carson (a man ignorant of how government operates).

Yes, a Democrat WILL win the office od President of the USA.

Guest
10-16-2015, 06:59 PM
First, you have absolutely no proof there was any "highly classified" email on her server.

Any "new" GOP candidate would only mean Trump (a blowhard with no idea), Fiorina (a fired corporate executive), and Ben Carson (a man ignorant of how government operates).

Yes, a Democrat WILL win the office od President of the USA.

While you have your crystal out, can you give me the Market outlook for next week?

Guest
10-16-2015, 10:37 PM
First, you have absolutely no proof there was any "highly classified" email on her server.

Any "new" GOP candidate would only mean Trump (a blowhard with no idea), Fiorina (a fired corporate executive), and Ben Carson (a man ignorant of how government operates).

Yes, a Democrat WILL win the office od President of the USA.

Ha Ha Ho Ho He He hah haaaaaagh!

Guest
10-17-2015, 04:26 AM
First, you have absolutely no proof there was any "highly classified" email on her server.

Any "new" GOP candidate would only mean Trump (a blowhard with no idea), Fiorina (a fired corporate executive), and Ben Carson (a man ignorant of how government operates).

Yes, a Democrat WILL win the office od President of the USA.

Yes, I do have proof. I read some of the released emails and even though they are redacted, there was more than enough proof to see that they were "highly" classified. I have worked in the classified environment for many years and know what I am talking about. Anyone that has EVER worked with classified, knows that those emails are classified. Hilary Clinton is a felon, a criminal, and a threat to national security. What is even worst is that she shrugs it off like it is a political thing. Her lack of concern for national security should worry all of America, not just a few. Any liberal that is not worried about the mishandling of classified, is NOT an American. If the liberal agenda is more important than national security than you are NOT American. National Defense is the most important charter of the constitution, so anyone that disregards national security is an enemy of America. She should not be treated as Petraeus, but treated like any other hardened criminal, or murderer.

Guest
10-17-2015, 04:34 AM
First, you have absolutely no proof there was any "highly classified" email on her server.

Any "new" GOP candidate would only mean Trump (a blowhard with no idea), Fiorina (a fired corporate executive), and Ben Carson (a man ignorant of how government operates).

Yes, a Democrat WILL win the office od President of the USA.

If Hilary is eliminated, who is going to be able to win the election for the Democrats? Sanders? Not even a Democrat. A socialist. He may get the stupid kids' votes, but no AMERICAN adult will vote for him. Who else? Maybe Biden, if they force him to run. He is the only chance for Democrats.

Your childish bravado will not get Hilary elected. She won't be elected from jail. She can't even get the female vote, she won't have the black turn out, and most of the Independents are conservative and won't vote for a socialist. And CLinton is trying to out-socialist Bernie.

And if Hilary keeps cackling like a crazed witch, she is going to scare all her voter base away.

Guest
10-17-2015, 04:35 AM
First, you have absolutely no proof there was any "highly classified" email on her server.

Any "new" GOP candidate would only mean Trump (a blowhard with no idea), Fiorina (a fired corporate executive), and Ben Carson (a man ignorant of how government operates).

Yes, a Democrat WILL win the office od President of the USA.

Dear Guest: With all due respect by virtue of the fact that Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State and acknowledges she used a personal server to conduct business logically confirms classified information flowed to and fro. In addition her staff conducted business in the same manner as did non government people she worked with.

It is disheartening that people both believe and defend Clinton on this issue when she hide her use of this system from everyone and when discovered she destroyed thousands of e-mails. And yet that is what she is peddling.

What do you believe her reaction would be if she came home found bill in bed with another woman . And that the woman grabs her clothes and dashes out while Bill makes the bed , dresses and says her her what woman..I never had sex with .......

Obama's opinion on Hillary clinton's use and its affect on this nation can be a result of Hlary saying to Obama I won't tell on you if you don't tell on me. Or Obama has publicly instructed the FBI as to what he expects the outcome to me and by doing it publicly places more pressure on them

You may accuse me of being a conspiracy theorist but my position is simply that with politicians there is so much dirty business being conducted that you can no longer tell the good from bad.

voters do not have the benefit of the behind the scenes manipulations, etc and the liberal media which controls media have long surrendered being the vice of the people. they withhold, manipulate news and lie

some voters can never get past the smoke and mirrors and Clinton and Obama are masters at it and in addition have the media in their pockets

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
10-20-2015, 08:14 PM
SO many questions that nobody will ask....

"When Hillary Clinton appears before Congress’s special committee on Benghazi Thursday, she’ll likely be asked all the wrong questions.

Clinton will be peppered with queries about why she kept a private email server, what caused the 2012 attacks on the U.S. special consulate in Benghazi, and how come U.S. forces didn’t respond more quickly to the strikes. But the really important issues—the questions longstanding followers of the U.S. and NATO intervention want answered—are: Why did Hillary Clinton push for strikes that contributed to the fall of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi? And why didn’t the Obama administration bother to plan for the all-too-predictable chaos that came next?"

Hillary (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/20/hillary-s-libya-post-war-plan-was-play-it-by-ear-gates-says.html)

This is a good read and Secy Clinton is complicit in the total destruction of this country, and it certainly points our her total inability to govern anything.

Guest
10-21-2015, 08:11 AM
These congressional hearings are just a complete waste of taxpayer dollars ($4 million so far) and just Republicans trying to smear Mrs. Clinton.

The public is tired of this and it is going to backfire on Republicans. Mrs. Clinton will be elected President. It will be another term of Republicans doing everything they can to block absolutely anything a President wants.

Guest
10-21-2015, 08:15 AM
These congressional hearings are just a complete waste of taxpayer dollars ($4 million so far) and just Republicans trying to smear Mrs. Clinton.

The public is tired of this and it is going to backfire on Republicans. Mrs. Clinton will be elected President. It will be another term of Republicans doing everything they can to block absolutely anything a President wants.

You are aware, I assume, that the link provided has to do with the destruction of Libya, and NOT the Benghazi investigation...well, it appears you are not at all aware.

Guest
10-21-2015, 10:56 AM
These congressional hearings are just a complete waste of taxpayer dollars ($4 million so far) and just Republicans trying to smear Mrs. Clinton.

The public is tired of this and it is going to backfire on Republicans. Mrs. Clinton will be elected President. It will be another term of Republicans doing everything they can to block absolutely anything a President wants.

Putting aside the congressional hearings, how do you explain OBAMA's FBI investigation of Hilary? Isn't it convenient that you can smack talk anonymously on here and when you are found blatantly wrong, no one will even know?

Guest
10-21-2015, 10:59 AM
These congressional hearings are just a complete waste of taxpayer dollars ($4 million so far) and just Republicans trying to smear Mrs. Clinton.

The public is tired of this and it is going to backfire on Republicans. Mrs. Clinton will be elected President. It will be another term of Republicans doing everything they can to block absolutely anything a President wants.

I wouldn't vote for them if they didn't block everything the President wants. I don't agree with anything the president wants, so why would I elect someone that wouldn't block him? You are very silly. Unlike you, I don't embrace socialism. In my opinion, today's Republicans are not conservative enough.

Guest
10-21-2015, 02:01 PM
I wouldn't vote for them if they didn't block everything the President wants. I don't agree with anything the president wants, so why would I elect someone that wouldn't block him? You are very silly. Unlike you, I don't embrace socialism. In my opinion, today's Republicans are not conservative enough.

...and you just proved yourself to be IGNORANT.

Guest
10-21-2015, 02:42 PM
These congressional hearings are just a complete waste of taxpayer dollars ($4 million so far) and just Republicans trying to smear Mrs. Clinton.

The public is tired of this and it is going to backfire on Republicans. Mrs. Clinton will be elected President. It will be another term of Republicans doing everything they can to block absolutely anything a President wants.

May I ask were the Nixon Watergate investigation also a waste of taxpayers money? the liberal media made cult heroes for Woodward and Bernstein for a break-in that pale in comparison to the damage Hillary Clinton created by being absent while on duty.

Are you my liberal friend going to also tell us that only back lives matter

The actions of Hillary Clinton concerning her neglect regarding to Benghazi, her failure to follow up and arrest the people to blame as she promised the mother of one of the deceased...oh that's right they arrested the guy who made the video. and her use of a personal server that placed in this country in harms way were of great magnitude. Yet the liberal media is so intent on deciding for the public what is of importance that they either ignore on ridicule any effort to find the truth. You do know that countries like north Korea practice that sort of journalism? Maybe you do and think its cool?

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
10-21-2015, 03:31 PM
What difference does it make? Democrats control ALL branches of the Government including the FBI. SO you really think they are going rat one of their own out. They didn't put those heads of departments in there for nothing. Hilary will NOT be indicted, she just like her cigar poking hubby, water flows right of there backs. Clintons have dirt bag full of dirt on majority of the democrats. They will NEVER face the fire!

Guest
10-21-2015, 03:46 PM
What difference does it make? Democrats control ALL branches of the Government including the FBI. SO you really think they are going rat one of their own out. They didn't put those heads of departments in there for nothing. Hilary will NOT be indicted, she just like her cigar poking hubby, water flows right of there backs. Clintons have dirt bag full of dirt on majority of the democrats. They will NEVER face the fire!

I agree. And, the naive stooges in the electorate will vote for her.

Guest
10-21-2015, 03:57 PM
I agree. And, the naive stooges in the electorate will vote for her.

Party first no matter what!! No decision making required!

Guest
10-21-2015, 06:22 PM
...and you just proved yourself to be IGNORANT.

Apparently, you don't know the definition of "ignorant." And, I believe that makes YOU ignorant.

Guest
10-21-2015, 06:31 PM
Interesting article on POLITICO today which compliments very strongly Hillary Clinton's ability to testify before committees. He endurance an sharpness.

I found the section below to be of particular interest.

It speaks to the deceit and also the short memory of the voters.

"Yet even then the first lady’s tour was haunted by the Whitewater scandals—which began with allegations of conflicts of interest rooted in a failed Arkansas real estate investment. In a cruel twist—or a poorly executed manipulation—on January 5, as the tour began, the Clintons’ secretary announced she had stumbled onto a box in the “book room,” deep in the Clintons’ private domain, the Executive Mansion. The box contained long-sought billing records detailing the legal work Hillary Clinton and her Rose Law Firm colleagues did for the Madison Guaranty savings and loan at the heart of the Whitewater scandal.

Five investigative bodies had been requesting those records, some for as long as two years. The bills conveniently appeared two days after the statute of limitations expired, so that bank regulators could not sue the Rose Law Firm or any attorneys involved in the bank’s $60 million bankruptcy.

Mrs. Clinton had insisted that she remembered little about what was an insignificant case. The records showed otherwise, proving that Hillary Clinton, Esq., had worked 60 hours over 15 months, averaging an hour a week, on this file, with over a dozen meetings. Her claim that this proved that the file was forgettable meant that this supposed superlawyer was invoking a defense of borderline malpractice to dodge more serious charges of dishonesty and fraud. Ronald Reagan had made a similar choice when defending himself during the Iran-Contra scandal. Ultimately, like the 18˝-minute gap with Watergate, the sudden surfacing of the long-sought billing records would remain a mystery: Were they genuinely misplaced or purposely overlooked? How did they suddenly emerge? “Nobody knows the real story with the billing records,” the White House counsel and Whitewater troubleshooter Jane Sherburne would say with a sigh.


Read more: How Hillary Testifies - POLITICO Magazine (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/hillary-clinton-benghazi-whitewater-213278#ixzz3pFRLX6ob)

AS you can see at the end of this section, she is not alone in knowing how to play the game and we wonder why in the world movements who oppose big government can get "legs".....seems we, the voters have lost control over our government !!

Guest
10-21-2015, 06:42 PM
An interesting spin from a British news magazine on Secy Clinton as a candidate. I did not realize some of the statistics listed for her New York campaign especially.

"Clinton has never beaten a first-class opponent. And nothing in her recent campaign should cause us to forget it."

"I cannot stop emphasizing: Hillary Clinton's only electoral victories were in one of the most Democratic states in the country and against nobodies. She defeated an incompetent Republican backbencher, Rick Lazio, in 2000. In 2006, the New York State Republican Party sent John Spencer, mayor of Yonkers, to be its sacrificial lamb. Clinton spent $36 million defeating Spencer in an election with a 23 percent voter turnout. Spencer had raised just over $5 million, and was given to describing people as having a "Chinaman's chance." Not exactly a model for defeating the GOP this time — unless Donald Trump is her opponent, he suddenly goes dead broke, and his name recognition drops by roughly 97 percent. (The "Chinaman's chance" thing, I can imagine him saying.)

Clinton was beat when Barack Obama slyly made ethics and conviction the themes of his campaign."

Hillary Clinton is still a terrible candidate (http://theweek.com/articles/583630/hillary-clinton-still-terrible-candidate)