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alemorkam
10-22-2015, 09:55 AM
Was trying to get some photos of Eagles when I noticed these Coyotes in the field over by the retention pond on the corner of Buena Vista and Bailey Trail.

Click on photo to enlarge.

tomwed
10-22-2015, 10:14 AM
That's a great photo.
I read and watch all the links everyone posts on coyotes. Experts say they travel in pairs, male and female and more monogamous than humans.

dbussone
10-22-2015, 10:14 AM
Was trying to get some photos of Eagles when I noticed these Coyotes in the field over by the retention pond on the corner of Buena Vista and Bailey Trail.



Click on photo to enlarge.


As usual, your photos are just fabulous. These coyotes sure eat better than the scrawny ones you see out west.

jimbo2012
10-22-2015, 10:17 AM
the one on the left is eyeing you............................:shocked:

kittygilchrist
10-22-2015, 05:41 PM
Is the place called Eagle preserve?

kittygilchrist
10-22-2015, 07:00 PM
Enlarged the pic. Beautful animal.

alemorkam
10-22-2015, 07:17 PM
thanks

kcrazorbackfan
10-22-2015, 08:10 PM
Enlarged the pic. Beautful animal.

I know I'm getting ready to catch flak over this, but the only thing those coyotes need is a well placed .25-06 round in it. People, these animals are predatory hunters that are killing our pets; they are not beautiful. I am an animal lover but these animals are savage killers that are good for nothing. For those of you who cry "we took their land", "they were here before humans were", "development drove them out of their habitat", "keep your dogs on a leash", "keep your cats off the lanai", save it - we're humans, they're not. And, let it begin......

golfing eagles
10-22-2015, 08:37 PM
I know I'm getting ready to catch flak over this, but the only thing those coyotes need is a well placed .25-06 round in it. People, these animals are predatory hunters that are killing our pets; they are not beautiful. I am an animal lover but these animals are savage killers that are good for nothing. For those of you who cry "we took their land", "they were here before humans were", "development drove them out of their habitat", "keep your dogs on a leash", "keep your cats off the lanai", save it - we're humans, they're not. And, let it begin......

Wow---you're going to get slammed by everyone from the cat haters to PETA. Good luck:1rotfl:

kittygilchrist
10-23-2015, 12:49 AM
The comments show a basic lack of knowledge about the nature of coyotes. :ohdear:

I am not sure what you mean about the nature of coyotes. They are apex predators, as are humans. Top of the chain.

kittygilchrist
10-23-2015, 01:00 AM
That's a great photo.
I read and watch all the links everyone posts on coyotes. Experts say they travel in pairs, male and female and more monogamous than humans.

Aha! I also enjoy knowing more about animal behavior. Coyotes produce average 5 to 7 offspring in jan- feb. and teach the pups skills for independence about the time of autumn. The male brings food to the den.

golfing eagles
10-23-2015, 05:54 AM
[QUOTE=kcrazorbackfan;1133890
Re-read it; I don't hate cats and dogs; PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals)
[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Which is why I was expecting a response from cat haters

As far as PETA goes----"It's Dad's big doo--dead cow, dead pig, dead lamb" (Brad Pitt, 12 Monkeys) and "Bacon tastes good, pork chops taste good" (John Travolta, Pulp Fiction):1rotfl:

Taltarzac725
10-23-2015, 07:56 AM
Was trying to get some photos of Eagles when I noticed these Coyotes in the field over by the retention pond on the corner of Buena Vista and Bailey Trail.

Click on photo to enlarge.

Beautiful pictures. Live and let live but carry golf balls or a golf club when walking at night near where coyotes hunt. And whistles.

alemorkam
10-23-2015, 08:03 AM
Thank you Taltarzac25

graciegirl
10-23-2015, 08:09 AM
Great pictures. Ale. Do you think you are seeing more coyotes now than last year?

alemorkam
10-23-2015, 08:41 AM
No I don't think so. But the bobcats seem to be new.

Taltarzac725
10-23-2015, 09:14 AM
No I don't think so. But the bobcats seem to be new.

The bobcat attacks in the Villages of Lynnhaven/Ashland sure seem to be new. I have only seen three coyotes here in this area of the Villages since June 2005.

About the same number of dogs loose here in Lynnhaven. One of these was a beagle dumped off on Morven Parkway. Scuttlebutt was that someone drove by and just dropped the dog off in the street. The beagle may still be in the area as far as I know with a caring family.

Chi-Town
10-23-2015, 09:32 AM
The bobcat attacks in the Villages of Lynnhaven/Ashland sure seem to be new. I have only seen three coyotes here in this area of the Villages since June 2005.

About the same number of dogs loose here in Lynnhaven. One of these was a beagle dumped off on Morven Parkway. Scuttlebutt was that someone drove by and just dropped the dog off in the street. The beagle may still be in the area as far as I know with a caring family.
Bobcat attacks?

Taltarzac725
10-23-2015, 09:38 AM
Bobcat attacks?

Three of these over the past two months. At least, that is what the people here think that is pulling cats off of lanais after ripping through screens. They have all been near the Churchill Downs Rec Center or within a half mile radius of it.

A Village of Lynnhaven couple is mourning the loss of a cat, snatched from their lanai after the screen was ripped open by a wild animal.

The 20-year-old cat named Tucker was taken overnight Friday from the lanai of their home on Saludo Street. from the site that must not be named about three weeks ago.

There was a second earlier snatching of a cat off of a Saludo Street lanai. A lady I know found the body of that cat ripped open with claws.

gap2415
10-23-2015, 09:47 AM
I think the bobcat so-called attacks were someone's guess.

We lived beside bobcats and they never went in our screened pool area where our cats were in the six years we lived there. They often came out when we were having dinner outside on the lanai and stretched out on the grass. We did not feed them but we did hear that some bobcats lived alongside the homeless people in the woods like pets.

Taltarzac725
10-23-2015, 09:52 AM
I think the bobcat so-called attacks were someone's guess.

We lived beside bobcats and they never went in our screened pool area where our cats were in the six years we lived there. They often came out when we were having dinner outside on the lanai and stretched out on the grass. We did not feed them but we did hear that some bobcats lived alongside the homeless people in the woods like pets.

The cat's body looked like something ripped it open with claws and chewed on it. Coyote prey I assume would look quite different from bobcat prey. This is going by the woman who found the dead cat near Saludo Street house where it was taken off the lanai. The "meal" was not taken back to a den but eaten in the immediate vicinity of where it was snatched. Sounds like a bobcat's work but I am not a biologist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobcat

Phanatic Luvr
10-23-2015, 10:06 AM
Great photography ... as usual!
When I take my dogs out in the evening, and let me say they are ALWAYS on a leash, I carry one of the pods my husband cuts out of our palm trees with me. They are about 3 1/2' long, quite pointy on the end and lightweight to carry. If you don't have palm trees, look in your neighbors lawn waste on Tuesday evenings. PS don't get the one's with all the seeds inside.

Barefoot
10-23-2015, 12:31 PM
Bobcat attacks? Rumors.

Taltarzac725
10-23-2015, 01:09 PM
Rumors.

Something with sharp claws ripped open lanai screens in Lynnhaven and Ashland and took three cats off of these. One of the cat's bodies was found all ripped up with not much left of it my a woman I know who lives across the street from where two of these attacks were on Saludo Street. She is rightly terrified about the dog she walks at night near there. This is not rumor but coming from people in that immediate vicinity of Lynnhaven.

The Lynnhaven people I have talked to about this say that this was the work of a bobcat even though they have also seen coyotes in the neighborhood. They travel up the Belmont Golf Course.

I am not sure why some people have such doubts about something posted by someone in the neighborhood where these three attacks were. Ashland is close to Lynnhaven. I live in Lynnhaven but am nearer to Evelynton Loop than Saludo Street.

I have heard talk of some neighbors in the Saludo Street area planning on hiring a trapper to get this bobcat.

Chi-Town
10-23-2015, 01:24 PM
Something with sharp claws ripped open lanai screens in Lynnhaven and Ashland and took three cats off of these. One of the cat's bodies was found all ripped up with not much left of it my a woman I know who lives across the street from where two of these attacks were on Saludo Street. She is rightly terrified about the dog she walks at night near there. This is not rumor but coming from people in that immediate vicinity of Lynnhaven.

The Lynnhaven people I have talked to about this say that this was the work of a bobcat even though they have also seen coyotes in the neighborhood. They travel up the Belmont Golf Course.

I am not sure why some people have such doubts about something posted by someone in the neighborhood where these three attacks were. Ashland is close to Lynnhaven. I live in Lynnhaven but am nearer to Evelynton Loop than Saludo Street.

I have heard talk of some neighbors in the Saludo Street area planning on hiring a trapper to get this bobcat.
Tal, perhaps we need a little better CSI. The number of cats and cause of death seem to morph (I believe it was two cats and killer prairie wolves to start with).

Taltarzac725
10-23-2015, 01:32 PM
Tal, perhaps we need a little better CSI. The number of cats and cause of death seem to morph (I believe it was two cats and killer prairie wolves to start with).

I kind of trust the people most affected by the bobcats to have the best information available at this time. I mean the people living around Saludo Street in Lynnhaven.

They probably called the news source which must not be named which reported the story.

Maybe I can persuade one of the people most involved with the cat snatchings in Lynnhaven to come on TOTV and talk to people about what they experienced. Remember though that people have trouble talking about things when it happened to them firsthand. Post traumatic stress disorder would apply to the loss of a beloved pet.

In my experiences with Villages' new sources --unless they are going from police reports-- the facts can be hit or miss. Gary Corsair, for instance, did a story on me in The Villages Daily Sun on Memorial Day of 2007 and he got all kinds of the facts I told him wrong. The story was about my fight to get the Florida Victim Services Directory connected to Villages' area libraries. I have dealt with a lot of journalists in my 224 612 Project since 1992 or thereabouts and have not found them to be the best fact checkers. The actual people involved in the stories are the best resources not journalists looking for something to fill up their publications' pages.

TrudyM
10-23-2015, 01:33 PM
Is there an animal control that could trank these animals and relocate them not only for the good of the pets but for their own good, I wouldn't think being in a suburban area would be good for them.

kittygilchrist
10-23-2015, 01:36 PM
No, Trudy. I find no relocation program in the US. Fl fish and wildlife leaves the problem with the individual homeowner.
Coyotes thrive in urban areas. Live longer.

Taltarzac725
10-23-2015, 01:42 PM
No, Trudy. I find no relocation program in the US. Fl fish and wildlife leaves the problem with the individual homeowner.
Coyotes thrive in urban areas. Live longer.

There are coyotes in this area of Lynnhaven as well. Some of the Saludo Street people see them around 1 AM at night. One man's pooch-- Buddy-- has a health condition where Buddy has to pee a lot. So, Buddy and Buddy's owner are often out-and-about at 1 AM.

Chi-Town
10-23-2015, 02:01 PM
There are coyotes in this area of Lynnhaven as well. Some of the Saludo Street people see them around 1 AM at night. One man's pooch-- Buddy-- has a health condition where Buddy has to pee a lot. So, Buddy and Buddy's owner are often out-and-about at 1 AM.

I was watching Flipping Vegas on A&E the other night and one of the properties about to go on sale had a coyote scat problem. So the flipper guy gave his workers bottles of water to drink and then later pee around the perimeter of the back yard so the coyotes would not cross a marked territory. Buddy and his owner could be a front line of defense.

GeoGeo
10-23-2015, 02:30 PM
Wanted to share something that happened many years back and not in The Villages. Pets were mysteriously coming up missing. A wild animal was blamed for. I can't remember what animal it was. To make a long story short.....it turned out to be some young people stealing the pets and I won't say what they were doing with them. I'm not saying this is what is happening in TV, but it just goes to show that a wild animal got the blame.....and it turned out to be wild humans. I am for proving it was a bobcat or coyote before blaming them and getting them killed. Oh, and watch out for wild young people in your neighbor. :)

Taltarzac725
10-23-2015, 03:44 PM
Wanted to share something that happened many years back and not in The Villages. Pets were mysteriously coming up missing. A wild animal was blamed for. I can't remember what animal it was. To make a long story short.....it turned out to be some young people stealing the pets and I won't say what they were doing with them. I'm not saying this is what is happening in TV, but it just goes to show that a wild animal got the blame.....and it turned out to be wild humans. I am for proving it was a bobcat or coyote before blaming them and getting them killed. Oh, and watch out for wild young people in your neighbor. :)

The book Coyote and the Kitchen Door does mention sub-adults as suspects for pet losses. Coyote at the Kitchen Door: Living with Wildlife in Suburbia: Stephen DeStefano: 9780674060180: Amazon.com: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Coyote-Kitchen-Door-Wildlife-Suburbia/dp/0674060180)

In some neighbrhoods I have lived in, these sub-adults would be the first suspects for the disapperance of pets.

John_W
10-23-2015, 04:05 PM
Are you sure it wasn't called "Alligator and the Kitchen Door"?

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/cocoaandsugar/alligatoratdoor.jpg

golfing eagles
10-23-2015, 04:19 PM
Are you sure it wasn't called "Alligator and the Kitchen Door"?

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/cocoaandsugar/alligatoratdoor.jpg

Somebody let that poor gator in. he's been knocking for hours!!!:1rotfl:

GeoGeo
10-23-2015, 04:27 PM
My spouse said that someone he was talking to said their neighbor had an alligator on their lanai. Wouldn't that surprise you? Probably just wanting to come in for an early morning cup of coffee......or maybe a cat burger.

golfing eagles
10-23-2015, 05:06 PM
My spouse said that someone he was talking to said their neighbor had an alligator on their lanai. Wouldn't that surprise you? Probably just wanting to come in for an early morning cup of coffee......or maybe a cat burger.

They don't drink coffee---they drink Gatorade!:1rotfl:

Taltarzac725
10-23-2015, 07:23 PM
Are you sure it wasn't called "Alligator and the Kitchen Door"?

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/cocoaandsugar/alligatoratdoor.jpg

Love that picture unless I were on the other side of that door!

kittygilchrist
10-23-2015, 07:28 PM
The book Coyote and the Kitchen Door does mention sub-adults as suspects for pet losses. Coyote at the Kitchen Door: Living with Wildlife in Suburbia: Stephen DeStefano: 9780674060180: Amazon.com: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Coyote-Kitchen-Door-Wildlife-Suburbia/dp/0674060180)

In some neighbrhoods I have lived in, these sub-adults would be the first suspects for the disapperance of pets.


According to research, the pups who were born in January or February are now adolescent in age. They qualify as sub adults and what you say above references exactly the role they might be learning as villagers.

tomwed
10-23-2015, 07:33 PM
I am for proving it was a bobcat or coyote before blaming them and getting them killed. Oh, and watch out for wild young people in your neighbor. :)
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Pointer
10-24-2015, 03:20 AM
I quite enjoy the humorous banter. The alligator bit is funny. It's part of the reason I come on this site. Finding humor in life can dull pain and promote healing. I also enjoy learning from others experiences here. It's when someone is made to feel bad about themselves for posting that I take issue with.

kittygilchrist
10-24-2015, 03:47 AM
Pointer, you are right. Comic relief is helpful. I entertain myself on this topic by imagining the coyotes having discussions about Villagers....and
Coyote-News.com, that other site.