View Full Version : Palin linked to Facist and Racist
Guest
09-15-2008, 10:03 PM
Westbrook_Pegler.....
Interest in Pegler was recently revived when Republican Vice-Presidential nominee Sarah Palin quoted him in her acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota. "We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity", she said, a Pegler quote
"Pegler was a rabid Joe McCarthyite who loathed F.D.R. and Ike and tirelessly advanced the theory that American Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe (“geese,” he called them) were all likely Communists.
About the same speech, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wrote: "Fascist writer Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist who Sarah Palin approvingly quoted in her acceptance speech for the moral superiority of small town values, expressed his fervent hope about my father, Robert F. Kennedy, as he contemplated his own run for the presidency in 1965, that 'some white patriot of the Southern tier will spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises before the snow flies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westbrook_Pegler
Guest
09-15-2008, 10:14 PM
Great post Cologal. Unfortunately, I don't think Palin's bright enough to even know who she quoted. Just read the speech verbatim. Just my opinion. But I bet I'm right. Did I say "right." :laugh:
Guest
09-16-2008, 12:48 AM
Sorry, I don't see the relevancy. It seemed more like she just liked the message it conveyed without knowing who said it. The author was slime, the quote not bad.
Guest
09-16-2008, 06:09 AM
I guess I would somewhat agree with Chels...but Cologal has a point for showing it here...it is similar to the crap they say about Obama..
Everyone is talking about Obama's links to Muslim Extremist Groups...well perhaps Palin did know who she was quoting! Perhaps she knows his book inside and out. Maybe this man is her hero!!
KIDDING!!! She probably doesn't really know anything about him....the poor girl. They (the republicans) found themseleves a pretty little puppet to mold and sculpt into whatever they want. It was probably Cheney who wrote her speech!!!
:cus::cus:
I think I hear Bucco and Benj coming to yell at me....:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:
Guest
09-16-2008, 06:47 AM
I like her!
Guest
09-16-2008, 06:49 AM
You're right -- this type of post is exactly like many of the Obama posts and is just as wrong for the same reasons. They are non-issues. And, Bucco, before you get on your high horse, I don't mean his radical "connections" are non-issues -- on those I understand your fears; don't agree with them but understand them -- I mean the facts of his parentage and his grandfather's friends. To me, this rates up there with the Biden post about his gaffe. BFD!
Guest
09-16-2008, 07:13 AM
Will not get on my high horse REDWITCH...just remind COLOGAL, CHELSEA and CASSIE that Michelle Obama quoted Sal Alinsky in her speech and it made it to many many blogs but I also thought it was a loose connection.
I also want to ONCE AGAIN make it clear...I have never ever not once ever tried to tie Sen Obama with ANY MUSLIM groups, extreme or not. Read my links..they have very little to do with Muslims.
One more thing....you folks who find it necessary to belittle other people simply ruin all your credibility..what the snide comments about other people...does it feed your own ego?
Guest
09-16-2008, 08:33 AM
Whether it's any of the candidates, their spouses, their kids or their neighbors, holding the person as an advocate or follower of the quote's author is rarely correct.
Quoting folks always has its risks, but oftentimes the past statements of people one view as in the "different" category are contemporary and accurate. Ask yourself if any of the following, all quotes of note, fit either how you think, any philosophy you have, or are "true."
1. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.
2. I believe in one thing only, the power of human will.
3. What we wish, we readily believe, and what we ourselves think, we imagine others think also.
4. The purpose of the United Nations should be to protect the essential sovereignty of nations, large and small.
5. Once you get the right image the details aren't that important.
For those who are interested, the statement (as numbered)is credited to the follow people.
1. Adolf Hitler; 2. Joseph Stalin; 3. Caius Julius Caeser; 4. Nikita Khrushchev; 5. Abbie Hoffman
Guest
09-16-2008, 10:45 AM
It is similar to the crap they say about Obama......
Exactly my point and Bucco helped me out by pointing out the Sal Alinsky quote in Michelle Obama's speech. In my research I have found out that Sal Alinsky found an effective way to do community organization. Obama learned that strategy in Chicago. But Sal Alinsky was a radical socialist politically...many posts have "connected" Obama to Alinsky even though Obama NEVER met him. Obama was introduced to Alinsky strategy 13 years after Alinsky death.
In other posted Obama is linked to a communist poet he knew as a child in Hawaii. It just goes on Black Liberation Army...the Weatherman....
So Sarah Palin used a quote from an avowed Facist and Racist...One who wanted a son of the South to kill RFK...and it did happen.
So if I connect the dots in the same spirit that the others do then by association then I should fear Sarah Palin because she maybe a Facist and a Racist.
That is my point....the only point.
Guest
09-16-2008, 10:49 AM
Will not get on my high horse REDWITCH...just remind COLOGAL, CHELSEA and CASSIE that Michelle Obama quoted Sal Alinsky in her speech and it made it to many many blogs but I also thought it was a loose connection.
I also want to ONCE AGAIN make it clear...I have never ever not once ever tried to tie Sen Obama with ANY MUSLIM groups, extreme or not. Read my links..they have very little to do with Muslims.
One more thing....you folks who find it necessary to belittle other people simply ruin all your credibility..what the snide comments about other people...does it feed your own ego?
My post did nothing to belittle Sarah Palin....everything that I posted is true and I provided a link.
Guest
09-16-2008, 11:48 AM
A quote from the same initially referenced Wikipedia article:
"The depiction of the anti-Fascist Pegler as himself a Fascist (or "pro-Nazi" or "anti-Semite," etc.) seems to have begun in the late 40s, when Pegler's column intensified its swipes at such leftist politicians as Henry Wallace and pro-Wallace journalists such as Ralph Ingersoll of New York's PM newspaper.[10] Pegler himself was famously an anti-Communist and Catholic. His wife, Julia Harpman Pegler, was a onetime New York Daily News crime reporter who came from a Jewish family in Tennessee.[11]"
The accusations that Pegler is a "fascist" are not just exaggerated but a false smear. Most Americans would gladly associate with the likes of Pegler (whose association with Palin is merely via a brief reference to something he wrote) than the likes of folks Obama has been close to (whose associations with his radical friends was - and continues to be - both personal and lasting.)
Sorry, point not well taken because there is no comparison. Good try, though.
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