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Taltarzac725
11-01-2015, 03:19 PM
The CBS Evening News will be airing a piece at 6:20 p.m. today on golf cart accidents in The Villages.

The piece will include information on accidents, including the two fatal accidents in The Villages this year.

The first on Jan. 14 claimed the life of Francis “Buck” Hughes.

The second fatal accident occurred on Oct. 20. Villager Donald Browne died of injuries suffered in the crash. His wife, Dottie, was also seriously injured.

We will have to see if the other Villages news site is right about this. The Quote is from there. Please put in a link if this is correct from CBS News.

rubicon
11-01-2015, 04:09 PM
I don't see that as good for The Villages

goodtimesintv
11-01-2015, 06:17 PM
The article dated today, Nov. 1 on that other site we're not supposed to mention, says it airs on Nov. 22.

Not sure why this is national news.

The CBS Evening News will be airing a piece later this month on golf cart accidents in The Villages.

The segment is set to air on Nov. 22.

The piece will include information on accidents, including the two fatal accidents in The Villages this year.

JGVillages
11-01-2015, 06:20 PM
Considering we have 50000+ carts interacting with other carts and cars on a daily basis unfortunate accidents are bound to occur. Since we are quite probably the only community anywhere with this type of interaction of so many carts and cars on a daily basis, any type of data to to quantify if our accident ratio is within a normal range cannot be calculated. Any death or serious injury is certainly a tragedy, but because of this unique interaction between vehicles some accidents are unavoidable.

graciegirl
11-01-2015, 07:05 PM
The article dated today, Nov. 1 on that other site we're not supposed to mention, says it airs on Nov. 22.

Not sure why this is national news.



To some very young people working on programming for the news, old people are cartoony cute and what they do isn't really real life to them.


And others get us. They are close to their grandparents.

Sandtrap328
11-01-2015, 09:24 PM
I did not see the news piece but I hope it mentioned how many golf carts are in The Villages - and that fatalities will occur when the driver makes a sudden turn in front of an oncoming car or van.

Bryan
11-02-2015, 05:12 AM
I will be on the lookout for that segment. It could be interesting. But, as you may know JGVillagers, it probably won't mention statistics on accidents. Our esteemed traffic engineer from Kimberly-Horn has already ruled that increased safety and visibility measures such as side stripping our multi modal paths would have no impact on our accident statistics because they are already so low. Of course, neither of our two golf cart accidental deaths this year occurred on multi modal paths. Both of those were on roads shared by golf carts and cars. Cars are bigger, they usually 'win' in a collision situation with a golf cart.

graciegirl
11-02-2015, 07:25 AM
I will be on the lookout for that segment. It could be interesting. But, as you may know JGVillagers, it probably won't mention statistics on accidents. Our esteemed traffic engineer from Kimberly-Horn has already ruled that increased safety and visibility measures such as side stripping our multi modal paths would have no impact on our accident statistics because they are already so low. Of course, neither of our two golf cart accidental deaths this year occurred on multi modal paths. Both of those were on roads shared by golf carts and cars. Cars are bigger, they usually 'win' in a collision situation with a golf cart.



So true. Please all be careful. Don't let grandchildren drive them unsupervised over the Thanksgiving holiday.

The20Percent
11-13-2015, 12:58 AM
I have a feeling that a lot of the golf cart accidents (non fatal) go unreported and might not even be discussed here on totv. A few weeks ago I witnessed two accidents, a week apart, after they had both occurred on Pinellas. The first was a lady who had flipped her cart completely over and was receiving medical treatment while laying flat on the street. The other was a worker who was finishing up his day's work on a customer's lanai and was removing safety cones on the golf cart path behind his house and was hit head on by an oncoming cart! I think the strong glare of the sun into the cart's windsheild might have been a possible/partial cause of the cart driver not seeing this person. I heard that the cart broke both of the workers legs and he was bleeding from his head! I never saw where these two incidents were reported. Hopefully these two victims are recovering well. You can't be careful enough on these carts and need to be aware of your surroundings at all times!

rubicon
11-13-2015, 05:48 AM
Perhaps residents are too fixated on this issue especially given the proportion of accidents vis a vis golf cart miles traveled?

Frankly I am a bit tired of those curious folks poking at us as if we were a lab experiment. I am not flattered by the attention especially topics that are degrading or exaggerated .

Taltarzac725
11-13-2015, 07:31 AM
Perhaps residents are too fixated on this issue especially given the proportion of accidents vis a vis golf cart miles traveled?

Frankly I am a bit tired of those curious folks poking at us as if we were a lab experiment. I am not flattered by the attention especially topics that are degrading or exaggerated .

They do seem to be picking on the Villages more now for some reason. There are all kinds of great stories they could be covering.

tuccillo
11-13-2015, 07:50 AM
In the competition for viewers, you should expect that the more "interesting" stories will get air time and The Villages is certainly an interesting place. We all need to be ducks and let it roll off our backs. The less than flattering news stories do not define us as a community or individuals.

Perhaps residents are too fixated on this issue especially given the proportion of accidents vis a vis golf cart miles traveled?

Frankly I am a bit tired of those curious folks poking at us as if we were a lab experiment. I am not flattered by the attention especially topics that are degrading or exaggerated .

Taltarzac725
11-13-2015, 07:54 AM
CBS Evening News - On The Road - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/evening-news/on-the-road/)

Perhaps Steve Hartman will pay us a visit? :welcome:

SouthOfTheBorder
11-13-2015, 08:18 AM
We have only been living here 2-1/2 years but we can’t figure out how what others say, write, or think has impacted our lifestyle. We are enjoying new friends and activities so much we can’t imagine anything (short of a huge event) getting in the way of our daily lives. We love our full-time move into TV, the people we meet and all that it provides to us. Who would have thunk at our age........ :thumbup:

Don

Taltarzac725
11-13-2015, 08:27 AM
We have only been living here 2-1/2 years but we can’t figure out how what others say, write, or think has impacted our lifestyle. We are enjoying new friends and activities so much we can’t imagine anything (short of a huge event) getting in the way of our daily lives. We love our full-time move into TV, the people we meet and all that it provides to us. Who would have thunk at our age........ :thumbup:

Don

Except for more and more people moving here despite whatever bad publicity might crop up.

Nucky
11-13-2015, 09:29 AM
Anyone's negative words can't hurt the attraction of TV. People have a personal beef over something every day but if you see The Villages in person it needs no promotion. When your at the top of your category no matter what it is it has become a sport to try and knock you off of the #1 spot. I had 9 appointments from Ocala to Tampa to look at places to live this past March. When my 3rd stop was in TV I called the others and cancelled the appointments...I found home...I knew it immediately. I actually teared up a little. My investigation when I arrived home just confirmed my feelings. The golf cart accidents are a shame but people who rush will never stop rushing, the only chance you have is to be aware of your surroundings when driving just like anywhere else.

justjim
11-13-2015, 09:45 AM
Insurance on a golf cart is currently low----lookout in the future when the insurance industry gets their act together on all these accidents.

Taltarzac725
11-13-2015, 10:04 AM
Insurance on a golf cart is currently low----lookout in the future when the insurance industry gets their act together on all these accidents.

It seems like a relatively low number given the traffic flow here in the Villages. Not so much if you are in one on these accidents but that's another matter.

Walter123
11-22-2015, 07:49 AM
This is supposed to air tonight. I can't find a listing. Does anyone have any additional info?

Taltarzac725
11-22-2015, 07:51 AM
This is supposed to air tonight. I can't find a listing. Does anyone have any additional info?

What do the football games on CBS look like, if any? 2015 NFL Football Schedule - Week 11 - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/schedules)

It will probably show up here if aired. More from CBS Evening News News - CBS
News (http://www.cbsnews.com/latest/evening-news/)

CBS Evening News - Full Episodes Video - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/evening-news/full-episodes/)

zcaveman
11-22-2015, 07:56 AM
What do the football games on CBS look like, if any? 2015 NFL Football Schedule - Week 11 - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/schedules)

It will probably show up here if aired. More from CBS Evening News News - CBS
News (http://www.cbsnews.com/latest/evening-news/)

CBS Evening News - Full Episodes Video - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/evening-news/full-episodes/)

According to my TV news, we only have the early game on CBS.

Z

Taltarzac725
11-22-2015, 08:03 AM
According to my TV news, we only have the early game on CBS.

Z

The Villages, Florida TV Listings (http://tvlistings.aol.com/listings/fl/the-villages/over-the-air/32159#x)

It should be at 6:00 P.M.

twoplanekid
11-22-2015, 08:37 AM
CBS news was still focused on Paris not the Villages this evening per their internet taped full episode from November 21st, 2015.

Taltarzac725
11-22-2015, 08:45 AM
CBS news was still focused on Paris not the Villages this evening per their internet taped full episode from November 21st, 2015.

It is supposedly tonight. And the events in Paris do seem a lot more important than a few golf cart accidents in the Villages. Preventing injuries to Villages in golf carts is important too but mainly for Villagers and their guests.

JoMar
11-22-2015, 01:23 PM
Over the years CBS has done several pieces on us. Most are flattering including the lifestyle and the golf cart drill team. I suspect this piece was developed because this is the largest golf cart community and there is a National movement of communities that are opening their streets to golf carts and removing street parking to facilitate the integration. Let's wait until the piece airs before we start throwing rocks.

JoMar
11-22-2015, 01:25 PM
If you are going to DVR the show remember there is a football game this afternoon which means the 6:00 CBS news will not start at 6:00.

MrGolf
11-22-2015, 01:56 PM
There is no late football game on CBS . The segment will air at 6:00pm

Bjeanj
11-22-2015, 06:32 PM
We must have gotten bumped.

village dreamer
11-22-2015, 06:49 PM
I'm out of the state and looking at cbs news and did not see it.

twoplanekid
11-22-2015, 07:03 PM
I thought for sure when CBS said that clowns would be on next, they would be talk about Villagers driving golf carts. Alas, Villagers will be next sometime in the future.

Mleeja
11-22-2015, 07:37 PM
I thought for sure when CBS said that clowns would be on next, they would be talk about Villagers driving golf carts. Alas, Villagers will be next sometime in the future.

I guess this means we will need to keep watching CBS Evening News

Taltarzac725
11-22-2015, 08:39 PM
I thought for sure when CBS said that clowns would be on next, they would be talk about Villagers driving golf carts. Alas, Villagers will be next sometime in the future.

Send in the clowns....:1rotfl: These were for the Macy's Day Parade.

Mleeja
11-23-2015, 06:58 PM
Nothing on CBS News tonight. Nothing on web site either.

Taltarzac725
11-24-2015, 08:17 AM
Nothing on CBS News tonight. Nothing on web site either.

That's the news station I now usually watch and I tape it too. Used to watch ABC News with Diane Sawyer because of some of the numbers that would show up from time-to-time, but now prefer the CBS Nightly News.

richl
12-17-2015, 07:12 PM
I agree about being aware of your environment but some accidents are very avoidable with common sense driving.
Last year, I was parked in front of Tuscany's in Sumter Landing where I got a hair cut. When I finished, I got in my golf cart and observed no cars in either direction so I started to back out of the parking spot into my lane when something hit my golf cart. It turned out it was an elderly couple who had parked on the other side of the street and decided to back across both lanes and over the 2 solid yellow lines to get into my lane instead of backing into their own lane and turning around at the next intersection to change directions. It really starteled me and I got very upset as I was in disbelief some one would do something as dumb as that. The sad part was the lady driver looked at me like she was upset because i got in her way - I was not even out of my parking spot when she hit me. Fortunately, there was no obvious damage so I went about my business feeling upset that she did not even realize she broke 2 laws during this short incident. I had to use every bit of energy to avoid saying something I might feel bad about later.
Yesterday, I was driving on St Charles street towards Buena Vista and you have to exit right when you get to the gate to continue on towards the Bacall PB courts. The turn is a sharp right and a soft left to get to the tunnel. At the soft left, there is an option to also go right. If you are coming from the tunnel towards this intersection,your cart is hidden until you make that soft left turn where you can either go right to St Charles St or go straight to another section of the path. So I exited St Charles very slowly as I always do and started to enter the soft left turn when a golf cart from the tunnel direction came around the corner at top speed and cut right in front of me to go to the other section of the path. I was barely able to avoid an accident - he was driving - IMHO - recklessly. I wish there were a way to get people to drive more carefully. After all, we are all retired for the most part - what can be that important to run the risk of injury.

graciegirl
12-17-2015, 07:34 PM
I agree about being aware of your environment but some accidents are very avoidable with common sense driving.
Last year, I was parked in front of Tuscany's in Sumter Landing where I got a hair cut. When I finished, I got in my golf cart and observed no cars in either direction so I started to back out of the parking spot into my lane when something hit my golf cart. It turned out it was an elderly couple who had parked on the other side of the street and decided to back across both lanes and over the 2 solid yellow lines to get into my lane instead of backing into their own lane and turning around at the next intersection to change directions. It really starteled me and I got very upset as I was in disbelief some one would do something as dumb as that. The sad part was the lady driver looked at me like she was upset because i got in her way - I was not even out of my parking spot when she hit me. Fortunately, there was no obvious damage so I went about my business feeling upset that she did not even realize she broke 2 laws during this short incident. I had to use every bit of energy to avoid saying something I might feel bad about later.
Yesterday, I was driving on St Charles street towards Buena Vista and you have to exit right when you get to the gate to continue on towards the Bacall PB courts. The turn is a sharp right and a soft left to get to the tunnel. At the soft left, there is an option to also go right. If you are coming from the tunnel towards this intersection,your cart is hidden until you make that soft left turn where you can either go right to St Charles St or go straight to another section of the path. So I exited St Charles very slowly as I always do and started to enter the soft left turn when a golf cart from the tunnel direction came around the corner at top speed and cut right in front of me to go to the other section of the path. I was barely able to avoid an accident - he was driving - IMHO - recklessly. I wish there were a way to get people to drive more carefully. After all, we are all retired for the most part - what can be that important to run the risk of injury.



Keep whistling Dixie and say your beads. That is why people talk so much about reckless driving. You are the only one who can watch out for YOU. Please do.

Barefoot
12-18-2015, 12:11 AM
Perhaps residents are too fixated on this issue especially given the proportion of accidents vis a vis golf cart miles traveled? Frankly I am a bit tired of those curious folks poking at us as if we were a lab experiment. I am not flattered by the attention especially topics that are degrading or exaggerated .

In the competition for viewers, you should expect that the more "interesting" stories will get air time and The Villages is certainly an interesting place. We all need to be ducks and let it roll off our backs. The less than flattering news stories do not define us as a community or individuals.
Two good posts offering different points of view.
This is what I enjoy about TOTV. Opinions expressed without critizing other posters.

rubicon
12-18-2015, 06:40 AM
Two good posts offering different points of view.
This is what I enjoy about TOTV. Opinions expressed without critizing other posters.

Hi Barefoot: I recognized your cart too late as you passed me Wednesday AM on Buena Vista near Bridgeport Village. Thought about giving you the New York Yahoo but ....................... Anyway i agree with your above-stated sentiment.

Personal Best Regards:

Taltarzac725
12-18-2015, 08:07 AM
Any sign of this segment on golf cart accidents in the Villages yet? I missed few of these nightly CBS Evening News broadcasts.

I found this very cool story on Villages' golf carts--

Extreme golf carts - Photo 1 - Pictures - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/extreme-golf-carts/)

Taltarzac725
12-26-2015, 07:08 PM
This aired tonight 12/26/2015.

I do not see it online just yet but it will probably show up soon. CBS Evening News with Scott Pelley - Latest News & Videos - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/evening-news/)

It is more about electric golf carts in the Villages.

Jdmiata
12-26-2015, 08:10 PM
Just saw this on CBS. It talked about street legal electric carts. 16 fatalities in the last 8 years.

champion6
12-26-2015, 09:28 PM
Link to video: Hot rod golf carts becoming the new trend in retirement communities - Videos - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/hot-rod-golf-carts-becoming-the-new-trend-in-retirement-communities/)

Taltarzac725
12-26-2015, 09:33 PM
Link to video: Hot rod golf carts becoming the new trend in retirement communities - Videos - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/hot-rod-golf-carts-becoming-the-new-trend-in-retirement-communities/)

Thanks, Champion6. :gc:

goodtimesintv
12-26-2015, 09:56 PM
I watched the clip linked above. I think it clouded the subject more than it shed light and clarified it.

When the Villager driving the cart said it's street legal "because it has license plates", that's a poor, poor explanation. There are thousands of "license plates" on golf carts that are purely ornamental, from our previous residences/states.

There is much, much more to the story on what is a street legal cart and what is a regular golf cart that is allowed on most Villages streets except the 35mph boulevards and roundabouts.

I think the clip was useless except to say that this is what "old people" do and that 16 people got killed on them. I wish the News networks would stick with "news" instead of fluff like this.

BogeyBoy
12-26-2015, 10:54 PM
I watched the clip linked above. I think it clouded the subject more than it shed light and clarified it.

When the Villager driving the cart said it's street legal "because it has license plates", that's a poor, poor explanation. There are thousands of "license plates" on golf carts that are purely ornamental, from our previous residences/states.

There is much, much more to the story on what is a street legal cart and what is a regular golf cart that is allowed on most Villages streets except the 35mph boulevards and roundabouts.

I think the clip was useless except to say that this is what "old people" do and that 16 people got killed on them. I wish the News networks would stick with "news" instead of fluff like this.

:agree:

JP
12-26-2015, 11:00 PM
Gee, maybe somebody from the government watched the CBS news piece and it will inspire them to pass a whole bunch of new laws to make golf carts safer and more expensive. Let's hope not.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
12-27-2015, 04:07 AM
What do the football games on CBS look like, if any? 2015 NFL Football Schedule - Week 11 - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/schedules)

It will probably show up here if aired. More from CBS Evening News News - CBS
News (http://www.cbsnews.com/latest/evening-news/)

CBS Evening News - Full Episodes Video - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/evening-news/full-episodes/)

The video won't play for me, but this is from the text.

According to the Sumter County Sheriff's Office, over the past eight years, 16 people in the Villages riding in gold carts have been killed in road accidents. Almost all of them were not wearing seat belts and were ejected.

A community of 110,000 people and 60,000 golf carts has two fatalities per year. This is news?

How many people were killed in car accidents in communities of this size in that eight year period? How many motorcycle fatalities were there in The Villages in that same time? How many bicyclist were killed?

But keep an eye out of mandatory seat belts and higher insurance rates in our future.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
12-27-2015, 04:10 AM
I watched the clip linked above. I think it clouded the subject more than it shed light and clarified it.

When the Villager driving the cart said it's street legal "because it has license plates", that's a poor, poor explanation. There are thousands of "license plates" on golf carts that are purely ornamental, from our previous residences/states.

There is much, much more to the story on what is a street legal cart and what is a regular golf cart that is allowed on most Villages streets except the 35mph boulevards and roundabouts.

I think the clip was useless except to say that this is what "old people" do and that 16 people got killed on them. I wish the News networks would stick with "news" instead of fluff like this.

According to the text, he said that it's "legal" because it has license. That would imply that carts without plate are not legal. If you ask me, there's more risk of injury or death driving a street legal cart on roads where the speed limit is 35 and 40 mph is commonplace.

golfing eagles
12-27-2015, 05:48 AM
I watched this segment and I'm not sure I got the point, if there even was any. Was it:
a) someone at CBS news thought it would be cute to show gramps tooling around in tricked out golf cart?
b) someone at CBS news has a parent living in TV and had an axe to grind about golf cart accidents?
c) notice they slipped in "Urban areas are beginning to think slower is better"--?prelude to more regulations, cart paths in cities at God knows what cost, more government control of your life?
d) Note they only mentioned electric carts, even though the vast majority of carts in TV are gas. Was this a subtle push for a "green" agenda, ultimately addressing "the most important security concern for the US"---"global warming"?
Sad that you cannot watch a fluff piece on a known liberal TV station and not suspect a political agenda. Maybe this "important" issue will be a question at the next presidential debate.
What I would really like to know, given that most of our electricity is generated from fossil fuels, is the actual carbon footprint, per mile driven, of gas vs. electric carts. Also, the environmental impact of manufacturing and eventually disposing of all those batteries which contain toxic material?

NECHFalcon68
12-27-2015, 08:06 AM
If this is representative of the detail of their reporting, I am no longer watching CBS news...

outlaw
12-27-2015, 08:31 AM
It was only about 2 minutes. How much can they say in that amount of time? I thought it was reasonable. It did not portray TV in a negative view, imo. In fact, the reporter noted that TV was "quite a sight" for someone who had never visited before. It finished with saying that cities in California and New York were "fast tracking" LSVs to slow traffic down.

buzzy
12-27-2015, 08:48 AM
A content-free human nature piece. For anybody living outside The villages, they probably yawned through the whole video. No subliminal messages intended to control behavior.

golfing eagles
12-27-2015, 08:49 AM
It was only about 2 minutes. How much can they say in that amount of time? I thought it was reasonable. It did not portray TV in a negative view, imo. In fact, the reporter noted that TV was "quite a sight" for someone who had never visited before. It finished with saying that cities in California and New York were "fast tracking" LSVs to slow traffic down.

Why? Safer?---I doubt it in heavy traffic. Billions to change road lanes and parking spaces? Let me guess----"electric carts" only? That way the government can cram their "global warming" agenda down our throats. Add to that the cost of 10-14K each, Yamaha and EZ Go are licking their chops. Cost of garage space in a big city?--$500+/month. The vast majority of inner city residents won't be able to afford it. Easy to steal, easy to "carjack"---the "bad guys" will love it, and the "good guys" aren't allowed to have CCPs.
Golf carts on a golf course and a community that primarily is residential and surrounds those courses are great. Wouldn't want to drive one thru the south side of Chicago or Bed-Sty. Another brilliant idea from the rocket scientist politicians and urban planners.

tomwed
12-27-2015, 09:14 AM
Where is the data that New York or California is considering LSV's as a form of transportation?
And why do they cost 10-14k when a Nissan Versa 1.6 S cost $12,815 (including destination charge)
The Least Expensive New Cars of 2015 (http://cars.about.com/od/toppicks/ss/Least-Expensive-Cars.htm)

golfing eagles
12-27-2015, 09:18 AM
Where is the data that New York or California is considering LSV's as a form of transportation?
The Least Expensive New Cars of 2015 (http://cars.about.com/od/toppicks/ss/Least-Expensive-Cars.htm)

So far, only on CBS news

And why do they cost 10-14k when a Nissan Versa 1.6 S cost $12,815 (including destination charge)

Different target market

tomwed
12-27-2015, 09:37 AM
So far, only on CBS news

And why do they cost 10-14k when a Nissan Versa 1.6 S cost $12,815 (including destination charge)

Different target market
In other words, they will charge 10-14k because we will pay 10-14k. If that's what you mean, then that's what I also suspected. Clearly the versa is a superior product for getting around and costs far more to manufacture.

golfing eagles
12-27-2015, 09:49 AM
In other words, they will charge 10-14k because we will pay 10-14k. If that's what you mean, then that's what I also suspected. Clearly the versa is a superior product for getting around and consequently costs far more to manufacture.

Diamonds are among the most common rocks on Earth, but their supply is strictly controlled, otherwise they would be essentially worthless. 150 years of marketing as well and you are willing to pay $800-$12,000 per carat for a lump of carbon. Wish I thought of it first.

billethkid
12-27-2015, 10:10 AM
I watched the news clip and concluded it was a masterful job of mis-information.

Out of the 50-60 thousand golf cars in TV they choose to feature the low speed vehicle as the focus of the golf cart story of TV. When there is much more of a story about the use of golf carts in general.

The story was not very well edited jumping from cart shots, to random street shots to wrecked golf carts.

Missed the point.
Poorly done.

Amateur empty space filler clip.

njbchbum
12-27-2015, 10:22 AM
I watched this segment and I'm not sure I got the point, if there even was any. Was it:
a) someone at CBS news thought it would be cute to show gramps tooling around in tricked out golf cart?
b) someone at CBS news has a parent living in TV and had an axe to grind about golf cart accidents?
c) notice they slipped in "Urban areas are beginning to think slower is better"--?prelude to more regulations, cart paths in cities at God knows what cost, more government control of your life?
d) Note they only mentioned electric carts, even though the vast majority of carts in TV are gas. Was this a subtle push for a "green" agenda, ultimately addressing "the most important security concern for the US"---"global warming"?
Sad that you cannot watch a fluff piece on a known liberal TV station and not suspect a political agenda. Maybe this "important" issue will be a question at the next presidential debate.
What I would really like to know, given that most of our electricity is generated from fossil fuels, is the actual carbon footprint, per mile driven, of gas vs. electric carts. Also, the environmental impact of manufacturing and eventually disposing of all those batteries which contain toxic material?

If this is representative of the detail of their reporting, I am no longer watching CBS news...

Wishing you folks would let CBS know your feelings!

njbchbum
12-27-2015, 10:23 AM
I watched the news clip and concluded it was a masterful job of mis-information.

Out of the 50-60 thousand golf cars in TV they choose to feature the low speed vehicle as the focus of the golf cart story of TV. When there is much more of a story about the use of golf carts in general.

The story was not very well edited jumping from cart shots, to random street shots to wrecked golf carts.

Missed the point.
Poorly done.

Amateur empty space filler clip.

Could not agree with you more!

Taltarzac725
12-27-2015, 10:24 AM
I did not notice any window wipers on the "legal" golf carts shown in this CBS Nightly News segment? Street Legal Golf Carts - Affordable Golf Cars of Venice Fl | Mobile (http://affordablegolfcars.net/street-legal-golf-carts-mobile/)

Taltarzac725
12-27-2015, 10:32 AM
With gas prices still high, golf carts, low-speed vehicles, gain fans | Tampa Bay Times (http://www.tampabay.com/news/aging/lifetimes/with-gas-prices-still-high-golf-carts-low-speed-vehicles-gain-fans/1193863)

A different news media take on golf carts in the Villages. This is from 2011.

MrGolf
12-27-2015, 10:54 AM
This segment was meant as a two minute filler to show grandpa living in a golf cart community. No hidden agenda. No earth shattering green plant directive. Come on folks, lighten up.

dewilson58
12-27-2015, 11:02 AM
This segment was meant as a two minute filler to show grandpa living in a golf cart community. No hidden agenda. No earth shattering green plant directive. Come on folks, lighten up.

I agree MG.

tomwed
12-27-2015, 11:10 AM
Diamonds are among the most common rocks on Earth, but their supply is strictly controlled, otherwise they would be essentially worthless. 150 years of marketing as well and you are willing to pay $800-$12,000 per carat for a lump of carbon. Wish I thought of it first.
The price of an LSV or Versa is based on what it costs to manufacture and what the customer will pay. The product solves a customer's problem.

But a diamond or work of art or even a rolling stones concert is mostly based on what the customer will pay and doesn't solve a problem.

I don't think they relate to each other.

duhbear
12-27-2015, 01:40 PM
Here is the segment which was pretty fair and not at all negative about TV:

Low-speed electric vehicles on the fast track among seniors - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/low-speed-electric-vehicles-on-the-fast-track-among-seniors/)

billethkid
12-27-2015, 03:14 PM
Here is the segment which was pretty fair and not at all negative about TV:

Low-speed electric vehicles on the fast track among seniors - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/low-speed-electric-vehicles-on-the-fast-track-among-seniors/)

The real story about golf cart use in TV was completely missed/overlooked/avoided(?).
Low speed vehicle use is dwarfed by conventional/custom golf cart use.

devohna
12-27-2015, 04:16 PM
I am also tired of reading about all that is wrong with the villages on here and on facebook. you do not see segments on how some of the clubs have filled a bus with school supplies, or hundreds of pajamas or tons of food for the pantrys and so on and so on, just the bad stuff. well I for one would just like to say if you do not like the villages stay the hell out of here. do not come and use our stores, squares or restaurants. and keep your golf carts off the cart paths we pay for. yes, we do have golf cart collisions just like car wrecks everywhere, we do have two for one drinks at the square which some people have no common sense about but we are a normal community just living the rest of our life with fun, happiness, activity and friends. most people who comment on this negitively are people with nothing in their lives other than gossiping or wanting what others have that they do not. as far as the news stations who cares what they think they never get it right anyway. so I for one will continue to go to the squares and have a great time with whatever time I have left on this earth.

golfing eagles
12-27-2015, 05:05 PM
:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

billethkid
12-27-2015, 06:53 PM
I am also tired of reading about all that is wrong with the villages on here and on facebook. you do not see segments on how some of the clubs have filled a bus with school supplies, or hundreds of pajamas or tons of food for the pantrys and so on and so on, just the bad stuff. well I for one would just like to say if you do not like the villages stay the hell out of here. do not come and use our stores, squares or restaurants. and keep your golf carts off the cart paths we pay for. yes, we do have golf cart collisions just like car wrecks everywhere, we do have two for one drinks at the square which some people have no common sense about but we are a normal community just living the rest of our life with fun, happiness, activity and friends. most people who comment on this negitively are people with nothing in their lives other than gossiping or wanting what others have that they do not. as far as the news stations who cares what they think they never get it right anyway. so I for one will continue to go to the squares and have a great time with whatever time I have left on this earth.

You appear to be a new member.
You will find soon enough it always seems the 2% minority/isolated isses get the attention as if they were the general condition when we all know it is not.

The other 98+% of us feel just like you in that there is more good in one day in TV than there is in manyy places in a year or more.

So we acknowledge the minority reports and isolated cases but have learned to not be burdened in any way by them.

DonH57
12-27-2015, 07:57 PM
Nothing more than a fluff piece for CBS to fill a few minutes. CBS cares!

markchat
12-28-2015, 06:55 AM
:gc:Wonder why they picked The Villages? Could it have anything to do with politics? After all, just two fatalities out of the millions of cart miles driven does not seem like a high fatality rate.

golfing eagles
12-28-2015, 07:09 AM
:gc:Wonder why they picked The Villages? Could it have anything to do with politics? After all, just two fatalities out of the millions of cart miles driven does not seem like a high fatality rate.

Good point. If it was supposed to be about cart accidents, at least originally, the community with the most accidents is Sun City, Arizona. And that is a lot closer to Hollywierd.

MDLNB
12-28-2015, 08:10 AM
Perhaps residents are too fixated on this issue especially given the proportion of accidents vis a vis golf cart miles traveled?

Frankly I am a bit tired of those curious folks poking at us as if we were a lab experiment. I am not flattered by the attention especially topics that are degrading or exaggerated .

:agree:....totally!

Mase4
12-28-2015, 09:00 AM
I am new to The Villages, but have been all over in my cart. It seems as if the trails were designed to be used at slow speed, i.e. there are bends when it could be straight, some areas are over grown with bushes making the paths narrower. Newer carts are a bit wider which is safer. Newer areas have some great paths.
Headlights are another problem, cart headlight are Spotlight, not real headlights as in your Vehicle. If you cart at night I am sure you have been blinded by oncoming cart lights being too high, and that is what Spotlights are.<

Taltarzac725
12-28-2015, 09:02 AM
I am new to The Villages, but have been all over in my cart. It seems as if the trails were designed to be used at slow speed, i.e. there are bends when it could be straight, some areas are over grown with bushes making the paths narrower. Newer carts are a bit wider which is safer. Newer areas have some great paths.
Headlights are another problem, cart headlight are Spotlight, not real headlights as in your Vehicle. If you cart at night I am sure you have been blinded by oncoming cart lights being too high, and that is what Spotlights are.<

And in the rain at night it is even worse especially if your cart does not have window wipers.

Suziegrandma
12-28-2015, 09:37 AM
With so many carts, I wonder why we don't have some sort of identification on our carts. Not everyone is honest and so many carts look alike. For instance, a cart hits a car in the parking lot and takes off without leaving any note. A witness sees this, but the only way to identify the cart is by color and brand.

MDLNB
12-28-2015, 10:47 AM
:gc:Wonder why they picked The Villages? Could it have anything to do with politics? After all, just two fatalities out of the millions of cart miles driven does not seem like a high fatality rate.

:agree:

Obviously politics. Off the subject but the same with the STD myth. My friend retired in Phoenix gave me a hard time about the STD article. I researched at the CDC site and found out that Phoenix has three times the STD rate as the Villages. I wrote him about it with the link and I have received no response, for some reason. :shrug:

MDLNB
12-28-2015, 10:54 AM
With so many carts, I wonder why we don't have some sort of identification on our carts. Not everyone is honest and so many carts look alike. For instance, a cart hits a car in the parking lot and takes off without leaving any note. A witness sees this, but the only way to identify the cart is by color and brand.

If you want a registration plate, then make it street legal and pay for insurance and registration. The cost of registering all the carts in the villages has to come from somewhere. The idea is that they are NOT street legal and were made to use on the golf course. We use them for primary transportation here, but they weren't originally meant for that practice. I can imagine how many auto accidents there would be in the villages if everyone drove cars instead of carts. And that is exactly what I would be doing, driving a car, if I was told I had to insure, register and pay taxes on a golf cart.

MDLNB
12-28-2015, 10:57 AM
Good point. If it was supposed to be about cart accidents, at least originally, the community with the most accidents is Sun City, Arizona. And that is a lot closer to Hollywierd.

And one third the population of the Villages, too.

ldj1938
12-28-2015, 11:16 AM
Please don't miss the biggest point of the story.....put seat belts in your cart and use them. I have seen two near fatal accidents of women laying in the street bleeding from a head wound after their husband or other driver made a sharp left turn.

ldj1938
12-28-2015, 11:32 AM
With so many carts, I wonder why we don't have some sort of identification on our carts. Not everyone is honest and so many carts look alike. For instance, a cart hits a car in the parking lot and takes off without leaving any note. A witness sees this, but the only way to identify the cart is by color and brand.

Back in the day when everyone drove a white care the owners had their names on the front of the cart...

James Doddato
12-28-2015, 03:22 PM
I feel we have about 1/3 Golf cart drives who do not play attention to what they are doing. The same goes for cars. They do not use the turning signals ect. They go the way they want to. You have to watch out for all drivers...
Maybe we need the police to start watching the golf cart rails.

James Doddato
12-28-2015, 03:25 PM
I feel we have about 1/3 Golf cart drives who do not play attention to what they are doing. The same goes for cars. They do not use the turning signals ect. They go the way they want to. You have to watch out for all drivers...
Maybe we need the police to start watching the golf cart trails. Plus use your seat belts.

MDLNB
12-28-2015, 04:01 PM
I feel we have about 1/3 Golf cart drives who do not play attention to what they are doing. The same goes for cars. They do not use the turning signals ect. They go the way they want to. You have to watch out for all drivers...
Maybe we need the police to start watching the golf cart trails. Plus use your seat belts.

We don't need the police to watch the golf cart trails. The trails are private property and we would either have to donate them to the country or hire off duty police officers. And you don't write tickets for minor traffic infractions on private property. I am sure that the police have better things to do than babysit seniors. Of course, I may be wrong on this. I am originally from another area, so I do not know for a fact what the police will do or not do down here.

Seat belts are not a bad idea. My wife made me install them in her cart. A hundred bucks to prevent some nasty accidents seems pretty cheap.

MDLNB
12-28-2015, 04:13 PM
In my opinion, the drivers in the Villages are some of the worst in the U.S. That said, I still don't want more laws and rules. I am not one for a gov nanny watching over my shoulder.
Instead of needing police oversight, why not try driving safely. I brought up stop sign violations in another thread a while back and had several folks tell me that they didn't' bother with them, use them for yield signs, or felt they were not legal signs. If you don't take driving seriously then you can expect more and more restrictions and rules.
I don't like mandated seat belts, but I put them in for my wife. I don't believe in motorcycle helmet laws, but I wear one always when operating my Harley. We don't need someone babysitting us with new laws. We need to act/drive safely and responsibly.

OhioBuckeye
12-28-2015, 05:04 PM
Personally I'm not insulted because the media & the govt. is talking about The Villages & our golf cart problem they think we have. My question to them is tell me where there's 50 or 60,000 golf carts used on a daily bases & doesn't have accidents. I look at it like were getting FREE advertisment for the Villages. Don't be insulted, look at the rest of the country, it's a bigger WRECK than the Villages!

MDLNB
12-29-2015, 10:12 AM
Personally I'm not insulted because the media & the govt. is talking about The Villages & our golf cart problem they think we have. My question to them is tell me where there's 50 or 60,000 golf carts used on a daily bases & doesn't have accidents. I look at it like were getting FREE advertisment for the Villages. Don't be insulted, look at the rest of the country, it's a bigger WRECK than the Villages!

:agree:

graciegirl
12-29-2015, 10:15 AM
The Villages Featured on CBS Evening News (http://www.insidethebubble.co/the-villages-featured-on-cbs-evening-news/?utm_content=buffer65e41&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=thevillagesfloridabook)

biker1
12-29-2015, 10:53 AM
What is a bit odd about the story is that it is focused on street legal golf carts. The two people they interviewed had street legal golf carts. However, the vast majority of the golf carts in The Villages are not street legal. They also make reference to the place "crawling with low speed electric vehicles" and then proceeded to show scenes with mostly gas carts.

graciegirl
12-29-2015, 11:58 AM
What is a bit odd about the story is that it is focused on street legal golf carts. The two people they interviewed had street legal golf carts. However, the vast majority of the golf carts in The Villages are not street legal. They also make reference to the place "crawling with low speed electric vehicles" and then proceeded to show scenes with mostly gas carts.



They didn't do their homework. They had some pre conceived ideas about golf carts and I bet they had them too about older people. That is why the woman who had sex on the square caused such a media frenzy.


We seniors are very much still alive and pretty darn happy, and I think that came across in this piece.

tomwed
12-29-2015, 12:59 PM
There many golf cart safty videos on youtube. click here (https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=golf%20cart%20safety%20youtube&oq=golf%20cart%20safety%20youtube&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64j69i59.6698j0j7)
There is one that's a compilation of accidents. I couldn't watch is for more than 10 seconds. It's that upsetting. I think an awareness campaign would be the most effective plan.

Taltarzac725
12-29-2015, 01:35 PM
There many golf cart safty videos on youtube. click here (https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=golf%20cart%20safety%20youtube&oq=golf%20cart%20safety%20youtube&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64j69i59.6698j0j7)
There is one that's a compilation of accidents. I couldn't watch is for more than 10 seconds. It's that upsetting. I think an awareness campaign would be the most effective plan.

Like those shop videos in high school? Those sometimes got really gross. They do make these sometimes so over-the-top that they become more comedic than effective like some of the anti- tobacco ads I have seen of late from the State of Florida.

Taltarzac725
12-29-2015, 01:40 PM
They didn't do their homework. They had some pre conceived ideas about golf carts and I bet they had them too about older people. That is why the woman who had sex on the square caused such a media frenzy.


We seniors are very much still alive and pretty darn happy, and I think that came across in this piece.

I liked this piece more than a lot of the other national news on the Villages.

tomwed
12-29-2015, 02:53 PM
Like those shop videos in high school? Those sometimes got really gross. They do make these sometimes so over-the-top that they become more comedic than effective like some of the anti- tobacco ads I have seen of late from the State of Florida.
The youtube that's hard to watch is the one that has recordings of accidents. They are not staged.