Paris terror attacks

[Topspinmo]

Terrible! I am afraid we will be next. I have good guess who funding and behind this. The only middle eastern country that don't have terror attacks??? Is my guess?

[billethkid]

Let us all hope and pray that what is happening in Paris is not being planned here in the USA.

[dbussone]

Amen

[villagetinker]

OMG, watching CNN, this is unbelievable, now up to 118 dead, and probably going up.

[AJ32162]

Let us all hope and pray that what is happening in Paris is not being planned here in the USA.

If it isn't currently being planned, it most likely will be.

[Chazz]

If it isn't currently being planned, it most likely will be.

Unfortunately, you are correct.

[DeanFL]

We've been very fortunate here in the U.S. Can't account for our good luck -other than a few "incidents" (sorry to use a belittling word, but).

Our good fortune will surely run out. Our borders are a sieve, we have many citizens that are sympathetic to these M.E. terror groups and hate the U.S., a plethora of weapons and worse easily available, generally empathetic public, and unbridled social media gone wild.
Let's face it folks - it would not take much for an infiltrated group to marshall their resources and do their dirty deeds across our country. I could go on but won't. Simply too scary; I always say I'm glad I'm my age as this war ('course the WH simply cannot say it) will spread even more and be decades. Hate that our kids and grandkids are in for this in their lifetimes.

[Taltarzac725]

More human intelligence rather than drones, technology, and the like is really needed now. I hope that the CIA and others have been very busy winning hearts and minds over the past fifteen years or so.

Kind of very hard though to stop lone wolves, cells of some kinds, etc. even with very good human intelligence.

[gerryann]

Praying for Paris

[CaliforniaGirl]

My best friend is visiting Paris and the apartment she rented is just 2 blocks from the concert hall. Have been on the phone with her since 6pm, I could hear the sirens. She's scared to death. Doesn't speak French, so local news isn't helping. I'm watching CNN and relaying news to her.

[Chi-Town]

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[jimbo2012]

Why Paris?

Why France if they hit Russia may make some sense

[kittygilchrist]

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Praying...

[Polar Bear]

...Why France if they hit Russia may make some sense
I think looking for sense in terrorism is an exercise in futility.

[AJ32162]

Why Paris?

Why France if they hit Russia may make some sense

Because the French (like much of the rest of world) are considered to be infidels by ISIS.

[dbussone]

Why Paris?



Why France if they hit Russia may make some sense


If you look at the data, you'll see France has taken in thousands of Muslims. Many are from Algeria. Cities like Nice have entire sections that are Muslim ghettos and are run by Sharia law. The French police dare not enter. Sounds a little like a couple of our larger depressed cities - Detroit maybe?

https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/3wIthZ.HibjLG0tXNvCa2Q--/dz00ODA7Y2M9NjA0ODAwO2FwcGlkPXNyY2hkZA--/http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M8a20590b403b8cb26a10c50d3d540814o0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300

[wendyquat]

Because the French (like much of the rest of world) are considered to be infidels by ISIS.

And, they are UNARMED , otherwise known as "sitting ducks"!

[Fraugoofy]

These attacks are horrific and terrifying. Prayers to all in Paris and to anyone who may be concerned for a loved one. These terrorist attacks must end. Senseless violence and the innocent pay the price.

[mac9]

My best friend is visiting Paris and the apartment she rented is just 2 blocks from the concert hall. Have been on the phone with her since 6pm, I could hear the sirens. She's scared to death. Doesn't speak French, so local news isn't helping. I'm watching CNN and relaying news to her.

Tell her to locate the BBC channel. It will be in English with French subtitles.

[villagerjack]

This very morning OBAMA said ISIS was completely contained.

[rubicon]

Both French and American intelligence missed. Perhaps NSA programs should resume? Perhaps our founders were correct in creating the 2nd Amendment?
Perhaps its time to squash the ISIS movement? Perhaps America should postpone allowing 10,000 plus Syrian refugees into this country? Perhaps it is time to take seriously securing our borders both north and south?
Perhaps its too late and terrorists are biding their time here to strike when they get their top priority target and can inflict the greatest damage?
One thing we know for sure is what America will be once the transformation
to a European style nation is complete

[golfing eagles]

Both French and American intelligence missed. Perhaps NSA programs should resume? Perhaps our founders were correct in creating the 2nd Amendment?
Perhaps its time to squash the ISIS movement? Perhaps America should postpone allowing 10,000 plus Syrian refugees into this country? Perhaps it is time to take seriously securing our borders both north and south?
Perhaps its too late and terrorists are biding their time here to strike when they get their top priority target and can inflict the greatest damage?
One thing we know for sure is what America will be once the transformation
to a European style nation is complete

the sad thing is that we were promised this "transformation", and as a nation agreed to it----TWICE!

[dbussone]

One of the dead terrorists in France was found to have a Syrian passport. Now how many Syrians is the Administration inviting to come to the U.S.?

[Chi-Town]

Showing solidarity.

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[MikeV]

the sad thing is that we were promised this "transformation", and as a nation agreed to it----TWICE!

No truer words were ever spoken. :bigbow:

[Taltarzac725]

https://www.facebook.com/NancyAlvarezWFTV/photos/a.723794690983196.1073741827.206856219343715/1171488886213772/?type=3&theater

Thought this was a good photograph of people doing good in the face of evil.

This too-- https://www.facebook.com/GoodMorningAmerica/posts/10153229830357061

https://www.facebook.com/bbcnews/videos/vb.228735667216/10153206236027217/?type=2&theater

[Walt.]

... Perhaps America should postpone allowing 10,000 plus Syrian refugees into this country? Perhaps it is time to take seriously securing our borders both north and south?

Can you imagine if, in 1943, Winston Churchill announced that Great Britain would take in 10,000 Austrians. Most of them would be men between the ages of 17 and 45. They have no papers and speak German... but he knows they are Austrian because they told him so.
Instead of being the hero that we was, he would have been kicked out of office.

[Arctic Fox]

And, they are UNARMED , otherwise known as "sitting ducks"!

If half a dozen terrorists set off explosive belts in a nightclub you are going to do no good at all with your hand-guns

[spring_chicken]

And, they are UNARMED , otherwise known as "sitting ducks"!

Bingo. No way they kill that many in a concert hall where people are allowed to carry.

[golf2140]

It's that peaceful religion again.

[Arctic Fox]

Bingo. No way they kill that many in a concert hall where people are allowed to carry.

So what is your time-line here?

Wait until the belt-explosives have been detonated, killing all they are going to kill and blowing all of the terrorists in half - in which case who is left for you to shoot other than innocent club-goers?

Or pre-emptively shoot everyone coming into the club just in case they are terrorists?

You have to have detection systems in place to stop the terrorists BEFORE they get into these places or, better still, intelligence that lets you stop them before they leave their homes.

[justjim]

This very morning OBAMA said ISIS was completely contained.

I am not an Obama fan but in "all fairness" wasn't he talking about Sinjar and the supply line of ISIS and not the entire ISIS movement?

[Taltarzac725]

Can you imagine if, in 1943, Winston Churchill announced that Great Britain would take in 10,000 Austrians. Most of them would be men between the ages of 17 and 45. They have no papers and speak German... but he knows they are Austrian because they told him so.
Instead of being the hero that we was, he would have been kicked out of office.

United States Policy Toward Jewish Refugees, 1941 (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007094)

Thought this was very interesting.

Context though is very important.

[Walt.]

How long before we hear that the real danger we have to watch out for is a backlash against peaceful Muslims? Then we'll get reports on the news about some guy in Idaho who "got a dirty look because he's Muslim" and some Muslim waitress in Chicago who has noticed that her tips are smaller than they used to be...

[Bonnevie]

Why Paris?

Why France if they hit Russia may make some sense

I think France has a high Muslim population. When I was there recently on a river cruise one of the maps they gave us of Paris was in Arabic which surprised me. Some of the French group leaders was quite vocal in her displeasure in having so many in the country. Because they have French passports, they can travel to Syria and return to do things like this.

[Buffalo Jim]

I heard that the attackers may have been offended by a YouTube Video ...........

[rubicon]

Can you imagine if, in 1943, Winston Churchill announced that Great Britain would take in 10,000 Austrians. Most of them would be men between the ages of 17 and 45. They have no papers and speak German... but he knows they are Austrian because they told him so.
Instead of being the hero that we was, he would have been kicked out of office.

Walt: The succeeding generations following the the greatest generation has failed to produce statesmen that equal the likes of Winston Churchill and many of the great leaders back then. We do however have high caliber leaders who for self interests know how to make money for themselves. In simpler terms its going from "service to country" to "me first" Truman left office and despite his meager living refused to trade on his name believing he was selling out the presidency. Clinton sold tickets to the Lincoln bedroom.....................

[Taltarzac725]

Let's wait and see who these people were that did this. They look like people who wanted to kill as many other people as possible because of a very warped view of some religion. ISIS is barbaric. It is not the only expression of Islam though in France or pretty much anywhere else except for regions controlled by this fascist regime. The stateless Kurds are right about radical Islam, but the west is too meek to stop Isis (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/12/will-no-one-help-kurds-fight-fascism)

[outlaw]

Coming to a town near you....and remember, no profiling, and no fighting during Ramadan. And have a very, very, merry Chris...er uh...winter solstice..??

[kittygilchrist]

Have been watching Jihad since mid 90's.
Nothing I ever said to people got their attention, all the way forward to July 2014 on totv.
We are idiots, clowns, blind, fools.....

[spring_chicken]

So what is your time-line here?

Wait until the belt-explosives have been detonated, killing all they are going to kill and blowing all of the terrorists in half - in which case who is left for you to shoot other than innocent club-goers?

Or pre-emptively shoot everyone coming into the club just in case they are terrorists?

You have to have detection systems in place to stop the terrorists BEFORE they get into these places or, better still, intelligence that lets you stop them before they leave their homes.

You keep repeating the explosive angle and I've waited, hoping you would read up on what actually happened in the club, the concert hall and restaurants. It was NOT explosives. It was guns. The actual occurrence was what I based my post on. Not what ifs. You can what if it to death, but
I prefer to stay on topic of what actually happened.

[Taltarzac725]

Have been watching Jihad since mid 90's.
Nothing I ever said to people got their attention, all the way forward to July 2014 on totv.
We are idiots, clowns, blind, fools.....

What can be done without becoming a country like USSR under Stalin, Germany under Hitler, China under various leaders, Italy under Mussolini, etc.?

If we want a country where the US Constitution means something...? Remember what was happening in France in 1791? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_drafting_and_ratification_of_the_Unite d_States_Constitution

Bill of Rights - Bill of Rights Institute (http://www.billofrightsinstitute.org/founding-documents/bill-of-rights/)

https://faculty.unlv.edu/gbrown/hist462/resources/chrono.htm

[spring_chicken]

Closing our borders and enforcing existing immigration laws would not make us like any of those countries. In fact it would have saved many lives over the last 8 years.

[gomoho]

The refugees have already arrived in Louisiana. The Governor has sent a letter to the President asking for information as to how they were vetted, where are they being placed, who will keep track of them. The flood gates have opened and there is no going back now.

[Taltarzac725]

French Jets Bomb Syria After Police Launched International Manhunt for 'Dangerous' Suspect - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/International/french-jets-bomb-syria-police-launched-international-manhunt/story?id=35215091)

Looks like the French are doing the right thing and going after the people who planned or somehow supported these horrible crimes in Paris.

You go after the criminals who did these wrongs not the people who just share their religion, nationality, skin color, etc. I thought we learned something from the Japanese Internment? That did stop some of the potential attacks by those with loved of Japanese culture/religion/history, etc in 1941-1946. It also put a stain on the human rights record of this great Nation. Japanese-American Relocation - World War II - HISTORY.com (http://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/japanese-american-relocation)

[Shimpy]

And, they are UNARMED , otherwise known as "sitting ducks"!

:agree:

[Shimpy]

This very morning OBAMA said ISIS was completely contained.

He also said when promoting gun control that mass murder attacks don't happen in other civilized countries.

[Taltarzac725]

France bombs ISIS recruitment centre and training camp in Syria (http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/france-drops-20-bombs-on-islamic-state-in-syria-after-attacks-in-paris/story-fnh81ifq-1227610409856?utm_content=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=EditorialSF&utm_source=News.com.au&utm_medium=Facebook)

More on the French reprisals against ISIS. ISIS is about as Muslim as the Inquisition was Catholic. They were/are extremes.

[graciegirl]

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[kittygilchrist]

My brother used the words "nuke 'em" once in the past...
I never agree with him, but looking back, bro, you had a point.

[Taltarzac725]

My brother used the words "nuke 'em" once in the past...
I never agree with him, but looking back, bro, you had a point.

That probably needed to be done in August of 1945 in Japan. It saved hundreds of thousands of US, British, Indian, Australian, and New Zealand Armed Forces lives.

[Matzy]

Praying for the people of Paris. I just returned from Paris. No more words necessary.

[kittygilchrist]

Praying for the people of Paris. I just returned from Paris. No more words necessary.

Joining you in prayer and asking for your comfort.

[njbchbum]

It wouldn't be seen as a "warning" (alert to something bad coming), if the hearer is okay with it as part of a larger agenda of "transformation".

Amen! Ain't that the truth!

[tcxr750]

FYI. ISIS gets $1,500,000 per day from captured oil fields in Iraq and Syria.

[graciegirl]

ISIS threatens attack on Washington, other countries - AOL (http://www.aol.com/article/2015/11/16/islamic-state-threatens-attack-on-washington-other-countries/21266805/)

[Taltarzac725]

Speech by the President of the Republic before a joint session of Parliament - France in the United States / Embassy of France in Washington, D.C. (http://franceintheus.org/spip.php?article7185)

It is translated into English. Speech by the President of the Republic of France before a joint session of (...) - French Embassy in South Africa | Ambassade de France en Afrique du Sud (http://www.ambafrance-rsa.org/Speech-by-the-President-of-the-Republic-of-France-before-a-joint-session-of)

[graciegirl]

This has been a hellish week.


I hope for peace on earth to men (and women) of good will.


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