President of Paris closes all French borders without hesitation!!

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Within MINUTES of being appraised of what was happening.

Would anybody care to venture how long it would take for Obama to make such a decision?

My answer? He would not. He would be on television telling us he does not have enough information yet. But to not be concerned because he has the situation well in hand. There is no need to close the border because that would create an imposition on ANYBODY trying to get in or out of the country.....and that just would not be fair to those people.

Let us all pray that what is happening in Paris is not in the planning here in America.

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Within MINUTES of being appraised of what was happening.

Would anybody care to venture how long it would take for Obama to make such a decision?

My answer? He would not. He would be on television telling us he does not have enough information yet. But to not be concerned because he has the situation well in hand. There is no need to close the border because that would create an imposition on ANYBODY trying to get in or out of the country.....and that just would not be fair to those people.

Let us all pray that what is happening in Paris is not in the planning here in America.

Yep, ole Obama would be confused. No matter what happened, he would never even consider closing the border. And of course, he would blame it on a Youtube video and assure everyone that it was just workplace violence. Nothing to see here, move along now.

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Too little, too late. Of course it will happen here with this weak President we have. Hrs before the Paris attack, he said Isis was contained. What a joke.

Americans, unless you wake up and demand our borders are closed so we can must get control of the ones who are already here, this is the world you leave your kids and grandchildren. 2 + 2=4 folks. If you keep pretending and down playing this serious threat to our safety, your kids will pay the price.

Obama needs to get out. He can not lead, is weak and the world knows it. Peace only comes through strength as Reagan said

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Too little, too late. Of course it will happen here with this weak President we have. Hrs before the Paris attack, he said Isis was contained. What a joke.

Americans, unless you wake up and demand our borders are closed so we can must get control of the ones who are already here, this is the world you leave your kids and grandchildren. 2 + 2=4 folks. If you keep pretending and down playing this serious threat to our safety, your kids will pay the price.

Obama needs to get out. He can not lead, is weak and the world knows it. Peace only comes through strength as Reagan said

:agree:

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Within MINUTES of being appraised of what was happening.

Would anybody care to venture how long it would take for Obama to make such a decision?

My answer? He would not. He would be on television telling us he does not have enough information yet. But to not be concerned because he has the situation well in hand. There is no need to close the border because that would create an imposition on ANYBODY trying to get in or out of the country.....and that just would not be fair to those people.

Let us all pray that what is happening in Paris is not in the planning here in America.

When 9/11 happened, did George Bush close the borders? No, he did not.

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They can wait if they like until next November for the actual balloting, but Donald Trump was elected president tonight.

— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) November 14, 2015

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When 9/11 happened, did George Bush close the borders? No, he did not.

I guess your memory is not too keen. Bush grounded ALL airlines/planes and refused incoming traffic. I remember folks trying to get back from Europe that were delayed a few days because of this. Yes, he did close the borders, but go ahead and keep blaming Bush. Typical liberal response, unqualified and incorrect. But, just move on to the next verbal ambush.

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They can wait if they like until next November for the actual balloting, but Donald Trump was elected president tonight.

— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) November 14, 2015

Wrong thread. Wrong subject. Bait and switch?

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I guess your memory is not too keen. Bush grounded ALL airlines/planes and refused incoming traffic. I remember folks trying to get back from Europe that were delayed a few days because of this. Yes, he did close the borders, but go ahead and keep blaming Bush. Typical liberal response, unqualified and incorrect. But, just move on to the next verbal ambush.

Just remember you are posting and talking to folks who have only one thought and that is what the party gives them. Only one view of history and that is decided by the party.

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Just remember you are posting and talking to folks who have only one thought and that is what the party gives them. Only one view of history and that is decided by the party.

:agree:

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I guess your memory is not too keen. Bush grounded ALL airlines/planes and refused incoming traffic. I remember folks trying to get back from Europe that were delayed a few days because of this. Yes, he did close the borders, but go ahead and keep blaming Bush. Typical liberal response, unqualified and incorrect. But, just move on to the next verbal ambush.

Not blaming Bush for 9/11 at all. Just disputing your claim that he closed all borders. The northern and southern borders were not closed. Planes were grounded immediately for a few days - as they should have been.

Bush did an admirable job at that time.

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Just remember you are posting and talking to folks who have only one thought and that is what the party gives them. Only one view of history and that is decided by the party.

You don't think that what you are saying applies to both parties, and their followers? If you think that your comment applies to only one party, you are living in an alternative universe.

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Within MINUTES of being appraised of what was happening.

Would anybody care to venture how long it would take for Obama to make such a decision?

My answer? He would not. He would be on television telling us he does not have enough information yet. But to not be concerned because he has the situation well in hand. There is no need to close the border because that would create an imposition on ANYBODY trying to get in or out of the country.....and that just would not be fair to those people.

Let us all pray that what is happening in Paris is not in the planning here in America.

You are so quick to demean Obama that you compare apples to bagels. The Eurozone has open borders. You can travel between countries without a passport. Take a look at the numbers of countries that border France. We have two. One isn't a problem, and the other is being addressed slowly.

If you want to be taken seriously, maybe you should be serious.

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You don't think that what you are saying applies to both parties, and their followers? If you think that your comment applies to only one party, you are living in an alternative universe.

I have said many times on here that it runs both ways.

I also have said, even repeated it this morning, that the liberal/progressive/socialist is so much better at it. They control the mass media, not speaking strictly of the news networks, but the social media.

Heck, there are a number of websites around to support the 9/11 victim bill. Now, I support that bill, but there are so many website where you can get form letters to use wherever you want (we have on on this forum). They give money not just to candidates, but to causes (see the money given to Black Lives Matter); They have an innate ability to push more lenient voting rules.

All is not bad except, in that movement in my opinion it has become the norm instead of a supplement. Republican and conservatives are not in that class of of yet.

It is a compliment...just read this forum, then track down where folks get inaccurate information and you will see that the liberal/progressive/socialist movement are the driving force, to your point not the only one, but certainly the driving force on this medium.

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Might add that I pray that the Republican/conservatives never get that good at it....certainly do not use the same resources because it tends to drive people away from their principles and into the hands of the party

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You are so quick to demean Obama that you compare apples to bagels. The Eurozone has open borders. You can travel between countries without a passport. Take a look at the numbers of countries that border France. We have two. One isn't a problem, and the other is being addressed slowly.

If you want to be taken seriously, maybe you should be serious.

I am dealy serious. Too bad it does not align with your definition or interpretation.

You chose to focus on a specific to suit your agenda.
How about just accepting the Obama big picture....his incompetence; his inability to make a decision; his inability to risk a muslim negative conotation;

We understand the position you must adhere to that does not allow much lattitude!

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You are so quick to demean Obama that you compare apples to bagels. The Eurozone has open borders. You can travel between countries without a passport. Take a look at the numbers of countries that border France. We have two. One isn't a problem, and the other is being addressed slowly.

If you want to be taken seriously, maybe you should be serious.

We are so split by these freakin political parties.....

Bush closed the entrance to our country except by land from Mexico and or Canada, but if you read any history, security at those borders was unbelievable. He stopped any more access in the manner of the attack.

The French President closed his borders, and I am not sure if he grounded planes, but I do not think so. He closed them mainly to prevent escape, not entrance.

They both did the right thing, but our belief in party will not allow us to even discuss it intelligently..

One more point to keep in mind. France just allowed a bunch of refugees, but again, the borders were closed to keep people from leaving.

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Not blaming Bush for 9/11 at all. Just disputing your claim that he closed all borders. The northern and southern borders were not closed. Planes were grounded immediately for a few days - as they should have been.

Bush did an admirable job at that time.

At the time of 9/11 I lived along the NY State Border within 30 minutes of 4 official crossing Points which were all bridges .

Each of those bridges was shut-down within an hour of two of the attacks and remained so for at least 24 to 48 hours .

Following their reopening the amount of scrutiny at those bridges was extensive . What had been a very brief check by officials of both countries -- the US and Canada became extremely thorough .
In fact it is so even today . Where once your Drivers License was OK you now must have a Passport or an " Enhanced Drivers License [ NY State ] .

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At the time of 9/11 I lived along the NY State Border within 30 minutes of 4 official crossing Points which were all bridges .

Each of those bridges was shut-down within an hour of two of the attacks and remained so for at least 24 to 48 hours .

Following their reopening the amount of scrutiny at those bridges was extensive . What had been a very brief check by officials of both countries -- the US and Canada became extremely thorough .
In fact it is so even today . Where once your Drivers License was OK you now must have a Passport or an " Enhanced Drivers License [ NY State ] .

You are really messing up that revised history taught by the left wing websites.

You will confuse people, especially the Bush haters.

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I am dealy serious. Too bad it does not align with your definition or interpretation.

You chose to focus on a specific to suit your agenda.
How about just accepting the Obama big picture....his incompetence; his inability to make a decision; his inability to risk a muslim negative conotation;

We understand the position you must adhere to that does not allow much lattitude!

My agenda is for the Republicans on this board to get a grip of reality. Open your eyes. Take a look at the threads. Do you see any of them to even have a hint of moderation. Obama's incompetence as defined by who, the posters on this board, or the Republicans running for president! That's laughable.

Repeal and replace. Sure the decision was to throw out the empty words, and never back them up. Is that what qualifies as a decision by Republicans, or make Obama a one term president by opposing everything?

I am a moderate independent. I have all the room in the world. The far right Republicans can only do three things, criticize, condemn, and complain. They excel at all three categories. Unfortunately, none of the three are worth a damn unless you can back them up programs that help bring both sides together to actually get something thing.

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I have said many times on here that it runs both ways.

I also have said, even repeated it this morning, that the liberal/progressive/socialist is so much better at it. They control the mass media, not speaking strictly of the news networks, but the social media.

Heck, there are a number of websites around to support the 9/11 victim bill. Now, I support that bill, but there are so many website where you can get form letters to use wherever you want (we have on on this forum). They give money not just to candidates, but to causes (see the money given to Black Lives Matter); They have an innate ability to push more lenient voting rules.

All is not bad except, in that movement in my opinion it has become the norm instead of a supplement. Republican and conservatives are not in that class of of yet.

It is a compliment...just read this forum, then track down where folks get inaccurate information and you will see that the liberal/progressive/socialist movement are the driving force, to your point not the only one, but certainly the driving force on this medium.

The Democrats could control the social media, but does it do them any good? Isn't it the young crowd that inhabits the social media, and they as a rule don't vote in large numbers? I am just asking, because I don't go on social media sites. I am not sure what you would classify a social media sites.

Isn't Trump living on the social media? Given the amount of time that he is spending on mass media, and social media, I am surprised that the other candidates aren't asking for equal time.

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My agenda is for the Republicans on this board to get a grip of reality. Open your eyes. Take a look at the threads. Do you see any of them to even have a hint of moderation. Obama's incompetence as defined by who, the posters on this board, or the Republicans running for president! That's laughable.

Repeal and replace. Sure the decision was to throw out the empty words, and never back them up. Is that what qualifies as a decision by Republicans, or make Obama a one term president by opposing everything?

I am a moderate independent. I have all the room in the world. The far right Republicans can only do three things, criticize, condemn, and complain. They excel at all three categories. Unfortunately, none of the three are worth a damn unless you can back them up programs that help bring both sides together to actually get something thing.

Obama's incompetence as defined by: failed international relations and foreign policy, deteriorating race relations, a weak economy on the verge of another recession, the inability to work with congress, a scandal ridden administration, the inability to formulate even the most basic of military strategies, and on and on. A vote for Hillary (an Obama 3rd term) will be more of the same.

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My agenda is for the Republicans on this board to get a grip of reality. Open your eyes. Take a look at the threads. Do you see any of them to even have a hint of moderation. Obama's incompetence as defined by who, the posters on this board, or the Republicans running for president! That's laughable.

Repeal and replace. Sure the decision was to throw out the empty words, and never back them up. Is that what qualifies as a decision by Republicans, or make Obama a one term president by opposing everything?

I am a moderate independent. I have all the room in the world. The far right Republicans can only do three things, criticize, condemn, and complain. They excel at all three categories. Unfortunately, none of the three are worth a damn unless you can back them up programs that help bring both sides together to actually get something thing.

1. President Obama is the President. Inherent in that job is criticism, whether just or not. If you have been paying attention you might have noticed that, and frankly if you were paying attention to the Bush haters, it does not go away when you leave office.

2. Again, I know you hate everyone who is a Republican and anything related to the party, but things are not going so well. In the last 8 years, the average income has gone down; we are on the cusp of ACA going into effect, and with it a larger debt, more unemployment, and despite the impetus for ACA, health care costs are on the rise; terrorism, despite our being told otherwise is on the rise and not waning; we have had, and it seems will have more rioting in the streets; Republicans have all come forward as candidates with a tax plan, while the other party ignores that discussion; the President on immigration failed to keep his promise going in despite having both houses, and even failed to uphold US law at the borders to the south...his only immigration act was ruled unconstitutional because he bypassed those who make laws and he even supports protecting those who entered the country illegally by endorsing sanctuary cities.

To your point however, he has characterized the Republicans as terrorists, dummies, and a few other choice words, while in addition to ACA not even reaching. A 50% approval, he forced us into a treaty without support that will fuel the coffers of the terrorists; his actions have totally destroyed Libya, and put in great danger Israel. I was reminded yesterday how the French government wanted to get involved in Syria years ago when they were gassing children and guess who single handily stopped them....President Obama, after publicly drawing a red line. France will pay for that.

So you see, things are not going so well. He is the President and as one President said..the buck stops here.

I could go on, but no reason...you hate Republicans and feel all the above things were their fault, and that Obama has made zero errors..

Listen to the debate tonight and lisrpten as the "level playing field" is used over and over..,the free college, and on and on.

Listen and see if you hear helping business create jobs..nope all our problems are there.

When you run for President. Be careful...you might get elected.

I suggest to you, despite your condescending tone that I have a great sense of reality...I can see the problems because I wear no blinders supplied by either party.

Why you feel so much smarter...so much wiser than everyone amazes me, because you alone have twisted history to fit your needs so often it is not even remotely funny. You are not smarter than anyone else, you are not wiser, you do not have a better grip on reality than us poor dumb Republicans.

And the Republican Party is not the root of all evil despite what is in your head.

You float these hate posts about all things Republican when the candidate of the other party continues on her merry way. I can only assume from your disgust and hate for Republicans, that you support her yet never post why you support her.

You certainly, no matter your rhetoric, cannot support ANY Republican because after your words that would sure make you look foolish.

Only thing I can agree with is that ALL presidents get too much blame and too much credit. You folks who continually call everyone by a party label are the ones who have no grip on reality.

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The Democrats could control the social media, but does it do them any good? Isn't it the young crowd that inhabits the social media, and they as a rule don't vote in large numbers? I am just asking, because I don't go on social media sites. I am not sure what you would classify a social media sites.

Isn't Trump living on the social media? Given the amount of time that he is spending on mass media, and social media, I am surprised that the other candidates aren't asking for equal time.

I probably, well not probably, I WAS NOT clear. Sorry about that.

A good beginning would be to refer you to the thread title "Why have our Representatives Forgotten 9/11 Victims?"

I have no idea who really began that thread but I know this, it was begun as a result of a very aggressive movement to insure passage of the 9/11 survivor act. I happen to support that but if you read the links in there you will find a web of links to form letters, advice on who and how to contact, etc.

THAT is the kind of thing that the liberal/progressive/socialist movement is good at.

They had and still do such a strong data base on voter registration, voter turnout and the like. They have media outlets to watch other media outlets. This has been going on for some time but has been perfected in the last 10 years. This is one reason they do not want photo id for voting or anything for registration. They can get out the vote much easier without messing with that stuff.

Maybe media is not the right term, but they are really good at using the internet to move things in their direction. They can support movements like Black lives Matter and instantly make them a force.

That is what I meant and sorry wasnt clear !

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My agenda is for the Republicans on this board to get a grip of reality. Open your eyes. Take a look at the threads. Do you see any of them to even have a hint of moderation. Obama's incompetence as defined by who, the posters on this board, or the Republicans running for president! That's laughable.

Repeal and replace. Sure the decision was to throw out the empty words, and never back them up. Is that what qualifies as a decision by Republicans, or make Obama a one term president by opposing everything?

I am a moderate independent. I have all the room in the world. The far right Republicans can only do three things, criticize, condemn, and complain. They excel at all three categories. Unfortunately, none of the three are worth a damn unless you can back them up programs that help bring both sides together to actually get something thing.

For crying out loud, don't you liberals ever quit crying? Yes, this forum is primarily conservative. What did you think it would be when the majority of The Villages is Republican? The name of this website is Talk of The Villages. Did you get lost and find yourself here by accident?

Of course we give liberals are hard time. Why not, they are Anti-American and Pro-Socialism. They don't get respect because they endorse the biggest loser president in history and haven't learned their lesson. They are lazy and needy, and want everyone that does better than them to pay their way.

If you don't like conservative views, please do yourself a favor and go visit with the high school or college kid political forums. You should fit right in. Then you can plot your domestic terrorism and plan your protests, to see how you can disrupt the working class of the population.

We view liberals as spoiled and uninformed children. Prove us different. Socialism is old and does not work. So, don't try to kid people into thinking that you can slap a new name on it "progressive" and make it work in America. The world is better because of America's form of capitalism and form of semi-Free Enterprise.

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Remember that Republicans in Congress get only about a 12 percent approval rating.

You are LOSERS.

The net President will be Hillary Clinton. Her debate tonight will prove she knows the foreign policy experience needed to lead the country. Trump, Carson, and Farina have NO experience in actual foreign policy.

Voters in REAL America know this. REAL America means outside you 6 or 7 Republican TOTV posters in The Villages - but people who actually know how to think.

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Remember that Republicans in Congress get only about a 12 percent approval rating.

You are LOSERS.

The net President will be Hillary Clinton. Her debate tonight will prove she knows the foreign policy experience needed to lead the country. Trump, Carson, and Farina have NO experience in actual foreign policy.

Voters in REAL America know this. REAL America means outside you 6 or 7 Republican TOTV posters in The Villages - but people who actually know how to think.

I believe they have a couple of different options for medicating that fantasy problem you suffer.

What foreign policy experience did Obama have when he was elected?
Other than stealing/theft, what business/commerce/economic experience does Shrilary have? And right now, our economy and the national debt is more important that foreign policy. Of course, some military experience would help. The only military experience Shrilary has is fantasizing being shot at in Bosnia. But, she is good at blaming video for terrorist attacks, if that counts.
Sorry but, listening to her tonight will only make your ears bleed as she tells one lie after another lie. And I can tell when she is lying, because anytime she is upright and her eyes are open, she is either telling lies or thinking of another lie.
Any of the GOP candidates would make a better president than Shrilary. Shoot, the person that delivers my mail would be better, and I don't even know her. But, I would vote for the mail carrier over Shrilary right now.

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Remember that Republicans in Congress get only about a 12 percent approval rating.

You are LOSERS.

The net President will be Hillary Clinton. Her debate tonight will prove she knows the foreign policy experience needed to lead the country. Trump, Carson, and Farina have NO experience in actual foreign policy.

Voters in REAL America know this. REAL America means outside you 6 or 7 Republican TOTV posters in The Villages - but people who actually know how to think.

I apologize for being such a blatant sh..t. I am the real loser so please ignore this post.

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Remember that Republicans in Congress get only about a 12 percent approval rating.

You are LOSERS.

The net President will be Hillary Clinton. Her debate tonight will prove she knows the foreign policy experience needed to lead the country. Trump, Carson, and Farina have NO experience in actual foreign policy.

Voters in REAL America know this. REAL America means outside you 6 or 7 Republican TOTV posters in The Villages - but people who actually know how to think.

1. "Remember that Republicans in Congress get only about a 12 percent approval rating"

Explain please what the approval rating for Democrats in Congress is ??

2. You are LOSERS.

Are you speaking of a) posters who are Republicans b) ALL posters since you made that judgement, you are obviously above us all c) Republican party who controls mostly all the states, US Congress and House ?

3. The net President will be Hillary Clinton

I think you meant next with the x in the word.

4. Her debate tonight will prove she knows the foreign policy experience needed to lead the country.

She certainly will giggle her way through. I am doubting that any other Democrat will bring up her destruction of Libya, the mess in Yemen which was her call, and a few other things thus she may win the debate AGAINST OTHER DEMOCRATS. DUH....did you think other democrats would jump on foreign policy errors. Someone is a loser for sure.

5. Trump, Carson, and Farina have NO experience in actual foreign policy.

I realize you were being a smarta$$ with the spelling of Ms Fiorina but that is ok..that is what you do and you are good at it (be proud) But, tell us of all the experience that our current President had OR for that matter the other Democratic President before him....Clinton ? You know when you do not know what you are doing or saying, you are easily tripped up.


I just assume that your party demands you be loyal and tell us they are great examples of foreign policy. (Thinking France might disagree with you as Obama stopped them a few years ago when they wanted to ...oh, never mind here I am speaking with facts....sorry, forgot you do not deal with that well.

6. Voters in REAL America know this. REAL America means outside you 6 or 7 Republican TOTV posters in The Villages - but people who actually know how to think.

Gee....I was under the impression that The Villages WAS real America and I also was under the impression that real america does not like Ms Clinton very much as well as not trusting her at all.


Your statement about 6 or 7 Republican posters is a great example of who unaware you are. There are two Democrat posters on here criticizing your favorite candidate weekly or even more often. YOU are living in the past and in the little world your party has wrapped you in.

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Remember that Republicans in Congress get only about a 12 percent approval rating.

You are LOSERS.

The net President will be Hillary Clinton. Her debate tonight will prove she knows the foreign policy experience needed to lead the country. Trump, Carson, and Farina have NO experience in actual foreign policy.

Voters in REAL America know this. REAL America means outside you 6 or 7 Republican TOTV posters in The Villages - but people who actually know how to think.

If Clinton becomes the next president, say adios America!! She's just a continuation of Obama's liberal policies. Pray for your kids and grand kids that aren't at the wrong place at wrong time. Isis is coming for them

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1. President Obama is the President. Inherent in that job is criticism, whether just or not. If you have been paying attention you might have noticed that, and frankly if you were paying attention to the Bush haters, it does not go away when you leave office.

2. Again, I know you hate everyone who is a Republican and anything related to the party, but things are not going so well. In the last 8 years, the average income has gone down; we are on the cusp of ACA going into effect, and with it a larger debt, more unemployment, and despite the impetus for ACA, health care costs are on the rise; terrorism, despite our being told otherwise is on the rise and not waning; we have had, and it seems will have more rioting in the streets; Republicans have all come forward as candidates with a tax plan, while the other party ignores that discussion; the President on immigration failed to keep his promise going in despite having both houses, and even failed to uphold US law at the borders to the south...his only immigration act was ruled unconstitutional because he bypassed those who make laws and he even supports protecting those who entered the country illegally by endorsing sanctuary cities.

To your point however, he has characterized the Republicans as terrorists, dummies, and a few other choice words, while in addition to ACA not even reaching. A 50% approval, he forced us into a treaty without support that will fuel the coffers of the terrorists; his actions have totally destroyed Libya, and put in great danger Israel. I was reminded yesterday how the French government wanted to get involved in Syria years ago when they were gassing children and guess who single handily stopped them....President Obama, after publicly drawing a red line. France will pay for that.

So you see, things are not going so well. He is the President and as one President said..the buck stops here.

I could go on, but no reason...you hate Republicans and feel all the above things were their fault, and that Obama has made zero errors..

Listen to the debate tonight and lisrpten as the "level playing field" is used over and over..,the free college, and on and on.

Listen and see if you hear helping business create jobs..nope all our problems are there.

When you run for President. Be careful...you might get elected.

I suggest to you, despite your condescending tone that I have a great sense of reality...I can see the problems because I wear no blinders supplied by either party.

Why you feel so much smarter...so much wiser than everyone amazes me, because you alone have twisted history to fit your needs so often it is not even remotely funny. You are not smarter than anyone else, you are not wiser, you do not have a better grip on reality than us poor dumb Republicans.

And the Republican Party is not the root of all evil despite what is in your head.

You float these hate posts about all things Republican when the candidate of the other party continues on her merry way. I can only assume from your disgust and hate for Republicans, that you support her yet never post why you support her.

You certainly, no matter your rhetoric, cannot support ANY Republican because after your words that would sure make you look foolish.

Only thing I can agree with is that ALL presidents get too much blame and too much credit. You folks who continually call everyone by a party label are the ones who have no grip on reality.

If you think that I hate Republicans, you don't know squat. Is this the way you try to justify your comments by making everyone that doesn't agree with you 100% the enemy? The real world doesn't work that way. This board isn't the real world. So, you think that you can get away with it.

"W" didn't receive anywhere near the amount of criticism during his presidency that Obama is receiving. "W" didn't have to deal with a great recession right out of the blocks. If you want to compare one president to another, it is a waste of time. The conditions each president has to deal with aren't the same. So, they aren't dealing on a level playing field.

You lost me with the comment that the ACA is going to cause unemployment. It is not a given that companies that employ around 50 employees with layoff people to stay under the 50, so they will not have to provide health insurance for their employees. The number of companies that will be affected by the 50 employee is very small. If you haven't noticed health insurance companies have been raising their rates above the rate of inflation for the past 35+ years. What we use to receive from our employers also aren't offer in normal companies anymore. They are too expensive. They are Cadillac plans. I dealt with health insurance companies for 35+ years once a year on renewal date, and hated every minute of it. If you think that insurance rates weren't going to rise with or without ACA, you are dreaming.

Have you looked at the Republican tax plans. They all have been vetted, and all of them are going to add 2+ trillion dollars to the debt over a ten year period. They are all based on a false assumption. If you decrease taxes, the economy will do better, because people have more money to spend. The trickle down nonsense. Has that ever worked? The majority of the tax cuts are going to people that don't need them. They are going to invest money. A good portion of it will probably be in overseas companies, that is where the growth is, and the money will stay in overseas banks to avoid paying taxes. Do I know this for a fact? No, but how many trillion of dollars are sitting in overseas banks to avoid paying taxes. So, it is a good bet that that will be the case.

I support Hillary. Where in the name of God's creation did you get that idea? Never once did I say that I support any of the Democrats running for president. I am going to vote in the primaries for John Kasich. If you don't believe that, that is your problem, and not mine. Speaking of John Kasich, why hasn't anyone here ever said what their objection to Kasich is? Is he to reasonable a person for you?

Am are smarter than people here? That may not be the case, but I can guarantee you that I am a lot more reasonable. Anyone that doesn't agree with you 100% of the time is a liberal/socialist/communist. That is total nonsense.

What was the Republicans response to Obama's Syria policy three plus years ago, when Obama drew the red line? They didn't have one. They wanted Obama to come to them to approve any act of war against another country. He did that, and they didn't do a damn thing. They didn't want to put their approval on anything that had to do with Syria, so they could complain later. Syria was a no win situation from day one. What is the Republican's policy toward Syria right now? The middle east is a total disaster, and both parties are to blame. Most of the blame should go to the Muslim's in the middle east. They all hate each other.

Obama's executive action on immigration will be decided at the Supreme Court. The ruling against him were in federal courts in Republican control states with the majority of the judges being Republicans. That is why the 26 states challenging the executive action was filed in Texas, and Louisiana.

How did we get to the situation where now everything is based upon political affiliation? How can that be good?

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If you think that I hate Republicans, you don't know squat. Is this the way you try to justify your comments by making everyone that doesn't agree with you 100% the enemy? The real world doesn't work that way. This board isn't the real world. So, you think that you can get away with it.

"W" didn't receive anywhere near the amount of criticism during his presidency that Obama is receiving. "W" didn't have to deal with a great recession right out of the blocks. If you want to compare one president to another, it is a waste of time. The conditions each president has to deal with aren't the same. So, they aren't dealing on a level playing field.

You lost me with the comment that the ACA is going to cause unemployment. It is not a given that companies that employ around 50 employees with layoff people to stay under the 50, so they will not have to provide health insurance for their employees. The number of companies that will be affected by the 50 employee is very small. If you haven't noticed health insurance companies have been raising their rates above the rate of inflation for the past 35+ years. What we use to receive from our employers also aren't offer in normal companies anymore. They are too expensive. They are Cadillac plans. I dealt with health insurance companies for 35+ years once a year on renewal date, and hated every minute of it. If you think that insurance rates weren't going to rise with or without ACA, you are dreaming.

Have you looked at the Republican tax plans. They all have been vetted, and all of them are going to add 2+ trillion dollars to the debt over a ten year period. They are all based on a false assumption. If you decrease taxes, the economy will do better, because people have more money to spend. The trickle down nonsense. Has that ever worked? The majority of the tax cuts are going to people that don't need them. They are going to invest money. A good portion of it will probably be in overseas companies, that is where the growth is, and the money will stay in overseas banks to avoid paying taxes. Do I know this for a fact? No, but how many trillion of dollars are sitting in overseas banks to avoid paying taxes. So, it is a good bet that that will be the case.

I support Hillary. Where in the name of God's creation did you get that idea? Never once did I say that I support any of the Democrats running for president. I am going to vote in the primaries for John Kasich. If you don't believe that, that is your problem, and not mine. Speaking of John Kasich, why hasn't anyone here ever said what their objection to Kasich is? Is he to reasonable a person for you?

Am are smarter than people here? That may not be the case, but I can guarantee you that I am a lot more reasonable. Anyone that doesn't agree with you 100% of the time is a liberal/socialist/communist. That is total nonsense.

What was the Republicans response to Obama's Syria policy three plus years ago, when Obama drew the red line? They didn't have one. They wanted Obama to come to them to approve any act of war against another country. He did that, and they didn't do a damn thing. They didn't want to put their approval on anything that had to do with Syria, so they could complain later. Syria was a no win situation from day one. What is the Republican's policy toward Syria right now? The middle east is a total disaster, and both parties are to blame. Most of the blame should go to the Muslim's in the middle east. They all hate each other.

Obama's executive action on immigration will be decided at the Supreme Court. The ruling against him were in federal courts in Republican control states with the majority of the judges being Republicans. That is why the 26 states challenging the executive action was filed in Texas, and Louisiana.

How did we get to the situation where now everything is based upon political affiliation? How can that be good?

:thumbup:

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If you think that I hate Republicans, you don't know squat. Is this the way you try to justify your comments by making everyone that doesn't agree with you 100% the enemy? The real world doesn't work that way. This board isn't the real world. So, you think that you can get away with it.

"W" didn't receive anywhere near the amount of criticism during his presidency that Obama is receiving. "W" didn't have to deal with a great recession right out of the blocks. If you want to compare one president to another, it is a waste of time. The conditions each president has to deal with aren't the same. So, they aren't dealing on a level playing field.

You lost me with the comment that the ACA is going to cause unemployment. It is not a given that companies that employ around 50 employees with layoff people to stay under the 50, so they will not have to provide health insurance for their employees. The number of companies that will be affected by the 50 employee is very small. If you haven't noticed health insurance companies have been raising their rates above the rate of inflation for the past 35+ years. What we use to receive from our employers also aren't offer in normal companies anymore. They are too expensive. They are Cadillac plans. I dealt with health insurance companies for 35+ years once a year on renewal date, and hated every minute of it. If you think that insurance rates weren't going to rise with or without ACA, you are dreaming.

Have you looked at the Republican tax plans. They all have been vetted, and all of them are going to add 2+ trillion dollars to the debt over a ten year period. They are all based on a false assumption. If you decrease taxes, the economy will do better, because people have more money to spend. The trickle down nonsense. Has that ever worked? The majority of the tax cuts are going to people that don't need them. They are going to invest money. A good portion of it will probably be in overseas companies, that is where the growth is, and the money will stay in overseas banks to avoid paying taxes. Do I know this for a fact? No, but how many trillion of dollars are sitting in overseas banks to avoid paying taxes. So, it is a good bet that that will be the case.

I support Hillary. Where in the name of God's creation did you get that idea? Never once did I say that I support any of the Democrats running for president. I am going to vote in the primaries for John Kasich. If you don't believe that, that is your problem, and not mine. Speaking of John Kasich, why hasn't anyone here ever said what their objection to Kasich is? Is he to reasonable a person for you?

Am are smarter than people here? That may not be the case, but I can guarantee you that I am a lot more reasonable. Anyone that doesn't agree with you 100% of the time is a liberal/socialist/communist. That is total nonsense.

What was the Republicans response to Obama's Syria policy three plus years ago, when Obama drew the red line? They didn't have one. They wanted Obama to come to them to approve any act of war against another country. He did that, and they didn't do a damn thing. They didn't want to put their approval on anything that had to do with Syria, so they could complain later. Syria was a no win situation from day one. What is the Republican's policy toward Syria right now? The middle east is a total disaster, and both parties are to blame. Most of the blame should go to the Muslim's in the middle east. They all hate each other.

Obama's executive action on immigration will be decided at the Supreme Court. The ruling against him were in federal courts in Republican control states with the majority of the judges being Republicans. That is why the 26 states challenging the executive action was filed in Texas, and Louisiana.

How did we get to the situation where now everything is based upon political affiliation? How can that be good?

You pretty much do nothing but bash Republicans YET you say you support a Republican in the primaries !!

You pretty much do nothing but bash Republicans YET you say it is not good that everything is based on political affliation.

I just want to say this to you.

Almost 100% of your long posts are a rehash of things where you support Obama. Fine, you have that right. Most prefer to talk about current events and yes the President gets bashed. He is the President...he makes the calls...that is life I am afraid.

Would prefer if you spent more time discussing up to date issues, like...

.....the terrorist attack in France
.....the ISIS threat to the world and our country
.....the influx of Syrian refugees
.....the debate on the decline in wages in the US
.....various tax plans put forth by the candidates


Many more but try to do it without right out of the gate, saying how stupid Republicans are and how everything is their fault. If you feel that way I suggest you move on somewhere else.

Also, President Obama is the President. Anyone who is unhappy with the world or our country will criticize the President. He is a big boy and does not need your defense by saying the Republicans made him do it.

Talk to the issue, give your reasons why you are for or against, etc. Yep, you will hear criticisms of the President and if you can or want to defend him, fine but do it with HONEST history that is really relevant.

Your posts get tiring as they pretty much are all the very very same thing over and over and over. Whatever is wrong was and is the fault of the Republicans.

Will use one example and the rest is up to you. I mentioned to you once before that all the tax proposals are talk for the campaign. Even your idol, President Obama did that...ie., made promises in the primary he knew would never happen. If you have not been around politics to know not to over state campaign promises in a primary, you surely should not be on here.

Those tax proposals being made, I hope you know, cannot be done by any one President...you do know that, right ? They are responding to the media and they are all fair game but you take them as gospel. Heck Sanders has none and Clinton's has changed two or three times THIS YEAR.

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Ah, yes -

The TOTV Political forum IS the real America. Nope, guess again. This is a reactionary wing about 5 or 6 of fruit cakes that get their jollies by putting down those who remember how to think.

Well, have your caregiver put on a clean Depends on you and learn how Hillary will be your next President on the debate tonight

:1rotfl:

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Ah, yes -

The TOTV Political forum IS the real America. Nope, guess again. This is a reactionary wing about 5 or 6 of fruit cakes that get their jollies by putting down those who remember how to think.

Well, have your caregiver put on a clean Depends on you and learn how Hillary will be your next President on the debate tonight

:1rotfl:

The intelligence quotient in here is overwhelming as illustrated by another topical post.

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Ah, yes -

The TOTV Political forum IS the real America. Nope, guess again. This is a reactionary wing about 5 or 6 of fruit cakes that get their jollies by putting down those who remember how to think.

Well, have your caregiver put on a clean Depends on you and learn how Hillary will be your next President on the debate tonight

:1rotfl:

Never tire of being the perfect * * * hole!

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Ah, yes -

The TOTV Political forum IS the real America. Nope, guess again. This is a reactionary wing about 5 or 6 of fruit cakes that get their jollies by putting down those who remember how to think.

Well, have your caregiver put on a clean Depends on you and learn how Hillary will be your next President on the debate tonight

I apologize for another stupid post. Just ignore me, as being a liberal is on the ignorance scale of about a snail.

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Ah, yes -

The TOTV Political forum IS the real America. Nope, guess again. This is a reactionary wing about 5 or 6 of fruit cakes that get their jollies by putting down those who remember how to think.

Well, have your caregiver put on a clean Depends on you and learn how Hillary will be your next President on the debate tonight

I apologize for another stupid post. Just ignore me, as being a liberal is on the ignorance scale of about a snail.

Please look in the mirror and observe the only person who thinks the ongoing diaharetic catharsis is the least bit funny.

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You pretty much do nothing but bash Republicans YET you say you support a Republican in the primaries !!

You pretty much do nothing but bash Republicans YET you say it is not good that everything is based on political affliation.

I just want to say this to you.

Almost 100% of your long posts are a rehash of things where you support Obama. Fine, you have that right. Most prefer to talk about current events and yes the President gets bashed. He is the President...he makes the calls...that is life I am afraid.

Would prefer if you spent more time discussing up to date issues, like...

.....the terrorist attack in France
.....the ISIS threat to the world and our country
.....the influx of Syrian refugees
.....the debate on the decline in wages in the US
.....various tax plans put forth by the candidates


Many more but try to do it without right out of the gate, saying how stupid Republicans are and how everything is their fault. If you feel that way I suggest you move on somewhere else.

Also, President Obama is the President. Anyone who is unhappy with the world or our country will criticize the President. He is a big boy and does not need your defense by saying the Republicans made him do it.

Talk to the issue, give your reasons why you are for or against, etc. Yep, you will hear criticisms of the President and if you can or want to defend him, fine but do it with HONEST history that is really relevant.

Your posts get tiring as they pretty much are all the very very same thing over and over and over. Whatever is wrong was and is the fault of the Republicans.

Will use one example and the rest is up to you. I mentioned to you once before that all the tax proposals are talk for the campaign. Even your idol, President Obama did that...ie., made promises in the primary he knew would never happen. If you have not been around politics to know not to over state campaign promises in a primary, you surely should not be on here.

Those tax proposals being made, I hope you know, cannot be done by any one President...you do know that, right ? They are responding to the media and they are all fair game but you take them as gospel. Heck Sanders has none and Clinton's has changed two or three times THIS YEAR.

Why don't you start talking to the Republicans on this board about threads that they start and the tone that they use? You can start with the thread on the attack in France. If you do, you will get the same tag that I have received, a liberal Democrat. Where do you get the impression that these people want a serious discussion? If they do, it is very well hidden. Name calling here is the name of the game.

You put forward five things that should be discussed here. Why don't you start a thread on any one of them, and see how quick it dies?

You must think that I have a very short memory. This is a comment that you made about tax plans, "Republicans have all put forward tax plans, while the other party ignores the discussion." This gives the impression that they are serious about tax reform.

Above you give the impression that tax plans are just meaningless talk given during political campaign that don't have a chance to be implemented. Shouldn't the Democrat candidates be praised for not starting meaningless talk on tax reform? It seems that you are trying to have it both ways.

I defend Obama. I will accept that. Now, you tell me one good thing that any Republican has said about Obama. When all you do is criticize someone for everything that he does all the time, if someone doesn't agree with you, they can either shut up, or try to bring you back to some semblance of reality. Maybe the attacks on Obama all the time are tiring!

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Why don't you start talking to the Republicans on this board about threads that they start and the tone that they use? You can start with the thread on the attack in France. If you do, you will get the same tag that I have received, a liberal Democrat. Where do you get the impression that these people want a serious discussion? If they do, it is very well hidden. Name calling here is the name of the game.

You put forward five things that should be discussed here. Why don't you start a thread on any one of them, and see how quick it dies?

You must think that I have a very short memory. This is a comment that you made about tax plans, "Republicans have all put forward tax plans, while the other party ignores the discussion." This gives the impression that they are serious about tax reform.

Above you give the impression that tax plans are just meaningless talk given during political campaign that don't have a chance to be implemented. Shouldn't the Democrat candidates be praised for not starting meaningless talk on tax reform? It seems that you are trying to have it both ways.

I defend Obama. I will accept that. Now, you tell me one good thing that any Republican has said about Obama. When all you do is criticize someone for everything that he does all the time, if someone doesn't agree with you, they can either shut up, or try to bring you back to some semblance of reality. Maybe the attacks on Obama all the time are tiring!

1. Very very few liberal/democrats post on here who want to actually engage in conversation and discussion. Used to before the exact same people who brought down the original political forum continued their attacks on here.

2. The liberal/progressive/socialist group is represented on here by uninformed, immature, smart a$$ posters. If it were not that way, you would find people, myself included upset with non factual attacks on anyone, but as it is, that is who represents that side and the other intelligent folks from that side choose not to post. AND KEEP IN MIND they used to post back on the original forum and they are still here, but unlike stupid me, they got smart and just left. Lots of smart, quick, informed liberals in The Villages. The have great thoughts, are not simply Democrats, and never use the revisionist history put out on the internet.

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Why don't you start talking to the Republicans on this board about threads that they start and the tone that they use? You can start with the thread on the attack in France. If you do, you will get the same tag that I have received, a liberal Democrat. Where do you get the impression that these people want a serious discussion? If they do, it is very well hidden. Name calling here is the name of the game.

You put forward five things that should be discussed here. Why don't you start a thread on any one of them, and see how quick it dies?

You must think that I have a very short memory. This is a comment that you made about tax plans, "Republicans have all put forward tax plans, while the other party ignores the discussion." This gives the impression that they are serious about tax reform.

Above you give the impression that tax plans are just meaningless talk given during political campaign that don't have a chance to be implemented. Shouldn't the Democrat candidates be praised for not starting meaningless talk on tax reform? It seems that you are trying to have it both ways.

I defend Obama. I will accept that. Now, you tell me one good thing that any Republican has said about Obama. When all you do is criticize someone for everything that he does all the time, if someone doesn't agree with you, they can either shut up, or try to bring you back to some semblance of reality. Maybe the attacks on Obama all the time are tiring!

They most certainly are. And one would think at some point in time he would either do something presidential that does not benefit just him or his agenda

OR

stop doing all the stupid, non value added, race baiting and muslim protector things he does every single day and sometimes more often.....providing ample opportunity for criticism.

When some of you supporters have a minute instead of changing the subject or creating new names to call others....enlighten us as to why you think he is worthy of your support. And him being a democrat is not acceptable (hopefully this does not stop some cold!).

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I might add that anytime an issue driven thread is begun on here, execpt for the smart a$$ comments from the left, they are SILENT AND UNHEARD on the issue. They only posts you read from them about current issues is a rehash of G W Bush.

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I might add that anytime an issue driven thread is begun on here, execpt for the smart a$$ comments from the left, they are SILENT AND UNHEARD on the issue. They only posts you read from them about current issues is a rehash of G W Bush.

Look back at the OP. It stated that the Pres. of France closed all borders immediately after the Paris attacks. Okay, that was fact and was the issue.

The OP then began to rant about what he BELIEVED that Pres. Obama would do in the US. All posters after that just continued on with the ranting.

You want to talk about the facts, great - do it. However, don't speculate on what you think the President you despise would do.

The only posts from conservatives on this thread have been bashing ones and did not lend any credence to what France's president did - which was the proper thing to do.

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Some of us use as the basis for comments are what Obama says or does. After 7 years of observed behavior there are no surprises from this POTUS.

He has been consistent from day one. It is all about him. It is all about racism and rekindling it in America. It is all about not acknowledging the muslim influence of bad things happening in the world. It is always about not taking a position on anything, even when confronted with an overwhelming opposition by those of us he claims to support and protect. He does not follow through on anything he says. And he lies.

So there are no surprises ever. And he deserves what he gets.

Tell us why you are such a strong supporter of Obama and we already know the first one....he is a democrat.

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Look back at the OP. It stated that the Pres. of France closed all borders immediately after the Paris attacks. Okay, that was fact and was the issue.

The OP then began to rant about what he BELIEVED that Pres. Obama would do in the US. All posters after that just continued on with the ranting.

You want to talk about the facts, great - do it. However, don't speculate on what you think the President you despise would do.

The only posts from conservatives on this thread have been bashing ones and did not lend any credence to what France's president did - which was the proper thing to do.

With all due respect, you are incorrect. The OP was not an announcement of the news but a criticism of President Obama and what he might have done.

WHAT I will disagree also with is that the following posts were all that. If you look at Post 5, where the name of GW Bush was evoked INCORRECTLY I might add. Look at post 20, which really opened the door. In Post 20, the poster outlined HIS agenda for all Republicans on this board. He then refered to all Republicans as having nothing but empty words.

That was replied to and in POST 26, all Repubicans were referred to as LOSERS.

Listen, I said it in an earlier post, I would join anyone in criticizing those on the conservative side for blaming Obama without facts, but I can tell you and ask you to please check almost 100%...maybe 98% of posts made by liberals are NOT a defense of the current President on any level except to attack the poster who criticized (NEVER a link....NEVER a fact unless it has to do with GW Bush)

Never do we see a defense of his foreign policy, or his economic policy, or his manner of speaking and demeaning his opponents. We get posters who simply say nobody should be criticizing the President. If there were discussions, that is one thing, but please read the thread and count the one liners...the smart a@@ cracks.

Actually, I have been criticized for a number of things...which amazes me. I supposedly have no touch with reality....I supposedly use too many links and cut and paste from those links (seems that they are exact opposites unless reading and staying informed somehow dismisses me from reality)

Look.....President Obama is the President. If his policies do not work, guess what...he will be criticized. In what world of reality does ANY President get a free pass for what he does or says ?

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Let's see; this is a forum called Talk of the Villages, which seems to consist of Villagers. So, since the majority of The Villages is Republican/Conservative, why would an outsider, liberal come on here and start crying about all the conservative bias? Beats the heck out of me how they think....if they do. So, when a liberal comes on here and runs his smart as... mouth, does he think that he will be applauded? Trouble is that he doesn't even converse in a civil manner, let alone with any facts pertaining to the thread.

So liberals, if you happened to wander into this forum and you are from Baltimore, or Orlando, or D.C. or any other liberal city, let me give you a tip. Find a high school, college or liberal TV blog to settle into where you can feel more at home. Some of us older folks won't cut you any slack. Since we are retired, we no longer have to be PC to keep our jobs.

So, to summarize quit crying. It's unbecoming and girly.

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Let's see; this is a forum called Talk of the Villages, which seems to consist of Villagers. So, since the majority of The Villages is Republican/Conservative, why would an outsider, liberal come on here and start crying about all the conservative bias? Beats the heck out of me how they think....if they do. So, when a liberal comes on here and runs his smart as... mouth, does he think that he will be applauded? Trouble is that he doesn't even converse in a civil manner, let alone with any facts pertaining to the thread.

So liberals, if you happened to wander into this forum and you are from Baltimore, or Orlando, or D.C. or any other liberal city, let me give you a tip. Find a high school, college or liberal TV blog to settle into where you can feel more at home. Some of us older folks won't cut you any slack. Since we are retired, we no longer have to be PC to keep our jobs.

So, to summarize quit crying. It's unbecoming and girly.

Let me take some time and defend any liberals who wish to post here and get involved in conversation.

I NEVER EVER want liberals to stay away from this forum. EVER.

This forum should be for an exchange of ideas and observations on current events. To only hear one side is simply a waste of time and silly. I INVITE ANY AND ALL LIBERALS TO VISIT HERE AND POST.


Having said that....as I have said many times. There are some wise, smart, well read, aware liberals in The Villages. We had them on the old political forum for a short while. They offered alternate ways of looking at things and I, for one learned from them. We had one guy who had great expertise in economics and I learned quite a bit from him, although in general we did not agree on political philosophy.

Being aware and being smart and knowing what is going on requires us to hear both sides of everything. While the internet gives us a lot of crap on many if not most sites, the advantage is you can investigate and read newspapers and such from all over the world.

Some do not choose to do that. I enjoy learning and I enjoy being aware of what is happening. I guess I get a bit annoyed and shouldn't at those who post and just do not know the facts. I am not smarter than other posters and factually can tell you I am dumber than most. BUT, on my behalf like the little guy on the football team, I put in the work.

PLEASE LIBERALS DO POST...DO SHARE IDEAS...DO BE A PART OF THIS FORUM....DO DISAGREE AND GIVE US YOUR VIEWPOINT.

THOSE WHO FOR THE MOST PART ARE REPRESENTING YOU, SIMPLY POLLUTE THIS BOARD WITH SMART ALECK IMMATURE POSTS INSTEAD OF PUTTING IN THE WORK AND KNOWING WHAT IS GOING ON.

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I got a phone call and was told to check out another website that supposedly
'serves" The Villages. This is from a poster named John who professes to live among us and read and post on here.

Is this how liberals view TOTV and The Villages developer, etc ????? Is this the representation of any liberals.....

This is his post....from today...

"Totv is a small, self selected, group of political extremists, mainly **********. They openly espouse their racism and bigoted views. If a person is poor, they are lazy. If a person is a democrat they are sucking at the teats of a poor, abused, republican. This small forum is comprised of the most disgusting human individuals I've ever seen, including those I've met in foreign wars. I can't stand them or their tea party loving ideals. The fact they are given a public forum is just beyond my comprehension, but based on the political views of the developer and his minions, I understand how it is allowed to permeate the net. They are a sad representation of the villages!

i was not going to supply a link but I think it needs to be done...

TOTV Love Fest Going On Now--- Here's the Team - Discussion on Topix (http://www.topix.com/forum/city/the-villages-fl/TP79GP1HHUQM6QVLK)

I may be talkative....I may be opinionated....I may be stubborn, but Lord do not allow my heart to ever ever go this black and dead.

If this is how our posters that are liberal feel, then we conservatives must take our leave and allow their hate to take over. I can discuss and debate, but comparing hate is not something I want to be involved in.

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When 9/11 happened, did George Bush close the borders? No, he did not.

14+ years ago the boarder issue was not a bleak as it is today. Obama does not care who he lets into the USA as long as they are potential voters.

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I'm sorry but I am not going to sympathize with liberals when they are lead by the divisive, racist Obama. They can come on here and cry all they want and be the victim, if they wish. It's time that they realize that there is a world out there that will not always coddle them. Sorry, but if you are looking for PC, then don't come on here with bad manners.

If liberals wish to discuss issues on here, it's not my website so go for it. But, don't cry about not being understood or respected when you come on here spouting things that the majority of posters on here find totally against their ideology.

You see, this is one of those places where the minority does not get coddled. We express our views whether it offends you or not. You have a choice of participating or moving on to another forum. Personally, I am interested in hearing the other side of the issue, but not if the opposing position results in a tantrum.

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Let's see; this is a forum called Talk of the Villages, which seems to consist of Villagers. So, since the majority of The Villages is Republican/Conservative, why would an outsider, liberal come on here and start crying about all the conservative bias? Beats the heck out of me how they think....if they do. So, when a liberal comes on here and runs his smart as... mouth, does he think that he will be applauded? Trouble is that he doesn't even converse in a civil manner, let alone with any facts pertaining to the thread.

So liberals, if you happened to wander into this forum and you are from Baltimore, or Orlando, or D.C. or any other liberal city, let me give you a tip. Find a high school, college or liberal TV blog to settle into where you can feel more at home. Some of us older folks won't cut you any slack. Since we are retired, we no longer have to be PC to keep our jobs.

So, to summarize quit crying. It's unbecoming and girly.
Orlando is a liberal city? Where are you from, Mayberry?

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Orlando is a liberal city? Where are you from, Mayberry?

Define liberal? Define conservative? Define socialist? Define traditionalist? Define collectivism? Define individualism?

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As Chris "tingle down my leg" Mathews said, "tell me the difference between Democrat and Socialist."

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When 9/11 happened, did George Bush close the borders? No, he did not.
Bush, who liked to quote Reagan, was the man who decided he would save the middle east and got us into it. You break it, you bought it and get all the headaches that come along with it.

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Yes, the look on his face as he was told what had just happened in NY and he continued to read to the kindergarden class. The first black president should have been Colin Powell, but they even managed to screw that up and throw him under the bus.

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Bush responded to what America was screaming for, vengeance. Terrorists brought their war to us, and we responded. Congress, including Hilary and Kerry voted for the invasion. And yes, Bush did respond immediately by shutting down all air travel and secured the borders. Maybe some do not remember 9/11 but I remember exactly what I was doing at the time it happened.
Bush did get us into a war, and Obama being the pacifist he is, only wanted to chicken out of it and leave it unfinished. Being a weak "lead from behind" administrator, has emboldened terrorists to think they can bully the world. But, once we have a leader in the White House, terrorists will suddenly realize that not all Americans are as weak as a small minority of cowardly politicians.
If we had a Bush-like leader in the White House, I doubt there would have been an attack on France. Just my opinion. Terrorists are dedicated cowards. They will bully unarmed citizens and blow themselves up, but they are still cowards. They won't fight on an equal basis. And they know that America is leaderless right now and unable to organize and lead the world against them. That will change in a year, when we elect a stronger (Republican) president.

Our military trains to fight a war, not rebuild countries. We have warriors not peace corps volunteers in our military. Unleash them and allow them to do what they are experts at and the middle East will either toe the line or die. This is not the time for a weak leader. Another reason we don't want to elect Sanders, Hilary or Ran Paul.

And remember that in war there will be collateral damage; citizens killed. It's not something that we want to do, but sometimes necessary to achieve a resolution to the conflict. We dropped two big ones on Japan and won the war. Better to have collateral damage overseas than to have twin towers here.

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Within MINUTES of being appraised of what was happening.

Would anybody care to venture how long it would take for Obama to make such a decision?

My answer? He would not. He would be on television telling us he does not have enough information yet. But to not be concerned because he has the situation well in hand. There is no need to close the border because that would create an imposition on ANYBODY trying to get in or out of the country.....and that just would not be fair to those people.

Let us all pray that what is happening in Paris is not in the planning here in America. Obama wouldn't close borders even to just ease our minds a little, even if he only had to close them temporarily. What's wrong with the Dem. voters? Didn't this Paris disaster mean anything to you & you think this will never happen here? How loud will you Dem. scream if one of your family members gets shot in the head or have a bomb go off right next to you child or grandchild. Obama is just showing his true colors & I don't mean the color of his skin!

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With all due respect, you are incorrect. The OP was not an announcement of the news but a criticism of President Obama and what he might have done.

WHAT I will disagree also with is that the following posts were all that. If you look at Post 5, where the name of GW Bush was evoked INCORRECTLY I might add. Look at post 20, which really opened the door. In Post 20, the poster outlined HIS agenda for all Republicans on this board. He then refered to all Republicans as having nothing but empty words.

That was replied to and in POST 26, all Repubicans were referred to as LOSERS.

Listen, I said it in an earlier post, I would join anyone in criticizing those on the conservative side for blaming Obama without facts, but I can tell you and ask you to please check almost 100%...maybe 98% of posts made by liberals are NOT a defense of the current President on any level except to attack the poster who criticized (NEVER a link....NEVER a fact unless it has to do with GW Bush)

Never do we see a defense of his foreign policy, or his economic policy, or his manner of speaking and demeaning his opponents. We get posters who simply say nobody should be criticizing the President. If there were discussions, that is one thing, but please read the thread and count the one liners...the smart a@@ cracks.

Actually, I have been criticized for a number of things...which amazes me. I supposedly have no touch with reality....I supposedly use too many links and cut and paste from those links (seems that they are exact opposites unless reading and staying informed somehow dismisses me from reality)

Look.....President Obama is the President. If his policies do not work, guess what...he will be criticized. In what world of reality does ANY President get a free pass for what he does or says ?

With all due respect, I asked you to start a post on the five areas you would like discussed. Did you? Have you ever criticized any of the Republican wiseass cracks made on this board? You just accept them as fact. Whether you want to hear it or not you are driving down a lovely one way street. My post number 20 was an attempt to bring Republicans back to reality. You consider that a bad thing.

Obama's policies are criticized no matter what they are. You have turned a blind eye to that, but have no problem calling Democratic/Independent posters that response to unfounded things that Obama would do. Not did, but would do!

When I defend Obama and his policies, you call my posts tiring. There are only two of us Democratic/Independent on this board that I can see. There may be more. Your post that 100% or maybe 98% are not a defense of Obama, but an attack on posters is a down right lie. I guess you just off your royal white charger, and jumped in the gutter with a hellva of other posters on this board. I am sure they will welcome you with open arms.

Did I just attack you? You damn right I did. Maybe I just tried to support your statement about the 100% or 98%. I think that would require about another 1,000 posts like this to get somewhere near the 98%. Ignore the entire post, and underline one line in it, and attack that line. That seems to be the name of the game here.

Once upon a time before the internet, we were told if you were angry write a letter and get your anger off your chest, but don't mail the letter. Too bad we can't get back to the good old days, and that includes me. I have tried several times, but have failed big time.

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With all due respect, I asked you to start a post on the five areas you would like discussed. Did you? Have you ever criticized any of the Republican wiseass cracks made on this board? You just accept them as fact. Whether you want to hear it or not you are driving down a lovely one way street. My post number 20 was an attempt to bring Republicans back to reality. You consider that a bad thing.

Obama's policies are criticized no matter what they are. You have turned a blind eye to that, but have no problem calling Democratic/Independent posters that response to unfounded things that Obama would do. Not did, but would do!

When I defend Obama and his policies, you call my posts tiring. There are only two of us Democratic/Independent on this board that I can see. There may be more. Your post that 100% or maybe 98% are not a defense of Obama, but an attack on posters is a down right lie. I guess you just off your royal white charger, and jumped in the gutter with a hellva of other posters on this board. I am sure they will welcome you with open arms.

Did I just attack you? You damn right I did. Maybe I just tried to support your statement about the 100% or 98%. I think that would require about another 1,000 posts like this to get somewhere near the 98%. Ignore the entire post, and underline one line in it, and attack that line. That seems to be the name of the game here.

Once upon a time before the internet, we were told if you were angry write a letter and get your anger off your chest, but don't mail the letter. Too bad we can't get back to the good old days, and that includes me. I have tried several times, but have failed big time.

Wishing you great luck with your endeavors !!

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With all due respect, I asked you to start a post on the five areas you would like discussed. Did you? Have you ever criticized any of the Republican wiseass cracks made on this board? You just accept them as fact. Whether you want to hear it or not you are driving down a lovely one way street. My post number 20 was an attempt to bring Republicans back to reality. You consider that a bad thing.

Obama's policies are criticized no matter what they are. You have turned a blind eye to that, but have no problem calling Democratic/Independent posters that response to unfounded things that Obama would do. Not did, but would do!

When I defend Obama and his policies, you call my posts tiring. There are only two of us Democratic/Independent on this board that I can see. There may be more. Your post that 100% or maybe 98% are not a defense of Obama, but an attack on posters is a down right lie. I guess you just off your royal white charger, and jumped in the gutter with a hellva of other posters on this board. I am sure they will welcome you with open arms.

Did I just attack you? You damn right I did. Maybe I just tried to support your statement about the 100% or 98%. I think that would require about another 1,000 posts like this to get somewhere near the 98%. Ignore the entire post, and underline one line in it, and attack that line. That seems to be the name of the game here.

Once upon a time before the internet, we were told if you were angry write a letter and get your anger off your chest, but don't mail the letter. Too bad we can't get back to the good old days, and that includes me. I have tried several times, but have failed big time.

This is a forum to discuss issues and policies and current events, not other posters and what YOU want them to do.

President Obama, since he is President and responsible for US policies will get the most criticism and most mention.

Your post has nothing to do with any of this and is addressed at only one poster.

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With all due respect, I asked you to start a post on the five areas you would like discussed. Did you? Have you ever criticized any of the Republican wiseass cracks made on this board? You just accept them as fact. Whether you want to hear it or not you are driving down a lovely one way street. My post number 20 was an attempt to bring Republicans back to reality. You consider that a bad thing.

Obama's policies are criticized no matter what they are. You have turned a blind eye to that, but have no problem calling Democratic/Independent posters that response to unfounded things that Obama would do. Not did, but would do!

When I defend Obama and his policies, you call my posts tiring. There are only two of us Democratic/Independent on this board that I can see. There may be more. Your post that 100% or maybe 98% are not a defense of Obama, but an attack on posters is a down right lie. I guess you just off your royal white charger, and jumped in the gutter with a hellva of other posters on this board. I am sure they will welcome you with open arms.

Did I just attack you? You damn right I did. Maybe I just tried to support your statement about the 100% or 98%. I think that would require about another 1,000 posts like this to get somewhere near the 98%. Ignore the entire post, and underline one line in it, and attack that line. That seems to be the name of the game here.

Once upon a time before the internet, we were told if you were angry write a letter and get your anger off your chest, but don't mail the letter. Too bad we can't get back to the good old days, and that includes me. I have tried several times, but have failed big time.

Somebody is feeling self important this morning !!!

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Bush responded to what America was screaming for, vengeance. Terrorists brought their war to us, and we responded. Congress, including Hilary and Kerry voted for the invasion. And yes, Bush did respond immediately by shutting down all air travel and secured the borders. Maybe some do not remember 9/11 but I remember exactly what I was doing at the time it happened.
Bush did get us into a war, and Obama being the pacifist he is, only wanted to chicken out of it and leave it unfinished. Being a weak "lead from behind" administrator, has emboldened terrorists to think they can bully the world. But, once we have a leader in the White House, terrorists will suddenly realize that not all Americans are as weak as a small minority of cowardly politicians.
If we had a Bush-like leader in the White House, I doubt there would have been an attack on France. Just my opinion. Terrorists are dedicated cowards. They will bully unarmed citizens and blow themselves up, but they are still cowards. They won't fight on an equal basis. And they know that America is leaderless right now and unable to organize and lead the world against them. That will change in a year, when we elect a stronger (Republican) president.

Our military trains to fight a war, not rebuild countries. We have warriors not peace corps volunteers in our military. Unleash them and allow them to do what they are experts at and the middle East will either toe the line or die. This is not the time for a weak leader. Another reason we don't want to elect Sanders, Hilary or Ran Paul.

And remember that in war there will be collateral damage; citizens killed. It's not something that we want to do, but sometimes necessary to achieve a resolution to the conflict. We dropped two big ones on Japan and won the war. Better to have collateral damage overseas than to have twin towers here.


What the terrorist do know, is the American public is tired of war. I am sorry "W" signed an agreement with Maliki, president of Iraq, for our troops to leave that country. Obama lived up to that agreement. The problem in that part of the world is not what either of our presidents did, or didn't do. The problem in that part of the world is the Muslims themselves. They, except the Kurds, will not address their own problem. The Muslims countries in that part of the world have 5 million soldiers under arms, and none of them a lifting a finger. Why, because ISIS is leaving them alone. bleep that!

Maybe now with the attacks on Paris, NATO will get off its dead ass ,and do something. I am with you. There should be a ground attack of over 100,000 troops not all ours, and wipe out ISIS from Syria, and Iraq. They can't be wiped off the face if the earth, but you can make them pretty much nonexistent. Split Iraq into three separate countries with the religious belief in each of these being the majority of the people there.

The Middle East is a no win situation. If you sit on the bench, you will not get blamed for the loss. I pity the next president. He/she is being handed a complete mess.

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What the terrorist do know, is the American public is tired of war. I am sorry "W" signed an agreement with Maliki, president of Iraq, for our troops to leave that country. Obama lived up to that agreement. The problem in that part of the world is not what either of our presidents did, or didn't do. The problem in that part of the world is the Muslims themselves. They, except the Kurds, will not address their own problem. The Muslims countries in that part of the world have 5 million soldiers under arms, and none of them a lifting a finger. Why, because ISIS is leaving them alone. bleep that!

Maybe now with the attacks on Paris, NATO will get off its dead ass ,and do something. I am with you. There should be a ground attack of over 100,000 troops not all ours, and wipe out ISIS from Syria, and Iraq. They can't be wiped off the face if the earth, but you can make them pretty much nonexistent. Split Iraq into three separate countries with the religious belief in each of these being the majority of the people there.

The Middle East is a no win situation. If you sit on the bench, you will not get blamed for the loss. I pity the next president. He/she is being handed a complete mess.

I don't believe that the Middle East is a "no win" situation. There are several strategies, most of which are not very popular.
1. Become energy self-sufficient, and quit doing business with them. Then put a moratorium on visas from the Middle East.
2. Bomb them into submission, using nukes if needed. Make them return to their nomad wandering.
3. Threaten a trade embargo on all Middle Eastern countries until they police themselves. Then, sit back and allow them to use WHATEVER means they prefer to bring this to an end. It would be bloody and nasty, but we would stay out of it.
4. Become isolationists and block all business, traffic, visas and visits from the Middle East. Break off all business ties with the Middle East, period. Not good on the economy, but effective.
5. Send massive amounts of troops over to occupy their countries and police the terrorist into extinction. Chance of losing a lot of our military members.
6. Target any city known to sympathize with the enemy and mass bomb it. We could warn all countries of our campaign so that any innocents would be able to leave, if possible.

Some of the above were similar or related. Some could be used together to achieve the goal. War is sickening, but someone has to do it in order to maintain some semblance of peace in the world. Terrorists should not be treated the same as enemy soldiers in respect to conventions. They should receive a quick trial and execution.

To achieve peace, someone may have to fight for it. Sounds like an oxymoron, but it's the truth.

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With all due respect, I asked you to start a post on the five areas you would like discussed. Did you? Have you ever criticized any of the Republican wiseass cracks made on this board? You just accept them as fact. Whether you want to hear it or not you are driving down a lovely one way street. My post number 20 was an attempt to bring Republicans back to reality. You consider that a bad thing.

Obama's policies are criticized no matter what they are. You have turned a blind eye to that, but have no problem calling Democratic/Independent posters that response to unfounded things that Obama would do. Not did, but would do!

When I defend Obama and his policies, you call my posts tiring. There are only two of us Democratic/Independent on this board that I can see. There may be more. Your post that 100% or maybe 98% are not a defense of Obama, but an attack on posters is a down right lie. I guess you just off your royal white charger, and jumped in the gutter with a hellva of other posters on this board. I am sure they will welcome you with open arms.

Did I just attack you? You damn right I did. Maybe I just tried to support your statement about the 100% or 98%. I think that would require about another 1,000 posts like this to get somewhere near the 98%. Ignore the entire post, and underline one line in it, and attack that line. That seems to be the name of the game here.

Once upon a time before the internet, we were told if you were angry write a letter and get your anger off your chest, but don't mail the letter. Too bad we can't get back to the good old days, and that includes me. I have tried several times, but have failed big time.

I'll pray for you. You are obviously having a bad day.

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I don't believe that the Middle East is a "no win" situation. There are several strategies, most of which are not very popular.
1. Become energy self-sufficient, and quit doing business with them. Then put a moratorium on visas from the Middle East.
2. Bomb them into submission, using nukes if needed. Make them return to their nomad wandering.
3. Threaten a trade embargo on all Middle Eastern countries until they police themselves. Then, sit back and allow them to use WHATEVER means they prefer to bring this to an end. It would be bloody and nasty, but we would stay out of it.
4. Become isolationists and block all business, traffic, visas and visits from the Middle East. Break off all business ties with the Middle East, period. Not good on the economy, but effective.
5. Send massive amounts of troops over to occupy their countries and police the terrorist into extinction. Chance of losing a lot of our military members.
6. Target any city known to sympathize with the enemy and mass bomb it. We could warn all countries of our campaign so that any innocents would be able to leave, if possible.

Some of the above were similar or related. Some could be used together to achieve the goal. War is sickening, but someone has to do it in order to maintain some semblance of peace in the world. Terrorists should not be treated the same as enemy soldiers in respect to conventions. They should receive a quick trial and execution.

To achieve peace, someone may have to fight for it. Sounds like an oxymoron, but it's the truth.

Someone should pray for you.

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I don't believe that the Middle East is a "no win" situation. There are several strategies, most of which are not very popular.
1. Become energy self-sufficient, and quit doing business with them. Then put a moratorium on visas from the Middle East.
2. Bomb them into submission, using nukes if needed. Make them return to their nomad wandering.
3. Threaten a trade embargo on all Middle Eastern countries until they police themselves. Then, sit back and allow them to use WHATEVER means they prefer to bring this to an end. It would be bloody and nasty, but we would stay out of it.
4. Become isolationists and block all business, traffic, visas and visits from the Middle East. Break off all business ties with the Middle East, period. Not good on the economy, but effective.
5. Send massive amounts of troops over to occupy their countries and police the terrorist into extinction. Chance of losing a lot of our military members.
6. Target any city known to sympathize with the enemy and mass bomb it. We could warn all countries of our campaign so that any innocents would be able to leave, if possible.

Some of the above were similar or related. Some could be used together to achieve the goal. War is sickening, but someone has to do it in order to maintain some semblance of peace in the world. Terrorists should not be treated the same as enemy soldiers in respect to conventions. They should receive a quick trial and execution.

To achieve peace, someone may have to fight for it. Sounds like an oxymoron, but it's the truth.

I like this post in that it provides different scenarios to resolve a problem. Even if you don't agree with them at least they have been put out there in an interesting and concise way. So much better than the tedious blaming game.

BTW, 1 & 6 in conjunction are intriguing.

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I like this post in that it provides different scenarios to resolve a problem. Even if you don't agree with them at least they have been put out there in an interesting and concise way. So much better than the tedious blaming game.

BTW, 1 & 6 in conjunction are intriguing.

Been a lot of great thoughts put out there.

Rubio and Trump, in my opinion topped the list for alternatives.

Problem is, nothing will happen since our CINC said this morning, he will not change anything.

But, while you are correct about ideas, and geez I hate to start sounding anti Obama, BUT he is our leader, but our President sincerely thinks he and only he is correct. I might say he and his advisors, expect ally Valarie Jarrett.

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I'll pray for you. You are obviously having a bad day.


I am having a great day. The poster that I addressed the post to didn't respond, but the three blind mice did. I am laughing at you three. If you haven't noticed what your fellow Republican, and I have been going back and forth on, it is you. He fully accepts posts like yours, and attacks me, when I respond to them, and I am the problem. Sure, why not!

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The above post simply adds to the reason I gotta get out of here.

I suspect, but cannot prove. Have been told, but again cannot prove.

Some real whackos and calling them whackos is being kind..they are sick...anyway, some are hiding under the GUEST moniker and posting deragatory remarks about one side of the aisle or other...

THEN coming back in and responding to their own post with a criticism. We have all seen the string of those which have nothing to do with anything but smart aleck remarks.

This in an effort to manifest a mood, or trend that is not true.

I do not want to even be in the same forum as people like that; I suppose that kind of actions is a symptom and I wish them well.

Get rid of the GUEST disguise and I am back.

Some are just sick with what they find fun.

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I don't believe that the Middle East is a "no win" situation. There are several strategies, most of which are not very popular.
1. Become energy self-sufficient, and quit doing business with them. Then put a moratorium on visas from the Middle East.
2. Bomb them into submission, using nukes if needed. Make them return to their nomad wandering.
3. Threaten a trade embargo on all Middle Eastern countries until they police themselves. Then, sit back and allow them to use WHATEVER means they prefer to bring this to an end. It would be bloody and nasty, but we would stay out of it.
4. Become isolationists and block all business, traffic, visas and visits from the Middle East. Break off all business ties with the Middle East, period. Not good on the economy, but effective.
5. Send massive amounts of troops over to occupy their countries and police the terrorist into extinction. Chance of losing a lot of our military members.
6. Target any city known to sympathize with the enemy and mass bomb it. We could warn all countries of our campaign so that any innocents would be able to leave, if possible.

Some of the above were similar or related. Some could be used together to achieve the goal. War is sickening, but someone has to do it in order to maintain some semblance of peace in the world. Terrorists should not be treated the same as enemy soldiers in respect to conventions. They should receive a quick trial and execution.

To achieve peace, someone may have to fight for it. Sounds like an oxymoron, but it's the truth.

The policies that you are putting forward are too extreme. You are declaring war on hundreds of billions of people. The US oil companies won't let you walk away from so called friendly Arab nations. they have too much invested there. Congress will certainly listen to them.

Being energy independent makes all the sense in the world, but we have to go one step further. We have to be the major supplier of oil/gas to Europe, and maybe Japan. we are getting that much energy from the Middle East. By not buying oil from them will not hurt them. They have plenty of other customers. China is one of them,. We sent a lot of our production to China, because of their cheap labor. We are our worse enemy.

There is no way in hell that we can't destroy ISIS in Syria, and Iraq. Are we talking about 30/40 thousand lunatics in a confined area. The people in this area don't seem to be doing anything about them, but cutting and running. That is not a bad thing. Maybe now our NATO, and Arab allies may now get off their asses, and put together a large force of troops together and attack ISIS. Do what we did in the IRAQ wars. Bomb the hell out of them from the ground and sky for a long period of time, and then send the ground troops in. So worrying about collateral damage.

However, you can't stop small groups of terrorists from attacking us, or other countries. These people are just no damn good. You are not going to stop terrorism.

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The policies that you are putting forward are too extreme. You are declaring war on hundreds of billions of people. The US oil companies won't let you walk away from so called friendly Arab nations. they have too much invested there. Congress will certainly listen to them.

Being energy independent makes all the sense in the world, but we have to go one step further. We have to be the major supplier of oil/gas to Europe, and maybe Japan. we are getting that much energy from the Middle East. By not buying oil from them will not hurt them. They have plenty of other customers. China is one of them,. We sent a lot of our production to China, because of their cheap labor. We are our worse enemy.

There is no way in hell that we can't destroy ISIS in Syria, and Iraq. Are we talking about 30/40 thousand lunatics in a confined area. The people in this area don't seem to be doing anything about them, but cutting and running. That is not a bad thing. Maybe now our NATO, and Arab allies may now get off their asses, and put together a large force of troops together and attack ISIS. Do what we did in the IRAQ wars. Bomb the hell out of them from the ground and sky for a long period of time, and then send the ground troops in. So worrying about collateral damage.

However, you can't stop small groups of terrorists from attacking us, or other countries. These people are just no damn good. You are not going to stop terrorism.

That should be stop worrying about collateral damage.

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during the Iraq war bombing runs were measured in the hundreds per day.
With Obama's super restricted, stupid (for the military) rules of engagement, any bombing campaigns under his direction measure 5 to 20 ("heavy") runs.

He has tied the hands of his battelfield commanders to the point they cannot win a game of checkers.

I cannot imagine professional military folks being micro managed by a community organizer and a bunch of spineless advisors in the so called WH.

Give the commanders the orders.....LET THEM DECIDE HOW TO RUN THE WAR.

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Of course it's in the planning here as Mr do nothing President says Isis is contained a few hrs before yet another mass killing. We Are at war folks. The only one who doesn't know is Obama. Sometimes I think he hates America and he sits and watches as we all get attacked and killed. He is not doing his job of protecting us.

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Of course it's in the planning here as Mr do nothing President says Isis is contained a few hrs before yet another mass killing. We Are at war folks. The only one who doesn't know is Obama. Sometimes I think he hates America and he sits and watches as we all get attacked and killed. He is not doing his job of protecting us.

He is actually faking it while running interference for muslims....especially radical islamists!

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He is actually faking it while running interference for muslims....especially radical islamists!

:thumbup:

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When you have an enemy it is nice to have allies, especially allies that are not in name only. In WWII, England had us and Russia. There were others but not to the extent of fire and manpower that we and Russia had.

The last few days have changed the battle against ISIL. France, which has a very large military capability, appears to be fully committed. They have suffered deadly attacks on their homeland that have driven them to that point. Russia should be interesting. Now that it has been established that terrorism brought down their passenger jet and ISIL was responsible, will they turn their full attention against them or continue to also go after Assad's rebel enemies.

ISIL now has more than one formidable enemy, and we should step up our firepower to the relentless level. France and Russia may do the same. Now is the time.

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When you have an enemy it is nice to have allies, especially allies that are not in name only. In WWII, England had us and Russia. There were others but not to the extent of fire and manpower that we and Russia had.

The last few days have changed the battle against ISIL. France, which has a very large military capability, appears to be fully committed. They have suffered deadly attacks on their homeland that have driven them to that point. Russia should be interesting. Now that it has been established that terrorism brought down their passenger jet and ISIL was responsible, will they turn their full attention against them or continue to also go after Assad's rebel enemies.

ISIL now has more than one formidable enemy, and we should step up our firepower to the relentless level. France and Russia may do the same. Now is the time.

B. H. Obama told us yesterday he is NOT going to do anything different. That HIS strategy is working (that of flying cover for and infiltration of muslims).

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When you have an enemy it is nice to have allies, especially allies that are not in name only. In WWII, England had us and Russia. There were others but not to the extent of fire and manpower that we and Russia had.

The last few days have changed the battle against ISIL. France, which has a very large military capability, appears to be fully committed. They have suffered deadly attacks on their homeland that have driven them to that point. Russia should be interesting. Now that it has been established that terrorism brought down their passenger jet and ISIL was responsible, will they turn their full attention against them or continue to also go after Assad's rebel enemies.

ISIL now has more than one formidable enemy, and we should step up our firepower to the relentless level. France and Russia may do the same. Now is the time.

Frankly, I do not know how I feel about the comment that I about to make. France is expecting a lot more from us than we received from them. When we were attacked, and the towers were brought down, they didn't supply any troops in entire the second Iraq war.

Now that they were attacked, they declare war on ISIS, and expect all NATO nations to join them. This not a bad thing, and ISIS should be wiped from the face of the earth. If another NATO country is attacked in the future, France had better join in the fight.

Treat people the way you expect to get treated yourself. I hope France has learned something from this attack. When you ask for help, you should have provided help, when someone else needed it.

My comments feel like kicking someone, when they are down. Frankly, the US press should not have reported France's non participation in the second Iraq war. It really served no purpose this close to the current attack on their country.

There has been no talk that I have heard about sending large numbers on UN troops to destroy ISIS. Why can't the UN destroy ISIS, and leave peace keeping troops in the areas that ISIS occupied? I don't give a damn what IRAQ or Syria thinks about UN troops remaining in their countries.

When this is over, the Kurds should be given their own country.

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Frankly, I do not know how I feel about the comment that I about to make. France is expecting a lot more from us than we received from them. When we were attacked, and the towers were brought down, they didn't supply any troops in entire the second Iraq war.

Now that they were attacked, they declare war on ISIS, and expect all NATO nations to join them. This not a bad thing, and ISIS should be wiped from the face of the earth. If another NATO country is attacked in the future, France had better join in the fight.

Treat people the way you expect to get treated yourself. I hope France has learned something from this attack. When you ask for help, you should have provided help, when someone else needed it.

My comments feel like kicking someone, when they are down. Frankly, the US press should not have reported France's non participation in the second Iraq war. It really served no purpose this close to the current attack on their country.

There has been no talk that I have heard about sending large numbers on UN troops to destroy ISIS. Why can't the UN destroy ISIS, and leave peace keeping troops in the areas that ISIS occupied? I don't give a damn what IRAQ or Syria thinks about UN troops remaining in their countries.

When this is over, the Kurds should be given their own country.


France's didnt participate in the 2nd Iraqi war. Why should they have? It was a blunder that opened the door to where we are now. Not that this post stands alone as ridiculous on this forum, just that it is way up on the list.

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France's didnt participate in the 2nd Iraqi war. Why should they have? It was a blunder that opened the door to where we are now. Not that this post stands alone as ridiculous on this forum, just that it is way up on the list.

No, you get the prize for being ridiculous. At the time that we invaded Iraq, nobody knew that it was a blunder. You can pick up your crown at the door.

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No, you get the prize for being ridiculous. At the time that we invaded Iraq, nobody knew that it was a blunder. You can pick up your crown at the door.
Joey D, do you deliver?

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Joey D, do you deliver?

I can see how you would worry about getting lost if you left your home, chi. :1rotfl:

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I can see how you would worry about getting lost if you left your home, chi. :1rotfl:

At least, you accept the fact that your post was boarder line insanity. There is hope. Do they put a straight jacket on you, when you receive quests? If they do, I am going to steal your rubber ducky.

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OK you two. No plling on.

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Within MINUTES of being appraised of what was happening.

Would anybody care to venture how long it would take for Obama to make such a decision?

My answer? He would not. He would be on television telling us he does not have enough information yet. But to not be concerned because he has the situation well in hand. There is no need to close the border because that would create an imposition on ANYBODY trying to get in or out of the country.....and that just would not be fair to those people.

Let us all pray that what is happening in Paris is not in the planning here in America.






What happened in Paris already happened here - only a thousand times worse.

France closed their border? Yes - for one day

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At least, you accept the fact that your post was boarder line insanity. There is hope. Do they put a straight jacket on you, when you receive quests? If they do, I am going to steal your rubber ducky.

Sorry dude, but that wasn't my post that you commented on and I responded to. Just because I am also a "Guest" does not mean that we all look the same...:1rotfl:

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How long would it take before Obama reacted? Well, it would depend on whether or not he had his bags packed for his trip to Vegas.