On the lighter side....Chris Rock on the candidates

[Guest]

I like Chris Rock's take on the election. He said something like this recently:

"Obama is more grounded with your average American -- not somebody like McCain with "12 houses."

"The other guy [McCain] can lose five houses," Rock said.

"I'll go with the guy with one house. The guy with one house is scared about losing his house."

[Guest]

Someone should email this link to Chris Rock, he will see the laugh is on him. (And I think Chris Rock does some good comedy).

http://www.zillowblog.com/barack-obamas-chicago-house/2008/09/

[Guest]

Someone should email this link to Chris Rock, he will see the laugh is on him. (And I think Chris Rock does some good comedy).

http://www.zillowblog.com/barack-obamas-chicago-house/2008/09/

Peachie...dont you dare say anything bad about Sen Obama.....that might make you a .....or a........ :)

[Guest]

If you can't tell, Bucco, I am really ticked about having to pay for all the homes that were sold to people whom didn't buy their homes the way we bought ours. We saved, we scrounged, we went without and for that, we get to shell out for the bailout. Yess, I am very, very irritated. :rant-rave:

[Guest]

If you can't tell, Bucco, I am really ticked about having to pay for all the homes that were sold to people whom didn't buy their homes the way we bought ours. We saved, we scrounged, we went without and for that, we get to shell out for the bailout. Yess, I am very, very irritated. :rant-rave:

Peachie...at this point I have nothing personal against any of these folks but just fear that we are beginning socialism in this country and throwing our successful capitalistic society aside. NO socialist society has ever succeeded and we seem to be hell bent to go there !

I am also against this bail out under all circumstances.

[Guest]

Socialism at this point, is probably the least of your problems, Bucco. There is a real mess out there and our posturing congressional leaders, IMHO, do not have a clue and the candy just keeps falling our of their pockets. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26915459
The saying used to be, "drill baby, drill. Now it should be, "print money, print".

[Guest]

Socialism at this point, is probably the least of your problems, Bucco. There is a real mess out there and our posturing congressional leaders, IMHO, do not have a clue and the candy just keeps falling our of their pockets. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26915459
The saying used to be, "drill baby, drill. Now it should be, "print money, print".

You are correct but imagine the next two years with Sen Obama, THE SINGLE MOST LIBERAL OF ALL OF THEM, at the helm !!!!!

[Guest]

Well, Bucco, we've had GW for 8 years and look where we're at. Throw them all out!! And, may I add, people need to live within their means and dump the debt in their lives.

[Guest]

Well, Bucco, we've had GW for 8 years and look where we're at. Throw them all out!! And, may I add, people need to live within their means and dump the debt in their lives.

First you CANNOT THROW THEM ALL OUT. Second, GW is not running for anything. Thirdly, I do not support Sen Mcain....I wish we had other choices but we dont and to make a change this radical JUST BECAUSE OF CHANGE is a mistake in my opinion. The rush to change without thinking of the consequences can be a disaster !

I might add...look at Sen Obama's promises, track record and then compare it to the congress folks you are watching on videos and on tv.....they are not going to do what you suggest......make folks live within their means...just the opposite...they want to insure the "american dream" for everyone and NOW !

[Guest]

Bucco, are you writing in your presidential candidate? IMHO, you are a closet McCain supporter but I don't think you need to apologize or deny that. We all make our choices based on our perceptions, intuitions, information gleaned and how the new candidate will affect our personal situations. Whomever, you choose is your decision and your decision alone. I'm seeing no remedies to this mess out there. I think the "spend freely as you go" population will be the winners.

[Guest]

Bucco, are you writing in your presidential candidate? IMHO, you are a closet McCain supporter but I don't think you need to apologize or deny that. We all make our choices based on our perceptions, intuitions, information gleaned and how the new candidate will affect our personal situations. Whomever, you choose is your decision and your decision alone. I'm seeing no remedies to this mess out there. I think the "spend freely as you go" population will be the winners.

Peachie.....I have never, that I can think of, written anything here or anywhere IN SUPPORT of Sen McCain. I HAVE WRITTEN that Sen Obama is by far the most radical left winger EVER EVEN nominated for such a high office.

Had the Democratic nominee been Sen Clinton I believe I could have supported her, but you will just have to trust me...I think both nominees are bad and that I am speaking against a candidate who is radical and has the entire congress at his beckoned call !

[Guest]

Then you have a write in candidate in your mind, Bucco? (Just curious and you don't have to tell....)

Sigh.... I'll just tell you how it appears to me. There are two candidates for president of which one will be president-elect shortly. Your posts from beginning to end do NOT support Mr. Obama. That would leave the other candidate, John McCain, to receive your vote unless you are not voting this year or have a write-in candidate. If John McCain does get your vote, that makes you pro-McCain. It's ok, everyone needs to vote for their choice.

[Guest]

Then you have a write in candidate in your mind, Bucco? (Just curious and you don't have to tell....)

Sigh.... I'll just tell you how it appears to me. There are two candidates for president of which one will be president-elect shortly. Your posts from beginning to end do NOT support Mr. Obama. That would leave the other candidate, John McCain, to receive your vote unless you are not voting this year or have a write-in candidate. If John McCain does get your vote, that makes you pro-McCain. It's ok, everyone needs to vote for their choice.

I will never ever apologize for supporting any candidate !!!!

I will vote FOR McCain because a write in will not prevent Sen Obama from taking the presidency and that is what I am against. I know that it is a rather negative way to go at it, but these are the candidates we were given and we do not have a viable 3rd party candidate !

[Guest]

Congrats, Bucco. :clap2: I applaud you on admitting you have chosen a candidate but remember that as strongly as you feel about John McCain, Barrack Obama's followers have the same committment. It will be good when the race is over and banners are laid down. But then the even more important races will begin, senators and representatives. That's where some real "CHANGE" is needed.

[Guest]

Peachie...at this point I have nothing personal against any of these folks but just fear that we are beginning socialism in this country and throwing our successful capitalistic society aside. NO socialist society has ever succeeded and we seem to be hell bent to go there !

I am also against this bail out under all circumstances.

Bucco, I don't know if you noticed, but our capitalist society isn't very successful right now. It must be fixed to work. Way too many greedy people in this country.

Peachie, I agree that one must choose based on their knowledge and instincts. My instinct tells me LOUD AND CLEAR that if McCain wins we are headed for unprecedented disaster. I had the same instinct about George Bush 8 years ago, and the same instinct about Iraq. I trust my instincts. My vote is clearly for Obama.

Quite frankly, we cannot afford more of the same on any level. I do not want a man that makes impulsive decisions coupled with an angry, war mongering temperament to stand as head of this country. That's McCain.

I want a person of high intellect, diplomacy and character to be in charge of this country. A person that can help America get back on it's feet and stand tall. That's Senator Obama. To me the choice is clear cut.

We desperately need to regain our leadership in the world. Right now, we are a joke. I just came back from a trip, watching only international news. To the rest of the world, there is no other candidate than Obama. People around the world are literally praying that the American people are bright enough to realize this. I am too.

[Guest]

that as strongly as you feel about John McCain
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You sort of put words inmy mouth with this statement dont you think

I do however agree that congress is the election to watch

[Guest]

To the rest of the world, there is no other candidate than Obama.
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This part I agree with....and of course you think it is because they want what is best for the United States !!!

[Guest]

To the rest of the world, there is no other candidate than Obama.
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This part I agree with....and of course you think it is because they want what is best for the United States !!!

No, I think it's because it's what's best for them. Our economy affects the entire world. Hellooooooo! If we fail, so do many, many other countries.

[Guest]

No, I think it's because it's what's best for them. Our economy affects the entire world. Hellooooooo!



I TOTALLY AGREE !!!!

We have separated from the world economically because of our system which is totally opposed to socialism......our move to the far left is GREAT for many, not all, of the rest of the world !!!

[Guest]

Sorry, Bucco, not trying to put words in your mouth. I meant you strongly felt John McCain was the better candidate.

Chels, exactly how many people or what percentage of the population makes over $250,000. per year? No where near enough to fund all the programs coming out of Mr. Obama's mouth and the existing financial mess. So many American corporations seem to be struggling right now that adding huge taxes increases could be the death knell. Many of the corporations that do flourish have excellent records of philanthrophy, (Bill Gates comes to mind), and do better without the government in the middle of the handouts. Mr. Obama's programs cannot be supported by that little tax revenue alone. He's going to tax the profits of oil companies to help, that's you and me, right in the bread basket. Increases of that sort are passed directly to the consumer. Middle America will be greatly diminished by the taxes all of his spending would require. Mr. Obama wants to pull out of Iraq immediately and head to Pakistan and Afghanistan, that's not a freebie and there's no cost savings. In fact, military funding will, in all likelihood, need to be increased. And doesn't Pakistan have nuclear weapons?

What is attracting my vote toward Mr. McCain is his record for controlling spending and we can give all the money we want in handouts but look at the last stimulus checks... We're right back where we were and there was no investment in the infrastructure of America to create jobs. Handouts usually require more handout, nature of the beast. Jobs create a living and dignity for families struggling to survive. I think Mr. McCain is a spending reformer and that is why there is such a huge swell of money behind Mr. Obama. You think all of his campaign chest came from the poor people? More likely from the bloated sots living off the government largess at this point wanting their spigot not to dry up.

Well, that's my dog in this fight... Mr. Peachie and I are not rich, we would like to live out the end of our lives in dignity with the money WE saved and feel assured our children will not be ladened with taxes for the rest of their lives that crush a decent living to pay for grandiose, pork barrel spending by our benevolent legislators and endorsed by the standing president.

Thus, my current list is toward McCain but then there are still debates to be considered. (I reserve the right for this to be my opinion and my opinion only and I will still respect the dignified opinions of others whether or not we agree). :thumbup: God help us all!

[Guest]

OK Peachie, we will agree to disagree. I don't see McCain as a spending reformer of any kind. He's backing all of Bush's old tax policies. Not to mention his deregulation votes. It's my opinion his "Maverick" days are over. He sold his soul to get this nomination and quite frankly, we'll be paying for that too if he wins.

I agreed, God help us all.

[Guest]

I TOTALLY AGREE !!!!

We have separated from the world economically because of our system which is totally opposed to socialism......our move to the far left is GREAT for many, not all, of the rest of the world !!!

Bucco, you seem to have found a buzz word in socialism. How about a fixed and healed Capitalist Society? Is that out of the realm of possibility to you with Obama? I don't get it.

McCain's theatrics of "parachuting" into Washington to help with this bailout was a joke. He did nothing to help the country, he simply opted for one more photo op.

[Guest]

Chels, my laptop must like Mr. Obama. Locked up and went down right after I posted my too long, stay out of the political arena, post. :shrug:

And I do want National Healthcare. There I said it!

[Guest]

Chels, my laptop must like Mr. Obama. Locked up and went down right after I posted my too long, stay out of the political arena, post. :shrug:

And I do want National Healthcare. There is said it!

Hahaha Peachie! See! There are stronger powers at work up there! I absolutely agree with National Health Care.

[Guest]

Is that out of the realm of possibility to you with Obama?
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Yes, absolutely...his training has been in socialism.....his associates have been socialist....his voting thus far in the senate..socialist.....his programs IF YOU READ THEM...socialist..his current staff is loaded with nothing but the radical left wing people.....thus I assume that the answer is that it IS OUT OF THE REALM OF POSSIBLITLY for Sen Obama to all of a sudden convert and accept capitalism

[Guest]

has shown us the wisdom....I know it was intended as humor but sick humor....and I am sure Chris Rock can relate to the average American....uh-huh!!!!!!!!!
Fortunately or not even the poorest of threads develop a life of their own...thread related or not (usually).

Chris Rock.....foul mouth, racist, hypocrite....oh, My!!

BTK

[Guest]

Well, Bucco, we've had GW for 8 years and look where we're at. Throw them all out!! And, may I add, people need to live within their means and dump the debt in their lives.

How many edges can a sword have? You are so right about people who have lived beyond their means also having a hand in our present dilemma. It's understandable that families want the stability of a house of their own, but like children, they went ahead with mortgages offered them that they couldn't afford. Institutions are to blame for enticing these willing victims. Then there is the credit card abuse, committed by far too many people. Wall St. greed, golden parachutes, etc. seem to be mostly what is discussed. Do you seriously think that wealthy Henry Paulson, former CEO of Goldman Sachs, is seriously concerned with us, who do live within their means & think first, buy later, but now will be forced to pay for what should never have happened in the first place? We'll be "had" once again. Economic Recovery Act. Please.