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11-20-2015, 08:16 PM
All day, I have seen tapes of Donald Trump, supposedly saying he wants a database of all Muslims, which he really didnt say but did imply. I have seen Ben Carson tapes all day talking about dogs. It almost seems like a Democratic campaign.
Tonight I see this headline ......
"These 47 Democrats Just Voted to Send Syrian Refugees Back to their Imminent Death"
These 47 Democrats Just Voted to Send Syrian Refugees Back to their Imminent Death (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/19/1452134/-These-47-Democrats-Just-Voted-to-Send-Syrian-Refugees-Back-to-their-Imminent-Death)
Of course that is a condemnation of the Democrats who supported the Republican introduced bill in congress on pausing, not stopping the refugee problem.
When do we get back to responsible journalism and informative journalism ? Or are we stuck with this stuff, which if you really want to know the truth, you need to do your own personal digging around. Most people will not do that "digging around" and thus are at the mercy of whatever media they have become "attached to.
PLEASE do not come on here and speak about any particular network, or website. I am speaking of and complaining about the lack of good journalism and how the bad, seedy journalism is affecting the american voter.
Sad for me.
The media and all parties have been totally absent from public view over the last 2 1/2 years when this refugee problem could have been averted
This article goes back to September 2012....
" Syrian refugees are beginning to make their way to Europe, according to Reuters. Eurostat said 12,325 Syrians had lodged asylum appeals across the EU from January to June - a figure likely to understate the numbers coming in, due to delays in collating data and the fact that not all register, it said.
• Jordan estimates that the number of refugees fleeing Syria is growing by up to 10,000 a week, as conditions in overcrowded camps get worse. The Guardian's Harriet Sherwood described the wretched condition at the Zataari camp close to the Syria border."
Syria: refugee crisis - Tuesday 4 September 2012 | World news | The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/world/middle-east-live/2012/sep/04/syria-refugee-crisis-live)
Not the USA media reporting.
And the chagrin of everyone about this entire situation...IN 2013 our President said this....
""What kind of world will we live in if the United States of America sees a dictator brazenly violate international law with poison gas and we choose to look the other way?"
Obama's Syria hypocrisy in a quote - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/obamas-syria-hypocrisy-in-a-quote-2015-9)
Point is ALL OF THIS may have been avoided, NOT by US ground troops but arming the rebels, establishing a no fly zone....any of them and it may have been all averted.
"The regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has been known to use mass torture, sarin nerve gas, barrel bombs, starvation, and mass rape to hang on to power amid a vicious civil war that has been tearing the country apart since it started in 2011.
When the war first broke out, the US was hesitant to arm moderate rebels over fears that the arms could fall into the hands of extremists. Robert Ford, who was the US ambassador to Syria from 2010 to 2014, told PBS Frontline earlier this year that the US dragging its feet on the decision to aid moderate rebel groups was a mistake.
"The jihadi elements in Syria were a distinct minority in the Syrian armed opposition in late 2012 and going into 2013," Ford told PBS. "My concern now is that we no longer have any good options."
Obama's Syria hypocrisy in a quote - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/obamas-syria-hypocrisy-in-a-quote-2015-9)
I know this appears like a shot at the President, but he is in charge and before anyone accuses me or anyone of only speaking ill of the President, I have tried...I started two threads as I promised that had no animosity toward anyone and got about 3 responses on one and none on the other.
This just, to me, indicts our leadership and the media. These poor people have been suffering and wanting. We, the leader of the free word, could have done so much....there was no Russia involved directly at the time...no Iran....
WE didnt even try and now we have a political debate on who loves or hates the Muslims more when the real debate should be why we ignored all of this.
Tonight I see this headline ......
"These 47 Democrats Just Voted to Send Syrian Refugees Back to their Imminent Death"
These 47 Democrats Just Voted to Send Syrian Refugees Back to their Imminent Death (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/19/1452134/-These-47-Democrats-Just-Voted-to-Send-Syrian-Refugees-Back-to-their-Imminent-Death)
Of course that is a condemnation of the Democrats who supported the Republican introduced bill in congress on pausing, not stopping the refugee problem.
When do we get back to responsible journalism and informative journalism ? Or are we stuck with this stuff, which if you really want to know the truth, you need to do your own personal digging around. Most people will not do that "digging around" and thus are at the mercy of whatever media they have become "attached to.
PLEASE do not come on here and speak about any particular network, or website. I am speaking of and complaining about the lack of good journalism and how the bad, seedy journalism is affecting the american voter.
Sad for me.
The media and all parties have been totally absent from public view over the last 2 1/2 years when this refugee problem could have been averted
This article goes back to September 2012....
" Syrian refugees are beginning to make their way to Europe, according to Reuters. Eurostat said 12,325 Syrians had lodged asylum appeals across the EU from January to June - a figure likely to understate the numbers coming in, due to delays in collating data and the fact that not all register, it said.
• Jordan estimates that the number of refugees fleeing Syria is growing by up to 10,000 a week, as conditions in overcrowded camps get worse. The Guardian's Harriet Sherwood described the wretched condition at the Zataari camp close to the Syria border."
Syria: refugee crisis - Tuesday 4 September 2012 | World news | The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/world/middle-east-live/2012/sep/04/syria-refugee-crisis-live)
Not the USA media reporting.
And the chagrin of everyone about this entire situation...IN 2013 our President said this....
""What kind of world will we live in if the United States of America sees a dictator brazenly violate international law with poison gas and we choose to look the other way?"
Obama's Syria hypocrisy in a quote - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/obamas-syria-hypocrisy-in-a-quote-2015-9)
Point is ALL OF THIS may have been avoided, NOT by US ground troops but arming the rebels, establishing a no fly zone....any of them and it may have been all averted.
"The regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has been known to use mass torture, sarin nerve gas, barrel bombs, starvation, and mass rape to hang on to power amid a vicious civil war that has been tearing the country apart since it started in 2011.
When the war first broke out, the US was hesitant to arm moderate rebels over fears that the arms could fall into the hands of extremists. Robert Ford, who was the US ambassador to Syria from 2010 to 2014, told PBS Frontline earlier this year that the US dragging its feet on the decision to aid moderate rebel groups was a mistake.
"The jihadi elements in Syria were a distinct minority in the Syrian armed opposition in late 2012 and going into 2013," Ford told PBS. "My concern now is that we no longer have any good options."
Obama's Syria hypocrisy in a quote - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/obamas-syria-hypocrisy-in-a-quote-2015-9)
I know this appears like a shot at the President, but he is in charge and before anyone accuses me or anyone of only speaking ill of the President, I have tried...I started two threads as I promised that had no animosity toward anyone and got about 3 responses on one and none on the other.
This just, to me, indicts our leadership and the media. These poor people have been suffering and wanting. We, the leader of the free word, could have done so much....there was no Russia involved directly at the time...no Iran....
WE didnt even try and now we have a political debate on who loves or hates the Muslims more when the real debate should be why we ignored all of this.