View Full Version : Stupid is as stupid does
golfing eagles
11-24-2015, 05:05 AM
Here's a new one on me, perhaps more experienced Villagers have seen this before:
Yesterday, driving north on Buena Vista at the Evans Prairie RB, a golf cart(NOT LSV, no plates) shot out of the clubhouse parking lot into the RB through a stop sign and right in front of me. Had I been going 20 mph instead of the 12 or 13 I was actually driving, I would have absolutely creamed them. 20 mph may not seem like much, but if you're in a cart hit by a 4600 pound SUV, the pure momentum will leave you seriously injured or worse. The driver then proceeded around the RB 180 to the EP Trail gates. BTW, this was not a very elderly driver, 40's, maybe 50's at most, I was close enough to get a good look.
So, for the vote of the day, was this plain ignorance, or was it an intentional "shortcut" to avoid driving up to the tunnel? For fans of "Hill Street Blues", "Let's be careful out there".
Chatbrat
11-24-2015, 06:17 AM
Maybe its time for the Villages to come out for some kind of a license plate or ID# for all carts driven in the Villages --the white rental carts have #'s--a while back a cart hit & ran from injuring a bicyclist. This way without anonymity, some of these cart drivers would drive like they really care.
rubicon
11-24-2015, 06:36 AM
Maybe its time for the Villages to come out for some kind of a license plate or ID# for all carts driven in the Villages --the white rental carts have #'s--a while back a cart hit & ran from injuring a bicyclist. This way without anonymity, some of these cart drivers would drive like they really care.
First, the golf cart driver appears to have little regard for himself nor anyone else Its called entitlement. I am entitled to selfish very selfish thinking
Secondly, I have contacted the district and Community Watch in the past and asked them why do they not issue some sort of ID for carts at the same time they issue ID card and gate passes. In this day of technology it would be easy to issue a cart ID that can be transferred to a new card and at a minimum cost?
I wonder how many other residents have thought the same thing and how many have also made inquiries to leaders in this community?
Villageswimmer
11-24-2015, 07:01 AM
First, the golf cart driver appears to have little regard for himself nor anyone else Its called entitlement. I am entitled to selfish very selfish thinking
Secondly, I have contacted the district and Community Watch in the past and asked them why do they not issue some sort of ID for carts at the same time they issue ID card and gate passes. In this day of technology it would be easy to issue a cart ID that can be transferred to a new card and at a minimum cost?
I wonder how many other residents have thought the same thing and how many have also made inquiries to leaders in this community?
Well....except that there are a lot of renters driving carts belonging to property owners, etc. Not everyone at the wheel owns the cart.
golfing eagles
11-24-2015, 07:15 AM
Well....except that there are a lot of renters driving carts belonging to property owners, etc. Not everyone at the wheel owns the cart.
Yes, but it would identify the cart and cart owner---if someone else was driving it you can be sure the owner would rat them out rather than face the consequences of an act they did not commit.
outlaw
11-24-2015, 07:43 AM
I'm waiting for someone to suggest a golf cart driving test requirement...
Bogie Shooter
11-24-2015, 08:08 AM
Here's a new one on me, perhaps more experienced Villagers have seen this before:
Yesterday, driving north on Buena Vista at the Evans Prairie RB, a golf cart(NOT LSV, no plates) shot out of the clubhouse parking lot into the RB through a stop sign and right in front of me. Had I been going 20 mph instead of the 12 or 13 I was actually driving, I would have absolutely creamed them. 20 mph may not seem like much, but if you're in a cart hit by a 4600 pound SUV, the pure momentum will leave you seriously injured or worse. The driver then proceeded around the RB 180 to the EP Trail gates. BTW, this was not a very elderly driver, 40's, maybe 50's at most, I was close enough to get a good look.
So, for the vote of the day, was this plain ignorance, or was it an intentional "shortcut" to avoid driving up to the tunnel? For fans of "Hill Street Blues", "Let's be careful out there".
Its these young'uns that cause all the problems in TV.:throwtomatoes:
Average Guy
11-24-2015, 08:15 AM
I observed the same thing at that roundabout this morning, except in the opposite direction. I was surprised to see it and my first thought as that it was a visitor or renter who was not familiar with the laws regarding golf carts. My second thought was that it was someone looking for a shortcut to get to Evans Prairie Country Club without regard for the law. Unfortunately, in either case there was not much risk that they would be caught, even though the consequences of getting caught or getting hit hardly justified the risk they took. :grumpy:
golfing eagles
11-24-2015, 08:20 AM
I observed the same thing at that roundabout this morning, except in the opposite direction. I was surprised to see it and my first thought as that it was a visitor or renter who was not familiar with the laws regarding golf carts. My second thought was that it was someone looking for a shortcut to get to Evans Prairie Country Club without regard for the law. Unfortunately, in either case there was not much risk that they would be caught, even though the consequences of getting caught or getting hit hardly justified the risk they took. :grumpy:
Quite a bit off my own topic, but speaking of EP I live on a hole with a protected wetlands pond. The number of golfers who fish for a ball in there, facing a potential $1500 fine is amazing. The DEC officer could hang out on my lanai and greatly increase state revenue. Why even bother looking for a $3 golf ball? It simply increases the temptation to fetch it.
Taltarzac725
11-24-2015, 08:25 AM
I was out walking the dog last evening in Lynnhaven/Belvedere around 5:00 P.M. and saw what looked like a golf cart with only a passenger on board. I looked at it when it drove by a saw that it was driven by a kid who could barely see over the steering wheel. They stopped at a house a few doors down and out popped the passenger a 30 something female along with the driver who I would have estimated at about eight-ten years old. A young boy.
NYGUY
11-24-2015, 08:28 AM
Here's a new one on me, perhaps more experienced Villagers have seen this before:
Yesterday, driving north on Buena Vista at the Evans Prairie RB, a golf cart(NOT LSV, no plates) shot out of the clubhouse parking lot into the RB through a stop sign and right in front of me. Had I been going 20 mph instead of the 12 or 13 I was actually driving, I would have absolutely creamed them. 20 mph may not seem like much, but if you're in a cart hit by a 4600 pound SUV, the pure momentum will leave you seriously injured or worse. The driver then proceeded around the RB 180 to the EP Trail gates. BTW, this was not a very elderly driver, 40's, maybe 50's at most, I was close enough to get a good look.
So, for the vote of the day, was this plain ignorance, or was it an intentional "shortcut" to avoid driving up to the tunnel? For fans of "Hill Street Blues", "Let's be careful out there".
Sounds to me like a guy who lives over that way and takes that shortcut all the time. You will see many more wild and crazy a** maneuvers as you travel around The Villages. BTW Doc, welcome to your new home!!
golfing eagles
11-24-2015, 08:29 AM
I was out walking the dog last evening in Lynnhaven/Belvedere around 5:00 P.M. and saw what looked like a golf cart with only a passenger on board. I looked at it when it drove by a saw that it was driven by a kind who could barely see over the steering wheel. They stopped at a house a few doors down and out popped the passenger a 30 something female along with the driver who I would have estimated at about eight-ten years old. A young boy.
Like I titled the thread----"Stupid is as stupid does":1rotfl:
dbussone
11-24-2015, 08:29 AM
Quite a bit off my own topic, but speaking of EP I live on a hole with a protected wetlands pond. The number of golfers who fish for a ball in there, facing a potential $1500 fine is amazing. The DEC officer could hang out on my lanai and greatly increase state revenue. Why even bother looking for a $3 golf ball? It simply increases the temptation to fetch it.
$3 for a golf ball? Holy smokes. I bet you eat a lot of lobster too.
golfing eagles
11-24-2015, 08:31 AM
Sounds to me like a guy who lives over that way and takes that shortcut all the time. You will see many more wild and crazy a** maneuvers as you travel around The Villages. BTW Doc, welcome to your new home!!
Thank you, glad to join you guys. Still need to hunt down BF and collect my lobster!:1rotfl:
golfing eagles
11-24-2015, 08:32 AM
$3 for a golf ball? Holy smokes. I bet you eat a lot of lobster too.
Wanted to put a price on it that might motivate these people to risk $1500 fine to get it. A 25 cent used X-out might be abandoned by even the most frugal.
Bogie Shooter
11-24-2015, 09:48 AM
I was out walking the dog last evening in Lynnhaven/Belvedere around 5:00 P.M. and saw what looked like a golf cart with only a passenger on board. I looked at it when it drove by a saw that it was driven by a kid who could barely see over the steering wheel. They stopped at a house a few doors down and out popped the passenger a 30 something female along with the driver who I would have estimated at about eight-ten years old. A young boy.
Its a Holiday week. Visiting children and grandchildren.................you will see more.
outahere
11-24-2015, 10:22 AM
It's not just golf cart drivers....... my wife was going north on Buena Vista, near the Collier gate yesterday, and there was a large SUV driving on the west side MMP. Perhaps they should install sturdy steel and concrete poles wherever a MMP intersects with a road or rec center driveway. Although some people would probably just drive around them in the grass.
outlaw
11-24-2015, 10:31 AM
Quite a bit off my own topic, but speaking of EP I live on a hole with a protected wetlands pond. The number of golfers who fish for a ball in there, facing a potential $1500 fine is amazing. The DEC officer could hang out on my lanai and greatly increase state revenue. Why even bother looking for a $3 golf ball? It simply increases the temptation to fetch it.
What's amazing is that someone could be fined for something as minimal as using a 15 foot ball retriever to remove a "foreign" object from a "protected wetland pond" adjacent to a man made golf course, which is one of the most environmentally unfriendly endeavors on the planet. Not that I care about golf courses damaging the environment, but I do hate the state gestapo revenue collectors.
justjim
11-24-2015, 10:32 AM
Its a Holiday week. Visiting children and grandchildren.................you will see more.
Correct. Let's see a show of hands----how many would like to see license plates on golf carts? Looking into Jim's Crystal ball I see 200 in favor and 110,000 saying hell no! :read:
Mleeja
11-24-2015, 12:37 PM
Correct. Let's see a show of hands----how many would like to see license plates on golf carts? Looking into Jim's Crystal ball I see 200 in favor and 110,000 saying hell no! :read:
I would like to see some type of identification on the golf carts. One thing I have expressed before is an RF id similar to the sun pass. Each cart would have a specific ID number. The chip could be built into a small license plate or windshield sticker. The RF id could be transferable if the cart is sold.
Would eliminate the need for the gate card. Could tell who runs into the gates. If you really want to get big brother, could be used to track speeders on the MMPs.
outlaw
11-24-2015, 12:40 PM
Correct. Let's see a show of hands----how many would like to see license plates on golf carts? Looking into Jim's Crystal ball I see 200 in favor and 110,000 saying hell no! :read:
The 200 will show up at a meeting and convince the supervisors that they are the majority.
TNLAKEPANDA
11-24-2015, 12:45 PM
Running a stop sign Not Good. Sometimes people especially new to the Villages get confused or are not paying close attention and find themselves out in circle traffic. It happens. It happened to my neighbor. Once you are there you are kind of stuck and all you can do is get out of there as quick as you can. Be very carful driving in the Villages at all times. Slow down. We have bikes, people walking and golf carts. I see people driving their cars way too fast all the time. I am surprised that there are not more accident than there actually are. Slow down and pay attention.
Chatbrat
11-24-2015, 01:18 PM
Yesterday I saw a golf cart on Bailey Trail, he was heading towards Buena Vista. He went left over the solid white line & passed 3 golf carts in front of him.
The person who had the head on, on the Lake Sumter Bridge-got ticketed- you're not immune if you drive a golf cart.
Sandtrap328
11-24-2015, 01:36 PM
I was out walking the dog last evening in Lynnhaven/Belvedere around 5:00 P.M. and saw what looked like a golf cart with only a passenger on board. I looked at it when it drove by a saw that it was driven by a kid who could barely see over the steering wheel. They stopped at a house a few doors down and out popped the passenger a 30 something female along with the driver who I would have estimated at about eight-ten years old. A young boy.
Why didn't you take that opportunity - since it was only a few houses away - to go introduce yourself, welcome her to the area, and nicely inform her of golf cart rules? She probably would agree with you and say it would not happen again
fred53
11-24-2015, 01:45 PM
Maybe its time for the Villages to come out for some kind of a license plate or ID# for all carts driven in the Villages --the white rental carts have #'s--a while back a cart hit & ran from injuring a bicyclist. This way without anonymity, some of these cart drivers would drive like they really care.
doesn't seem to have made much difference in some folks in their cars. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly sure that autos have license plates.
No your idea won't correct foolish....nothing but an accident might.
village dreamer
11-24-2015, 03:17 PM
Its these young'uns that cause all the problems in TV.:throwtomatoes:
whats a young,un.................under 70??????
outlaw
11-24-2015, 03:39 PM
Why didn't you take that opportunity - since it was only a few houses away - to go introduce yourself, welcome her to the area, and nicely inform her of golf cart rules? She probably would agree with you and say it would not happen again
Or maybe she would have told him to mind his own effing business, slammed the door in his face, and called the sheriff to report a mean old man threatening her...
Villageswimmer
11-24-2015, 06:19 PM
Or maybe she would have told him to mind his own effing business, slammed the door in his face, and called the sheriff to report a mean old man threatening her...
agree. i'd find it quite intimidating (and creepy) if a strange man followed me home in his golf cart even if his intentions were good, which, of course, I wouldn't know.
joldnol
11-24-2015, 06:21 PM
I've watched them do the same thing going from movers to hillsbourgh rather than going to the tunnel
Topspinmo
11-24-2015, 06:30 PM
Well, last evening at sunset out practicing. Noticed noise in the parking lot at one of the rec centers, golf cart doing laps around the parking lot full throttle, twice almost seen it to begin to roll. Two kids in grandpas cart practicing for nascar. Then, they headed for the street and blow through the stop sign onto the street. If I was guessing? Maybe 13 at the most. Brain wise 7.
golfing eagles
11-24-2015, 06:51 PM
Well, last evening at sunset out practicing. Noticed noise in the parking lot at one of the rec centers, golf cart doing laps around the parking lot full throttle, twice almost seen it to begin to roll. Two kids in grandpas cart practicing for nascar. Then, they headed for the street and blow through the stop sign onto the street. If I was guessing? Maybe 13 at the most. Brain wise 7.
More like brain wise 3. Grandpa was 2
Barefoot
11-24-2015, 06:57 PM
I've noticed an increase in unlicensed golf carts zooming across CR 466 and CR 101 without using the tunnels.
Drivers who don't know any better, or golf carts in a hurry? :confused:
Thank you, glad to join you guys. Still need to hunt down BF and collect my lobster!
Judge Mulhbach ruled "Men are from Mars". :evil6:
golfing eagles
11-24-2015, 07:05 PM
I've noticed an increase in unlicensed golf carts zooming across CR 466 and CR 101 without using the tunnels.
Drivers who don't know any better, or golf carts in a hurry? :confused:
Maybe they're in a rush to collect their lobster:1rotfl:
billethkid
11-24-2015, 07:19 PM
I've noticed an increase in unlicensed golf carts zooming across CR 466 and CR 101 without using the tunnels.
Drivers who don't know any better, or golf carts in a hurry? :confused:
Judge Mulhbach ruled "Men are from Mars". :evil6:
Don't be confused it is really fairly easy. Thery are part of that small percentage of residents who know full well what the rules and laws are, but behave in a manner that suggests they are above all that. There are no amount of rules, laws or registrations that will ever affect these knowingly inconsiderate residents!
BobnBev
11-24-2015, 08:40 PM
Why didn't you take that opportunity - since it was only a few houses away - to go introduce yourself, welcome her to the area, and nicely inform her of golf cart rules? She probably would agree with you and say it would not happen again
OR, she would have told you to F...off and mind your own business.:mad::22yikes:
Barefoot
11-24-2015, 08:40 PM
Don't be confused it is really fairly easy. Thery are part of that small percentage of residents who know full well what the rules and laws are, but behave in a manner that suggests they are above all that. There are no amount of rules, laws or registrations that will ever affect these knowingly inconsiderate residents!
You may be right that it's residents, although we all claim to drive sanely and safely.
But surely some of the dangerous drivers are misguided renters.
Does anyone know if the rental company gives renters a "tutorial" before they turn them loose.
Are renters told they must take tunnels under County roads?
Maybe they're in a rush to collect their lobster
They are probably trying to dupe someone into believing they lost a World Series bet when when they clearly won! :throwtomatoes:
kcrazorbackfan
11-24-2015, 08:51 PM
Maybe its time for the Villages to come out for some kind of a license plate or ID# for all carts driven in the Villages --the white rental carts have #'s--a while back a cart hit & ran from injuring a bicyclist. This way without anonymity, some of these cart drivers would drive like they really care.
I second that on the license plates; it's time that some of these numnuts start obeying rules meant for the safety of everyone. :boom: Bring it on.
rubicon
11-25-2015, 05:13 AM
Well....except that there are a lot of renters driving carts belonging to property owners, etc. Not everyone at the wheel owns the cart.
Hi villageswimmer: Agree but then the owner has the ID its no different than renting a car or borrower a car the ID identifies the cart and its owner and not the driver. the driver has his/her own identification a village ID card driver's license
rubicon
11-25-2015, 05:15 AM
Quite a bit off my own topic, but speaking of EP I live on a hole with a protected wetlands pond. The number of golfers who fish for a ball in there, facing a potential $1500 fine is amazing. The DEC officer could hang out on my lanai and greatly increase state revenue. Why even bother looking for a $3 golf ball? It simply increases the temptation to fetch it.
golfing eagles: worse yet once a golf ball taste water it becomes addictive and it won't rest til its back in a pond:D
rubicon
11-25-2015, 05:19 AM
I would like to see some type of identification on the golf carts. One thing I have expressed before is an RF id similar to the sun pass. Each cart would have a specific ID number. The chip could be built into a small license plate or windshield sticker. The RF id could be transferable if the cart is sold.
Would eliminate the need for the gate card. Could tell who runs into the gates. If you really want to get big brother, could be used to track speeders on the MMPs.
Bingo! That's what I told the big guys at the district
golfing eagles
11-25-2015, 06:45 AM
They are probably trying to dupe someone into believing they lost a World Series bet when when they clearly won! :throwtomatoes:
More likely they're on their way to COLLECT their WINNING NLCS bet:1rotfl:
outahere
11-26-2015, 01:03 PM
Just to add another "not so bright" golf cart incident.
Our son is visiting for the holiday and was getting ready to go to bed around midnight last night, in the front bedroom, when he heard a crash outside. He looked out the window and saw a golf cart on its side in the street. He was going to go out and make sure the driver was ok, but as he started to get dressed again he watched the driver right the cart and head off, trailing smoke behind. We live on a cul-de-sac and I'm guessing the driver tried to go around the circle much too fast. He wasn't able to determine if the driver was an adult or a kid, but obviously it was someone who either had too many adult beverages, or someone who doesn't know how to handle a cart - or both!
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