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Guest
11-29-2015, 06:12 AM
Someone suggested I go against the flow of the right wing domination of political TOTV and put my ideas down about Hillary. My pleasure.

1. She is extremely intelligent. Graduated with honors from Yale law school, senior class president at Wellesley.
2. She is very qualified - former first lady, former Senator of NY, former US Secretary of State, named one of the most powerful lawyers in America by National Law Journal.
3. She is committed to causes that better the lives of others - worked on Mondale's committee for migrant workers in 1971; Chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee while husband Bill Clinton was Governor, co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families. Her greatest achievement is the Global Health Initiative designed to improve medical facilities, reduce the spread of HIV, and lower infant and maternal mortality rates.
4. I like her stance on the issues -
Equal rights for gay and lesbians; supports gun control; opposes using "religious freedom" to justify cutting access to healthcare; supports equal rights for women; she's pro choice, pro labor.
5. With her husband Bill Clinton we get two for the price of one. Under his leadership we had the longest period of economic growth in the history of their company. His charisma and ability to work with the opposing political party can only be an asset.
6. If she is president, it means the following won't be:
Trump, Carson, Cruz, Rubio, Bush.

Guest
11-29-2015, 07:20 AM
Someone suggested I go against the flow of the right wing domination of political TOTV and put my ideas down about Hillary. My pleasure.

1. She is extremely intelligent. Graduated with honors from Yale law school, senior class president at Wellesley.
2. She is very qualified - former first lady, former Senator of NY, former US Secretary of State, named one of the most powerful lawyers in America by National Law Journal.
3. She is committed to causes that better the lives of others - worked on Mondale's committee for migrant workers in 1971; Chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee while husband Bill Clinton was Governor, co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families. Her greatest achievement is the Global Health Initiative designed to improve medical facilities, reduce the spread of HIV, and lower infant and maternal mortality rates.
4. I like her stance on the issues -
Equal rights for gay and lesbians; supports gun control; opposes using "religious freedom" to justify cutting access to healthcare; supports equal rights for women; she's pro choice, pro labor.
5. With her husband Bill Clinton we get two for the price of one. Under his leadership we had the longest period of economic growth in the history of their company. His charisma and ability to work with the opposing political party can only be an asset.
6. If she is president, it means the following won't be:
Trump, Carson, Cruz, Rubio, Bush.

For me the problem is that I want my President to be honest and she is not.

"The late Christopher Hitchens titled his memoir of the Whitewater/Monica Lewinsky circus “No One Left to Lie To,” but even someone as perceptive as Hitch couldn’t foresee that the Clintons, like cockroaches and the Kardashians, would always be with us, forever playing the same shell game on the American people and laughing as we fall for it.

That would be the same Clintons (combined current net worth: $101 million) who were “dead broke” when they left the White House."

Hillary Clinton’s million little lies | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2015/11/28/hillary-clintons-million-little-lies/)

Websites AND books dedicated to her and her husbands out and out lies, NONE ever debunked.

Guest
11-29-2015, 07:47 AM
For me the problem is that I want my President to be honest and she is not.

"The late Christopher Hitchens titled his memoir of the Whitewater/Monica Lewinsky circus “No One Left to Lie To,” but even someone as perceptive as Hitch couldn’t foresee that the Clintons, like cockroaches and the Kardashians, would always be with us, forever playing the same shell game on the American people and laughing as we fall for it.

That would be the same Clintons (combined current net worth: $101 million) who were “dead broke” when they left the White House."

[url=http://nypost.com/2015/11/28/hillary-clintons-million-little-lies/]Hillary Clinton’s million little lies | New

Websites AND books dedicated to her and her husbands out and out lies, NONE ever debunked.


So which of the Republican candidates do you consider honest?

Guest
11-29-2015, 08:29 AM
Someone suggested I go against the flow of the right wing domination of political TOTV and put my ideas down about Hillary. My pleasure.

1. She is extremely intelligent. Graduated with honors from Yale law school, senior class president at Wellesley.
2. She is very qualified - former first lady, former Senator of NY, former US Secretary of State, named one of the most powerful lawyers in America by National Law Journal.
3. She is committed to causes that better the lives of others - worked on Mondale's committee for migrant workers in 1971; Chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee while husband Bill Clinton was Governor, co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families. Her greatest achievement is the Global Health Initiative designed to improve medical facilities, reduce the spread of HIV, and lower infant and maternal mortality rates.
4. I like her stance on the issues -
Equal rights for gay and lesbians; supports gun control; opposes using "religious freedom" to justify cutting access to healthcare; supports equal rights for women; she's pro choice, pro labor.
5. With her husband Bill Clinton we get two for the price of one. Under his leadership we had the longest period of economic growth in the history of their company. His charisma and ability to work with the opposing political party can only be an asset.
6. If she is president, it means the following won't be:
Trump, Carson, Cruz, Rubio, Bush.

You forgot~

7. She and the other Democrats are willing to spend spend spend and continue to spiral the National Debt to economic destroying levels.
8. She is politically savy enough to realize if you give enough "Free Stuff" to un-motivated people you will inherit their minds an most importantly votes.

What would define an intelligent President is one that could balace the budget and motivate our corporations to remain in the USA with tax insentives not strong arm tactics, thus creating US jobs. A President that could motivate our citizens to work hard and create their own lifstyle, not one fabricated by sharing my lifestyle accomplishments with them because they are intelligent and able to work, but instead choose not to. Whatever you may think of all the candidates on both sides and if you believe in #7 & #8 Hillary will not take us in that direction.

Guest
11-29-2015, 08:41 AM
You forgot~

7. She and the other Democrats are willing to spend spend spend and continue to spiral the National Debt to economic destroying levels.
8. She is politically savy enough to realize if you give enough "Free Stuff" to un-motivated people you will inherit their minds an most importantly votes.

What would define an intelligent President is one that could balace the budget and motivate our corporations to remain in the USA with tax insentives not strong arm tactics, thus creating US jobs. A President that could motivate our citizens to work hard and create their own lifstyle, not one fabricated by sharing my lifestyle accomplishments with them because they are intelligent and able to work, but instead choose not to. Whatever you may think of all the candidates on both sides and if you believe in #7 & #8 Hillary will not take us in that direction.


Trump wants to create what looks like a huge wall on the border with Mexico, bolster a military to the point that "no one will ever mess with us", and have a vast bureaucracy to deal with the Immigration problem. Where does the money for this vast Federal Government come from?

Do US Presidents stay honest under the pressure of all the conflicting interests thrown at them? I will bet that if you investigate Abraham Lincoln even that great man hedged the facts to get through the problems of the Civil War.

I will have to watch the debates very carefully though to see who has the best chance of dealing with all the problems this country now has. Donald Trump seems to be the worst of the possibilities right now. We will see what happens though.

I am not a big Clinton fan of either Hillary nor of Bill Clinton but if they are the best the US have to offer for that very difficult job of the US President.

Guest
11-29-2015, 08:50 AM
Even though I consider bother Sanders and Shrilary to be Anti-American, if given only the choice of the two to vote for, I would choose Sanders. I wouldn't vote for a scumbag like shrilary if she was running against Putin. As a matter of fact, I would even deport her from America if given the option.

She is a liar
She is an accessory to murder
She is a national security threat
She treats her staff terrible
She is a thief
And she cheats on her taxes.

Those are just a few general reasons NOT to vote for her.

Guest
11-29-2015, 09:12 AM
The Fox networks, including their stars like Hannity and O'Rielly, have made a great deal on money pandering to the Flat Earth Society during the Obama presidency. My guess is when they get behind the voting booth curtain they will be checking the box next to Hillary's name. Another reason Hillary should be president. IMO

Guest
11-29-2015, 10:57 AM
It is obvious some believe what the party hands out.

She is not a credible person.
Because she was a senator and secretary of stae and first lady are not qualifiers especially when she never did any one of those assignments with any credibility. She took up space.

Extremely difficult for her to over come who and what she is.
Not credible.
Compulsive liar.
Dishonest.
Self centered.
Full blooded crony politician.
Has never demonstrated any desire to help we the people.
Is notoriously disrespectful of the military and the secret saervice.

Her background is seriously testimony to why she should in no way be even nominated for POTUS. The democratic party has not done itself any good what so ever being bamboozeled by the Clinton mafia into getting cornered with her as their choice.

Guest
11-29-2015, 12:11 PM
The Fox networks, including their stars like Hannity and O'Rielly, have made a great deal on money pandering to the Flat Earth Society during the Obama presidency. My guess is when they get behind the voting booth curtain they will be checking the box next to Hillary's name. Another reason Hillary should be president. IMO

You are sure scared of FOX. And yet, you liberals are instrumental in making it the best rated cable news network in the world. And yet, you still have no answer as to why anyone in their RIGHT mind would vote for Shrilary. Common sense and logic seem to elude you. Either that or you just enjoy trolling and baiting the adults. Let me guess, you voted for Obama? Or, were you of age to vote then?

Guest
11-29-2015, 12:13 PM
Someone actually gave as one of her qualifications, that she was once first lady? I wonder if you think that Monica would be better qualified, since she was way more intimate with Billy boy than Hilary.

Guest
11-29-2015, 03:15 PM
I can see this has really started a discussion of the issues. Hmmm.

Guest
11-29-2015, 03:41 PM
I can see this has really started a discussion of the issues. Hmmm.

What is there to discuss? Either you think that she is the best choice as our next President or you don't. By now everyone should know her record of accomplishments or lack thereof.

Guest
11-29-2015, 06:20 PM
What is there to discuss? Either you think that she is the best choice as our next President or you don't. By now everyone should know her record of accomplishments or lack thereof.

Remember the word accomplishments works in many directions.
For example she is most definitely an accompished liar.
An accomplished phony.

Guest
11-29-2015, 06:29 PM
And she will be an accomplished President, assuming Trump gets the nomination. Keeping our fingers crossed.

Guest
11-29-2015, 06:31 PM
It is obvious some believe what the party hands out.

She is not a credible person.
Because she was a senator and secretary of stae and first lady are not qualifiers especially when she never did any one of those assignments with any credibility. She took up space.

Extremely difficult for her to over come who and what she is.
Not credible.
Compulsive liar.
Dishonest.
Self centered.
Full blooded crony politician.
Has never demonstrated any desire to help we the people.
Is notoriously disrespectful of the military and the secret saervice.

Her background is seriously testimony to why she should in no way be even nominated for POTUS. The democratic party has not done itself any good what so ever being bamboozeled by the Clinton mafia into getting cornered with her as their choice.

Please give some specific and cited examples of that of which you speak.

Guest
11-29-2015, 06:48 PM
Please give some specific and cited examples of that of which you speak.

I counted approx 5 lies in the link below.......all validated..

Hillary Clinton’s million little lies | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2015/11/28/hillary-clintons-million-little-lies/)

All False statements involving Hillary Clinton | PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/statements/byruling/false/)

ANDREW NAPOLITANO: Hillary Clinton lied about role in ousting Moammar Gadhafi - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/28/andrew-napolitano-hillary-clinton-lied-about-role-/)

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/campaigns-elections/hillary-clinton-lies/

https://reason.com/archives/2015/09/30/hillary-clintons-transparent-lies

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/hillary.asp

This is simply a few and here are just a sampling of the books that cover her problem with the truth

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/american-evita-christopher-andersen/1100609594/2672613830602?st=PLA&sid=BNB_DRS_Marketplace+Shopping+greatbookprices_0 0000000&2sid=Google_&sourceId=PLGoP24106&k_clickid=3x24106

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/diary-of-hillarys-right-wing-conspirator-mike-wiley/1121764610?ean=9781425906597&st=PLA&sid=BNB_DRS_Core+Shopping+Books_00000000&2sid=Google_&sourceId=PLGoP547&k_clickid=3x547

A youtube video on lying by Hillary Clinton....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbnKGopT0Uc

Now in addition there are a number of books going back to Arkansas that cover Whitewater, etc. If you need any more, there are tons more.

Guest
11-29-2015, 07:18 PM
And she will be an accomplished President, assuming Trump gets the nomination. Keeping our fingers crossed.

IF elected, she will probably be as accomplished as Obama - long on rhetoric and short on results.

Guest
11-29-2015, 07:22 PM
And she will be an accomplished President, assuming Trump gets the nomination. Keeping our fingers crossed.

I doubt she would be miscategorized as an accomplished president if elected. She was a SecState, but she was NOT an accomplished SecState.

Interesting that anyone with any decency or sense of morals or ethics would vote for her. It just points out the flaw in the character of many ignorant voters.

Guest
11-29-2015, 07:24 PM
Please give some specific and cited examples of that of which you speak.

If you need examples, you are not a very knowledgeable citizen. Anyone that has ever watched the news in recent years, decades knows how flawed she is and how many lies she has perpetrated.

Guest
11-29-2015, 07:50 PM
IF elected, she will probably be as accomplished as Obama - long on rhetoric and short on results.

:thumbup:

Guest
11-29-2015, 08:13 PM
If she wins she should have Monica as VP. Keep it all in the family and slick Willie occupied playing with his cigars. "Stand by your man" no matter how many times he cheats on you! this is the best liberal democrat party got to offer.

Guest
11-29-2015, 08:18 PM
If she wins she should have Monica as VP. Keep it all in the family and slick Willie occupied playing with his cigars. "Stand by your man" no matter how many times he cheats on you! this is the best liberal democrat party got to offer.

Maybe they could get Tony Weiner in the position of the Internet czar.

Does the Democrat party have no pride at all, that they would support scum like the Clintons?

Guest
11-30-2015, 04:55 AM
Someone suggested I go against the flow of the right wing domination of political TOTV and put my ideas down about Hillary. My pleasure.

1. She is extremely intelligent. Graduated with honors from Yale law school, senior class president at Wellesley.
2. She is very qualified - former first lady, former Senator of NY, former US Secretary of State, named one of the most powerful lawyers in America by National Law Journal.
3. She is committed to causes that better the lives of others - worked on Mondale's committee for migrant workers in 1971; Chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee while husband Bill Clinton was Governor, co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families. Her greatest achievement is the Global Health Initiative designed to improve medical facilities, reduce the spread of HIV, and lower infant and maternal mortality rates.
4. I like her stance on the issues -
Equal rights for gay and lesbians; supports gun control; opposes using "religious freedom" to justify cutting access to healthcare; supports equal rights for women; she's pro choice, pro labor.
5. With her husband Bill Clinton we get two for the price of one. Under his leadership we had the longest period of economic growth in the history of their company. His charisma and ability to work with the opposing political party can only be an asset.
6. If she is president, it means the following won't be:
Trump, Carson, Cruz, Rubio, Bush.

Dear Guest:

First --just exactly who suggested you go against the flow?

Secondly-- Jimmy Carter was the most intelligent of all presidents and look where that got us.

Third-- While Hillary's educational achievements are impressive as a lawyer she too often used her education for nefarious purposes such as Whitewater

Fourth-- We can lump most of her charitable work as schemes to enrich her and her husband ( ie work in Haiti Clinton Charitable foundation)

Fifth-- As to the issues she support any cause that would give her a vote irrespective of the affect it would have on the country. Each of these issues deserves separate discussion in other threads. Also remember in politics there is a quid pro quo arrangement...I'll say nice things about you if you support my cause...........ad nauseam

Sixth-- As Senator McClair (sp) said she'd keep her daughter far from Billy and recall billy did well with the economy because he had a Republican Congress

Seventh-- I suggest that the worst of the Republican candidates far exceeds the performance of Obama and if elected we only get 4 more years of misguided policies

So if someone really did suggest you go with the flow it was ill advised IMHO.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
11-30-2015, 06:43 AM
Dear Guest:

First --just exactly who suggested you go against the flow?

Secondly-- Jimmy Carter was the most intelligent of all presidents and look where that got us.

Third-- While Hillary's educational achievements are impressive as a lawyer she too often used her education for nefarious purposes such as Whitewater

Fourth-- We can lump most of her charitable work as schemes to enrich her and her husband ( ie work in Haiti Clinton Charitable foundation)

Fifth-- As to the issues she support any cause that would give her a vote irrespective of the affect it would have on the country. Each of these issues deserves separate discussion in other threads. Also remember in politics there is a quid pro quo arrangement...I'll say nice things about you if you support my cause...........ad nauseam

Sixth-- As Senator McClair (sp) said she'd keep her daughter far from Billy and recall billy did well with the economy because he had a Republican Congress

Seventh-- I suggest that the worst of the Republican candidates far exceeds the performance of Obama and if elected we only get 4 more years of misguided policies

So if someone really did suggest you go with the flow it was ill advised IMHO.

Personal Best Regards:

So so another words you're saying that you don't want people posting on the Forum that do not agree with you. That would of course, preclude any meaningful discussion of the issues. Sorry Rubicon, that's just not going to happen . I'm going to make it my mission to post a lot of pro democratic stuff on here. I'm sure it will keep your folks all riled up, but you might as well get used to it because you know you're going to be having another Democratic president anyways.

Best regards.

Guest
11-30-2015, 06:50 AM
If she gets elected I hope there is no wall stopping our exit to Mexico. If its the Donald it will be Huugghh. We remember the reports of celebrations in Paterson NJ with absolute certainty. We do not remember any in Jersey City NJ.

Guest
11-30-2015, 07:21 AM
If she wins she should have Monica as VP. Keep it all in the family and slick Willie occupied playing with his cigars. "Stand by your man" no matter how many times he cheats on you! this is the best liberal democrat party got to offer.

I thought you were describing "The Donald" and his cheating ways and failed marriages. And this is the best conservative republican party got to offer.

Guest
11-30-2015, 07:46 AM
I thought you were describing "The Donald" and his cheating ways and failed marriages. And this is the best conservative republican party got to offer.

You are delusional. Donald not politician holding office. Was he a democrat when he was billie boy twin. Plus Donald wife's left him. Amazing how liberal mine works!

Guest
11-30-2015, 08:56 AM
The short answer to the title of the thread is: There is no reason that Hilary should be president. She shouldn't.

Guest
11-30-2015, 11:18 AM
Someone suggested I go against the flow of the right wing domination of political TOTV and put my ideas down about Hillary. My pleasure.

1. She is extremely intelligent. Graduated with honors from Yale law school, senior class president at Wellesley.
2. She is very qualified - former first lady, former Senator of NY, former US Secretary of State, named one of the most powerful lawyers in America by National Law Journal.
3. She is committed to causes that better the lives of others - worked on Mondale's committee for migrant workers in 1971; Chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee while husband Bill Clinton was Governor, co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families. Her greatest achievement is the Global Health Initiative designed to improve medical facilities, reduce the spread of HIV, and lower infant and maternal mortality rates.
4. I like her stance on the issues -
Equal rights for gay and lesbians; supports gun control; opposes using "religious freedom" to justify cutting access to healthcare; supports equal rights for women; she's pro choice, pro labor.
5. With her husband Bill Clinton we get two for the price of one. Under his leadership we had the longest period of economic growth in the history of their company. His charisma and ability to work with the opposing political party can only be an asset.
6. If she is president, it means the following won't be:
Trump, Carson, Cruz, Rubio, Bush.

7. She graciously and unselfishly shares the fruit of her husbands loins with so many other women.

Guest
11-30-2015, 11:20 AM
7. She graciously and unselfishly shares the fruit of her husbands loins with so many other women.

suggested edit......."...with so many other YOUNGER women..."

Guest
11-30-2015, 11:26 AM
suggested edit......."...with so many other YOUNGER women..."

I am sure that "younger" is a granted. Not too many OLDER than her. :a20:

Guest
11-30-2015, 06:48 PM
So so another words you're saying that you don't want people posting on the Forum that do not agree with you. That would of course, preclude any meaningful discussion of the issues. Sorry Rubicon, that's just not going to happen . I'm going to make it my mission to post a lot of pro democratic stuff on here. I'm sure it will keep your folks all riled up, but you might as well get used to it because you know you're going to be having another Democratic president anyways.

Best regards.
I'm not sure you know who posts what but please keep names off this forum. there is no need to do that. Seeing it is not for intelligent dialog is why it is anonymous.

Guest
11-30-2015, 07:22 PM
So so another words you're saying that you don't want people posting on the Forum that do not agree with you. That would of course, preclude any meaningful discussion of the issues. Sorry Rubicon, that's just not going to happen . I'm going to make it my mission to post a lot of pro democratic stuff on here. a revelation!! I'm sure it will keep your folks all riled up, but you might as well get used to it because you know you're going to be having another Democratic president anyways.

Best regards.

Is it the medical marhiuana or the XXX kool aide??

Guest
12-01-2015, 01:34 AM
I live in NYS and she was an awful Senator. Accomplished NOTHING.

Guest
12-01-2015, 04:38 AM
I live in NYS and she was an awful Senator. Accomplished NOTHING.

Not a surprise. Believe it or not the only reason anyone remembers her working at the State Dept is her screw up with Benghazi. Otherwise, all she did was travel on the taxpayers dime more than anyone else. I bet there is not very many folks that realize how much that cost. It is not the transportation so much as all the support required and preparation at each post. I've had to deal with it in the past with Colin Powell so I know a bit of what is involved. The Clintons are a leach on society.

Guest
12-01-2015, 07:32 PM
Not a surprise. Believe it or not the only reason anyone remembers her working at the State Dept is her screw up with Benghazi. Otherwise, all she did was travel on the taxpayers dime more than anyone else. I bet there is not very many folks that realize how much that cost. It is not the transportation so much as all the support required and preparation at each post. I've had to deal with it in the past with Colin Powell so I know a bit of what is involved. The Clintons are a leach on society.

The dems have allowed their party first no matter what attitude get themselves painted into a corner. All it would take is one reasonably good candidate who is not afraid to run against her and go after her the way she needs to be gouged and exposed.

I still have no understanding why so many supposedly intelligent people continue to back a notorious, known liar and loser like her. Just do not understand it!

Guest
12-02-2015, 09:00 AM
You are sure scared of FOX. And yet, you liberals are instrumental in making it the best rated cable news network in the world. And yet, you still have no answer as to why anyone in their RIGHT mind would vote for Shrilary. Common sense and logic seem to elude you. Either that or you just enjoy trolling and baiting the adults. Let me guess, you voted for Obama? Or, were you of age to vote then?

You geezers are so scared that Hillary will get to be President that you come up with all the fairy tales about her and use little snippets out of context for your proof.

Get over it! You geezers are not relevant anymore. You are not the greatest generation. Those have all about died off. Your sunset years have left most of you with your caretaker emptying your drool cups and changing your Depends.

Oh, remember that the electoral college votes for Florida will go Democrat. You may as well stay home on Election Day.

Guest
12-02-2015, 09:55 AM
You geezers are so scared that Hillary will get to be President that you come up with all the fairy tales about her and use little snippets out of context for your proof.

Get over it! You geezers are not relevant anymore. You are not the greatest generation. Those have all about died off. Your sunset years have left most of you with your caretaker emptying your drool cups and changing your Depends.

Oh, remember that the electoral college votes for Florida will go Democrat. You may as well stay home on Election Day.

With your head lodged where it is the only view available is through the belly button!

Guest
12-02-2015, 11:51 AM
You geezers are so scared that Hillary will get to be President that you come up with all the fairy tales about her and use little snippets out of context for your proof.

Get over it! You geezers are not relevant anymore. You are not the greatest generation. Those have all about died off. Your sunset years have left most of you with your caretaker emptying your drool cups and changing your Depends.

Oh, remember that the electoral college votes for Florida will go Democrat. You may as well stay home on Election Day.

Jan, Jan, Jan. Tsk Tsk !!

Guest
12-02-2015, 01:58 PM
You geezers are so scared that Hillary will get to be President that you come up with all the fairy tales about her and use little snippets out of context for your proof.

Get over it! You geezers are not relevant anymore. You are not the greatest generation. Those have all about died off. Your sunset years have left most of you with your caretaker emptying your drool cups and changing your Depends.

Oh, remember that the electoral college votes for Florida will go Democrat. You may as well stay home on Election Day.

Hah! At least we can afford it. Let's see if your generation will ever have the ability to retire in comfort. I guess the joke's on you, child. And your retirement age is what???? 67? Do I hear 70, or how about 75. I will wave to you as my boat pulls out of dock once more on the way to the Caribbean, or South America or maybe even Europe. But you can travel also. Just join the military and see the world....ha,ha.

Guest
12-02-2015, 02:01 PM
The only way Shrilary will be president is if Obama gives her a presidential pardon for the felonies she has committed. I wonder if she is still on probably for stealing the china and silverware from the White House when she left.

Guest
12-02-2015, 03:20 PM
The only way Shrilary will be president is if Obama gives her a presidential pardon for the felonies she has committed. I wonder if she is still on probation for stealing the china and silverware from the White House when she left.

Guest
12-02-2015, 03:23 PM
Main reason Hillary should be elected is so she can pardon herself for all her recent and past criminal activity. She could also throw a pardon in for Bill if so inclined. Also Chelsea who has surely crossed the line in her duties at the Clinton Criminal Initiative. I think no pardons for the Huma Abedins' of the world, list getting too long. Besides, they are only useful idiots. Always plenty of those available.

Guest
12-02-2015, 04:14 PM
Main reason Hillary should be elected is so she can pardon herself for all her recent and past criminal activity. She could also throw a pardon in for Bill if so inclined. Also Chelsea who has surely crossed the line in her duties at the Clinton Criminal Initiative. I think no pardons for the Huma Abedins' of the world, list getting too long. Besides, they are only useful idiots. Always plenty of those available.

:beer3:

Guest
12-03-2015, 06:04 AM
I look at all the good things Hillary Clinton has accomplished in service to America and compare it with Trump, and there is no comparison. Trump is an embarrassment, an egotistical bully and overt racist. He clearly hates women and minorities and even mocks the disabled. I can't imagine who would vote for that kind of person, unless you admire those qualities.

Guest
12-03-2015, 06:56 AM
I look at all the good things Hillary Clinton has accomplished in service to America and compare it with Trump, and there is no comparison. Trump is an embarrassment, an egotistical bully and overt racist. He clearly hates women and minorities and even mocks the disabled. I can't imagine who would vote for that kind of person, unless you admire those qualities.


Now, that is just hilarious. Tooo Funny! She is just as bad a disgraces as Obama, and that's saying something. She has done NOTHING good or accomplished NOTHING in service to America. At the very least Trump has created thousands of jobs. I don't personally care for Trump but I would not even think twice about voting for him over Clinton (either one of them) if the only choice was between Trump and Clinton. Clinton is despicable to put it mildly. The Clintons hate the military so why would they wish to be in command of them? Nope, my wish is for her to get what should be coming to her, jail time. She deserves to go to jail for jeopardizing national security and being culpable in the Benghazi cover up of the death of our patriots.

Guest
12-03-2015, 07:55 AM
Nothing good? You must be living in an alternate reality. Hilary Clinton's contributions to American society as a woman are many, but the overall theme of her efforts is that she has continued to stay involved in the great issues of her time, despite setbacks and criticism of her actions. Throughout her life, she has been a strong advocate for women, children and families. As Senator she has sponsored such measures as the Best Pharmaceuticals for Children Act, to ensure the safety of prescription drugs for children; she has worked to increase provisions in the Children's Health Insurance Program, to help schools address environmental hazards; and she has introduced legislation to help recruit and retain nurses, to fight AIDS and to expand the use of medical technology.

Hilary Clinton demonstrated her committment to public service soon after becoming a lawyer. She served as head of the American Bar Association Committee on Women in the Profession. She was also Chair of the Board of the Children's Defense Fund, a national advocacy group for the interests of children, from 1986-1991. As first lady of Arkansas and of the U.S., she showed that these positions could be more than ceremonial. She headed a commission in Arkansas which expanded and reformed education throughout the state. As the U.S. First Lady, she led efforts to make adoption easier for families, to provide more money for breast cancer research and to increase health care and employment opportunities for women.

She achieved worldwide recognition as the keynote speaker at the United Nations Fifth International Conference on Women, in Beijing China. Her speech on behalf of the global rights of women caused some controversy because it insisted that women should have the same basic rights, no matter where they lived and this was a new U.S. policy position. These were among the awards she received as First Lady: the Elie Wiesel Foundation Humanitarian Award; the Martin Luther King Jr. Award; Family Circle Woman Who Makes a Difference Lifetime Achievement Award; National Federation of Black Women Business Owners, Black Women of Courage Award; National Association of Elementary School Principals Distinguished Service Award; Save the Children Distinguished Service Award, The National Council for Adoption, "For advocacy on behalf of adoption"; Henrietta Szold Award, Hadassah; and the Irish American Peace Prize.

As U.S. Senator, she has also been recognized for her efforts on behalf of the U.S. military. She has received the Secretary of Defense Medal for Outstanding Public Service, United States Department of Defense and the Military Order of the Purple Heart. She is the first New York Senator to serve on the Armed Services Committee, and she was asked by the Department of Defense to serve as the only Senate member of the Transformation Advisory Group to the Joint Forces Command, in 2004.

Guest
12-03-2015, 08:04 AM
Nothing good? You must be living in an alternate reality. Hilary Clinton's contributions to American society as a woman are many, but the overall theme of her efforts is that she has continued to stay involved in the great issues of her time, despite setbacks and criticism of her actions. Throughout her life, she has been a strong advocate for women, children and families. As Senator she has sponsored such measures as the Best Pharmaceuticals for Children Act, to ensure the safety of prescription drugs for children; she has worked to increase provisions in the Children's Health Insurance Program, to help schools address environmental hazards; and she has introduced legislation to help recruit and retain nurses, to fight AIDS and to expand the use of medical technology.

Hilary Clinton demonstrated her committment to public service soon after becoming a lawyer. She served as head of the American Bar Association Committee on Women in the Profession. She was also Chair of the Board of the Children's Defense Fund, a national advocacy group for the interests of children, from 1986-1991. As first lady of Arkansas and of the U.S., she showed that these positions could be more than ceremonial. She headed a commission in Arkansas which expanded and reformed education throughout the state. As the U.S. First Lady, she led efforts to make adoption easier for families, to provide more money for breast cancer research and to increase health care and employment opportunities for women.

She achieved worldwide recognition as the keynote speaker at the United Nations Fifth International Conference on Women, in Beijing China. Her speech on behalf of the global rights of women caused some controversy because it insisted that women should have the same basic rights, no matter where they lived and this was a new U.S. policy position. These were among the awards she received as First Lady: the Elie Wiesel Foundation Humanitarian Award; the Martin Luther King Jr. Award; Family Circle Woman Who Makes a Difference Lifetime Achievement Award; National Federation of Black Women Business Owners, Black Women of Courage Award; National Association of Elementary School Principals Distinguished Service Award; Save the Children Distinguished Service Award, The National Council for Adoption, "For advocacy on behalf of adoption"; Henrietta Szold Award, Hadassah; and the Irish American Peace Prize.

As U.S. Senator, she has also been recognized for her efforts on behalf of the U.S. military. She has received the Secretary of Defense Medal for Outstanding Public Service, United States Department of Defense and the Military Order of the Purple Heart. She is the first New York Senator to serve on the Armed Services Committee, and she was asked by the Department of Defense to serve as the only Senate member of the Transformation Advisory Group to the Joint Forces Command, in 2004.
Informative post. I can hear heads exploding.

Guest
12-03-2015, 08:18 AM
Informative post. I can hear heads exploding.

Why do you say that? That post is nothing but fluff.

Guest
12-03-2015, 08:26 AM
Nothing good? You must be living in an alternate reality. Hilary Clinton's contributions to American society as a woman are many, but the overall theme of her efforts is that she has continued to stay involved in the great issues of her time, despite setbacks and criticism of her actions. Throughout her life, she has been a strong advocate for women, children and families. As Senator she has sponsored such measures as the Best Pharmaceuticals for Children Act, to ensure the safety of prescription drugs for children; she has worked to increase provisions in the Children's Health Insurance Program, to help schools address environmental hazards; and she has introduced legislation to help recruit and retain nurses, to fight AIDS and to expand the use of medical technology.

Hilary Clinton demonstrated her committment to public service soon after becoming a lawyer. She served as head of the American Bar Association Committee on Women in the Profession. She was also Chair of the Board of the Children's Defense Fund, a national advocacy group for the interests of children, from 1986-1991. As first lady of Arkansas and of the U.S., she showed that these positions could be more than ceremonial. She headed a commission in Arkansas which expanded and reformed education throughout the state. As the U.S. First Lady, she led efforts to make adoption easier for families, to provide more money for breast cancer research and to increase health care and employment opportunities for women.

She achieved worldwide recognition as the keynote speaker at the United Nations Fifth International Conference on Women, in Beijing China. Her speech on behalf of the global rights of women caused some controversy because it insisted that women should have the same basic rights, no matter where they lived and this was a new U.S. policy position. These were among the awards she received as First Lady: the Elie Wiesel Foundation Humanitarian Award; the Martin Luther King Jr. Award; Family Circle Woman Who Makes a Difference Lifetime Achievement Award; National Federation of Black Women Business Owners, Black Women of Courage Award; National Association of Elementary School Principals Distinguished Service Award; Save the Children Distinguished Service Award, The National Council for Adoption, "For advocacy on behalf of adoption"; Henrietta Szold Award, Hadassah; and the Irish American Peace Prize.

As U.S. Senator, she has also been recognized for her efforts on behalf of the U.S. military. She has received the Secretary of Defense Medal for Outstanding Public Service, United States Department of Defense and the Military Order of the Purple Heart. She is the first New York Senator to serve on the Armed Services Committee, and she was asked by the Department of Defense to serve as the only Senate member of the Transformation Advisory Group to the Joint Forces Command, in 2004.

Lots of fluff. Now, what did she really do to contribute to anything? She has done more damage than good, that's for sure and fact. Anyone can write fluff for an employment evaluation. That's like saying, "He doesn't know his job but he is a good guy." Even that would be false in her case.

And I don't know who you think you are fooling, with her receiving a Purple Heart. A Purple Heart is awarded to wounded warriors for combat related injuries.

What you wrote is equivalent to saying she was vice president of the college book club. Nothing to brag about, just filler for a resume'.

Guest
12-03-2015, 08:46 AM
Failed the D.C. bar exam

Chronic liar - Sniper fire in Bosnia. Named after Sir Edmund Hillary, the first person to reach Mount Everest’s summit. However, he did not do so until 6 years after Clinton was born

Flip-flopper - Gay marriage, Cuban embargo, Iraq, drivers license to illegals

Economically Illiterate

Anti-civil liberties - voted for Patriot Act

Scandals - Whitewater, Travelgate, Filegate

Guest
12-03-2015, 09:39 AM
Why do you say that? That post is nothing but fluff.


The title of this thread the is why Hillary should be President. Most posts are venting the opposite. Any positive side of a t chart sets off the usual repetitive derision.

Guest
12-03-2015, 09:59 AM
The title of this thread the is why Hillary should be President. Most posts are venting the opposite. Any positive side of a t chart sets off the usual repetitive derision.

We await the first positive review of a non positive worthy subject!

Guest
12-03-2015, 12:05 PM
Lots of fluff. Now, what did she really do to contribute to anything? She has done more damage than good, that's for sure and fact. Anyone can write fluff for an employment evaluation. That's like saying, "He doesn't know his job but he is a good guy." Even that would be false in her case.

And I don't know who you think you are fooling, with her receiving a Purple Heart. A Purple Heart is awarded to wounded warriors for combat related injuries.

What you wrote is equivalent to saying she was vice president of the college book club. Nothing to brag about, just filler for a resume'.

No one said she received a Purple Heart. Take another look. The Military Order of the Purple Heart is a veterans service organization. And here is some more "fluff". I'm sure you called it fluff because it had to do with women and children. Maybe you would find her service to our veterans more unfluffy.

Passed legislation helping families care for veterans with traumatic brain injuries or post-traumatic stress disorder. Hillary Clinton introduced the Heroes at Home Act of 2006 to help family members care for veterans that return home with post-traumatic stress disorder or traumatic brain injuries. Clinton successfully fought to include an important part of that bill — funding for community-based programs that provide readjustment and mental health assistance to National Guard members, Reservists, and their families – into the Department of Defense Appropriations bill enacted in September, 2006. With the help of the Wounded Warrior Project, the National Military Family Association, the Military Officers Association of America, and the American Academy of Neurology, Clinton introduced the Heroes at Home Act of 2007 to build on that previous work.

Worked to increase the survivor benefits for military families from $12,000 to $100,000. Hillary Clinton worked with Republicans and Democrats in the U.S. Senate to try to increase the benefits to family survivors of our nation’s veterans. Clinton joined with then-Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) on the Military Survivor Benefit Improvement Act of 2005. Remarking on the importance of the bill, Clinton said America owes “our young men and women in uniform a tremendous debt of gratitude and they should rest assure that if something happens to them on the front lines, their families will be taken care of financially. This bill will ensure that our service members’ next-to-kin receive the benefits they deserve.”

Teamed up with Republicans to expand health care for National Guard members and reservists. Hillary Clinton worked with Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) to provide full military health benefits to National Guard members and reservists. Clinton noted that she and Graham worked for four years on that mission, even though “many people thought I would never talk to Lindsey Graham, let alone work with him… So Senator Graham and I said we’re going to make sure that if you’re a National Guard or Reserve member, you will have access to health care and you’ll be part of this great American military from the very beginning. We will take care of you and your families.” Senator Graham praised Clinton’s “longstanding commitment to ensuring that members of our National Guard and Reserve and their families have access to the health care benefits they need and deserve.”

Authored a new G.I. Bill of Rights to help veterans adjust and re-enter the workforce after deployment. Hillary Clinton introduced the 21st Century G.I. Bill of Rights to help veterans achieve their American dream through educational opportunities, a new veteran-specific micro-loan program, and an expanded home loan program. Clinton said she took “tremendous personal pride in the fact that the VFW has endorsed” the legislative package. Describing the new G.I. Bill of Rights, Clinton said it “provides educational opportunities – from college, to trade and technical training, to certification and licensing programs. It expands opportunities for veterans to buy, build, repair and improve their homes. It creates a Veterans Micro-loaning Program to provide loans up to $100,000 at very low interest rates and without collateral, so that veterans can start their own small businesses.”

Fought to expand retirement pay and disability compensation for veterans disabled during their service. Hillary Clinton cosponsored the Retired Pay Restoration Act of 2001, 2003, 2005, and 2007. This legislation sought to expand retirement pay and disability compensation for all of America’s veterans disabled in the service of their country.

Expanded the Family and Medical Leave Act to families of wounded service members. The defense authorization bill enacted in 2008 included legislation introduced by Senator Chris Dodd and Senator Clinton to allow families of wounded service members to take up to six months unpaid leave to care for their wounded family member. Clinton cosponsored similar legislation in 2003 and 2005.

Guest
12-03-2015, 12:11 PM
And how have the Republican candidates fared towards veterans?

Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz voted to block further action on a bill that would have enhanced benefits for veterans including guaranteeing in-state tuition rates at all public universities for post-9/11 veterans.

Marco Rubio voted against providing $27 million for the Veterans Health Administration, as part of a $50.5 billion Superstorm Sandy recovery package.

Ben Carson questioned whether “we even need” the VA system.

Guest
12-03-2015, 01:15 PM
As senator, Hillary only had three of her sponsored bills passed as law and none of them had anything to do with Veterans.

As far as the Veterans jobs act is concerned, a new bill is passed related to Veterans jobs acts EVERY time elections get close.

Like every other senator, Hillary spoke a lot, but accomplished little. Only three bills passed. Not that great of a record, I think.

Guest
12-03-2015, 01:21 PM
No one said she received a Purple Heart. Take another look. The Military Order of the Purple Heart is a veterans service organization. And here is some more "fluff". I'm sure you called it fluff because it had to do with women and children. Maybe you would find her service to our veterans more unfluffy.

Passed legislation helping families care for veterans with traumatic brain injuries or post-traumatic stress disorder. Hillary Clinton introduced the Heroes at Home Act of 2006 to help family members care for veterans that return home with post-traumatic stress disorder or traumatic brain injuries. Clinton successfully fought to include an important part of that bill — funding for community-based programs that provide readjustment and mental health assistance to National Guard members, Reservists, and their families – into the Department of Defense Appropriations bill enacted in September, 2006. With the help of the Wounded Warrior Project, the National Military Family Association, the Military Officers Association of America, and the American Academy of Neurology, Clinton introduced the Heroes at Home Act of 2007 to build on that previous work.

Worked to increase the survivor benefits for military families from $12,000 to $100,000. Hillary Clinton worked with Republicans and Democrats in the U.S. Senate to try to increase the benefits to family survivors of our nation’s veterans. Clinton joined with then-Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) on the Military Survivor Benefit Improvement Act of 2005. Remarking on the importance of the bill, Clinton said America owes “our young men and women in uniform a tremendous debt of gratitude and they should rest assure that if something happens to them on the front lines, their families will be taken care of financially. This bill will ensure that our service members’ next-to-kin receive the benefits they deserve.”

Teamed up with Republicans to expand health care for National Guard members and reservists. Hillary Clinton worked with Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) to provide full military health benefits to National Guard members and reservists. Clinton noted that she and Graham worked for four years on that mission, even though “many people thought I would never talk to Lindsey Graham, let alone work with him… So Senator Graham and I said we’re going to make sure that if you’re a National Guard or Reserve member, you will have access to health care and you’ll be part of this great American military from the very beginning. We will take care of you and your families.” Senator Graham praised Clinton’s “longstanding commitment to ensuring that members of our National Guard and Reserve and their families have access to the health care benefits they need and deserve.”

Authored a new G.I. Bill of Rights to help veterans adjust and re-enter the workforce after deployment. Hillary Clinton introduced the 21st Century G.I. Bill of Rights to help veterans achieve their American dream through educational opportunities, a new veteran-specific micro-loan program, and an expanded home loan program. Clinton said she took “tremendous personal pride in the fact that the VFW has endorsed” the legislative package. Describing the new G.I. Bill of Rights, Clinton said it “provides educational opportunities – from college, to trade and technical training, to certification and licensing programs. It expands opportunities for veterans to buy, build, repair and improve their homes. It creates a Veterans Micro-loaning Program to provide loans up to $100,000 at very low interest rates and without collateral, so that veterans can start their own small businesses.”

Fought to expand retirement pay and disability compensation for veterans disabled during their service. Hillary Clinton cosponsored the Retired Pay Restoration Act of 2001, 2003, 2005, and 2007. This legislation sought to expand retirement pay and disability compensation for all of America’s veterans disabled in the service of their country.

Expanded the Family and Medical Leave Act to families of wounded service members. The defense authorization bill enacted in 2008 included legislation introduced by Senator Chris Dodd and Senator Clinton to allow families of wounded service members to take up to six months unpaid leave to care for their wounded family member. Clinton cosponsored similar legislation in 2003 and 2005.

In the first place, Hillary didn't pass any anything. She can only vote in favor of legislation. As a Senator, she can write and introduce legislation or she can work on a committee that reviews and modifies legislation but she can't pass anything.

Regarding the "Heroes at Home Act of 2006" that you are gushing about, yes she wrote and introduced it and can rightly take full credit for it. Unfortunately it was so badly written and flawed that no other senator would co-sponsor it. It was duly read on the floor and then referred to committee where it died.

Of the 409 pieces of legislation she can rightly take credit for, only 3 made it to the Presidents desk. They are:

1. A bill to designate a portion of United States Route 20A, located in Orchard Park, New York, as the "Timothy J. Russert Highway"
2. A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 2951 New York Highway 43 in Averill Park, New York, as the "Major George Quamo Post Office Building".
3. Kate Mullany National Historic Site Act

She has perfected this modus operandi where she waddles around, speaking in high sounding platitudes that make people feel good but never actually does or accomplishes anything while at the same time expanding the coffers of the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation.

Guest
12-03-2015, 01:30 PM
In the first place, Hillary didn't pass any anything. She can only vote in favor of legislation. As a Senator, she can write and introduce legislation or she can work on a committee that reviews and modifies legislation but she can't pass anything.

Regarding the "Heroes at Home Act of 2006" that you are gushing about, yes she wrote and introduced it and can rightly take full credit for it. Unfortunately it was so badly written and flawed that no other senator would co-sponsor it. It was duly read on the floor and then referred to committee where it died.

Of the 409 pieces of legislation she can rightly take credit for, only 3 made it to the Presidents desk. They are:

1. A bill to designate a portion of United States Route 20A, located in Orchard Park, New York, as the "Timothy J. Russert Highway"
2. A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 2951 New York Highway 43 in Averill Park, New York, as the "Major George Quamo Post Office Building".
3. Kate Mullany National Historic Site Act

She has perfected this modus operandi where she waddles around, speaking in high sounding platitudes that make people feel good but never actually does or accomplishes anything while at the same time expanding the coffers of the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation.

:thumbup:

Guest
12-03-2015, 01:30 PM
In the first place, Hillary didn't pass any anything. She can only vote in favor of legislation. As a Senator, she can write and introduce legislation or she can work on a committee that reviews and modifies legislation but she can't pass anything.

Regarding the "Heroes at Home Act of 2006" that you are gushing about, yes she wrote and introduced it and can rightly take full credit for it. Unfortunately it was so badly written and flawed that no other senator would co-sponsor it. It was duly read on the floor and then referred to committee where it died.

Of the 409 pieces of legislation she can rightly take credit for, only 3 made it to the Presidents desk. They are:

1. A bill to designate a portion of United States Route 20A, located in Orchard Park, New York, as the "Timothy J. Russert Highway"
2. A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 2951 New York Highway 43 in Averill Park, New York, as the "Major George Quamo Post Office Building".
3. Kate Mullany National Historic Site Act

She has perfected this modus operandi where she waddles around, speaking in high sounding platitudes that make people feel good but never actually does or accomplishes anything while at the same time expanding the coffers of the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation.
You were doing well until the waddling around comment. Then your post sinks to the trash talk level.

Guest
12-03-2015, 01:39 PM
You were doing well until the waddling around comment. Then your post sinks to the trash talk level.

Aw chi, did he diss your girl in the pants suit? How would you describe her movement? Too bad that Shrilary is the best you have to offer. It must really depress you guys.

Guest
12-03-2015, 01:41 PM
If Chillary is the best your party has to offer this time around, you had better go dig up Carter for a second term run.

Guest
12-04-2015, 06:44 AM
Any candidate would be better than Trump or Cruz. Both are borderline mentally ill.

Guest
12-04-2015, 06:48 AM
As senator, Hillary only had three of her sponsored bills passed as law and none of them had anything to do with Veterans.

As far as the Veterans jobs act is concerned, a new bill is passed related to Veterans jobs acts EVERY time elections get close.

Like every other senator, Hillary spoke a lot, but accomplished little. Only three bills passed. Not that great of a record, I think.

She was a Junior senator. Everyone knows that the way Congress is set up, it takes time to develop power and subsequent votes. Looking at the bills she sponsored and co-sponsored, and her voting record, it is easy to see her strong work ethic and that her priorities were in the right place.

Guest
12-04-2015, 09:32 AM
She was a Junior senator. Everyone knows that the way Congress is set up, it takes time to develop power and subsequent votes. Looking at the bills she sponsored and co-sponsored, and her voting record, it is easy to see her strong work ethic and that her priorities were in the right place.

Open bar.....all the X-X-X kool aide is on the house.

I would normally state the minority report is hereby acknowledged, but in this obvious brainwash case even that is unwarranted.

Guest
12-04-2015, 09:49 AM
she was a junior senator. Everyone knows that the way congress is set up, it takes time to develop power and subsequent votes. Looking at the bills she sponsored and co-sponsored, and her voting record, it is easy to see her strong work ethic and that her priorities were in the right place.

omg!

Guest
12-04-2015, 01:14 PM
She was a Junior senator. Everyone knows that the way Congress is set up, it takes time to develop power and subsequent votes. Looking at the bills she sponsored and co-sponsored, and her voting record, it is easy to see her strong work ethic and that her priorities were in the right place.

Funny how liberals are always defending their losers. Don't you all have any pride? Throw the the losers to the dogs and be done with them. At least Sanders admits what he is and doesn't camouflage it with a label of progressive or liberal. Even though he is a loonytoon, I can respect his honesty as far as admitting that he is an Anti-American commie. Hilary just says whatever you want to hear, caring nothing about the lies she tells every day. She knows that you are chumps for supporting her. She laughs all the way to the bank.

Guest
12-08-2015, 02:36 PM
Any candidate would be better than Trump or Cruz. Both are borderline mentally ill.


Totally true.

Guest
12-08-2015, 03:06 PM
Any candidate would be better than Trump or Cruz. Both are borderline mentally ill.

And after the last 7 years we have had enough of the crazy amateurs :censored: up America and our way of life!

Guest
12-08-2015, 03:15 PM
Any candidate would be better than Trump or Cruz. Both are borderline mentally ill.

Speaking of mental illness, one has to look no further than the current administration.

Guest
12-08-2015, 03:19 PM
Any candidate would be better than Trump or Cruz. Both are borderline mentally ill.

I guess I'll take borderline over a definite loons from the left. You have no choice. At least we have more candidates to chose from if any of us agree with your characterization of Trump and Cruz. But, even if they were the ONLY choices on our side, they would get my vote over Shrilary the liar or Sander the commie. I feel your pain....no not really. But, it must be really humiliating to bet all your money on two losers.

Guest
12-08-2015, 03:21 PM
Speaking of mental illness, one has to look no further than the current administration.

Spot on!....:thumbup: This administration has all the characteristics of a Muslim terrorist group. This is not a good period in history to be a Democrat.

Guest
12-08-2015, 03:38 PM
I guess I'll take borderline over a definite loons from the left. You have no choice. At least we have more candidates to chose from if any of us agree with your characterization of Trump and Cruz. But, even if they were the ONLY choices on our side, they would get my vote over Shrilary the liar or Sander the commie. I feel your pain....no not really. But, it must be really humiliating to bet all your money on two losers.

It's not humiliating for them. They have gotten used to it - after all they voted for Obama...TWICE!

Guest
12-08-2015, 04:42 PM
It's not humiliating for them. They have gotten used to it - after all they voted for Obama...TWICE!

:1rotfl::a20:

Guest
12-09-2015, 01:12 PM
New Emails Suggest Pentagon Had Troops At the Ready to Send to Benghazi -- Despite, Get This, Hillary's and Obama's (and the Media's) Claims to the Contrary

Emails suggest Pentagon had troops ready during Benghazi siege | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/emails-pentagon-had-troops-ready-during-benghazi-seige/article/2577894)

So she lied. I'm shocked.

56643

This is my shocked face.

Guest
12-09-2015, 01:30 PM
New Emails Suggest Pentagon Had Troops At the Ready to Send to Benghazi -- Despite, Get This, Hillary's and Obama's (and the Media's) Claims to the Contrary

Emails suggest Pentagon had troops ready during Benghazi siege | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/emails-pentagon-had-troops-ready-during-benghazi-seige/article/2577894)

So she lied. I'm shocked.

56643

This is my shocked face.

You shouldn't be shocked. After all she IS a lawyer and you know what they say about lawyers, right?

Guest
12-10-2015, 08:13 PM
Now, that is just hilarious. Tooo Funny! She is just as bad a disgraces as Obama, and that's saying something. She has done NOTHING good or accomplished NOTHING in service to America. At the very least Trump has created thousands of jobs. I don't personally care for Trump but I would not even think twice about voting for him over Clinton (either one of them) if the only choice was between Trump and Clinton. Clinton is despicable to put it mildly. The Clintons hate the military so why would they wish to be in command of them? Nope, my wish is for her to get what should be coming to her, jail time. She deserves to go to jail for jeopardizing national security and being culpable in the Benghazi cover up of the death of our patriots.
What is amusing is that in a battle of wits with Hillary you'd be runner up.

Guest
12-11-2015, 05:55 AM
What is amusing is that in a battle of wits with Hillary you'd be runner up.

Ahh, but I'm not running for president. Unfortunately, she is.

Guest
12-11-2015, 08:30 AM
Ahh, but I'm not running for president. Unfortunately, she is.

...and all the polls say Mrs. Clinton would beat any Republican.

Guest
12-11-2015, 08:54 AM
...and all the polls say Mrs. Clinton would beat any Republican.

And when one only looks in the mirror all they see is _ ? _.

And using wit in the same sentence with Clinton is in itself another pretense!

Guest
12-11-2015, 09:36 AM
...and all the polls say Mrs. Clinton would beat any Republican.

I guess it depends on which polls you are looking at, because I have seen polls where every Republican beats her in the election, except possibly Fiorina. And Fiorina is even in the polls with her. As we all know, polls are not accurate predictions of election results. Besides, polls can't account for Shrillary being arrested by the FBI.

Guest
12-11-2015, 10:50 AM
...and all the polls say Mrs. Clinton would beat any Republican.

True. The latest polls show Clinton with a sizable lead. The only poll that shows the Trump being ahead is the one by Fox knows dated 11/16 -11/19.

Carson has dipped precipitously in the polls among the Republican candidates. It appears he can't even manage his own campaign much less manage the country. The Republican Party wishes Trump weren't even in existence, and he's is of course talking about a third-party Canada see if necessary which would certainly be a nail in the coffin for any Republican presidential helps.

Guest
12-11-2015, 10:52 AM
True. The latest polls show Clinton with a sizable lead. The only poll that shows the Trump being ahead is the one by Fox knows dated 11/16 -11/19.

Carson has dipped precipitously in the polls among the Republican candidates. It appears he can't even manage his own campaign much less manage the country. The Republican Party wishes Trump weren't even in existence, and he's is of course talking about a third-party Canada see if necessary which would certainly be a nail in the coffin for any Republican presidential helps.
Spell check not working. He is of course, talking about a third-party candidacy which would be a nail in the coffin for any Republican presidential hopes.

Guest
12-11-2015, 11:09 AM
Spell check not working. He is of course, talking about a third-party candidacy which would be a nail in the coffin for any Republican presidential hopes.

That would require an assumption that all democrats, 100% will or would have voted for Clinton, which we know and can only be proven at the ballot box.

Because there are so many democrats that think America is not going in the right direction and are not ready to be fooled a third time....and if they like Trump.....just like many republicans will follow Trump. What none of us KNOW is will there be enough to offset whoever votes for the republican party.

However the direction, we know some of you loyalists both R & especially the D's will following and salute whoevr wears the appropriate letter after their name.....no matter what.

PS notice how low profile the Clinton campaign remains compared to Trump, Cruz and Rubio. It is easier to follow then counterpoint and much easier to not present a target!!!

Guest
12-11-2015, 12:15 PM
Another reason to vote for Hillary. When wrong (often) she can be excused because of her "often confused" state.

Huma: Hillary 'Often Confused' | The Weekly Standard (http://www.weeklystandard.com/huma-hillary-often-confused/article/1064726)

Guest
12-11-2015, 01:59 PM
Another reason to vote for Hillary. When wrong (often) she can be excused because of her "often confused" state.

Huma: Hillary 'Often Confused' | The Weekly Standard (http://www.weeklystandard.com/huma-hillary-often-confused/article/1064726)

Well, she did bump her head, you know.

The Dems make excuses for Obama because he is black. Republicans don't allow them to use the race card to excuse his ineptitude. SO, I guess the Dems will excuse Shrillary because she is a woman. That wouldn't happen in the Republican party. Everyone is equal with us. And they can equally fail with us, also. Call it racist if you wish, but that's just fact. It was evident from the start when Reid stated that Obama could speak good "white."

Guest
12-11-2015, 02:01 PM
Why Hillary should be president?

She shouldn't. There are too many other, better folks out there that would do a better job. An honorable job. Even in the Democrat party. Even Biden would be a better representative of the left.

Guest
12-14-2015, 10:04 AM
Bill Clinton left the US with a surplus. The national debt spiraled during the Bush/Cheney years.

Guest
12-14-2015, 11:06 AM
Bill Clinton left the US with a surplus. The national debt spiraled during the Bush/Cheney years.

Another myth.

The ONLY president to EVER have a surplus was Eisenhower.
Clinton's budget surplus was his "proposed" spending budget for the following year during Bush's term. A budget is a proposal to spend within certain limits. Obama claims he reduced the budget deficit. That means, he reduced how much they planned to spend. Neither Clinton or Obama spent less than the tax received revenues.

You liberals claim that Obama's term did not start until after the fiscal year 9/30/2009 and that Bush was responsible for the debt up to that point. Well, that means that Clinton was responsible for the debt into Bush's firs year and did NOT have a surplus. If there was a surplus in revenues, then the national debt would have been paid down, and we all know that the national debt has never been paid down since President Eisenhower.

Guest
12-14-2015, 11:27 AM
Bill Clinton left the US with a surplus. The national debt spiraled during the Bush/Cheney years.

Bush had billion dollar deficits and Obama has averaged trillion dollar deficits. But, keep blaming Bush.

Guest
12-14-2015, 01:04 PM
Bush had billion dollar deficits and Obama has averaged trillion dollar deficits. But, keep blaming Bush.

Much easier to say Crapweasel than Bush.

Guest
12-14-2015, 01:54 PM
Much easier to say Crapweasel than Bush.

I won't say what most folks call Obama because it would injure your sensitive nature and you would accuse me of being a racist...no matter what I said. But, you did achieve your objective, and that was to get some attention. Now you can go back to your video game until your momma calls you for dinner.

Guest
12-14-2015, 02:05 PM
Why should Hillary be president?

Let's see, because she is honest? Nope that ain't it. Couldn't prove that.
Because she has integrity? Nope that isn't it. Not convincing.
Because she is a good leader? Nope, a leader doesn't abandon her fellow Americans to be killed.
Because she is ethical? Nope, no one would believe that.
Because she lived in the White House with Billy, when he was dogging around? Nope, that just makes her stupid.
Because she got shot at in Bosnia? Nope, another lie.
Because she is a woman? Nope, not important, even if she was black.

I give up, why would anyone vote for her and why does anyone except Bill think she should be president?

Guest
12-14-2015, 03:19 PM
Why should Hillary be president?

Let's see, because she is honest? Nope that ain't it. Couldn't prove that.
Because she has integrity? Nope that isn't it. Not convincing.
Because she is a good leader? Nope, a leader doesn't abandon her fellow Americans to be killed.
Because she is ethical? Nope, no one would believe that.
Because she lived in the White House with Billy, when he was dogging around? Nope, that just makes her stupid.
Because she got shot at in Bosnia? Nope, another lie.
Because she is a woman? Nope, not important, even if she was black.

I give up, why would anyone vote for her and why does anyone except Bill think she should be president?


A. Because everything you stated is a lie.
B. Because she is far better than any of the right wingnuts the Republicans have set forth.
C. America would be dragged back to the times of the 1950's with any Republican. Progressive means to go forward. Regressive means to go backwards.
D. The electoral college will make her a winner. The large Democrat voting blocs in Florida mean Florida goes Democrat. Thank you to Miami-Dade, Tampa-Clearwater, and Orlando.

Guest
12-14-2015, 03:51 PM
A. Because everything you stated is a lie.
B. Because she is far better than any of the right wingnuts the Republicans have set forth.
C. America would be dragged back to the times of the 1950's with any Republican. Progressive means to go forward. Regressive means to go backwards.
D. The electoral college will make her a winner. The large Democrat voting blocs in Florida mean Florida goes Democrat. Thank you to Miami-Dade, Tampa-Clearwater, and Orlando.

Sounds like a prime time X X X kool aide and wacky weed commercial to me.

Guest
12-14-2015, 04:13 PM
A. Because everything you stated is a lie.
B. Because she is far better than any of the right wingnuts the Republicans have set forth.
C. America would be dragged back to the times of the 1950's with any Republican. Progressive means to go forward. Regressive means to go backwards.
D. The electoral college will make her a winner. The large Democrat voting blocs in Florida mean Florida goes Democrat. Thank you to Miami-Dade, Tampa-Clearwater, and Orlando.

I hate confusing some with facts of the matter but maybe you should take a look at this and other information available:

Florida Presidential Election Voting History (http://www.270towin.com/states/Florida)

Clearly does not demonstrate the democratic lock you being parroted. We get it one has to back their party/candidate....but please don't be so bold as to think all democrats think alike because they don't. They may not speak up in social settings but they will show their dissgust for the past 8 years and non acceptance of an unworthy, untrustworthy, unethical candidate like Clinton/.........but they will in the confines of the voting both.

Nice try!

Guest
12-14-2015, 05:18 PM
I hate confusing some with facts of the matter but maybe you should take a look at this and other information available:

Florida Presidential Election Voting History (http://www.270towin.com/states/Florida)

Clearly does not demonstrate the democratic lock you being parroted. We get it one has to back their party/candidate....but please don't be so bold as to think all democrats think alike because they don't. They may not speak up in social settings but they will show their dissgust for the past 8 years and non acceptance of an unworthy, untrustworthy, unethical candidate like Clinton/.........but they will in the confines of the voting both.

Nice try!

Florida was the embarassment of the USA in 2000 with the "hanging chads" and finally Gore gave in and conceded even though it was a dead tie. Bush won in 2004 but Obama won in BOTH 2008 and 2012. Yes, it is a Democrat lock for Hillary in 2016.

Unethical? Look at Trump! Unworthy? Look at Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Bush, Rubio, and Cruz!

Guest
12-14-2015, 06:44 PM
Florida was the embarassment of the USA in 2000 with the "hanging chads" and finally Gore gave in and conceded even though it was a dead tie. Bush won in 2004 but Obama won in BOTH 2008 and 2012. Yes, it is a Democrat lock for Hillary in 2016.

Unethical? Look at Trump! Unworthy? Look at Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Bush, Rubio, and Cruz!

The republican party has turned into the party of wackos. Sad but true. It sure looks like the Democrats have it for 2016. The Republicans just haven't put forth even one viable candidate.

Guest
12-14-2015, 06:45 PM
Florida was the embarassment of the USA in 2000 with the "hanging chads" and finally Gore gave in and conceded even though it was a dead tie. Bush won in 2004 but Obama won in BOTH 2008 and 2012. Yes, it is a Democrat lock for Hillary in 2016.

Unethical? Look at Trump! Unworthy? Look at Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Bush, Rubio, and Cruz!

So, in your delusional state, you believe that if Florida goes to the orange jumpered criminal, then she will have won the presidential election? Interesting. Have you told your therapist about this recurring dream?

Guest
12-14-2015, 06:50 PM
A. Because everything you stated is a lie. WRONG
B. Because she is far better than any of the right wingnuts the Republicans have set forth. NBC poll says that Rubio can beat Hillary right now.
C. America would be dragged back to the times of the 1950's with any Republican. Progressive means to go forward. Regressive means to go backwards. Liberals are Socialists. Socialism is regressive and a failure.
D. The electoral college will make her a winner. The large Democrat voting blocs in Florida mean Florida goes Democrat. Thank you to Miami-Dade, Tampa-Clearwater, and Orlando. Possible, but that does not give her the election.

I'm sorry to water down your Wheaties.....:cryin2:

Guest
12-14-2015, 07:38 PM
Florida was the embarassment of the USA in 2000 with the "hanging chads" and finally Gore gave in and conceded even though it was a dead tie. Bush won in 2004 but Obama won in BOTH 2008 and 2012. Yes, it is a Democrat lock for Hillary in 2016.

Unethical? Look at Trump! Unworthy? Look at Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Bush, Rubio, and Cruz!

There must be a super-er kool aide that is stronger and more delusional inducing than the X-X-X!!

Guest
12-14-2015, 07:41 PM
The republican party has turned into the party of wackos. Sad but true. It sure looks like the Democrats have it for 2016. The Republicans just haven't put forth even one viable candidate.

The kool aide must be more super-er than first suspected; having a compounding effect when combined with the talking point frenzy guidelines at the same time.

Guest
12-14-2015, 07:47 PM
Have you lost your mind man?

Guest
12-15-2015, 07:41 AM
So far, the only answer to the question of why Hilary should be president is:

She was married to Billy
She is a woman

Not much of a reason for electing her to most powerful position in the world. I don't think there are any sane voters out there that would want to take that chance. But, we do have a lot of ignorant voters and we do have a lot of votes based on avarice, what can that candidate do for/give to me. Liberals ARE a needy bunch, and have become more and more dependent on the gov teat.

Guest
12-15-2015, 09:16 AM
I love most people believe Hillary to be dishonest yet the Republicans haven't told the truth about anything this whole election!! Not one of them is credible. I shiver to think of one of the Republicans with the Nuke codes in their hands!!

Guest
12-15-2015, 09:23 AM
You have to skip stolen elections!!

Guest
12-15-2015, 09:30 AM
I love most people believe Hillary to be dishonest yet the Republicans haven't told the truth about anything this whole election!! Not one of them is credible. I shiver to think of one of the Republicans with the Nuke codes in their hands!!

you are intimating you are comfortable with Clinton having the nuclear codes????????

You have just categorized yourself of a lot more than being uninformed....and out of politeness and shock will comment no further.

Guest
12-15-2015, 10:06 AM
I love most people believe Hillary to be dishonest yet the Republicans haven't told the truth about anything this whole election!! Not one of them is credible. I shiver to think of one of the Republicans with the Nuke codes in their hands!!

Telling the truth is a valid point. That aside, how about jeopardizing national security by transmitting and receiving on an unsecured computer, classified information? How about the mishandling of classified information, allowing uncleared personnel access to it while they maintained her equipment? How about the illegal and improper destruction of that classified information? How about tax fraud? How about applying for a leadership position, president, and yet abandoned men in Libya to be slaughtered? And even though you don't believe it is a sin to lie about it, tell the victim's family an outright and deliberate lie as to how they died, by blaming it on a video that only had less than 400 views? How about lying under oath? Just a few of the many issues that I find unacceptable. So, do any of the Republicans compare in equal complicity?

Realize before answering, IF you haven't run away by now, that any answer you give defending her will probably be laughed at or receive replies of a derisive nature.

Other than the fact that you do not wish to vote Republican, you have not given a legitimate reason for your vote. Having the Clinton last name or that she is a woman (debatable) is hardly a valid or common sense reason for giving her your very important vote. You seem to have some semblance of an education if you are able to read and respond on here, so I am puzzled at the implied ignorance you project regarding your political choice. Emotions can elicit radical actions, of course.

Guest
12-15-2015, 10:46 AM
Telling the truth is a valid point. That aside, how about jeopardizing national security by transmitting and receiving on an unsecured computer, classified information? How about the mishandling of classified information, allowing uncleared personnel access to it while they maintained her equipment? How about the illegal and improper destruction of that classified information? How about tax fraud? How about applying for a leadership position, president, and yet abandoned men in Libya to be slaughtered? And even though you don't believe it is a sin to lie about it, tell the victim's family an outright and deliberate lie as to how they died, by blaming it on a video that only had less than 400 views? How about lying under oath? Just a few of the many issues that I find unacceptable. So, do any of the Republicans compare in equal complicity?

Realize before answering, IF you haven't run away by now, that any answer you give defending her will probably be laughed at or receive replies of a derisive nature.

Other than the fact that you do not wish to vote Republican, you have not given a legitimate reason for your vote. Having the Clinton last name or that she is a woman (debatable) is hardly a valid or common sense reason for giving her your very important vote. You seem to have some semblance of an education if you are able to read and respond on here, so I am puzzled at the implied ignorance you project regarding your political choice. Emotions can elicit radical actions, of course.

There is a 'D' after their name and that is all that counts...good, bad, crooked, criminal, liar, cheat, unethical, dishonest, etc.......does not matter!

That is how we got Obama. And many more of the "d" names will not be fooled the third time.

Guest
12-15-2015, 11:50 AM
Calm down and take your meds.

I love most people believe Hillary to be dishonest yet the Republicans haven't told the truth about anything this whole election!! Not one of them is credible. I shiver to think of one of the Republicans with the Nuke codes in their hands!!

Guest
12-15-2015, 11:56 AM
Bottom line. Anyone under investigation by the FBI is too dangerous to be President. She's just another Obama. If you like living with terrorism then yes vote for Hillary.

Guest
12-15-2015, 01:06 PM
Bottom line. Anyone under investigation by the FBI is too dangerous to be President. She's just another Obama. If you like living with terrorism then yes vote for Hillary.

I agree. The FBI is owned by Obama so if they are investigating Hillary, then she can't blame the GOP, unless she feels that she was ratted out by the GOP. In that case, she shouldn't have made so many enemies. Shoot, a few years ago, her own party didn't want anything to do with her. Then when she became SecState they all clambered to kiss her posterior. Everyone knows that the Clintons are despicable criminals. Heck, she even said they were broke when they left the White House, and that's probably why they stole thousands of bucks worth of property when they snuck out. I wouldn't trust either one of them with the restroom keycard, let alone with national security and the treasury checkbook.

Guest
12-15-2015, 09:51 PM
I remember when she said she came under enemy sniper fire in the Bosnia airport and then said oh shucks I just misspoke..I remember her calling Monica Lewinsky a narcissistic loony toon.. How about, I did NOT delete work related emails only personal ones.. What are they at about 30,000 recovered so far? My favorite though, I did not send or receive classified emails on my private server, well ok maybe they're marked classified now but NOT when I sent them..Madame Secretary you want to be the Top Boss on the planet but you don't have enough common sense to assume that most likely ALL work related emails should be considered top secret, you know, just in case you're being hacked.. If she God forbid should become President how in the heck can she ALSO control a private foundation that accepts millions in wink wink "donations from foreign governments and it NOT be considered a conflict of interest even if it's Bill or Chelsea running it?? Lordy, Lordy 4 years of hearing that laugh would be unbearable....

Guest
12-16-2015, 12:31 PM
Since, Hillary was very active in Bill's presidency, so far no one has publicly asked if this would not be a third term for the Clintons-WHICH WOULD BE ILLEGAL.

Qualifications-Bill now knows what sex is AND HE NOW KNOWS WHERE TO STAIN A DRESS IN THE WHITE HOUSE WITH NO PICTURES. We can count on this team to show us TRUTH? HONOR? MORAL LEADERSHIP?

Guest
12-16-2015, 12:41 PM
If you think about it having Bill in the White House isn't all that bad. We did have peace and prosperity those years, and isn't that what we're all looking for? Everybody on here seems to complain about Obama and Bush 43 but not William Jefferson.
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Guest
12-16-2015, 12:44 PM
If you think about it having Bill in the White House isn't all that bad. We did have peace and prosperity those years, and isn't that what we're all looking for? Everybody on here seems to complain about Obama and Bush 43 but not William Jefferson.
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That's a naive statement, no offense Chi.