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Guest
11-29-2015, 10:32 AM
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/01/53-historians-on-obamas-legacy.html

I did vote for him in 2008 when I thought he was going to do great things but only voted for him in 2012 because Romney did not seem to go into details about what he was going to do as President. Something off happened at the University of Denver Presidential Debate that threw President Obama off his game which I did not think he deserved, so I fought for the Obama re-election on Facebook quite hard even though it only seemed that his handling of Hurricane Sandy and his working with the NJ Governor Chris Christie saved him.

I voted for the two Bushes three times and do really like what Jeb Bush has to say about a lot of stuff. He does not seem to have the charm needed though to get enough votes and fend off Donald Trump and some of the other Republicans.

Still it will be interesting to see what historians do with President Barack Obama.

Guest
11-29-2015, 10:46 AM
Once he is out of office there will be more reported about what the media, writers and we the people do not or did not like about him, his presidency and his much over rated legacy.

While he is in office, after witnessing his position on racial implications (real or manufactured)....many do not want to risk being viewed as picking on the black guy .....because that is how it would be portrayed.

I did not and would not ever vote for him or anybody else so unqualified for the position.

I did say I would give him until his first state of the union to give my opinion of him. I would not have allowed him to serve year two. His complete lack of executive capability was more tha evident. He rearely if ever did what he talked about or promised. His penchant for things tacial were glaringly evident.

He did not and still does not in any way shape or form represent the needs of America or it's people.

He is at best a failing grade on the international scene.

Has no respect or understanding of the strategic significance of the military.
Less than amateur.

And on many of the above and many others he has no desire nor did he ever display any ability to take advice or criticism.

Over all he will be judged as one of America's least capable ever in office...black white or any other wise!

Guest
11-29-2015, 12:26 PM
Well, he sure flopped as the first black president. What a disappointment. But, I didn't vote for him so I am not responsible for the brain fart others had. As far as his golf is concerned, I understand he has improved, but I have no evidence to prove it. His standup comedy is average. His public image of his married life is his treating his wife like a sister, including a sisterly kiss. Some say he is a closet gay, but that's his business. His diplomacy when dealing with congress is pretty poor. He needs remedial leadership classes. His knowledge of the constitution is lacking, making one wonder if the stories of his teaching is over exaggerated. He is a bully and does not play well with others, making one think that he might have been an only child, raised by a single mother.

Over all, I would have to rate him at a D+ (being charitable)

Guest
11-29-2015, 06:01 PM
This forum will judge him quite harshly but I'm sure less affluent communities will be kinder. I personally did not vote for President Obama either time but in 2008 I couldn't make myself check the box next to McCann, I chose to leave both boxes blank. I did think if this Obama guy is the real deal he might be able to make some needed corrections. My biggest criticism of him is his campaign claim that spending the next generation's future was immoral. As he leaves office his two children will not have to work a day in their lives if they choose not to but a crushing debt is left for future generations he did absolutely nothing to reduce. My two children and my grand-children will have to work. Obama made his fortune working "for the people". That is his legacy from this writer.

Guest
11-29-2015, 06:13 PM
This forum will judge him quite harshly but I'm sure less affluent communities will be kinder. I personally did not vote for President Obama either time but in 2008 I couldn't make myself check the box next to McCann, I chose to leave both boxes blank. I did think if this Obama guy is the real deal he might be able to make some needed corrections. My biggest criticism of him is his campaign claim that spending the next generation's future was immoral. As he leaves office his two children will not have to work a day in their lives if they choose not to but a crushing debt is left for future generations he did absolutely nothing to reduce. My two children and my grand-children will have to work. Obama made his fortune working "for the people". That is his legacy from this writer.

One suggestion. The phraseology highlighted infers doing something for the people while in office....which he did not. He only did "work" for his own personal gain while taking up space in the office of the president.

Guest
11-29-2015, 07:11 PM
One suggestion. The phraseology highlighted infers doing something for the people while in office....which he did not. He only did "work" for his own personal gain while taking up space in the office of the president.
The phrase "working 'for the people' " infers nothing. It does however imply quite a bit.

Guest
11-29-2015, 07:26 PM
One suggestion. The phraseology highlighted infers doing something for the people while in office....which he did not. He only did "work" for his own personal gain while taking up space in the office of the president.

:agree:

Guest
11-30-2015, 06:41 AM
It's quite shameful of how the president is talked about now compared with presidents of the past. President Obama has done what few others could do with such hateful opposition from Congress! It's disgraceful how the President of the United States has been talked about here and around the U.S., they should be ashamed! To show their ignorance people spout opinions about his lack of Constitutional knowledge yet he is a graduate of Harvard in Constitutional Law! Pathetic ignorance.

Guest
11-30-2015, 07:48 AM
It's quite shameful of how the president is talked about now compared with presidents of the past. President Obama has done what few others could do with such hateful opposition from Congress! It's disgraceful how the President of the United States has been talked about here and around the U.S., they should be ashamed! To show their ignorance people spout opinions about his lack of Constitutional knowledge yet he is a graduate of Harvard in Constitutional Law! Pathetic ignorance.

The minority report (PUN intended:D) is duly noted!

Guest
11-30-2015, 08:49 AM
The minority report (PUN intended:D) is duly noted!

:highfive:

Guest
11-30-2015, 08:53 AM
It's quite shameful of how the president is talked about now compared with presidents of the past. President Obama has done what few others could do with such hateful opposition from Congress! It's disgraceful how the President of the United States has been talked about here and around the U.S., they should be ashamed! To show their ignorance people spout opinions about his lack of Constitutional knowledge yet he is a graduate of Harvard in Constitutional Law! Pathetic ignorance.

Did you say that when Bush was being hung in effigy? Did you say that when Bush was painted as Hitler or a clown? Give it a break and quit your whining. You should be ashamed for voting for this failure. He was pushed through Harvard. He didn't even have the qualifications anyone else would need to get in. As far as his knowledge of the constitution is concerned, he has never shown any evidence that he is familiar with the document. In any of the 57 states that he visited....:a20:

Guest
11-30-2015, 09:07 AM
Rate Obama? FAILED!!

Guest
11-30-2015, 10:30 AM
Clown! Lottsa make up; say stupid or goofy things; act like an idiot; change clothes and pretend to be somebody else.

Guest
11-30-2015, 11:36 AM
Clown! Lottsa make up; say stupid or goofy things; act like an idiot; change clothes and pretend to be somebody else.

Clown = Obama

Guest
12-01-2015, 07:20 AM
Before we had a black president who lived with a Muslim stepfather in Asia during grade school, we were having better race relations and had a better idea of how to handle radical Muslims. Just sayin'.

Guest
12-01-2015, 08:14 AM
Before we had a black president who lived with a Muslim stepfather in Asia during grade school, we were having better race relations and had a better idea of how to handle radical Muslims. Just sayin'.

Succinctly and nicely stated!!

Guest
12-01-2015, 09:57 AM
It's quite shameful of how the president is talked about now compared with presidents of the past. President Obama has done what few others could do with such hateful opposition from Congress! It's disgraceful how the President of the United States has been talked about here and around the U.S., they should be ashamed! To show their ignorance people spout opinions about his lack of Constitutional knowledge yet he is a graduate of Harvard in Constitutional Law! Pathetic ignorance.

Graduated, but fr from head of class

Guest
12-01-2015, 10:00 AM
Did you say that when Bush was being hung in effigy? Did you say that when Bush was painted as Hitler or a clown? Give it a break and quit your whining. You should be ashamed for voting for this failure. He was pushed through Harvard. He didn't even have the qualifications anyone else would need to get in. As far as his knowledge of the constitution is concerned, he has never shown any evidence that he is familiar with the document. In any of the 57 states that he visited....:a20:


Best response ever IMO:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

Guest
12-01-2015, 11:21 AM
It's quite shameful of how the president is talked about now compared with presidents of the past. President Obama has done what few others could do with such hateful opposition from Congress! It's disgraceful how the President of the United States has been talked about here and around the U.S., they should be ashamed! To show their ignorance people spout opinions about his lack of Constitutional knowledge yet he is a graduate of Harvard in Constitutional Law! Pathetic ignorance.

For me, that is what makes it so egregious. He knows. He doesn't care. He uses his knowledge to do an end run around the Constitution.

I did not vote for him, but when he was elected, I sucked it up and hoped he would be a role model for young, disaffected blacks, males in particular.

He did nothing of the sort. He has set race relations back decades. IMO, he is the most miserable, disappointing effigy of a leader I have ever experienced. And I'm an old broad.

Guest
12-01-2015, 12:53 PM
It is said that today's headlines is tomorrow's history. If that is true then by any measure and owing solely to the liberal media coverups and the defending by the elitist liberal intelligentsia he will be canonized as a saint. Liberals will never allow their prized affirmative action product to be recognized and regarded as anything but successful.

The reality is that by any measure statistics show he failed the economy, foreign policy, crated a wider divide between the races, discredited America to both its friends and foes. He was launched and supported by the elitist liberal intelligentsia to do their bidding including the climate change agenda, gun control internationalism, reducing America's exceptionalism. He is a socialist, a racist, a egomanic, a liar, anti Christian, anti American and the worse person elected to the position of president . The only reason he was not impeached is because he is black

Guest
12-01-2015, 12:56 PM
Rate??

Best black president we have ever had, except for Clinton.

Guest
12-01-2015, 07:26 PM
He is without a doubt the worst president we have ever had and he just happens to be black.

If he were white doing the same stupid stuff would the reaction be different?

Of course it would!

Guest
12-01-2015, 07:34 PM
Graduated, but fr from head of class
Just curious who was yr alma mater?

Guest
12-02-2015, 01:01 PM
Barack Obama rates far better than Weasel Bush. Remember that Weasel Bush got us into the Iraq War with his lies. The ISIS mess would not have happened if not for Weasel.

Weasel Bush is a war criminal as iis Cheney. Both are under indictment by the World Court and would be put on trial if they leave the USA.

Guest
12-02-2015, 01:19 PM
Barack Obama rates far better than Weasel Bush. Remember that Weasel Bush got us into the Iraq War with his lies. The ISIS mess would not have happened if not for Weasel.

Weasel Bush is a war criminal as iis Cheney. Both are under indictment by the World Court and would be put on trial if they leave the USA.

Same old, same old..."It's Bush's fault". Liberals never tire of blaming the FORMER President.

Guest
12-02-2015, 01:39 PM
Barack Obama rates far better than Weasel Bush. Remember that Weasel Bush got us into the Iraq War with his lies. The ISIS mess would not have happened if not for Weasel.

Weasel Bush is a war criminal as iis Cheney. Both are under indictment by the World Court and would be put on trial if they leave the USA.

Oh no not the old lame blame game again.

Must be a holiday for the talking point crew so just use the same old non-pertinent, excuse crap.

Guest
12-02-2015, 01:48 PM
Unbelievable!! The pet liberal blames Bush for Obama's failure again. I guess if Hilary was to be elected (ain't gonna happen) he would have to blame Obama for Hilary's blunders, huh?

Guest
12-02-2015, 02:00 PM
Unbelievable!! The pet liberal blames Bush for Obama's failure again. I guess if Hilary was to be elected (ain't gonna happen) he would have to blame Obama for Hilary's blunders, huh?

If Hillary does get elected (unlikely), he will blame George Bush for Hillary's incompetence.

Guest
12-02-2015, 03:49 PM
Started voting in federal elections in 1960. Through 2013, I rated Obama the 2nd worst President I've experienced behind only the feckless Jimmy Carter. However, after the last 22 months I'm letting Jimmy out of the cellar and putting boob Obama in last place. Baldfaced lies too numerous, boundless foreign policy silliness, unending illegal activities by his hench people at federal agencies, etc., etc.

At this point, all Obama has going for him is all the racial healing that has taken place. Say what ---- you say he's actually been the #1 race hustler over his term. OK, I take the racial healing part back.

Guest
12-02-2015, 04:13 PM
Started voting in federal elections in 1960. Through 2013, I rated Obama the 2nd worst President I've experienced behind only the feckless Jimmy Carter. However, after the last 22 months I'm letting Jimmy out of the cellar and putting boob Obama in last place. Baldfaced lies too numerous, boundless foreign policy silliness, unending illegal activities by his hench people at federal agencies, etc., etc.

At this point, all Obama has going for him is all the racial healing that has taken place. Say what ---- you say he's actually been the #1 race hustler over his term. OK, I take the racial healing part back.

:a20:...:highfive:

Guest
12-02-2015, 08:00 PM
Just curious who was yr alma mater?

I got free ride like Odumbo so you can't see my transcript. Like Odumbos it's full of free passes and inferior grades I got from sports scholarship, you know your tipical BB and FB scholarship..

Guest
12-02-2015, 09:44 PM
On a scale of 1 to 10 being 10 the best, I would say a 1 and that's being generous

Guest
12-03-2015, 06:26 AM
And the idiot-in-chief speaks again about gun control after the shooting in California. He needs to get control of his premature ejaculating mouth and think before spouting his ideology. The weapons were purchased LEGALLY. They were NOT assault weapons, even though they appeared to look like them. Semi-automatic rifles are legal. Countries with strict gun control laws also have mass shootings. The USA is number 7 in mass shootings per capita, and all the leading countries with higher stats also have more restrictive gun control. Of course when you have a leader that still thinks there are 57 states, what else would you expect than garbage spewing from his mouth?

Guest
12-03-2015, 06:29 AM
In October, the FBI released its 2014 report on firearms homicides, which shows an 18% decline since 2007.

Guest
12-04-2015, 08:21 AM
From columnist Roger Simon: "To lay the blame for what happened Wednesday in San Bernardino on Barack Obama might seem excessive. But if not on him, who? From the day he took office, the president has been engaged in a game of outright denial that Islam has anything to do with what is wrong in the world.

To paraphrase H.L. Mencken, “When somebody says it’s not about Islam, it’s about Islam.”

Syed Farook did not go to Saudi Arabia to study Zen Buddhism. America, and its trailing entities in Europe, has a problem now of gargantuan proportions. Barack Obama was and is precisely the wrong man, possibly the worst conceivable man, to be president of the United States at this point in history."

As I said in an earlier post, clearly the worst President of my lifetime.

Guest
12-04-2015, 08:57 AM
From columnist Roger Simon: "To lay the blame for what happened Wednesday in San Bernardino on Barack Obama might seem excessive. But if not on him, who? From the day he took office, the president has been engaged in a game of outright denial that Islam has anything to do with what is wrong in the world.

To paraphrase H.L. Mencken, “When somebody says it’s not about Islam, it’s about Islam.”

Syed Farook did not go to Saudi Arabia to study Zen Buddhism. America, and its trailing entities in Europe, has a problem now of gargantuan proportions. Barack Obama was and is precisely the wrong man, possibly the worst conceivable man, to be president of the United States at this point in history."

As I said in an earlier post, clearly the worst President of my lifetime.

:agree:

Guest
12-04-2015, 09:06 AM
Same old, same old..."It's Bush's fault". Liberals never tire of blaming the FORMER President.

Let's hear from some conservative defending the Iraq war and loss of 4500 American lives. What was the reason and was it worth it?

Guest
12-04-2015, 09:18 AM
Let's hear from some conservative defending the Iraq war and loss of 4500 American lives. What was the reason and was it worth it?

Why not ask Hillary? She supported it.

Guest
12-04-2015, 09:18 AM
Let's hear from some conservative defending the Iraq war and loss of 4500 American lives. What was the reason and was it worth it?

Other than distract from the intent of the original post and add absolutely no value to the point.....what does this have to do with Obama's rating?????

Must be the brainwash snap back mechanism. When asked about Obama always go back to Bush.

After 7 years still using the tired old Bush response!?!?

Guest
12-04-2015, 10:08 AM
The real problem with Obama is that he is fundamentally dishonest. He follows the democratic playbook that "assumes people are too stupid to know what is best and we need to take care of them and if we have to lie to get our way then that is perfectly justified". Why anyone would vote for a person and party that believes they are stupid is beyond me.

Barack Obama rates far better than Weasel Bush. Remember that Weasel Bush got us into the Iraq War with his lies. The ISIS mess would not have happened if not for Weasel.

Weasel Bush is a war criminal as iis Cheney. Both are under indictment by the World Court and would be put on trial if they leave the USA.

Guest
12-04-2015, 10:26 AM
It's quite shameful of how the president is talked about now compared with presidents of the past. President Obama has done what few others could do with such hateful opposition from Congress! It's disgraceful how the President of the United States has been talked about here and around the U.S., they should be ashamed! To show their ignorance people spout opinions about his lack of Constitutional knowledge yet he is a graduate of Harvard in Constitutional Law! Pathetic ignorance.

While I did not vote for Obama, the people of the US granted him a unique opportunity as the first black president to bring this country together as MANDELLA did for south africa. Mandella left his country far more united then it has been in history. Obama will leave my/our country far more racially divided and with our national debt raised by NINE TRILLION DOLLARS-an incomprehensible sum.
Bushes first act after winning election was to have a meeting with Kennedy, opposition leader, to see COMMON INTERESTS. Result was expanded funding of education and the no child left behind program. Obama's first act as president was to blame the republicans for everything. First two years, the democrats controlled both houses of congress. In Obama's mind it is everyone else s fault but his. Truman said THE BUCK STOPS HERE. For Obma
if it is someone elses fault SOMEONE ELSE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ELECTED PRESIDENT.

Guest
12-04-2015, 10:38 AM
The minority report (PUN intended:D) is duly noted!

Obama got 53% of the vote in his first election. Blacks are 13% of the population and he took 98% of the black vote. Jews, not anti Semitic I am Jewish and PROUDLY I did not vote for Obama, are 5% of the population and Obama took 86% of the Jewish vote. First of all had the non black, non jewish voters voted in the same RACIALLY PREJUDICED LEVEL as the jews and the blacks Obama would have gotten roughly 28% of the vote the largest loss in american history.

It makes me proud that when the LIBERAL PRESS tried to bait Carson into this RACISM tearing our country apart, his reply was I AM A SURGEON. A polite way to say go ........ yourself. The democrats call the republicans a bunch of white racists. THE FACTS ARE RACE IS NOT EVEN AN ISSUE FOR THE REPUBLICANS-CARSON IS A FRONT RUNNER.

WAKE UP-YOU HAVE BEEN HYPNOTIZED BY THE OBAMA DEMOCRATS

Guest
12-04-2015, 12:24 PM
For seven years Obama the Terrible has committed one mistake after another with not even a hint of regret. He is a pathological liar guided by his arrogance and ideological vanity. He is a legend in his own mind. Not even a progressive would follow the likes of Seinfeld's "George Constanza"but here we are for 7 years now constantly being constanza-ized while progressives and their favorite news agencies fawn over their affirmative action creation.

Obama and friends will continue to hammer away at the California shootings being work place violence because to admit to it being terrorism is to admit defeat of Obama's lead from behind defense policies and confirm that the founders were correct in creating the 2nd Amendment......the 2nd Amendment being necessary to protect and ensure and protect that all other amendments, rights etc are freely and continually exercise by citizens

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
12-04-2015, 03:05 PM
The real problem with Obama is that he is fundamentally dishonest. He follows the democratic playbook that "assumes people are too stupid to know what is best and we need to take care of them and if we have to lie to get our way then that is perfectly justified". Why anyone would vote for a person and party that believes they are stupid is beyond me.

How stupid does McConnell believe Republicans voters are? Apparently, really stupid. He went around the filibuster rule to pass a bill and repeals Obamacare, and stops funding for Planned Parenthood. What no repeal and replace! Who, in their right mind, doesn't think that Republican representatives aren't against the two items? He had to pass a bill to let the well informed Republican voters know how Republican Representatives stand on these two items. McConnell doesn't assume but knows Republican voters are really stupid. He beliefs are confirmed, because he knows that they only watch Fox News. Anyone that thinks Fox News is "fair and balanced" can't be operating with a full deck. That is the definition of stupid.

You want to talk about stupid. How about starting a thread on rating Obama on this site? What the hell did you think you were going to get except everyone thinking, I use that term loosely, being the worse president ever?

Guest
12-04-2015, 03:17 PM
Please confine your delusional rants to people who actually care.

How stupid does McConnell believe Republicans voters are? Apparently, really stupid. He went around the filibuster rule to pass a bill and repeals Obamacare, and stops funding for Planned Parenthood. What no repeal and replace! Who, in their right mind, doesn't think that Republican representatives aren't against the two items? He had to pass a bill to let the well informed Republican voters know how Republican Representatives stand on these two items. McConnell doesn't assume but knows Republican voters are really stupid. He beliefs are confirmed, because he knows that they only watch Fox News. Anyone that thinks Fox News is "fair and balanced" can't be operating with a full deck. That is the definition of stupid.

You want to talk about stupid. How about starting a thread on rating Obama on this site? What the hell did you think you were going to get except everyone thinking, I use that term loosely, being the worse president ever?

Guest
12-04-2015, 03:18 PM
How stupid does McConnell believe Republicans voters are? Apparently, really stupid. He went around the filibuster rule to pass a bill and repeals Obamacare, and stops funding for Planned Parenthood. What no repeal and replace! Who, in their right mind, doesn't think that Republican representatives aren't against the two items? He had to pass a bill to let the well informed Republican voters know how Republican Representatives stand on these two items. McConnell doesn't assume but knows Republican voters are really stupid. He beliefs are confirmed, because he knows that they only watch Fox News. Anyone that thinks Fox News is "fair and balanced" can't be operating with a full deck. That is the definition of stupid.

You want to talk about stupid. How about starting a thread on rating Obama on this site? What the hell did you think you were going to get except everyone thinking, I use that term loosely, being the worse president ever?

I could be mistaken, but it seems from your post that you are not a big fan of Republicans. You wouldn't happen to be a Democrat would you?:wave:

Guest
12-04-2015, 07:07 PM
I could be mistaken, but it seems from your post that you are not a big fan of Republicans. You wouldn't happen to be a Democrat would you?:wave:

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

Guest
12-04-2015, 07:18 PM
How stupid does McConnell believe Republicans voters are? Apparently, really stupid. He went around the filibuster rule to pass a bill and repeals Obamacare, and stops funding for Planned Parenthood. What no repeal and replace! Who, in their right mind, doesn't think that Republican representatives aren't against the two items? He had to pass a bill to let the well informed Republican voters know how Republican Representatives stand on these two items. McConnell doesn't assume but knows Republican voters are really stupid. He beliefs are confirmed, because he knows that they only watch Fox News. Anyone that thinks Fox News is "fair and balanced" can't be operating with a full deck. That is the definition of stupid.

You want to talk about stupid. How about starting a thread on rating Obama on this site? What the hell did you think you were going to get except everyone thinking, I use that term loosely, being the worse president ever?

Ok, I'll take the bait. What news channel do you feel is "fair and balanced?" As a matter of fact, where do you get your news? Certainly not from the local news media because they don't even cover half the news that FOX presents. Oh, and by the way, FOX gets a lot of their news from AP. They just broadcast a lot more of the news than any other channel. I realize that it's hard for some to face facts. Sometimes facts are just not pleasing to your ideology, right? Perhaps it's not FOX that's wrong, but you? After all, FOX wouldn't be the number one cable news network if not for you liberals. FOX thanks you for your participation.

Guest
12-04-2015, 11:51 PM
When I compare the news the lame stream media Presents VS fox,
I am always impressed with what they DO NOT report.

Guest
12-05-2015, 12:23 AM
Well, he sure flopped as the first black president. What a disappointment. But, I didn't vote for him so I am not responsible for the brain fart others had. As far as his golf is concerned, I understand he has improved, but I have no evidence to prove it. His standup comedy is average. His public image of his married life is his treating his wife like a sister, including a sisterly kiss. Some say he is a closet gay, but that's his business. His diplomacy when dealing with congress is pretty poor. He needs remedial leadership classes. His knowledge of the constitution is lacking, making one wonder if the stories of his teaching is over exaggerated. He is a bully and does not play well with others, making one think that he might have been an only child, raised by a single mother.

Over all, I would have to rate him at a D+ (being charitable)

Overall, I believe he ran into a bunch of heeled-in, bull-headed and bullying tea party types who wouldn't work with him under any circumstances. Don't forget the committee of people who decided early on that they would oppose absolutely anything he came up with.

And don't forget to give him credit for the raid on Al Quaida. if you're going to blame him for military failures even if he wasn't there, then you must give him credit for Osama bin Ladin.

Guest
12-05-2015, 04:46 AM
Overall, I believe he ran into a bunch of heeled-in, bull-headed and bullying tea party types who wouldn't work with him under any circumstances. Don't forget the committee of people who decided early on that they would oppose absolutely anything he came up with.

And don't forget to give him credit for the raid on Al Quaida. if you're going to blame him for military failures even if he wasn't there, then you must give him credit for Osama bin Ladin.

His many faults overshadow any merit he might be able to take credit for. But, I applaud your ability to consistently excuse his inept/inadequate attempts at Hope and Change. You are quite right, he is the only president that ever had to work with a partisan congress (???). Too bad he had two years unopposed and still the only accomplishment to his name is a bill that had to be passed in order to read it and find out what's in it. And then to find out that it was totally flawed and will probably bankrupt the nation on top of that. It's probably Bush's fault though. I wonder who you blame when you have no concept or gift of leadership. Maybe that is why he prefers to lead from behind. Where I went to school, they call that following but maybe the rumors that he is gay (after all he DID light up the White House in rainbow colors) made that position more favorable. Maybe we are all wrong, in our thoughts that he may just be too inexperienced at life to be running a large country. Or maybe he is a fraud.

Guest
12-05-2015, 04:51 AM
Overall, I believe he ran into a bunch of heeled-in, bull-headed and bullying tea party types who wouldn't work with him under any circumstances. Don't forget the committee of people who decided early on that they would oppose absolutely anything he came up with.

And don't forget to give him credit for the raid on Al Quaida. if you're going to blame him for military failures even if he wasn't there, then you must give him credit for Osama bin Ladin.

Yes, of course. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi didn't have a chance with all the bullying going on in congress.....???? Isn't it a shame when the people get fed up and change the consistency of congress because they realize that the leadership does not want to act according to the majority, but to what they believe is better for the people? As we all know, the masses do not know what's good for them so the liberals should decide.

Guest
12-05-2015, 07:51 AM
It's odd to me that I posted as a guest, and yet the replies are coming to my personal email (because my settings send me an email saying so-and-so has responded to my post). So I know who the people are who have posted here. I thought that was not supposed to happen and that we were all supposed to be anonymous. Maybe it's a part that TOTV overlooked when setting up the "guest" function. Need a better IT person!

Guest
12-05-2015, 07:59 AM
Kind of like the drug addict that complains about the quality of free dope.

Guest
12-07-2015, 05:50 AM
Best black President we ever had....time to move on

Guest
12-07-2015, 06:15 AM
Then perhaps we need to blame Bill Clinton for letting Osama Bin Laden go when he had the chance to nail him in the Sudan. Then 9 months later, we would not have had 9/11 nor Afghanistan war or Iraq war that Clinton and Biden voted for and Kerry was for but then he was not for it. Lots of blame to go around

Guest
12-07-2015, 06:32 AM
Then perhaps we need to blame Bill Clinton for letting Osama Bin Laden go when he had the chance to nail him in the Sudan. Then 9 months later, we would not have had 9/11 nor Afghanistan war or Iraq war that Clinton and Biden voted for and Kerry was for but then he was not for it. Lots of blame to go around

:thumbup:

Guest
12-07-2015, 08:47 AM
Donald Trump, said it all "We need a new president, FAST!"

Guest
12-07-2015, 09:05 AM
After careful thought, I retract my rating of D+ and give him a new rating of D-. I believe that is still fair and a bit generous, but I also believe that he must have had something going for him in order to fool some of the populace into voting for him twice. I have to give him some room to further drop in my opinion. I had to revise my first rating because it was higher than the D that I had awarded Jimmy "the peanut" Carter. And even though Carter was the worst president in history, I now believe that this president has stolen that position in history.

Guest
12-07-2015, 09:06 AM
Donald Trump, said it all "We need a new president, FAST!"

Just not the Donald.

Guest
12-07-2015, 09:13 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_St ates

Cannot see how President Barack Obama nor Jimmy Carter could be seen as the worst US Presidents. There have been those who seemed to be pretty much in it for the graft.

Guest
12-07-2015, 09:19 AM
It's odd to me that I posted as a guest, and yet the replies are coming to my personal email (because my settings send me an email saying so-and-so has responded to my post). So I know who the people are who have posted here. I thought that was not supposed to happen and that we were all supposed to be anonymous. Maybe it's a part that TOTV overlooked when setting up the "guest" function. Need a better IT person!

Does that change anything. Most of us prefer to be known by our regular TOTV avitar....which is anonymous (mostly).....then guest is anonymous anonymous!

Guest
12-07-2015, 09:25 AM
It's amazing how "some" people blame Obama for everything they deem wrong in our country but make excuses for everything "their" party does wrong.

Guest
12-07-2015, 09:27 AM
Yup, that is about as racist a comment as I have seen posted here.

Guest
12-07-2015, 09:29 AM
Good Lord, how do you sleep at night?

Guest
12-07-2015, 09:31 AM
It's amazing how "some" people blame Obama for everything they deem wrong in our country but make excuses for everything "their" party does wrong.

It is the Supreme Court, the President and then Congress which seem to have the most influence in DC. Takes all three to make the mess that is US politics in 2015. The Citizens United case seems IMHO to be one of the worst mistakes in taking out many of the effectual checks-and-balances.

Maybe, Donald Trump is trustworthy and he will work for the majority of Americans but how are we to know given how many lies he has put out there that can be quite easily ascertained as lies?

Guest
12-07-2015, 09:42 AM
Sometimes I wonder if conservatives ever look beyond charm to elect a President. It seems most of them never check the voting history of any of the candidates to see if a bill they voted on helps or hurts the majority of the people. What seems to be important to most conservatives is whether or not someone saluted the flag, dressed appropriately or took holidays. Pretty superficial reasons for electing a candidate.

Guest
12-07-2015, 09:46 AM
Sometimes I wonder if conservatives ever look beyond charm to elect a President. It seems most of them never check the voting history of any of the candidates to see if a bill they voted on helps or hurts the majority of the people. What seems to be important to most conservatives is whether or not someone saluted the flag, dressed appropriately or took holidays. Pretty superficial reasons for electing a candidate.

That's hilarious considering Obama got elected, not once but twice. You would think that liberals would have done their research before electing him with his poor record. Must have been his "charm." Pretty superficial reason to elect him.

Guest
12-07-2015, 09:51 AM
It's amazing how "some" people blame Obama for everything they deem wrong in our country but make excuses for everything "their" party does wrong.

Of course, you must be right! After all, don't you just hate it when someone blames the past president for "everything they deem wrong in our country and make excuses for.." this inept president? And, have we ever had another president that went two terms blaming his inability to "change" America on his predecessor, or the "other" party? I mean, how could someone with such a giant ego, be so inept....right?

Guest
12-07-2015, 10:01 AM
Burnt out dope head that proves that Affirmative Action is a waste of taxpayers' money. You asked so don't castigate me for being honest in my opinion.

Guest
12-07-2015, 01:55 PM
Burnt out dope head that proves that Affirmative Action is a waste of taxpayers' money. You asked so don't castigate me for being honest in my opinion.

...and we have a prime contender for this week's Villages Tea Party White Sheet Award. It will be presented at the weekly cross burning ceremony.

Guest
12-07-2015, 05:12 PM
...and we have a prime contender for this week's Villages Tea Party White Sheet Award. It will be presented at the weekly cross burning ceremony.

Typical liberal racist rant. What an idiotic reply to an honest answer. But, why would one expect anything different from the ignorant.

Guest
12-07-2015, 05:38 PM
Typical liberal racist rant. What an idiotic reply to an honest answer. But, why would one expect anything different from the ignorant.

Get back in your troll hole. No one wants to hear from you talking to yourself in the guise of different "guests".

You and the other three neo-conservative losers on here are boring and way past your time of being relevant.

Guest
12-07-2015, 07:01 PM
Get back in your troll hole. No one wants to hear from you talking to yourself in the guise of different "guests".

You and the other three neo-conservative losers on here are boring and way past your time of being relevant.

Yeah, right. I have no reason to talk to myself as long as idiot liberal trolls keep responding with lame comments about the Tea Party or whatever. You should few privileged that anyone even responds to you on here. After all, it is a Villages forum, not high school. So mind your manners.

Guest
12-07-2015, 07:10 PM
Get back in your troll hole. No one wants to hear from you talking to yourself in the guise of different "guests".

You and the other three neo-conservative losers on here are boring and way past your time of being relevant.

Oh wow you have a guest distinguisher....the amount of BS has no bounds.

Guest
12-07-2015, 07:48 PM
Get back in your troll hole. No one wants to hear from you talking to yourself in the guise of different "guests".

You and the other three neo-conservative losers on here are boring and way past your time of being relevant.

Neo-conservative loser? I'd gladly compare my accomplishments in life and net worth to yours - LOSER!

Guest
12-07-2015, 09:23 PM
Back to the President and his rating -

After last night's speech I'd give him a ZERO, for no effort shown!

Guest
12-07-2015, 11:16 PM
Neo-conservative loser? I'd gladly compare my accomplishments in life and net worth to yours - LOSER!

Would this be considered a lateral arabesque?

Guest
12-07-2015, 11:22 PM
Would this be considered a lateral arabesque?

Only in that it applies to you and yours.

Guest
12-08-2015, 05:19 AM
Even though Obama has fallen even further after his oval(tine) office lecture, I can't in good conscience lower the D- grade I have given him. He is a pathetic excuse for a person in this leadership position, and also a bad actor. If he falls any further in my view, he will be on par with a Muslim domestic terrorist, but not yet the International variety. Americans really need to be more discerning in their qualification screening for future presidents. He really is the worst selection for this position up to this date. Let's not make the same mistake again. Until recently, I thought it disgusting and demeaning when he lectured America like he was speaking to children, but then I realized how the need for leadership in this country is so desperate. But liberals seem to associate the need for leadership with the need for a celebrity entertainer. Obama is definitely inept and is too stupid to realize that instead of making foolish comments and decisions based on ego, he should listen to experienced advisers. Unfortunately, instead of experienced advisers, he hired radical supporters with their own individual agendas. He is a pathetic failure and it's no one's fault except himself, with a bit of blame going to those that voted for him based purely on avarice.

Guest
12-08-2015, 10:00 AM
Only in that it applies to you and yours.

At some point we look forward to an original ststement that does more than just reflect or bounce back what was said by someone else.

Now if I could only find the bite me emoticon!

Guest
12-08-2015, 03:52 PM
It's quite shameful of how the president is talked about now compared with presidents of the past. President Obama has done what few others could do with such hateful opposition from Congress! It's disgraceful how the President of the United States has been talked about here and around the U.S., they should be ashamed! To show their ignorance people spout opinions about his lack of Constitutional knowledge yet he is a graduate of Harvard in Constitutional Law! Pathetic ignorance.

You may want to check your incorrect facts. For his first two years the democrats controlled both houses of congress-not the according to you the evil republicans.
Unlike MANDELLA Obama hitched his wagon to racial divisiveness. Obama claimed it was Bushes fault and Republican fault then you and he can't figure out why people would refuse to compromise with a person who who refuses to compromise.
Bushes first act as president was to meet with Kennedy leader of the opposition and work together to create NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND-education was important to both of them.
Obama's first act as president was to declare it is all Bushes fault, blame the republicans for everything and to follow the view of his father TALES OF MY FATHER and declare that whites OWE ALL OTHERS.
RESULT-MANDELLA LEFT HIS COUNTRY FAR MORE UNITED AND IN BETTER FINANCIAL SHAPE THEN WHEN HE TOOK OFFICE. OBAMA WILL LEAVE MY COUNTRY MORE DIVIDED THEN IT HAS EVER BEEN AND NINE MORE TRILLION ADDED TO THE DEBT. OBAMA HAS DONE ONE MEMORABLE THING-HE HAS REPLACED JIMMY CARTER IN THE POSITION OF THE WORST PRESIDENT IN MY LIFETIME.

Guest
12-08-2015, 04:22 PM
You may want to check your incorrect facts. For his first two years the democrats controlled both houses of congress-not the according to you the evil republicans.
Unlike MANDELLA Obama hitched his wagon to racial divisiveness. Obama claimed it was Bushes fault and Republican fault then you and he can't figure out why people would refuse to compromise with a person who who refuses to compromise.
Bushes first act as president was to meet with Kennedy leader of the opposition and work together to create NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND-education was important to both of them.
Obama's first act as president was to declare it is all Bushes fault, blame the republicans for everything and to follow the view of his father TALES OF MY FATHER and declare that whites OWE ALL OTHERS.
RESULT-MANDELLA LEFT HIS COUNTRY FAR MORE UNITED AND IN BETTER FINANCIAL SHAPE THEN WHEN HE TOOK OFFICE. OBAMA WILL LEAVE MY COUNTRY MORE DIVIDED THEN IT HAS EVER BEEN AND NINE MORE TRILLION ADDED TO THE DEBT. OBAMA HAS DONE ONE MEMORABLE THING-HE HAS REPLACED JIMMY CARTER IN THE POSITION OF THE WORST PRESIDENT IN MY LIFETIME.
Why all the yelling?

Guest
12-08-2015, 04:23 PM
I certainly hope you are kidding. Or perhaps you are the one person in the world who is privy to his transcripts

Guest
12-08-2015, 04:38 PM
You may want to check your incorrect facts. For his first two years the democrats controlled both houses of congress-not the according to you the evil republicans.
Unlike MANDELLA Obama hitched his wagon to racial divisiveness. Obama claimed it was Bushes fault and Republican fault then you and he can't figure out why people would refuse to compromise with a person who who refuses to compromise.
Bushes first act as president was to meet with Kennedy leader of the opposition and work together to create NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND-education was important to both of them.
Obama's first act as president was to declare it is all Bushes fault, blame the republicans for everything and to follow the view of his father TALES OF MY FATHER and declare that whites OWE ALL OTHERS.
RESULT-MANDELLA LEFT HIS COUNTRY FAR MORE UNITED AND IN BETTER FINANCIAL SHAPE THEN WHEN HE TOOK OFFICE. OBAMA WILL LEAVE MY COUNTRY MORE DIVIDED THEN IT HAS EVER BEEN AND NINE MORE TRILLION ADDED TO THE DEBT. OBAMA HAS DONE ONE MEMORABLE THING-HE HAS REPLACED JIMMY CARTER IN THE POSITION OF THE WORST PRESIDENT IN MY LIFETIME.

:thumbup:

Guest
12-09-2015, 09:11 AM
You blame, we blame. Gets us far as a country doesn't it!

Guest
12-09-2015, 09:15 AM
It's pretty obvious that your only statistics come from Fox News. How about reading some unbiased opinions just once in your life.

Guest
12-09-2015, 09:20 AM
I don't think you would have wanted to take over Presidency from Bush. He was disliked by both parties when he left because he almost took this country down. 8 years he was in and look at his legacy. By the way, do you know anyone who was ever denied health coverage for pre-existing conditions? I sure did having done appeals for one of the big insurance companies. Funny, how that went away when ACA was enacted. I seriously do not want to get into a nit picking match with you, wouldn't be worth it.

Guest
12-09-2015, 09:38 AM
There are extreme right and extreme left opinions all over this publication. Most of the tirades that I have read here are based on opinions, not true facts. I want to know what kind of example the Obama haters set for the kids of the future with their constant disparaging remarks about the President of the United States, the ELECTED President of the United States!!!!! TWICE!!!! Whether you agree or disagree with things he has done has nothing to do with the disrespect that has been shown the President of the United States. To deny him as your President is not only unpatriotic, it certainly displays the depravity that has been allowed to wreak havoc in our country. Pointing fingers, name calling, idle threats........... is that what America is about? What has happened to pride of country, pride of what America stands for, pride to be an American and the willingness to work together with a system that WE have put in place. I, for one, am disgusted by the hate, disrespect and ignorant comments that I have seen and heard. As a Democrat, I have every right to live in TV as any Republican and expect to be treated with dignity and maturity. If Republicans don't like that, then I invite them to leave.

Guest
12-09-2015, 10:43 AM
There are extreme right and extreme left opinions all over this publication. Most of the tirades that I have read here are based on opinions, not true facts. I want to know what kind of example the Obama haters set for the kids of the future with their constant disparaging remarks about the President of the United States, the ELECTED President of the United States!!!!! TWICE!!!! Whether you agree or disagree with things he has done has nothing to do with the disrespect that has been shown the President of the United States. To deny him as your President is not only unpatriotic, it certainly displays the depravity that has been allowed to wreak havoc in our country. Pointing fingers, name calling, idle threats........... is that what America is about? What has happened to pride of country, pride of what America stands for, pride to be an American and the willingness to work together with a system that WE have put in place. I, for one, am disgusted by the hate, disrespect and ignorant comments that I have seen and heard. As a Democrat, I have every right to live in TV as any Republican and expect to be treated with dignity and maturity. If Republicans don't like that, then I invite them to leave.

You defintely have a bias to your commentary.
I am as patriotic as the good lord can make us.
I acknowledge and respect the office of the president of the USA.
I do not respect the incumbent. That has nothing to do with my feelings toward America.
Obama is not entitled to the respect for some of us if we think he is not doing the job. Or if he is not doing the will of the people. Or if we view that too much of what he does and says is racially motivated. Or if we disagree with him on his views and lanck of action against radical islamic terrorists.

And oh by the way news flah.....because some of us feel as we do toward Obama does not automatically result in us being republicans as you so blatantly present.

Last I checked we still had our free speech. And free speech does not mean one has to blindly follow, accept, believe, condone that which this president does or not......it does not mean some of us have to agree with what you believe. And we do accept that free speech means YOU can believe what you want and say what you want.

Free speech even allows some to rant that if we do not agree with YOUR position we are in the wrong.

And that door you so rudely invite those who do agree with you to use....does swing both ways....so feel free to use it and don't let it hit you in the a$$ on the way out!:D

Guest
12-09-2015, 11:13 AM
You defintely have a bias to your commentary.
I am as patriotic as the good lord can make us.
I acknowledge and respect the office of the president of the USA.
I do not respect the incumbent. That has nothing to do with my feelings toward America.
Obama is not entitled to the respect for some of us if we think he is not doing the job. Or if he is not doing the will of the people. Or if we view that too much of what he does and says is racially motivated. Or if we disagree with him on his views and lanck of action against radical islamic terrorists.

And oh by the way news flah.....because some of us feel as we do toward Obama does not automatically result in us being republicans as you so blatantly present.

Last I checked we still had our free speech. And free speech does not mean one has to blindly follow, accept, believe, condone that which this president does or not......it does not mean some of us have to agree with what you believe. And we do accept that free speech means YOU can believe what you want and say what you want.

Free speech even allows some to rant that if we do not agree with YOUR position we are in the wrong.

And that door you so rudely invite those who do agree with you to use....does swing both ways....so feel free to use it and don't let it hit you in the a$$ on the way out!:D

:agree:....Thank you for saying that for me. It gets tiring when dealing with fanatical, blindly led and totally humiliated liberals that adamantly defend the most inept president we have ever had. For some reason they take it personal when he is rightly criticized.

Guest
12-09-2015, 11:21 AM
There are extreme right and extreme left opinions all over this publication. Most of the tirades that I have read here are based on opinions, not true facts. I want to know what kind of example the Obama haters set for the kids of the future with their constant disparaging remarks about the President of the United States, the ELECTED President of the United States!!!!! TWICE!!!! Whether you agree or disagree with things he has done has nothing to do with the disrespect that has been shown the President of the United States. To deny him as your President is not only unpatriotic, it certainly displays the depravity that has been allowed to wreak havoc in our country. Pointing fingers, name calling, idle threats........... is that what America is about? What has happened to pride of country, pride of what America stands for, pride to be an American and the willingness to work together with a system that WE have put in place. I, for one, am disgusted by the hate, disrespect and ignorant comments that I have seen and heard. As a Democrat, I have every right to live in TV as any Republican and expect to be treated with dignity and maturity. If Republicans don't like that, then I invite them to leave.

Hah! You are so funny! Invite us to leave? Hate to burst your bubble but the majority of the Villages is conservative. And most of the Democrats that I associate with in my neighborhood, can't stand Obama either. They are disappointed in him, and think he is the worst possible choice they could have made. It appears that IF you are a resident, you are in the minority, politically. SO, I have no plan to move from here. Even though I have resided in many countries and different states and can live anywhere, I moved here for my wife. She loves it here and that's all that matters to me. So, if you are humiliated and want to cry because we don't agree with you or your liberal messiah, don't blame us if we are low on sympathy. Obama has taxed it, and executive ordered it till there is nothing left to share.
And as far as "ignorant comments" is concerned, be careful throwing rocks without first opening your window. :Screen_of_Death:

Guest
12-13-2015, 09:19 AM
Scream and yell at me all you want. The bottom line is that the GOP has done nothing but make fools of themselves, stomp their feet, and refuse to even try to do anything that is good for the majority of people in this country.

Guest
12-13-2015, 09:38 AM
There are extreme right and extreme left opinions all over this publication. Most of the tirades that I have read here are based on opinions, not true facts. I want to know what kind of example the Obama haters set for the kids of the future with their constant disparaging remarks about the President of the United States, the ELECTED President of the United States!!!!! TWICE!!!! Whether you agree or disagree with things he has done has nothing to do with the disrespect that has been shown the President of the United States. To deny him as your President is not only unpatriotic, it certainly displays the depravity that has been allowed to wreak havoc in our country. Pointing fingers, name calling, idle threats........... is that what America is about? What has happened to pride of country, pride of what America stands for, pride to be an American and the willingness to work together with a system that WE have put in place. I, for one, am disgusted by the hate, disrespect and ignorant comments that I have seen and heard. As a Democrat, I have every right to live in TV as any Republican and expect to be treated with dignity and maturity. If Republicans don't like that, then I invite them to leave.
I'm a real conservative, that is one that thinks we should paid for their own spending instead of passing it on to next generation. There is a real difference. That said your post was spot on but you should have stayed away from identifying yourself as a Democrat.

Guest
12-13-2015, 10:43 AM
Scream and yell at me all you want. The bottom line is that the GOP has done nothing but make fools of themselves, stomp their feet, and refuse to even try to do anything that is good for the majority of people in this country.

And perhaps when you wake up you can list all the good that the dems have done....to make it a challenge we will disallow the free hand out and so called support, subsidy, vote retaining give aways.

The other issur is when you say "...the GOP..." it would be very helpfull to identify who you are peaking about as in Trump or other. If you mean the party in general well we ALL know the same paint brush does not cut it....even for democrats.

Guest
12-13-2015, 12:18 PM
Scream and yell at me all you want. The bottom line is that the GOP has done nothing but make fools of themselves, stomp their feet, and refuse to even try to do anything that is good for the majority of people in this country.

Please say hello to those GOP reps, Grayson, Reid, Pelosi, Weiner and Debbie Whatshername for me when you get a chance. Oh, not GOP? You were mentioning "making fools of themselves, stomping their feet and refuse to even try to do anything that is good for the majority," so all I could remember was those loud mouths, two of which were thrown out of congress. The only thing that the Dems have accomplished in the last 8 years is double the debt, and pass Obamacare, which the majority did NOT want. But, live your delusion like all the other little liberals.

Giolinh
12-15-2015, 02:44 AM
What exactly has this fraud done other than allow ISIS to grow almost unabated, allowed our National Debt to accumulate to the extent that we are about to implode, shoved a "healthcare" plan down our throats that will bankrupt not only us but the country, misused the US Treasury as his own bank account, and one more for now, set us up to sink under the weight of the "Obama Refugee Pilgrims"? 22 vets commit suicide everyday---we have thousands of homeless vets. Yet, Obama can find the funds to shelter, feed, etc thousands but can't seem to find a dime to shelter our vets living on the streets. Constitutional Lawyer? After law school, he had trouble getting into a law firm because he is not only lazy but flat out dumb! Check it out! Note-I am also an attorney. One that worked in the courtroom for many years. I never used a teleprompter, not once!! S/F