Reasonable Gun Control

[Guest]

The President has said it is insane to allow people who are on the "No Fly List" to legally purchase guns. The Republicans in Congress will not even discuss the issue. Why not? Is it just because the Democrat President has a very good idea and the Republicans will not go along with ANY idea from this President? Yep, that is the reason.

I also heard a snippet from one of Ted Cruz's speeches in Iowa. He was literally ranting and said it is a "God given right" for Americans to own guns. Where in the Bible does it mention that Americans can own guns?

[Guest]

I also noticed that the President now calls "gun control legislation, "gun safety legislation". Kinda like how the Left's old "global warming" terminology evolved into the new "climate change". Both seem to be more palatable to those with their heads buried in the sand.

[Guest]

I also noticed that the President now calls "gun control legislation, "gun safety legislation". Kinda like how the Left's old "global warming" terminology evolved into the new "climate change". Both seem to be more palatable to those with their heads buried in the sand.

Changing names is not important. You did not answer: 1. Do you think the President is right in saying it is insane to allow persons on the No Fly List to be able to legally purchase guns and ammunition?

2. Where in the Bible does it specifically mention that Americans have the right to own guns?

[Guest]

Terrorists and criminals don't have to buy guns legally to do an illegal deed. Besides both of the terrorists were NOT on on the no-fly list. None of the people who cross our borders are vetted and there is now way to vet refugees who have no papers.
Another thing many people on the no-fly list are on it by mistake. The govt. could put everyone on the no-fly list and then no-one could buy a gun.

[Guest]

The govt. could put everyone on the no-fly list and then no-one could buy a gun.

Feeling paranoid?

Looneytune Jerry Falwell, Jr, wants all the students at Liberty University to carry guns.

How about all students carrying guns at the Florida-Florida State game?

[Guest]

Feeling paranoid?

Looneytune Jerry Falwell, Jr, wants all the students at Liberty University to carry guns.

How about all students carrying guns at the Florida-Florida State game?

This would make for some very tense moments when someone does not get their way.

[Guest]

The President has said it is insane to allow people who are on the "No Fly List" to legally purchase guns. The Republicans in Congress will not even discuss the issue. Why not? Is it just because the Democrat President has a very good idea and the Republicans will not go along with ANY idea from this President? Yep, that is the reason.

I also heard a snippet from one of Ted Cruz's speeches in Iowa. He was literally ranting and said it is a "God given right" for Americans to own guns. Where in the Bible does it mention that Americans can own guns?

does it say muslim's must kill non-muslims?

The reason...since you ask....isn't because he's a democrat...only a person with an infantile mind would think that....the reason is because he's an idiot....you must feel a great connection with him...

[Guest]

The President has said it is insane to allow people who are on the "No Fly List" to legally purchase guns. The Republicans in Congress will not even discuss the issue. Why not? Is it just because the Democrat President has a very good idea and the Republicans will not go along with ANY idea from this President? Yep, that is the reason.

I also heard a snippet from one of Ted Cruz's speeches in Iowa. He was literally ranting and said it is a "God given right" for Americans to own guns. Where in the Bible does it mention that Americans can own guns?

Would this have made ANY difference in ANY of the mass shootings? Why is it that when liberals want to fix something, they do it stupidly? It's like a liberal seeing someone killed in a car accident, will say lets paint the cars red, instead of something logical like let's put in seatbelts. Is it really reasonable to do something, just for the sake of acting like you are doing something? Even when it doesn't do anything?

No is the answer to your question. It is a stupid idea that will make no difference. If you want to stop terrorism, you have to have a good intelligence system. Period.

[Guest]

Columnist Jim Geraghty wrote: "He (Obama) ominously declared, "this is a matter of national security", yet for some reason, all of those people on the no-fly list and the terror watch list who allegedly represent a national security threat aren't being arrested. Earlier today Rep. Stephen Lynch (D., Mass.) disclosed that a congressional investigation recently found that at least 72 people working at the Department of Homeland Security also "were on the terrorist watch list."

You know who wasn't on the no-fly list? The San Bernardino shooters. Nor was the Fort Hood shooter. Nor the Boston bombers. Nor the Chattanooga shooter. In other words, no perpetrator of any major attack on American soil was on the no-fly list."

[Guest]

Columnist Jim Geraghty wrote: "He (Obama) ominously declared, "this is a matter of national security", yet for some reason, all of those people on the no-fly list and the terror watch list who allegedly represent a national security threat aren't being arrested. Earlier today Rep. Stephen Lynch (D., Mass.) disclosed that a congressional investigation recently found that at least 72 people working at the Department of Homeland Security also "were on the terrorist watch list."

You know who wasn't on the no-fly list? The San Bernardino shooters. Nor was the Fort Hood shooter. Nor the Boston bombers. Nor the Chattanooga shooter. In other words, no perpetrator of any major attack on American soil was on the no-fly list."

None of that matters to Liberals. Just pass some, any, meaningless legislation and it will help them sleep better at night.

[Guest]

We already have "reasonable gun control." What more do we need? Tell you what, how about gun safety? Teach all high school kids gun safety and gun law. Make it mandatory that ALL children go through it, unless they are conscientious objectors of war and violence and will never have an occasion to handle a fire arm. Either that or institute a military conscript program and draft everyone for a year or two and give them discipline and military training.

We have gun laws and we have back ground checks. There is absolutely no way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, so figure out a deterrent, hard punishment for gun related violations.

No fly list??? What a stupid idea. Only a moron would come up with an idea like that.

[Guest]

waste of time bait thread.

[Guest]

I think you would have to change the 2nd amendment to do what you want,and I really dont think you want that. The more rights that are taken away the worse off this country gets. The best thing to do is make it mandatory for every American citizen to learn how to use a gun and have one. This should be subsidized by the federal government. Do the proper back round checks that we do now. Then it should be open carry. That will end a lot of violence.

[Guest]

IMO we should be like Switzerland. Every law bidding citzen (not convicted crinmals or declare insane, that the f$$king list they should also be monitoring) household issued government fully automatic m16 in 308 calb., two cans ammo minimum, And require two years of military training.:police: It just may come to that one day?

I'll hold off on the issue 9mm Glock as being too much:wave:

[Guest]

At least it appears that everyone on here is on board with the same conclusion that worrying about the "no fly" list is just stupid. When have we ever had an occasion to get shot at by someone on the "no fly" list? Maybe Obama should go back to making executive orders declaring National Coffee week or something.

[Guest]

There is a bigger issue here in that internationalist are using every means for what they term a global reset. A global reset means that America becomes a shell of its former self. Obama is an internationalist and he has demonstrated that he can not hide his disdain for America.

The Daily Beast on behalf of progressives makes the ridiculous claim that the 2nd Amendment was written to protect white slave owners from a servile insurrection.

The foundation for the 2nd Amendment is a result of the following historical fact:

James II a catholic was faced with his nation becoming overwhelming Protestant. He tried to use his authority to restrict the rights of Protestants. James II was overthrown in the Glorious Revolution. The monarchs William III and Mary II created the English Bill of Rights with said right being the right to bear arms.

The founders (colonist) were faced with the same situation from Britain and hence included the 2nd Amendment as they recalled British history and the rationale for the English Bill of Rights.

Progressive seem to ignore history. James II represents the rule of men
whereas the 2nd amendment represents the rule of law.
This nation was founded upon the principle of the rule of law.
We must protect all of our rights

The gun control issue is a red herring perpetrated by progressives

We must not let anyone restrict our rights.

The term "reasonable gun control" is an opening to taking away all rights.

As a citizen of this nation you must choose either to follow the rule of law or to follow the rule of men. In my humble view its a no brainer because when government chooses they usually choose wrong. when government rules its people become subservant.

Again this is all about the bigger plan called global reset and I for one believe in American exceptionalism even if Obama the Terrible does not.

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

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[Guest]

There is a bigger issue here in that internationalist are using every means for what they term a global reset. A global reset means that America becomes a shell of its former self. Obama is an internationalist and he has demonstrated that he can not hide his disdain for America.

The Daily Beast on behalf of progressives makes the ridiculous claim that the 2nd Amendment was written to protect white slave owners from a servile insurrection.

The foundation for the 2nd Amendment is a result of the following historical fact:

James II a catholic was faced with his nation becoming overwhelming Protestant. He tried to use his authority to restrict the rights of Protestants. James II was overthrown in the Glorious Revolution. The monarchs William III and Mary II created the English Bill of Rights with said right being the right to bear arms.

The founders (colonist) were faced with the same situation from Britain and hence included the 2nd Amendment as they recalled British history and the rationale for the English Bill of Rights.

Progressive seem to ignore history. James II represents the rule of men
whereas the 2nd amendment represents the rule of law.
This nation was founded upon the principle of the rule of law.
We must protect all of our rights

The gun control issue is a red herring perpetrated by progressives

We must not let anyone restrict our rights.

The term "reasonable gun control" is an opening to taking away all rights.

As a citizen of this nation you must choose either to follow the rule of law or to follow the rule of men. In my humble view its a no brainer because when government chooses they usually choose wrong. when government rules its people become subservant.

Again this is all about the bigger plan called global reset and I for one believe in American exceptionalism even if Obama the Terrible does not.

Personal Best Regards:

As you are quite aware, facts mean nothing to liberals. Liberal, juvenile rhetoric and name calling is within their ideological guidelines.

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[Guest]

As you are quite aware, facts mean nothing to liberals. Liberal, juvenile rhetoric and name calling is within their ideological guidelines.

Dear Guest: Your exactly right. The unfortunate fact is that progressives cannot deal with the reality of evil. So they inveigh against guns instead of what motivates people to use gun to achieve their horribles.

New York City had an excellent best gun control policy. It was called "stop and frisk" which kept guns out of the hands of the people who should not be carrying them "bad guys". But along comes a progressive, actually a marxist and the effective measure is eliminated.

So let's follow the logic
If guns kill people then we need gun control.

Vehicles are used to kill people so lets have vehicle control

Pressure cookers were used to kill people so let's have pressure cooker control

Box cutters were used to kill people so let hav box cutter control

Shoes were used to try and kill people so let's have shoe control

Underwear were used to attempt to kill people so let's have underwear control.

Or we could admit that we have in our midst Islamic terrorists who hate our way of life

Or we could admit that our mental health system is a total disaster and needs to be reworked to help mental health patents and their families

But that requires serious and deep thinking and mostly logical approaches something progressives seem to be lacking these days . and yet they rally for safe spaces.

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

Little known fact. To date, precisely one person placed on the “no-fly” list has been responsible for the death of an American citizen, and that person is dearly departed Democrat Senator Ted Kennedy.

[Guest]

Little known fact. To date, precisely one person placed on the “no-fly” list has been responsible for the death of an American citizen, and that person is dearly departed Democrat Senator Ted Kennedy.

And he didn't even use a gun, so I guess that rules out the one possibility. Maybe anyone on the "no-fly" list should be banned from purchasing an automobile...:1rotfl:

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Now that is just going to ruin the day for some hot air distributing partisan parrots!

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And this one will surely cause the ratchet jawing hammering by anti gunners to take pause!!

[Guest]

And this one will surely cause the ratchet jawing hammering by anti gunners to take pause!!

I think I heard some heads exploding.

[Guest]

Since college and pro sports events are gun free zones, it stands to reason that terrorists will come there and run onto the field and spray the crowds with bullets.

Why not encourage all attendees at college and pro sports events to carry guns and extra ammo to all the events?

Now, what could possibly go wrong with that plan?

[Guest]

Since college and pro sports events are gun free zones, it stands to reason that terrorists will come there and run onto the field and spray the crowds with bullets.

Why not encourage all attendees at college and pro sports events to carry guns and extra ammo to all the events?

Now, what could possibly go wrong with that plan?

Maybe the highlight is not what you intended to say, because it would be the least effective.

Given the suicidal bomber shooter they would more likely plan and do something where the crowds are the greatest and the least immediate threat to them....allowing more time to do more damage.....as a result the tunnels and access ways before, during and after the events are high density with people.

And the obvious density of any section in the stands.

In any event the need for situational awareness is a must. And the need for see something say something to become a real tool for prevention.....appologies are much easier to do than condolences.

[Guest]

Maybe the highlight is not what you intended to say, because it would be the least effective.

Given the suicidal bomber shooter they would more likely plan and do something where the crowds are the greatest and the least immediate threat to them....allowing more time to do more damage.....as a result the tunnels and access ways before, during and after the events are high density with people.

And the obvious density of any section in the stands.

In any event the need for situational awareness is a must. And the need for see something say something to become a real tool for prevention.....appologies are much easier to do than condolences.


Maybe I have not thought out the places where terrorists would get the most victims - as it seems you have.

However, the point still stands. At college and pro sports events, there will be up to 90,000 people in attendance - all in a gun free zone. Wouldn't this be a perfect soft target? Why screen for guns on spectators instead of encouraging everyone to pack their guns and ammo in case of a terrorist attack?

[Guest]

You do realize that the shooting in Oregon did NOT take place in a gun free zone. There were people packing on campus but did not engage the shooter.

The last school shooting in Aurora Colorado also did not take place in a gun free zone as an armed guard was on campus.

These facts fly in the face of the GUN FREE ZONE myth

[Guest]

You do realize that the shooting in Oregon did NOT take place in a gun free zone. There were people packing on campus but did not engage the shooter.

The last school shooting in Aurora Colorado also did not take place in a gun free zone as an armed guard was on campus.

These facts fly in the face of the GUN FREE ZONE myth

Do you or anybody else know if the gun packing were even in the vacinity of the shooters??

"...an armed guard was on campus..."? Does anybody know if the armed gurad was in the vacinity of the shotter(s)?

If one can't supply the facts of the matter/situation there is no value added from the multitude of assumptions or guesses about the role played.

Maybe it sounds good to the uninformed!

[Guest]

Do you or anybody else know if the gun packing were even in the vacinity of the shooters??

"...an armed guard was on campus..."? Does anybody know if the armed gurad was in the vacinity of the shotter(s)?

If one can't supply the facts of the matter/situation there is no value added from the multitude of assumptions or guesses about the role played.

Maybe it sounds good to the uninformed!

Exactly. And then when you call them out on it, they suddenly disappear. Hit and run cowards....just like terrorists.

[Guest]

Hoping to come upon some intelligent exchange of ideas about gun ownership I read this thread. I can only assume there are two posters trying to out Hannity themselves on this forum. I can believe more than two would make some of the statements I read.

[Guest]

Hoping to come upon some intelligent exchange of ideas about gun ownership I read this thread. I can only assume there are two posters trying to out Hannity themselves on this forum. I can believe more than two would make some of the statements I read.

Ignoring those that do not contribute to your quest, what did you have in mind regarding "...ideas about gun ownership..."?

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Exactly. And then when you call them out on it, they suddenly disappear. Hit and run cowards....just like terrorists.

This forum is a lost cause as long as the GUEST identification continues.

It seems so often that one guy or two have an ongoing conversation with themselves to generate some fun.

It is also unfair not to know who the posters are that destroy anyone else having an open conversation.

Shame but it is a reality.

[Guest]

We are several days removed from the nonsensical Obama suggestion of limitations on certain citizen's rights. We see the left wing LA Times (and others) now admitting that restricting anything to a group of citizens who have never been convicted of any crime (or even accused) is clearly unconstitutional. Surely this must have occurred to our ex constitutional professor President. To think not would mean he's a complete dolt. I can't go there even though I don't think he's the sharpest tack in the drawer. I prefer option B.

Option B is a "stray voltage" campaign. Obama is taking incoming fire on his national security failures from the San Bernardino events. Change the topic by making a proposal so outlandish as to grab the attention of the talking heads. The topic cannot have a direct connection to the recent event, must be controversial, and, ideally, have no chance of actually doing or changing anything. Just get them talking about something else.

Democrats are very good at this. They can count on their legion of operatives and the main stream media (but I repeat myself) to go along. The entire topic will evaporate in the end.

It is very likely that all or some of the posters in favor of this Obama proposal are part of the campaign. To think otherwise would mean that some of our neighbors are sentient beings who have grown to older age and actually believe that it is perfectly sensible to restrict the rights of citizens who have been put on a secret list by unknown people for an unknown reason. That would mean they are truly dolts. I don't believe that.

[Guest]

Hoping to come upon some intelligent exchange of ideas about gun ownership I read this thread. I can only assume there are two posters trying to out Hannity themselves on this forum. I can believe more than two would make some of the statements I read.

Sure, like anyone is going to believe that. Trolling for a reaction? Is this good enough for you? Bye..:wave:

[Guest]

Ignoring those that do not contribute to your quest, what did you have in mind regarding "...ideas about gun ownership..."?
This forum is no place for a respectful exchange of ideas on anything. I've seem more intelligent statements written in a Waffle House bathroom stall. It is a little unfortunate as are a great number of very intelligent residents in this community that might join if there was a little more civility. I don't consider myself one of the intelligent ones, I'm here only for the entertainment.

[Guest]

As long as we have our Congress taking all their contributions from the NRA, we will not have reasonable gun control.

[Guest]

As long as we have our Congress taking all their contributions from the NRA, we will not have reasonable gun control.

Like the the democrats don't take contributions from every tom dick and Harry. :Screen_of_Death:

[Guest]

As long as we have our Congress taking all their contributions from the NRA, we will not have reasonable gun control.

buried in that comment somewhere is a contrived definition of what reasonable gun control means.

There are some of us who believe what is in place now is reasonable. The problem as in so many of our laws of the land is the slective enforcement.

Add to the already reasonable gun control laws all the additional laws and rules like in NY and CA there should be a pretty good coverage.

The single biggest problem in trying to reach a reasonable conclusion is the plethora of folks who have absolutely no idea what the hell they are talking about when comes to the laws, what is being done or not done...as well as the kinds of weapons covered or not covered.

Most who babble about gun control know what they hear on the television set from the just as uninformed media. And of course they all watch the gun laden movies to round out their knowledge.

The above commentary of how uninformed too many are also applies to all the gun ignorant anti gunners in Washington!

Typical political farse!

[Guest]

At least, the CCW permit should have the mandatory requirement of marksmanship.

In Florida, any veteran can get the CCW permit with a copy of his DD214, fingerprints, and a fee of around $115. No test of marksmanship at all! It makes no difference if the veteran was an Army cook 70 years ago and has not touched a gun since then.

[Guest]

At least, the CCW permit should have the mandatory requirement of marksmanship.

In Florida, any veteran can get the CCW permit with a copy of his DD214, fingerprints, and a fee of around $115. No test of marksmanship at all! It makes no difference if the veteran was an Army cook 70 years ago and has not touched a gun since then.

Always excuses. How many problems do you read about with veterans not hitting their target? That has nothing to do with the shooting problem. Anyone knows that once you have had weapons training, you remember how to handle them properly. At least, anyone that has every had a gun before. Anti-gun folks will always try to come up with something to argue with. Example: Automatic weapons. There already is a ban on automatic weapons, but every know-nothing, anti-gun person as well as news reporters with no experience, thinks that any non revolver or shotgun is automatic. They do not understand that only fully automatic weapons are considered "assault weapons."

We have a second amendment. There is no stipulation in the amendment for proficiency. Everyone has different levels of ability, and none of it every has anything to do with the ISSUE. The fact is, there are more guns in America than ever before, and crime has gone down. Another fact is that over fifty percent of gun related deaths are due to suicide. Not a crime.

Anti-gun folks need to get on with their lives. You are not going to get rid of our guns, so you might as well lower your stress level and get a new agenda going for you.

Liberals are on a roll and they fully intend to destroy America.
They have achieved legalizing abortion
They are selling baby body parts
They have legalized deviant sexual behavior, even marriage
They have all but banned public display of Christianity.
They have almost legalized the sale of Marijuana
They have almost run the wealthy out of our country by unfair taxation
They have banned non-PC conversation, even punishing private conversation
They teach our children acceptance of deviant behavior and immorality in public schools
They have ostracized Christians and welcomed Muslims
And they have all but bankrupted our country to subsidize the lazy. Forcing everyone to purchase a product or service by force of penalty (Obamacare).

Our neighbor is NOT our responsibility. Our family is our responsibly and Christian charity is encouraged, not forced. Donating, volunteering, assisting, and caring for is an option of charity, not an obligation. Liberals have been using our good faith against us when they feel no responsibility of their own. They feel that sharing is only for those that have more than them. They are very generous with others' property. No sacrifice of their own.

Guns are a right. If you manage to ban guns, all you will be doing is making more criminals, because NO real American will lay down his guns on the whim of a pathetic pacifist coward. And that is exactly what Obama is.

[Guest]

As long as we have our Congress taking all their contributions from the NRA, we will not have reasonable gun control.

Reasonable gun control for the likes of you is banning gun ownership. Just because you don't wish to protect your family, you shouldn't force your pacifist nature on others that wish to protect their own. Not all of us are meek and wish to be walked upon. We have plenty of gun control in this country. But, ignorance runs rampant in those outspoken that have no clue, just mouth.

[Guest]

As long as we have our Congress taking all their contributions from the NRA, we will not have reasonable gun control.
I agree with you. I own a number of handguns and a so-called assault rifle and would have no problem registering all of them. I also think anyone carrying a concealed weapon should be registered along with each weapon they carry. A few liberal stop and frisk should be law of the land. It has been 15 years since I've been an NRA member. No reasonable dialog is possible as they do own congress. IMO

[Guest]

I agree with you. I own a number of handguns and a so-called assault rifle and would have no problem registering all of them. I also think anyone carrying a concealed weapon should be registered along with each weapon they carry. A few liberal stop and frisk should be law of the land. It has been 15 years since I've been an NRA member. No reasonable dialog is possible as they do own congress. IMO

Hate to break it to you, but ALL CCW permits are "registered." The only fear I have regarding registering ALL weapons is that the honest person will comply and the criminal won't. As bad as this gov is, I am reluctant to allow them any more power or control over me. Having a list of all gun ownership, makes it real easy for them to confiscate your gun if they declare an emergency. I have been a law abiding citizen all my life, but if they started a mandatory registration, my unregistered weapons would remain unregistered. I have no problems with a stop and frisk policy as long as it is not a "liberal" stop and frisk, meaning with total disregard for the constitutional rights of the citizen. A suspicious looking character is one good reason, but just to stop someone on a "liberal" power trip is another. There has to be some governor on this power. I don't believe the NRA owns congress any more than than I believe George Soros or the Koch brothers own congress. They have lots of power, but not total power. If not for the NRA, I bet we would be another Australia in regards to gun laws and confiscation.

Statistics seem to indicate that since more guns are owned in the U.S. crime has been reduced. In cities with the harshest gun control laws, violent crime is the highest.

Since over half the gun related deaths in America are suicides, reducing or limiting gun ownership will not reduce that fifty percent of deaths. Those persons wishing to end their own lives will still achieve it, only by a different method.

Strict penalties and punishment is the only deterrent to lower deaths by criminal violence. If the courts refuse to punish the guilty, then what is stopping them from committing crime?

[Guest]

I agree with you. I own a number of handguns and a so-called assault rifle and would have no problem registering all of them. I also think anyone carrying a concealed weapon should be registered along with each weapon they carry. A few liberal stop and frisk should be law of the land. It has been 15 years since I've been an NRA member. No reasonable dialog is possible as they do own congress. IMO

A semi-automatic rifle is NOT an assault rifle.

[Guest]

At least, the CCW permit should have the mandatory requirement of marksmanship.

In Florida, any veteran can get the CCW permit with a copy of his DD214, fingerprints, and a fee of around $115. No test of marksmanship at all! It makes no difference if the veteran was an Army cook 70 years ago and has not touched a gun since then.

Dear Guest: At least that is more than what is required in many states for the right to vote. Voting is our life blood and if fraud is not abated can do more harm in the long run than unchecked gun ownership.

By the way Marco Rubio made claim that gun control as proposed by progressives and more restrictive in states such as California would not have stopped any of the mass shootings in the past. The Washington Post did a fact checked and agreed that Rubio was right.

Too many progressive have an obsession concerning gun control. Their hearts are in the right spot but not their logic.

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

Always excuses. How many problems do you read about with veterans not hitting their target? That has nothing to do with the shooting problem. Anyone knows that once you have had weapons training, you remember how to handle them properly. At least, anyone that has every had a gun before. Anti-gun folks will always try to come up with something to argue with. Example: Automatic weapons. There already is a ban on automatic weapons, but every know-nothing, anti-gun person as well as news reporters with no experience, thinks that any non revolver or shotgun is automatic. They do not understand that only fully automatic weapons are considered "assault weapons."

We have a second amendment. There is no stipulation in the amendment for proficiency. Everyone has different levels of ability, and none of it every has anything to do with the ISSUE. The fact is, there are more guns in America than ever before, and crime has gone down. Another fact is that over fifty percent of gun related deaths are due to suicide. Not a crime.

Anti-gun folks need to get on with their lives. You are not going to get rid of our guns, so you might as well lower your stress level and get a new agenda going for you.

Liberals are on a roll and they fully intend to destroy America.
They have achieved legalizing abortion
They are selling baby body parts
They have legalized deviant sexual behavior, even marriage
They have all but banned public display of Christianity.
They have almost legalized the sale of Marijuana
They have almost run the wealthy out of our country by unfair taxation
They have banned non-PC conversation, even punishing private conversation
They teach our children acceptance of deviant behavior and immorality in public schools
They have ostracized Christians and welcomed Muslims
And they have all but bankrupted our country to subsidize the lazy. Forcing everyone to purchase a product or service by force of penalty (Obamacare).

Our neighbor is NOT our responsibility. Our family is our responsibly and Christian charity is encouraged, not forced. Donating, volunteering, assisting, and caring for is an option of charity, not an obligation. Liberals have been using our good faith against us when they feel no responsibility of their own. They feel that sharing is only for those that have more than them. They are very generous with others' property. No sacrifice of their own.

Guns are a right. If you manage to ban guns, all you will be doing is making more criminals, because NO real American will lay down his guns on the whim of a pathetic pacifist coward. And that is exactly what Obama is.

Dear Guest:

I could not agree with you more. Progressive's policies implemented 50 years ago have had an accumulative effect and have greatly harmed this nation . We are especially witnessing these effects now because we have the weakest leadership this country has experienced in modern times.

Frankly I do not find confidence in one candidate seeking the presidency on either side leading us out of this mess. Not one

We are in this mess because this nation has forgotten the basics

A hint to all of this is the expression the "new normal" . You know what the "new normal"really is ? A euphemism for abnormal.

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

Dear Guest:

I could not agree with you more. Progressive's policies implemented 50 years ago have had an accumulative effect and have greatly harmed this nation . We are especially witnessing these effects now because we have the weakest leadership this country has experienced in modern times.

Frankly I do not find confidence in one candidate seeking the presidency on either side leading us out of this mess. Not one

We are in this mess because this nation has forgotten the basics

A hint to all of this is the expression the "new normal" . You know what the "new normal"really is ? A euphemism for abnormal.


Personal Best Regards:


Next thing you know they will give voting rights to blacks and women.

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Hate to break it to you, but ALL CCW permits are "registered." The only fear I have regarding registering ALL weapons is that the honest person will comply and the criminal won't. As bad as this gov is, I am reluctant to allow them any more power or control over me. Having a list of all gun ownership, makes it real easy for them to confiscate your gun if they declare an emergency. I have been a law abiding citizen all my life, but if they started a mandatory registration, my unregistered weapons would remain unregistered. I have no problems with a stop and frisk policy as long as it is not a "liberal" stop and frisk, meaning with total disregard for the constitutional rights of the citizen. A suspicious looking character is one good reason, but just to stop someone on a "liberal" power trip is another. There has to be some governor on this power. I don't believe the NRA owns congress any more than than I believe George Soros or the Koch brothers own congress. They have lots of power, but not total power. If not for the NRA, I bet we would be another Australia in regards to gun laws and confiscation.

Statistics seem to indicate that since more guns are owned in the U.S. crime has been reduced. In cities with the harshest gun control laws, violent crime is the highest.

Since over half the gun related deaths in America are suicides, reducing or limiting gun ownership will not reduce that fifty percent of deaths. Those persons wishing to end their own lives will still achieve it, only by a different method.

Strict penalties and punishment is the only deterrent to lower deaths by criminal violence. If the courts refuse to punish the guilty, then what is stopping them from committing crime?

100% on TARGET!!!!

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A semi-automatic rifle is NOT an assault rifle.

Most who express a need for more gun control, or who try to converse about one particular weapon or not have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. They merely parrot what they hear by the media and others like the who do not know any more either.

Rifle, pistol, shotgun, in either single action, double action, semi automatic, single or double stack clips and on and on. And they further demonstrate their lack of knowledge when calling any black colored modern day rifle (miltary looking) and assault rifle.

No value added and nothing but furthering the misunderstanding and confusing the uninformed.

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Next thing you know they will give voting rights to blacks and women.

Juvenile troll. You got the attention you crave, so now you can go away.

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Hate to break it to you, but ALL CCW permits are "registered." The only fear I have regarding registering ALL weapons is that the honest person will comply and the criminal won't. As bad as this gov is, I am reluctant to allow them any more power or control over me. Having a list of all gun ownership, makes it real easy for them to confiscate your gun if they declare an emergency. I have been a law abiding citizen all my life, but if they started a mandatory registration, my unregistered weapons would remain unregistered. I have no problems with a stop and frisk policy as long as it is not a "liberal" stop and frisk, meaning with total disregard for the constitutional rights of the citizen. A suspicious looking character is one good reason, but just to stop someone on a "liberal" power trip is another. There has to be some governor on this power. I don't believe the NRA owns congress any more than than I believe George Soros or the Koch brothers own congress. They have lots of power, but not total power. If not for the NRA, I bet we would be another Australia in regards to gun laws and confiscation.

Statistics seem to indicate that since more guns are owned in the U.S. crime has been reduced. In cities with the harshest gun control laws, violent crime is the highest.

Since over half the gun related deaths in America are suicides, reducing or limiting gun ownership will not reduce that fifty percent of deaths. Those persons wishing to end their own lives will still achieve it, only by a different method.

Strict penalties and punishment is the only deterrent to lower deaths by criminal violence. If the courts refuse to punish the guilty, then what is stopping them from committing crime?
Well it appears you and I agree on nothing when it comes to guns. The conspiracy government seizure theory you bring up is not logical but one that Wayne LaPierre has trained his members to parrot. There is nothing that would help Chicago gun violence more then a stop and frisk program. I guess if I believe in that I'm not as patriotic an American as you and Sean Hannity. I can live with that.

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Well it appears you and I agree on nothing when it comes to guns. The conspiracy government seizure theory you bring up is not logical but one that Wayne LaPierre has trained his members to parrot. There is nothing that would help Chicago gun violence more then a stop and frisk program. I guess if I believe in that I'm not as patriotic an American as you and Sean Hannity. I can live with that.

Read my comment over again. I believe you misinterpreted it. I have no conspiracy theory in my comment. But, I did indicate that it would be easier for the gov to seize our guns. That is not a conspiracy theory, but I know how one side is ALWAYS misstating comments to pervert it to say something other than intended. The way this president uses EO's so blatantly, I would not totally discard the idea of someone doing it though. Australia confiscated guns, and tried to push the voluntary idea. I never said that stop and frisk was a bad idea. I said that it should be used with prudence, within reason. NYC had it and it worked very well. Why you would throw in a nasty sentence at the end, I have no idea other than I have noticed that a lot on here coming from the left. Not that I have anything against Sean Hannity, but I don't watch his show. Why you think that using his name is a bad thing, is something only you would understand. I guess you watch his show, so you may know more about him. I am have been told that he is a conservative commentator with a talk show. But, I am sure you would know more about that than me. It must be a pretty good program, if the left is so threatened by it. Since you endorse it so willingly, I will probably have to check it out one evening. I have no idea as to your patriotic status, but now that you mention it so vehemently, it must be a sore spot for you. I could only guess that you regret not serving your country, or some related reason. None of my business of course. We have an all voluntary military service, which is too bad in my opinion.

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"The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

- Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

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"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen"
—Samuel Adams

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The President has said it is insane to allow people who are on the "No Fly List" to legally purchase guns. The Republicans in Congress will not even discuss the issue. Why not? Is it just because the Democrat President has a very good idea and the Republicans will not go along with ANY idea from this President? Yep, that is the reason.

I also heard a snippet from one of Ted Cruz's speeches in Iowa. He was literally ranting and said it is a "God given right" for Americans to own guns. Where in the Bible does it mention that Americans can own guns?

It is a stupid idea made by an ignorant and stupid person of position. Please give me one name of a mass murderer or terrorist that has killed in the U.S. that was on the "no-fly" list. If a Democrat suggestion is stupid, why would you expect the Republicans to embrace it? To answer your question, it is not that it came from Obama and he is a Democrat/socialist. It's because that suggestion was just plain stupid. Got it?