View Full Version : I do feel much of what Donald Trump says is very Hateful.
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12-08-2015, 09:05 AM
https://www.facebook.com/BuzzFeedBooks/posts/793315090814153
Harry Potter author slams Donald Trump.
Guest
12-08-2015, 09:23 AM
oh, and of course we should select our next president on the opinions of a fiction writer who lives in a magical la la land.
Guest
12-08-2015, 09:43 AM
Define hateful.
Do you consider being truthful as being hateful?
Is stating fact being hateful?
Liberals seem to think that anything that's not PC or complimentary is "hateful."
By liberal definitions of hateful, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Billary and Debbie Whatshername would be construed as hateful.
Guest
12-08-2015, 09:44 AM
oh, and of course we should select our next president on the opinions of a fiction writer who lives in a magical la la land.
And where does Donald Trump live but in his own la-la land? None of this man's proposals are even remotely practical. Unless he becomes another Hitler like leader who has total power over this country. Given this man's ego that might work with him. He is in full fascist mode at the current time. I am just wondering when he is going to start spuming like Hitler. He certainly is using a lot of the same kind of tactics as those found in Germany in 1933.
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12-08-2015, 09:56 AM
And where does Donald Trump live but in his own la-la land? None of this man's proposals are even remotely practical. Unless he becomes another Hitler like leader who has total power over this country. Given this man's ego that might work with him. He is in full fascist mode at the current time. I am just wondering when he is going to start spuming like Hitler. He certainly is using a lot of the same kind of tactics as those found in Germany in 1933.
I find your comment very amusing, considering the tyrant currently residing in the White House. Some folks find Trumps ideas much more practical than Obama's stupid ideas of banning gun purchases from anyone on the "no-fly" list. Now, that's going to stop a lot of killings, for sure...ha,ha. What a lame brain idea. Then, you have liberals that don't know an assault weapon from a shotgun. They don't know automatic from semi-automatic, and still don't realize that we already have back ground checks on gun purchases. But, back to Trump being "fascist." Define fascist according to you. Instead of disparaging him with name calling, tell us what you don't agree with. Kind of hard to debate an issue, if you don't know what the issue is, other than you don't like him.
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12-08-2015, 10:00 AM
And where does Donald Trump live but in his own la-la land? None of this man's proposals are even remotely practical. Unless he becomes another Hitler like leader who has total power over this country. Given this man's ego that might work with him. He is in full fascist mode at the current time. I am just wondering when he is going to start spuming like Hitler. He certainly is using a lot of the same kind of tactics as those found in Germany in 1933.
Now! Now! You know Trump can't grow a mustache. He couldn't keep his arm still long enough to give a stiff arm salute.
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12-08-2015, 10:25 AM
A t chart for comparison:
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12-08-2015, 10:29 AM
A t chart for comparison:
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Chi, don't knock yourself out with conversation.
Guest
12-08-2015, 10:31 AM
Trump has said he would kill the famiies of terrorists. Why not let Trump have the 6 month old baby of the San Bernadino terrorists and have him behead the baby on video for ISIS viewers to think about before doing harm to the US?
There is also an Islamic center on Hwy 27 by Clermont. Why not have Trump supporters from The Villages stage a protest on their grounds and tell them to leave the country?
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12-08-2015, 10:32 AM
Chi, don't knock yourself out with conversation.
Sometimes a visual aid needs to be interspersed. Don't agree with the fascist label though.
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12-08-2015, 10:40 AM
Sometimes a visual aid needs to be interspersed. Don't agree with the fascist label though.
I agree. He may speak a bit harshly, but sometimes one must speak strong in order to get their attention. Rather threaten them into submission than have to lose American lives to win. But, I would also rather fight them in their land rather than ours.
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12-08-2015, 11:50 AM
Trump Only Loves Rich Muslims Who Give Him Money - The Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/07/donald-trump-loves-muslims-if-they-re-rich.html)
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12-08-2015, 12:14 PM
for those whose advantage is to take what is said literally because it facilitates their cause/premise/belief/fairy tale they do so.
For those that are able to grasp that something needs to be done and maybe among the choices the one he posed is not acceptable but he does indeed get one's attention. And he is more on the frequency of how most Americans feel.
The other multiplier in the equation is for the past 7 years there has been so much PC, so little action, to solve or even address the issues, that almost anybody who speaks the truth and states how it really is.....by comparison seems quite drastic.
It really gets down to the basics of choosing a leader or a loser. The loser of the past 7 years has demonstrated well what one can expect......not much of anything.
An outsider or another blabber mouthed crony that would continue business as usual....and the leader of the pack has gone on record to support Obama's tenure!
Guest
12-08-2015, 12:17 PM
Now! Now! You know Trump can't grow a mustache. He couldn't keep his arm still long enough to give a stiff arm salute.
That's true.
Guest
12-08-2015, 01:12 PM
Trump has said he would kill the famiies of terrorists. Why not let Trump have the 6 month old baby of the San Bernadino terrorists and have him behead the baby on video for ISIS viewers to think about before doing harm to the US?
There is also an Islamic center on Hwy 27 by Clermont. Why not have Trump supporters from The Villages stage a protest on their grounds and tell them to leave the country?
This makes you stop and think.
Guest
12-08-2015, 02:33 PM
I have to think Trump only resonates with the right wing fringe. If I thought otherwise, I'd lose faith in America and its citizens.
Guest
12-08-2015, 02:44 PM
One mantra about Trump is this: We are usually in agreement with most of what he says but wish someone else was saying it. :wave:
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12-08-2015, 03:24 PM
I have to think Trump only resonates with the right wing fringe. If I thought otherwise, I'd lose faith in America and its citizens.
I lost faith in Americans when Obama was elected for the second term. I couldn't believe that there were that many ignorant people in America. But, as we know, as faith in the Creator ebbs so goes the country.
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12-08-2015, 09:21 PM
I lost faith in Americans when Obama was elected for the second term. I couldn't believe that there were that many ignorant people in America. But, as we know, as faith in the Creator ebbs so goes the country.
Enjoy your new country with your Creator. I'll stay here with the rest of Americans, ignorant or smart.
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12-09-2015, 05:26 AM
Enjoy your new country with your Creator. I'll stay here with the rest of Americans, ignorant or smart.
Don't worry, no one is going to accuse you of being smart.
Guest
12-09-2015, 05:52 AM
After the Iran hostage crisis, President Carter froze Muslim immigration and ordered all Muslim students to report to immigration. 15,000 were ejected from the U.S. The courts upheld this decision and stated that the president had the authority handle the situation in this manner.
If Trump is considered "hateful" by suggesting the same thing, then Carter was a "hateful" person also. Too bad Bush didn't do this after 9/11. Maybe we wouldn't be having this conversation now.
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12-09-2015, 05:58 AM
After the Iran hostage crisis, President Carter froze Muslim immigration and ordered all Muslim students to report to immigration. 15,000 were ejected from the U.S. The courts upheld this decision and stated that the president had the authority handle the situation in this manner.
If Trump is considered "hateful" by suggesting the same thing, then Carter was a "hateful" person also. Too bad Bush didn't do this after 9/11. Maybe we wouldn't be having this conversation now.
Let me make just one correction on what I wrote above. Carter froze all IRANIAN Muslim immigration. FDR also did the same with Japan and Germany.
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12-09-2015, 08:08 AM
After the Iran hostage crisis, President Carter froze Muslim immigration and ordered all Muslim students to report to immigration. 15,000 were ejected from the U.S. The courts upheld this decision and stated that the president had the authority handle the situation in this manner.
If Trump is considered "hateful" by suggesting the same thing, then Carter was a "hateful" person also. Too bad Bush didn't do this after 9/11. Maybe we wouldn't be having this conversation now.
We have several influences of the current day thinking and actions or lack of actions.
We have become a permissive society that easily succumbs to ANY whim presented by a special interest group or a specific political group, religious movement, et al. These groups usually have an agenda that is inconsistent with the majority and bent on allowances that defy the common sense or wants of the majority.
In addition we have a president and WH full of advisors that are racially, islamic sympathetic.
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12-09-2015, 08:11 AM
Let me make just one correction on what I wrote above. Carter froze all IRANIAN Muslim immigration. FDR also did the same with Japan and Germany.
https://books.google.com/books?id=AP7QCteb0o0C&pg=PA1002&lpg=PA1002&dq=carter+iranian+immigration&source=bl&ots=WJ9p0wmtKT&sig=hAvLqhWqJRsO60G27HrvGNoJlqE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwie3_b07M7JAhWKlh4KHUW8DTUQ6AEITzAK#v=on epage&q=carter%20iranian%20immigration&f=false
Hostage Crisis response!
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12-09-2015, 08:38 AM
After the Iran hostage crisis, President Carter froze Muslim immigration and ordered all Muslim students to report to immigration. 15,000 were ejected from the U.S. The courts upheld this decision and stated that the president had the authority handle the situation in this manner.
If Trump is considered "hateful" by suggesting the same thing, then Carter was a "hateful" person also. Too bad Bush didn't do this after 9/11. Maybe we wouldn't be having this conversation now.
Carter didn't freeze immigration, he froze Iran government assets to place pressure on Iran. He did place tighter restrictions on visas for Iranians but Iranians were still able to come in. He did order the investigation of visa status of Iranian students, and expelled those whose visas were out of legal status. Those with legal visa status stayed in the U.S. I would hardly call that hateful. Trump is calling for a complete ban on Muslims coming into the United States. He doesn't get that our enemy is radical islam, not Muslims in general. His comments just show his complete ignorance of world affairs.
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12-09-2015, 08:49 AM
Carter didn't freeze immigration, he froze Iran government assets to place pressure on Iran. He did place tighter restrictions on visas for Iranians but Iranians were still able to come in. He did order the investigation of visa status of Iranian students, and expelled those whose visas were out of legal status. Those with legal visa status stayed in the U.S. I would hardly call that hateful. Trump is calling for a complete ban on Muslims coming into the United States. He doesn't get that our enemy is radical islam, not Muslims in general. His comments just show his complete ignorance of world affairs.
listen to what she says about muslims in general;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79prQ3BN8RQ
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12-09-2015, 11:03 AM
Carter didn't freeze immigration, he froze Iran government assets to place pressure on Iran. He did place tighter restrictions on visas for Iranians but Iranians were still able to come in. He did order the investigation of visa status of Iranian students, and expelled those whose visas were out of legal status. Those with legal visa status stayed in the U.S. I would hardly call that hateful. Trump is calling for a complete ban on Muslims coming into the United States. He doesn't get that our enemy is radical islam, not Muslims in general. His comments just show his complete ignorance of world affairs.
Sure, whatever you say. Trump said he wanted a temporary ban. But, leave it up to liberals to blow it out of proportion. Liberals are the last to volunteer to serve or fight for our country and the first in line to complain about how it is done.
I think they should ban ALL incoming visas from the middle east and tell their countries that we will resume diplomatic services with them once they clean up their act. Tell them that we will not allow them access to our country unless they prove that there will be no more radical trying to "kill the infidels." Too bad there are some innocents that get hurt. That's their fault for not doing anything about it. Collateral damage. Our Freedom is Free for our citizens, not foreign invaders. They can do the same thing to their countries, if they want freedom. We don't want cowards that run away from their own countries to come over here and try to change our lifestyle.
IF that is not good enough, then bomb their oil wells so they can't finance jihad against us. Let them be desert wandering nomads again. Without oil, they have nothing.
Better to punish them in their land than to allow them to come here under the endorsement of liberals, so they can ruin our lives.
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12-10-2015, 09:10 AM
I see Trump is not ruling out a third party run! How exciting, that would really guarantee a Democratic President. Keeping my fingers crossed…...
Guest
12-10-2015, 09:56 AM
I see Trump is not ruling out a third party run! How exciting, that would really guarantee a Democratic President. Keeping my fingers crossed…...
:2excited:...do you get a thrill down your leg also?
Guest
12-10-2015, 10:37 AM
When I was young, it was communists instead of Muslims.
It was hippies instead of extremists.
Most telling was that back in the good ole days it was old white men spewing the hatred.
Now of course, it's still old white men.
Guest
12-10-2015, 11:24 AM
When I was young, it was communists instead of Muslims.
It was hippies instead of extremists.
Most telling was that back in the good ole days it was old white men spewing the hatred.
Now of course, it's still old white men.
Not to disparage you, but that is a stupid comment.
Not very many "white men" do gangsta rap.
Not very many "white men" doing the "black lives matter" protests and chant "death to cops."
And yes, we DID fight communism. NO thanks to the liberals that benefit from our sacrifice.
And I am still waiting for an example of "spewing hatred" because from I can see so far, all I hear from liberals is poison, and no examples of "white men hatred." Just because we don't agree with you does not mean "hatred." Perhaps it's that liberal education that was remiss in explaining the meanings of some words that you use so loosely. Because you sure don't understand the meaning of "hatred" and that is a fact.
But, go ahead and parrot your ignorant chants from your ignorant leaders. The real ones that are spreading hatred and divisiveness. And yes, I am referring to Obama, Reid and Pelosi as well as Debbie Whatshername. All true authors of Pravda.
Guest
12-10-2015, 11:31 AM
Not to disparage you, but that is a stupid comment.
Not very many "white men" do gangsta rap.
Not very many "white men" doing the "black lives matter" protests and chant "death to cops."
And yes, we DID fight communism. NO thanks to the liberals that benefit from our sacrifice.
And I am still waiting for an example of "spewing hatred" because from I can see so far, all I hear from liberals is poison, and no examples of "white men hatred." Just because we don't agree with you does not mean "hatred." Perhaps it's that liberal education that was remiss in explaining the meanings of some words that you use so loosely. Because you sure don't understand the meaning of "hatred" and that is a fact.
But, go ahead and parrot your ignorant chants from your ignorant leaders. The real ones that are spreading hatred and divisiveness. And yes, I am referring to Obama, Reid and Pelosi as well as Debbie Whatshername. All true authors of Pravda.
Not to disparage you but felt a little hatred spewing in your last paragraph.
Guest
12-10-2015, 12:15 PM
Pravda is an excellent vodka and available at the Martini Bar on Celebrity ships!
Guest
12-10-2015, 01:33 PM
Not to disparage you but felt a little hatred spewing in your last paragraph.
Naw, I did it in an affectionate manner. You just misread it. :jester:
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