If you had to vote today = it would be: (POLL)

[Guest]

If the vote was held today, I would vote for (choose 1 only, and only 10 choices avail - so if they are not listed go to your #2):

[Guest]

Either Bernie or Hillory.

[Guest]

Rand Paul or Bernie. Only honest ones I've seen to date

[Guest]

If the vote was held today, I would vote for (choose 1 only, and only 10 choices avail - so if they are not listed go to your #2):

Dear Guest:

I do not find a list of 10 to choose from?
Are we voting for a nomination or in the general election?

In either case my vote for both the nomination and general election would be a write-in vote for Mitt Romney.

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

Either Bernie or Hillory.

Dear Guest: You do know both of these candidates would bankrupt this nation and one would result in people expressing one another as comrade?


Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

Rand Paul or Bernie. Only honest ones I've seen to date

Dear Guest: You do know both of these candidates are looney tunes?

Personal Best Regards

[Guest]

Dear Guest:

I do not find a list of 10 to choose from?
Are we voting for a nomination or in the general election?

In either case my vote for both the nomination and general election would be a write-in vote for Mitt Romney.

Personal Best Regards:

If I thought that it would get it done, then I would vote for Romney also. But, I have to be realistic, so I will have to vote for the Republican that has the best chance of winning against the liberal, anti-American trash.

There is no list on here, making it impossible to choose.

But, my choice would be ANYONE other than Sanders or Billary.

[Guest]

It's Trump for me

[Guest]

Dear Guest: You do know both of these candidates would bankrupt this nation and one would result in people expressing one another as comrade?


Personal Best Regards:

...and your foolish write in vote of Romney would be a waste of your vote. You only have one vote - make it count - vote for Hillary Clinton!

[Guest]

Dear Guest: You do know both of these candidates are looney tunes?

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I think you are confusing honesty with supporting your beliefs. Some might think those are looney tunes. IMO

[Guest]

Dear Guest: You do know both of these candidates would bankrupt this nation and one would result in people expressing one another as comrade?


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And you know this, how? Has either said this is their goal?

Now, take a look at Cruz. Wait, Ted Cruz wants to nuke ISIS? - Salon.com (http://www.salon.com/2015/12/11/wait_ted_cruz_wants_to_nuke_isis/)
How is he not in the "not be taken seriously category"? Now, only half the Senate hates the president. If we elect this guy, everyone in the Senate will hate the president. Now, this is progress.

I am for Kasich. If he doesn't become the Republican nominee, Donald Duck would be a good choice. Just think of the power Kasich had. He was in a two person in Ohio working for Lehman Bros. In this position, he was able to promote himself to the board of Lehman Bros., and help to bring down the economy. We know everything Trump says is the truth. This had to be the case. Just think how much Kasich could do if he used this power for the good of the country.

All joking aside, we need a president that will work with the other party to get things done. He is that person. The Republicans will not work with Hillary. That is a given. They would probably start the impeachment process right out of the gate.

[Guest]

...and your foolish write in vote of Romney would be a waste of your vote. You only have one vote - make it count - vote for Hillary Clinton!

Yep, she will be the best president ever to have served from behind bars in prison.

[Guest]

Democrats are dishonest and unethical. Anyone that would vote for Clinton, is endorsing criminal behavior. The lack of morality in the Democrat party is not a surprise, considering they voted for slick Willy for a second term, AFTER they knew him.

[Guest]

In 2012 there were the whimsy candidates that had their run. Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich, Santorum. But there was always Mitt Romney in the wings that could be counted on to be a strong candidate and winner. Who is in the wings now?

[Guest]

I thought this was a Poll with a ballot list to pick one from, and tallying to show actual numbers, NOT just more junior high taunting and smearing with no substance.

Further proof this political forum is a waste.

[Guest]

And you know this, how? Has either said this is their goal?

Now, take a look at Cruz. Wait, Ted Cruz wants to nuke ISIS? - Salon.com (http://www.salon.com/2015/12/11/wait_ted_cruz_wants_to_nuke_isis/)
How is he not in the "not be taken seriously category"? Now, only half the Senate hates the president. If we elect this guy, everyone in the Senate will hate the president. Now, this is progress.

I am for Kasich. If he doesn't become the Republican nominee, Donald Duck would be a good choice. Just think of the power Kasich had. He was in a two person in Ohio working for Lehman Bros. In this position, he was able to promote himself to the board of Lehman Bros., and help to bring down the economy. We know everything Trump says is the truth. This had to be the case. Just think how much Kasich could do if he used this power for the good of the country.

All joking aside, we need a president that will work with the other party to get things done. He is that person. The Republicans will not work with Hillary. That is a given. They would probably start the impeachment process right out of the gate.

Dear Guest: apparently you have not paid attention to either Bernie's or Hillary's economic agenda???? Bernie's projected costs for all that free stuff is $19 trillion.

Hillary is an Obama do over

you do know that Kasich is the guy who opened medicaid in Ohio for ever able bodied working age adult with no dependent children. Have you checked the waiting lists for services in Ohio as bad as Britain and Canada
Kasich is a RHINO .

Trump stirs the passion in people but i trust him as much as I do Bernie and Hillary.

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

...and your foolish write in vote of Romney would be a waste of your vote. You only have one vote - make it count - vote for Hillary Clinton!

Tom Ridge ex governor ex head of Department of Homeland when asked if trump were the nominee would he vote for him. He said no. then Neil Cavuto asked if it would be Hillary. he said no. He finally confessed given those limited choices he would not vote.

My rationale is to insert in any publication and to the RNC, etc that Mitt Romney needs to enter the debate. Because he is far better than the best offered this time around. I will not lose my right to vote and I would rather vote with a write in than not vote at all

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

I think you are confusing honesty with supporting your beliefs. Some might think those are looney tunes. IMO

Dear Guest: No confusion whatsoever. I am certain Bernie and Hillary are looney tunes and the only thing keeping them being unhinged are their financial backers. Worse yet they have to be on their best behavior until after election then...well look at what the last 7 years wrought

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so as to the OP's polling request add me in for Mitt Romney because I find no list to choose from.

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

In 2012 there were the whimsy candidates that had their run. Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich, Santorum. But there was always Mitt Romney in the wings that could be counted on to be a strong candidate and winner. Who is in the wings now?

Bring back Sarah Palin. She can always bring humour to a situation since she is a half-term clown governor.

I am going to enjoy casting my vote for Hillary Clinton. Some day I might even get my US citizenship but until then will rely on my driver license.

[Guest]

Bring back Sarah Palin. She can always bring humour to a situation since she is a half-term clown governor.

I am going to enjoy casting my vote for Hillary Clinton. Some day I might even get my US citizenship but until then will rely on my driver license.

Oh? You are old enough to drive? That's surprising.

[Guest]

97% of you are nuts.

[Guest]

I thought this was a Poll with a ballot list to pick one from, and tallying to show actual numbers, NOT just more junior high taunting and smearing with no substance.

Further proof this political forum is a waste.


You are entitled to your opinion. You have three choices here. You can provide your own list, since it appears none was provided. You can not participate, and not read the postings. Or, you can suck it up, like an adult and ignore the juveniles and contribute your opinion. After all, that's all this is, opinion. It's kind of refreshing not to have to worry about being thrown off of here because of PC decorum. Either way, have a great day.

[Guest]

97% of you are nuts.

I hope you are including me in that 97%,

[Guest]

I thought this was a Poll with a ballot list to pick one from, and tallying to show actual numbers, NOT just more junior high taunting and smearing with no substance.

Further proof this political forum is a waste.


I am the GUEST that opened this Thread - but the posting was not public for a couple days. An hour after opening I asked the Moderator, thru a question, why it wasn't opened and I could not open Threads - note on my profile or such. Then I had a notice not to respond to others by name - I NEVER DID - I was very civil etc on the general discussion. Some Moderator is extremely quick on the trigger (their LEFT trigger). Then a couple days ago, I see this Thread WITHOUT my list of the top 10 candidates. OH WELL, not worth the effort now.... sorry - would have been interesting......

[Guest]

Dear Guest: apparently you have not paid attention to either Bernie's or Hillary's economic agenda???? Bernie's projected costs for all that free stuff is $19 trillion.

Hillary is an Obama do over

you do know that Kasich is the guy who opened medicaid in Ohio for ever able bodied working age adult with no dependent children. Have you checked the waiting lists for services in Ohio as bad as Britain and Canada
Kasich is a RHINO .

Trump stirs the passion in people but i trust him as much as I do Bernie and Hillary.

Personal Best Regards:

I know that Bernie's plans are out of control, but Hillary? If she is a Obama do over, his spending hasn't been out of control in the past few years. The first few years, he was dealing with the great recession, and we are not going to rehash hat.

One of the reasons that I will vote for Kasich was him accepting Medicaid under the ACA. He put the people that needed health insurance ahead of pure politics. If a person that puts people ahead of politics a Rhino maybe we should have more rhinos.

Just because you are a healthy young person doesn't mean you make enough money to pay for health insurance, if the company you work for doesn't provide it. Since people without health insurance are using the emergency ward as their primary care physician, would you rather wait for a doctor at his office, or at an emergency ward due to the number of uninsured seeking medical help there.

Just curious, if a Republican In Name Only is a Rhino, where does the H come in. Just to correct spelling?

[Guest]

None of the above

[Guest]

Mrs Clinton

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I know that Bernie's plans are out of control, but Hillary? If she is a Obama do over, his spending hasn't been out of control in the past few years. The first few years, he was dealing with the great recession, and we are not going to rehash hat.

One of the reasons that I will vote for Kasich was him accepting Medicaid under the ACA. He put the people that needed health insurance ahead of pure politics. If a person that puts people ahead of politics a Rhino maybe we should have more rhinos.

Just because you are a healthy young person doesn't mean you make enough money to pay for health insurance, if the company you work for doesn't provide it. Since people without health insurance are using the emergency ward as their primary care physician, would you rather wait for a doctor at his office, or at an emergency ward due to the number of uninsured seeking medical help there.

Just curious, if a Republican In Name Only is a Rhino, where does the H come in. Just to correct spelling?

Dear Guest: You do know that Obama spending was more than the last four presidents combined? You do know OBAMACARE is about to go broke? you do know our medical system is breaking down and doctors are giving up their private practice to become employees of hospitals, etc? You do know that some doctors won't accept insurance and make their patients pay cash and then go file for insurance reimbursement on their own?
You do know that of a result of Kaisch medicaid expansions patients are on a waiting list as long as those in Great Britian and they had to request from the Red Cross to help alleviate their back log.

Finally as to RHINO (RINO) my apology as I use RHINO as a play on words, someting that you did not know and I should have explained. Well there is no better time than now. RHINO has two meanings for me Republicans In Name Only and RHINO taken from the propane mfg and meaning politicians full of hot air.

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

I am the GUEST that opened this Thread - but the posting was not public for a couple days. An hour after opening I asked the Moderator, thru a question, why it wasn't opened and I could not open Threads - note on my profile or such. Then I had a notice not to respond to others by name - I NEVER DID - I was very civil etc on the general discussion. Some Moderator is extremely quick on the trigger (their LEFT trigger). Then a couple days ago, I see this Thread WITHOUT my list of the top 10 candidates. OH WELL, not worth the effort now.... sorry - would have been interesting......

Dear Guest: I am not quite sure about the makings of your thread and the interaction between you and Admin. However I personally would like to see you post here again with the names of the candidates to right this thread and its intended purpose. Please reconsider.

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

I know that Bernie's plans are out of control, but Hillary? If she is a Obama do over, his spending hasn't been out of control in the past few years. The first few years, he was dealing with the great recession, and we are not going to rehash hat.

One of the reasons that I will vote for Kasich was him accepting Medicaid under the ACA. He put the people that needed health insurance ahead of pure politics. If a person that puts people ahead of politics a Rhino maybe we should have more rhinos.

Just because you are a healthy young person doesn't mean you make enough money to pay for health insurance, if the company you work for doesn't provide it. Since people without health insurance are using the emergency ward as their primary care physician, would you rather wait for a doctor at his office, or at an emergency ward due to the number of uninsured seeking medical help there.

Just curious, if a Republican In Name Only is a Rhino, where does the H come in. Just to correct spelling?

It's RINO. And Kasich won't last long enough for you to vote for him. But, I have a feeling that you are not qualified to vote in America anyway. Didn't you say in past posts that you are Canadian? You sound like it, using terms that we don't usually use here. Just wondering.
I also liked Kasich in the beginning. Have been following him for several years. But, lately he has sounded overwhelmed and desperate. He is old school political, but that isn't helping him right now, and I believe it is just a matter of time before he drops out.

[Guest]

Mrs Clinton

Because you believe in supporting the criminal minority and hate America.

[Guest]

where is the poll?

Results?

[Guest]

where is the poll?

Results?



Look to POST #24 - I had good intentions, top 10 list etc etc, but the Moderators messed it up by apparently deleting then restoring...partly.

[Guest]

Dear Guest: You do know that Obama spending was more than the last four presidents combined? You do know OBAMACARE is about to go broke? you do know our medical system is breaking down and doctors are giving up their private practice to become employees of hospitals, etc? You do know that some doctors won't accept insurance and make their patients pay cash and then go file for insurance reimbursement on their own?
You do know that of a result of Kaisch medicaid expansions patients are on a waiting list as long as those in Great Britian and they had to request from the Red Cross to help alleviate their back log.

Finally as to RHINO (RINO) my apology as I use RHINO as a play on words, someting that you did not know and I should have explained. Well there is no better time than now. RHINO has two meanings for me Republicans In Name Only and RHINO taken from the propane mfg and meaning politicians full of hot air.

Personal Best Regards:

I can't see how Obama has spent more than the last four president combined. The charts that I looked at shows spending under Obama being about 3.5 trillion a year. "W" average is about 2.5 trillion. That would mean 1 trillion more per year times 7 or seven trillion dollars. Reagan (8 years), Bush I (4 years), and Clinton (8 Years), and they only spent 7 trillion over 20 years? This chart shows the percentage increase under Obama as being 1.4% average.

spending by presidents chart - Bing images (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=spending+by+presidents+chart&view=detailv2&&id=44C3B6396949E090FB8B3273739EEA32D75F49AB&selectedIndex=2&ccid=7v%2biwPxI&simid=608052148851903628&thid=OIP.Meeffa2c0fc4894ad60c729ede4ab8cdcH0&ajaxhist=0)

There are two ways to look at the waiting period to see a doctor. People, who didn't have insurance, were using the emergency ward as their primary care physician. Now, that they have insurance, they are taking care of themselves by seeing a primary care physician on a regular basis. Rural hospitals were going out of business, because the uninsured were using their emergency wards for minor ailments, and not paying their bills. There were some areas of the country that you would have to drive over 100 miles to get to a hospital.

The parts of Obamacare that aren't working should be repealed, but not the entire law.

Thanks for your explanation of the word RHINO/RINO. I guess Kasich falls into the second spelling, and Trump in the first. Trump is a politician.

[Guest]

It's RINO. And Kasich won't last long enough for you to vote for him. But, I have a feeling that you are not qualified to vote in America anyway. Didn't you say in past posts that you are Canadian? You sound like it, using terms that we don't usually use here. Just wondering.
I also liked Kasich in the beginning. Have been following him for several years. But, lately he has sounded overwhelmed and desperate. He is old school political, but that isn't helping him right now, and I believe it is just a matter of time before he drops out.

I am from Mass. Maybe, that is why sound like a foreigner (lol). You are right I am not qualified to vote for him in the Fl. primary. I am an independent, and would have to change to a Republican before the primary. I have no problem doing this, if he is still in the hunt.

"overwhelmed and desperate" I think that he is really frustrated, and irritated. In the last debate, you could that by his body language. How can this new school of politics, don't compromise on anything, be any good? The new reality really sucks.

[Guest]

I can't see how Obama has spent more than the last four president combined. The charts that I looked at shows spending under Obama being about 3.5 trillion a year. "W" average is about 2.5 trillion. That would mean 1 trillion more per year times 7 or seven trillion dollars. Reagan (8 years), Bush I (4 years), and Clinton (8 Years), and they only spent 7 trillion over 20 years? This chart shows the percentage increase under Obama as being 1.4% average.

spending by presidents chart - Bing images (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=spending+by+presidents+chart&view=detailv2&&id=44C3B6396949E090FB8B3273739EEA32D75F49AB&selectedIndex=2&ccid=7v%2biwPxI&simid=608052148851903628&thid=OIP.Meeffa2c0fc4894ad60c729ede4ab8cdcH0&ajaxhist=0)

There are two ways to look at the waiting period to see a doctor. People, who didn't have insurance, were using the emergency ward as their primary care physician. Now, that they have insurance, they are taking care of themselves by seeing a primary care physician on a regular basis. Rural hospitals were going out of business, because the uninsured were using their emergency wards for minor ailments, and not paying their bills. There were some areas of the country that you would have to drive over 100 miles to get to a hospital.

The parts of Obamacare that aren't working should be repealed, but not the entire law.

Thanks for your explanation of the word RHINO/RINO. I guess Kasich falls into the second spelling, and Trump in the first. Trump is a politician.

The Obama administration will have doubled the national debt by the time he leaves office. He is only a trillion bucks away now and there is no way he is going to keep it below that by 9/30/2017.

After Obama took office in Jan 2009 and giving him the benefit of not counting anything before 9/30/2009 against him, the national debt was $11,909,829,003,511.75
The national debt on 12/10/2015 was $18,762,069,058,578.88 and counting. Very near $19 trillion today. Obama is responsible for the debt through 9/20/2017 so please explain to me how he is going to avoid that stigma of doubling the national debt?

[Guest]

The Obama administration will have doubled the national debt by the time he leaves office. He is only a trillion bucks away now and there is no way he is going to keep it below that by 9/30/2017.

After Obama took office in Jan 2009 and giving him the benefit of not counting anything before 9/30/2009 against him, the national debt was $11,909,829,003,511.75
The national debt on 12/10/2015 was $18,762,069,058,578.88 and counting. Very near $19 trillion today. Obama is responsible for the debt through 9/20/2017 so please explain to me how he is going to avoid that stigma of doubling the national debt?

Sorry, I forgot to give a reference for the information. Treasurydirect.gov.

[Guest]

I am from Mass. Maybe, that is why sound like a foreigner (lol). You are right I am not qualified to vote for him in the Fl. primary. I am an independent, and would have to change to a Republican before the primary. I have no problem doing this, if he is still in the hunt.

"overwhelmed and desperate" I think that he is really frustrated, and irritated. In the last debate, you could that by his body language. How can this new school of politics, don't compromise on anything, be any good? The new reality really sucks.

I totally agree. And sorry I mistook you for the poster (Guest) that said he was Canadian.

[Guest]

The Obama administration will have doubled the national debt by the time he leaves office. He is only a trillion bucks away now and there is no way he is going to keep it below that by 9/30/2017.

After Obama took office in Jan 2009 and giving him the benefit of not counting anything before 9/30/2009 against him, the national debt was $11,909,829,003,511.75
The national debt on 12/10/2015 was $18,762,069,058,578.88 and counting. Very near $19 trillion today. Obama is responsible for the debt through 9/20/2017 so please explain to me how he is going to avoid that stigma of doubling the national debt?
You are really missing some important points with your spending graph as the groundwork for much of that spending was committed to before Obama took office. You also forget the giant busting budget just passed by the republican controlled house and a big transportation bill they passed without paying for it. Easy to forget though when you're making a poor point is it not?

[Guest]

I think the intent of the OP is to find out who would get the vote today. As usual replies meander on to Obama who, contrary to some rumors, is not running. Evidently there are a lot of undecideds.

[Guest]

You are really missing some important points with your spending graph as the groundwork for much of that spending was committed to before Obama took office. You also forget the giant busting budget just passed by the republican controlled house and a big transportation bill they passed without paying for it. Easy to forget though when you're making a poor point is it not?

Hah, the old blame Bush theme again. If you check my figures, Bush's budget expired on 9/30/2009. I didn't count any of the money Obama spent prior to that time period. Sorry, but if you look at the stats, Bush had yearly average deficits in the billions, versus Obama having an average of over a trillion bucks. It was not the GOP that passed Obamacare, either. And that is going to be a nightmare of the future. Obama owns that mess and someone is going to have to clean it up. Obama blaming Bush for his inept record is not going to hold credibility much longer.

[Guest]

Ok, if the election was held today, which candidate would I select?

Ronald Reagan. I would dig him up and put him in the oval office and he would still be better at the job than Obama. Hey, everyone is still trying to resurrect him in all their speeches. And even when he was ill, he was a better president than any other.

[Guest]

The Obama administration will have doubled the national debt by the time he leaves office. He is only a trillion bucks away now and there is no way he is going to keep it below that by 9/30/2017.

After Obama took office in Jan 2009 and giving him the benefit of not counting anything before 9/30/2009 against him, the national debt was $11,909,829,003,511.75
The national debt on 12/10/2015 was $18,762,069,058,578.88 and counting. Very near $19 trillion today. Obama is responsible for the debt through 9/20/2017 so please explain to me how he is going to avoid that stigma of doubling the national debt?

The graph that I put up showed that Obama hasn't increased spending more than the past four presidents combined. Spending and increasing national debt are two different things. There was no mention of increasing national debt in the post that I responded too. Obama's spending practices are not out of control as shown by the graph.

Concerning doubling the national debt, we have spin that bottle many times here. Presidents do not have control of the economy. They have little affect on the economy, because they can't force businesses to do anything.

Obama has instituted several programs that have increased the national debt, but these programs are not the cause of doubling the national debt. The ACA, and extending unemployment to 99 weeks are two. I have never blamed "W" for the great recession, but the great recession, and production jobs leaving the country had a lot to do with the increase of national debt under Obama.

The blame game for the increase in national debt just doesn't fly. The Republican candidates for president income tax reform are based upon a large increase in GNP. If this increase in the GNP doesn't happen, the national debt will skyrocket, because tax collections will go down.

Concerning Obama's legacy, doubling the national debt won't be held against him to the extent Republicans think. The bigger problem against him will be the extremes both parties have taken during his presidency. Whether he is to be blamed for this only time will tell.

[Guest]

Threads like this one really demonstrate how divided we are as a people and how angry we really have become. But the pivotal and most dangerous issue of all is our deep distrust of government and that one issue alone can sink us.

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

The graph that I put up showed that Obama hasn't increased spending more than the past four presidents combined. Spending and increasing national debt are two different things. There was no mention of increasing national debt in the post that I responded too. Obama's spending practices are not out of control as shown by the graph.

Concerning doubling the national debt, we have spin that bottle many times here. Presidents do not have control of the economy. They have little affect on the economy, because they can't force businesses to do anything.

Obama has instituted several programs that have increased the national debt, but these programs are not the cause of doubling the national debt. The ACA, and extending unemployment to 99 weeks are two. I have never blamed "W" for the great recession, but the great recession, and production jobs leaving the country had a lot to do with the increase of national debt under Obama.

The blame game for the increase in national debt just doesn't fly. The Republican candidates for president income tax reform are based upon a large increase in GNP. If this increase in the GNP doesn't happen, the national debt will skyrocket, because tax collections will go down.

Concerning Obama's legacy, doubling the national debt won't be held against him to the extent Republicans think. The bigger problem against him will be the extremes both parties have taken during his presidency. Whether he is to be blamed for this only time will tell.

Excellent synopsis!

[Guest]

The graph that I put up showed that Obama hasn't increased spending more than the past four presidents combined. Spending and increasing national debt are two different things. There was no mention of increasing national debt in the post that I responded too. Obama's spending practices are not out of control as shown by the graph.

Concerning doubling the national debt, we have spin that bottle many times here. Presidents do not have control of the economy. They have little affect on the economy, because they can't force businesses to do anything.

Obama has instituted several programs that have increased the national debt, but these programs are not the cause of doubling the national debt. The ACA, and extending unemployment to 99 weeks are two. I have never blamed "W" for the great recession, but the great recession, and production jobs leaving the country had a lot to do with the increase of national debt under Obama.

The blame game for the increase in national debt just doesn't fly. The Republican candidates for president income tax reform are based upon a large increase in GNP. If this increase in the GNP doesn't happen, the national debt will skyrocket, because tax collections will go down.

Concerning Obama's legacy, doubling the national debt won't be held against him to the extent Republicans think. The bigger problem against him will be the extremes both parties have taken during his presidency. Whether he is to be blamed for this only time will tell.

It's amazing when one submits actual facts and figures to support one's comment and then there are the one's that insist that it's someone else's fault. I gave you actual figures, even giving Obama the benefit of relieving him of any responsibility to the spending prior to the first fiscal year ending in his term, and yet every year his administration manages to spend a trillion bucks, and it is still Bush's fault or some other excuse...but never Obama's responsibility.

Well, I submitted facts and liberals submit innuendo. Reasons aside, the national debt will have DOUBLED under Obama's reign. Liberals can make all the excuses they wish, but facts can't be denied.

In my opinion, the largest mistake Bush made was changing the tax requirements for those at the lower half of the income level. Now, because of that and the Dems exploiting that action, we have the 47 percent of those that pay little to no taxes having their vote being bought by the liberals/socialists. As much as I respect Bush, I hold that against him. That is hard to undo. So, instead of liberals attempting to cut spending, they insist on raising taxes on those that already pay an unconstitutional amount. And I say it is illegal because the law says that no one can be discriminated and treated differently, and the wealthy are being punished for their success, while the lazy or unproductive are given a free pass. And I blame Bush for that too. Obama is just another socialist that is attempting to exploit the situation.

I am not going to give Obama a free pass on the economy. Other presidents have had depressions and recessions and did not take so long to get the economy back up to acceptable levels. Obama did everything he could to stagnate our economy, purposely trying to hinder production and punishing employers with restricting shackles, some even declared illegal by the Supreme Court.

Obama will have doubled the national debt by the time he leaves the White House, and that can not be denied, even by blaming someone else. The facts are there, regardless of how one wishes to explain them.

[Guest]

It's amazing when one submits actual facts and figures to support one's comment and then there are the one's that insist that it's someone else's fault. I gave you actual figures, even giving Obama the benefit of relieving him of any responsibility to the spending prior to the first fiscal year ending in his term, and yet every year his administration manages to spend a trillion bucks, and it is still Bush's fault or some other excuse...but never Obama's responsibility.

Well, I submitted facts and liberals submit innuendo. Reasons aside, the national debt will have DOUBLED under Obama's reign. Liberals can make all the excuses they wish, but facts can't be denied.

In my opinion, the largest mistake Bush made was changing the tax requirements for those at the lower half of the income level. Now, because of that and the Dems exploiting that action, we have the 47 percent of those that pay little to no taxes having their vote being bought by the liberals/socialists. As much as I respect Bush, I hold that against him. That is hard to undo. So, instead of liberals attempting to cut spending, they insist on raising taxes on those that already pay an unconstitutional amount. And I say it is illegal because the law says that no one can be discriminated and treated differently, and the wealthy are being punished for their success, while the lazy or unproductive are given a free pass. And I blame Bush for that too. Obama is just another socialist that is attempting to exploit the situation.

I am not going to give Obama a free pass on the economy. Other presidents have had depressions and recessions and did not take so long to get the economy back up to acceptable levels. Obama did everything he could to stagnate our economy, purposely trying to hinder production and punishing employers with restricting shackles, some even declared illegal by the Supreme Court.

Obama will have doubled the national debt by the time he leaves the White House, and that can not be denied, even by blaming someone else. The facts are there, regardless of how one wishes to explain them.

When you don't look at the reasons that the debt has almost doubled under Obama, the fact that it did becomes meaningless, because you are not interested in why.

You are not going to give Obama a free pass on the economy. What a surprise!

Lincoln was the worse president ever, because more Americans died in his war than all other presidents combined. Isn't that a fact? So, why did we give him a monument, and put him of the five dollar bill?

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When you don't look at the reasons that the debt has almost doubled under Obama, the fact that it did becomes meaningless, because you are not interested in why.

You are not going to give Obama a free pass on the economy. What a surprise!

Lincoln was the worse president ever, because more Americans died in his war than all other presidents combined. Isn't that a fact? So, why did we give him a monument, and put him of the five dollar bill?

Because he was the first Republican president. That was enough to warrant that recognition. :a040:

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We missed a man who would have been a great President in M. Romney.
I would vote for Carly F. She understands business and would bring common sense back to our nations government.
Hillary is a socialist and would do great harm.
If she wins ......well I'm glad that I'm old.

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Ronald Reagan? Seriously?? His trickle down economics has ruined our economy. 14% interest rates when he was in office. Oh, and let's not forget all he did for the country with his anti-trust policies. It's amazing how a good looking, smooth talking actor can fool an entire party.

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Ronald Reagan? Seriously?? His trickle down economics has ruined our economy. 14% interest rates when he was in office. Oh, and let's not forget all he did for the country with his anti-trust policies. It's amazing how a good looking, smooth talking actor can fool an entire party.

Nice try, but no one is going to believe you. Reagan brought us back from Jimmy "the peanut" Carter's ruin. I bought a house during Carters term and I know what the interest rates were then, as well as inflation and as well as gas prices. During the Carter term, mortgage interest rates went from 8.5% up to over 15% before Reagan was even elected. Reagan put more people back to work and the economy boomed by the end of this term. But, you should know all that. You should also know that even as sick as he was, he had such a great team around him that he achieved more than any other president in history as far as foreign diplomacy is concerned. He freed the Iran hostages, caused the Berlin wall to be torn down and even bankrupted the Soviet Union to the point of destroying communism in Russia. Of course, you liberals are doing your best to reinstate communism here in the U.S.

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Bernie

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Hillary or Bernie.

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Anyone but Hillary and Bernie

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Trump

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Ok, you can dump the Trump now. Mission accomplished.

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Mitt Romney

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Reagan

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Bernie or Hillary.

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Bernie or Hillary.

Bernie is not eligible because he is more dead than alive. Hilary is not eligible because she is a felon.

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Bernie is not eligible because he is more dead than alive. Hilary is not eligible because she is a felon.

Cruz is a Canadian anchor baby. Trump, Cruz, and the other Republicans are just too stupid.

In order to be a felon, you have to be convicted of a felony. That has not happened with Mrs. Clinton. But you have just been convicted of stupidity.

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...and your foolish write in vote of Romney would be a waste of your vote. You only have one vote - make it count - vote for Hillary Clinton!

You can't be serious. Clinton? We'll be in worse shape than with the dumbo we have right now. BTW, how do you like the idiot and his family going to Hawaii a couple of times a year on our dime?

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Hillary or Bernie? Then we'll have at least 4 more years of the same dumbs**t we have now. There are more numnut democrats in TV than I thought.

Trump and Cruz is THE TICKET.

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Hillary

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Hillary Clinton

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You can close this thread now. It's going nowhere.

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I'm appalled at the immaturity and disrespect of the Republican responses here! This is the bigotry that drives the Republican party.

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It's not going the way you want, you meant!?

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I'm appalled at the immaturity and disrespect of the Republican responses here! This is the bigotry that drives the Republican party.

Examples please. I am sure that you meant Liberal responses, but why don't you make it clear? As far as I am concerned they can close this thread down. It seems that you are attempting to keep it going for some unknown reason.

I have yet to see anything resembling "bigotry" in any of today's threads, even from the left, but I may have missed something. Maybe you do not have an understanding of the term?

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Going to vote for Shrilary?

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After the joker we have in office now, we need someone with some great experience to help turn this mess around, although it may be too late. IMO, John Kasich is the most qualified, proven performer of the bunch but pretty obvious he does not have a chance if polls mean anything. :boxing2:

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After the joker we have in office now, we need someone with some great experience to help turn this mess around, although it may be too late. IMO, John Kasich is the most qualified, proven performer of the bunch but pretty obvious he does not have a chance if polls mean anything. :boxing2:

I'll take the bait, Sybil. IMO Kasich is good at numbers, but is too far left for my liking. I like the guy, other than his stance on some issues where he is way to far left. But, as you know it is a moot point. He is very near to dropping out of the campaign. He does seem like an honest chap, so it is too bad he has waited too long in his political career to jump in. He did a pretty good job in D.C. as well as in his position as Governor. But, the primary elections are getting close for some states, so if anyone is going to move up in ranking, they better do it soon.