pool costs

[happydaze]

can anyone tell me the approximate cost of a new pool. we would like it to be about 12x20 with a small water feature and birdcage. we would like to use t&d or all seasons.thanks for any replys.

[Kahuna32162]

Our pool was installed by T&D in 2007 (by a previous owner) Pool, birdcage and filter/heater system was $37K.

[villagetinker]

Also check on the monthly upkeep costs, I am guessing that based on our hot tub, you will be looking at $100 or more per month for weekly maintenance. You will also have the heating costs, either solar, electric, or gas. No idea of the cost of these systems, but recently there was a thread about the high costs of propane and the TV was a captive market for Suburban Propane.
As for your pool, there are way too many variables to get a good cost here, IMHO. In a Birdcage? Type of birdcage, aluminum or columns? Size of Birdcage? Concrete finish? Type of screening? Electrical service to this area? Additional landscaping, moving existing irrigation, etc.
Hope this helps.

[Kahuna32162]

Very good point, all of these are factors. We pay $106/month for maint and did look into coveting to the solar heat option after our existing heat pump fails. Cost about $4500, but will not do you much good in cooler weather. You can also usually count on your pool be shut down for part of December, January and February depending on the weather. It was very cold here last winter.

[Bogie Shooter]

It costs nothing to get an estimate.......from a pool contractor.

[justjim]

I would give T & D a call and get an appointment for an exact cost. There are so many variables when it comes to a pool----$50,000 to $65,000 would be my educated guess.

[The Buckeyes]

Size and options are the variables that will determine the cost. Get an estimate from both. We went with T&D. Just remember you get what you pay for. Don't forget warranty and servicing any problems you may have after installation.

[Chatbrat]

A pool is a personalized toy. Don't count on recovering anything close to your costs. Its for personal enjoyment & convenience.

[jimbo2012]

You can also usually count on your pool be shut down for part of December, January and February depending on the weather. It was very cold here last winter.

Just get solar panels sized correctly swim almost all year.

A pool is a personalized toy. Don't count on recovering anything close to your costs. Its for personal enjoyment & convenience.

You will not only recover your costs but the home will sell faster.

[John_W]

I had an 18 x 36 vinyl pool at my home in Pensacola from 1978 to 1982 and I maintained it myself. We didn't have birdcages, all pools in Pensacola and Ft. Walton Beach area just have fencing around your yard but no aluminum birdcage screen. I don't understand what all the costs are that come to $100 a month maintenance.

My biggest expense was the pool filter electricity, which ran a $1 a day, $30 a month on the electric bill. SECO here in Sumter County is much cheaper, we had extremly high bills in Escambia County. My normal routine was I would go outside and check both skimmer baskets everyday, just empty them out on the ground if anything was inside. Without the birdcage we did have leaves and one time a water moccasin, that a nice surprise. I had an automated chlorinator attached to the filter and I would buy cartridges at Walmart for about $12 and each one lasted about 3 weeks. I would also buy a 50 gallon drum of raw chlorine that I would dump a good amount into the pool every spring to shock the pool. I would run the hand held net across the top of the water to pick up any loose leaves or pine needles, etc. The Kreepy Krawler would sweep around on the bottom and I would backwash the pool filter about once a week. I would check the ph levels about once a week or whenever it might look a little bad, which was really never. I think vinyl pools are inherently clearer because only vinyl is touching the water. I maybe spent 10 to 15 minutes a day of my time, and this is when I had a job and not retired.

My pool looked very similar to this vinyl pool. You can see a white coping edge around the top of the pool, that holds the liner. I like the looks of a vinyl pool because they usually come with a tile border, which is imprinted in the liner, and you can even get designs for the bottom. The sides of the pool are constructed with 4' high plastic panels that lock together and they insert foam padding on the sides as well. The bottom is sculpted using vermiculite which runs up the sides in the deep area until they reach the side panels. Once it's completed the liner is much more comfortable on your feet as you walk around the pool. The sides are softer in case you hit your knees because of the padding. The pool stays clear much easier and retains the heat longer. In 1978 I had the pool installed with one ladder, steps, a diving board and one underwater light plus a good amount of decking for a total cost of $7,800. How times have changed.

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[kcrazorbackfan]

Years back, I owned a home with a pool in Arkansas; it was a continual hole in the ground to pour money into. Sold the house, bought another one (w/o a pool) and bought a couple of airplanes - found out that those were continual holes in the sky to pour money into. Sooooooo glad we bought a home here 5 houses from the neighborhood pool.

I now let someone else deal with the continual expense, maintenance and headaches. :a040::a040:

[john1953]

Our pool was built in 2010 by T&D.Its 14 x 24 concrete with a water fall.Goes form 3 1/2 feet to 6 1/2 feet.total cost with birdcage and redoing the landscaping with brick pavers was 40 grand

[talgeria]

All seasons did a good job good price

[Roaddog53]

I have had 2 pools in TV built aftermarket in the last 3 years and 3 in previous residences indoor and outdoor. If you have someone maintain your pool it is what they are saying, about $100 a month includingcleaning, and chemicals depending on pool size. I maintain it myself. Very easy to do andcost sonly chemicals. I have it checked as a second verification and to keep the warranty by Pinch a Penny. You need records of upkeep by a pool business.
Costs I track: 10,500 gal pool
Chemicals
$19 per month for an Ozone (All Seaons)/UV(T&D uses) pool system
$25 per month for a salt system. Mostly in acid
Pump electrical
$17-20 per month approximately avg all year. Runs less in winter
$75 every 2 years for a new filter avg if maintained correctly

Pools vary pricing as said. T&D will be the highest,but by far the best in what you get if compared apples to apples. Their warranty and service is excellent. They have great pool ideas.
Figure about $45-50,000 for a nice pool. No concrete walls, a waterfall, and some extras like cap tile.
Get the auto drain/fill option and antifreeze option. WELL worth it!

In my opinion, an ozone/UV pool is the best system out there by far. Cleaner, less chemicals, letter feeling on skin, much easier on pool equipment and accessories such as chrome. Also, replacing a salt generator is expensive in about 5 years or so. All Olympic pools worldwide use ozone and many municipalities. It is also used by municipalities to maintain public water. Check it out for yourself.

Solar? Just my opinion! ... Not worth it. About $4500-6000 depending on pool size and panels. It gives you in central Florida about 6 additional weeks of swimming in the winter. Maybe from late November to January. There is NO monetary payback on it unless you compare it to using propane, or your payback is the added 6 weeks you might swim. Yes it can heat your pool, and in some cases cool itin the summer. Ours stays in the mid 80s May through October with no cover on it either.Ask how many swim in Dec-Feb in their solar pools. Go to the community pools and see how many are there when it is 50-60 outside let alone their own. We swim from early March to mid November with no cover and pool in the mid-high 70s. Ours was73 yesterday.
Propane? Be prepared to spend $200+ a month depending on how warm you want to keep it in the winter and how often would you go in it.
You would need to keep a cover on either system in those months to battle the 28-45 degree nights.
Remember, you can always go in the community pools during those months.
Hope that helps

[simpilot]

There are so many options you need to choose when buying a pool that the price could vary by a factor of almost three. Type of decking, square feet of decking, tile selection, raised sections of deck, water features, underwater lighting, length of steps, swimouts, .... The point is you need to get an estimate for what you like.

[Astropoint]

We just installed a 12x24' pool from t&d. It goes from 3.6 to 5.5' deep. It has a rock waterfall solar and heat pump. It was $73K.

[zendog3]

Our pool installed at build was about $ 50K additional. We pay $100 a month to T&D for maintenance. (The guy comes every Thurs. and is here for about 45 minutes scrubbing and balancing.) We have a hot tub and a pool. We use the pool very seldom. It is covered from Nov. to March. Realistically, we are paying all that money to have something pretty to sit around with friends. Pools are a money pit. The only way it can be considered "worth it" is if money is not a concern to you. I am a "green" guy, but unfortunately solar will never pay for itself in our lifetimes. We have a "salt water" pool heated with a heat pump. No reason for those choices but we are happy with them. You have to have a bird cage in TV unless you live in a villa and have a fence.

We use the pool maybe 2 hours a week between March and November. We use the hot tub 3 or 4 nights a week all year around. Don't come looking into my back yard after 10:30 pm as you might be seeing a naked fogie. :-)

[Ithreeputtoo]

My pool was done by T&D back in 2010. They did a great job and I recommend them. Be careful of any pool contractor that wants money up front as a neighbor got taken for a large sum of money by a pool contractor. T&D does there contract with a draw at certain levels. My cost was $53k. My mansard is over 900 sq ft. and the pool is large as well. I also have an in ground hot tub which added to my cost. It is a salt water pool and the maintenance is much easier. Electric for both pumps runs about $100 a month. The pool pump is a bigger pump and runs longer than the hot tub pump. I had T&D service weekly until about a year ago and now we do it ourselves. The charged $24 a week and included all the chemicals needed. You still have to buy filters etc. T&D retail stores will check you water weekly for free if you bring it in and give you a report telling you what you need to do. That is what we are doing now. I did not do solar so have no knowledge on that.

I hope this helps you.

[OhioBuckeye]

I had an 18 x 36 vinyl pool at my home in Pensacola from 1978 to 1982 and I maintained it myself. We didn't have birdcages, all pools in Pensacola and Ft. Walton Beach area just have fencing around your yard but no aluminum birdcage screen. I don't understand what all the costs are that come to $100 a month maintenance.

My biggest expense was the pool filter electricity, which ran a $1 a day, $30 a month on the electric bill. SECO here in Sumter County is much cheaper, we had extremly high bills in Escambia County. My normal routine was I would go outside and check both skimmer baskets everyday, just empty them out on the ground if anything was inside. Without the birdcage we did have leaves and one time a water moccasin, that a nice surprise. I had an automated chlorinator attached to the filter and I would buy cartridges at Walmart for about $12 and each one lasted about 3 weeks. I would also buy a 50 gallon drum of raw chlorine that I would dump a good amount into the pool every spring to shock the pool. I would run the hand held net across the top of the water to pick up any loose leaves or pine needles, etc. The Kreepy Krawler would sweep around on the bottom and I would backwash the pool filter about once a week. I would check the ph levels about once a week or whenever it might look a little bad, which was really never. I think vinyl pools are inherently clearer because only vinyl is touching the water. I maybe spent 10 to 15 minutes a day of my time, and this is when I had a job and not retired.

My pool looked very similar to this vinyl pool. You can see a white coping edge around the top of the pool, that holds the liner. I like the looks of a vinyl pool because they usually come with a tile border, which is imprinted in the liner, and you can even get designs for the bottom. The sides of the pool are constructed with 4' high plastic panels that lock together and they insert foam padding on the sides as well. The bottom is sculpted using vermiculite which runs up the sides in the deep area until they reach the side panels. Once it's completed the liner is much more comfortable on your feet as you walk around the pool. The sides are softer in case you hit your knees because of the padding. The pool stays clear much easier and retains the heat longer. In 1978 I had the pool installed with one ladder, steps, a diving board and one underwater light plus a good amount of decking for a total cost of $7,800. How times have changed.

http://st.hzcdn.com/simgs/b601204b00731941_4-0392/traditional-pool.jpg I agree John! I never had a pool but family members did. Since I've lived in The Villages it seems like businesses & private contractors are taking advantage of the older people or these people have so much money they don't know what to do with it. To me it seems like a waste to spend $50,000 on a pool. They'll never get their money back out of their house & you just get added taxes on it. My gosh there's so many pools in The Villages & you'll never get your money back out of your house. They're nice but you have to do a lot of swimming to cover $50,000. & lots of annual maintenance.

[jimbo2012]

For some reason vinyl pools are not used here is because they contractor can't make score on profit?

Another o[option is a fiberglass pool, they come in all sizes, most are $7500-15,000 depending on size.

Again not used much.

I know T&D charges the same for concrete which is crazy.

Nice thing with FG is they did the hole, drop it in in one day, plumb it the next.

THe labor is much much less.

FG pools should sell here with a bird cage for well under $30K, see Sun Pools, they deliver here on a regular basis, I bought mine from them, installed it myself, I know that's not typical.

As far as getting your investment back just look at resales with pools......



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[Cart401]

$75,000.00 will do it.

[John Palanci]

Besides the pool figure few $$$ for permit