Potential Newbie Has Question about Political Climate

[Guest]

I am a New Yorker and am looking for a community that is fun, positive and where I can meet new friends. Everyone raves about The Villages up here. Can you tell me if there is racial and political diversity? I known my own values and who I am going to vote for and I don't like hearing a lot of "ranting" about politics. That is what is going on a lot where I live and I would love to get away from it. Any feedback would be welcome. Thanks!

[Guest]

If you read on the political forums, there is lots of ranting. I find most everybody is civil and nice to each other in public.

[Guest]

About 70% of Villages residents are Republicans and my guess it is about 90% white. I would not classify The Villages as racially or politically diverse. Almost everyone you meet in person is friendly, not necessarily the case on TOTV political forum, but you don't have to read it or participate if you don't want to.

[Guest]

98.35% white, 0.9% Asian, remainder split among Hispanic, African-American, and native Americans. Diversity is an artificial construct of the far left, we need it like a hole in the head. Everything is just fine here.

[Guest]

98.35% white, 0.9% Asian, remainder split among Hispanic, African-American, and native Americans. Diversity is an artificial construct of the far left, we need it like a hole in the head. Everything is just fine here.

:agree:...:thumbup:

[Guest]

Dear Guest & OP: Most cultural divides are engineered by political and financial elites. You will find that the particular demographic here because of their stage in life while patriotic are less prone to force their political views on others. Perhaps its because this is a generation that understood the benefit of reticence, perhaps because they have enough of the fight or simply because they at this stage in life are more individualist than collectivists ?

New York politic while more freely expressed does not seem to play well here in The Villages. There is in my view "a live let live" philosophy and one that is most welcome. However you will take note that a very high percentage of the demographic here vote and that's the only thing that really matters.

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

You will find PC even down here in the conservative dominated community, although it is relaxed a bit because of seniors being allowed to be a little spontaneous with their verbiage, respecting their age. Most of us do not consider "diversity" to be a factor in our choice to move here. I didn't. I do not consider diversity to be something special and do not look for it in people. Color or sexual deviation does not factor into my day to day lifestyle and I allow others to work it out in their own manner, as long as it does not effect me. I do not cater to anyone that wants special treatment due to their implied status in a particular minority. I do not consider one's religion, race, sexual deviation or political party to be a determining factor in how I treat someone, UNTIL they indicate that they believe they should get special consideration. Then I avoid them. The Villages is mostly conservative by choice. If you are looking to change a community, then it is probably not the best choice for you, as most here are already set in their ways. If you are looking for a friendly community that accepts people of peculiarities, then you might like this place. Many of us are very accepting of differing natures, but may become opinionated if drawn into a conversation on a subject. PC is not much of a factor limiting our conversations down here. We prefer honesty over PC. Respect it or not, that's the way we are. I can't speak for everyone else, but that is my observation and opinion.

[Guest]

Dear Guest & OP: Most cultural divides are engineered by political and financial elites. You will find that the particular demographic here because of their stage in life while patriotic are less prone to force their political views on others. Perhaps its because this is a generation that understood the benefit of reticence, perhaps because they have enough of the fight or simply because they at this stage in life are more individualist than collectivists ?

New York politic while more freely expressed does not seem to play well here in The Villages. There is in my view "a live let live" philosophy and one that is most welcome. However you will take note that a very high percentage of the demographic here vote and that's the only thing that really matters.

Personal Best Regards:

most cultural divisions are fostered by the people themselves in wanting to be with others who are like minded. Perhaps the divides of which you mention are the slums and uber rich enclaves. Putting the blame of such divides on politics and financial elites is removing the lack of motivation and responsibility from those who are "have nots".

There are too many cases of the so-called "down trodden" moving upwards to support your supposition.

Merry Christmas.

[Guest]

most cultural divisions are fostered by the people themselves in wanting to be with others who are like minded. Perhaps the divides of which you mention are the slums and uber rich enclaves. Putting the blame of such divides on politics and financial elites is removing the lack of motivation and responsibility from those who are "have nots".

There are too many cases of the so-called "down trodden" moving upwards to support your supposition.

Merry Christmas.

That doesn't make sense. Are you agreeing or disagreeing? If disagreeing, then what are you disagreeing with? Your comment is a contradiction in itself.

[Guest]

98.35% white, 0.9% Asian, remainder split among Hispanic, African-American, and native Americans. Diversity is an artificial construct of the far left, we need it like a hole in the head. Everything is just fine here.

I think I should clarify my statement so it does not sound "racist"--far from it. I wouldn't care if TV was 98% black or 98% gay. It is the people and how they behave and interact with each other and the environment created by "The Developer" that makes this place great. "Diversity" has nothing to do with it. If diversity develops naturally in a particular location, fine. But to force diversity by edict or regulation where it does not naturally exist is a formula for problems.

[Guest]

I think I should clarify my statement so it does not sound "racist"--far from it. I wouldn't care if TV was 98% black or 98% gay. It is the people and how they behave and interact with each other and the environment created by "The Developer" that makes this place great. "Diversity" has nothing to do with it. If diversity develops naturally in a particular location, fine. But to force diversity by edict or regulation where it does not naturally exist is a formula for problems.

:thumbup:

[Guest]

I'm a diehard liberal. I love GOOD political discourse. Sadly, a thing few and far between here. That being said, aside from some condescension (I'm still waiting for the pat on the head move), I've found the vast majority of Villagers to be kind, generous and happy. There is a very active Democratic Club here. The African-American Club is thriving, as is the Hispanic Club. So far as I know, there is no "gay" club but there is a very active gay community here. All in all, we are pretty accepting of our differences. Fitting in and making friends is not a problem, even for New Yorkers.

[Guest]

I'm a diehard liberal. I love GOOD political discourse. Sadly, a thing few and far between here. That being said, aside from some condescension (I'm still waiting for the pat on the head move), I've found the vast majority of Villagers to be kind, generous and happy. There is a very active Democratic Club here. The African-American Club is thriving, as is the Hispanic Club. So far as I know, there is no "gay" club but there is a very active gay community here. All in all, we are pretty accepting of our differences. Fitting in and making friends is not a problem, even for New Yorkers.

*HOW TO BECOME A LIBERAL*

1. You must believe the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.
2. You must believe the same teacher who cannot teach 4th graders to read is somehow qualified to teach them about sex.
3. You must believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than nuclear weapons in the hands of Iranian jihadists..
4. You must believe there was no art before Federal funding.
5. You must believe global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate, and more affected by SUVs.
6. You must believe gender roles are artificial, but homosexuality is natural.
7. You must be against capital punishment, but in favor of abortion on demand.
8. You must believe business creates oppression and the government creates prosperity.
9. You must believe self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
10. You must believe the military, not politicians, start wars where military personnel, not politicians, die.
11. You must believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution
12. You must believe taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.
13. You must believe standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides aren't.
14. You must believe Hillary Clinton and Elena Kagan are ladies.
15. You must believe the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.
16. You must believe homosexual parades are Constitutionally protected, but manger displays at Christmas are illegal.
17. You must believe that anyone who dislikes "ANYTHING" about Obama is a racist.
18. You must believe that anyone who wants to pay less tax and take back the extreme weakening in Washington is an idiot.
19. You must believe that everything that is going wrong now is Bush's fault.
20. YOU MUST LOVE THE CHANGE YOU VOTED FOR!

[Guest]

Not sure if this is redundant, but in the good natured spirit of bashing the liberal

You might be a liberal if…

you break out in a cold sweat at the mention of the Constitution.
you own something that says “Dukakis for President” and still display it.
you believe the Constitution is living but unborn babies aren’t.
you’ve never been mugged.
you believe that a democrat freed the slaves and a republican created the KKK.
you are only tolerant of people as long as they totally agree with you.
you think the Free Market is where they hand out Government cheese.
you have earrings in places that don’t have lobes.
you know at least one “vegan.”
if you think Benghazi is an Italian sports car maker.
you think that Supply Side Economics refers to your dope dealer’s stash.
you think “integrity” is a new foreign car model.
you still believe in Tinkerbell, the Tooth Fairy and Ted Kennedy.
you’ve ever tried to protect the ozone layer.
you love the spotted owl but have never seen one.
you think occupy Wall Street protesters are sane but Tea Partiers are nuts.
you can’t articulate one single word without a teleprompter.
you think the only absolute in life is vodka.
after looking at your pay stub you can still say, “America is under-taxed.”
you’ve stood for animal rights, but wear leather belts and sandals.
you pay 185% mark-up for organically grown food.
you abhor censorship unless it’s censoring race, religion, Conservatism, Western culture or Rush Limbaugh.
you would vote for Jimmy Carter for president again because he’s done such a good job running Habitat for Humanity.
you go to Gay Pride Day parades so that no one can call you homophobic.
you think having a picture of Jesus on school property is dangerous, but having a condom machine is not.
your wedding vows start with “I promise to be the man that my husband deserves.”
you regard luxury cars as personal excess but spend $1100 for a bike and $400 for a cappuccino machine.
you believe Oprah should have been Obama’s running mate.
you think the phrase “separation of Church and State” is in the constitution.
you think “ethics” is an eastern European country.
you think Jesse Jackson is a good spokesman for the black community.
you support PETA and Green Peace, but still eat beef, fish, lamb, and wear leather garments.
you respond to the “paper or plastic?” question with, “It doesn’t matter. I’m bi-sacksual.”
you think the National Organization for Women is made up of mostly heterosexual women with no lesbian agenda.
your innermost fear is that there might be an omniscient superior being other than yourself.
you want to protest something but don’t know what.
you do all of your grocery shopping on the 4th of each month.
you never told a child that Oscar the Grouch “lives in a trash can” because he chooses to do so.
you think denial is a virtue.
you are a hypocritical Catholic who votes for a baby exterminator every four years.
you think “safe sex” involves tying back your pony-tail.
you believe that watching “Will and Grace” re-runs makes you a defender of gay rights.
you despise the rich even though they pay your share of the taxes.
you get your news from MTV.
you think it’s wrong that “food stamps” can not be used for cigarettes, lottery tickets, and beer.
you give a Kenyan-born socialist an unlimited credit card and power over foreign relations.
you think Monica Lewinsky was a slut who threw herself at Wild Bill.
you believe that no teenager in the world is still a virgin, and that the very idea of virginity is somewhere between quaint and absurd.
you believe that Tolerance is the highest virtue, and that any expression of disagreement with your views of tolerance should be declared a “hate crime.”
you would rather have a free phone than a job.
you believe 59% of whites who voted for Romney are racists but 96% of blacks who voted for Obama are not.
you laugh at your redneck neighbor’s car on blocks while you continue to ride the bus.

[Guest]

Guess I just got the online version of a pat on the head. Sigh. I know it is hard for you conservative, Republican, whte men to believe, but most liberals are not stupid nor naive. We love this country. We do have work ethics. We are no more hypocritical than most average human beings. Many of us really do understand that a coin has two sides. We are tolerant of other people's foibles and beliefs. We may not like it, but we do believe the KKK has as much right to a parade as a peace protest. We do believe everyone should get a fair chance but not a free ride. We do believe that protecting the environment is important. We do believe that people should have the right to enjoy their sexual preference so long as it does not harm another. And so on and so forth. We ain't stupid nor blind.

Most liberals I know are sorely disappointed in Obama and not thrilled with the concept of Hillary as President. But we do think anyone would be better than Trump or Rubio. For now, I'm rooting for Rand Paul and he doesn't stand a snowball's chance. So, Mickey Mouse may end up getting my vote.

[Guest]

Guess I just got the online version of a pat on the head. Sigh. I know it is hard for you conservative, Republican, whte men to believe, but most liberals are not stupid nor naive. We love this country. We do have work ethics. We are no more hypocritical than most average human beings. Many of us really do understand that a coin has two sides. We are tolerant of other people's foibles and beliefs. We may not like it, but we do believe the KKK has as much right to a parade as a peace protest. We do believe everyone should get a fair chance but not a free ride. We do believe that protecting the environment is important. We do believe that people should have the right to enjoy their sexual preference so long as it does not harm another. And so on and so forth. We ain't stupid nor blind.

Most liberals I know are sorely disappointed in Obama and not thrilled with the concept of Hillary as President. But we do think anyone would be better than Trump or Rubio. For now, I'm rooting for Rand Paul and he doesn't stand a snowball's chance. So, Mickey Mouse may end up getting my vote.

Wow!----where did you get your impression of liberals, Fantasyland???? Sorry, but the liberals I know, as well as those on TV as "commentators" are only "tolerant" of those who agree with them, but since they have no logical arguments to support their point of view, resort to name calling and labeling everyone else "racist", "homophobic", or "islamophobic" They support open borders, a nuclear Iran, European style socialism, "free stuff" for those who produce absolutely nothing, including cell phones, cars, wide screen TVs, home computers and gaming systems, and college tuition. They bash anyone who owns a gun, while they themselves are protected by armed bodyguards. They think Islam is the "religion of peace"--religion of pieces is more like it. They join PETA, but support abortion. They think 67% of those incarcerated come from an ethnic group that is only 13% of the population because the criminal justice system is "racist", not because these are the people committing the violent crimes. They think they are safer from a mass shooter in a "gun free zone". And these are just the run of the mill liberals, not the extreme left "wacko birds" Like Bill O'Reilly says, "wise up"

[Guest]

Wow!----where did you get your impression of liberals, Fantasyland???? Sorry, but the liberals I know, as well as those on TV as "commentators" are only "tolerant" of those who agree with them, but since they have no logical arguments to support their point of view, resort to name calling and labeling everyone else "racist", "homophobic", or "islamophobic" They support open borders, a nuclear Iran, European style socialism, "free stuff" for those who produce absolutely nothing, including cell phones, cars, wide screen TVs, home computers and gaming systems, and college tuition. They bash anyone who owns a gun, while they themselves are protected by armed bodyguards. They think Islam is the "religion of peace"--religion of pieces is more like it. They join PETA, but support abortion. They think 67% of those incarcerated come from an ethnic group that is only 13% of the population because the criminal justice system is "racist", not because these are the people committing the violent crimes. They think they are safer from a mass shooter in a "gun free zone". And these are just the run of the mill liberals, not the extreme left "wacko birds" Like Bill O'Reilly says, "wise up"

That was a very good response. The only thing that I might add, is regarding his comment about tolerating the KKK. I guess he/she does not realize that the KKK was started by Democrats and that the Democrats were the ones that voted against abolishing slavery and then later against the equal rights amendment. But, I am sure that the confused liberal meant well.

[Guest]

*HOW TO BECOME A LIBERAL*

1. You must believe the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.
2. You must believe the same teacher who cannot teach 4th graders to read is somehow qualified to teach them about sex.
3. You must believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than nuclear weapons in the hands of Iranian jihadists..
4. You must believe there was no art before Federal funding.
5. You must believe global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate, and more affected by SUVs.
6. You must believe gender roles are artificial, but homosexuality is natural.
7. You must be against capital punishment, but in favor of abortion on demand.
8. You must believe business creates oppression and the government creates prosperity.
9. You must believe self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
10. You must believe the military, not politicians, start wars where military personnel, not politicians, die.
11. You must believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution
12. You must believe taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.
13. You must believe standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides aren't.
14. You must believe Hillary Clinton and Elena Kagan are ladies.
15. You must believe the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.
16. You must believe homosexual parades are Constitutionally protected, but manger displays at Christmas are illegal.
17. You must believe that anyone who dislikes "ANYTHING" about Obama is a racist.
18. You must believe that anyone who wants to pay less tax and take back the extreme weakening in Washington is an idiot.
19. You must believe that everything that is going wrong now is Bush's fault.
20. YOU MUST LOVE THE CHANGE YOU VOTED FOR!


How to become a conservative acquire the ability to talk out of both sides of your mouth at the same time. Take a look at the chart of how much each state pays in income tax, and how much of that comes back to them.
Federal Taxes paid/received for each State (http://visualizingeconomics.com/blog/2010/02/17/federal-taxes-paidreceived-for-each-state/)

Now, do you want to talk about handouts, and who is receiving them!

[Guest]

That was a very good response. The only thing that I might add, is regarding his comment about tolerating the KKK. I guess he/she does not realize that the KKK was started by Democrats and that the Democrats were the ones that voted against abolishing slavery and then later against the equal rights amendment. But, I am sure that the confused liberal meant well.

I don't think they're confused at all---it's just they truly believe their distorted ideology, regardless of the facts. Too much Kool-Aid must kill brain cells

[Guest]

Guess I just got the online version of a pat on the head. Sigh. I know it is hard for you conservative, Republican, whte men to believe, but most liberals are not stupid nor naive. We love this country. We do have work ethics. We are no more hypocritical than most average human beings. Many of us really do understand that a coin has two sides. We are tolerant of other people's foibles and beliefs. We may not like it, but we do believe the KKK has as much right to a parade as a peace protest. We do believe everyone should get a fair chance but not a free ride. We do believe that protecting the environment is important. We do believe that people should have the right to enjoy their sexual preference so long as it does not harm another. And so on and so forth. We ain't stupid nor blind.

Most liberals I know are sorely disappointed in Obama and not thrilled with the concept of Hillary as President. But we do think anyone would be better than Trump or Rubio. For now, I'm rooting for Rand Paul and he doesn't stand a snowball's chance. So, Mickey Mouse may end up getting my vote.

If I was a Democrat, like my father was I would be voting for Mickey Mouse also. But, the Democrat party of today is NOT the DemocratIC party of yesteryear.

[Guest]

Guess I just got the online version of a pat on the head. Sigh. I know it is hard for you conservative, Republican, whte men to believe, but most liberals are not stupid nor naive. We love this country. We do have work ethics. We are no more hypocritical than most average human beings. Many of us really do understand that a coin has two sides. We are tolerant of other people's foibles and beliefs. We may not like it, but we do believe the KKK has as much right to a parade as a peace protest. We do believe everyone should get a fair chance but not a free ride. We do believe that protecting the environment is important. We do believe that people should have the right to enjoy their sexual preference so long as it does not harm another. And so on and so forth. We ain't stupid nor blind.

Most liberals I know are sorely disappointed in Obama and not thrilled with the concept of Hillary as President. But we do think anyone would be better than Trump or Rubio. For now, I'm rooting for Rand Paul and he doesn't stand a snowball's chance. So, Mickey Mouse may end up getting my vote.

Damn, I told you either John Kasich, or Donald Duck. Mickey Mouse is use to getting his own way like Trump. It is hard to understand Donald Duck, when he speaks. That would make him well qualified to become president.

[Guest]

If I was a Democrat, like my father was I would be voting for Mickey Mouse also. But, the Democrat party of today is NOT the DemocratIC party of yesteryear.

Agree with that. Today, JFK would probably be in the Tea Party. Gus Hall, who ran as the communist party candidate through that era, would be considered too moderate to join the Democratic party. I think Hugo Chavez might qualify, ...maybe

[Guest]

Damn, I told you either John Kasich, or Donald Duck. Mickey Mouse is use to getting his own way like Trump. It is hard to understand Donald Duck, when he speaks. That would make him well qualified to become president.

Donald has too many temper tantrums. Goofy might be a good Republican choice. How about Pluto for the Dems? I vote Independent, so really do try to pick the best candidate for my country at that time. Political party is irrelevant. (I don't like either party.)

And would dearly love to know where some if you are meeting the liberals you describe? Glad the ones I know are a bit more willing to think things through. Let's face it, no political party is perfect. We all should choose what we think is best for the country, not ourselves. It's a shame people can't vote with their minds rather than their emotions.

And, OP, sorry your thread has gone so far off topic, but it does give you an idea of what's here.

[Guest]

How to become a conservative acquire the ability to talk out of both sides of your mouth at the same time. Take a look at the chart of how much each state pays in income tax, and how much of that comes back to them.
Federal Taxes paid/received for each State (http://visualizingeconomics.com/blog/2010/02/17/federal-taxes-paidreceived-for-each-state/)

Now, do you want to talk about handouts, and who is receiving them!

That's your counterargument???? Lame doesn't begin to describe it. Waiting to be called a racist or homophobe.......

[Guest]

Donald has too many temper tantrums. Goofy might be a good Republican choice. How about Pluto for the Dems? I vote Independent, so really do try to pick the best candidate for my country at that time. Political party is irrelevant. (I don't like either party.)

And would dearly love to know where some if you are meeting the liberals you describe? Glad the ones I know are a bit more willing to think things through. Let's face it, no political party is perfect. We all should choose what we think is best for the country, not ourselves. It's a shame people can't vote with their minds rather than their emotions.

And, OP, sorry your thread has gone so far off topic, but it does give you an idea of what's here.

Independents are either liberal or conservative, but won't commit to either party. Independents can't vote in the primaries in many states, so being an Independent is just a facade. A Republican can vote Democrat and vice versa in the General election, so that is no excuse. I laugh when my brother tells me that he is an Independent, because he admits that he has ALWAYS voted Republican, even though he hates both parties. In his state, he cannot vote in the primary. I am very amused when someone tells me that he is an Independent so that he can vote for the one that is best for the country. Like no one else is voting for their country..... I have to call BS on that.

[Guest]

Independents are either liberal or conservative, but won't commit to either party. Independents can't vote in the primaries in many states, so being an Independent is just a facade. A Republican can vote Democrat and vice versa in the General election, so that is no excuse. I laugh when my brother tells me that he is an Independent, because he admits that he has ALWAYS voted Republican, even though he hates both parties. In his state, he cannot vote in the primary. I am very amused when someone tells me that he is an Independent so that he can vote for the one that is best for the country. Like no one else is voting for their country..... I have to call BS on that.

Like I have said before, I am registered Republican but ONLY to be able to vote in the Republican primary and do so with the hope of voting for the most outlandish one. Naturally, in the General, I go Democrat.

Lots and lots of us Democrats are doing the same thing. It was taught to us in the Democrat Clubs to hopefully screw up the Republicans even more than they are doing to themselves.

[Guest]

That's your counterargument???? Lame doesn't begin to describe it. Waiting to be called a racist or homophobe.......

Apparently, you have no problem with being called a hypocrite. When a list of total nonsense is match against reality, total nonsense will always prevail in the Republican world. Go Trump Go. We need a leader that excels in total nonsense. The path to the top always starts in the gutter. In Trump case, it will remain in the gutter. The gutter will protected his hair from being messed up by the wind.

[Guest]

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[Guest]

most cultural divisions are fostered by the people themselves in wanting to be with others who are like minded. Perhaps the divides of which you mention are the slums and uber rich enclaves. Putting the blame of such divides on politics and financial elites is removing the lack of motivation and responsibility from those who are "have nots".

There are too many cases of the so-called "down trodden" moving upwards to support your supposition.

Merry Christmas.

Dear Guest: I suggest you go back and re-read what I wrote. but before you do please make sure you have an understanding of the key words in my statement "engineered" "political class" "financial elitist" "individualist" "collectivist". Essentially you got yourself turned around

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

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[Guest]

You will find PC even down here in the conservative dominated community, although it is relaxed a bit because of seniors being allowed to be a little spontaneous with their verbiage, respecting their age. Most of us do not consider "diversity" to be a factor in our choice to move here. I didn't. I do not consider diversity to be something special and do not look for it in people. Color or sexual deviation does not factor into my day to day lifestyle and I allow others to work it out in their own manner, as long as it does not effect me. I do not cater to anyone that wants special treatment due to their implied status in a particular minority. I do not consider one's religion, race, sexual deviation or political party to be a determining factor in how I treat someone, UNTIL they indicate that they believe they should get special consideration. Then I avoid them. The Villages is mostly conservative by choice. If you are looking to change a community, then it is probably not the best choice for you, as most here are already set in their ways. If you are looking for a friendly community that accepts people of peculiarities, then you might like this place. Many of us are very accepting of differing natures, but may become opinionated if drawn into a conversation on a subject. PC is not much of a factor limiting our conversations down here. We prefer honesty over PC. Respect it or not, that's the way we are. I can't speak for everyone else, but that is my observation and opinion.

Dear Guest: What does your statement below mean? What would affect you as respects this issue? Is there a manner in which this issue may affect you without you actually being aware?

I am not being judgmental nor critical. Its just that something is obfuscating the intent of the statement and so I am curious to learn why?

I do not consider diversity to be something special and do not look for it in people. Color or sexual deviation does not factor into my day to day lifestyle and I allow others to work it out in their own manner, as long as it does not effect me.

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

Dear Guest: What does your statement below mean? What would affect you as respects this issue? Is there a manner in which this issue may affect you without you actually being aware?

I am not being judgmental nor critical. Its just that something is obfuscating the intent of the statement and so I am curious to learn why?

I do not consider diversity to be something special and do not look for it in people. Color or sexual deviation does not factor into my day to day lifestyle and I allow others to work it out in their own manner, as long as it does not effect me.

Personal Best Regards:

I apologize for not being more clear. Putting thoughts in writing is not quite the same as vocalizing them. What I meant is that unlike many others that seem to thrive on PC, I don't care about one's diversity, color, sexual orientation, religion, etc, as long as it does not effect my day to lifestyle. I may not approve of their lifestyle or even religion, but I don't consider one's color or lifestyle or religion any more special than mine. It may be different, but not special. I do not give special consideration for the diversity and if that's not PC, then they will just have to live with it. If I say something offensive, I apologize if I believe it is warranted. I treat others as I wish to be treated, NO better and no worst. I will leave special treatment of diversity to the liberals. I consider the group of "black lives matter" to be trouble makers and stupid. I consider the protesters of Wall St to be the same, trouble makers and stupid. Race doesn't matter to me and religion does not matter to me, even if I don't agree with their religion. I will respect their religion but will not give it special consideration or treatment. Political affiliation doesn't matter to me, even if I believe that today's democrats are not the same as the Democratic party of my father. I don't like where they are trying to steer America, but most of the Dems that I know, don't even realize what their party is doing to America. That's why I still get along fine with them. I just don't talk politics with my liberal friends because I don't wish to end our friendship when I set them straight :lipsrsealed: I won't get into sexual deviants because as long as they keep it in private, I have nothing to say about it. I don't have to agree with them, but they are not hurting me as long as they leave me and my family alone regarding their deviation. Same way with any other matter of sexuality.

That's what I meant. I participate in activities in The Villages and have no idea what anyone's political proclivity might be. Even if I did, I would not want to mix it with my activities.

[Guest]

If I was a Democrat, like my father was I would be voting for Mickey Mouse also. But, the Democrat party of today is NOT the DemocratIC party of yesteryear.

Neither is the Republican party

[Guest]

You are a conservative if:

your three golden rules are to criticize, condemn, and complain
you become speaker of the house; therefore, you need a disguise so you grow a beard
the best day of your life is when you resign as speaker of the house, so you sing a happy song on departure
you vote to repeal Obamacare 54 times, because your followers attention isn't longer than two weeks, and their memory is even shorter
you can't solve any problem, because solutions are "too hard", and you say that with a tear in your eye
you think Obama was foreign born, because Hawaii isn't a state
you can't be responsible for anything, because you don't do anything
you blame liberals for everything, because you know never do anything wrong
you want very social program cut except the ones that you are receiving, because those are great
you think Trump, and Cruz are the best thing since Reagan, although they are nothing like Reagan
you complain about 47% of people that don't pay taxes forgetting that 8 out of the 10 worse states are Republican
you complain about free handout, but your states are getting more federal aid than they pay in taxes.
you think that social security, Medicare, state income taxes, gasoline taxes, excise taxes, and sales taxes aren't really taxes so you can lump low income people in the 47% category
you complain about the president's ISIS ,and Syria game plans, but refuse to vote for any law to implement anything to solve these problems
you fall down a say a prayer every time Trump swears in public
you are against abortion, but do not want to pay a cent for a woman, who has a hard time supporting her children
you don't think global warming exist, because it is still cold in the winter
you don't want to accept climate change, because it was called global warming first
you think supply side economics works even though it has always failed, so you never learn from your mistakes
you think that the Hastert rule is in the Constitution
you think that only the Republican Senate leader can use the filibuster to stop legislation
you think that Obamacare will be repealed the first day a Republican becomes president
you think that Washington doesn't work, so your candidate is going to be someone that makes sure that it won't work
you want to close the government down every time you don't get your way
you want a strong military, but don't want to put your kids in harms way
you want the Hispanic vote, but do everything to make sure that they won't vote Republican
you think that deporting 12 million illegal aliens won't cost anything
you think that adding 20,000 border guards won't cost anything
you think that there is no way of getting around a wall
you think that you are the only party that cares about a safe America
you think that Archie Bunker was a liberal, because he only wanted everybody on a plane to be armed instead of everyone in the country
you are against every Heritage Foundation plan that Obama puts forward
you think that Fox News is "fair and balanced".
you can't understand why Glenn Beck was fired from Fox News
you think that any middle of the road Republican is either a RINO or RHINO.
you think that all Muslims should have to register like Jews in NAZI Germany
you think that the Supreme Court justices should vote based upon party affiliation rather than the law

Is that list long enough?

[Guest]

long, yes
Accurate, hardly

[Guest]

I apologize for not being more clear. Putting thoughts in writing is not quite the same as vocalizing them. What I meant is that unlike many others that seem to thrive on PC, I don't care about one's diversity, color, sexual orientation, religion, etc, as long as it does not effect my day to lifestyle. I may not approve of their lifestyle or even religion, but I don't consider one's color or lifestyle or religion any more special than mine. It may be different, but not special. I do not give special consideration for the diversity and if that's not PC, then they will just have to live with it. If I say something offensive, I apologize if I believe it is warranted. I treat others as I wish to be treated, NO better and no worst. I will leave special treatment of diversity to the liberals. I consider the group of "black lives matter" to be trouble makers and stupid. I consider the protesters of Wall St to be the same, trouble makers and stupid. Race doesn't matter to me and religion does not matter to me, even if I don't agree with their religion. I will respect their religion but will not give it special consideration or treatment. Political affiliation doesn't matter to me, even if I believe that today's democrats are not the same as the Democratic party of my father. I don't like where they are trying to steer America, but most of the Dems that I know, don't even realize what their party is doing to America. That's why I still get along fine with them. I just don't talk politics with my liberal friends because I don't wish to end our friendship when I set them straight :lipsrsealed: I won't get into sexual deviants because as long as they keep it in private, I have nothing to say about it. I don't have to agree with them, but they are not hurting me as long as they leave me and my family alone regarding their deviation. Same way with any other matter of sexuality.

That's what I meant. I participate in activities in The Villages and have no idea what anyone's political proclivity might be. Even if I did, I would not want to mix it with my activities.

Dear Guest: That aah moment. Indeed we agree and in an earlier post I referred to that as culture engineered by political class or financial elitist. And I suspect some of those people herded into such a culture class cringe also.

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

You are a conservative if:

your three golden rules are to criticize, condemn, and complain
you become speaker of the house; therefore, you need a disguise so you grow a beard
the best day of your life is when you resign as speaker of the house, so you sing a happy song on departure
you vote to repeal Obamacare 54 times, because your followers attention isn't longer than two weeks, and their memory is even shorter
you can't solve any problem, because solutions are "too hard", and you say that with a tear in your eye
you think Obama was foreign born, because Hawaii isn't a state
you can't be responsible for anything, because you don't do anything
you blame liberals for everything, because you know never do anything wrong
you want very social program cut except the ones that you are receiving, because those are great
you think Trump, and Cruz are the best thing since Reagan, although they are nothing like Reagan
you complain about 47% of people that don't pay taxes forgetting that 8 out of the 10 worse states are Republican
you complain about free handout, but your states are getting more federal aid than they pay in taxes.
you think that social security, Medicare, state income taxes, gasoline taxes, excise taxes, and sales taxes aren't really taxes so you can lump low income people in the 47% category
you complain about the president's ISIS ,and Syria game plans, but refuse to vote for any law to implement anything to solve these problems
you fall down a say a prayer every time Trump swears in public
you are against abortion, but do not want to pay a cent for a woman, who has a hard time supporting her children
you don't think global warming exist, because it is still cold in the winter
you don't want to accept climate change, because it was called global warming first
you think supply side economics works even though it has always failed, so you never learn from your mistakes
you think that the Hastert rule is in the Constitution
you think that only the Republican Senate leader can use the filibuster to stop legislation
you think that Obamacare will be repealed the first day a Republican becomes president
you think that Washington doesn't work, so your candidate is going to be someone that makes sure that it won't work
you want to close the government down every time you don't get your way
you want a strong military, but don't want to put your kids in harms way
you want the Hispanic vote, but do everything to make sure that they won't vote Republican
you think that deporting 12 million illegal aliens won't cost anything
you think that adding 20,000 border guards won't cost anything
you think that there is no way of getting around a wall
you think that you are the only party that cares about a safe America
you think that Archie Bunker was a liberal, because he only wanted everybody on a plane to be armed instead of everyone in the country
you are against every Heritage Foundation plan that Obama puts forward
you think that Fox News is "fair and balanced".
you can't understand why Glenn Beck was fired from Fox News
you think that any middle of the road Republican is either a RINO or RHINO.
you think that all Muslims should have to register like Jews in NAZI Germany
you think that the Supreme Court justices should vote based upon party affiliation rather than the law

Is that list long enough?

Dear Guest: I could logically counterpoint on every single statement you made but it would be much too long. So let me say with all due respect your thinking here is a prime example of the shallow, bias and delusional thinking conducted by so many progressives.

For example your statement referring to the repeal of Obamacare flys in the face of reason when by every measure, measures generated by different people many of whom have no axe to grind explain the disastrous affect this law has had on our economy.

Frankly I tired of trying to explain the facts of life to present day progressives ,its like talking to a drunk . Clearly the Democratic Party has been hijacked by radicals whose policies continue to sink this nation into mediocrity and when logical intelligent people try to explain such folly progressives respond with accusations of "the three golden rules of criticize, condemn and complain"from the Party of No. "Disingenuous", as you progressive are fond of saying, don't you think.

And by the way I am as inclined to disagree with many Republicans who place self interests ahead of national interest and that speaker who resigned singing a happy tune was one of them. And its beginning to look like the speaker with the newly grown beard is heading in the same direction with his agreement to fund Planned Parenthood.

Its no wonder Trump is trumping them all....and I am not fond of Trump

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

Dear Guest: I could logically counterpoint on every single statement you made but it would be much too long. So let me say with all due respect your thinking here is a prime example of the shallow, bias and delusional thinking conducted by so many progressives.

For example your statement referring to the repeal of Obamacare flys in the face of reason when by every measure, measures generated by different people many of whom have no axe to grind explain the disastrous affect this law has had on our economy.

Frankly I tired of trying to explain the facts of life to present day progressives ,its like talking to a drunk . Clearly the Democratic Party has been hijacked by radicals whose policies continue to sink this nation into mediocrity and when logical intelligent people try to explain such folly progressives respond with accusations of "the three golden rules of criticize, condemn and complain"from the Party of No. "Disingenuous", as you progressive are fond of saying, don't you think.

And by the way I am as inclined to disagree with many Republicans who place self interests ahead of national interest and that speaker who resigned singing a happy tune was one of them. And its beginning to look like the speaker with the newly grown beard is heading in the same direction with his agreement to fund Planned Parenthood.

Its no wonder Trump is trumping them all....and I am not fond of Trump

Personal Best Regards:

I tend to agree with most of what you said. However, I would be interested in what you would have done regarding the funding of PP. You do know that Obama promised/threatened to veto any budget where he didn't get his way. He does NOT compromise at all, and neither do most of his minions. Putting the GOP congress in a situation where he could tell everyone that they closed down the gov is his favorite strategy and it would hurt the upcoming elections. This presidential election is the difference in whether or not we have a country to give to our grandkids or not. This is a lot more important that winning a small fight, which would not be a win at all, considering his Veto. So, give me an idea that you believe that they have not thought of regarding the budget. How many years did the GOP complain about not having a budget under the Obummer regime? No, let them have their little satifcation now, and then slam the budget later, when we have to power to do so. Posturing we can leave for Obumble on SNL, and NBC. If we want to fix America after his attempt to destroy it, we have to be smarter than being baited into these little fights. The leader of the House is smart. He knows his numbers and will straighten out the budget in 2017

[Guest]

My father taught me that there are three things you don't talk about excep with family
POLITICS, RELIGION, MONEY
I still think he was right

[Guest]

My father taught me that there are three things you don't talk about excep with family
POLITICS, RELIGION, MONEY
I still think he was right

If you think like that, WHY are you on a Political forum? Are you lost? :shrug:

[Guest]

You are a conservative if:

your three golden rules are to criticize, condemn, and complain
you become speaker of the house; therefore, you need a disguise so you grow a beard
the best day of your life is when you resign as speaker of the house, so you sing a happy song on departure
you vote to repeal Obamacare 54 times, because your followers attention isn't longer than two weeks, and their memory is even shorter
you can't solve any problem, because solutions are "too hard", and you say that with a tear in your eye
you think Obama was foreign born, because Hawaii isn't a state
you can't be responsible for anything, because you don't do anything
you blame liberals for everything, because you know never do anything wrong
you want very social program cut except the ones that you are receiving, because those are great
you think Trump, and Cruz are the best thing since Reagan, although they are nothing like Reagan
you complain about 47% of people that don't pay taxes forgetting that 8 out of the 10 worse states are Republican
you complain about free handout, but your states are getting more federal aid than they pay in taxes.
you think that social security, Medicare, state income taxes, gasoline taxes, excise taxes, and sales taxes aren't really taxes so you can lump low income people in the 47% category
you complain about the president's ISIS ,and Syria game plans, but refuse to vote for any law to implement anything to solve these problems
you fall down a say a prayer every time Trump swears in public
you are against abortion, but do not want to pay a cent for a woman, who has a hard time supporting her children
you don't think global warming exist, because it is still cold in the winter
you don't want to accept climate change, because it was called global warming first
you think supply side economics works even though it has always failed, so you never learn from your mistakes
you think that the Hastert rule is in the Constitution
you think that only the Republican Senate leader can use the filibuster to stop legislation
you think that Obamacare will be repealed the first day a Republican becomes president
you think that Washington doesn't work, so your candidate is going to be someone that makes sure that it won't work
you want to close the government down every time you don't get your way
you want a strong military, but don't want to put your kids in harms way
you want the Hispanic vote, but do everything to make sure that they won't vote Republican
you think that deporting 12 million illegal aliens won't cost anything
you think that adding 20,000 border guards won't cost anything
you think that there is no way of getting around a wall
you think that you are the only party that cares about a safe America
you think that Archie Bunker was a liberal, because he only wanted everybody on a plane to be armed instead of everyone in the country
you are against every Heritage Foundation plan that Obama puts forward
you think that Fox News is "fair and balanced".
you can't understand why Glenn Beck was fired from Fox News
you think that any middle of the road Republican is either a RINO or RHINO.
you think that all Muslims should have to register like Jews in NAZI Germany
you think that the Supreme Court justices should vote based upon party affiliation rather than the law

Is that list long enough?
Thst may be the short list on this forum.

[Guest]

Thst may be the short list on this forum.

Have you been drinking again, chi?

[Guest]

You are a conservativebut likely a LIBERAL if:

your three golden rules are to criticize, condemn, and complain Note: Harry Reid, Peogrossi, Obama.
you become speaker of the house; therefore, you need a disguise so you grow a beard ?????? or a face lift (Pelosi)
the best day of your life is when you resign as speaker of the house, so you sing a happy song on departure (or spit like Pelosi?)
you vote to repeal Obamacare 54 times, because your followers attention isn't longer than two weeks, and their memory is even shorter (especially when Harry Reid refuses to do his job and holds ALL bills passed in the House)
you can't solve any problem, because solutions are "too hard", and you say that with a tear in your eye (never see a tear in Pelosi's eyes, except when she gets caught)
you think Obama was foreign born, because Hawaii isn't a state (or because his supposed father is African, but hasn't been proved yet)
you can't be responsible for anything, because you don't do anything (for two whole years with only Obamacare passed and that will bankrupt America)
you blame liberals for everything, because you know never do anything wrong (may be too difficult to interpret what that means)
you want very social program cut except the ones that you are receiving, because those are great (another hard to interpret)
you think Trump, and Cruz are the best thing since Reagan, although they are nothing like Reagan (I don't know anyone that thinks like that, but they are better than Obama and Hillary)
you complain about 47% of people that don't pay taxes forgetting that 8 out of the 10 worse states are Republican (and the worst crime rates are in Dem controlled states)
you complain about free handout, but your states are getting more federal aid than they pay in taxes. (nice spin on the real truth)
you think that social security, Medicare, state income taxes, gasoline taxes, excise taxes, and sales taxes aren't really taxes so you can lump low income people in the 47% category (no one said that but liberals. 47% don't pay INCOME taxes. Clear enough for you?)
you complain about the president's ISIS ,and Syria game plans, but refuse to vote for any law to implement anything to solve these problems (voting to do nothing but talk is not reasonable)
you fall down a say a prayer every time Trump swears in public (another hard to interpret. Perhaps an English refresher?)
you are against abortion, but do not want to pay a cent for a woman, who has a hard time supporting her children (Conservatives donate to charity. Where are the liberals hiding when the plate is passed around? )
you don't think global warming exist, because it is still cold in the winter (you are right, we don't believe in it. The ice caps are getting thicker)
you don't want to accept climate change, because it was called global warming first (the climate changes with the seasons. No one debates that)
you think supply side economics works even though it has always failed, so you never learn from your mistakes (and that's why we are the most successful country in the world, because it fails....OK)
you think that the Hastert rule is in the Constitution (English a second language?)
you think that only the Republican Senate leader can use the filibuster to stop legislation (Harry didn't need the filibuster to stop legislation for how many years?)
you think that Obamacare will be repealed the first day a Republican becomes president (we can only pray, and you will too when you get the bill)
you think that Washington doesn't work, so your candidate is going to be someone that makes sure that it won't work (the country is better off when they don't work, as proved by the past seven years or so. )
you want to close the government down every time you don't get your way(Obama says that as he threatens to veto everything when he doesn't get his way, like a petulant child)
you want a strong military, but don't want to put your kids in harms way (nope, that's the liberals that won't let their kids join the miitary)
you want the Hispanic vote, but do everything to make sure that they won't vote Republican (Won't let Illegals vote. There really is a difference, you know?)
you think that deporting 12 million illegal aliens won't cost anything (no one ever said that, but it will cost us less than allowing them to stay)
you think that adding 20,000 border guards won't cost anything (no one said that either, but it won't cost liberals anything because they don't pay taxes)
you think that there is no way of getting around a wall (the racism wall is difficult to get around and it is used quite frequently by liberals)
you think that you are the only party that cares about a safe America (that is proven)
you think that Archie Bunker was a liberal, because he only wanted everybody on a plane to be armed instead of everyone in the country(don't diss' Archie)
you are against every Heritage Foundation plan that Obama puts forward (If Obama endorses it, then there is something wrong with it. He has never been right yet)
you think that Fox News is "fair and balanced". (and liberals think NBC is conservative)
you can't understand why Glenn Beck was fired from Fox News (was he? And do we care?)
you think that any middle of the road Republican is either a RINO or RHINO. (middle to a liberal is Hillary and slightly left is Sanders)
you think that all Muslims should have to register like Jews in NAZI Germany (good idea. Were Jews dangerous?)
you think that the Supreme Court justices should vote based upon party affiliation rather than the law (they don't?)

Is that list long enough?

It's a desperate attempt at imitation, but just didn't quite have the same effect.

[Guest]

You are a conservativebut likely a LIBERAL if:

your three golden rules are to criticize, condemn, and complain Note: Harry Reid, Peogrossi, Obama.
you become speaker of the house; therefore, you need a disguise so you grow a beard ?????? or a face lift (Pelosi)
the best day of your life is when you resign as speaker of the house, so you sing a happy song on departure (or spit like Pelosi?)
you vote to repeal Obamacare 54 times, because your followers attention isn't longer than two weeks, and their memory is even shorter (especially when Harry Reid refuses to do his job and holds ALL bills passed in the House)
you can't solve any problem, because solutions are "too hard", and you say that with a tear in your eye (never see a tear in Pelosi's eyes, except when she gets caught)
you think Obama was foreign born, because Hawaii isn't a state (or because his supposed father is African, but hasn't been proved yet)
you can't be responsible for anything, because you don't do anything (for two whole years with only Obamacare passed and that will bankrupt America)
you blame liberals for everything, because you know never do anything wrong (may be too difficult to interpret what that means)
you want very social program cut except the ones that you are receiving, because those are great (another hard to interpret)
you think Trump, and Cruz are the best thing since Reagan, although they are nothing like Reagan (I don't know anyone that thinks like that, but they are better than Obama and Hillary)
you complain about 47% of people that don't pay taxes forgetting that 8 out of the 10 worse states are Republican (and the worst crime rates are in Dem controlled states)
you complain about free handout, but your states are getting more federal aid than they pay in taxes. (nice spin on the real truth)
you think that social security, Medicare, state income taxes, gasoline taxes, excise taxes, and sales taxes aren't really taxes so you can lump low income people in the 47% category (no one said that but liberals. 47% don't pay INCOME taxes. Clear enough for you?)
you complain about the president's ISIS ,and Syria game plans, but refuse to vote for any law to implement anything to solve these problems (voting to do nothing but talk is not reasonable)
you fall down a say a prayer every time Trump swears in public (another hard to interpret. Perhaps an English refresher?)
you are against abortion, but do not want to pay a cent for a woman, who has a hard time supporting her children (Conservatives donate to charity. Where are the liberals hiding when the plate is passed around? )
you don't think global warming exist, because it is still cold in the winter (you are right, we don't believe in it. The ice caps are getting thicker)
you don't want to accept climate change, because it was called global warming first (the climate changes with the seasons. No one debates that)
you think supply side economics works even though it has always failed, so you never learn from your mistakes (and that's why we are the most successful country in the world, because it fails....OK)
you think that the Hastert rule is in the Constitution (????)
you think that only the Republican Senate leader can use the filibuster to stop legislation (Harry didn't need the filibuster to stop legislation for how many years?)
you think that Obamacare will be repealed the first day a Republican becomes president (we can only pray, and you will too when you get the bill)
you think that Washington doesn't work, so your candidate is going to be someone that makes sure that it won't work (the country is better off when they don't work, as proved by the past seven years or so. )
you want to close the government down every time you don't get your way(Obama says that as he threatens to veto everything when he doesn't get his way, like a petulant child)
you want a strong military, but don't want to put your kids in harms way (nope, that's the liberals that won't let their kids join the miitary)
you want the Hispanic vote, but do everything to make sure that they won't vote Republican (Won't let Illegals vote. There really is a difference, you know?)
you think that deporting 12 million illegal aliens won't cost anything (no one ever said that, but it will cost us less than allowing them to stay)
you think that adding 20,000 border guards won't cost anything (no one said that either, but it won't cost liberals anything because they don't pay taxes)
you think that there is no way of getting around a wall (the racism wall is difficult to get around and it is used quite frequently by liberals)
you think that you are the only party that cares about a safe America (that is proven)
you think that Archie Bunker was a liberal, because he only wanted everybody on a plane to be armed instead of everyone in the country(don't diss' Archie)
you are against every Heritage Foundation plan that Obama puts forward (If Obama endorses it, then there is something wrong with it. He has never been right yet)
you think that Fox News is "fair and balanced". (and liberals think NBC is conservative)
you can't understand why Glenn Beck was fired from Fox News (was he? And do we care?)
you think that any middle of the road Republican is either a RINO or RHINO. (middle to a liberal is Hillary and slightly left is Sanders)
you think that all Muslims should have to register like Jews in NAZI Germany (good idea. Were Jews dangerous?)
you think that the Supreme Court justices should vote based upon party affiliation rather than the law (they don't?)

I just cleaned it up a bit. There seemed to be quite a few gray areas.

[Guest]

My father taught me that there are three things you don't talk about excep with family
POLITICS, RELIGION, MONEY
I still think he was right
We are all family here [emoji12]

[Guest]

To the OP, please don't view the Villagers out see posting on here as the norm. Clearly they are not. At last count, Sumter County was something like 60% republican and independents, and 40% democrats. Which is probably pretty common for retirement communities where older people tend to be more conservative. The bottom line s there is something here politically fore everyone.

[Guest]

Guess I just got the online version of a pat on the head. Sigh. I know it is hard for you conservative, Republican, whte men to believe, but most liberals are not stupid nor naive. We love this country. We do have work ethics. We are no more hypocritical than most average human beings. Many of us really do understand that a coin has two sides. We are tolerant of other people's foibles and beliefs. We may not like it, but we do believe the KKK has as much right to a parade as a peace protest. We do believe everyone should get a fair chance but not a free ride. We do believe that protecting the environment is important. We do believe that people should have the right to enjoy their sexual preference so long as it does not harm another. And so on and so forth. We ain't stupid nor blind.

Most liberals I know are sorely disappointed in Obama and not thrilled with the concept of Hillary as President. But we do think anyone would be better than Trump or Rubio. For now, I'm rooting for Rand Paul and he doesn't stand a snowball's chance. So, Mickey Mouse may end up getting my vote.

No believe we need LIBERALS to suggest how it SHOULD be. Problem is TODAY thanks to PARROTING Obama and Hillary believe that CONSERVATIVES are evil. Yet, they demand that the conservatives must pay for their LIBERAL PROGRAMS.
Simple economics-If, you tax something you will have less of it. If, you subsidize something you will have more of it.
You report, most liberals are sorely disappointed with Obama. YOU DO NOT MENTION THAT IT IS THE LIBERALS THAT PUT HIM IN OFFICE. Sadly the result of Obama is that this country is more divided then ever before in my lifetime and we are now 19 TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT. Since, you are posting here I assume you are receiving social security or soon to. We paid for this so it is not WELFARE. Our government keeps telling us our major creditors are china and japan. I was shocked to discover that first of all Japan owns slightly more of our debt than China does but, more important together they only hold about 20% of our national debt. SOCIAL SECURITY OWNS 42% OF THE NATIONAL DEBT.

[Guest]

I was shocked to discover that first of all Japan owns slightly more of our debt than China does but, more important together they only hold about 20% of our national debt. SOCIAL SECURITY OWNS 42% OF THE NATIONAL DEBT.

Remedial math-----SS trust fund is 2.7 trillion, national debt close to 19 trillion. Try 14% instead. But, the majority of the debt is owned by American citizens by way of 401Ks and mutual funds, as well as bank and insurance company holdings.

[Guest]

No believe we need LIBERALS to suggest how it SHOULD be. Problem is TODAY thanks to PARROTING Obama and Hillary believe that CONSERVATIVES are evil. Yet, they demand that the conservatives must pay for their LIBERAL PROGRAMS.
Simple economics-If, you tax something you will have less of it. If, you subsidize something you will have more of it.
You report, most liberals are sorely disappointed with Obama. YOU DO NOT MENTION THAT IT IS THE LIBERALS THAT PUT HIM IN OFFICE. Sadly the result of Obama is that this country is more divided then ever before in my lifetime and we are now 19 TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT. Since, you are posting here I assume you are receiving social security or soon to. We paid for this so it is not WELFARE. Our government keeps telling us our major creditors are china and japan. I was shocked to discover that first of all Japan owns slightly more of our debt than China does but, more important together they only hold about 20% of our national debt. SOCIAL SECURITY OWNS 42% OF THE NATIONAL DEBT.

Mccaine said we have a lot of hard work to do BUT AMERICANS ARE UP TO THE TASK.

The LIBERALS instead of a mature vote voted for OBAMA the candyman can.
Now we have an even harder problem to deal with. THANKS TO OBAMA we do not even have AMERICANS working on a UNITED INTEREST AND PROBLEM,we have a divided population and we have double the NATIONAL DEBT. OBAMA hitched his wagon to divisiveness and RACISM-AMERICAN WEAKNESS. The sad facts Black vote was 98% for Obama (13% of the population) Jewish vote was 86% for Obama (5% of the population) had the rest of the population voted along the same racially motivated lines Obama would have gotten roughly 28% of the vote-the worst defeat in American History. If, you wonder, not that it matters, I AM PROUDLY ONE OF THE 18% OF JEWS THAT DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA. For all you LIBERALS blind to the fact that you have skillfully been hypnotized to the democratic BS. I suggest you open your mind and see that for the labeled as racist REPUBLICANS skin color was not at all an issue with Carson. In the debate, the reporter tried to bait Carson into the OBAMA LIBERAL RACISM, his reply was I AM A SURGEON. How much more politely could he address this question. For those who did not understand what he said YOU ARE A DEMOCRATIC BRAINWASHED FOOL.

[Guest]

Mccaine said we have a lot of hard work to do BUT AMERICANS ARE UP TO THE TASK.

The LIBERALS instead of a mature vote voted for OBAMA the candyman can.
Now we have an even harder problem to deal with. THANKS TO OBAMA we do not even have AMERICANS working on a UNITED INTEREST AND PROBLEM,we have a divided population and we have double the NATIONAL DEBT. OBAMA hitched his wagon to divisiveness and RACISM-AMERICAN WEAKNESS. The sad facts Black vote was 98% for Obama (13% of the population) Jewish vote was 86% for Obama (5% of the population) had the rest of the population voted along the same racially motivated lines Obama would have gotten roughly 28% of the vote-the worst defeat in American History. If, you wonder, not that it matters, I AM PROUDLY ONE OF THE 18% OF JEWS THAT DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA. For all you LIBERALS blind to the fact that you have skillfully been hypnotized to the democratic BS. I suggest you open your mind and see that for the labeled as racist REPUBLICANS skin color was not at all an issue with Carson. In the debate, the reporter tried to bait Carson into the OBAMA LIBERAL RACISM, his reply was I AM A SURGEON. How much more politely could he address this question. For those who did not understand what he said YOU ARE A DEMOCRATIC BRAINWASHED FOOL.

DO YOU ALWAYS NEED TO YELL TO MAKE A POINT? DO YOU? DO YOU?

Bring out the Ben Carson in you.

[Guest]

DO YOU ALWAYS NEED TO YELL TO MAKE A POINT? DO YOU? DO YOU?

Bring out the Ben Carson in you.

Now Chi, why do you even bother to make your snide comments? You do not give liberals a good Rep. You have yet to make an informative comment, just snide retorts to someone else's comment. You have almost lowered yourself to the juvenile standards of our pet liberal troll. Some on here probably give you the benefit of doubt, as I do, because you seem to be mostly civil with your simple one liners.

[Guest]

what we all know is that whther there is a D or an R besides one's name only matters on forums like this or at one of the party pep rallys.

Other than that nobody....NOBODY.....needs to know who or what flavor you are or what the flavor of the neighborhhood/village/town or city.

On the check list real or mentally noted how many have a to do that suggests find out what political party the people/village/town/city/newspaper/etc....is or belong to....NONE!!!!!

I defy anybody to know TV or any other town/city/etc political leaning by associating with the people in it.

It is mostly a need for the person who has to use religion or race or politics to either identify themselves or ser themselves apart from everybody else.

Most people are who you see is what you get.......but as we all know the 2-5% radicals/die hards/blow hards/antagonists/those who wish they had a better life hell raisers....get all the attention.

The majority of us enjoy life and each other.

[Guest]

Now Chi, why do you even bother to make your snide comments? You do not give liberals a good Rep. You have yet to make an informative comment, just snide retorts to someone else's comment. You have almost lowered yourself to the juvenile standards of our pet liberal troll. Some on here probably give you the benefit of doubt, as I do, because you seem to be mostly civil with your simple one liners.


Well MD, sometimes a little office decorum would be nice. Too bad you don't think someone yelling calling people Democratic brainwashed fools is a little beyond snide. But since you don't here is a classic insult yelling clip featuring an all star cast:

https://youtu.be/OdwGcC9jMIw

[Guest]

Well MD, sometimes a little office decorum would be nice. Too bad you don't think someone yelling calling people Democratic brainwashed fools is a little beyond snide. But since you don't here is a classic insult yelling clip featuring an all star cast:

https://youtu.be/OdwGcC9jMIw

Still can't contribute? I don't consider you a troll, but you do enjoy agitating without contributing, like a troll. At least you aren't nasty like the pet liberal.

[Guest]

Dear Guest: I could logically counterpoint on every single statement you made but it would be much too long. So let me say with all due respect your thinking here is a prime example of the shallow, bias and delusional thinking conducted by so many progressives.

For example your statement referring to the repeal of Obamacare flys in the face of reason when by every measure, measures generated by different people many of whom have no axe to grind explain the disastrous affect this law has had on our economy.

Frankly I tired of trying to explain the facts of life to present day progressives ,its like talking to a drunk . Clearly the Democratic Party has been hijacked by radicals whose policies continue to sink this nation into mediocrity and when logical intelligent people try to explain such folly progressives respond with accusations of "the three golden rules of criticize, condemn and complain"from the Party of No. "Disingenuous", as you progressive are fond of saying, don't you think.

And by the way I am as inclined to disagree with many Republicans who place self interests ahead of national interest and that speaker who resigned singing a happy tune was one of them. And its beginning to look like the speaker with the newly grown beard is heading in the same direction with his agreement to fund Planned Parenthood.

Its no wonder Trump is trumping them all....and I am not fond of Trump

Personal Best Regards:

This response is perfect to explain exactly what the majorities of the posters here are. Blind to all foolish nonsense posted by their kind. No one had any problem at all the two long lists criticizing everything liberals are suppose to be, but the second someone responds in kind what conservatives are that list is too long. I can't respond to your list because "it's too hard, and long".

When I did respond putting up an article that contradicted some of the items in Mr. List Maker, and his evil twin posts, his evil twin told me my response was lame. Then, they got what they asked for, and list long as theirs. So, what is the problem? Maybe it is about time you start getting as good as you give out.

By the way, why did you take that list seriously? Are people here so thinned skinned that they can't see backhanded humor directed at them? What is worse is all the foolish lists directed at anyone that doesn't walk lock step with them are taken as gospel. Maybe you should control your own before attacking someone that doesn't agree with you 100% of the time. Only then should someone take you seriously.

[Guest]

This response is perfect to explain exactly what the majorities of the posters here are. Blind to all foolish nonsense posted by their kind. No one had any problem at all the two long lists criticizing everything liberals are suppose to be, but the second someone responds in kind what conservatives are that list is too long. I can't respond to your list because "it's too hard, and long".

When I did respond putting up an article that contradicted some of the items in Mr. List Maker, and his evil twin posts, his evil twin told me my response was lame. Then, they got what they asked for, and list long as theirs. So, what is the problem? Maybe it is about time you start getting as good as you give out.

By the way, why did you take that list seriously? Are people here so thinned skinned that they can't see backhanded humor directed at them? What is worse is all the foolish lists directed at anyone that doesn't walk lock step with them are taken as gospel. Maybe you should control your own before attacking someone that doesn't agree with you 100% of the time. Only then should someone take you seriously.

Please stop whining. It is soooo unbecoming. I can understand how you can be humiliated with the limited selection of pitiful candidates running for your party this time. But, adult up and try to maintain a confident air as Hillary sells your country down the river. Remember, you can always vote Republican this time around, and shore you image back up.

[Guest]

I am a New Yorker and am looking for a community that is fun, positive and where I can meet new friends. Everyone raves about The Villages up here. Can you tell me if there is racial and political diversity? I known my own values and who I am going to vote for and I don't like hearing a lot of "ranting" about politics. That is what is going on a lot where I live and I would love to get away from it. Any feedback would be welcome. Thanks!

If the only impression of the Villages I had was from reading the political forum, I wouldn't settle within 100 miles of the place. I strongly recommend you take advantage of the lifestyle preview program and check out The Villages for yourself. You will see that the vast majority of villagers have better things to do than talk politics. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I have overheard others having political conversations in The Villages.

If you're looking for well thought out, intelligent discourse addressing the issues confronting the country, you will not find it here. Some the typical threads that demonstrate an intelligent, nuanced command of the issues include: "republicans are mean spirited", "Why are democrats so foolish?", or "republican hypocrites".

Sadly, the political forum is made up of a large number of baiters who are masters at it. They do it for their own pleasure, indeed you could go blind trying to make sense of it all.

[Guest]

I am a New Yorker and am looking for a community that is fun, positive and where I can meet new friends. Everyone raves about The Villages up here. Can you tell me if there is racial and political diversity? I known my own values and who I am going to vote for and I don't like hearing a lot of "ranting" about politics. That is what is going on a lot where I live and I would love to get away from it. Any feedback would be welcome. Thanks!


By now you have seen a lot of diverse opinions expressed by "Guest." Actually, probably more than a handful of Guest(s).

The bottom line to me is that the political forum is a place where posters can hide behind the facade of anonymity. (Note that I have not hidden my name. It is not guest.)

Someone posted a comment about a father saying one should not discuss politics, religion, or taxes, sex, etc in polite company. Just realize that Guest doesn't necessarily buy that philosophy. So that being the case, I would say 10-25 actors out of 120,000 is not an intolerable percentage. Besides, some of the comments are worthy of good stand-up comedy.

Guest does not run around the squares screaming his/her views. Guest is not likely to suddenly jump on a soap box in Publix. It would be highly unlikely for a Guest flash mob to appear at The Sharon.

All in all, we are a community of caring, intelligent, inquisitive, and friendly People. You'll love it here, believe me. And while I'm not a Guest, I'll defend their right to be Guests, especially when I disagree. I even have friends that are Guest(s).

C'mon down.

[Guest]

Please stop whining. It is soooo unbecoming. I can understand how you can be humiliated with the limited selection of pitiful candidates running for your party this time. But, adult up and try to maintain a confident air as Hillary sells your country down the river. Remember, you can always vote Republican this time around, and shore you image back up.

Stop whining. Now, that is funny. The second someone swings back at a Republican the alligator tears flow. Wake up. That is what Personal Best Regards did cried a river.

My party, the Democrats. You know this how? I am an independent that will vote for John Kasich, if he still is in the hunt. If not, I will vote for Donald Duck in the general election. In MY country, Mr. Duck is head and wings above everyone else running.

[Guest]

Stop whining. Now, that is funny. The second someone swings back at a Republican the alligator tears flow. Wake up. That is what Personal Best Regards did cried a river.

My party, the Democrats. You know this how? I am an independent that will vote for John Kasich, if he still is in the hunt. If not, I will vote for Donald Duck in the general election. In MY country, Mr. Duck is head and wings above everyone else running.

Yes, yes, yes, you have insisted that you are Independent and going to vote for Kasich many times. Are you trying to convince yourself, or are you trying to fool us? I doubt anyone is buying it, but really? Really? Do you think that it is anyone else's business who you vote for? Do you think anyone cares? Kasich is out of the running, or will be. Sorry about that. You try to convince that you are Independent for what reason? There is NO Independent party. There is only Democrat or Republican. You can't even vote in the primaries in most states as an Independent. But, you know that. You are just the forum pet troll that likes to bait and get attention. Well, you got your five minutes of attention. Bye now.

[Guest]

If the only impression of the Villages I had was from reading the political forum, I wouldn't settle within 100 miles of the place. I strongly recommend you take advantage of the lifestyle preview program and check out The Villages for yourself. You will see that the vast majority of villagers have better things to do than talk politics. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I have overheard others having political conversations in The Villages.

If you're looking for well thought out, intelligent discourse addressing the issues confronting the country, you will not find it here. Some the typical threads that demonstrate an intelligent, nuanced command of the issues include: "republicans are mean spirited", "Why are democrats so foolish?", or "republican hypocrites".

Sadly, the political forum is made up of a large number of baiters who are masters at it. They do it for their own pleasure, indeed you could go blind trying to make sense of it all.

Ah-hah....so these are the master baiters!

[Guest]

Yes, yes, yes, you have insisted that you are Independent and going to vote for Kasich many times. Are you trying to convince yourself, or are you trying to fool us? I doubt anyone is buying it, but really? Really? Do you think that it is anyone else's business who you vote for? Do you think anyone cares? Kasich is out of the running, or will be. Sorry about that. You try to convince that you are Independent for what reason? There is NO Independent party. There is only Democrat or Republican. You can't even vote in the primaries in most states as an Independent. But, you know that. You are just the forum pet troll that likes to bait and get attention. Well, you got your five minutes of attention. Bye now.


Why do the people here keep trying to stick the "liberal" tag on anyone that doesn't agree with them 100% of the time? Are they trying to fool themselves into believing there are only two ways of thinking far right or far left? Since when (2009) is a Republican only far right, and a Democrat far left? Strange as it seems, there are clear thinking people that don't think that their way is the only way. I want to get attention from the likes of the people here. Why? Only people like you need attention by degrading someone else, but keep it up. It fits you well.

[Guest]

Why do the people here keep trying to stick the "liberal" tag on anyone that doesn't agree with them 100% of the time? Are they trying to fool themselves into believing there are only two ways of thinking far right or far left? Since when (2009) is a Republican only far right, and a Democrat far left? Strange as it seems, there are clear thinking people that don't think that their way is the only way. I want to get attention from the likes of the people here. Why? Only people like you need attention by degrading someone else, but keep it up. It fits you well.

That poster is so obvious. Nothing more than a troll. If you don't get it, or you ARE that person then a label of liberal is true. Liberals come on this forum TOTV and bait, then attempt to gain sympathy. Sorry, but that is a very old tactic that might work up North, where that liberal sits in his mom's basement, but the seniors in TV don't buy his nonsense. If you are not that same poster, then you are naive to buy his nasty little juvenile comments.

And as far as labeling someone a liberal, perhaps you should check out the definition of liberal. Calling him a liberal instead of a juvenile troll is being kind and giving him the benefit of doubt.