Pool Restrooms Used by Contractors?

[N44125]

Noticed in the 'other' newspaper that 2 non-villagers used the bathrooms at Colony Neighborhood Pool and stole money, credit cards, etc. I noticed at our neighborhood pool that many contractors (lawn care, trash removal, etc.) use the bathrooms. Is that allowed? But then I thought about the alternative, i.e., where would they go? Just curious.....

[Sandtrap328]

I have seen service workers such as lawn crews, garbage collectors, etc use the golf course restrooms at the 7th hole on Fox Run many times. To me, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Where else would you expect them to go for a bathroom need?

How would money or credit cards be stolen from bathrooms? Do some people leave wallets on the counter when using a stall? Mighty foolish if they do!

[RickeyD]

The victims, let's prosecute...yes

[redwitch]

Think the stolen items were on benches or shelves while folks took showers and got dressed. Kinda dumb, to me. To blame the lawn crews, etc. is just wrong IMO. Anyone could have gone in and stolen the items from rec staff to Villagers and their guests to workers to thieves who prey on this type of behaivor to workers.

And, yes, workers are allowed to use the pool, rec and golf course restrooms. Certainly beats the alternatives.

[MikeV]

The Colony Neighborhood Pool does not have showers except for the one to use before entering the pool. In three years I have never seen anyone use it. The rest room is in the corner and near some tables. I would guess if this really happened the items were left on said tables. I highly doubt that anyone would leave valuables just laying out on tables near a rest room.

[rubicon]

The Colony Neighborhood Pool does not have showers except for the one to use before entering the pool. In three years I have never seen anyone use it. The rest room is in the corner and near some tables. I would guess if this really happened the items were left on said tables. I highly doubt that anyone would leave valuables just laying out on tables near a rest room.

Hi MikeV: Don't doubt> I have found more than once where a shopper has left bagged groceries in their shopping cart and driven off. Or left their keys in the postal box often times with car keys to boot. I thought how do you get home if you left your car keys in your postal box. answer you had two sets of keys and left the car running using the second to get mail.

Now we have someone who leaves his keys in the postal box and may well go to the car and find it stolen .

So here in The villages and as they say "expect the unexpected"

Buono Natale

[theorem painter]

The Colony Neighborhood Pool does not have showers except for the one to use before entering the pool. In three years I have never seen anyone use it. The rest room is in the corner and near some tables. I would guess if this really happened the items were left on said tables. I highly doubt that anyone would leave valuables just laying out on tables near a rest room.

According to the "other newspaper" the wallet was in a pair of shorts that were left in the changing room.

[RickeyD]

Noticed in the 'other' newspaper that 2 non-villagers used the bathrooms at Colony Neighborhood Pool and stole money, credit cards, etc. I noticed at our neighborhood pool that many contractors (lawn care, trash removal, etc.) use the bathrooms. Is that allowed? But then I thought about the alternative, i.e., where would they go? Just curious.....


Where does anyone that works in the field go ? Typically behind a dumpster, behind a tree, an empty gatoraid bottle or in the case of a more substantial need, a 5 gallon pail lined with a plastic bag. The devil is surely in the details.

[Bogie Shooter]

According to the "other newspaper" the wallet was in a pair of shorts that were left in the changing room.

And that was dumb!

[Bogie Shooter]

Noticed in the 'other' newspaper that 2 non-villagers used the bathrooms at Colony Neighborhood Pool and stole money, credit cards, etc. I noticed at our neighborhood pool that many contractors (lawn care, trash removal, etc.) use the bathrooms. Is that allowed? But then I thought about the alternative, i.e., where would they go? Just curious.....

These perps where not the folks you mention.

[Bonny]

Noticed in the 'other' newspaper that 2 non-villagers used the bathrooms at Colony Neighborhood Pool and stole money, credit cards, etc. I noticed at our neighborhood pool that many contractors (lawn care, trash removal, etc.) use the bathrooms. Is that allowed? But then I thought about the alternative, i.e., where would they go? Just curious.....

Who would leave their shorts in a changing room with their wallet in it. DUH !!
I would hate to see contractors going behind the bushes. :22yikes:

[bagboy]

These two thieves were just that...thieves. Both have prior convictions for theft and who knows what else. This probably isn't the first time they have entered restrooms near pools knowing there may be valuables left unattended while people are swimming. And then to run right over to local merchants and use the stolen credit cards so quickly just shows how disgustingly savvy they are in being criminals.

[bagboy]

Noticed in the 'other' newspaper that 2 non-villagers used the bathrooms at Colony Neighborhood Pool and stole money, credit cards, etc. I noticed at our neighborhood pool that many contractors (lawn care, trash removal, etc.) use the bathrooms. Is that allowed? But then I thought about the alternative, i.e., where would they go? Just curious.....

They were not contractors or workers. They are thieves !!!

[Bogie Shooter]

A couple has been arrested after they were connected to the theft of a pair of shorts from the men’s changing room at the swimming pool at Colony Cottage Recreation Center.

The shorts were taken Dec. 4 and contained a Villager’s wallet which held $100 cash, his Florida driver’s license, an Outback Steakhouse gift card, his Villages ID card, and three credit cards.

The credit cards were later used at three local businesses – the nearby Walgreens, Publix and Shell gas station, all on Colony Boulevard.

Items purchased included Vodka, beer, cigarettes, razors and prepaid credit cards.

Brian Mark Krajewski
Brian Mark Krajewski

Kelly Ann Hendrix
Kelly Ann Hendrix

Video surveillance and other clues led Sumter County Sheriff’s Office detectives to 40-year-old Brian Mark Krajewski and 51-year-old Kelly Lynn Hendrix. They were arrested on Tuesday on charges including larceny and fraud.

Both told detectives they had stopped by Colony Cottage Recreation Center to use the restroom.

Hendrix was out on bond at the time the shorts were stolen. She had been accused of stealing from a 79-year-old Villager. Hendrix was booked at the Sumter County Detention Center on $20,000 bond.

Krajewski has prior theft convictions in Lake and Osceola counties. He posted $6,000 bond and has been released.

[RickeyD]

A couple has been arrested after they were connected to the theft of a pair of shorts from the men’s changing room at the swimming pool at Colony Cottage Recreation Center.



The shorts were taken Dec. 4 and contained a Villager’s wallet which held $100 cash, his Florida driver’s license, an Outback Steakhouse gift card, his Villages ID card, and three credit cards.



The credit cards were later used at three local businesses – the nearby Walgreens, Publix and Shell gas station, all on Colony Boulevard.



Items purchased included Vodka, beer, cigarettes, razors and prepaid credit cards.



Brian Mark Krajewski

Brian Mark Krajewski



Kelly Ann Hendrix

Kelly Ann Hendrix



Video surveillance and other clues led Sumter County Sheriff’s Office detectives to 40-year-old Brian Mark Krajewski and 51-year-old Kelly Lynn Hendrix. They were arrested on Tuesday on charges including larceny and fraud.



Both told detectives they had stopped by Colony Cottage Recreation Center to use the restroom.



Hendrix was out on bond at the time the shorts were stolen. She had been accused of stealing from a 79-year-old Villager. Hendrix was booked at the Sumter County Detention Center on $20,000 bond.



Krajewski has prior theft convictions in Lake and Osceola counties. He posted $6,000 bond and has been released.


Where did this POS get $6,000 ?

[Bonny]

I just read the news on it. Kelly has been around a long time. She used to work in the Villages. Lots of trouble !!

[RickeyD]

I just read the news on it. Kelly has been around a long time. She used to work in the Villages. Lots of trouble !!


Rats stick around if the feeding is good.

[Bonny]

Where did this POS get $6,000 ?
Probably had to pay 10 %

[RickeyD]

Probably had to pay 10 %


Shows ya what I know about the criminal justice system.

[Happinow]

Sorry, but I believe we should have to use our ID card to enter all facilities....the pool, the Rec centers, the pickleball courts. We pay for those facilities. They are not open to the public, yet any of the public can access them. Anyone can go into a Rec center and use the bathrooms. These are not public facilities. If we had to use our ID cards this would eliminate our facilities being used by those who haven't paid for them. We all came from places that did not have pools, Rec centers and the abundance of facilities that The Villages has. And, we all had contractors working in our towns and cities. They found places to potty....usually gas stations or quick marts. Why should it be different here?

[mikemalloy]

This question came up when we were attending the Villages Academy. The answer was that the pool bathrooms were "public" and therefore available for everyone. (I should have asked "if that's true, are they maintained by tax money or Villager fees? But I didn't.)

[Kannon451]

The rush by some to attack the victim as less than smart is to be expected here. The only thing he Is guilty of is thinking TV is a safe place. As TV grows in size and population, so will the number of low life's It attracts looking to take advantage of it's residents and facilities.

[Sandtrap328]

True, the two thieves should be sent to a hard time jail for a long stretch.

However, you just have to think that ANYONE in The Villages would know - from their past life experiences - that you NEVER leave your wallet with money and credit cards out of your sight. :shrug:

[BobnBev]

Can we get pictures of the perps?

[Rickg]

The collier neighborhood pool restrooms are used very heavily by contractors. Unfortunately the bathrooms are out of service more than they should be because of the messes left behind. I don't know what the answer is but it's discouraging that the bathrooms are left with toilets overflowing etc. . Contractors working outside of the villages find places to go to the bathroom.

[Bogie Shooter]

Can we get pictures of the perps?

Pics on the on line news site.

[Villageswimmer]

The collier neighborhood pool restrooms are used very heavily by contractors. Unfortunately the bathrooms are out of service more than they should be because of the messes left behind. I don't know what the answer is but it's discouraging that the bathrooms are left with toilets overflowing etc. . Contractors working outside of the villages find places to go to the bathroom.

I've never seen a problem at our pool, but my husband says the contractors leave the men's restroom a filthy mess consistently.

[Bonny]

I've never seen a problem at our pool, but my husband says the contractors leave the men's restroom a filthy mess consistently.
Just curious. Does hubby go in before and after the contractors to see if they are the ones making a mess ?

[tomwed]

Just curious. Does hubby go in before and after the contractors to see if they are the ones making a mess ?
I was thinking that too. Some of these opinions are pretty funny to read. How many villagers were contractors or worked for contractors at one time or another? Not to mention the rest of their family, friends and neighbors that were just insulted.

[NotGolfer]

I don't see this as an issue! Where would you have the workers "go"?? I'm thankful for the grounds-keepers and others who make this a beautiful place to live in. My thoughts go to "let's try to pay things forward and not be negative, be kind and not impatient and think we're above others"!!

[spring_chicken]

I don't see this as an issue! Where would you have the workers "go"?? I'm thankful for the grounds-keepers and others who make this a beautiful place to live in. My thoughts go to "let's try to pay things forward and not be negative, be kind and not impatient and think we're above others"!!

The same place they "go" all over the country outside The Villages?

[golfing eagles]

I don't see this as an issue! Where would you have the workers "go"?? I'm thankful for the grounds-keepers and others who make this a beautiful place to live in. My thoughts go to "let's try to pay things forward and not be negative, be kind and not impatient and think we're above others"!!

I agree with one caveat: It doesn't matter (or shouldn't) whether you are a neurosurgeon of Ben Carson's ability or the guy who like Ed Norton cleans out the sewers----there is no reason to be a pig and leave a filthy mess. This not only goes for "contractors" but also residents. Based on observing golf course behavior such as not repairing ballmarks, not filling divots, and not raking traps---the "leave it for someone else to do" attitude, it would not be beyond belief that some of the "filthy mess" is created by our own Villagers. And if that is true, what better scapegoat than "the contractors". I made a simple rule in our office---"You plug it, you plunge it", and "Your mother is not her to clean up after you"

[bagboy]

I agree with one caveat: It doesn't matter (or shouldn't) whether you are a neurosurgeon of Ben Carson's ability or the guy who like Ed Norton cleans out the sewers----there is no reason to be a pig and leave a filthy mess. This not only goes for "contractors" but also residents. Based on observing golf course behavior such as not repairing ballmarks, not filling divots, and not raking traps---the "leave it for someone else to do" attitude, it would not be beyond belief that some of the "filthy mess" is created by our own Villagers. And if that is true, what better scapegoat than "the contractors". I made a simple rule in our office---"You plug it, you plunge it", and "Your mother is not her to clean up after you"

I agree totally.

[goodtimesintv]

Sorry, but I believe we should have to use our ID card to enter all facilities....the pool, the Rec centers, the pickleball courts. We pay for those facilities. They are not open to the public, yet any of the public can access them. Anyone can go into a Rec center and use the bathrooms. These are not public facilities. If we had to use our ID cards this would eliminate our facilities being used by those who haven't paid for them. We all came from places that did not have pools, Rec centers and the abundance of facilities that The Villages has. And, we all had contractors working in our towns and cities. They found places to potty....usually gas stations or quick marts. Why should it be different here?

Exactly.

Wherever we lived before, did all the do-gooders on here tell landscape, building, and other contractors to just walk in and use bathrooms at the member-owned pool & tennis club nearby? Never!!

[Sandtrap328]

Personally, I do not mind one bit if maintenance workers use the pool or golf course bathrooms - but like anyone be clean about it.

I, however, think that ID card check should be a MUST for someone to enter the pool area to sun and swim. There are lots of non-residents from the surrounding communities who regularly use the pools. They know the random pool checkers will not check IDs of people in the water so they hop in when a check is being started.

[tomwed]

"Your mother is not her to clean up after you"
That's the problem; poor upbringing.

[Jimigolf]

I agree with one caveat: It doesn't matter (or shouldn't) whether you are a neurosurgeon of Ben Carson's ability or the guy who like Ed Norton cleans out the sewers----there is no reason to be a pig and leave a filthy mess. This not only goes for "contractors" but also residents. Based on observing golf course behavior such as not repairing ballmarks, not filling divots, and not raking traps---the "leave it for someone else to do" attitude, it would not be beyond belief that some of the "filthy mess" is created by our own Villagers. And if that is true, what better scapegoat than "the contractors". I made a simple rule in our office---"You plug it, you plunge it", and "Your mother is not her to clean up after you"

Not sure I have a clue about Ben Carson's surgical ability but otherwise agree. When's the last time you stepped up to a Urinal in either A Country Club or a Villages Restaurant and didn't have to dodge the leftover remnants of previous visitors. My guess is that contractors have better aim and p--s in the Urinals and not in front or to the side of them. Leave the contractors alone and stop criticizing them. Oh, unless you are Donald Trump of course.

[RickeyD]

I was thinking that too. Some of these opinions are pretty funny to read. How many villagers were contractors or worked for contractors at one time or another? Not to mention the rest of their family, friends and neighbors that were just insulted.


I'm a contractor, not insulted. [emoji849] I think it's funny, knowing I made more money than some guy who worked behind a desk his whole life.

[tomwed]

I'm a contractor, not insulted. [emoji849] I think it's funny, knowing I made more money than some guy who worked behind a desk his whole life.
That is funny.
My father was an electrical contractor. I never asked him if he was told not to use certain bathrooms because he's only a contractor and might not know how to not leave a mess.
How about police officers? Can they use our bathrooms?

[JoMar]

Exactly.

Wherever we lived before, did all the do-gooders on here tell landscape, building, and other contractors to just walk in and use bathrooms at the member-owned pool & tennis club nearby? Never!!

You will find that many things here are done differently then where we lived before.....and that's not necessarily a bad thing.

[Greg Nelson]

two coming, two going, two ****ting, and two mowing

[tomwed]

two coming, two going, two ****ting, and two mowing
Dr. Seuss?

[kcrazorbackfan]

The rush by some to attack the victim as less than smart is to be expected here. The only thing he Is guilty of is thinking TV is a safe place. As TV grows in size and population, so will the number of low life's It attracts looking to take advantage of it's residents and facilities.

.....and some people wonder why I rail all the time about being vigilant and aware of their surroundings; trash like that are the reason I legally carry a weapon. I'm not against any human being using our "public restrooms"; I'm against them taking advantage of senior citizens.

[Sandtrap328]

.....and some people wonder why I rail all the time about being vigilant and aware of their surroundings; trash like that are the reason I legally carry a weapon. I'm not against any human being using our "public restrooms"; I'm against them taking advantage of senior citizens.

Absolutely right. However, leaving your wallet with cash and credit cards in your shorts in the men's room while swimming is NOT being vigilant and aware of your surroundings, is it?

If you saw the theft in progress, it certainly would be a good thing to hold a gun on the thief while the police were called.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Absolutely right. However, leaving your wallet with cash and credit cards in your shorts in the men's room while swimming is NOT being vigilant and aware of your surroundings, is it?

Being vigilant, it's not. Leaving your wallet with cash and credit cards laying around is not having common sense.

If you saw the theft in progress, it certainly would be a good thing to hold a gun on the thief while the police were called.

I have and I have.

[Barefoot]

I don't see this as an issue! Where would you have the workers "go"?? I'm thankful for the grounds-keepers and others who make this a beautiful place to live in. My thoughts go to "let's try to pay things forward and not be negative, be kind and not impatient and think we're above others"!!:agree:

[tomwed]

Absolutely right. However, leaving your wallet with cash and credit cards in your shorts in the men's room while swimming is NOT being vigilant and aware of your surroundings, is it?

If you saw the theft in progress, it certainly would be a good thing to hold a gun on the thief while the police were called.
........

[goodtimesintv]

It's not so much about using a restroom as it is about criminal activity like this:

This is not the first time this or worse has happened, I am sure.


Man accused of exposing himself in women’s restroom at Laurel Manor pool

November 19, 2015

".....Lorenzo Adan Ramirez of Tavares was picked up Tuesday on a pair of Sumter County warrants charging him with voyeurism.

He allegedly exposed himself to a woman on Monday.

He told law enforcement that he works for a lawn service company and an insect had gotten inside his clothing. He said he entered the women’s restroom by mistake.

A second incident took place Friday, also in the women’s restroom at the Laurel Manor pool.

On Jan. 23, 2012, Ramirez was arrested on a charge of video voyeurism in Lake County. He was sentenced to one year’s probation.

Ramirez was booked at the Lake County Jail and later released after posting $2,000 bond."

(In the online paper. 11/19/2015)

http://www.**************.com/man-accused-of-exposing-himself-in-womens-restroom-at-laurel-manor-pool/

[Greg Nelson]

One problem I can see is the lack of the means to keep valuables safe in the locker rooms. I usually lock up my wallet in my golf cart (not very safe) after I've been carded and shown a picture ID. There is no place to leave them inside the locker rooms..

[Chatbrat]

If I don't need my wallet or other sensitive items I don't carry them. Going to the pool or gym all I carry is my ID-

Too bad, the villages does use the palm print ID system that MVP uses-no need to carry anything while in the club.

[Sandtrap328]

One problem I can see is the lack of the means to keep valuables safe in the locker rooms. I usually lock up my wallet in my golf cart (not very safe) after I've been carded and shown a picture ID. There is no place to leave them inside the locker rooms..

Even if the man had kept his wallet next to him at his chair wrapped in a towel, it would have been safe from a prowler in the bathroom. I think that a lawn maintenance worker on the pool deck looking for wallets through towels next to chairs might just raise suspicions - even in The Villages.

Yes, we should all be sorry that the victim lost money but he does bear a good portion of the responsibility. The two thieves should both be locked up for a long time in a hard time jail.

[PennBF]

It's a shame someone lost something because they didn't act responsibility to protect the item. Always told anyone visiting or working in New York City to remember 3 rules: If you see something going down ignore it, if a street does not look safe it probably isn't and avoid it and don't look at people in the eye as it might be viewed as threatening. In this case if you think leaving something in the restroom, shower room, etc and believe it may be at risk it probably is and therefore don't do it. All of this is just "common sense".:duck:

[Pietrina1]

Ciao Rubicon, since Natale is masculine, it is Buon, not Buono.
Buon Natale a te e un Felice Anno Nuovo.

[goodtimesintv]

I would never leave a wallet or my clothing in a pool locker-restroom in TV, or anywhere! I put my belongings in a swim bag that I take to the poolside chairs/tables where I can see if somebody would come around rifling thru people's belongings.

Chatbrat was right about using palm/fingerprint readers like MVP does. So that sex offenders, thieves and perverts are not in the bathrooms and showers where people are undressed, wet, shoeless and beyond reach of their phone.

I'm amazed that people refuse to see this as the real problem, not people who are asking for trouble by leaving their wallet in a restroom/shower area where strangers come and go.

The doors should have palm/fingerprint readers for residents and TV/DistrictGov employees. Known, roaming sex offenders and assailants the courts will not lock up should be kept OUT. See Post #48.