Rev. Graham Leaving GOP

[Guest]

Rev. Franklin Graham has said he is leaving the Republican Party over the Budget approved by Republicans that included funding for Planned Parenthood.

Republican leaders are very concerned that other evangelical ministers will do the same thing and take their evangelical flocks with them and stay home on Election Day.

Cruz is counting on evangelical white Christians to vote for him.

[Guest]

I have been a registered Republican since 1968 and I support Graham's actions. Today's politicians seem to run under the party logo they believe will get them elected but once elected they act in way and manner for their self interests and ensuring they are reelected.

Its why GOP has a disdain for the Tea party, for Trump. Carson, Forina, etc
But mostly its why the majority of voters are so frustrated

Had GOP taken a firm stand against Planned Parenthood funding perhaps they may not have stopped the funding bit they would have at least exposed the Planned Parenthood lie.

So voters ask well who fights for the moral imperative, traditional America, exceptional America, free America?

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[Guest]

Typical of republican radicals, if you don't play the game exactly as I want I'll take my ball and go home.

[Guest]

The Republicans voted Paul Ryan in as the Speaker. He wisely did not believe that fighting the Planned Parenthood funding was important enough to close down the Federal government. The Republican party would have been seen as not willing to compromise and of obstructing the government. The times the Republicans shut down the government before did absolutely more harm than good to the Republicans.

Now, the question remains, will Franklin Graham's action take white Christian evangelican voters on his path and not vote for the GOP nominee?

[Guest]

Planned parenthood doesn't even make the top ten of problems we have in this country, with all due respect to the Reverend. This dialog just keeps us from addressing the real issues that are going to cause us a little pain. Like paying for war we are promoting.

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It's like running away from home with no place to go. He'll be back.

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It's like running away from home with no place to go. He'll be back.

:agree:.....I must be ill.

[Guest]

Rev. Franklin Graham has said he is leaving the Republican Party over the Budget approved by Republicans that included funding for Planned Parenthood.

Republican leaders are very concerned that other evangelical ministers will do the same thing and take their evangelical flocks with them and stay home on Election Day.

Cruz is counting on evangelical white Christians to vote for him.

Nice bait job. You are getting somewhat better at it, or is this just a quirk?

Gotta do the race thing? Are you that messed up?

[Guest]

Nice bait job. You are getting somewhat better at it, or is this just a quirk?

Gotta do the race thing? Are you that messed up?

Sorry, fella, but this is no bait post. Hate to mess up your day.

Evangelical white Christians are a cornerstone of the more conservative Republicans. Black Christians gravitate heavily to the Democrat party. But, you knew that.

[Guest]

Like any of Graham's followers were going to vote for Hillary.

[Guest]

Sorry, fella, but this is no bait post. Hate to mess up your day.

Evangelical white Christians are a cornerstone of the more conservative Republicans. Black Christians gravitate heavily to the Democrat party. But, you knew that.

Nope, it was a bait job. Using race is always just a ploy to bait. That's typical of racist liberals.

I'm a Christian and I have no intention of following Graham. He is NOT his father, and even if he was it wouldn't make any difference to me. I vote my OWN mind, not someone else's. I am not a needy, dependent liberal that needs someone else to make decisions for me. And I don't try to hide the fact that I am a Republican, like the liberal troll on here with multiple, Sybil like personalities, trying to fool us into thinking he is NOT REALLY a dependent, needy liberal. Perhaps he will vote for Kasich, or maybe he will vote for Trump. Sure.

[Guest]

Typical of republican radicals, if you don't play the game exactly as I want I'll take my ball and go home.

Nothing radical about Socialist candidates, though..........

[Guest]

Nope, it was a bait job. Using race is always just a ploy to bait. That's typical of racist liberals.

I'm a Christian and I have no intention of following Graham. He is NOT his father, and even if he was it wouldn't make any difference to me. I vote my OWN mind, not someone else's. I am not a needy, dependent liberal that needs someone else to make decisions for me. And I don't try to hide the fact that I am a Republican, like the liberal troll on here with multiple, Sybil like personalities, trying to fool us into thinking he is NOT REALLY a dependent, needy liberal. Perhaps he will vote for Kasich, or maybe he will vote for Trump. Sure.

Just google something on the order of this thread title and you will come up with many articles including those from FOX expressing concern over evangelical voters. You will also see information pertaining to white evangelical Christian voters and the Tea Party.

If you just want to vote Republican, do it. No problem with me. Just do so for reasons that are real and not just what the voices in your head say to do.

It truly sounds as though you are obsessed with just one person on this forum. Perhaps, stop posting on this forum and clear your head. Once again, no problem with me whatever you do.

[Guest]

Just google something on the order of this thread title and you will come up with many articles including those from FOX expressing concern over evangelical voters. You will also see information pertaining to white evangelical Christian voters and the Tea Party.

If you just want to vote Republican, do it. No problem with me. Just do so for reasons that are real and not just what the voices in your head say to do.

It truly sounds as though you are obsessed with just one person on this forum. Perhaps, stop posting on this forum and clear your head. Once again, no problem with me whatever you do.

No obsession, just an observation. If he wants to comment, far be it from me to interrupt. If he wants to have a conversation with himself, also fine. If he wants to get nasty like a juvenile, he is only embarrassing himself.

I have no voices in my head telling me how to vote. I vote according to my conservative ideology. I leave it to the liberals as far as being led around and told what to do and to which candidate to vote for.

I am not concerned about the Tea Party, or Christian voters that are so weak in their commitment that they would abandon their conservative ideology out of indignity, and spite. Personally, I don't believe the poster on here that wants to scare the conservatives with the idea of Graham leaving the GOP. I have more faith in my conservative ideologues that they will not let one stupid act of congress hinder their purpose of regaining a strong America. If Franklin feels that his demonstration is going to change the congressional vote, he's kind of mistaken. It's already over. And conservatives won't sabotage their own party out of spite, period.

And yes, I will vote Republican. I have no choice, I'm an American. Liberals are socialists and that is not an American ideology. That's Euorpean or whatever, but not American. So, yes I will vote Republican, even if there is a candidate that I don't care for. Because, I know that there is little chance that he/she is a socialist.

If conservatives/Republicans get mad at the budget vote then they are stupid for not understanding that there was no other way. Fighting that vote, would cause a Veto and a closing of the government. Exactly what Obama and the rest of the Anti-American socialists want. If Franklin and the Tea Party doesn't understand that, the I have given them more credit than they deserve. How much of a chance would we have of getting a Republican elected president if the Republicans cause a shut down? How many independent votes would the Republicans get if they defund Planned Parenthood? No, the idea is to pick your battles for gain, not principle. Principle will only doom the country right now. Like any war, there will be collateral damage. Democrats do not care about who or what is damaged, as long as they win. They are greedy and want to win EVERYTHING, so that will be their downfall.

And no, I wont' let you liberals chase me off of here. That is your agenda. I noticed that your liberal attacks have chased some posters away. The ones that wanted to discuss politics, not religion, candidates' children, Bush, Palin's morality, etc.

At any rate, who is Franklin Graham to the average person, anyway?

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No obsession, just an observation. If he wants to comment, far be it from me to interrupt. If he wants to have a conversation with himself, also fine. If he wants to get nasty like a juvenile, he is only embarrassing himself.

I have no voices in my head telling me how to vote. I vote according to my conservative ideology. I leave it to the liberals as far as being led around and told what to do and to which candidate to vote for.

I am not concerned about the Tea Party, or Christian voters that are so weak in their commitment that they would abandon their conservative ideology out of indignity, and spite. Personally, I don't believe the poster on here that wants to scare the conservatives with the idea of Graham leaving the GOP. I have more faith in my conservative ideologues that they will not let one stupid act of congress hinder their purpose of regaining a strong America. If Franklin feels that his demonstration is going to change the congressional vote, he's kind of mistaken. It's already over. And conservatives won't sabotage their own party out of spite, period.

And yes, I will vote Republican. I have no choice, I'm an American. Liberals are socialists and that is not an American ideology. That's Euorpean or whatever, but not American. So, yes I will vote Republican, even if there is a candidate that I don't care for. Because, I know that there is little chance that he/she is a socialist.

If conservatives/Republicans get mad at the budget vote then they are stupid for not understanding that there was no other way. Fighting that vote, would cause a Veto and a closing of the government. Exactly what Obama and the rest of the Anti-American socialists want. If Franklin and the Tea Party doesn't understand that, the I have given them more credit than they deserve. How much of a chance would we have of getting a Republican elected president if the Republicans cause a shut down? How many independent votes would the Republicans get if they defund Planned Parenthood? No, the idea is to pick your battles for gain, not principle. Principle will only doom the country right now. Like any war, there will be collateral damage. Democrats do not care about who or what is damaged, as long as they win. They are greedy and want to win EVERYTHING, so that will be their downfall.

And no, I wont' let you liberals chase me off of here. That is your agenda. I noticed that your liberal attacks have chased some posters away. The ones that wanted to discuss politics, not religion, candidates' children, Bush, Palin's morality, etc.

At any rate, who is Franklin Graham to the average person, anyway?


And I suppose you will leave the country if a socialist is elected. Goodness, you wouldn't want to live in a socialist country.

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And I suppose you will leave the country if a socialist is elected. Goodness, you wouldn't want to live in a socialist country.

At some point when things get too far left and too far socialst then the silent majority will rise to the occassion to DEMONSTRATE and ser the record straight for the minority that are committed to changing America....in the wrong direcrion.

I will be front and center to assist any such movement in America to get it to a point where those elected recall just who it is they REPRESENT in their elected positions.

Shame on the silent majority for allowing these minority representations in our beloved America get a foot hold.

I look forward to the majority doing what ever needs to be done to get America back where it belongs here at home and in the rest of the world.

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At some point when things get too far left and too far socialst then the silent majority will rise to the occassion to DEMONSTRATE and ser the record straight for the minority that are committed to changing America....in the wrong direcrion.


I look forward to the majority doing what ever needs to be done to get America back where it belongs here at home and in the rest of the world.

Need we remind the poster that the MAJORITY of American VOTERS elected this Amininstration TWICE?

The MINORITY the poster speaks of that "are committed to changing America in the wrong direction" are the Republicans who could not gather enough interest among themselves to get out and vote.

Blame yourselves! It is only the people who cast their vote that count. Others, be silent - you had your opportunity and you failed to use it.

[Guest]

And I suppose you will leave the country if a socialist is elected. Goodness, you wouldn't want to live in a socialist country.

A. We can only hope.

B. It would be tough to find a country that does not have socialist programs.

[Guest]

A good question....

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[Guest]

A. We can only hope.

B. It would be tough to find a country that does not have socialist programs.

I think that you are confusing 'social programs' with 'socialist programs'. They are not one in the same, as some Liberals would have you believe.

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Typical of republican radicals, if you don't play the game exactly as I want I'll take my ball and go home.

Dear Guest: And progressives aren't radical .Didn't Reid and the gang hold up all legislation except their pet projects while he was majority leader. and while progressives held both House and the Senate didn't they shut out Republicans etc etc etc . You progressives have selective memory down pat.

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I think that you are confusing 'social programs' with 'socialist programs'. They are not one in the same, as some Liberals would have you believe.

What is amusing is that he couldn't get anyone to take his bait, so he responded to himself, three times. Ooops, he will accuse me of being obsessed with him. I better watch myself. I will be accused of a hate crime.

[Guest]

The Republicans voted Paul Ryan in as the Speaker. He wisely did not believe that fighting the Planned Parenthood funding was important enough to close down the Federal government. The Republican party would have been seen as not willing to compromise and of obstructing the government. The times the Republicans shut down the government before did absolutely more harm than good to the Republicans.

Now, the question remains, will Franklin Graham's action take white Christian evangelican voters on his path and not vote for the GOP nominee?

Dear Guest: Your aforementioned affirmation is that same tired excuse spineless and self interested Republicans have been spouting for far too long.
We are going on 8 years of the de- construction of our Constitution, reckless and feckless policy and regulations that are strangling our economy and a foreign policy that has made the USA look weak and foolish. And all Republicans can say is gosh we can't let government shut down. Well how low can we go before they wise up?

Government can't and won't shut down because essential services etc must be maintained by law. Call their bluff and watch what happens. Indeed they will try and inflict pain but once they realize citizens are in for the long haul they will cave quickly Our fore fathers risk treasure and blood the least today's citizens can do is withstand some inconvenience

But a reliable weapon used by politicians is fear mongering and it works every single time because we have weak and lazy political leaders and because we have too many citizens who do not understand the concept and benefits of sacrifice .

And .....the most prominent question in this presidential campaign is how come Trump leads in the polls? Duh

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

Planned parenthood doesn't even make the top ten of problems we have in this country, with all due respect to the Reverend. This dialog just keeps us from addressing the real issues that are going to cause us a little pain. Like paying for war we are promoting.

Dear Guest:

Spoken like a progressive. And yet abortion, same sex marriage, gender issue war on women, etc lead the causes of the progressives presidential movement
How ironic

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[Guest]

And I suppose you will leave the country if a socialist is elected. Goodness, you wouldn't want to live in a socialist country.

Why do you insist on putting words in other posters' mouths? Where did you get that from what I said?

First off, Hillary won't be elected. She is going to jail, or at the very least, no one is stupid enough to vote for her, knowing what she has done in her evil past. There are some stupid kids and ignorant liberals that believe her and don't keep up on current events. So, she will get some votes. The only way she can even be a credible threat to the election is IF Slick Willy runs with her, and he is starting to campaign for her, upon her desperate request. And she IS desperate. She is looking real bad right now. All of the GOP candidates are even with her and most are beating her in the polls. Not that the polls are to be taken as gospel.

So, lets say that the Socialist witch gets elected. Will I leave? Nope, because the trickle down effect of her damage to our country will take a while to hit my age group. And I have a cushion to offset any damage she causes. If it did happen to get this far, YES, I might consider moving on. My wife has family in Australia. Yes, another socialist country. But, at least the gov PC police would leave me alone. And Australia is a big empty country, where I can ride my Harley for hours without bumping into anyone. '

So, the damage Hillary and socialist gang can do to our country will mostly be to the younger generation, not mine. I doubt I will live long enough to have to worry about it's effect on me. But, unlike you selfish liberals, I think about others. I think about the next generation and the next, not myself. I think about my country, unlike liberals. Liberals are selfish and needy. They NEED to be lead around and told what to do. They need the gov teat. And they are envious of the rest of us that are self reliant.

So, pound your chest, jump in and make ludicrous statements about how your socialist ideology, soon to be communist is the greatest. Brag about how you got enough votes to elect the first half black failure/president. But remember, you are NOT the majority. Your party consists of about the same amount of members as the Republican party. The rest is made up of Independents. The independents make up the difference. And guess what? The Independents are NOT socialists, so you know what means? And you know that large black voter turn out that Obummer had? Chiller won't get it. They think she is a fool and dishonest. They won't even turn out to vote.

So, you might want to think before spending the money in that check they are promising you. Might want to wait before popping that cork on the champagne.

But, don't stop laughing. We love the fool ......:jester:

[Guest]

It's like running away from home with no place to go. He'll be back.

Dear Guest:

The verb used in conjunction with Graham's action is "leaving" not "running"
His is a philosophical shift not a physical one

Dare I say many Republicans are doing the same thing and this schism in the party is very dangerous affair and if the party leaders can't pull it together we are heading for unintended consequences

Personal Best Regards:

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What is amusing is that he couldn't get anyone to take his bait, so he responded to himself, three times. Ooops, he will accuse me of being obsessed with him. I better watch myself. I will be accused of stupidity.

Oh, that has been made a FACT.

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I am not concerned about the Tea Party, or Christian voters that are so weak in their commitment that they would abandon their conservative ideology out of indignity, and spite. Personally, I don't believe the poster on here that wants to scare the conservatives with the idea of Graham leaving the GOP. I have more faith in my conservative ideologues that they will not let one stupid act of congress hinder their purpose of regaining a strong America. If Franklin feels that his demonstration is going to change the congressional vote, he's kind of mistaken. It's already over. And conservatives won't sabotage their own party out of spite, period.

If conservatives/Republicans get mad at the budget vote then they are stupid for not understanding that there was no other way. If Franklin and the Tea Party doesn't understand that, the I have given them more credit than they deserve. How much of a chance would we have of getting a Republican elected president if the Republicans cause a shut down? How many independent votes would the Republicans get if they defund Planned Parenthood? No, the idea is to pick your battles for gain, not principle. Principle will only doom the country right now. Like any war, there will be collateral damage.

At any rate, who is Franklin Graham to the average person, anyway?[/QUOTE]

The Villages on-line paper had a large article concerning Franklin Graham's bus tour. It was inviting Villagers to go to the Franklin Graham meeting for $30 on the bus.

Obviously, people do care about him and his message about leaving the Republican Party.

Hillary wins!