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Guest
10-13-2008, 07:36 PM
I have been a registered Republican all my life. I ran campaigns for Republican candidates for US Congress, New York State Senate, New York State Assembly and a slew of local races. I ran for office on the Republican ticket and considered a run for US Congress as a Republican. To this day, five years after leaving, I still get calls from ranking Republicans in New York seeking my opinion on various candidates.

Gulp!!!! Unless something dramatic happens to change my mind, I am on the verge of voting for Barack Obama. (duck and cover)

Guest
10-13-2008, 07:38 PM
I have not made up my mind yet who to vote for. No use rushing into things.

Guest
10-13-2008, 07:43 PM
I have been a registered Republican all my life. I ran campaigns for Republican candidates for US Congress, New York State Senate, New York State Assembly and a slew of local races. I ran for office on the Republican ticket and considered a run for US Congress as a Republican. To this day, five years after leaving, I still get calls from ranking Republicans in New York seeking my opinion on various candidates.

Gulp!!!! Unless something dramatic happens to change my mind, I am on the verge of voting for Barack Obama. (duck and cover)


I have been very vocal about how I feel about Sen Obama but everyone has their own opinions and rights to them. No duck and cover needed for this poster and I hope you are happy 3 years after the election because then maybe I will be, but I have my serious serious doubts, but congratulations on coming out of the closet anyway :)

Guest
10-13-2008, 08:21 PM
OMG...this is truly the funniest post/thread I have seen in a long time. Not that politics are funny...well sometimes they are...but your title certainly caught my attention...and I am still laughing!!!

Congrats on coming out....keep breathing...we Dems will welcome you with open arms....hhhmmm....atleast your vote anyway!! Kidding!!


I think it is a hard choice for everyone...Democrats voting for McCain....Republicans voting for Obama....what is this world coming to...

Again...great post!!

Guest
10-13-2008, 08:27 PM
While you are ducking, be consoled by the fact that the respect folks have for you already, as well as the strength of your convictions to change past belief and practice, will probably sway a number of others who are still deciding.

a tip of the cap for coming out!

Guest
10-13-2008, 08:46 PM
I am a retired LTC from US Army. 41 years more or less. I will be voting and campaigning for Obama. The republicans, while talking a good line, have repeatedly betrayed our troops and lied to us about why we are fighting. It is time we say no more of this.

Guest
10-13-2008, 09:28 PM
Will state up front that I was for Hillary and toyed around with voting for McCain back when, but then something happened. I was on Broadway in the
city and was approached by two young women campaigning for Obama, they were engaging, well informed so I stopped and listened. Soon after my next door neighbor Frankie, who I have known since he was 3 was off to Pennsylvania to knock on doors to get out the vote and was campaigning for Obama. Frankie is 19 years old, has taken a semester off from the American University in Washington and is still in northwestern PA as the National Obama Coordinator for Warren County. So I sat down and thought about this, if some one can inspire this generation to service and become engaged in the process it might be time to pass the baton. I know this post will probably open up a flood gate of protest, so be it. I swore I would never post in the Political but I did so have at it.
BTW did you know that William F. Buckly, son of William F Buckley, Jr. founder of the National Review has endorsed Obama?
Oh dear this is a scary post for a newbie.:shrug:

Guest
10-13-2008, 09:36 PM
Will state up front that I was for Hillary and toyed around with voting for McCain back when, but then something happened. I was on Broadway in the
city and was approached by two young women campaigning for Obama, they were engaging, well informed so I stopped and listened. Soon after my next door neighbor Frankie, who I have known since he was 3 was off to Pennsylvania to knock on doors to get out the vote and was campaigning for Obama. Frankie is 19 years old, has taken a semester off from the American University in Washington and is still in northwestern PA as the National Obama Coordinator for Warren County. So I sat down and thought about this, if some one can inspire this generation to service and become engaged in the process it might be time to pass the baton. I know this post will probably open up a flood gate of protest, so be it. I swore I would never post in the Political but I did so have at it.
BTW did you know that William F. Buckly, son of William F Buckley, Jr. founder of the National Review has endorsed Obama?
Oh dear this is a scary post for a newbie.:shrug:


Don't be scared....good to jump right in...I like your attitude and while I am an Obama voter as well....I wouldn't say it is time to pass the baton!!

There are many, many men and woman working on both campaigns here in TV's and all over the country of all ages. Hang on to the baton....vote for who you believe in....perhaps instead of passing it on....you share it!! Thanks for posting...no flood gates opened yet!!

Guest
10-13-2008, 09:43 PM
This was so nice to read. My dear husband and I have been having heated arguments regarding the election MUCH LIKE THE TOTV POLITICAL FORUM. We are both registered Republicans.....he always, me a one time Independent. I am voting for Sen. Obama and he for Sen. McCain. Personally, I doubt anyone person can fix what is wrong with this country, I can only pray that what is great about this country will prevail.

Guest
10-13-2008, 10:02 PM
IF A DEMOCRAT IS ELECTED PRESIDENT WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONTROLLED HOUSE AND SENATE THEN ITS KATY BAR THE DOOR AND HANG ON TO YOUR WALLET..........
I HOPE YOU FOLKS LOVE THE LIKES OF JAMES CARRVILLE BECAUSE THAT THE TYPE OF LEADERS WELL HAVE AND HEAVEN HELP US.. :0000000000luvmyhors

FUMAR

Guest
10-13-2008, 10:29 PM
Don't be scared....good to jump right in...I like your attitude and while I am an Obama voter as well....I wouldn't say it is time to pass the baton!!

There are many, many men and woman working on both campaigns here in TV's and all over the country of all ages. Hang on to the baton....vote for who you believe in....perhaps instead of passing it on....you share it!! Thanks for posting...no flood gates opened yet!!

For the encouragement, sharing sounds good, they need our experience and life skillls.
Good Night,
Gail

Guest
10-14-2008, 08:48 AM
I am a registered Republican and have voted Republican my entire life, but this election I am voting for Obama.

Guest
10-14-2008, 08:53 AM
This is the most confusing and conflicting election in memory. I really want to believe that Obama isn't just another pol in sheep's clothing but then when he speaks, it just doesn't sound genuine. McCain is clealy a politician first. I feel like I'm being conned by both sometimes - well, most of the time. I'll eventually make up my mind and vote for the one I think will do the least damage to the country.

Guest
10-14-2008, 09:04 AM
A retired LTC of 41 years voting for Obama? No need to even have the election. Obama wins easily after reading this. I feel that I'm in the same boat as Jan and Bill, lifelong republican who thinks that both sides are giving us crap. My vote won't really count since Mass. ALWAYS votes Democrat and this time will be no different.

I'll raise a toast to the new president - Barack Obama - and wish him well.

I hear you Fumar but hasn't 'Katy already barred the door' with what is happening in the world today? Can it really get worse? I hope you are wrong.

Guest
10-14-2008, 09:06 AM
i will be voting Obama also, decided it last night watch the news. I feel more at ease when listening to him talk,, alot of talk on i hope you feel that way after a few years. But the same was said when i voted for Bush, can be no worse. and alot of people said if you vote for Kerry you will be sorry. look at us now, and i didnt vote for Kerry......

Guest
10-14-2008, 09:29 AM
as opposed to a leader like George Bush?

Guest
10-14-2008, 12:17 PM
I hear you Fumar but hasn't 'Katy already barred the door' with what is happening in the world today? Can it really get worse? I hope you are wrong.

In a single word - YES.

Taking a step back from the negative thinking that is pervasive these days, let's look at reality. On the national security/terrorism front, thing are far from dire. Iraq has been turned around to the point where the light at the end of the tunnel may indeed be real and not that of an oncoming train. Obama's "judgement" calling for withdrawal, if enacted when he first pronounced it, would have resulted in unbelievable chaos across the Middle East. Obama's other judgement in the earlier days of the Iraq war, when he said there was "not that much distance between his position and that of George Bush's" was they key reason why things went so badly there during '95 and '96. So, Obama's judgement has been remarkably wrong.

People like to cling to Obama's "judgement" concerning not going into Iraq in the first place. While this is perhaps debatable, one must be honest and admit that the choice was not one of maintaining the status quo and going to war. The status quo was rapidly changing into exactly the scenario that caused the vast majority of Congress to vote for war. All information obtained after the invasion from Saddam's "cabinet" and from Saddam himself pointed to the fact that a sanctions-lifted, WMD-armed Saddam was inevitable. Would that have been better than the scenario of today with a democratically run Iraq that is on the road to security and that is no threat to the region or the US? I doubt it.

On terrorism, how many people actually would have believed that 7 years after 9/11 that there would not have been another domestic attack? This didn't just happen by accident. Yet, Obama and the Dems have been fighting to rescind the measures that have been used to keep us safe. If he gets into the White House and actually follows through with what the left wants, things can get remarkably worse in a matter of seconds.

Guest
10-14-2008, 12:44 PM
Fumar..........a friendly word. Writing in "CAPS" is considered to be shouting, which is rude. Unless, of course, you mean to be shouting.

Guest
10-14-2008, 12:46 PM
:agree::agree:I am a retired LTC from US Army. 41 years more or less. I will be voting and campaigning for Obama. The republicans, while talking a good line, have repeatedly betrayed our troops and lied to us about why we are fighting. It is time we say no more of this.

Amen

Guest
10-14-2008, 04:41 PM
we will be voting for Obama, but with the shape the country is in he won't be able to do anything. we are bankrupt. where do people think this money is coming from? SS is bankrupt, the pension guarentee fund is bankrupt. If China cashed in all of its us bonds and t-bills we could not fulfil the demand.

Guest
10-14-2008, 05:40 PM
I have been a registered Republican all my life. I ran campaigns for Republican candidates for US Congress, New York State Senate, New York State Assembly and a slew of local races. I ran for office on the Republican ticket and considered a run for US Congress as a Republican. To this day, five years after leaving, I still get calls from ranking Republicans in New York seeking my opinion on various candidates.

Gulp!!!! Unless something dramatic happens to change my mind, I am on the verge of voting for Barack Obama. (duck and cover)


Don't fret too much. As we age, moments of senility hit many of us, more and more frequently, yet are not necessarily debilitating. When hit by one of these bolts, try to find a quiet place to just sit and rest for a bit. Kinda like tight bowels, these feelings will pass. It is critical, however, that you do nothing foolish while under the influence "feelings." That's how a lot of 4th marriages occur after a night of Rocky & the Rollers.

Oh, and have no fear that Fumar's prediction of a resurgence of James Carville will follow a Dem sweep. The Ragin' Cajun is way too moderate for the current Dem powers that be.

Guest
10-14-2008, 06:13 PM
(I forgot to put the quote from Muncle in here, but it is right there above this post. I think. I can't figure out how to go back and grab the quote after I have already written the stuff to go under it. ) Oh well. I digress.

Anyway,

OK, I have to leave in a minute, but I just have to say this before I go.

First of all, I still have no idea who I am going to vote for. I have been in and out of the closet so may times, I cannot count them. I don't see myself in either one. But that is not what I want to say.

What I want to say is that I love it when Muncle writes stuff in that Muncle style of his.

IloveitIloveitIloveitIloveitIloveit.

Keep writing Muncle and making me laugh and pretty soon I will just vote for whoever you tell me to vote for.

OK?

Boomer

Guest
10-14-2008, 06:31 PM
Don't fret too much. As we age, moments of senility hit many of us, more and more frequently, yet are not necessarily debilitating. When hit by one of these bolts, try to find a quiet place to just sit and rest for a bit. Kinda like tight bowels, these feelings will pass. It is critical, however, that you do nothing foolish while under the influence "feelings." That's how a lot of 4th marriages occur after a night of Rocky & the Rollers.

Oh, and have no fear that Fumar's prediction of a resurgence of James Carville will follow a Dem sweep. The Ragin' Cajun is way too moderate for the current Dem powers that be.

Muncle,

When your moments hit, why do you think posting messages will help?

Here is a clue - It's not working!

Guest
10-14-2008, 09:13 PM
...for the simple reason that the outgoing Republican administration will be leaving such a monstrous national debt that we are nearing the limit that we can borrow to continue the grotesque deficit spending of the last eight years. All it will take is for the Chinese and the EU tp stay away from the next federal t-bill auction. If they do, the jig's up, we'll be broke and will have to begin acting in that reality.

Guest
10-14-2008, 09:23 PM
...for the simple reason that the outgoing Republican administration will be leaving such a monstrous national debt that we are nearing the limit that we can borrow to continue the grotesque deficit spending of the last eight years. All it will take is for the Chinese and the EU tp stay away from the next federal t-bill auction. If they do, the jig's up, we'll be broke and will have to begin acting in that reality.


THEY WILL SPEND !!! And even worse than that...I am scared of their constant attack on the rich (over 250,000 is I think the definition). I know that is not a popular thing to say and I surely dont make much, but they are going to destroy the fabric of this country with a ploy to "even the playing field". What motivation, as with socialist countries, will there be to be successful. I actually heard an Obama tape today where he was talking with a woman who was upset that SHE HAD TO PAY FOR HER SCHOOLING BY HERSELF !!! Imagine...she had to pay for her own schooling. Maybe it is me, but that simply goes against my grain !

Guest
10-14-2008, 10:39 PM
Just curious Bucco. Do you know the cost of colleges today? We do. We sent 3 kids to college. One to Berkley, one to Stanford and one to Wharton. You do the math. :icon_wink:

Guest
10-15-2008, 06:03 AM
Talk Show Host - you are not the only one. I've spoken to any number of people that used to be Repubs and are now saying they will vote for Obama. What is troubling to me, is how those of us who feel that way, almost feel like we have to keep it a secret. I play golf, go out with friends, go to club meetings, and many people, including those that run The Villages are very pro Republican, which is not a problem for me, but they hate that I'll vote for Obama. I've never run into that before -- if people I knew had different viewpoints, we'd just laugh about it and go on our merry way. But here, you feel like you're ostracized from society because you favor a different candidate. If you read the Villages Daily Sun you seen how that pro Republican ideal is reinforced. Letters to the editor or editorials are always pro McCain or anti-Obama. But the thing is, everyone does not think that way. There are a lot of us closet Obama people.

Guest
10-15-2008, 06:18 AM
I think I should make it clear that I am not switching to the Democrat party. I will not be voting for Obama because he is a clear choice. If I vote for him, it will be because McCain has not convinced me that he is the best candidate. As unique as Sarah Palin is, I am concerned that she would not be a viable president. I think she lacks experience and polish. It's not so much her role as Vice President that concerns me as the possibility that she could be president in a heartbeat (or the stop of a heartbeat).

One of the things that would stand in my way of becoming a Democrat is that I see an overwhelming amount of intellectual snobbery in that party, and it is not warranted. I am, however, becoming weary of that portion of the conservative movement that refuses to move forward. Franklin Roosevelt said, "I do not undersand a man who has two perfectly good legs who refuses to move forward."

Guest
10-15-2008, 06:59 AM
Just curious Bucco. Do you know the cost of colleges today? We do. We sent 3 kids to college. One to Berkley, one to Stanford and one to Wharton. You do the math. :icon_wink:


I am sure that is correct, but do you want me and your neighbors send them to school ???

Guest
10-15-2008, 12:53 PM
Well stated TH - You summed up my current reservations about the party (both of them in fact) very well.

Guest
10-15-2008, 01:21 PM
(I forgot to put the quote from Muncle in here, but it is right there above this post. I think. I can't figure out how to go back and grab the quote after I have already written the stuff to go under it. ) Oh well. I digress.

Anyway,

OK, I have to leave in a minute, but I just have to say this before I go.

First of all, I still have no idea who I am going to vote for. I have been in and out of the closet so may times, I cannot count them. I don't see myself in either one. But that is not what I want to say.

What I want to say is that I love it when Muncle writes stuff in that Muncle style of his.

IloveitIloveitIloveitIloveitIloveit.

Keep writing Muncle and making me laugh and pretty soon I will just vote for whoever you tell me to vote for.

OK?

Boomer

I agree with Boomer. I ALWAYS agree with Boomer. Muncle is clever, and funny and crusty and B A D. But in a nice way. I like Muncle.

I don't know who I am voting for either. But Sarah Palin is going to be in view of MY HOUSE in West Chester on Friday. She is cute. Even if I don't totally agree with her. I am kinda excited she is gonna be right there on OUR square. But I have to drag clear over to Hamilton to get Tickets. I guess I will just go look out of our daughter Helene's room with binoculars, unless the secret service doesn't like people using binoculars.

Guest
10-15-2008, 02:06 PM
I agree with Boomer. I ALWAYS agree with Boomer. Muncle is clever, and funny and crusty and B A D. But in a nice way. I like Muncle.

I don't know who I am voting for either. But Sarah Palin is going to be in view of MY HOUSE in West Chester on Friday. She is cute. Even if I don't totally agree with her. I am kinda excited she is gonna be right there on OUR square. But I have to drag clear over to Hamilton to get Tickets. I guess I will just go look out of our daughter Helene's room with binoculars, unless the secret service doesn't like people using binoculars.


GRACIE! GRACIE! GRACIE!

Stop! Think! Be quiet!

Don't you know that the Secret Service is trained to look up at windows!!!!

And GRACIE!

Binoculars??!

Girl, what are you thinkin'?

GRACIE! Do not scope out Sarah Palin from an upstairs window!!! Please Gracie please. These people are highly trained!!!

Sarah had her people call my people this morning. Well, actually Mr. Boomer answered the phone and a recording talked to him. They wanted to invite us. I think they still have that doctored up picture of W and me.

Boomer

Guest
10-15-2008, 02:07 PM
, unless the secret service doesn't like people using binoculars.



I don't think they will mind as long as they are not "attached" to any other instrument....just leave the window curtains WIDE open so they can have a clear view of you....wouldn't want to alert them and have all those young secret service agents storming your house...

Well....that could add some excitement to ones day....:1rotfl:

Guest
10-15-2008, 03:59 PM
I am going to be voting for McCain, but let's face it, the difference between the Dems and GOP is that the Dems are tax and spend and the GOP are borrow and spend.
Oh, and by the way, the son of William F. Buckley, Jr. is Christopher Buckely. I guess he got bounced from the NR.

Guest
10-15-2008, 08:32 PM
I am going to be voting for McCain, but let's face it, the difference between the Dems and GOP is that the Dems are tax and spend and the GOP are borrow and spend.
Oh, and by the way, the son of William F. Buckley, Jr. is Christopher Buckely. I guess he got bounced from the NR.

Much talk in the past few days of Christopher Buckley and his announcement of his plan to vote Dem.

A time or two somewhere on here, I have referred to Christopher Buckley's book Boomsday. It was published about a year ago.

Boomsday is a satire about how the baby boomers are reaching SS age and threatening the system with collapse.

So anyway, in Christopher Buckley's book, because of the threat of those pesky aging boomers on the nation's economy, the government comes up with a plan. Why yes, a government plan.

The plan is that the baby boomers will be offered tax incentives to do themselves in at a certain point.

So that's the plot of Boomsday. It has probably hit paperback by now. Gee, I wonder if he has sold the movie rights to this satire yet.

Let's see, hmmmm, if he did by now sell the movie rights to Boomsday, I wonder how long it will take to hit the big screen. Really reaching the masses with, oh I don't know, a thought or two, maybe. Oh my! Could such an idea ever really take hold? The timing could be all too.....

In the book, the idea for dealing with the threat of the boomers actually started as a blogger's satire to make a point about how somebody needed to address the issues with Social Security. The blogger was writing satire. She was kidding. She met a power hungry politician. (please pardon the redundancy in that description) Anyway, the politician takes the idea and runs with it -- yeah, he runs with it.

And, yes my name is...
Boomer

Guest
10-15-2008, 08:46 PM
GRACIE! GRACIE! GRACIE!

Stop! Think! Be quiet!

Don't you know that the Secret Service is trained to look up at windows!!!!

And GRACIE!

Binoculars??!

Girl, what are you thinkin'?

GRACIE! Do not scope out Sarah Palin from an upstairs window!!! Please Gracie please. These people are highly trained!!!

Sarah had her people call my people this morning. Well, actually Mr. Boomer answered the phone and a recording talked to him. They wanted to invite us. I think they still have that doctored up picture of W and me.

Boomer

Boom.

You know John Boehner is from West Chester and for many years, just lived across the back from us, only a creek separated their property from ours and he and his wife were friends of ours, actually still are, but we rarely see them. We have film of him at our daughters wedding. It was a real strange but nice feeling to see him sitting three down from the president in the bailout meeting. Now John is someone I would vote for for president without hesitancy. I do not mean to be name dropping. It is funny how people you know become people everyone knows. One of the benefits of age I guess.

Guest
10-15-2008, 08:52 PM
In my earlier years in the Air Force I converted to GOP, RR treated us well with a nice raise and we gained respect globally. Today, our status is questionable but are troops are still #1. Locally, the GOP has caused me to run for the hills, I like being Indepependent, no knock out on last debate makes this a tough decision. God Bless us all!!!

Respectfully,
J.Capporelli, Ret AF

Guest
10-15-2008, 09:15 PM
"OK, I have to leave in a minute, but I just have to say this before I go.

First of all, I still have no idea who I am going to vote for. I have been in and out of the closet so may times, I cannot count them. I don't see myself in either one. But that is not what I want to say.

What I want to say is that I love it when Muncle writes stuff in that Muncle style of his.

IloveitIloveitIloveitIloveitIloveit."

Hey, if you had to wake up each day and face that that you would understand! Go easy on poor Munkle .......

Guest
10-16-2008, 07:03 AM
I am going to be voting for McCain, but let's face it, the difference between the Dems and GOP is that the Dems are tax and spend and the GOP are borrow and spend.
Oh, and by the way, the son of William F. Buckley, Jr. is Christopher Buckely. I guess he got bounced from the NR.


this is on C. Buckley. you can hear him explain what happened.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27186363#27186363