Democrat House Resolution-Muslim hate speech

[Guest]

House Liberals have sponsored a resolution against hate speech of Muslims. Interesting how low they will go to get a few Muslim votes. They do seem desperate, in my opinion.

You can read the whole resolution if you wish, but I supplied a few of the interesting points/excerpts.

H.Res.569 — 114th Congress (2015-2016)
Introduced in House (12/17/2015)

"Whereas this Muslim community is recognized as having made innumerable contributions to the cultural and economic fabric and well-being of United States society;"


" Whereas the rise of hateful and anti-Muslim speech, violence, and cultural ignorance plays into the false narrative spread by terrorist groups of Western hatred of Islam, and can encourage certain individuals to react in extreme and violent ways: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That the House of Representatives—

"(1) expresses its condolences for the victims of anti-Muslim hate crimes;"

"(3) denounces in the strongest terms the increase of hate speech,............."

"(4) recognizes that the United States Muslim community has made countless positive contributions to United States society;"

etc, etc, etc................

[Guest]

:bowdown:....:1rotfl:

[Guest]

I guess liberalism truly IS a mental disorder

Irrelevant, however, since the House will soundly defeat this politically motivated excrement

BTW, were they referring to the contributions by muslims such as Osama bin Laden, Major Hassan, that lovely San Bernadino couple and numerous others. Or just the contributions of muslim clerics in radical mosques, or the financial contributions of Iran and others that support these barbarians.

[Guest]

House Liberals have sponsored a resolution against hate speech of Muslims. Interesting how low they will go to get a few Muslim votes. They do seem desperate, in my opinion.

You can read the whole resolution if you wish, but I supplied a few of the interesting points/excerpts.

H.Res.569 — 114th Congress (2015-2016)
Introduced in House (12/17/2015)

"Whereas this Muslim community is recognized as having made innumerable contributions to the cultural and economic fabric and well-being of United States society;"


" Whereas the rise of hateful and anti-Muslim speech, violence, and cultural ignorance plays into the false narrative spread by terrorist groups of Western hatred of Islam, and can encourage certain individuals to react in extreme and violent ways: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That the House of Representatives—

"(1) expresses its condolences for the victims of anti-Muslim hate crimes;"

"(3) denounces in the strongest terms the increase of hate speech,............."

"(4) recognizes that the United States Muslim community has made countless positive contributions to United States society;"

etc, etc, etc................

Your point is?

[Guest]

Your point is?

I'll answer that for the OP

The point is: What kind of morons would propose such a resolution, and worse yet, what kind of morons would vote for them? I suggest, since they have such love for muslim contributions, they can move to a muslim country and see what they have built for themselves, and how they govern it.

[Guest]

Your point is?

Your point is?????? Please expand your snarky comment.

[Guest]

It's very curious that if we go to these foreign lands and act as they act here we'd possibly be stoned to death. Seems rather one sided. We have to be sensitive to their needs, wants, religion, way of life yet they don't have to return the favor.

[Guest]

Your point is?????? Please expand your snarky comment.

and no...it wasn't me that asked that question...but it was you who used that stupid word "snarky". A word designed to cover any comment designed to reflect the holier than though attitude of the person using it.

They asked because they wanted to know if they had a point to make in lieu of just trying to stir the pot. Seems a reasonable request to a sane person. If taken in context your comment was actually nastier than the person who asked "Your point is?".

[Guest]

Your point is?

If you need ask, then the post is over your head. I believe the point of the post is some what evident, but I guess I could have supplied the article that had this linked to it. However, I felt that the conservative "bias" would have been a bit too much for our liberal friend. I would not like to see his head explode just prior to the new year. :boom:

[Guest]

An attempt to mandate another hate crime, and limit free speech? I guess the campus mentality has permeated to the public sector.

[Guest]

I'll answer that for the OP

The point is: What kind of morons would propose such a resolution, and worse yet, what kind of morons would vote for them? I suggest, since they have such love for muslim contributions, they can move to a muslim country and see what they have built for themselves, and how they govern it.

For the Muslims that we have in The Villages - we should tell them to go back to Syria where they came from?

I also believe there are a few Muslim Congressmen who were voted into office. Shall we revoke their citizenship - even though they were born in the US (unlike Rafael Cruz, Jr) and send them to Syria, too?

[Guest]

For the Muslims that we have in The Villages - we should tell them to go back to Syria where they came from?

I also believe there are a few Muslim Congressmen who were voted into office. Shall we revoke their citizenship - even though they were born in the US (unlike Rafael Cruz, Jr) and send them to Syria, too?

Since you enjoy moving over to the extreme when you reply, let me up you one.
How do you know that ALL of the Muslims in the Villages are from Syria?

And,

As a matter of fact, some of the sponsors of the HR WERE Muslim.

Did anyone suggest that they have their citizenship revoked? And maybe it is not such a bad idea, IF they are Anti-American and pro-radical Islam.

There, not quite as hysterical as your reply, but maybe--maybe you can see how ridiculous your reply is. But, maybe not...........

[Guest]

For the Muslims that we have in The Villages - we should tell them to go back to Syria where they came from?

I also believe there are a few Muslim Congressmen who were voted into office. Shall we revoke their citizenship - even though they were born in the US (unlike Rafael Cruz, Jr) and send them to Syria, too?

"we should tell them to go back to Syria where they came from?" Sorry, according to the HR, if passed, that would be a violation of the hate speech.

[Guest]

These terms conservative and liberal. Let's see you are conservative if you take away the rights of an American Citizen to make a decision for herself and you are liberal if you want to give her that right. hmmmmm! Conservative or Liberal is more complicated depending on the subject matter I would say.

[Guest]

You mean some morons in Congress came up with a resolution that has no chance of passing. I am shocked.

[Guest]

Freedom to worship is a liberal point of view but it's conservative to take that right away from an American citizen. Some people have a twisted mind.

[Guest]

It's very curious that if we go to these foreign lands and act as they act here we'd possibly be stoned to death. Seems rather one sided. We have to be sensitive to their needs, wants, religion, way of life yet they don't have to return the favor.

We are sensitive to people's needs, wants, religion, and way of life because we are American, and our nation was founded on such principles.

[Guest]

The muslim lovers/supporters/promoters/leveragers can get at the end of the long line of others who for some reason in this day and age do not get the same treatment as muslims!!!!

If they don't like what they hear and read....don't listen....don't read it.
If they don't like that it is said or printed here they certainly can leave and go some where that suits their needs.

Shame on the politicians/educators/academia for representing them in a light that supports taking away from our freedoms to satisfy the few muslims with connections.

Linguine spined, no cahones, permissive, keep the muslims happy at the expense of the majority of us Americans!!!!

[Guest]

Your point is?????? Please expand your snarky comment.
If you can't understand the comment, that is a serious problem you have!

[Guest]

We are sensitive to people's needs, wants, religion, and way of life because we are American, and our nation was founded on such principles.
Aren't we entitled to the pursuit of life, liberty, and some radical Muslims want to take that away, and millions of other Muslims are
silent about it!

[Guest]

for the muslims that we have in the villages - we should tell them to go back to syria where they came from?

I also believe there are a few muslim congressmen who were voted into office. Shall we revoke their citizenship - even though they were born in the us (unlike rafael cruz, jr) and send them to syria, too?

yes

[Guest]

These terms conservative and liberal. Let's see you are conservative if you take away the rights of an American Citizen to make a decision for herself and you are liberal if you want to give her that right. hmmmmm! Conservative or Liberal is more complicated depending on the subject matter I would say.

You are a bit confused. Conservatives wish to save a life and liberals wish to take a life. Conservatives have no problem executing the evil murderer and the liberal wants to save him. A conservative believes that an innocent life is more important that the murderer that wishes to take that life. The liberal believes in contraception paid for by the government(via abortion), at the expense of the innocent life. So, it is not the life of the female that is of anyone's concern. It is the life of the unborn and the expense the tax payer has to foot for that contraception. Because that is what it is, abortion equal contraception. Less than 1% are due to medical issues. 90%+ are due to convenience. So, please try to be truthful for a change. Just admit it, that liberals are lazy about contraceptive and want the Gov to subsidize it for them. Liberals are needy and NEED the gov nanny. Don't blame it on conservatives for having morals. And please stop trying to justify the sale of baby body parts for profit, as a necessity for research.

In short, get over yourself. Quit trying to convince yourself that the liberal way is the right way. It is obvious that with your argument, that your evidence is weak and not even convincing yourself.

So, next time you attempt to divert from the thread, at least have a good, solid point. Something that you can convincingly defend.

[Guest]

I'll answer that for the OP

The point is: What kind of morons would propose such a resolution, and worse yet, what kind of morons would vote for them? I suggest, since they have such love for muslim contributions, they can move to a muslim country and see what they have built for themselves, and how they govern it.
The same morons that bent over and grabbed their ankles and voted for Omnibus spending bill two weeks ago

[Guest]

This thread shows anyone who may be thinking of moving toThe Villages that there are many closed minded people living in The Villages and this place does not tolerate those who "are not like us".

One poster on here is open about his homophobic feelings, several post their diislike for African-Americans (in not subtle ways), and now - against hate crime status for different religions.

Pitiful.

[Guest]

This thread shows anyone who may be thinking of moving toThe Villages that there are many closed minded people living in The Villages and this place does not tolerate those who "are not like us".

One poster on here is open about his homophobic feelings, several post their diislike for African-Americans (in not subtle ways), and now - against hate crime status for different religions.

Pitiful.

Sorry, but while people should be tolerant and accepting of all religions, ethnicities, races and sexual preferences, YOU CANNOT LEGISLATE MORALITY. It is even more divisive than leaving people to their own conscience. There are many people who would be more than willing to accept a gay, or black, or Muslim neighbor---until they are told THEY HAVE TO, then they rebel against the very thing they did not mind in the first place.

[Guest]

Dear Guests:

It is not the intent of the Democrats House Resolution that is wrong, its that it is redundant because we already have enacted such laws. So in my view the Resolution is suspect because its based on politics and not for humanutarian reasons.

As to the Muslim question. Muslim, Jews, Christians are all children of Abraham.
All religions flowing from Abraham have at one time or another been radicalized or have had secretarian schisms over the centuries. The Muslims seemed to be the last with their disdain for anyone designated as an infidel a ****e or a Sunni.

Some members on this particular thread seem to have fallen victim of the fallacy of composition or perhaps hasty generalization.

Some Muslims are bad but not all Muslims are bad

Some Greeks are bad but not all Greeks are bad

Some Americans are bad but not all Americans are bad

So it behooves us all in order to have clear communications perhaps addressing those Islam radical terrorist who are bent on destroying those they deem as infidels are the group that we are referring to AND also those Muslims who by their silence are complicit in the terrorist acts of their faith.


Personal Best Regards

[Guest]

Dear Guest:

We have a poltergist on this thread as my previous post verifies It recorded
a ****e and Sunni. I wrote a ****e and Sunni??????

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

This thread shows anyone who may be thinking of moving toThe Villages that there are many closed minded people living in The Villages and this place does not tolerate those who "are not like us".

One poster on here is open about his homophobic feelings, several post their diislike for African-Americans (in not subtle ways), and now - against hate crime status for different religions.

Pitiful.

Yes, we certainly do have some close minded people living here, LIBERALS. But, they are few as compared to the caring conservatives. We have a virtually crime free community, NO THANKS to liberals. We have a community with Christmas decorations throughout during the holidays. We have clean streets. We have rules enforced where it is quiet in the late evenings. Yep, a liberal free community seems to be working out quite nice, thank you.

[Guest]

Hfortunately, we do not have a liberal-free community. We liberals are, most of whom are wise enough and old enough to cherish our conservative friends. Liberals do embrace the right of people to celebrate their religion, on their personal property, just not on government property. Yes, we are anti -death penalty, as are most civilized nations of the world. Yes, we are pro-abortion as we believe women shouldn't be forced to raise a child that is unwanted and unloved, especially raised in poverty. More importantly, we do not believe is a child. It is a fertilized egg that is not viable outside of the womb. We believe everyone is entitled to a fair and just trial. We believe that everyone has a right to live peacefully and lawfully in the United States without fear of being tormented for race, religion, political beliefs, etc.

Is this bill being presented a bad bill? Not really. It is a waste of time since, as has been stated, there are already laws banning hate speech and actions. Personally, I'd rather some teeth be put into these laws. You want to spew venom? Feel free to do so in the confines of your home. Don't defile a synagogue or a mosque. Don't call someone a derogatory name because of the color of their skin or their choice of clothing.

So, dear conservatives, don't be too quick to put us liberals down. We have as much right to our views as you do yours. Many of us have thought long and hard before coming to our conclusions. Without us, this world would be a much uglier place.

Red

[Guest]

For me it has nothing to do with open or closed mindedness.....which after all is just someone elses opinion of what another believes or not.

It is ALL ABOUT trying to take away that which most of us have had all out lives and have able to co-exist with others for all these years.
So I don't care what muslims (current forcus) or others believe or not, support or not, et al. All we ask is that they NOT TRY TO TAKE OURS AWAY because they happen to not belive/support/accept.

Who said it becomes fair when some have to give up their beliefs because it may be offensive to some others.

Just like the rest of us do every day, the muslims and all others that do not like what they hear....they do not have to listen. And for those who do not like what they see, don't look. And if they do not like how it is done in America.....let them go some where else.

I will not give up my freedoms because of a few who don't like them.

The whole thing is nothing more than political and media BS....to the max.

LIke it or not the majority of America rules......not some special interest or minority group.

Stop the watering down of American values....remember and remind those who would take away our freedoms to accomodate theirs are in fact taking away our freedoms.

[Guest]

The poster above stated INCORRECTLY (again) that the majority of Americans rule. Wrong, Bubba!

It is the majority of American VOTERS who get to decide.

The Obama Administration was twice voted into office by the majority of American VOTERS.

Remember, if you did not vote, you have no right to complain. Your vote is your voice.

[Guest]

For me it has nothing to do with open or closed mindedness.....which after all is just someone elses opinion of what another believes or not.

It is ALL ABOUT trying to take away that which most of us have had all out lives and have able to co-exist with others for all these years.
So I don't care what muslims (current forcus) or others believe or not, support or not, et al. All we ask is that they NOT TRY TO TAKE OURS AWAY because they happen to not belive/support/accept.

Who said it becomes fair when some have to give up their beliefs because it may be offensive to some others.

Just like the rest of us do every day, the muslims and all others that do not like what they hear....they do not have to listen. And for those who do not like what they see, don't look. And if they do not like how it is done in America.....let them go some where else.

I will not give up my freedoms because of a few who don't like them.

The whole thing is nothing more than political and media BS....to the max.

LIke it or not the majority of America rules......not some special interest or minority group.

Stop the watering down of American values....remember and remind those who would take away our freedoms to accomodate theirs are in fact taking away our freedoms.

:agree:...:thumbup:......good post.

[Guest]

The poster above stated INCORRECTLY (again) that the majority of Americans rule. Wrong, Bubba!

It is the majority of American VOTERS who get to decide.

The Obama Administration was twice voted into office by the majority of American VOTERS.

Remember, if you did not vote, you have no right to complain. Your vote is your voice.

So, according to you, I have no right to free speech (right to complain) if I choose not to vote. Interesting perspective.

[Guest]

So, according to you, I have no right to free speech (right to complain) if I choose not to vote. Interesting perspective.

Like I have said before on here, YOU love to use extremes when replying to someone's post. I believe the poster was saying that one that does not vote, can't complain about the outcome. Just putting it in language that you might understand. And I typed real slow too, so you can read it. You wonder why no one respects you. Try reading your own responses to people, and you might/might understand why. No one said anything about removing your right to "free speech." Geesh, grow up.

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Like I have said before on here, YOU love to use extremes when replying to someone's post. I believe the poster was saying that one that does not vote, can't complain about the outcome. Just putting it in language that you might understand. And I typed real slow too, so you can read it. You wonder why no one respects you. Try reading your own responses to people, and you might/might understand why. No one said anything about removing your right to "free speech." Geesh, grow up.

"You wonder why no one respects you". You've got to be kidding. Why would I care what you think?

[Guest]

The poster above stated INCORRECTLY (again) that the majority of Americans rule. Wrong, Bubba!

It is the majority of American VOTERS who get to decide.

The Obama Administration was twice voted into office by the majority of American VOTERS.

Remember, if you did not vote, you have no right to complain. Your vote is your voice.

Aren't you once again shuffling the deck to have your words make your point but you have this continuing issue with re-stating the intent of the post you are quoting to make YOUR point.

We all understand the majority of the voters will win an election.

SEPARATE SUBJECT BELOW:


The majority of Americans do determine outcomes (this has nothing to do with who wins an election that you are hung up on).
Eventually the silent majority, before it no longer is, will rise up and fight the watering down and taking away of our values and freedoms.

Vote however you want.
Believe what ever you want (or not).
Do what ever you want.
Go where ever you want.

But do not think for a minute because we do not share your point of view....or that we do/see/say things differently than you and any other minority or special interest group or political BS....that you or anybody else has the right to chastise us.....or take away our freedoms and beliefs.

Your continual bashing of those with another opinion than yours has well worn it's effect out. I would make a bet you are not so forward and disespectful at home or any other face to face discussion.

[Guest]

"You wonder why no one respects you". You've got to be kidding. Why would I care what you think?

Hopefully, in 2016, there will be a lot less of your trolling. Develop an interest in another activity and leave this forum to us grown-up, little boy. Your mommy is probably tired of you at home during Christmas break. We definitely are!

[Guest]

"You wonder why no one respects you". You've got to be kidding. Why would I care what you think?

Well, since you are the one that comes on here whining about getting no respect, that would be a good indicator.

Your replies to comments are equivalent to a child asking his parent if he can go to the movies and being told no. He then replies "So, I can NEVER go to the movies?"

You are the one that says it is a war against women's rights if we don't believe the taxpayer should pay for their birth control. EXTREMES.

Your false indignity is so disingenuous.

But, you are not the only liberal that talks that way. It is ingrained into the liberal psyche. Being the needy victim.

[Guest]

Hopefully, in 2016, there will be a lot less of your trolling. Develop an interest in another activity and leave this forum to us grown-up, little boy. Your mommy is probably tired of you at home during Christmas break. We definitely are!

Sorry to disappoint you, but i will be here in 2016.:pepper2:

[Guest]

Sorry to disappoint you, but i will be here in 2016.:pepper2:

You enjoy the attention so much that you endure the humiliation, right?

[Guest]

Well, since you are the one that comes on here whining about getting no respect, that would be a good indicator.

Your replies to comments are equivalent to a child asking his parent if he can go to the movies and being told no. He then replies "So, I can NEVER go to the movies?"

You are the one that says it is a war against women's rights if we don't believe the taxpayer should pay for their birth control. EXTREMES.

Your false indignity is so disingenuous.

But, you are not the only liberal that talks that way. It is ingrained into the liberal psyche. Being the needy victim.

Nice rant, but I think you have me confused with someone else. I'm not a whining Liberal nor have I ever complained about "getting no respect" nor have I ever complained about the bogus "war against women's rights".

[Guest]

You enjoy the attention so much that you endure the humiliation, right?

As do you! :D

[Guest]

Nice rant, but I think you have me confused with someone else. I'm not a whining Liberal nor have I ever complained about "getting no respect" nor have I ever complained about the bogus "war against women's rights".

I apologize, all LIBERALS look the same to me.

[Guest]

I apologize, all LIBERALS look the same to me.

Just for the record, I am a Conservative. But, in your case all IDIOTS look the same to me!

[Guest]

OK PINHEADS. Lets make 6pm the cutoff time tonight for the spewing of venom to stop until tomorrow morning at 6am. You think you can do it like you did on Christmas. We were so proud of you then acting like the Good American's I'm sure you are.

[Guest]

Just for the record, I am a Conservative. But, in your case all IDIOTS look the same to me!

Sure you are. That's why you use the extreme when referring to losing your freedom of speech when someone mentioned that if you didn't vote, you had no right to complain. Who are you attempting to fool? Yourself? Either that, or you don't know which comment your are replying to.

Isn't it funny how a liberal will deny being a liberal when he is called out on something he said?

I'll stand by what the other poster said IF YOU DIDN'T VOTE, you can't complain about the results. You can't complain about what that leadership is doing with our country. As a matter of fact, if you didn't fulfill your obligation to vote, then you can only comment on future politics, or else admit that you are part of the problem. One doesn't make any difference if he chooses not to vote out of spite. You hold your nose and vote for the least bad choice, if that is how you feel.

[Guest]

Sure you are. That's why you use the extreme when referring to losing your freedom of speech when someone mentioned that if you didn't vote, you had no right to complain. Who are you attempting to fool? Yourself? Either that, or you don't know which comment your are replying to.

Isn't it funny how a liberal will deny being a liberal when he is called out on something he said?

I'll stand by what the other poster said IF YOU DIDN'T VOTE, you can't complain about the results. You can't complain about what that leadership is doing with our country. As a matter of fact, if you didn't fulfill your obligation to vote, then you can only comment on future politics, or else admit that you are part of the problem. One doesn't make any difference if he chooses not to vote out of spite. You hold your nose and vote for the least bad choice, if that is how you feel.

Funny how you Liberals feel that someone has the obligation to vote but has no obligation to serve in the military or pay taxes.

[Guest]

Funny how you Liberals feel that someone has the obligation to vote but has no obligation to serve in the military or pay taxes.

Just as I thought, you are replying to the wrong post again. Nice cover up, though. You might want to hold back on the consumption of alcohol a bit. It's still early in the day and New Years is hours away.

If anything in my posts suggest that I am a liberal to you, then you are a problem drinker. If you are playing, then you are a troll. Either way, you shouldn't be on here with the adults.

[Guest]

I read this whole thread twice and haven't found any adults yet(except me)

[Guest]

Just as I thought, you are replying to the wrong post again. Nice cover up, though. You might want to hold back on the consumption of alcohol a bit. It's still early in the day and New Years is hours away.

If anything in my posts suggest that I am a liberal to you, then you are a problem drinker. If you are playing, then you are a troll. Either way, you shouldn't be on here with the adults.

You do realize that you don't have read nor respond to my posts don't you?

Oh, by the way, I don't really care what you think about my "obligation" to vote, nor do I care what rights you think that I should enjoy when it comes to complaining about ANYTHING. Why would I? What makes you so special, that I should care?

[Guest]

You do realize that you don't have read nor respond to my posts don't you?

Oh, by the way, I don't really care what you think about my "obligation" to vote, nor do I care what rights you think that I should enjoy when it comes to complaining about ANYTHING. Why would I? What makes you so special, that I should care?

Obviously, you do.....:icon_wink:

[Guest]

You do realize that you don't have read nor respond to my posts don't you?

Oh, by the way, I don't really care what you think about my "obligation" to vote, nor do I care what rights you think that I should enjoy when it comes to complaining about ANYTHING. Why would I? What makes you so special, that I should care?

You must care, else you wouldn't still be here.

[Guest]

And where is it written or stated there is a difference in rights of those who voted VS those who did not vote?

Just another position to facilitate a statement to be made....now an opinion we can all handle that (most of us that is).....

we all hove our own and agree with some and disagree with others and still more we are close on.

There are some few who have a major problem acknowledging there are any valid opinions other than the ones they promote. And as we all know it ain't a learning process. Some things cannot be fixed.

[Guest]

Just for the record, I am a Conservative. But, in your case all IDIOTS look the same to me!

CAREFUL. That might be construed by liberals to be a violation of HR 569 regarding hate speech. And for the record, we welcome your conversion over to our side.

[Guest]

You must care, else you wouldn't still be here.

Any so are you. Thanks for reading and responding to my posts.

[Guest]

And where is it written or stated there is a difference in rights of those who voted VS those who did not vote?

Just another position to facilitate a statement to be made....now an opinion we can all handle that (most of us that is).....

we all hove our own and agree with some and disagree with others and still more we are close on.

There are some few who have a major problem acknowledging there are any valid opinions other than the ones they promote. And as we all know it ain't a learning process. Some things cannot be fixed.

Perhaps that poster that said one cannot complain if they did not vote, meant "in my opinion, one has no right to complain if one did not vote." Sometimes when a liberal is looking for a fight, you have to spell it out for them so they have no ammo. Of course, ammo is a bad choice of words, considering the anti-gun rhetoric it might start.

[Guest]

Any so are you. Thanks for reading and responding to my posts.

???? :wine::wine:

[Guest]

???? :wine::wine:

That was a typo, but you knew that didn't you? Then again maybe not. In any case, it should read "And' not "Any". I don't bother to proofread my post, because it really isn't worth my time nor effort.

[Guest]

That was a typo, but you knew that didn't you? Then again maybe not. In any case, it should read "And' not "Any". I don't bother to proofread my post, because it really isn't worth my time nor effort.

:posting:..+..:wine:..=...:loco:

[Guest]

:posting:..+..:wine:..=...:loco:

Your response to my post demonstrates than even idiots can be creative.

[Guest]

Your response to my post demonstrates than even idiots can be creative.

Definitely liberal speak. Why try to hide it? No big deal. I'm thick skinned, but you seem to be very sensitive. Perhaps you should give it a break until next year.

[Guest]

Definitely liberal speak. Why try to hide it? No big deal. I'm thick skinned, but you seem to be very sensitive. Perhaps you should give it a break until next year.

Perhaps you are right, I am a little thin skinned, and the term "idiot" was really uncalled for. I hope you accept my apology. The term "jerk" would have been more appropriate. Have a Happy New Year!

[Guest]

Perhaps you are right, I am a little thin skinned, and the term "idiot" was really uncalled for. I hope you accept my apology. The term "jerk" would have been more appropriate. Have a Happy New Year!

Actually, I was not offended by the term "idiot." I was sure that you meant that affectionately. I have also been called a "jerk" by friends, as well as other "terms" of affection, so no apology needed.

Have a Happy New Year, and remember.....don't drink and drive. And if you do, don't get caught. :beer3:

[Guest]

I guess liberalism truly IS a mental disorder

Irrelevant, however, since the House will soundly defeat this politically motivated excrement

BTW, were they referring to the contributions by muslims such as Osama bin Laden, Major Hassan, that lovely San Bernadino couple and numerous others. Or just the contributions of muslim clerics in radical mosques, or the financial contributions of Iran and others that support these barbarians.

It's a shame we have to have resolutions like this, it's all because of bigots like you. I will bet you say, you are a christian.

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It's a shame we have to have resolutions like this, it's all because of bigots like you. I will bet you say, you are a christian.

I don't know the poster, but it does not seem reasonable to call him a bigot. He/she did not mention anything that fit the definition, but maybe you know him/her personally.

To call someone that you don't agree with a Christian, also because you don't agree with him/her suggests that you are not a Christian. That's too bad, and hopefully you will someday see the light.

A resolution like this seems to be redundant, just like the idea of hate crime laws. Limiting the first amendment is not the American way. However, manners should be encouraged, not mandated. This resolution has no substance since it is only a suggestion and not a law. It appears to be nothing much more than a ploy to gain Democrat support for more votes. On the other hand, it is divisive in nature and sure to cause more animosity toward the left from the right. It may even cause friction from moderate Democrats that may feel insulted that the gov wants to coddle a religious culture that seems intent to eradicate infidels, namely us. Their intent to gain support from the Islamic community may backfire on them, causing them to lose more votes than gain.

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It's a shame we have to have resolutions like this, it's all because of bigots like you. I will bet you say, you are a christian.

I'm sorry, is there something about stating FACTS that fits the definition of bigotry? And why would you choose to use "Christian" as a derogatory term?
The only thing posted that comes close to "bigotry" is terming liberalism a mental disorder, but after reading your comments, I've moved that statement into the FACT column as well.

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I'm sorry, is there something about stating FACTS that fits the definition of bigotry? And why would you choose to use "Christian" as a derogatory term?
The only thing posted that comes close to "bigotry" is terming liberalism a mental disorder, but after reading your comments, I've moved that statement into the FACT column as well.

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A resolution like this seems to be redundant, just like the idea of hate crime laws. Limiting the first amendment is not the American way. However, manners should be encouraged, not mandated. It may even cause friction from moderate Democrats that may feel insulted that the gov wants to coddle a religious culture that seems intent to eradicate infidels, namely us. .


Do you think your minister would agree with your post and your idea that hate crime laws are against the First Amendment?

Ask her and tell us what she said.

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Do you think your minister would agree with your post and your idea that hate crime laws are against the First Amendment?

Ask her and tell us what she said.

?????? And the liberal has finally lost it altogether.

Ok, I'll bite. What minister? And why would a minister have anything to do with legislation restricting a Constitutional right? I said hate crime laws are redundant. Assault is Assault, whether it is upon a black, homosexual, or religious cult. Hate speech is not a crime. Bigoted speech is not a crime. If so, then the Black Lives Matter would have been arrested, as well as the Wall St cretins. Please respond as to why you feel that certain minority groups should get special treatment that the rest of us are not allowed.

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?????? And the liberal has finally lost it altogether.

Ok, I'll bite. What minister? And why would a minister have anything to do with legislation restricting a Constitutional right? I said hate crime laws are redundant. Assault is Assault, whether it is upon a black, homosexual, or religious cult. Hate speech is not a crime. Bigoted speech is not a crime. If so, then the Black Lives Matter would have been arrested, as well as the Wall St cretins. Please respond as to why you feel that certain minority groups should get special treatment that the rest of us are not allowed.

The speaking with your minister would be regarding your hate against groups of people who are different from yourself (blacks, other religions, lbgt, etc) - not to get her opinion of free speech. But you knew that.

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MAybe if the personal sniping at each other was set aside and a focus on the subject matter might turn into a discussion of issues.

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

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MAybe if the personal sniping at each other was set aside and a focus on the subject matter might turn into a discussion of issues.

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

That would be a first on the political forums

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The speaking with your minister would be regarding your hate against groups of people who are different from yourself (blacks, other religions, lbgt, etc) - not to get her opinion of free speech. But you knew that.

You seem to have a need for a minister more than I, but that's OK. You were probably responding to someone else's comment. It is amusing to see the tact that liberals use when someone doesn't agree with them. Of course that person must "hate" or be a "bigot." That is a pathetic loser way of desperation, because not everyone that disagrees with you has to be an extremist. And your attempt to charge another with labels like that is a sign that it is you that is the extremist.

I a pro-life = therefore I must be against women/war on women
I believe in marriage between man and woman, the Bible way = Therefore I must be a bigot.
I believe in secure borders and immigrant law enforcement = I must be a bigot

Sorry, but that doesn't win you any debates. That only proves desperation.

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Sorry, but while people should be tolerant and accepting of all religions, ethnicities, races and sexual preferences, YOU CANNOT LEGISLATE MORALITY. It is even more divisive than leaving people to their own conscience. There are many people who would be more than willing to accept a gay, or black, or Muslim neighbor---until they are told THEY HAVE TO, then they rebel against the very thing they did not mind in the first place.

History does not show this. So you think there should not be laws. because " It is even more divisive than leaving people to their own conscience"

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We....people....left to our own "devices" will usually do the right thing regardles of race, color or creed.

What gets must of us in an uproar in this day and age is the in your face-ness about some of these issues.

I for one am tired of hearing about the isloated cases that annoy somebody.
I am also tired of being told how to behave around certain folks.
I am especially tired of having the uninvolved sponsors, supporters and promoters of these folks telling us whay we should modify what we have done all our lives.

Take the :censored: spot light off the subject.....the microphone and camera off the isolated cases making them seem to be a very big deal when they are not.

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History does not show this. So you think there should not be laws. because " It is even more divisive than leaving people to their own conscience"

Amazing. That's your interpretation of my post? I'd explain it, but I would have no idea where to begin, other than suggest you re-read it and then look up non sequitur in the dictionary. (That's the big book with lots of words but no pictures) And btw, history bears this out, just about every time one groups tries to force their views on other by making "laws", whether they be by a king, an emperor, a dictator or an elected body. We learn this behavior as kids when we a told we HAVE to eat our veggies or HAVE to go to bed at a certain time. We continue it as teenagers when we are told we HAVE to be home by a certain time or we CAN'T hang out with certain friends. As adults (?) we are no different, and as a mob of "adults" we are worse.

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History does not show this. So you think there should not be laws. because " It is even more divisive than leaving people to their own conscience"

Another extreme opinion by the liberal. Yes, I am sure that the person you are responding to, meant that he did not want ANY LAWS. Geesh, like saying "you must hate conservatives because they don't want to pay for your contraception." Or the teenager that says her mother hates her because she won't let her go a party.

Did he/she say they didn't want ANY LAWS? He/she plainly said that there shouldn't be laws that legislate morality.

In my opinion, laws were meant to protect, not impose or direct a lifestyle. We do need a basic set of laws to protect us from others. Laws regarding a limit on free speech is a bit much.

In my opinion, we do not need any new hate crime laws. And assault is a violent crime and does not need to have the added caveat of the stipulation of bigotry on it. Motive is not necessary if it is obvious that an assault was perpetrated. Murder is murder and adding a bigotry tone to the motive does not make the crime any different. Taking a life is taking a life. If it is done with malice of any sort, it is still murder.

Hate speech is a Constitutional right, even if it is unmannerly. If you are going to impose laws against the use of hate speech upon Muslims, then you had better impose it equally against hate speech upon Christians. Otherwise, you are discriminating.

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H. Res 569 is Un-constitutional. The Government cannot promote or single out a particular Religious Group for specific legislation.

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H. Res 569 is Un-constitutional. The Government cannot promote or single out a particular Religious Group for specific legislation.

Sounds like a valid point, to me. I doubt they would get the votes to pass it anyway.

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Sounds like a valid point, to me. I doubt they would get the votes to pass it anyway.

No problem the commander in absentia will devise a way to do it....whether we like it or not!!

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No problem the commander in absentia will devise a way to do it....whether we like it or not!!

Another good point.

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In my opinion, we do not need any new hate crime laws. Taking a life is taking a life. If it is done with malice of any sort, it is still murder.

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Basically, like firing 15 shots into a person already laying wounded on the ground?

Basically, like taking a 45 minute "rough ride" in a steel police van for a 7 block trip - and the prisoner with feet shackled and handcuffed hands in back? Died of broken neck - wonder why?

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In my opinion, we do not need any new hate crime laws. Taking a life is taking a life. If it is done with malice of any sort, it is still murder.

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Basically, like firing 15 shots into a person already laying wounded on the ground?

Basically, like taking a 45 minute "rough ride" in a steel police van for a 7 block trip - and the prisoner with feet shackled and handcuffed hands in back? Died of broken neck - wonder why?

Like I said before, we don't need any new laws that are redundant. Hate laws are discriminatory in nature. If you assault someone, does it matter if you were doing it because he was a Muslim or gay or black? You committed a crime of violence, so adding to it for a particular motive does not matter. Same with murder. What difference does it make, if the person is dead, he's dead. All you do by labeling it a hate crime is to brew more hate and resentment. Is there any harsher crime for murder if a person did it because he hated someone due to their color, religion or sexual deviation?

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In my opinion, we do not need any new hate crime laws. Taking a life is taking a life. If it is done with malice of any sort, it is still murder.

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Basically, like firing 15 shots into a person already laying wounded on the ground?

Basically, like taking a 45 minute "rough ride" in a steel police van for a 7 block trip - and the prisoner with feet shackled and handcuffed hands in back? Died of broken neck - wonder why?

If the driver was black and the victim was black, how do you get a hate crime from it?

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That's the way I see it..... they want the Villages to be 100% right wing white people, like God intended.

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That's the way I see it..... they want the Villages to be 100% right wing white people, like God intended.

That's why there's garbage collection twice a week---so we can put out the liberal trash frequently

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that's the way i see it..... They want the villages to be 100% right wing white people, like god intended.

bait!!

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That's why there's garbage collection twice a week---so we can put out the liberal trash frequently

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That's the way I see it..... they want the Villages to be 100% right wing white people, like God intended.

Are you responding to someone's comment, or just making a point of stupidity? Either way, it's a radical statement, that appears to provoke someone to make comments on your stupidity. If you are as intelligent as you think you are, prove it.

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If the driver was black and the victim was black, how do you get a hate crime from it?

I get murder out of it. Legally, it is called depraved heart murder.

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I get murder out of it. Legally, it is called depraved heart murder.

It doesn't make it a "hate crime" as the poster wanted to indicate. And at most, it is manslaughter, because wanting to bounce him around a bit is not the same as wanting to kill him. Besides, if he was indeed an informant, what would their motive be to kill him?

Kind of hard to pin a "hate crime" on a black driver that kills a black victim, any way you look at it.

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When 1.6 billion Muslims are condemned for the actions of a few, where is the logic in that? Bigotry is alive and well in the Villages. Cheers! The problem is not Islam it is terrorism. But people who want to start a holy war don't seem to care.

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When 1.6 billion Muslims are condemned for the actions of a few, where is the logic in that? Bigotry is alive and well in the Villages. Cheers! The problem is not Islam it is terrorism. But people who want to start a holy war don't seem to care.

Is it a coincidence that all those who promote jihad BS and threats to kill us all and to take over the world and slaughter innocents are all muslims

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When 1.6 billion Muslims are condemned for the actions of a few, where is the logic in that? Bigotry is alive and well in the Villages. Cheers! The problem is not Islam it is terrorism. But people who want to start a holy war don't seem to care.

You consider protecting one's family to be bigotry. How do you think conservatives define "coward?" One word comes to mind and it begins with "L".