Is Uber available in The Villages?

[Boomer]

I don't know much about Uber, but it seems like TV would be a really good place for it.

Is Uber in TV? -- If not, why not?

[Barefoot]

I don't know much about Uber, but it seems like TV would be a really good place for it.
Is Uber in TV? -- If not, why not?

Here is a recent thread with 45 posts.
I agree, The Villages does seem like a very good place for Uber.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/uber-162535/?highlight=uber

[Boomer]

I am retrieving this thread because there is an article in the online news today about Uber and its potential in TV.

When I started this topic a couple of months ago, it did not get much response. (Thank you, Barefoot, for your post here, linking in another Uber thread.)

The 40-somethings and 50-somethings I talk to from the real world use Uber often, especially when they are in different cities on business. But they also use Uber sometimes when they are going into their own cities for games, etc.

And we all know that 60 is the new 40 and 70 is the new 50 so we might like Uber, too.

Anyway, after I saw the online news article just now, I thought I would go find this thread and see if I could drum up any discussion.

Actually, I am surprised there is no Uber in TV. It seems like it could be successful and we might have fellow Villagers who would be interested in being Uber drivers.

Thoughts?

Boomer

[HoosierPa]

I have used Uber and really like the simplicity of it. I have the App. on my phone and after seeing the post, I went to my APP and did a search and Uber App. says it is NOT available in in TV

[skyking]

I am surprised more Villagers have not signed on as drivers. All you need is a good car, insurance and a good driving record. You "sign on" when you have nothing else to do and the app forward assignments. No cash involved. Uber users have a credit card on file. The GPS calculates the fares and drivers tell me they get a check biweekly. Certainly pays more than most part time work around here.

[tuccillo]

A quick google would seem to indicate otherwise:

How Much do Uber Drivers Really Make? - Uber Driver Diaries (http://uberdriverdiaries.com/how-much-do-uber-drivers-really-make/)



I am surprised more Villagers have not signed on as drivers. All you need is a good car, insurance and a good driving record. You "sign on" when you have nothing else to do and the app forward assignments. No cash involved. Uber users have a credit card on file. The GPS calculates the fares and drivers tell me they get a check biweekly. Certainly pays more than most part time work around here.

[trueorange]

There is an ad on WVLG telling people how to sign up to be Uber drivers. Maybe when we get more drivers there will be more service opportunities here. It's probably a chicken and egg situation-- more drivers means more riders and more riders means more drivers. Wonder if there is a golf cart Uber?

[spring_chicken]

You are also taking a risk driving commercially with a personal insurance policy.
https://wallethub.com/edu/ridesharing-insurance/13884/

[bagboy]

Uber may sound like a great idea as a rider and/or a driver on the surface. And it does work for alot of people in mostly big city environments. But as tuccillo pointed out, it's not going to make a driver much money.
As a potential driver, one should really ask themselves "do I really want to pick up people I do not know, at a time and place that I normally wouldn't go to, and take them to a place that is unfamiliar to me?" Not to mention rude and belligerent riders, drunks, etc. And as a passenger, sticking your thumb out for a ride amounts to the same level of safety you'd get from an unknown Uber driver. And don't be fooled into thinking the drivers are fully vetted, and their vehicles thoroughly inspected for safety.
No, I dont think the average Villager needs Uber in their life. Too much risk, very little reward. Just my opinion.

[rubicon]

Excellent point spring chicken.

personal auto policies have an exclusion for when a personal auto is used as a taxi or livery vehicle.

Given Uber , et al are in a war with the taxi industry. This is going to get even uglier Uber, et al in my view have acted irresponsible given their business model which leaves customers so exposed. I suspect one way customers may be covered is with uninsured motorist coverage. Still

[tuccillo]

Well stated. In addition, it isn't clear to me that there is a demand for Uber in The Villages as the vast majority of the folks seem to have a car and a golf cart.

Uber may sound like a great idea as a rider and/or a driver on the surface. And it does work for alot of people in mostly big city environments. But as tuccillo pointed out, it's not going to make a driver much money.
As a potential driver, one should really ask themselves "do I really want to pick up people I do not know, at a time and place that I normally wouldn't go to, and take them to a place that is unfamiliar to me?" Not to mention rude and belligerent riders, drunks, etc. And as a passenger, sticking your thumb out for a ride amounts to the same level of safety you'd get from an unknown Uber driver. And don't be fooled into thinking the drivers are fully vetted, and their vehicles thoroughly inspected for safety.
No, I dont think the average Villager needs Uber in their life. Too much risk, very little reward. Just my opinion.

[skyking]

Well, I think you're right. This Uber thing will never catch on...either will the internet.

[Walter123]

Well, I think you're right. This Uber thing will never catch on...either will the internet.

LOL-------Good one!

[skyking]

When the end of the world comes, I want to be in Cincinnati because it's always 20 years behind the times.
Mark Twain.

Only because The Villages was not around in Mark Twain's lifetime.

[Boomer]

When the end of the world comes, I want to be in Cincinnati because it's always 20 years behind the times.
Mark Twain.

Only because The Villages was not around in Mark Twain's lifetime.

Hey, skyking,

When I last looked at this thread and saw your pre-TV location and the way the thread was going, I thought.....I must go back in there and quote Mark Twain on Cincinnati. But I got sidetracked and did not log on and so you beat me to it. :) And now, I just have to elaborate on your point.......

Although Mark Twain thought we were behind the times, I know that even Cincinnatians are out and about, Ubering hither and yon. Ubering with great joy and abandon. So maybe, oh maybe there is hope for TV.

I do not want to be an Uber driver. I just think there is a market here. The legal and financial angles pointed out by other posters are important though and would need to be considered and professional advice sought.

But if somebody decides to be an Uber driver, I would think they could pick and choose the what, when, where of rides, with common sense and safety always in mind. And I don't think they are required to haul lurching, loudmouth drunks.

I can think of a lot of circumstances where Villagers would be happy to see the Uberfication of TV:

The husbands sitting on the benches at stores. (Sometimes they are holding purses.)

The people who have to go to the eye doc and think that no matter what they say, those drops in your eyes do not make it easy to drive.

Somebody who has a ride to but not fro. Or fro but not to.

A day of lightning and thunder and an appointment and all you have is a golf cart.

Or maybe you want to get from Lake Deaton to Spanish Springs in a hurry but all you have is a golf cart.

And let's face it, there are people whose health or eyesight means they should not be driving anything, but they feel like they have to and push the limits of what is safe for themselves and for others.

(I could go on, but everybody has probably stopped reading anyway.)

I wish Villagers would not be painted with a wide brush. We've got it all here. And just because there are some who do not think Uber is for them, that does not mean that it would not work for others.

I think Uber could work here in TV. Vas you ever in Zinzinnati?

Boomer

[skyking]

Boomer, I agree. My experience with Uber has been far superior to that with taxis (elsewhere). I am confounded by the negativity

PS. Did you ever play football in Cinti? Your name sounds familiar.

[Boomer]

Boomer, I agree. My experience with Uber has been far superior to that with taxis (elsewhere). I am confounded by the negativity

PS. Did you ever play football in Cinti?

:)

I hear you, but I am a girl. Just one of millions and millions of us Boomers.

[tuccillo]

Not negativity, just the facts. You claimed that Uber would pay more than most part time jobs here but that doesn't appear to be the case based on the link I provided. I just don't see a market with so many cars and golf carts. It is too bad that you have the view point that differing opinions is synonymous with negativity. That in of itself is a fairly negative way to think.


Boomer, I agree. My experience with Uber has been far superior to that with taxis (elsewhere). I am confounded by the negativity

PS. Did you ever play football in Cinti?

[skyking]

Not negativity, just the facts. You claimed that Uber would pay more than most part time jobs here but that doesn't appear to be the case based on the link I provided. I just don't see a market with so many cars and golf carts. It is too bad that you have the view point that differing opinions is synonymous with negativity. That in of itself is a fairly negative way to think.
Do you know the pay for Community Watch or golf ambassador?

[tuccillo]

Yes, I do. Do you know what the likely average Uber pay per hour will be in The Villages after paying for Uber commissions, and car and insurance costs? There is also the possibility of damaging your car and/or personal injury. Uber has no "skin in the game". The drivers bear all the costs and risks for low pay. The Villages is not NY or SF so don't bother quoting numbers from cities that bear no resemblance to The Villages.

Do you know the pay for Community Watch or golf ambassador?

[dbussone]

Well, I think you're right. This Uber thing will never catch on...either will the internet.

I agree about the Internet. That's why I get the print edition of TOTV delivered daily. ::jester::

[outlaw]

A quick google would seem to indicate otherwise:

How Much do Uber Drivers Really Make? - Uber Driver Diaries (http://uberdriverdiaries.com/how-much-do-uber-drivers-really-make/)

I read the article (most of it, anyway). The article doesn't state how the calculations were made or what the assumptions were. For instance, what is the "hour" assumption. Is it the time you are available, which could include your personal shopping time, or TV watching time, etc? Or is it the time from when you are called to when you drop off your passenger? That could be a huge difference. This article does read a bit like a hit piece, imo.

[outlaw]

I am surprised someone in TV hasn't signed up for this. How would your auto insurance handle this in the event of a claim. Would they disallow it because you did not have a commercial license and were not insured as a commercial business?

[graciegirl]

I read the article (most of it, anyway). The article doesn't state how the calculations were made or what the assumptions were. For instance, what is the "hour" assumption. Is it the time you are available, which could include your personal shopping time, or TV watching time, etc? Or is it the time from when you are called to when you drop off your passenger? That could be a huge difference. This article does read a bit like a hit piece, imo.



What is a hit piece?

[biker1]

Not a hit piece at all - just a reset of the unrealistic claims by Uber. The author actually drives for Uber in NYC. When per hour calculations are done, it is typically from when the driver is notified to pick up a fare to when he drops them off.

I read the article (most of it, anyway). The article doesn't state how the calculations were made or what the assumptions were. For instance, what is the "hour" assumption. Is it the time you are available, which could include your personal shopping time, or TV watching time, etc? Or is it the time from when you are called to when you drop off your passenger? That could be a huge difference. This article does read a bit like a hit piece, imo.

[biker1]

A "hit piece" is a the nonsense label someone puts on an article when they don't agree with the author or, more likely, didn't understand what the author was really saying.

What is a hit piece?

[outlaw]

A "hit piece" is a the nonsense label someone puts on an article when they don't agree with the author or, more likely, didn't understand what the author was really saying.

I don't have a dog in this fight. Uber is a curiosity to me. Sorry to disappoint you, but that's what it reads like to me. That's why I posted "imo". Based on your definition, hit pieces don't exist, only in the mind of the reader. Somewhat naive, IMO.

[outlaw]

hit piece
an attempt to turn public opinion against someone/something through the appearance of objective reporting or editorializing.

[biker1]

Laughable. By your own admission you didn't even read the whole article but labeled it a "hit piece". My definition of "hit piece" was specific to your comment about the article. LOL ...

I don't have a dog in this fight. Uber is a curiosity to me. Sorry to disappoint you, but that's what it reads like to me. That's why I posted "imo". Based on your definition, hit pieces don't exist, only in the mind of the reader. Somewhat naive, IMO.

[outlaw]

Laughable. By your own admission you didn't even read the whole article but labeled it a "hit piece". My definition of "hit piece" was specific to your comment about the article. LOL ...

One does not necessarily have to read a complete article to gather enough evidence to determine its direction...unless, of course, you are a little slow. :wave:

[photo1902]

I never thought I'd see the day an "Outlaw" and a "Biker" go at it over journalism.

[outlaw]

I never thought I'd see the day an "Outlaw" and a "Biker" go at it over journalism.

We're intellectuals.

[biker1]

However, few people do hit jobs on their employer in a public forum - a small detail you might have missed: he drives for Uber.

One does not necessarily have to read a complete article to gather enough evidence to determine its direction...unless, of course, you are a little slow. :wave:

[biker1]

Nah, we just like to argue ;-)

We're intellectuals.

[johnboy]

Yes, Uber is now available in the Villages. There are only 3 drivers that I know of, and they are not always online. Once it becomes more popular with our Villagers there may be more drivers available. I use it in my travels and find it much easier and safer than a taxi.

[RickeyD]

A quick google would seem to indicate otherwise:

How Much do Uber Drivers Really Make? - Uber Driver Diaries (http://uberdriverdiaries.com/how-much-do-uber-drivers-really-make/)

I would never use my own vehicle to enrich the boss. Just another outlet for the permanently layed off to get screwed.

[biker1]

Spot on.

I would never use my own vehicle to enrich the boss. Just another outlet for the permanently layed off to get screwed.

[Barefoot]

Well, I think you're right. This Uber thing will never catch on...either will the internet.

I never thought I'd see the day an "Outlaw" and a "Biker" go at it over journalism.

:a20:

[dbussone]

Yes, Uber is now available in the Villages. There are only 3 drivers that I know of, and they are not always online. Once it becomes more popular with our Villagers there may be more drivers available. I use it in my travels and find it much easier and safer than a taxi.



I prefer to use my golf cart - in TV. And my auto to go anywhere else, except the airport.


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[dbussone]

We're intellectuals.



Glad to know there are at least 2 here!

::jester::



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[skyking]

I have used Uber several times since first seeing this thread. The drivers are all part time and have ranged from graduate students to massage therapists. All say they are happy with Uber and seem to like that they can "sign in" or off whenever they are available. They tell me that the only complaints come from cab drivers. Uber is now a 62 billion dollar company. They are doing something right.

[Boomer]

I have used Uber several times since first seeing this thread. The drivers are all part time and have ranged from graduate students to massage therapists. All say they are happy with Uber and seem to like that they can "sign in" or off whenever they are available. They tell me that the only complaints come from cab drivers. Uber is now a 62 billion dollar company. They are doing something right.


That's an interesting number you have there. Made me wonder if there will be an IPO?

[skyking]

That's an interesting number you have there. Made me wonder if there will be an IPO?

The $68B Uber IPO Is DEFINITELY Not Worth the Wait | InvestorPlace (http://investorplace.com/ipo-playbook/uber-ipo-valuation/#.V23lm6ApDqA)

[Boomer]

skyking,

I think the article you linked is probably right. That number is a stunner which was not making sense to me either.

As much as the idea of Uber intrigues me, I would not be an investor. It's a concept, not a product. It seems like it would be hard to keep stockholders happy with investing in something so wide open to competition from variations on a theme.

But I really like the Uber concept for the sake of the concept itself. Earlier in this thread, I posted a little list of a few reasons I think it could be helpful and practical to have Uber available to Villagers who might need or like another choice for transportation.

[Nucky]

I have a neighbor where I just moved from who drives for Uber & Lyft. Uber & Lyft weaken the local Taxi company then the Uber & Lyft drivers realize that the income they are told is possible doesn't factor in EXPENSES which are HUUGGHHH and they quit and the Taxi Company is struggling now and people are upset because of poor service. I would crawl before I would use either. Give me the old Taxi Company anytime. Both companies are blood suckers but people are desperate nowadays and are willing to give it a shot. Lets see what happens.

[biker1]

Uber is an interesting company as they effectively have no capital assets. The drivers must use their own assets (their car) and bear the cost of the depreciation of those assets. When all expenses are factored in (depreciation, maintenance, gas, car washes, repairs, etc.), it is apparently difficult to make much money driving for Uber, or any of the other similar companies. There may be isolated areas where the exception is possible.


I have used Uber several times since first seeing this thread. The drivers are all part time and have ranged from graduate students to massage therapists. All say they are happy with Uber and seem to like that they can "sign in" or off whenever they are available. They tell me that the only complaints come from cab drivers. Uber is now a 62 billion dollar company. They are doing something right.

[dotti105]

Uber Pros:
1. You see a photo of driver and passenger when the text is sent. You can refuse said driver/passenger.
2. No $ changes hands. Fee is calculated ahead of time and paid at destination via the app. Tips can be added via the app. Therefore drivers are not at risk of a hold up.
3. Passenger rates the driver, driver rates the passenger. Those with several bad rating have their app disabled.
(Rude, unsafe drivers or drunk, obnoxious passengers)
4. You know who is picking you up, as a passenger, and what type of car. The driver know who they are picking up and the destination, before accepting the call.
5. I have never heard anyone say anything negative about an Uber transaction. Some drivers offer mints, chilled water bottles to their fares. It's all about ratings.
6. When on the app, and calling for a ride, you see where each driver is in your area and info about them. Same for the driver. Full disclosure, thus you can accept or reject a driver/fare.

I've been in some very scary taxis traveling alone. As a woman traveling alone I would feel much safer using Uber than a taxi any day!!

[Junebugs]

I just signed on to be an Uber Driver in TV!-- just for the summer. I'm an elementary school teacher in South Florida (part time villager) and I'm here for the summer break. I haven't had a raise since I started teaching but I'm not complaining. I LOVE being a teacher. I love my students and the opportunity to make a lasting difference in this world. There is nothing so special as being important to a child. When they come in with a note they have written or a picture they drew just for me, I realize again how blessed I am. The chance to make a little extra money over the break is great for me. I don't want to derail your debate about the effects of Uber on the American economy, just wanted to share a personal take on the issue. :)
Bernadette

[skyking]

I just signed on to be an Uber Driver in TV!-- just for the summer. I'm an elementary school teacher in South Florida (part time villager) and I'm here for the summer break. I haven't had a raise since I started teaching but I'm not complaining. I LOVE being a teacher. I love my students and the opportunity to make a lasting difference in this world. There is nothing so special as being important to a child. When they come in with a note they have written or a picture they drew just for me, I realize again how blessed I am. The chance to make a little extra money over the break is great for me. I don't want to derail your debate about the effects of Uber on the American economy, just wanted to share a personal take on the issue. :)
Bernadette

Great to see Bernadette and thanks for helping educate the next generation.

[dbussone]

Duplicate post.

[Nucky]

I feel bad for the Taxi company I see around...clean cars & respectable drivers. If Uber was so good all the Taxi drivers would flee immediately for the dream of owning their own company. As stated when you add all the expenses for running a car and the insurance the margin is very skinny in this area. Not enough fares to make it work $$.

[dotti105]

Bernadette, we wish you much success. Thanks so much for choosing to teach. Such an important job! Teachers are always underpaid for the critical job of molding our future leaders. You are greatly appreciated!!

[graciegirl]

Bernadette, we wish you much success. Thanks so much for choosing to teach. Such an important job! Teachers are always underpaid for the critical job of molding our future leaders. You are greatly appreciated!!

According to Glass Ceiling, nationally, teachers average starting pay without benefits is $45K annually. That is for a four year degree and for nine months work.

I know that the influence of a good teacher is priceless.

[Fraugoofy]

According to Glass Ceiling, nationally, teachers average starting pay without benefits is $45K annually. That is for a four year degree and for nine months work.

I know that the influence of a good teacher is priceless.
And according to the same website, Glass Ceiling, a manager at McDonald's averages $42,641 a year with no education beyond high school. Earning a college degree from start to finish in four years is a minimum investment of $50,000. Those college loans take a long time to pay back!

I admire teachers and the work they do...

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[Junebugs]

After 8 years of teaching, I'm still at the same starting salary of $39,000. I only earned a supplemental pay of $3,600 more when I finished my master's degree. The union and the school board keep arguing about raises but nothing seems to happen. I'm not complaining. I wish we were paid more but I'd trade that in a heartbeat for more teaching and less testing. I hate that kids are categorized by their FSA scores. "He's a 1, she's a 4."They are so much more than that …. but that's a different topic!

[RickeyD]

After 8 years of teaching, I'm still at the same starting salary of $39,000. I only earned a supplemental pay of $3,600 more when I finished my master's degree. The union and the school board keep arguing about raises but nothing seems to happen. I'm not complaining. I wish we were paid more but I'd trade that in a heartbeat for more teaching and less testing. I hate that kids are categorized by their FSA scores. "He's a 1, she's a 4."They are so much more than that �. but that's a different topic!

Time for you people to get another union. Sounds like their in bed with the school board. :oops:

[Proscoe]

I signed on as a driver but there is no UBER in the villages. UBER keeps on sending me to Gainesville but that is too far/

[johnboy]

As a uber user and driver I find the uber much easier to use, more timely and better vehicles. The insurance is covered by the company, and it's not a job to make a living off, especially in our area, just a past time to do something and meet interesting people. For Dr. visits, going to the hospital to visit someone, or going from one end of the Villages to the other, it is very easy to use. Most people don't have the app in their phone so they don't know how to use it. Once it becomes more widely used it will catch on.

[jbdlfan]

I must agree about the benefit of using Uber. We use it often when we travel and it is outstanding. We have had conversations with drivers about why they do it and the answers have varied. As far as money is concerned, some said it paid their car payment and insurance while others said they made between $1000-1500 a month.

(never met a teacher that only worked nine months out of the year)

[biker1]

I would assume the numbers they quoted were not net after expenses such as depreciation on their car, gas, maintenance, and repairs.

I must agree about the benefit of using Uber. We use it often when we travel and it is outstanding. We have had conversations with drivers about why they do it and the answers have varied. As far as money is concerned, some said it paid their car payment and insurance while others said they made between $1000-1500 a month.

(never met a teacher that only worked nine months out of the year)

[Caribqueen]

I began using Uber several years ago when I was unable to find an available cab in Asheville, and my daughter immediately found several Uber drivers in the area with her app. Within minutes we were on our way; furthermore, we were able to select a minivan that could accommodate our group. I've been using Uber extensively ever since when traveling. I don't like to over-generalize, but every driver has been courteous and friendly and can provide wonderful conversation. In WPB I had a deaf driver (this was noted on the app) and it so happened that we got stuck in rush hour traffic on I-95; the fare never changed, of course, so I did tip him; he was so grateful. I have had some horrible cab rides in Atlanta (surly drivers, smelly, dirty cars) as well as cabs that take 45 minutes to arrive or just don't show up at all, but I am always impressed with the quality of the Uber rides. Drivers always say it's just a way to make some extra money during their down times, whenever they feel like it.

[skyking]

I began using Uber several years ago when I was unable to find an available cab in Asheville, and my daughter immediately found several Uber drivers in the area with her app. Within minutes we were on our way; furthermore, we were able to select a minivan that could accommodate our group. I've been using Uber extensively ever since when traveling. I don't like to over-generalize, but every driver has been courteous and friendly and can provide wonderful conversation. In WPB I had a deaf driver (this was noted on the app) and it so happened that we got stuck in rush hour traffic on I-95; the fare never changed, of course, so I did tip him; he was so grateful. I have had some horrible cab rides in Atlanta (surly drivers, smelly, dirty cars) as well as cabs that take 45 minutes to arrive or just don't show up at all, but I am always impressed with the quality of the Uber rides. Drivers always say it's just a way to make some extra money during their down times, whenever they feel like it.

I like the map that pops up tracking the driver as he/she is driving to your location. You know exactly when they will arrive.

[MikeyBoo54]

I have a nephew who drives for Uber in a small town in Central Illinois. He doesn't do it as his primary source of income bit he tells me it provides some nice spending money. His take on the expenses is that those costs are going to occur anyway. Depreciation, gas, maintenance, and upkeep are a constant changed only by rate of use. He logs on the rate of use. He logs on when it is convenient and he wants to. His determination is the reward is greater than the costs for him.

[johnboy]

Yes Uber is now available in The Villages. They are not always online, but as it becomes more known, there will be more drivers.

[Avista]

Uber Pros:
1. You see a photo of driver and passenger when the text is sent. You can refuse said driver/passenger.
2. No $ changes hands. Fee is calculated ahead of time and paid at destination via the app. Tips can be added via the app. Therefore drivers are not at risk of a hold up.
3. Passenger rates the driver, driver rates the passenger. Those with several bad rating have their app disabled.
(Rude, unsafe drivers or drunk, obnoxious passengers)
4. You know who is picking you up, as a passenger, and what type of car. The driver know who they are picking up and the destination, before accepting the call.
5. I have never heard anyone say anything negative about an Uber transaction. Some drivers offer mints, chilled water bottles to their fares. It's all about ratings.


6. When on the app, and calling for a ride, you see where each driver is in your area and info about them. Same for the driver. Full disclosure, thus you can accept or reject a driver/fare.

I've been in some very scary taxis traveling alone. As a woman


traveling alone I would feel much safer using Uber than a taxi any day!!

I just returned from Chicago. Used Uber all,week. I thought they were great!

[skyking]

I found this article about Uber. It seems pretty objective.

How to Make Money Driving for Uber - The Simple Dollar (http://www.thesimpledollar.com/how-to-make-money-driving-for-uber/)

[villagetinker]

There is an individual advertising in the classified as an uber driver with a cost of $15. This is not how I understand the service works.

[Gpsma]

The only major complaint i have about Uber is that the driver can cancel the trip anytime until they pick you up.
This probably isnt a big issue unless you live in a big metropolitan area. I have had it happen twice when demand and traffic were heavy.

[skyking]

See below.

[skyking]

There is an individual advertising in the classified as an uber driver with a cost of $15. This is not how I understand the service works.

Uber operates strictly through the Uber app on your smartphone. Could be a scam.