Handicap parking

[alwann]

I wonder what the law or regulations say about how many disabled parking spaces must be allocated for public places.

More to the point, do age-qualified communities get more or the same number as every place else?

Surely there are not enough of them in The Villages. They're all gone whenever my spouse and I go out -- and this has been the case even before the seasonal people arrived.

Spouse suffered a foot injury and has been hobbled for a few months. Before this happened, I'd never noticed the shortage of disabled parking spots. Heck, it seems only two are allocated in the squares. The rest of them are way back behind buildings some where and not convenient, even if you can find an empty one. We make do, but it's still frustrating.

[cquick]

Our son is in a wheelchair, and in the wintertime, we very rarely get a "handicap parking spot". We just walk a little farther. I will add that we are lucky, because we don't need to use the ramp van all the time. If we go in our car, we fold the wheelchair in the back and help him get into it from the car.

[rjm1cc]

Try Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0500-0599/0553/Sections/0553.5041.html)

I think more spaces can be provided and still be in compliance with the law.

[CWGUY]

I wonder what the law or regulations say about how many disabled parking spaces must be allocated for public places.

More to the point, do age-qualified communities get more or the same number as every place else?

Surely there are not enough of them in The Villages. They're all gone whenever my spouse and I go out -- and this has been the case even before the seasonal people arrived.

Spouse suffered a foot injury and has been hobbled for a few months. Before this happened, I'd never noticed the shortage of disabled parking spots. Heck, it seems only two are allocated in the squares. The rest of them are way back behind buildings some where and not convenient, even if you can find an empty one. We make do, but it's still frustrating.

:read: I would think it is all spelled out in the "ADA"

[KeepingItReal]

I wonder what the law or regulations say about how many disabled parking spaces must be allocated for public places.

More to the point, do age-qualified communities get more or the same number as every place else?

Surely there are not enough of them in The Villages. They're all gone whenever my spouse and I go out -- and this has been the case even before the seasonal people arrived.

Spouse suffered a foot injury and has been hobbled for a few months. Before this happened, I'd never noticed the shortage of disabled parking spots. Heck, it seems only two are allocated in the squares. The rest of them are way back behind buildings some where and not convenient, even if you can find an empty one. We make do, but it's still frustrating.

There can never be enough, those that really don't need them will take them all no matter how many there are leaving none for those that really do require them such as those with wheelchairs or crutches. Good to think about this once injury has healed. Not enough REAL enforcement is the problem.

[Fred R]

The specifics are spelled out in the Americans With Disability Act. The law applies to all states and political subdivisions, with certain exceptions of course.

[justjim]

There can never be enough, those that really don't need them will take them all no matter how many there are leaving none for those that really do require them such as those with wheelchairs or crutches. Good to think about this once injury has healed. Not enough REAL enforcement is the problem.

One place where there was plenty was at church this morning. Oh, in case you were wondering, it was NCUMC and the 9:15 service where there was close to 900 in the middle service. We too never paid much attention to handicap parking until wife had a knee replacement. I totally agree there are too few spaces around the Squares.

[rjm1cc]

Hopefully those that are not qualified to park in the spaces do not.

[golfing eagles]

Hopefully those that are not qualified to park in the spaces do not.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Yes, and I saw a unicorn yesterday and got a quarter from the tooth fairy.

(OMG, I'm dating myself---kids today probably get $100)

[tomwed]

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Yes, and I saw a unicorn yesterday and got a quarter from the tooth fairy.

(OMG, I'm dating myself---kids today probably get $100)
Is it easy to get handicapped tags? Maybe that's why there aren't enough spots. What percentage of the population could potentially get handicapped tags? Maybe more drop-off spots would be more effective? There was a thread about picking up groceries by parking in front of the store.

[spring_chicken]

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Yes, and I saw a unicorn yesterday and got a quarter from the tooth fairy.

(OMG, I'm dating myself---kids today probably get $100)

Go to any softball field any weekday. Handicap spaces are all taken by people who grab their bag out of the trunk and go play softball. Even happens at track practice. Handicap spaces taken by people running on the track for an hour.

[asianthree]

Is it easy to get handicapped tags? Maybe that's why there aren't enough spots. What percentage of the population could potentially get handicapped tags? Maybe more drop-off spots would be more effective? There was a thread about picking up groceries by parking in front of the store.

I know those who have a permit because of fibromyalgia. Then there are those who are symptomatic and still try to walk with out a wheel chair. I never question a handicap sticker, since I have no idea what tHeir handicap. But in some states you can not park in a space if the other is not handicap. You must drop off and park in a regular space

[tomwed]

I know those who have a permit because of fibromyalgia. Then there are those who are symptomatic and still try to walk with out a wheel chair. I never question a handicap sticker, since I have no idea what tHeir handicap. But in some states you can not park in a space if the other is not handicap. You must drop off and park in a regular space
I'm not judging either. I didn't know about the drop off states. It sounds fair.

[dbussone]

Is it easy to get handicapped tags? Maybe that's why there aren't enough spots. What percentage of the population could potentially get handicapped tags? Maybe more drop-off spots would be more effective? There was a thread about picking up groceries by parking in front of the store.


You must pick a special form from the County. Then your doctor must sign and certify your need. The County will then issue 2 blue hanging tags, or a license plate for your car. A special red hanging tag is available for a short period when a temporary ailment is involved. I know the blue tags have an expiration date of four years, and must be certified on a continuing basis. I don't know about the term for the license plates, if any.

My wife elected to use the blue tag rather than a license plate. She was concerned about being too visible a target.

[spring_chicken]

Sorry, but it's very easy to get a handicap tag when you don't need it. There are unscrupulous doctors everywhere. I've heard softball players brag about it when everyone else is walking to their legally parked car. One even gave the name of 2 doctors who will help you get one.

[Mikeod]

Sorry, but it's very easy to get a handicap tag when you don't need it. There are unscrupulous doctors everywhere. I've heard softball players brag about it when everyone else is walking to their legally parked car. One even gave the name of 2 doctors who will help you get one. Why is the doctor unscrupulous? What about unscrupulous patients trying to get a tag when they don't need it? Takes two to tango. Just another example of the "all about me" attitude some people possess. You see it on the roads, on the golf courses, at the squares, and elsewhere.

[spring_chicken]

Why is the doctor unscrupulous? What about unscrupulous patients trying to get a tag when they don't need it? Takes two to tango. Just another example of the "all about me" attitude some people possess. You see it on the roads, on the golf courses, at the squares, and elsewhere.

Why is the doctor unscrupolous? When he says to a patient "you need to say x, y, and z to me and I'll get you the tag, knowing that x, y, and z aren't true.
Not sure why you think one profession is free from dishonest practice, but it is just as full of is as any other.

Some people have a real classicism issue. I know you'd love to believe that anyone not wearing a hoody that puts an MD behind their name is pure as the driven snow. But it simply isn't true.

[Topspinmo]

IMO handicapped parking spaces should be for people who are paralyzed, confined to wheelchairs, legs missing, or on crutches. The other day I seen guy get out of new vette and walk briskly into the store. Heck, I couldn't get out of go cart and sprint to the store without stretching my back first. But, opinion are are like && everybody got them?

[spring_chicken]

IMO handicapped parking spaces should be for people who are paralyzed, confined to wheelchairs, legs missing, or on crutches. The other day I seen guy get out of new vette and walk briskly into the store. Heck, I couldn't get out of go cart and sprint to the store without stretching my back first. But, opinion are are like && everybody got them?

Same as the people who hop out and go play softball, or run around the track for an hour. Some will only believe it's a generation other than theirs. Unfortunately, their generation has just as many looking for a free ride and a payday. Some of us just don't stick our heads in the sand.

[JoMar]

Everybody feel better now....:)

[golfing eagles]

Why is the doctor unscrupolous? When he says to a patient "you need to say x, y, and z to me and I'll get you the tag, knowing that x, y, and z aren't true.
Not sure why you think one profession is free from dishonest practice, but it is just as full of is as any other.

Some people have a real classicism issue. I know you'd love to believe that anyone not wearing a hoody that puts an MD behind their name is pure as the driven snow. But it simply isn't true.

And just WHAT do you think the doctor gets out of it???? The joy of filling out yet another form?????.. Sorry, but I'll take the MD over a hoodie any day.

[BobnBev]

I was at Winn-Dixie this morning at LSL. Watched a NY registered car pull into a handicapped space, on an angle, blocking the walkway. The bimbo, about 46, 5'11" wearing skin tight jeans and stiletto heel boots, looked like a streetwalker from NYC, put the HP placard on mirror and went bouncing into WD.
When she came out i said to her, "Nice parking job". She said she didn't want to hit the car in the next space. The car was nowhere near the line. I told her if she couldn't park in that big a space, she shouldn't be driving.

I'm not one to question whether one is disabled or not, but c'mon.......

I have pictures of this on my cell phone, including the NY reg, but I don't know how to post them on here.

Rant over.:police:

[golfing eagles]

Good thing for you she didn't have a long gun and a short temper!

[RickeyD]

I was at Winn-Dixie this morning at LSL. Watched a NY registered car pull into a handicapped space, on an angle, blocking the walkway. The bimbo, about 46, 5'11" wearing skin tight jeans and stiletto heel boots, looked like a streetwalker from NYC, put the HP placard on mirror and went bouncing into WD.

When she came out i said to her, "Nice parking job". She said she didn't want to hit the car in the next space. The car was nowhere near the line. I told her if she couldn't park in that big a space, she shouldn't be driving.



I'm not one to question whether one is disabled or not, but c'mon.......



I have pictures of this on my cell phone, including the NY reg, but I don't know how to post them on here.



Rant over.:police:


Quite a story ! If she displayed a handicapped sticker why would you want to post her tag number ???

[RickeyD]

Good thing for you she didn't have a long gun and a short temper!


Or a short knife and a big attitude.

[Bogie Shooter]

How was anybody impacted by the way she parked?

[graciegirl]

And just WHAT do you think the doctor gets out of it???? The joy of filling out yet another form?????.. Sorry, but I'll take the MD over a hoodie any day.



Me too. The percentage of decent folks with M.D. after their names if far greater than those with hoodies.


Why? Because I said so. I think I am guilty of classism. I will look it up. I am not guilty of ageism though.

[spring_chicken]

I realize that reading comprehension is hard, but nobody suggested you go a "hoodie" for medical care. Although my doctor does wear a hoodie when it's cold, so I should probably find another one.

[kcrazorbackfan]

I wonder what the law or regulations say about how many disabled parking spaces must be allocated for public places.

More to the point, do age-qualified communities get more or the same number as every place else?

Surely there are not enough of them in The Villages. They're all gone whenever my spouse and I go out -- and this has been the case even before the seasonal people arrived.

Spouse suffered a foot injury and has been hobbled for a few months. Before this happened, I'd never noticed the shortage of disabled parking spots. Heck, it seems only two are allocated in the squares. The rest of them are way back behind buildings some where and not convenient, even if you can find an empty one. We make do, but it's still frustrating.

One of the reasons there is not enough is because I see GOLFCARTS WITH R/A TAGS parked right in the middle of handicap parking spots. HAVING AN R/A TAG DOES NOT QUALIFY YOU TO PARK IN A HANDICAP SPOT - QUIT ACTING PRIVELGED/ENTITLED/STUPID!

[PennBF]

I have a Disability tag and although it is hard to walk if I pull in and there are handicap spots and only one is available I don't take it as someone is probably worse off than myself. Drivers should be considerate and be aware that some have problems that are worse than yours so give them a little thought. I have a problem when someone parks in a handicap spot, gets out of the car and run into a store, etc. They should be ashamed of their selves. :(

[CFrance]

One of the reasons there is not enough is because I see GOLFCARTS WITH R/A TAGS parked right in the middle of handicap parking spots. HAVING AN R/A TAG DOES NOT QUALIFY YOU TO PARK IN A HANDICAP SPOT - QUIT ACTING PRIVELGED/ENTITLED/STUPID!
What's an R/A tag?

[BobnBev]

Good thing for you she didn't have a long gun and a short temper!

Actually, it's a good thing for her.

[BobnBev]

Quite a story ! If she displayed a handicapped sticker why would you want to post her tag number ???

Because, obviously, she wasn't handicapped. She is most likely living with her elderly parents.

[BobnBev]

How was anybody impacted by the way she parked?

So then, what you're saying it's OK to break the law, if doing so, doesn't bother or impact anyone else. Sad way to look at things, IMHO.

[scarecrow1]

You are way out of touch. A handicap isn't always visible. I have MD and you wouldn't know it if I had long pants on you couldn't see my braces you would think when I get out of my Vett you would probably say the same thing about me. As for parking in the villages they are definitely in violation of the ADA as far as the number and placing of handicap spacing but they don't care. Some good retired lawyer could make a lot of money sueing them in a class action suit. This is one of the reasons I sold my house and moved out. Haven't missed it a bit.....🙈🙉🙊

[golfing eagles]

another satisfied customer.......

[dbussone]

What's an R/A tag?


It's a type of wrap you can put on your golf cart. It signifies to the ambassadors that you have permission to do some things with your golf cart that others may not. For example, get closer to the green with your cart than is typically allowed. R/A = reasonable accommodation. Most people I know who have one also qualify for a handicap tag - but they are not interchangeable.

[dbussone]

You are way out of touch. A handicap isn't always visible. I have MD and you wouldn't know it if I had long pants on you couldn't see my braces you would think when I get out of my Vett you would probably say the same thing about me. As for parking in the villages they are definitely in violation of the ADA as far as the number and placing of handicap spacing but they don't care. Some good retired lawyer could make a lot of money sueing them in a class action suit. This is one of the reasons I sold my house and moved out. Haven't missed it a bit.....[emoji85][emoji86][emoji87]


I have no idea what the ADA requirements for handicap spaces are would you please tell me?

[Topspinmo]

You are way out of touch. A handicap isn't always visible. I have MD and you wouldn't know it if I had long pants on you couldn't see my braces you would think when I get out of my Vett you would probably say the same thing about me. As for parking in the villages they are definitely in violation of the ADA as far as the number and placing of handicap spacing but they don't care. Some good retired lawyer could make a lot of money sueing them in a class action suit. This is one of the reasons I sold my house and moved out. Haven't missed it a bit.....🙈🙉🙊

Good more space for those who need it.

[outlaw]

And just WHAT do you think the doctor gets out of it???? The joy of filling out yet another form?????.. Sorry, but I'll take the MD over a hoodie any day.

Hey Doc, no one is saying all doctors are complicit in this fraud. But there are enough. What does a doctor get out of this? An office visit charge and maybe a couple procedure codes? Have you heard of the medicare fraud in south florida? Millions of dollars to a single doctor! I think we had one in TV recently. Times have changed. No more Dr Welbys.

[outlaw]

A long time ago, there was a similar thread. I posted my layman's criteria for HC placard: on crutches, in a wheelchair, or dragging an oxygen tank behind. I was skewered. Let's face it. In the old days, that is who the HC parking spaces were meant for. Now, if your feet hurt when you walk, you get a HC placard. If you're 100# overweight, and your knees hurt, you get a HC placard. If you tell your doctor your back really hurts when you walk, you get a HC placard. That's why there aren't empty HC parking spaces! I have watched men play basketball after parking with a HC placard. I have watched people carrying and loading a large cooler full of ice into the back of a truck(with the HC placard) parked in a HC slot. Sure there are illnesses that are "invisible", and some may require a HC placard. But there is soooo much fraud in the system. At the rate we are going, Walmart is going to start marking the two remaining parking spaces for "anyone". All the unmarked spaces will be HC only.

[golfing eagles]

Hey Doc, no one is saying all doctors are complicit in this fraud. But there are enough. What does a doctor get out of this? An office visit charge and maybe a couple procedure codes? Have you heard of the medicare fraud in south florida? Millions of dollars to a single doctor! I think we had one in TV recently. Times have changed. No more Dr Welbys.

Really? Care to provide statistics on how many?
I've never had anyone make an appointment for the sole purpose of getting a handicapped sticker, it's always a "by the way". Even if they did, you get what, a 99213 office visit, big deal. What "procedure codes" do you think would be involved? Medicare fraud is a whole different animal, the majority of which occurs in California, Texas and Florida, but those criminals are not making millions on handicap placards.

A long time ago, there was a similar thread. I posted my layman's criteria for HC placard: on crutches, in a wheelchair, or dragging an oxygen tank behind. I was skewered. Let's face it. In the old days, that is who the HC parking spaces were meant for. Now, if your feet hurt when you walk, you get a HC placard. If you're 100# overweight, and your knees hurt, you get a HC placard. If you tell your doctor your back really hurts when you walk, you get a HC placard. That's why there aren't empty HC parking spaces! I have watched men play basketball after parking with a HC placard. I have watched people carrying and loading a large cooler full of ice into the back of a truck(with the HC placard) parked in a HC slot. Sure there are illnesses that are "invisible", and some may require a HC placard. But there is soooo much fraud in the system. At the rate we are going, Walmart is going to start marking the two remaining parking spaces for "anyone". All the unmarked spaces will be HC only.

Really? How much? Medicare estimates 6-8 billion/year--in a 2.7 trillion/year health care industry---I'm surprised it isn't a lot more, even 5% would be 135 billion! Compare this with government waste and fraud. This is nothing but criminal activity that should be prosecuted, unfortunately they spend more $$ trying to find it than it is worth.

A "long time ago", I posted the LEGAL criteria for a handicapped placard--fortunately for those that qualify it has nothing to do with YOUR personal "layman's criteria" Can a patient intent on fraudulently obtaining a placard do so---of course, but that's on them. Can I imagine a doctor feeding them the words--maybe, but not often---trust me , we have much better things to do. Can I imagine the doctor giving in to them just to shut them up--probably the #1 reason someone can get something they don't otherwise deserve. Have I seen any ads in the yellow pages for "Come get your fraudulent handicap placard here" No, have you?

On one of those previous threads, there was a poster who felt he was equally qualified to determine eligibility for a handicapped placard just by observing someone from a distance---because he was "smart" and had "life experience" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: says it all. I can't even do that, remember: a) book by its cover and b) be thankful YOU don't need one.

[Bogie Shooter]

You are way out of touch. A handicap isn't always visible. I have MD and you wouldn't know it if I had long pants on you couldn't see my braces you would think when I get out of my Vett you would probably say the same thing about me. As for parking in the villages they are definitely in violation of the ADA as far as the number and placing of handicap spacing but they don't care. Some good retired lawyer could make a lot of money sueing them in a class action suit. This is one of the reasons I sold my house and moved out. Haven't missed it a bit.....🙈🙉🙊

Just wondering why you waste your time reading TOTV if you sold your house and moved out?
BTW what do you base your statement the Villages "is in violation"?

[PennBF]

I agree it was offensive to question the H/C need for a person with such a problem. Also you can't tell the person who has heart problems and has very restricted walking, or the person with a leg problem that prevents them from walking too much and so on. It is pretty bad to assert the definitions of those that can use H/C spaces. We should be happy to be healthy enough to use non H/C spaces and respect those that have to. It is not necessary to respond to this note as I really don't care what others think. This is my opinion and I have approved it.:spoken:

[tomwed]

be thankful YOU don't need one.
That my friend should be the take-away lesson.
[and I would like to see more drop-off points to help those who need help]

[BobnBev]

You are way out of touch. A handicap isn't always visible. I have MD and you wouldn't know it if I had long pants on you couldn't see my braces you would think when I get out of my Vett you would probably say the same thing about me. As for parking in the villages they are definitely in violation of the ADA as far as the number and placing of handicap spacing but they don't care. Some good retired lawyer could make a lot of money sueing them in a class action suit. This is one of the reasons I sold my house and moved out. Haven't missed it a bit.....🙈🙉🙊

If you really read my post, I said she had on skin tight jeans and stiletto heeled
boots and went bouncing into WD. Not my idea of a Mobility Handicapped person.

[golfing eagles]

If you really read my post, I said she had on skin tight jeans and stiletto heeled
boots and went bouncing into WD. Not my idea of a Mobility Handicapped person.

And maybe she has a VSD with significant shunting so that she desaturates O2 to 68% at 45 feet of walking and has to stop for a minute or else turn blue and pass out. Oh, I forgot, there is at least one person who feels qualified to diagnose that at a glance from 100 feet away because he has "life experience". Glad it's not you. Still can't judge a book by its cover.

[looneycat]

Sorry, but it's very easy to get a handicap tag when you don't need it. There are unscrupulous doctors everywhere. I've heard softball players brag about it when everyone else is walking to their legally parked car. One even gave the name of 2 doctors who will help you get one.

no, there are unscrupulous people who conspire to get a privilege they don't need so that they can screw someone who does. the doctor didn't ask them, they asked the doctor.

[golfing eagles]

no, there are unscrupulous people who conspire to get a privilege they don't need so that they can screw someone who does. the doctor didn't ask them, they asked the doctor.

:agree::agree::agree::agree:

I even had one completely healthy, physically active, no significant health or mobility issues patient do exactly that. When I asked why he would even make such a request, his reply was "If you don't ask, you don't get". And that was an otherwise reasonable individual that I knew for 25 years. I can only imagine the requests Florida doctors get.

[looneycat]

if you want the perspective of someone who is often wheelchair bound, TV is terrible for the handicapped. Let's start at the curb. In the long streets of any square the only cutouts for wheelchairs are at the ends of the blocks...nothing along the entire length. The curbs themselves are high and sharp edged making it very difficult for someone with a walker to 'hop up' on. The sidewalks themselves are slanted downward to the curbs for drainage but awful for a manual wheelchair as you are constantly rolling towards the gutter. and then there are all the 'textured' walks...a nightmare for walkers, crutches and wheelchairs. Handicap parking? maybe I get to use a handicap space 1 in 5 times as they are never available. I go to a doctor where I have to roll down the parking lot to the 1 cutout then roll myself all the way back to where I started, now on the sidewalk, and squeeze through a spot that I would not fit through in a full size wheelchair, just to get to the front door. This is a gfeat place to live, just not as good as it should be for the handicapped.

[golfing eagles]

if you want the perspective of someone who is often wheelchair bound, TV is terrible for the handicapped. Let's start at the curb. In the long streets of any square the only cutouts for wheelchairs are at the ends of the blocks...nothing along the entire length. The curbs themselves are high and sharp edged making it very difficult for someone with a walker to 'hop up' on. The sidewalks themselves are slanted downward to the curbs for drainage but awful for a manual wheelchair as you are constantly rolling towards the gutter. and then there are all the 'textured' walks...a nightmare for walkers, crutches and wheelchairs. Handicap parking? maybe I get to use a handicap space 1 in 5 times as they are never available. I go to a doctor where I have to roll down the parking lot to the 1 cutout then roll myself all the way back to where I started, now on the sidewalk, and squeeze through a spot that I would not fit through in a full size wheelchair, just to get to the front door. This is a gfeat place to live, just not as good as it should be for the handicapped.

Great perspective! Most of what you posted could probably be corrected at minimal cost, especially the lack of cut outs and the location and number of handicapped spaces. Of course, those that feel they have the right to question a handicapped permit will disagree with the latter. It would also help if a) lazy individuals would not be using mommy's permit to park where they shouldn't and b) if you are just going to drop off someone who is mobility challenged, do so then park in a regular spot.

[joldnol]

most establishments provide the legal minimum and they are not always the most convenient spots. Last night at an Italian Restaurant on 301 we parked in a handicapped spot and the restaurant had placed chairs across the sidewalk blocking access to the door. In an area with such a mature population one would think businesses would be more accommodating and aware of the issue. Abuse happens but it is probably at a smaller rate then people think. Not every handicapped person has a wheelchair or a walker.

[tomwed]

if you want the perspective of someone who is often wheelchair bound, TV is terrible for the handicapped. Let's start at the curb. In the long streets of any square the only cutouts for wheelchairs are at the ends of the blocks...nothing along the entire length. The curbs themselves are high and sharp edged making it very difficult for someone with a walker to 'hop up' on. The sidewalks themselves are slanted downward to the curbs for drainage but awful for a manual wheelchair as you are constantly rolling towards the gutter. and then there are all the 'textured' walks...a nightmare for walkers, crutches and wheelchairs. Handicap parking? maybe I get to use a handicap space 1 in 5 times as they are never available. I go to a doctor where I have to roll down the parking lot to the 1 cutout then roll myself all the way back to where I started, now on the sidewalk, and squeeze through a spot that I would not fit through in a full size wheelchair, just to get to the front door. This is a gfeat place to live, just not as good as it should be for the handicapped.
thank-you for sharing
If anyone wants to change things, I'm not sure how, I'l help.

[JoMar]

You are way out of touch. A handicap isn't always visible. I have MD and you wouldn't know it if I had long pants on you couldn't see my braces you would think when I get out of my Vett you would probably say the same thing about me. As for parking in the villages they are definitely in violation of the ADA as far as the number and placing of handicap spacing but they don't care. Some good retired lawyer could make a lot of money sueing them in a class action suit. This is one of the reasons I sold my house and moved out. Haven't missed it a bit.....🙈🙉🙊

Thank you for moving out....it is helpful to the rest of us. And if you haven't missed it, why do you keep checking in here?