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Guest
10-21-2008, 10:45 AM
The Politics of Fear and Hate Make Their Appearance in The Villages
I have an Obama/Biden sign on the windshield of my golf cart. On Friday My wife and I were returning from a trip to Spanish Springs. At a point in the path where we were just coming out of a right angle turn, another on-coming cart was slowing down to make the turn. As our carts passed, the driver in the approaching cart shouted out at us, “Traitors!” In an instant, this person had spewed forth his opinion of anyone who apparently does not support Senator John McCain and the policies he professes.
I was amazed at how upsetting it was to find myself the target of this troglodyte’s venom. Moreover, it is hard to think of a rational response to such a wholly irrational and hate-filled action as was directed to us. The McCain campaign has, for weeks, sponsored ads and unleashed Governor Sarah Palin to espouse the politics of fear and division. I was the recipient of the results of one Villager’s acceptance and actual practice of this hate-based politics. Now, Mr. McCain has tried to put the Genie back into the bottle as attendees at his political rallies are openly and actively revealing the extent to which they have accepted, believe in, verbalize and adopted the politics of fear. I would like to believe Mr. McCain’s remonstrance would end the appeals to man’s baser instincts, but I am realistic enough to know it won’t.
I do know that one man’s indecent behavior does not speak for the entire, larger community. Let us hope that most other Villagers who support Mr. McCain and the policies he espouses would pursue their politics on a more rational and less hate-filled level.
Guest
10-21-2008, 10:49 AM
Need to put it in neon lites....
Guest
10-21-2008, 10:54 AM
I will NOT be voting for Obama, however I will support the winner. No hate from this Republican only voting my preference and hope you do also.
s/six year Village resident
Guest
10-21-2008, 12:21 PM
This is VERY SAD!! Wouldn't expect this to happen....not in TV's!
Guest
10-21-2008, 12:22 PM
I am sorry for your bad experience and assure you that not everyone insists on this kind of behavior during this campaign. That being said, welcome to the McCain/Palin world. We have been getting torn to shreds for weeks/months online, in our neighborhoods, in our vehicles, in the media, etc. by incredibly wrong-doing type Obama backers.
Where do you live??
Guest
10-21-2008, 01:24 PM
Think of what President Bush has been called from day one of his presidency. That does not excuse the person calling you a traitor. That's childish.
Guest
10-21-2008, 01:25 PM
I was having coffee and reading the paper this morning with the TV on in the background. They switched between a McCain campaign rally and an Obama rally. McCain was ranting about all the bad things that Obama would do were he elected, inciting boos from the crowd and hesitating to wait for the boos and jeers. Then the channel switched to an Obama rally where he was moderating a panel discussion with audience questions regarding the economic situation. It was calm, informative and positive.
Unfortunately, Magoo seems to have experienced the hatred that has been imbedded by the almost constant drumbeat of negative and personally derogatory campaigning by John McCain. That really is too bad. At the outset of the campaign I was pleased that we almost couldn't go wrong with whichever of the candidates was elected. I was unsure who would get my vote. i can't say that now. McCain, his party and his advisors have adopted a totally negative campaign, believing that will convince more of the undecided voters than a campaign on the high road as he initially promised. If his advisors are right, he may pick up a few undecided voters. But speaking for myself, he lost me.
I'm hopeful that the disrepair among Americans created during this campaign can be assuaged once the election is over, but my hopes aren't too high. We will reap the bitterness that has been sown, I'm afraid. Unfortunately, it will be at a time when there are sufficient problems facing a new President that would be helped with the broad support among all citizens.
Guest
10-21-2008, 01:57 PM
While Obama is buying and stealing his votes McCain is out there telling the people the truth and hoping for their vote, the way a real election should be held.
There is the kettle calling the pot black, lets send a pre-recorded message to all telling them Obama works closely with a known Terrorist, That is what your voting for.
Hummmm, dont think i remember hearing obama camp doing that with G Gordon Liddy, Heck i believe Obama held his own in the last debate when McCain was crying to find out about Ayers. Then after the debate Obama's numbers went up. Who are you kidding, Was that a Republican or Democrat crying the blues about anit-american thought in in Congress, Oh yes almost slipped my mind.. Repbulican from Minnesota, or was the His Highness Rush L. calling it a racial move yesterday on the radio. You dont hear that from Obama. At his rally when people started booing McCain, he told them we dont do that hear,, just vote.
But you probable are the type that like to stir up the pot, which is cool. But remember, you cant call the pot black when your the kettle.....
Guest
10-21-2008, 02:01 PM
I was having coffee and reading the paper this morning with the TV on in the background. They switched between a McCain campaign rally and an Obama rally. McCain was ranting about all the bad things that Obama would do were he elected, inciting boos from the crowd and hesitating to wait for the boos and jeers. Then the channel switched to an Obama rally where he was moderating a panel discussion with audience questions regarding the economic situation. It was calm, informative and positive.
Unfortunately, Magoo seems to have experienced the hatred that has been imbedded by the almost constant drumbeat of negative and personally derogatory campaigning by John McCain. That really is too bad. At the outset of the campaign I was pleased that we almost couldn't go wrong with whichever of the candidates was elected. I was unsure who would get my vote. i can't say that now. McCain, his party and his advisors have adopted a totally negative campaign, believing that will convince more of the undecided voters than a campaign on the high road as he initially promised. If his advisors are right, he may pick up a few undecided voters. But speaking for myself, he lost me.
I'm hopeful that the disrepair among Americans created during this campaign can be assuaged once the election is over, but my hopes aren't too high. We will reap the bitterness that has been sown, I'm afraid. Unfortunately, it will be at a time when there are sufficient problems facing a new President that would be helped with the broad support among all citizens.
:agree: Think you hit it on the button..
Guest
10-21-2008, 02:55 PM
"I do know that one man’s indecent behavior does not speak for the entire, larger community. Let us hope that most other Villagers who support Mr. McCain and the policies he espouses would pursue their politics on a more rational and less hate-filled level".
I receive so much hate mail directed at Sen. Obama and wonder where all these hate mongers are going when he is elected. Is the real reason his politics or his color? :sad:
Guest
10-21-2008, 03:19 PM
There is the kettle calling the pot black, lets send a pre-recorded message to all telling them Obama works closely with a known Terrorist, That is what your voting for.
Hummmm, dont think i remember hearing obama camp doing that with G Gordon Liddy, Heck i believe Obama held his own in the last debate when McCain was crying to find out about Ayers. Then after the debate Obama's numbers went up. Who are you kidding, Was that a Republican or Democrat crying the blues about anit-american thought in in Congress, Oh yes almost slipped my mind.. Repbulican from Minnesota, or was the His Highness Rush L. calling it a racial move yesterday on the radio. You dont hear that from Obama. At his rally when people started booing McCain, he told them we dont do that hear,, just vote.
But you probable are the type that like to stir up the pot, which is cool. But remember, you cant call the pot black when your the kettle.....
You are so right....that Nut Job from Minnesota OMG.
This is getting really nasty and I hate the Robocalls I have been getting. But call the Repub headquarters to complain.... We didn't do it. Ha Ha Ha
Guest
10-21-2008, 07:30 PM
I will NOT be voting for Obama, however I will support the winner. No hate from this Republican only voting my preference and hope you do also.
s/six year Village resident
:agree::agree::agree:
Guest
10-21-2008, 07:42 PM
I was having coffee and reading the paper this morning with the TV on in the background. They switched between a McCain campaign rally and an Obama rally. McCain was ranting about all the bad things that Obama would do were he elected, inciting boos from the crowd and hesitating to wait for the boos and jeers. Then the channel switched to an Obama rally where he was moderating a panel discussion with audience questions regarding the economic situation. It was calm, informative and positive.
Unfortunately, Magoo seems to have experienced the hatred that has been imbedded by the almost constant drumbeat of negative and personally derogatory campaigning by John McCain. That really is too bad. At the outset of the campaign I was pleased that we almost couldn't go wrong with whichever of the candidates was elected. I was unsure who would get my vote. i can't say that now. McCain, his party and his advisors have adopted a totally negative campaign, believing that will convince more of the undecided voters than a campaign on the high road as he initially promised. If his advisors are right, he may pick up a few undecided voters. But speaking for myself, he lost me.
I'm hopeful that the disrepair among Americans created during this campaign can be assuaged once the election is over, but my hopes aren't too high. We will reap the bitterness that has been sown, I'm afraid. Unfortunately, it will be at a time when there are sufficient problems facing a new President that would be helped with the broad support among all citizens.
:agree:
Guest
10-21-2008, 08:38 PM
Magoo......
Must have taken you a week to write the post , i mean with the vision problem and all.!!!!!
Guest
10-21-2008, 08:40 PM
While Obama is buying and stealing his votes McCain is out there telling the people the truth and hoping for their vote, the way a real election should be held.
:1rotfl::1rotfl: I'd say something more, but I can't stop laughing! LOLOLOLOL Hahahahaha! :1rotfl::1rotfl:
Guest
10-21-2008, 08:57 PM
Don't pay any attention to chelsea ....she laughs at the weather channel..........of course thats the only thing she gets....i mean catches, oh i'm not sure what i mean............
Guest
10-21-2008, 09:10 PM
Don't pay any attention to chelsea ....she laughs at the weather channel..........of course thats the only thing she gets....i mean catches, oh i'm not sure what i mean............
Fumar! You never know what you mean!!! Now you know you have a mad crush on me! LOL :1rotfl: Don't make me spank you! :boxing2: ;) Hey, I heard there's a blizzard hitting Michigan. Get out your thermals! :cold:
Guest
10-21-2008, 10:12 PM
I have only two words for you chelsea24, I think you can figure them out. :boxing2:
President Obama? :boxing2:
Guest
10-21-2008, 10:18 PM
Gimme a break
Guest
10-21-2008, 10:33 PM
My husband and I thought briefly about putting a McCain/Palin sign in our yard. As quickly, we considered that the new people across the street are probably Obama/Biden backers, as we saw them getting signs of the same out of the back of their car, after a rally in Orlando, I think it was. We would not want to look at an Obama sign every day, so reasoned that it would not be pleasant for them to have to look at our sign, with McCain/Palin on it. Our golf cart signs surely would not upset anyone, with one saying, "Drill Here, Drill Now," and the other saying "Fair Tax." I think, there is too much from rabid supporters of both parties that is ugly. The vandalism of cars, etc. with McCain/Palin stickers, however, seems to predominate, as I read news and t.v. channels' web sites, most noticably from South Florida.
Guest
10-21-2008, 11:07 PM
President Obama? :boxing2:
Can I have a front row seat for this fight? :popcorn:
:1rotfl::1rotfl:
Guest
10-22-2008, 03:22 AM
hang in there. I am recieving the same hate mail in Georgia. I have been a republican voter longer than I can remember and want to vote RED this time, but McCain makes me nervous and now with Palin, I just can't be part of subjecting my country to the backward, closed minded way they think.
Lou
Guest
10-22-2008, 04:31 AM
Can I have a front row seat for this fight? :popcorn:
:1rotfl::1rotfl:
:agree:
lets call Don King and get it promted on HBO and the profits can pay off the Bail out plan, Oh forgive me, THE RESCUE PLAN....
Guest
10-22-2008, 04:34 AM
hang in there. I am recieving the same hate mail in Georgia. I have been a republican voter longer than I can remember and want to vote RED this time, but McCain makes me nervous and now with Palin, I just can't be part of subjecting my country to the backward, closed minded way they think.
Lou
you figure she would at least by now know what the VP does, But she cant get it right. Still thinks The constitution would let her Control the Senate.
Guest
10-22-2008, 05:17 AM
I was having coffee and reading the paper this morning with the TV on in the background. They switched between a McCain campaign rally and an Obama rally. McCain was ranting about all the bad things that Obama would do were he elected, inciting boos from the crowd and hesitating to wait for the boos and jeers. Then the channel switched to an Obama rally where he was moderating a panel discussion with audience questions regarding the economic situation. It was calm, informative and positive.
Unfortunately, Magoo seems to have experienced the hatred that has been imbedded by the almost constant drumbeat of negative and personally derogatory campaigning by John McCain. That really is too bad. At the outset of the campaign I was pleased that we almost couldn't go wrong with whichever of the candidates was elected. I was unsure who would get my vote. i can't say that now. McCain, his party and his advisors have adopted a totally negative campaign, believing that will convince more of the undecided voters than a campaign on the high road as he initially promised. If his advisors are right, he may pick up a few undecided voters. But speaking for myself, he lost me.
I'm hopeful that the disrepair among Americans created during this campaign can be assuaged once the election is over, but my hopes aren't too high. We will reap the bitterness that has been sown, I'm afraid. Unfortunately, it will be at a time when there are sufficient problems facing a new President that would be helped with the broad support among all citizens.
I try not to read what is posted in the political forum because most of it is so full of hatred that I can't bear it. The rest is that people are so brain washed along party lines that no matter what happens, nothing could change their minds. Kahuna, I salute you for YOUR calm responses and although I don't always agree with you, I respect your intelligent, open minded attitude, your articulate non inflammatory posts and your general demeanor.
Guest
10-22-2008, 07:34 AM
You are so right....that Nut Job from Minnesota OMG.
This is getting really nasty and I hate the Robocalls I have been getting. But call the Repub headquarters to complain.... We didn't do it. Ha Ha Ha
Cologal....surely you were referring to someone else who happens to be in Minnesota.....not oshunluva....perhaps you could clarify.....please? :ohdear:
Guest
10-22-2008, 07:59 AM
I happen to be in New York City last week and saw the QE2 leaving on its finial voyage. With a fire boat escort, while its deck guns shooting red white and blue water into the air. I was thinking it might be on it way to maybe Ft Lauderdale, FL to pick up all the TV McCain supporters on Nov 5 for a trip to the promised land. I was hoping they were carrying enough crying towels and was hoping there were still some john birchs left to greet the new TV passengers
Guest
10-22-2008, 09:22 AM
I try not to read what is posted in the political forum because most of it is so full of hatred that I can't bear it. The rest is that people are so brain washed along party lines that no matter what happens, nothing could change their minds. Kahuna, I salute you for YOUR calm responses and although I don't always agree with you, I respect your intelligent, open minded attitude, your articulate non inflammatory posts and your general demeanor.
:agree:...Well stated on all points Ggirl.
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