Rude driver at Lynnhaven Postal Center.

[Taltarzac725]

Yesterday I was getting ready to put Beau in his car seat. The parking spot to the right of me was empty and an impatient obnoxious woman drove her car into the spot while I was still in it fixing Beau's car seat. There were many other open spots in the parking lot but this woman just keeps on coming while I fiddle with the car seat. If looks could kill...she would have been a goner. But, I did not doing anything more than give her a good stare down which I hope she felt from me and the woman in the car on the other side of the parking spot she forced her way into while scaring the poop out of me. Just figuratively.

I was seriously thinking if showing her much impression of a sailor just into port but changed my mind due to keeping my blood pressure down.

I have been seeing so much more selfish behavior here in the Villages of late.

[debow]

Bought here in April. Was so impressed on how friendly the people were. Suddenly over the past several weeks I have seen so many rude drivers both in cars and carts. Yelling, honking horns, rude gestures, ... Maybe we need to rethink Florida's Friendlest Hometown!

[golfing eagles]

Bought here in April. Was so impressed on how friendly the people were. Suddenly over the past several weeks I have seen so many rude drivers both in cars and carts. Yelling, honking horns, rude gestures, ... Maybe we need to rethink Florida's Friendlest Hometown!

This time of year, the population swells from 75,000 to 115,000. There are "snowbirds", here for the winter both owners and renters. There are weekly renters. There are guests of owners. Some of these people come from areas with a faster pace of life and need to "decompress" Others will never change their attitudes. Hang in there, things will improve by April.

[champion6]

Yesterday I was getting ready to put Beau in his car seat. The parking spot to the right of me was empty and an impatient obnoxious woman drove her car into the spot while I was still in it fixing Beau's car seat. There were many other open spots in the parking lot but this woman just keeps on coming while I fiddle with the car seat. <snip>C'mon, Tal. You are supposed to know that she ALWAYS parks in the SAME spot EVERY time she comes to the postal station. <wink> <wink>

[gap2415]

I'm always surprised when there are so many choices people choose the spot right beside you whether in a restaurant, parking lot or whatever. The few steps closer to her box perhaps but certainly not more important than a neighbor, especially one struggling with a pet. At this point I tend to come up with excuses for why she might have acted this way but decided not to do so.

In cases like this, I try not to lose my cool and politely ignore the situation but if she glared too long I would have to point out the obvious. "Have you had such a bad day you couldn't take any other space than the one where you could glare at me and pretend it is my fault for holding YOU up!"

[RickeyD]

The renters are paying a thousand bucks a week to stay here. That entitles them to priority parking as well as unlimited speed limits, express supermarket checkout, multi modal HOV lanes, stress free (slow) executive golf, and intregral roundabout bypass lanes.

[Mudder]

People seem to get cranky when it gets cold ! She must have felt warmth coming from you! And oh yeah, that's probably "her space".

[gap2415]

For newbies, The Villages is not perfect but friendlier than most places you have ever been. Yes, people who were nasty as kids may still be nasty as elderly people if they never grew up and as you can see, we still let them irritate us now and then. The solution is catching people being friendly and doing good....but then in The Villages, this forum would be too overloaded. Yet....we would feel good, even better every day.

[yabbadu]

chilout

[champion6]

The renters are paying a thousand bucks a week to stay here. That entitles them to priority parking as well as unlimited speed limits, express supermarket checkout, multi modal HOV lanes, stress free (slow) executive golf, and intregral roundabout bypass lanes.I simply say that some renters have the "cruise ship mentality."

[golfing eagles]

The renters are paying a thousand bucks a week to stay here. That entitles them to priority parking as well as unlimited speed limits, express supermarket checkout, multi modal HOV lanes, stress free (slow) executive golf, and intregral roundabout bypass lanes.

You forgot nasty looks and "in your face" comments, not to mention a sprinkling of four letter words and physical confrontations in the squares

[RickeyD]

You forgot nasty looks and "in your face" comments, not to mention a sprinkling of four letter words and physical confrontations in the squares

That only applies to the New Yorkers :pepper2:

[outlaw]

Yesterday I was getting ready to put Beau in his car seat. The parking spot to the right of me was empty and an impatient obnoxious woman drove her car into the spot while I was still in it fixing Beau's car seat. There were many other open spots in the parking lot but this woman just keeps on coming while I fiddle with the car seat. If looks could kill...she would have been a goner. But, I did not doing anything more than give her a good stare down which I hope she felt from me and the woman in the car on the other side of the parking spot she forced her way into while scaring the poop out of me. Just figuratively.

I was seriously thinking if showing her much impression of a sailor just into port but changed my mind due to keeping my blood pressure down.

I have been seeing so much more selfish behavior here in the Villages of late.

I'm still having trouble with "putting beau in his car seat". Is beau your nephew or a pet? And why wouldn't you just pull your door in a little to make room for that person instead of insisting on occupying two parking spaces? I have closed my door and delayed getting into my car when in a similar situation. It makes for a much better interaction and is appreciated by the person in the other vehicle.

[Taltarzac725]

I was not close to the Lynnhaven Postal Center but did notice that all the really close parking spaces just in front of this building were occupied.

I have not seen this woman before so maybe she is a seasonal visitor.

[Taltarzac725]

I'm still having trouble with "putting beau in his car seat". Is beau your nephew or a pet? And why wouldn't you just pull your door in a little to make room for that person instead of insisting on occupying two parking spaces? I have closed my door and delayed getting into my car when in a similar situation. It makes for a much better interaction and is appreciated by the person in the other vehicle.

I was picking my dog Beau to put into the car seat when this woman stopped to turn into the parking lot and then just started coming and coming into the spot. She just insisted she would park there by forcing me to move so she could get into the spot. There were dozens of spots available in other parts of the parking lot and this woman had no trouble walking. There were also numerous spots to the left of my car but these were a few feet farther than the one to the right of my vehicle.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Reminds me of the old joke

Why couldn't Helen Keller drive?
She was a woman.

[DonH57]

Bought here in April. Was so impressed on how friendly the people were. Suddenly over the past several weeks I have seen so many rude drivers both in cars and carts. Yelling, honking horns, rude gestures, ... Maybe we need to rethink Florida's Friendlest Hometown!

Welcome to the hood!:D

[rustyp]

Clearly there is no rudeness here when the renters are gone. News flash - when the population was under 30000 the rudeness factor was at a minimum. Everyone knew they were going to see the same old faces tomorrow. As one very old timer said to me one evening "now the knuckleheads have a place to hide".

[Taltarzac725]

I was already a little peeved at the Lynnhaven Postal Center contractors for stuffing a large flat package addressed to my Dad from the Veteran's of Foreign Wars which had a "Do not fold" sticker on it. I could barely get it out of the mail box and it was pretty ripped up when I got it out.

I did keep my cool though and only gave the parking spot pig a dirty look while she was walking away. I hope that the lady in the van to the right of the parking space she forced he way into pointed out how unsafe her using her car as a bumper against a man and his dog is. I would have had her for assault with a dangerous weapon if she had touched me with her car or God forbid struck my dog because of her rush to get her mail.

[graciegirl]

I am sorry Tal. It makes me feel bad to read this because you are always a gentleman and a good person.


I think it is what everyone else so nicely said.

[ugotme]

Okay - let's be real!

This is still a very friendly place. However, with over 100,000 people it is inevitable that some will be nasty, rude etc.

This is not Utopia. And I don't believe that it is all the snowbirds fault! (I am a permanent resident).

And, yes, even some New Yorkers can be slightly rude on occasion. Very rare but possible.

:swear:

[tomwed]

hmmmm

[Taltarzac725]

I am sorry Tal. It makes me feel bad to read this because you are always a gentleman and a good person.


I think it is what everyone else so nicely said.

Thanks. GC. I would have let her in if she acted with some kind of awareness of me putting my dog in his car seat. She just kept driving in even though I was right there and I did have to get out of her way not to get hit.

Thankfully, I usually just take the golf cart to the postal center and would not have had this kind of problem as it is easy to get in and out of it with a small dog in your arms. Not so much a small car with a dog seat.

[graciegirl]

Thanks. GC. I would have let her in if she acted with some kind of awareness of me putting my dog in his car seat. She just kept driving in even though I was right there and I did have to get out of her way not to get hit.

Thankfully, I usually just take the golf cart to the postal center and would not have had this kind of problem as it is easy to get in and out of it with a small dog in your arms. Not so much a small car with a dog seat.



I can't see where you did anything wrong, Tal. That was my point and I was not clear. You are always fair and a gentleman.

[Happy Snowbird]

We are seeing a LOT of rudeness, insensitive behavior and acts of entitlement. We were once renters & are now snowbirds but our status here had/has no bearing on how we treat people. Today a lady had partially pulled out of the Sandhill parking area & stopped with her golf carts front wheels on the golf path.....she was putting her golf "stuff" away. DUH. This is right on the curve after crossing St Charles. Went around her but would have had to stop if a cart was coming the other way. Has nothing to do with my being impatient.....has to do with safety and consideration.

[tomwed]

Went around her but would have had to stop if a cart was coming the other way.

Has nothing to do with my being impatient.....has to do with safety and consideration.
Can it be both?

[perrjojo]

I simply say that some renters have the "cruise ship mentality."

What is cruise ship mentality?

[tomwed]

What is cruise ship mentality?
The buffet's always better on the other side.

[tomwed]

What is cruise ship mentality?
Two ports don't make a starboard.

[tomwed]

Woman and children first, unless there's only one bathroom.

[tomwed]

You don't yell Bingo in a crowded room.

[tomwed]

A new broom sweeps clean but sometimes you need a mop.

[tomwed]

Everything in moderation unless it's lobster night.

[CWGUY]

Woman and children first, unless there's only one bathroom.

:cryin2: Or you are an Italian Captain. (Costa Concordia)

[tomwed]

A fool and his money should let his wife wear the money belt.

[tomwed]

A bird in the hand means your pretty close to land.

[dbussone]

Yesterday I was getting ready to put Beau in his car seat. The parking spot to the right of me was empty and an impatient obnoxious woman drove her car into the spot while I was still in it fixing Beau's car seat. There were many other open spots in the parking lot but this woman just keeps on coming while I fiddle with the car seat. If looks could kill...she would have been a goner. But, I did not doing anything more than give her a good stare down which I hope she felt from me and the woman in the car on the other side of the parking spot she forced her way into while scaring the poop out of me. Just figuratively.

I was seriously thinking if showing her much impression of a sailor just into port but changed my mind due to keeping my blood pressure down.

I have been seeing so much more selfish behavior here in the Villages of late.


Tal - the expression I use for those perennially dissatisfied individuals is: GRUMP BUCKETS.

I believe you came across one yesterday.

[tomwed]

If you can't cut the mustard, next time don't order the sandwich.
[ok, i'll stop--i think i misunderstood the question]

[dbussone]

A bird in the hand means your pretty close to land.


A bird in the hand means you really need to wash it well.

[Jima64]

My wife sometimes calls them cranky pants.

[njbchbum]

This time of year, the population swells from 75,000 to 115,000. There are "snowbirds", here for the winter both owners and renters. There are weekly renters. There are guests of owners. Some of these people come from areas with a faster pace of life and need to "decompress" Others will never change their attitudes. Hang in there, things will improve by April.

And then there are the crotchety full-timers who have no use for snowbirds/renters/guests/seasonal owners and strongly resent their arrival and demonstrate their aversion to same. They seem to believe that their year-round residency supersedes all others and entitles them to maintain their usual practices...like the couple who bypassed the restaurant waiting line and told the Hostess - "But we live here year-round!"

[Jima64]

Parking a few extra spaces away is also a nice way to walk some for exercise.

[KeepingItReal]

I'm still having trouble with "putting beau in his car seat". Is beau your nephew or a pet? And why wouldn't you just pull your door in a little to make room for that person instead of insisting on occupying two parking spaces? I have closed my door and delayed getting into my car when in a similar situation. It makes for a much better interaction and is appreciated by the person in the other vehicle.

Well said, :BigApplause:

Some want to get irritated at anything someone else does if they don't like it even if they are not doing anything wrong. Actually the complainers and name callers are the real problem, doubtful the other driver is still dwelling on it today or even remembers it.

[perrjojo]

How can you tell a snowbird, renter or tourist just by seeing them out and about in the Villages? Oh, I know the time I saw three white rental golf carts traveling together coming out of Lake Sumter and enter the round about. But other than that time I just can't tell.

[Bogie Shooter]

Some threads are a waste of time reading...........................

[Taltarzac725]

Well said, :BigApplause:

Some want to get irritated at anything someone else does if they don't like it even if they are not doing anything wrong. Actually the complainers and name callers are the real problem, doubtful the other driver is still dwelling on it today or even remembers it.

She is not the one who seemed to be almost running me over to get to her mail. I really doubt if she remembers it either as she was quite full of herself after grabbing that parking space after scaring the :crap2: out of a guy trying to get his dog into his car seat.

Some people can argue about anything.

[Taltarzac725]

Some threads are a waste of time reading...........................

Do not read it then.

[golfing eagles]

Thanks. GC. I would have let her in if she acted with some kind of awareness of me putting my dog in his car seat. She just kept driving in even though I was right there and I did have to get out of her way not to get hit.

Thankfully, I usually just take the golf cart to the postal center and would not have had this kind of problem as it is easy to get in and out of it with a small dog in your arms. Not so much a small car with a dog seat.

Should have let her hit you at 2 mph, then call your lawyer in front of her. OOPS, forgot you ARE a lawyer!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[PennBF]

This is no surprise. Yep, am a all year around person and from May to Dec have had no agresive problems. Now that part timers are here I have had at lease 2 vulgar finger signs and god knows how many crazy drivers. Just have to wait until May for calm behavior to return.:mornincoffee:

[raynan]

We went to a function at Lake Miona where a golf cart was parked to the right of a space but exactly in the middle lengthwise. We tried to pull left of it forward and we would have been in the space in front. We pulled back and we would have been hanging in the aisle so we parked evenly next to their cart. When we came out (we were there first) we hurried to get in our cart to move it and the other driver arrived and loudly stated to her friend "What happened to common courtesy? Aren't you suppose to stagger cart parking?". I was going to answer back but sometimes it's just not worth it. She was delayed getting into her cart by 2 seconds.

[dbussone]

My wife sometimes calls them cranky pants.

That works as well.

[RickeyD]

Should have let her hit you at 2 mph, then call your lawyer in front of her. OOPS, forgot you ARE a lawyer!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You wouldn't give yourself an appendectomy would you Doc ?:pepper2:

[rubicon]

There's a term for this and it stemmed from a well publicized experiment (using ugh! rats) to determine the effect of overcrowding.

Welcome to The Villages in prime time and adjust your attitude when it comes to driving roads/multi-modal cart paths, all stores, all restaurants, all village golf courses all entertainment venues on the squares............

[birdawg]

I find it best to take up 2 spots this way you don't have to worry about getting hit by a car that comes to close.:BigApplause:

[Sandtrap328]

There's a term for this and it stemmed from a well publicized experiment (using ugh! rats) to determine the effect of overcrowding.

Welcome to The Villages in prime time and adjust your attitude when it comes to driving roads/multi-modal cart paths, all stores, all restaurants, all village golf courses all entertainment venues on the squares............

Oh, come on now! Even at the peak of snowbird time, The Villages is not over crowded. It is very busy but not over crowded!

You are absolutely right that for 4 months, we do have to plan restaurant times different and the squares will be full when good entertainment is there (Rocky and the Rollers). Still, this is the very best place most could ever hope for.

I would say almost everyone is friendly but there always will be the grumpy pants in any living situation. Just smile at them and realize you are in a wonderful place.

[Taltarzac725]

Oh, come on now! Even at the peak of snowbird time, The Villages is not over crowded. It is very busy but not over crowded!

You are absolutely right that for 4 months, we do have to plan restaurant times different and the squares will be full when good entertainment is there (Rocky and the Rollers). Still, this is the very best place most could ever hope for.

I would say almost everyone is friendly but there always will be the grumpy pants in any living situation. Just smile at them and realize you are in a wonderful place.

Many are not getting why I am having a problem with this. A car is a dangerous weapon and should not be used to push people along if you are impatient with them. There were probably 60 or more parking spots where this woman could have parked rather than using her car to speed me up from getting Beau into his car seat.

I can put up with the everyday grouches but when a dangerous weapon is concerned like a car; that is different. Pull this with your car against a cop putting his or her dog in the car and you would probably get tazed maybe even shot .

[Polar Bear]

Oh, come on now! Even at the peak of snowbird time, The Villages is not over crowded. It is very busy but not over crowded!

You are absolutely right that for 4 months, we do have to plan restaurant times different and the squares will be full when good entertainment is there (Rocky and the Rollers). Still, this is the very best place most could ever hope for.

I would say almost everyone is friendly but there always will be the grumpy pants in any living situation. Just smile at them and realize you are in a wonderful place.
What ST said.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Bought here in April. Was so impressed on how friendly the people were. Suddenly over the past several weeks I have seen so many rude drivers both in cars and carts. Yelling, honking horns, rude gestures, ... Maybe we need to rethink Florida's Friendlest Hometown!

Don't worry. It will only last a few more months until they go back north. Just breathe deep and keep your head on a swivel......

[kcrazorbackfan]

Parking a few extra spaces away is also a nice way to walk some for exercise.

One should not have to alter what one does because of the entitled/privileged....

[Taltarzac725]

Don't worry. It will only last a few more months until they go back north. Just breathe deep and keep your head on a swivel......

The added traffic does get taxing but there are more restaurant choices as well as more movie theater screens (24 now) and more places to shop. And 4 dog parks now even if one is not really worth calling a dog park.

[outlaw]

I was already a little peeved at the Lynnhaven Postal Center contractors for stuffing a large flat package addressed to my Dad from the Veteran's of Foreign Wars which had a "Do not fold" sticker on it. I could barely get it out of the mail box and it was pretty ripped up when I got it out.

I did keep my cool though and only gave the parking spot pig a dirty look while she was walking away. I hope that the lady in the van to the right of the parking space she forced he way into pointed out how unsafe her using her car as a bumper against a man and his dog is. I would have had her for assault with a dangerous weapon if she had touched me with her car or God forbid struck my dog because of her rush to get her mail.

So you're PO'd at the PC contractor. You are loading your dog into the car; a two second task. And there you are staring down an old woman, you refer to as a pig, trying to pull into a parking spot, daring her to touch you. Sounds like you were looking for a fight. You're lucky she wasn't a cop. She may have tased or shot you.

[dbussone]

So you're PO'd at the PC contractor. You are loading your dog into the car; a two second task. And there you are staring down an old woman, you refer to as a pig, trying to pull into a parking spot, daring her to touch you. Sounds like you were looking for a fight. You're lucky she wasn't a cop. She may have tased or shot you.


No, I think he is justifiably upset at the grump bucket who tried to use a 3000 pound vehicle to force him out of her way.

And what do you have against LEO's?

[tomwed]

So you're PO'd at the PC contractor. You are loading your dog into the car; a two second task. And there you are staring down an old woman, you refer to as a pig, trying to pull into a parking spot, daring her to touch you. Sounds like you were looking for a fight. You're lucky she wasn't a cop. She may have tased or shot you.
You got a good imagination.

[outlaw]

No, I think he is justifiably upset at the grump bucket who tried to use a 3000 pound vehicle to force him out of her way.

And what do you have against LEO's?

Nothing against leos. refering to a previous post by Tal. you need to read all the posts to follow.

[outlaw]

You got a good imagination.

I think those were Tal's words (maybe didn't say OLD woman, but I think everything else was stated by Tal. I assumed "old" based on "grumpy pants" and typical TV age. Do you not read all the posts?

[dbussone]

Nothing against leos. refering to a previous post by Tal. you need to read all the posts to follow.


I read the posts, including yours- suggesting the driver, if a cop, might shoot or taze him. A LEO would not even think of that, and to suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

[outlaw]

I read the posts, including yours- suggesting the driver, if a cop, might shoot or taze him. A LEO would not even think of that, and to suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

Well then you must have read Tals post stating that if he were a cop, the cop may have tazed or shot her? I was merely repeating what he said to illustrate the silliness of that scenario. So you need to vent on the original poster.

[dbussone]

Well then you must have read Tals post stating that if he were a cop, the cop may have tazed or shot her? I was merely repeating what he said to illustrate the silliness of that scenario. So you need to vent on the original poster.


Actually, that was you that said that in one of your posts. See your post #61.

[Taltarzac725]

Well then you must have read Tals post stating that if he were a cop, the cop may have tazed or shot her? I was merely repeating what he said to illustrate the silliness of that scenario. So you need to vent on the original poster.

I never said if were a cop, that I would have done that. But if a person pushed their vehicle at a cop putting her dog into her cop car, I would not expect that scenario to go well for the person driving the car heading towards the police car.

I detect something personal here against me Outlaw. I got out of the woman's way as fast as I could. I did have to get Beau safe though.

And I am not sure how old this woman was/is. She could have been as young as 55. To maybe 75.

Same with Kahuna32162. I have had mean spirited posts from this person as well. I have no idea why these two people seem to have animosity towards me.

[Boomer]

There's a term for this and it stemmed from a well publicized experiment (using ugh! rats) to determine the effect of overcrowding.

- - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -
.


Rubicon,

The term you are talking about is behavioral sink.

A paper published by Calhoun was titled Population Density and Social Pathology.

Calhoun built a rat utopia, moved in a few rats, observed, and then published what happened when it became overpopulated.

You can Google to read all about it. But you might not want to........:22yikes:

[lambchop285]

The renters are paying a thousand bucks a week to stay here. That entitles them to priority parking as well as unlimited speed limits, express supermarket checkout, multi modal HOV lanes, stress free (slow) executive golf, and intregral roundabout bypass lanes.
i work at a local store and it amazes me how nasty people are from January thru April.... I mean NASTY!

[Barefoot]

Bought here in April. Was so impressed on how friendly the people were. Suddenly over the past several weeks I have seen so many rude drivers both in cars and carts. Yelling, honking horns, rude gestures, ... Maybe we need to rethink Florida's Friendlest Hometown!

It's High Season everywhere in Florida. The population has suddenly almost doubled.
Of course there are going to be rude drivers and lots of cranky people. It's not only happening in The Villages.

[CFrance]

Two ports don't make a starboard.
Watch out for the :boom:

[graciegirl]

I never said if were a cop, that I would have done that. But if a person pushed their vehicle at a cop putting her dog into her cop car, I would not expect that scenario to go well for the person driving the car heading towards the police car.

I detect something personal here against me Outlaw. I got out of the woman's way as fast as I could. I did have to get Beau safe though.

And I am not sure how old this woman was/is. She could have been as young as 55. To maybe 75.

Same with Kahuna32162. I have had mean spirited posts from this person as well. I have no idea why these two people seem to have animosity towards me.



Tal, please don't worry about them. A couple of them are always like that. We know you.

[rustyp]

I missed something. Why was Beau out of his seat at the Postal Station. Was he on a poop walk ?

[Taltarzac725]

I missed something. Why was Beau out of his seat at the Postal Station. Was he on a poop walk ?

He poops at Doggie Doo Run Run usually. He likes to go to the Lynnhaven Postal Center to meet the few dozen pooches who also go there about that time. Some come with their dogs from other neighborhoods than Lynnhaven.

It takes about 10 seconds to get him properly into the car seat as you have to attach a clasp to his leash or else he moves around in the car, make sure his tail does not get hit by the door, and that he is facing the right way.

[Taltarzac725]

Tal, please don't worry about them. A couple of them are always like that. We know you.

Thanks for the help Graciegirl. I know you have had problems yourself with specific posters.

[rustyp]

He poops at Doggie Doo Run Run usually. He likes to go to the Lynnhaven Postal Center to meet the few dozen pooches who also go there about that time. Some come with their dogs from other neighborhoods than Lynnhaven.

It takes about 10 seconds to get him properly into the car seat as you have to attach a clasp to his leash or else he moves around in the car, make sure his tail does not get hit by the door, and that he is facing the right way.

I would hope dog owners are not socializing at the postal stations. The sign clearly states "post office parking 10 minutes only".

[Taltarzac725]

I would hope dog owners are not socializing at the postal stations. The sign clearly states "post office parking 10 minutes only".

Ours does not have that kind of sign that I can remember. Some non-dog owners chat for quite a long time as they are not busy walking their pooches.

I wonder why everything but the woman almost running me over is being discussed?

[golfing eagles]

I would hope dog owners are not socializing at the postal stations. The sign clearly states "post office parking 10 minutes only".

Haven't seen any sign like that either. Makes little sense since it is also the neighborhood pool and rec center.

[golfing eagles]

Sorry this happened to you, Tal. Even sorrier that some think you were wrong on some level. Perhaps re-wording the situation might help some understand:

The OP was at the postal station with 50 open parking spaces. He was on the passenger side helping his 102 year old mother into the seat when someone pulled into the space next to him and impatiently tried to "bully" him out of her way, forcing him to move to avoid being hit. Is that behavior acceptable as well, or is it different when it is a dog?

Some thought he was looking for a fight by giving a "nasty" look. He wasn't the one with the 2 ton lethal weapon. I have an even temper, but in a situation like this I would, and actually have a few times, gone over to the driver and in my best Ben Carson voice tell him. "Please move your car, or I will move it for you. You will be far better off choosing the first option" Worked 2 for 2 so far.

And even if this was the last parking space available and 10 cars were circling the lot to find one, there is no reason why the driver couldn't pull halfway in to claim the space and wait 10 sec. for the rest of the space to clear.

Like the title of the thread----RUDE

[rustyp]

Haven't seen any sign like that either. Makes little sense since it is also the neighborhood pool and rec center.


The parking spots immediately in front of the postal boxes at Paradise does - and it's pretty big. Look and let us know the next time your at Lyndhaven if there is one. However common sense to me is that is what those parking spots immediately in front of the boxes are for. If you went to get your mail in the afternoon and there was no place to park and a bunch of doggie owners milling around parading off their pride and joy - well let's just say that would have started another entitlement thread.

[Taltarzac725]

The parking spots immediately in front of the postal boxes at Paradise does - and it's pretty big. Look and let us know the next time your at Lyndhaven if there is one. However common sense to me is that is what those parking spots immediately in front of the boxes are for. If you went to get your mail in the afternoon and there was no place to park and a bunch of doggie owners milling around parading off their pride and joy - well let's just say that would have started another entitlement thread.

Does Paradise have a pool there too?

Again there were maybe 15 cars in the parking lot when this happened and some of these people were using the pool and often stay there for an hour or more.

There were probably 50-60 open spots.

I did think of just telling the woman to stop her car and go to another parking space but actually am a very non-confrontational person. I just got my dog in safely to his car seat-- which takes about 25 seconds-- and then went around and got in my car and left while giving this woman's back a very hard glare.

[Boomer]

i work at a local store and it amazes me how nasty people are from January thru April.... I mean NASTY!

There always will be people who try to make themselves feel better by making others feel worse. Some of it comes from a need to feel like they have power. (cringe) Try to remember it's their problem not yours.

Working with the public sure can be a challenge sometimes.

Just pretend it's theater as those characters "strut and fret" upon the stage.

[outlaw]

I never said if were a cop, that I would have done that. But if a person pushed their vehicle at a cop putting her dog into her cop car, I would not expect that scenario to go well for the person driving the car heading towards the police car.

I detect something personal here against me Outlaw. I got out of the woman's way as fast as I could. I did have to get Beau safe though.

And I am not sure how old this woman was/is. She could have been as young as 55. To maybe 75.

Same with Kahuna32162. I have had mean spirited posts from this person as well. I have no idea why these two people seem to have animosity towards me.

Many are not getting why I am having a problem with this. A car is a dangerous weapon and should not be used to push people along if you are impatient with them. There were probably 60 or more parking spots where this woman could have parked rather than using her car to speed me up from getting Beau into his car seat.

I can put up with the everyday grouches but when a dangerous weapon is concerned like a car; that is different. Pull this with your car against a cop putting his or her dog in the car and you would probably get tazed maybe even shot .

Tal, see bold sentence. Nothing personal against you; just don't agree with your justification for your anger, and as you continued to post, your story seemed to indicate that you may have been in a bad mood and the slightest thing was going to cause you to react negatively. I'm actually surprised that so many posters immediately assumed this person, who you said could have been 75 yrs old, was intentionally forcing you to move with her car. Could it have been that she was an impaired senior (vision, motor control, dementia) who shouldn't be driving, and did not realize how close she was getting to you? You tell the story as if you could read her mind and knew her intentions. And then we have the added aggravating factor of the "2 mph lethal weapon" statement. I'm waiting for the attempted murder accusation. It just seems totally out of control. And now we have a thread that morphed into a rant on how there are so many rude people in TV. And the typical TV cheerleaders actually joining in to bolster that view! Surprise. Anyway, only you know what happened, but I would not be at all surprised if that lady had no clue that you felt rushed, forced, intimidated, or whatever. She may have never even realized what went down.

[outlaw]

Sorry this happened to you, Tal. Even sorrier that some think you were wrong on some level. Perhaps re-wording the situation might help some understand:

The OP was at the postal station with 50 open parking spaces. He was on the passenger side helping his 102 year old mother into the seat when someone pulled into the space next to him and impatiently tried to "bully" him out of her way, forcing him to move to avoid being hit. Is that behavior acceptable as well, or is it different when it is a dog?

Some thought he was looking for a fight by giving a "nasty" look. He wasn't the one with the 2 ton lethal weapon. I have an even temper, but in a situation like this I would, and actually have a few times, gone over to the driver and in my best Ben Carson voice tell him. "Please move your car, or I will move it for you. You will be far better off choosing the first option" Worked 2 for 2 so far.

And even if this was the last parking space available and 10 cars were circling the lot to find one, there is no reason why the driver couldn't pull halfway in to claim the space and wait 10 sec. for the rest of the space to clear.

Like the title of the thread----RUDE

Beau is a dog, not a 102 yo mother. Please try to keep up.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Taltarzac725]

I doubt if this woman did not know what she was doing was wrong. She just did nor care.

She was a brunette of anywhere from 55 through 75 and moved fine. I had not parked near the Postal Center but maybe three to five parking spaces away from it. These spaces were all full though with maybe eight cars parked with people getting their mail.

And in a community this size there are going to be people who are just not very considerate of other people.

Again the problem I am having is someone using her car to clear the parking space someone else was occupying. She stopped, saw that I was busy messing with my dog Beau and just decided to keep on coming with her car even though I was still in that parking space. I am still angry about this type of behavior. And she was coming in at a good speed when she started to push me out of the way using her car as a broom. I had to slam the door and get close to the car to make sure she did not hit me with her car.

There was a witness who did not seem to believe what this woman did too. She saw the glare I gave the woman. Again this could have been a woman of 55 or so. The witness was a Senior of maybe 70-85.

[rustyp]

To all of you I apologize for having a little bit of fun on a rainy morning. You guys keep it up and have your fun. Breakfast is ready.

[golfing eagles]

Beau is a dog, not a 102 yo mother. Please try to keep up.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

It's called an analogy. Please try to keep up.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Taltarzac725]

To all of you I apologize for having a little bit of fun on a rainy morning. You guys keep it up and have your fun. Breakfast is ready.

Weird idea of having fun. I need some lobster.

[golfing eagles]

Weird idea of having fun. I need some lobster.

Maybe lobster benedict for breakfast? Seems like the last 24 hrs. on TOTV has brought back the handicapped parking/rude people/cyclist on roads threads.
Anyone want to resurrect seat saving, coyotes, and MMP striping?

[outlaw]

I doubt if this woman did not know what she was doing was wrong. She just did nor care.

She was a brunette of anywhere from 55 through 75 and moved fine. I had not parked near the Postal Center but maybe three to five parking spaces away from it. These spaces were all full though with maybe eight cars parked with people getting their mail.

And in a community this size there are going to be people who are just not very considerate of other people.

Again the problem I am having is someone using her car to clear the parking space someone else was occupying. She stopped, saw that I was busy messing with my dog Beau and just decided to keep on coming with her car even though I was still in that parking space. I am still angry about this type of behavior. And she was coming in at a good speed when she started to push me out of the way using her car as a broom. I had to slam the door and get close to the car to make sure she did not hit me with her car.

There was a witness who did not seem to believe what this woman did too. She saw the glare I gave the woman. Again this could have been a woman of 55 or so. The witness was a Senior of maybe 70-85.

Well, this additional information really changes things. I didn't realize she stopped, saw you clearly, and then sped up. I didn't know you had to "slam the door" to get out of the way. And then there was a witness that confirmed her outrageous behavior. Wow! Sorry for your unfortunate experience. And stay vigilant. Hope Beau is alright, too.

[outlaw]

Maybe lobster benedict for breakfast? Seems like the last 24 hrs. on TOTV has brought back the handicapped parking/rude people/cyclist on roads threads.
Anyone want to resurrect seat saving, coyotes, and MMP striping?

The flowers have just been replaced...it's a quarterly thing.

[outlaw]

It's called an analogy. Please try to keep up.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I know...Please see your psychiatrist.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[golfing eagles]

I know...Please see your psychiatrist.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I made weekly appointments:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Of course, I'm treating HIM.
Care to join for group therapy?????

[golfing eagles]

The flowers have just been replaced...it's a quarterly thing.

Forgot that one. Sorry.

[Taltarzac725]

There's a retired psychiatric social worker who comes to Doggie Doo Run Run often in these early Winter months. He has the most timid dog named Moo.

He is fun to talk to at times. Except when the Patriots lose especially if it is to the Ravens.

I can see some of this discussion though sending him to see his psychiatrist if he even has one.

[outlaw]

I made weekly appointments:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Of course, I'm treating HIM.
Care to join for group therapy?????

I would love to...now about that placard. Can you help me out? Oh wait, I think this $100 bill just fell out of your pocket.

[tomwed]

What is your intention? Try reading ALL the thread posts instead of just jumping in and slinging mud. That scenario was NOT my creative invention. It was the OPs! My intention was to give my opinion. Go to facebook if you want group think.
It's true. I read everything but don't remember everything I read. I'm sorry if I thought you were suggesting police officers, guns and tasers when it was someone else's worst case scenario.
I meant no harm.
I see a steady stream of imaginative people predicting the worst who are living in the safest place I have ever lived.

[Taltarzac725]

It's true. I read everything but don't remember everything I read. I'm sorry if I thought you were suggesting police officers, guns and tasers when it was someone else's worst case scenario.
I meant no harm.
I see a steady stream of imaginative people predicting the worst who are living in the safest place I have ever lived.

I can imagine this woman doing this to someone else in the Villages and having quite a different outcome. I avoid confrontation as much as possible; others run to it.

Hopefully, she was having a very bad day and this will not happen again that she uses her car as a broom.

[golfing eagles]

I would love to...now about that placard. Can you help me out? Oh wait, I think this $100 bill just fell out of your pocket.

So far, a lot of this is just tongue in cheek fun. Some of it is serious considering what happened to the OP. But this last comment of yours borders on the insulting.
Now if you really, really want one, I'll open the bidding at 5 million:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[RickeyD]

You obviously haven't read the COMPLETE thread.

Duly noted :shocked:

[golfing eagles]

I can imagine this woman doing this to someone else in the Villages and having quite a different outcome. I avoid confrontation as much as possible; others run to it.

Hopefully, she was having a very bad day and this will not happen again that she uses her car as a broom.

That's very true. Personally, I'm non-violent. But if she did this to me, intentionally, she would need that broom to sweep up the pieces of what is left of her car. I'll face the vandalism charge and make restitution. How will she handle the reckless endangerment and assault with a deadly weapon charges????

[Taltarzac725]

That's very true. Personally, I'm non-violent. But if she did this to me, intentionally, she would need that broom to sweep up the pieces of what is left of her car. I'll face the vandalism charge and make restitution. How will she handle the reckless endangerment and assault with a deadly weapon charges????

She did stop her car and I stopped fiddling with Beau to she what she was doing. When she started coming in I tried to get Beau in as best I could without putting his tail in harm's way, slammed the door, and got to the other side of the car. Then I left after giving her back the hardest glare I had in me.

I have never seen this woman before this. Beau does have a problem with a certain dog--Milo-- that comes to the Postal Center but this was not that dog's owner. That is all Beau's fault too as far as Milo is concerned as for some reason he just really dislikes Milo even though they have never come face-to-face.

Milo's owner does walk with a cane so I try to be as sensitive to her needs as possible by taking Beau where Milo is not.

[tomwed]

What is your intention?
Was that a rhetorical question?

[outlaw]

So far, a lot of this is just tongue in cheek fun. Some of it is serious considering what happened to the OP. But this last comment of yours borders on the insulting.
Now if you really, really want one, I'll open the bidding at 5 million:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I know you hope I fall into the trap of the inexperienced and counter with "let's split the difference", but....

[outlaw]

Was that a rhetorical question?

If you prefer it that way.

[outlaw]

She did stop her car and I stopped fiddling with Beau to she what she was doing. When she started coming in I tried to get Beau in as best I could without putting his tail in harm's way, slammed the door, and got to the other side of the car. Then I left after giving her back the hardest glare I had in me.

I have never seen this woman before this. Beau does have a problem with a certain dog--Milo-- that comes to the Postal Center but this was not that dog's owner. That is all Beau's fault too as far as Milo is concerned as for some reason he just really dislikes Milo even though they have never come face-to-face.

Milo's owner does walk with a cane so I try to be as sensitive to her needs as possible by taking Beau where Milo is not.

Tal, I was finished with this until your last post. Now I'm not saying this is so, but could it be that when she stopped and you looked up at her, she thought you were aware of her presence, and by not gesturing for her to not enter, she started edging in thinking innocently that you would let her know if she was intruding on you? This could have just been a big misunderstanding. If I were you, I would chalk this up to a mistake, not an intentional aggression.

[golfing eagles]

I know you hope I fall into the trap of the inexperienced and counter with "let's split the difference", but....

OK, 10 million and we'll split the difference:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[golfing eagles]

Tal, I was finished with this until your last post. Now I'm not saying this is so, but could it be that when she stopped and you looked up at her, she thought you were aware of her presence, and by not gesturing for her to not enter, she started edging in thinking innocently that you would let her know if she was intruding on you? This could have just been a big misunderstanding. If I were you, I would chalk this up to a mistake, not an intentional aggression.

Isn't it more logical to stay stopped and not move until you're gestured to proceed? It's sort of like driving at a pedestrian crossing the road at 45 mph. and planning to continue unless the pedestrian gives you a stop gesture. I, of course, would have a different gesture in mind.....

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by tomwed View Post
Was that a rhetorical question?
If you prefer it that way.
No not really. I'm not being cagey.

I want you to say what you want.

Like when you see someone and you ask "How's it going?" You want to hear "Great" not their life story since the last time you saw them.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by tomwed View Post
Was that a rhetorical question?
If you prefer it that way.
No not really. I want you to say what you want.

Be careful what you wish for:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[tomwed]

I'm speechless.

[Sandtrap328]

That post covered at least 5 years of living in The Villages.

I laughed so hard that I almost spilled my morning beer!

:BigApplause:

[dbussone]

Maybe lobster benedict for breakfast? Seems like the last 24 hrs. on TOTV has brought back the handicapped parking/rude people/cyclist on roads threads.

Anyone want to resurrect seat saving, coyotes, and MMP striping?


Or dog poop.

[golfing eagles]

Or dog poop.

Please, please, please---not the dog poop again, it's a $h1tty topic:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[tomwed]

Please, please, please---not the dog poop again, it's a $h1tty topic:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
You're just being fecetious.

[dbussone]

You're just being fecetious.


And a party pooper.

[Taltarzac725]

Breakfast over
I was on my way to pick up the mail which is next to the doggie park. I see this young person walking a dog that just did it's business. The young whipper snapper simply walks away without picking up the evidence. I was so upset that these young people have no respect for our community I shouted out you must be 55 to live here. The young person flipped me the bird and I did an immedite U turn in my golf cart. I fell out of the cart because I forgot to put my seat belt on. I lie there on the ground and another golf cart almost runs me over. I was in district 4 where the MMPs are stripped and the driver refused to cross the line to get to the other lane. The Community Watch guy shows up and tells me not to move. I tell I'm alright but I obey his authority. I think he has authority. Well I had plenty of time to reflect on should I pay off my bond or will I loose my tax deduction - no conclusion. The EMT's finally arrived far over their usual 6 minute response time and were very apoligetic. They explained they were on a call to rescue a snowbird that fliped their car over in a roundabout. They wre trying to avoid a bicyclist that flipped them the bird for not giving three feet clearance. EMT's explained the good news for the birds was immedite entry to The Villages Hospital due to being transported in. Out of no where the police show up and drill me if I been drinking and driving my golf cart on a MMP. I said I only had one which I got at the square during happy hour. I explain I felt guilty passing the square without supporting The Developer for providing me such a great place to live. I also hear tell the developer may be in danger of not maximizing their profits. Well civic duty called. The LEO's stll made me walk the line. I passed the test - good thing cause I overheard them talking to each other did they really have jusistriction on a MMP. The dust has settled and I'm free to go. OH NO I just remember I have a tee time in 15 minutes - I'm already within the 20 minute rule. I put my cart to the boards. I must confess probably doing 22 mph but that's the risk I have to take. I know dam well if I get into an accident while speeding my insurance won't cover it. Dam the topedoes I'm late for golf. I get to Turtle Mound and there are no parking spots. Some ignorant inconsiderate person parked over the line taking up two spaces. Even though I'm late I stop and take a picture with my cell phone to send to "the other newspaper" tomorrow. I get to the starter shack window and this overly friendly man explains I lost my tee time and just earned myself three cancellation points. Dejected I leave. Back on the MMP I realize I have not eaten today. I wheel into one of the four one owner concession country club resturants for a bite. I forgot my customer loyalty card at home and had to pay full price for a drink. I order my meal and it took 1.2 hour to arrive and it was cold. I wanted to send it back but I read on TOTV never send food back to a kitchen. Do you know what they do to it in there? I get the manager (looks like 16 years old) to complain and to my surprise he apoligized and compted me dessert. Well I don't eat desserts so I pass. I leave quietly. I felt sorry for the owner because the place was so busy and they need to maximize profits during high season. I call it a night. I'm driving home and remember I started out to get the mail. I pull into the postal station and guess what I see. A person buckling a dog into the seat of their car while another inconsiderate renter is trying to run them down with her car in the adjacent parking spot.

Your turn.

Do you drive a white van and are a female with white hair and probably named ????

That's quite funny though. You forgot while you were reading Andrew Blechman's Leisureville borrowed from the Mark Twain volunteer library.

On another note. I do not believe this woman who almost ran me over was waiting for a come on through as my back was turned to her when she sped up after that stop as I was trying to get Beau into the car seat. I managed to get Beau in the seat, and slammed the door, and turned around while she was passing me a foot or so to my right with her car.

This person will probably be in the police blotter if she is not quite careful with her actions.