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Guest
01-16-2016, 05:14 PM
Trump has NO class!....Sure would like another option!....You would think that with 13 candidates I would have another choice... It's a quandary! HELP!

Guest
01-16-2016, 05:26 PM
Vote Cruz

Guest
01-16-2016, 05:39 PM
Trump has NO class!....Sure would like another option!....You would think that with 13 candidates I would have another choice... It's a quandary! HELP!

Dear Guest:

I would be very interested in learning from you how you define class? I would also appreciate if you would provide specific examples of those individuals you deem having class and those you believe do not have class? I don't count as having class or not having class.

OR do you mean that you cannot find one of 13 candidates with bona fides that meet your expectations?

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
01-16-2016, 06:13 PM
Dear Guest:

I would be very interested in learning from you how you define class? I would also appreciate if you would provide specific examples of those individuals you deem having class and those you believe do not have class? I don't count as having class or not having class.

OR do you mean that you cannot find one of 13 candidates with bona fides that meet your expectations?

Personal Best Regards:

:thumbup:

Guest
01-16-2016, 06:18 PM
After the last seven years with this administration, is PC as important as being a good leader? Are you looking for someone that hasn't appeared on a late night TV comedy show, or a daytime talk show? It ain't gonna happen.

To tell you the truth, Trump is actually looking more appealing to me every day. And he was my last choice of the GOP candidates about a month ago. Maybe it's time we had someone in there from the people's side that is action oriented, not politically oriented. I don't know of anyone else in the list that might be able to fill the position of damage repair.

Guest
01-16-2016, 06:20 PM
I think you may be missing what the American people are against.....political correctness is only a small piece of it.

It is all the crony, corrupt, special interest, minority group business as usual in Washington......FOR STARTERS!

You may not like his presentation, tenor, bombasity, arrogance, etc.....but he represents what most of us dislike in the poisoned politicals of today.

Guest
01-16-2016, 08:48 PM
If anyone thinks that they are going to get rid of politics in D.C. they are naive. The best you can do is do the least damage. Americans are very mistaken if they think they can do away with politics in politics. And the best we can do is clean up the hazardous waste/corruption as it spills. If you can't keep corruption out of cities, you can't expect to do it on a large scale like the Federal gov. All you can do is limit the damage and prosecute the perpetrators as you catch them.

Guest
01-17-2016, 12:50 AM
The only thing Trump is into is TRUMP. A poor excuse for President. Vote for Rubio.

Guest
01-17-2016, 05:56 AM
I think you may be missing what the American people are against.....political correctness is only a small piece of it.

It is all the crony, corrupt, special interest, minority group business as usual in Washington......FOR STARTERS!

You may not like his presentation, tenor, bombasity, arrogance, etc.....but he represents what most of us dislike in the poisoned politicals of today.

Dear Guest

I am skeptical of any candidate that makes populist remarks and especially one that says "trust me". Trump is parroting voters frustrations or concerns but while it establishes rapport it doesn't mean substance.

I actually like Trump's bluntness, his self confidence, etc but he is energy out of control. He is a guy that says "its my way or the highway" but that's what , as Christ Christy termed it, our petulant child Obama has done for his entire sty and its wrecked America.

Trump is a good businessman but he is a mercantilist not a free marketer and that can cause problems. His use of Ï""me" indicates he believes he can do it alone. The founders established the balance of powers purposefully so that 1) the minority were not ignored 2) it would be a slow and difficult process to get legislation through. One only has to look at Obamcare to recognize the wisdom in such construction

Please as voters we need to remove the emotion and approach our selection rationally because the one thing I believe is true this election year is that the choice is going to be a turning point in our history not unlike the election of our first president.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
01-17-2016, 06:06 AM
Dear Guest

I am skeptical of any candidate that makes populist remarks and especially one that says "trust me". Trump is parroting voters frustrations or concerns but while it establishes rapport it doesn't mean substance.

I actually like Trump's bluntness, his self confidence, etc but he is energy out of control. He is a guy that says "its my way or the highway" but that's what , as Christ Christy termed it, our petulant child Obama has done for his entire sty and its wrecked America.

Trump is a good businessman but he is a mercantilist not a free marketer and that can cause problems. His use of Ï""me" indicates he believes he can do it alone. The founders established the balance of powers purposefully so that 1) the minority were not ignored 2) it would be a slow and difficult process to get legislation through. One only has to look at Obamcare to recognize the wisdom in such construction

Please as voters we need to remove the emotion and approach our selection rationally because the one thing I believe is true this election year is that the choice is going to be a turning point in our history not unlike the election of our first president.

Personal Best Regards:

I think we are hearing a lot of campaigning right now. From what I have heard, ALL the candidates are using the "I" speech. They are trying to sell themselves to get the vote.
Trump doesn't need me to defend him. I am more likely to vote for Rubio too.

Guest
01-17-2016, 08:43 AM
Trump has NO class!....Sure would like another option!....You would think that with 13 candidates I would have another choice... It's a quandary! HELP!

Define "class" as you see it. Maybe we see class differently, or maybe you mean a different term.

You really do have an option of several candidates. But, what you have to consider is your motivation for that vote. Are you attempting to make a vote based on ethical or moral preference, or are you voting against the current liberal/socialist trend to the left? Do you want the country to move to the right or the left? Do you want to vote for someone that you feel can beat the opposing party or do you want to vote for what you feel is the best politically correct candidate? Lots of questions.

Not that you asked, but since I feel that any of the GOP candidates is better than what the other side is offering, my choice is pretty comfortable. After surviving seven years under this embarrassing administration, I can honestly say that it doesn't matter to me how unconventional the candidate is, I do not want another eight years of this country being torn up by a bunch of needy, dependent and lazy losers that hate our country and have no patriotic pride, so I won't have to hold my nose and vote. I will vote with confidence that my choice will be the right choice. No pun intended.

Trump did worry me at the beginning, but I can see that he fits into the political community pretty easily. His manner of speaking seems that of a dock worker, but I have a feeling that this is all showmanship and he is smarter than he sounds. We do need D.C. shaken up, but not the way Obama tore it up. He put up a wall between the right and left and totally ignored the right. We have never had a president so divisive in history, including Clinton. Clinton started out that same way, but learned fast that he was not going to get anything done. He succeeded, where Obama never learned in eight years. Obama really does seem a bit slow. I would be interested in seeing his transcripts, to see if this trait has followed him or if he is just not and never has been equipped to handle this job. But, I guess he is ashamed of his educational record and refuses to release it to the pubic. But, I digress.

I am still not committed to one particular candidate, leaving the option open until the day of the primaries. I am favoring one particular candidate, but have not totally ruled out Trump either. I doubt I will vote for Trump, but he is pretty decisive where the other candidates seem to be changing their stance according to the direction of the popular wind where they are campaigning. I do realize that this is typical politics, but Trump seems to be able to get away with his solid stance on issues.

"Class" is not an issue with me, but if you can buy "class" then Trump is able to own it.

Guest
01-17-2016, 10:05 AM
Showing class. If you have class, you don't make fun of a person's appearance especially a woman. You don't make fun of a person energy, Bush. You don't point out a person's position on the stage. You don't question a person's right to become president, and then say I am just giving him advice. You don't backtrack on your over the top comments. You don't stand on the stage during a debate, and make funny faces.

Trump is a horse's ass. That statement means I don't have class. Oh, well. Too bad! So sad!

If you have class, you stick to issues, and make your positions known. If you say that you are going to get rid of something like Obamacare, you put your replacement out there. You knowing don't blow smoke to get elected, and then run away from your campaign promises.

Trump, and Cruz are nothing but noise.

On the previous post, we have never had a president as divisive as Obama. The assumption is that the Republican Congress doesn't have any responsibility for what happen. Mitch McConnell is the king of the filibuster. Boehner wouldn't put anything on the floor for a vote, in particular the bipartisan immigration bill, unless it passed the Hastert rule. Paul Ryan wouldn't accept the Speaker of the House position, if the Republican House members didn't change their attitude. There is plenty of blame to go around for the last 7+ years.

Guest
01-17-2016, 10:37 AM
Showing class. If you have class, you don't make fun of a person's appearance especially a woman. You don't make fun of a person energy, Bush. You don't point out a person's position on the stage. You don't question a person's right to become president, and then say I am just giving him advice. You don't backtrack on your over the top comments. You don't stand on the stage during a debate, and make funny faces.

Trump is a horse's ass. That statement means I don't have class. Oh, well. Too bad! So sad!

If you have class, you stick to issues, and make your positions known. If you say that you are going to get rid of something like Obamacare, you put your replacement out there. You knowing don't blow smoke to get elected, and then run away from your campaign promises.

Trump, and Cruz are nothing but noise.

On the previous post, we have never had a president as divisive as Obama. The assumption is that the Republican Congress doesn't have any responsibility for what happen. Mitch McConnell is the king of the filibuster. Boehner wouldn't put anything on the floor for a vote, in particular the bipartisan immigration bill, unless it passed the Hastert rule. Paul Ryan wouldn't accept the Speaker of the House position, if the Republican House members didn't change their attitude. There is plenty of blame to go around for the last 7+ years.

Ok, got it. According to your definition of "class" Harry Reid, Pelosi, Obama, Grayson, Debbie Whatshername are all guilty of being without "class." So, what is your problem, other than they are of a different party?

You do remember the two years of filibuster proof congress, don't you? You know, the first two years, where Obamacare was forced through illegally, without the proper majority vote? Oh, and how many bills did Harry keep on his desk, refusing to allow a vote? Yes, I realize that you feel that it is a waste of his time if they are not Democrat bills. But, that is for another thread. One where you will have time to ask someone for a witty answer, because you appear to be too lazy to research your information for yourself.

Guest
01-17-2016, 10:39 AM
Showing class. If you have class, you don't make fun of a person's appearance especially a woman. You don't make fun of a person energy, Bush. You don't point out a person's position on the stage. You don't question a person's right to become president, and then say I am just giving him advice. You don't backtrack on your over the top comments. You don't stand on the stage during a debate, and make funny faces.

Trump is a horse's ass. That statement means I don't have class. Oh, well. Too bad! So sad!

If you have class, you stick to issues, and make your positions known. If you say that you are going to get rid of something like Obamacare, you put your replacement out there. You knowing don't blow smoke to get elected, and then run away from your campaign promises.

Trump, and Cruz are nothing but noise.

On the previous post, we have never had a president as divisive as Obama. The assumption is that the Republican Congress doesn't have any responsibility for what happen. Mitch McConnell is the king of the filibuster. Boehner wouldn't put anything on the floor for a vote, in particular the bipartisan immigration bill, unless it passed the Hastert rule. Paul Ryan wouldn't accept the Speaker of the House position, if the Republican House members didn't change their attitude. There is plenty of blame to go around for the last 7+ years.

Well, if Trump is a horse's @ss, then I guess we will be trading one for another pretty soon.

Guest
01-17-2016, 10:51 AM
Trump has NO class!....Sure would like another option!....You would think that with 13 candidates I would have another choice... It's a quandary! HELP!

instead of depending on strangers to educate you on their likely biased opinion.

Guest
01-17-2016, 03:26 PM
In the first place,everything Trump does is first class. If you have ever been to one of his properties, you would realize that. He always hires top notch, competent people to run his operation. Is anybody impressed with the quality and competence of Obama's appointees? I'm thinking of Trump as more of a 'turn around specialist", and I don't particularly care if he is considered a true conservative or not, whatever being a true conservative means. I expect him to appoint top notch competent people, run the country like a business and "make America great again".

Guest
01-17-2016, 04:36 PM
If anyone thinks that they are going to get rid of politics in D.C. they are naive. The best you can do is do the least damage. Americans are very mistaken if they think they can do away with politics in politics. And the best we can do is clean up the hazardous waste/corruption as it spills. If you can't keep corruption out of cities, you can't expect to do it on a large scale like the Federal gov. All you can do is limit the damage and prosecute the perpetrators as you catch them.

I am glad you and that attitude are not in charge of ridding the world of ISIS. If you have 4 flat tires and a defective starter in your car, fixing the starter won't get the car working. We need reform the political system, so anything but an attitude to work at fixing the entire problem is unacceptable.

Guest
01-17-2016, 05:07 PM
Showing class. If you have class, you don't make fun of a person's appearance especially a woman. You don't make fun of a person energy, Bush. You don't point out a person's position on the stage. You don't question a person's right to become president, and then say I am just giving him advice. You don't backtrack on your over the top comments. You don't stand on the stage during a debate, and make funny faces.

Trump is a horse's ass. That statement means I don't have class. Oh, well. Too bad! So sad!

If you have class, you stick to issues, and make your positions known. If you say that you are going to get rid of something like Obamacare, you put your replacement out there. You knowing don't blow smoke to get elected, and then run away from your campaign promises.

Trump, and Cruz are nothing but noise.

On the previous post, we have never had a president as divisive as Obama. The assumption is that the Republican Congress doesn't have any responsibility for what happen. Mitch McConnell is the king of the filibuster. Boehner wouldn't put anything on the floor for a vote, in particular the bipartisan immigration bill, unless it passed the Hastert rule. Paul Ryan wouldn't accept the Speaker of the House position, if the Republican House members didn't change their attitude. There is plenty of blame to go around for the last 7+ years.

So let us add Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, Clinton and a cast of 1000's to your list of some being without class and most all others unable to work effectively for "we the people". I agree that Trump is very rough around the edges, but he is saying what much of the public is thinking, and he is not committed to special interest groups making him, I believe, the only candidate that will be able to actually keep his campaign promises.

Guest
01-17-2016, 05:47 PM
I also believe that if he is nominated and then elected he will find out soon enough what he can and cannot do once in office. However, being who and what he is when the things he is trying to do for the country get bogged down by the politics as usual cronyism crowd, he will rally the American people to force their represtatives to do their job.....REPRESENT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.......bringing America back to where they want America to be.......Trump will have an effect on how business is done or not in Washington.

He therefore has enemies of the establishment in both partiies.

Guest
01-17-2016, 05:57 PM
In the first place,everything Trump does is first class. If you have ever been to one of his properties, you would realize that. He always hires top notch, competent people to run his operation. Is anybody impressed with the quality and competence of Obama's appointees? I'm thinking of Trump as more of a 'turn around specialist", and I don't particularly care if he is considered a true conservative or not, whatever being a true conservative means. I expect him to appoint top notch competent people, run the country like a business and "make America great again".

:thumbup:

Guest
01-17-2016, 06:05 PM
Rubio is backed by the Koch brothers is that a good thing.

Guest
01-17-2016, 06:11 PM
Rubio is backed by the Koch brothers is that a good thing.

Why not? Obama was backed by Soros, the socialist. Is that a good thing?

Guest
01-17-2016, 06:13 PM
:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:Showing class. If you have class, you don't make fun of a person's appearance especially a woman. You don't make fun of a person energy, Bush. You don't point out a person's position on the stage. You don't question a person's right to become president, and then say I am just giving him advice. You don't backtrack on your over the top comments. You don't stand on the stage during a debate, and make funny faces.

Trump is a horse's ass. That statement means I don't have class. Oh, well. Too bad! So sad!

If you have class, you stick to issues, and make your positions known. If you say that you are going to get rid of something like Obamacare, you put your replacement out there. You knowing don't blow smoke to get elected, and then run away from your campaign promises.

Trump, and Cruz are nothing but noise.

On the previous post, we have never had a president as divisive as Obama. The assumption is that the Republican Congress doesn't have any responsibility for what happen. Mitch McConnell is the king of the filibuster. Boehner wouldn't put anything on the floor for a vote, in particular the bipartisan immigration bill, unless it passed the Hastert rule. Paul Ryan wouldn't accept the Speaker of the House position, if the Republican House members didn't change their attitude. There is plenty of blame to go around for the last 7+ years.

Guest
01-17-2016, 09:46 PM
Ok, got it. According to your definition of "class" Harry Reid, Pelosi, Obama, Grayson, Debbie Whatshername are all guilty of being without "class." So, what is your problem, other than they are of a different party?

You do remember the two years of filibuster proof congress, don't you? You know, the first two years, where Obamacare was forced through illegally, without the proper majority vote? Oh, and how many bills did Harry keep on his desk, refusing to allow a vote? Yes, I realize that you feel that it is a waste of his time if they are not Democrat bills. But, that is for another thread. One where you will have time to ask someone for a witty answer, because you appear to be too lazy to research your information for yourself.

When you try to fire a shot at someone, maybe should do your own research, because you are operating without a clue on Obamacare.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act

I know this is an awful lot of reading for you, so skip to the Senate portion. The Republicans didn't have 40 votes to continue with their filibuster. The votes to end the filibuster, and pass the law was 60 to 39. It has withstood two Supreme Court cases. Just because Republicans here always harp on the fact that it pasted illegally doesn't make it so. Read there entire article, and you will see how Obama did try to work with Republicans.

Since you have tagged those Democrats as classless, please name me one representative or senator that actually has class. Washington is a classless society.

How many votes did Harry keep on his desk? I am not sure, but there were at least 54+ votes to repeal Obamacare? That went up to 61. You have to admit it stupidity has no bounds. How did the vote to repeal Obamacare get passed in the Senate? There wasn't any Republican dancing around the filibuster rule was there? Hell no! The Republicans would stoop to something so low as that. How stupid do you to be to think Obama is not going to veto the bill? Republicans must think their followers are really stupid that a veto is necessary to convince them that the Republicans in the Senate and House aren't in favor of the bill. Sending a bill to repeal Obamacare 61 times isn't enough to get their point across to their followers.

Guest
01-17-2016, 10:34 PM
When you try to fire a shot at someone, maybe should do your own research, because you are operating without a clue on Obamacare.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act

I know this is an awful lot of reading for you, so skip to the Senate portion. The Republicans didn't have 40 votes to continue with their filibuster. The votes to end the filibuster, and pass the law was 60 to 39. It has withstood two Supreme Court cases. Just because Republicans here always harp on the fact that it pasted illegally doesn't make it so. Read there entire article, and you will see how Obama did try to work with Republicans.

Since you have tagged those Democrats as classless, please name me one representative or senator that actually has class. Washington is a classless society.

How many votes did Harry keep on his desk? I am not sure, but there were at least 54+ votes to repeal Obamacare? That went up to 61. You have to admit it stupidity has no bounds. How did the vote to repeal Obamacare get passed in the Senate? There wasn't any Republican dancing around the filibuster rule was there? Hell no! The Republicans would stoop to something so low as that. How stupid do you to be to think Obama is not going to veto the bill? Republicans must think their followers are really stupid that a veto is necessary to convince them that the Republicans in the Senate and House aren't in favor of the bill. Sending a bill to repeal Obamacare 61 times isn't enough to get their point across to their followers.

100 percent agree!
We have discussed this topic many times at our regular meeting at City Fire. The discussion gets better after a Makers Mark or three. :beer3:

Guest
01-18-2016, 05:24 AM
Showing class. If you have class, you don't make fun of a person's appearance especially a woman. You don't make fun of a person energy, Bush. You don't point out a person's position on the stage. You don't question a person's right to become president, and then say I am just giving him advice. You don't backtrack on your over the top comments. You don't stand on the stage during a debate, and make funny faces.

Trump is a horse's ass. That statement means I don't have class. Oh, well. Too bad! So sad!

If you have class, you stick to issues, and make your positions known. If you say that you are going to get rid of something like Obamacare, you put your replacement out there. You knowing don't blow smoke to get elected, and then run away from your campaign promises.

Trump, and Cruz are nothing but noise.

On the previous post, we have never had a president as divisive as Obama. The assumption is that the Republican Congress doesn't have any responsibility for what happen. Mitch McConnell is the king of the filibuster. Boehner wouldn't put anything on the floor for a vote, in particular the bipartisan immigration bill, unless it passed the Hastert rule. Paul Ryan wouldn't accept the Speaker of the House position, if the Republican House members didn't change their attitude. There is plenty of blame to go around for the last 7+ years.

Dear Guest: On our side of the world I would agree to much of what you say. However, in the world of politics its eat or be eaten. In the world of politics everybody's your friend...not Witness how quickly Trump disarmed Bush by labeling him weak and low energy. Trump is good at sizing people up and he hit a home run there. Criticism is a tactic to disarm your opponent and even appearance is not off limits. Body language accounts for half of what one communicates and a funny face at the appropriate time can reap many benefits.

I despise politicians and politics but politics to a varying degree exists everywhere and it destroys many a good person. In the corporate world it is as fierce . Anyone coming into politics believing everyone is going to play fair and nice is being naive'. In the corporate world fierce political players are termed nut cutters, pardon the term. I lived that life like many here in TV and if you try and separate yourself as not being in the game they will roll right over you

the stakes are higher when you are running for a political office and the higher the office the higher the stakes and the higher the stakes the fiercer the game . Its not only Trump and Cruz who won't stick to an issue and/or are all noise its every candidate out there. One of the skills needed to run for office is to be an artful dodger....and frankly sometime its necessary because there are a lot of "got you" people out there.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
01-18-2016, 08:30 AM
Dear Guest: On our side of the world I would agree to much of what you say. However, in the world of politics its eat or be eaten. In the world of politics everybody's your friend...not Witness how quickly Trump disarmed Bush by labeling him weak and low energy. Trump is good at sizing people up and he hit a home run there. Criticism is a tactic to disarm your opponent and even appearance is not off limits. Body language accounts for half of what one communicates and a funny face at the appropriate time can reap many benefits.

I despise politicians and politics but politics to a varying degree exists everywhere and it destroys many a good person. In the corporate world it is as fierce . Anyone coming into politics believing everyone is going to play fair and nice is being naive'. In the corporate world fierce political players are termed nut cutters, pardon the term. I lived that life like many here in TV and if you try and separate yourself as not being in the game they will roll right over you

the stakes are higher when you are running for a political office and the higher the office the higher the stakes and the higher the stakes the fiercer the game . Its not only Trump and Cruz who won't stick to an issue and/or are all noise its every candidate out there. One of the skills needed to run for office is to be an artful dodger....and frankly sometime its necessary because there are a lot of "got you" people out there.

Personal Best Regards:

I totally agree with you. Rule one is politics is say anything or do anything to get elected. Then, run for reelection on your record. If you have the best ideas in the world, they are worthless, if you don't get elected.

It is a given, that almost all candidates, whether they are questioned on TV, or in a debate, will do everything to avoid answering the question. A lot of the questions are pointed to either make them look bad, or go into detail something that they that said that made little sense, and were only made to get someone's vote. We are getting what we paid for dishonesty at its highest.

Sanders said that he has never gone negative in his campaigns. Right now, he doesn't have a choice. Hillary knows that she may not be the Democratic nominee, if she doesn't go negative on him. Since she is a real bitch, she is right at home going negative. If Sanders win both Iowa, and New Hampshire, another Democrat will enter the race probably someone, who has run before. If either Sanders or Clinton get elected, things in DC will get worse.

Trump is holding true to form by calling Cruz abrasive. He hit the nail on the head with that one. It was pointed out on Morning Joe this morning that Cruz, who is really hated in DC, couldn't get one Senator to bring something to the floor for discussion. How the hell is he going to get anything done , when both parties in DC don't like him.

Right now, we have the worse of all worlds. Trump, Cruz, Sanders, or Clinton being our next president would mean stop watch news programs on TV, and stop buying the newspaper. Nothing good will come out of any of these four.

Guest
01-18-2016, 10:03 AM
I totally agree with you. Rule one is politics is say anything or do anything to get elected. Then, run for reelection on your record. If you have the best ideas in the world, they are worthless, if you don't get elected.

It is a given, that almost all candidates, whether they are questioned on TV, or in a debate, will do everything to avoid answering the question. A lot of the questions are pointed to either make them look bad, or go into detail something that they that said that made little sense, and were only made to get someone's vote. We are getting what we paid for dishonesty at its highest.

Sanders said that he has never gone negative in his campaigns. Right now, he doesn't have a choice. Hillary knows that she may not be the Democratic nominee, if she doesn't go negative on him. Since she is a real bitch, she is right at home going negative. If Sanders win both Iowa, and New Hampshire, another Democrat will enter the race probably someone, who has run before. If either Sanders or Clinton get elected, things in DC will get worse.

Trump is holding true to form by calling Cruz abrasive. He hit the nail on the head with that one. It was pointed out on Morning Joe this morning that Cruz, who is really hated in DC, couldn't get one Senator to bring something to the floor for discussion. How the hell is he going to get anything done , when both parties in DC don't like him.

Right now, we have the worse of all worlds. Trump, Cruz, Sanders, or Clinton being our next president would mean stop watch news programs on TV, and stop buying the newspaper. Nothing good will come out of any of these four.

Fortunately there are candidates other than "these four"..........unfortunately not so for the democrats, hence they are stuck with one of the other republicans as well!

Guest
01-18-2016, 10:29 AM
Keeping with the theme of the thread,

To liberals, if it is not PC then it is hate speech.

O'Malley during last night's debate, insisted that the other candidates not use the term "boots on the ground" because he said it is not politically correct. It offended someone he knew, so it is not a good term and must not be used.

Guest
01-18-2016, 11:18 AM
Fortunately there are candidates other than "these four"..........unfortunately not so for the democrats, hence they are stuck with one of the other republicans as well!

I hear what you are saying, but where do they go. I am an independent, but also a realist. If Kasich is still in the running at the time of the Florida primary, I will change my party and vote for him. If he isn't, I will not vote in the primary.

Rubio is inexperienced. Christie is loud, and may still have problem with the George Washington bridge nonsense. Bush name is a problem, but I may vote for him, if he is the Republican nominee. He is the lesser of all evils.

Guest
01-18-2016, 11:29 AM
Keeping with the theme of the thread,

To liberals, if it is not PC then it is hate speech.

O'Malley during last night's debate, insisted that the other candidates not use the term "boots on the ground" because he said it is not politically correct. It offended someone he knew, so it is not a good term and must not be used.


'To liberals, if it is not PC then it is hate speech." Does that mean that Clinton, and Sanders are not liberals, because they used the term "boots on the ground"? If they candidates can't say anything, because it may offend someone, then they won't be able to talk at all. That sounds like a great idea. They will all have to be mute. The person that can dance, juggle, make people or things disappear, or do a balance act will be our next president. Their first act will be to balance the budget, and juggling the books is not acceptable. They will have to make Congress disappear first, or they will not be able to balance the budget. All of our problem are gone. Go PC! Go!

Guest
01-18-2016, 11:41 AM
'To liberals, if it is not PC then it is hate speech." Does that mean that Clinton, and Sanders are not liberals, because they used the term "boots on the ground"? If they candidates can't say anything, because it may offend someone, then they won't be able to talk at all. That sounds like a great idea. They will all have to be mute. The person that can dance, juggle, make people or things disappear, or do a balance act will be our next president. Their first act will be to balance the budget, and juggling the books is not acceptable. They will have to make Congress disappear first, or they will not be able to balance the budget. All of our problem are gone. Go PC! Go!

Great idea! Automatically appoint the person that can make Obama disappear to the presidency. WHo knows, it might be Trump.

Guest
01-18-2016, 11:46 AM
Keeping with the theme of the thread,

To liberals, if it is not PC then it is hate speech.

O'Malley during last night's debate, insisted that the other candidates not use the term "boots on the ground" because he said it is not politically correct. It offended someone he knew, so it is not a good term and must not be used.

O'Malley's comments are very telling, very progressive, very naive' and very dangerous

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
01-18-2016, 11:48 AM
Don't get me wrong, but what is the point of declaring that you are an Independent? They have no primary voting rights, and anyone can vote any party they wish in the general election. So, what's the point? Is it fear of someone associating another with a particular party stigma? I asked my brother (registered Independent) and all he could say is that he is neither Republican nor Democrat, but yet he has ALWAYS voted Republican. I am a Republican but I can vote Democrat (bite my tongue) in the general if I wish.

Guest
01-18-2016, 11:49 AM
'To liberals, if it is not PC then it is hate speech." Does that mean that Clinton, and Sanders are not liberals, because they used the term "boots on the ground"? If they candidates can't say anything, because it may offend someone, then they won't be able to talk at all. That sounds like a great idea. They will all have to be mute. The person that can dance, juggle, make people or things disappear, or do a balance act will be our next president. Their first act will be to balance the budget, and juggling the books is not acceptable. They will have to make Congress disappear first, or they will not be able to balance the budget. All of our problem are gone. Go PC! Go!

Dear guest:

I saw what you did. However just because Clinton and Sanders can say it doesn't necessitate that they are capable of actually carrying it out.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
01-18-2016, 11:51 AM
If Trump becomes the next President, God help us all. Please, please we think the whole idea of Trump being the ONLY solution for America! Other nations are already balking at the idea of Trump as our leader. Ugh!

Guest
01-18-2016, 11:53 AM
If Trump becomes the next President, God help us all. Please, please re-think the whole idea of Trump being the ONLY solution for America! Other nations are already balking at the idea of Trump as our leader. Ugh! Maybe Rubio

Guest
01-18-2016, 11:54 AM
'To liberals, if it is not PC then it is hate speech." Does that mean that Clinton, and Sanders are not liberals, because they used the term "boots on the ground"? If they candidates can't say anything, because it may offend someone, then they won't be able to talk at all. That sounds like a great idea. They will all have to be mute. The person that can dance, juggle, make people or things disappear, or do a balance act will be our next president. Their first act will be to balance the budget, and juggling the books is not acceptable. They will have to make Congress disappear first, or they will not be able to balance the budget. All of our problem are gone. Go PC! Go!

It worked for the current incompetent in chief!!!!

Guest
01-18-2016, 11:54 AM
Don't get me wrong, but what is the point of declaring that you are an Independent? They have no primary voting rights, and anyone can vote any party they wish in the general election. So, what's the point? Is it fear of someone associating another with a particular party stigma? I asked my brother (registered Independent) and all he could say is that he is neither Republican nor Democrat, but yet he has ALWAYS voted Republican. I am a Republican but I can vote Democrat (bite my tongue) in the general if I wish.

Dear Guest: You comments brought a smile to my face. I recall a conversation with a guy from Iowa. I remarked that my politics were in the middle. His response was " the only thing in the middle of the road are yellow lines and skunks:D

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Guest
01-18-2016, 12:06 PM
I totally agree with you. Rule one is politics is say anything or do anything to get elected. Then, run for reelection on your record. If you have the best ideas in the world, they are worthless, if you don't get elected.

It is a given, that almost all candidates, whether they are questioned on TV, or in a debate, will do everything to avoid answering the question. A lot of the questions are pointed to either make them look bad, or go into detail something that they that said that made little sense, and were only made to get someone's vote. We are getting what we paid for dishonesty at its highest.

Sanders said that he has never gone negative in his campaigns. Right now, he doesn't have a choice. Hillary knows that she may not be the Democratic nominee, if she doesn't go negative on him. Since she is a real bitch, she is right at home going negative. If Sanders win both Iowa, and New Hampshire, another Democrat will enter the race probably someone, who has run before. If either Sanders or Clinton get elected, things in DC will get worse.

Trump is holding true to form by calling Cruz abrasive. He hit the nail on the head with that one. It was pointed out on Morning Joe this morning that Cruz, who is really hated in DC, couldn't get one Senator to bring something to the floor for discussion. How the hell is he going to get anything done , when both parties in DC don't like him.

Right now, we have the worse of all worlds. Trump, Cruz, Sanders, or Clinton being our next president would mean stop watch news programs on TV, and stop buying the newspaper. Nothing good will come out of any of these four.
It doesn't matter who gets elected. Not one person on these forums has said they will have to move from TV because Bush or Obama was President.
Thinking that a democrat or republican president will ruin America is idiotic. All they do is give us something to argue about until our next feeding time.

Guest
01-18-2016, 12:24 PM
It doesn't matter who gets elected. Not one person on these forums has said they will have to move from TV because Bush or Obama was President.
Thinking that a democrat or republican president will ruin America is idiotic. All they do is give us something to argue about until our next feeding time.

You are either naive or blind, or possibly just not informed. A liberal in the White House right now, will get the chance to appoint at least three liberal supreme judges, making the whole court unbalanced and biased. They nothing limiting them, no governor so to speak.

If we get another liberal in there at this delicate time in our history, we will be part of Europe in a couple of years.....a failed ideology, a clone state of Europe. America will not fall, it will morph into something ugly....no longer America other than possibly the name.

Doomsday speech? I welcome a different scenario. To me, Free has nothing to do with benefits, but an element of Liberty.

Guest
01-18-2016, 12:26 PM
If Trump becomes the next President, God help us all. Please, please we think the whole idea of Trump being the ONLY solution for America! Other nations are already balking at the idea of Trump as our leader. Ugh!

That is one of the best reasons for me to change my vote to vote FOR him. That is an excellent reason to vote for him, in itself.

Guest
01-18-2016, 12:59 PM
It doesn't matter who gets elected. Not one person on these forums has said they will have to move from TV because Bush or Obama was President.
Thinking that a democrat or republican president will ruin America is idiotic. All they do is give us something to argue about until our next feeding time.

Who said that they will ruin America? The parties are so far apart that nothing will get down. Listen to what Rand Paul terms as "empty politics".Rand Paul Celebrates Hostage Release, Decries Partisanship (http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Rand-Paul-Celebrates-Iran-Hostage-Release/2016/01/18/id/709875/)

Did he hit the nail right on the head when he said we must appose everything Obama says or does as a matter of politics even though we may agree with him on some things.

Guest
01-18-2016, 01:56 PM
I honestly cannot understand how otherwise intelligent, rational people can support a Trump candidacy. He is a totally empty suit, a self promoter, and canny marketer who has built a following based on marketing slogans that have no substance, but seemingly resonate with a large portion of people's basest instincts. Please tell me how he will build a wall across the southern border AND MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR IT? Just as small example of taking a crazy simplistic idea, that appeals to zealots, and doubling down on it, sending into the twilight zone. Would you really feel good about the prospect of a president trump conducting foreign diplomacy? There are so many things wrong with this man as a human, much less as the prospective leader of the free world, that I cannot take this phenomenon seriously.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
01-18-2016, 02:09 PM
I honestly cannot understand how otherwise intelligent, rational people can support a Trump candidacy. He is a totally empty suit, a self promoter, and canny marketer who has built a following based on marketing slogans that have no substance, but seemingly resonate with a large portion of people's basest instincts. Please tell me how he will build a wall across the southern border AND MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR IT? Just as small example of taking a crazy simplistic idea, that appeals to zealots, and doubling down on it, sending into the twilight zone. Would you really feel good about the prospect of a president trump conducting foreign diplomacy? There are so many things wrong with this man as a human, much less as the prospective leader of the free world, that I cannot take this phenomenon seriously.

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Actually, after last night's debate YES. Yes, I would prefer Trump over any of the idiots that I witnessed last night on the democrat-socialist debate. After listening to them squabble over who is the most socialist and who is going to give the most free stuff, Trump suddenly looks smarter than he did the day before.

Guest
01-18-2016, 02:32 PM
Actually, after last night's debate YES. Yes, I would prefer Trump over any of the idiots that I witnessed last night on the democrat-socialist debate. After listening to them squabble over who is the most socialist and who is going to give the most free stuff, Trump suddenly looks smarter than he did the day before.

Sorry, I should have made myself clearer - I was referring to "intelligent, rational people".

Guest
01-18-2016, 02:42 PM
Sorry, I should have made myself clearer - I was referring to "intelligent, rational people".

Since when did that make a difference?? :pepper2:

Guest
01-18-2016, 08:28 PM
I honestly cannot understand how otherwise intelligent, rational people can support a Trump candidacy. He is a totally empty suit, a self promoter, and canny marketer who has built a following based on marketing slogans that have no substance, but seemingly resonate with a large portion of people's basest instincts. Please tell me how he will build a wall across the southern border AND MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR IT? Just as small example of taking a crazy simplistic idea, that appeals to zealots, and doubling down on it, sending into the twilight zone. Would you really feel good about the prospect of a president trump conducting foreign diplomacy? There are so many things wrong with this man as a human, much less as the prospective leader of the free world, that I cannot take this phenomenon seriously.

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You are ahead of yourself with the wall. How is going to sell the wall to the Senate? The Democrats know that immigration reform will never go past the wall. There will be no second step. Therefore, not approving the wall will be their leverage for a broader immigration bill. The problem that you have with Trump is you are educated.

I think he plans upon placing high tariffs on US companies manufacturing their products in Mexico entering back into the US. Also, he mentioned sales tax on US companies that ship their goods directly from Mexico to foreign countries. So, he wants to make it more expensive to produce there rather than in the US. The threat of losing manufacturing jobs will be a greater loss to Mexico than paying for a wall. He is also talking about doing something like that to China. What the hell you think he would do, if these counties nationalized US companies manufacturing plants in their countries, if he pulls the stunts he is talking about?

Guest
01-19-2016, 06:46 AM
Let's see.......a lawyer or a successful businessman.

Which one would I chose to fix our debt crisis? A lawyer wants to argue law, find cracks in laws, change the laws to protect the guilty.

A successful businessman that finances his own campaign and is not in debt/owe anyone or any foreign country (as is the case with Hilary). A businessman that knows about commerce and assets.

Hillary is promising free stuff that will enslave America in debt. No means of paying for the free stuff.
Trump is promising to free America FROM slavery and make us respected in the world again, as well as powerful and financially stable.

IMO, not a very difficult choice. But, on the other hand liberals only think of themselves and the present, not America's future. Liberals are very selfish.

Guest
01-19-2016, 07:40 AM
Your choice, but take this into consideration:

Guest
01-19-2016, 10:19 AM
I honestly cannot understand how otherwise intelligent, rational people can support a Trump candidacy. He is a totally empty suit, a self promoter, and canny marketer who has built a following based on marketing slogans that have no substance, but seemingly resonate with a large portion of people's basest instincts. Please tell me how he will build a wall across the southern border AND MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR IT? Just as small example of taking a crazy simplistic idea, that appeals to zealots, and doubling down on it, sending into the twilight zone. Would you really feel good about the prospect of a president trump conducting foreign diplomacy? There are so many things wrong with this man as a human, much less as the prospective leader of the free world, that I cannot take this phenomenon seriously.

Personal Best Regards:

You can easily replace the name Trump with Obama and the message would fit.....and he fooled enough minions to win!!!!

Guest
01-19-2016, 10:22 AM
Your choice, but take this into consideration:

picture from 20 years ago or very professionally photoshopped........looks nothing like the current "matron-looking" persona.

Guest
01-19-2016, 11:46 AM
picture from 20 years ago or very professionally photoshopped........looks nothing like the current "matron-looking" persona.

And that is what you took away from that ??????

Guest
01-19-2016, 01:54 PM
Let's see.......a lawyer or a successful businessman.

Which one would I chose to fix our debt crisis? A lawyer wants to argue law, find cracks in laws, change the laws to protect the guilty.

A successful businessman that finances his own campaign and is not in debt/owe anyone or any foreign country (as is the case with Hilary). A businessman that knows about commerce and assets.

Hillary is promising free stuff that will enslave America in debt. No means of paying for the free stuff.
Trump is promising to free America FROM slavery and make us respected in the world again, as well as powerful and financially stable.

IMO, not a very difficult choice. But, on the other hand liberals only think of themselves and the present, not America's future. Liberals are very selfish.

This businessman will probably have to deal with 400+ lawyers, that are in Congress. He is use to getting his own way. It won't be that way dealing with Congress. His name might sell in the business world, but it won't mean a damn in DC.

He is out there making promises that he can't meet. He is just saying what people want to hear. He is nothing but noise. His childish faces , and arm waving will be look at as what they are a clown's act.

Why don't you backup this "free stuff" comment with actual facts. What has been given away in the last 7+ years other than items that were directly related to the great recession? Free stuff are just so many empty words.

Guest
01-19-2016, 02:12 PM
This businessman will probably have to deal with 400+ lawyers, that are in Congress. He is use to getting his own way. It won't be that way dealing with Congress. His name might sell in the business world, but it won't mean a damn in DC.

He is out there making promises that he can't meet. He is just saying what people want to hear. He is nothing but noise. His childish faces , and arm waving will be look at as what they are a clown's act.

Why don't you backup this "free stuff" comment with actual facts. What has been given away in the last 7+ years other than items that were directly related to the great recession? Free stuff are just so many empty words.

Your entitled to your opinion. You have nothing to back up your theory though, so that makes it nothing much more than a wish.

"Free stuff?" "Promises of free stuff" is what I believe the quote should be if you are asking. Like all the other liberals/socialist candidates, free stuff would include their Free Health Care, free college, free contraception, gov subsidized abortion, etc., etc. That is the liberal bribe, like Obama's "free stash."

Guest
01-19-2016, 03:13 PM
I honestly cannot understand how otherwise intelligent, rational people can support a Trump candidacy. He is a totally empty suit, a self promoter, and canny marketer who has built a following based on marketing slogans that have no substance, but seemingly resonate with a large portion of people's basest instincts. Please tell me how he will build a wall across the southern border AND MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR IT? Just as small example of taking a crazy simplistic idea, that appeals to zealots, and doubling down on it, sending into the twilight zone. Would you really feel good about the prospect of a president trump conducting foreign diplomacy? There are so many things wrong with this man as a human, much less as the prospective leader of the free world, that I cannot take this phenomenon seriously.

Personal Best Regards:

Dear Guests: In an interest not to confuse readers, nor to take credit or blame for this post readers should know this post was not written by me.

I understand that imitation is a form of flattery and I understand I have no copyrights, but since TOTV sees fit to identify all posters as "guests", I wish the poster would refrain from using my "Personal Best Regards closing and find his/her own personal signature. It is after all the ethical and right thing to do.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
01-19-2016, 03:39 PM
Dear Guests: In an interest not to confuse readers, nor to take credit or blame for this post readers should know this post was not written by me.

I understand that imitation is a form of flattery and I understand I have no copyrights, but since TOTV sees fit to identify all posters as "guests", I wish the poster would refrain from using my "Personal Best Regards closing and find his/her own personal signature. It is after all the ethical and right thing to do.

Personal Best Regards:

I knew immediately that it wasn't authored by you. His understanding of English was suspect at the onset. It was obvious that he hadn't taken full advantage of his FREE public education. But, a troll is a troll. :Screen_of_Death:

Guest
01-19-2016, 05:02 PM
This businessman will probably have to deal with 400+ lawyers, that are in Congress. He is use to getting his own way. It won't be that way dealing with Congress. His name might sell in the business world, but it won't mean a damn in DC.

He is out there making promises that he can't meet. He is just saying what people want to hear. He is nothing but noise. His childish faces , and arm waving will be look at as what they are a clown's act.

Why don't you backup this "free stuff" comment with actual facts. What has been given away in the last 7+ years other than items that were directly related to the great recession? Free stuff are just so many empty words.

Why is it the verbiage used to disparage is always descriptive of Obama?
That does not make sense except for one way street blindness!

Guest
01-19-2016, 06:12 PM
Dear Guests: In an interest not to confuse readers, nor to take credit or blame for this post readers should know this post was not written by me.

I understand that imitation is a form of flattery and I understand I have no copyrights, but since TOTV sees fit to identify all posters as "guests", I wish the poster would refrain from using my "Personal Best Regards closing and find his/her own personal signature. It is after all the ethical and right thing to do.

Personal Best Regards:

Dear guests: in an intersect not to confuse readers, nor to take credit, or blame, for this post, readers should know this post was not written by me.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
01-19-2016, 06:17 PM
Dear guests: in an intersect not to confuse readers, nor to take credit, or blame, for this post, readers should know this post was not written by me.

Personal Best Regards:

The fake is pretty obvious. You are the fake, and an immature one at that.

Guest
01-19-2016, 07:35 PM
The fake is pretty obvious. You are the fake, and an immature one at that.

So, Personal Best Regards, is an identifier, a signiture? I thought it was a relatively common expression such as, yours truly, or sincerely. I was not aware it was the proprietary sign-off of one particular individual who apparently believes, as seemingly do others on this board, that it adds the weight of authenticity or even gravitas to the individuals comments. I apologize to everyone for presuming to usurp such an iconic and powerful phrase.

Best Individual Regards:

Guest
01-19-2016, 10:59 PM
So, Personal Best Regards, is an identifier, a signiture? I thought it was a relatively common expression such as, yours truly, or sincerely. I was not aware it was the proprietary sign-off of one particular individual who apparently believes, as seemingly do others on this board, that it adds the weight of authenticity or even gravitas to the individuals comments. I apologize to everyone for presuming to usurp such an iconic and powerful phrase.

Best Individual Regards:

How very Clinton-esque of you.

Guest
01-20-2016, 05:50 AM
So, Personal Best Regards, is an identifier, a signiture? I thought it was a relatively common expression such as, yours truly, or sincerely. I was not aware it was the proprietary sign-off of one particular individual who apparently believes, as seemingly do others on this board, that it adds the weight of authenticity or even gravitas to the individuals comments. I apologize to everyone for presuming to usurp such an iconic and powerful phrase.

Best Individual Regards:

If you are that childish and stupid, you are on the wrong website. Go play on the Barbie site, where you will be welcome......or would you?

Guest
01-20-2016, 07:04 AM
So, Personal Best Regards, is an identifier, a signiture? I thought it was a relatively common expression such as, yours truly, or sincerely. I was not aware it was the proprietary sign-off of one particular individual who apparently believes, as seemingly do others on this board, that it adds the weight of authenticity or even gravitas to the individuals comments. I apologize to everyone for presuming to usurp such an iconic and powerful phrase.

Best Individual Regards:

Wait! I am a Reactionary Yapster :cus: who tries to get long posts which mean zilch as long as they sound pious but still care nothing about the morals of Palin's family.

All My Regards:

Guest
01-20-2016, 07:17 AM
Wait! I am a Reactionary Yapster :cus: who tries to get long posts which mean zilch as long as they sound pious but still care nothing about the morals of Palin's family.

All My Regards:

Who cares? Palin is not running for office. Get over it. Get a life.

Guest
01-20-2016, 07:44 AM
Dear Guests: In an interest not to confuse readers, nor to take credit or blame for this post readers should know this post was not written by me.

I understand that imitation is a form of flattery and I understand I have no copyrights, but since TOTV sees fit to identify all posters as "guests", I wish the poster would refrain from using my "Personal Best Regards closing and find his/her own personal signature. It is after all the ethical and right thing to do.

Personal Best Regards:

Boy, what an ego trip. Get over yourself. You're right, you have no copyright on the phrase, and why you think everyone is dying to know that you are the actual poster of certain posts, is beyond me. You must think you're really hot stuff. If you only knew.

Best Personal Regards:

Guest
01-20-2016, 07:45 AM
Wait! I am a Reactionary Yapster :cus: who tries to get long posts which mean zilch as long as they sound pious but still care nothing about the morals of Palin's family.

All My Regards:

Nailed it!

Guest
01-20-2016, 08:10 AM
Nailed it!

Thank you. Thank you very much. Elvis has left the building!

Guest
01-20-2016, 08:30 AM
If you are that childish and stupid, you are on the wrong website. Go play on the Barbie site, where you will be welcome......or would you?

I almost forgot how much fun and easy this is! Thanks for the entertainment.

Guest
01-20-2016, 09:13 AM
very much the spoiled, obnoxious behaving child who needs to be the center of attention.........

Guest
01-20-2016, 09:32 AM
Boy, what an ego trip. Get over yourself. You're right, you have no copyright on the phrase, and why you think everyone is dying to know that you are the actual poster of certain posts, is beyond me. You must think you're really hot stuff. If you only knew.

Best Personal Regards:

Your are the one with an ego problem, child. Otherwise, you would contribute instead of mimic adults. like the child your are.

Guest
01-20-2016, 09:37 AM
Your are the one with an ego problem, child. Otherwise, you would contribute instead of mimic adults. like the child your are.

Let your caretaker change your Depends and you won't be so cranky. :cus:

Guest
01-20-2016, 10:08 AM
Let your caretaker change your Depends and you won't be so cranky. :cus:

You validated the point of that post. :clap2:

Guest
01-20-2016, 11:35 AM
Your are the one with an ego problem, child. Otherwise, you would contribute instead of mimic adults. like the child your are.

I was the real poster. Speaking of children, sticks and stones will break my bones....

Best personal regards:

Guest
01-20-2016, 12:40 PM
Why is it the verbiage used to disparage is always descriptive of Obama?
That does not make sense except for one way street blindness!

My comments were directed at Trump not Obama. I don't think that Trump, and Obama are traveling on the same one way street. Do you?

Guest
01-20-2016, 01:07 PM
This businessman will probably have to deal with 400+ lawyers, that are in Congress. He is use to getting his own way. It won't be that way dealing with Congress. His name might sell in the business world, but it won't mean a damn in DC.

He is out there making promises that he can't meet. He is just saying what people want to hear. He is nothing but noise. His childish faces , and arm waving will be look at as what they are a clown's act.

Why don't you backup this "free stuff" comment with actual facts. What has been given away in the last 7+ years other than items that were directly related to the great recession? Free stuff are just so many empty words.

In an effort to clarify an earlier post of mine. The above negative attributes highlighted all apply to Obama. So why are the same attributes treated as negative when applying to candidates other than Obama? We know the answer....it is more of a rhetorical question.

Guest
01-20-2016, 04:20 PM
In an effort to clarify an earlier post of mine. The above negative attributes highlighted all apply to Obama. So why are the same attributes treated as negative when applying to candidates other than Obama? We know the answer....it is more of a rhetorical question.

:thumbup:

Guest
01-20-2016, 05:02 PM
I have NOT seen President Obama making goofy faces while others are talking nor have I seen President Obama waving his arms around mocking a disabled person.

We HAVE all seen Donald Trump doing those things.

We HAVE all heard Trump demeaning Mexicans and Muslims.

Trump IS NOT Presidential material.

Guest
01-20-2016, 07:51 PM
I have NOT seen President Obama making goofy faces while others are talking nor have I seen President Obama waving his arms around mocking a disabled person.

We HAVE all seen Donald Trump doing those things.

We HAVE all heard Trump demeaning Mexicans and Muslims.

Trump IS NOT Presidential material.

Like it or not Obama Obama has set the bar so low.

It is obvious you have an Obama self induced blind spot. Which is certainly understandable!

Guest
01-20-2016, 07:54 PM
In an effort to clarify an earlier post of mine. The above negative attributes highlighted all apply to Obama. So why are the same attributes treated as negative when applying to candidates other than Obama? We know the answer....it is more of a rhetorical question.

Okay, we are on the same track. Obama is use to getting his own way. I agree with you there. Obama thinks he is the smartest man in the room, and he can do the job of everyone in the room better than they are doing their job.

He is making promises he can't keep. Obama promised "hope and change". Trump is promising to build a wall on the Mexican border, and Mexico will pay for it. That is night and day. I don't think that Obama made any promises of kicking the daylights out of our opponents in the Iraq, and Afgan wars. Trump is going to wipe ISIS off the face of the earth. Obama didn't make promises to get out of the great recession by placing tariffs, and sales tax on foreign countries that our corporate moved their production too.

I don't think anyone in England called Obama a fool before he was elected. They didn't have a discussion on the floor to keep Obama out of the country.

I don't ever remember seeing Obama making any faces or waving his arms all the time, when he speaks.

Other than their self confidence in their own brain power, the two are not alike.

Guest
01-20-2016, 07:59 PM
One more thing, if Trump gets elected, then they are alike. Both were/are president of the US. Different paths. Same destination.

Guest
01-21-2016, 07:27 AM
Okay, we are on the same track. Obama is use to getting his own way. I agree with you there. Obama thinks he is the smartest man in the room, and he can do the job of everyone in the room better than they are doing their job.

He is making promises he can't keep. Obama promised "hope and change". Trump is promising to build a wall on the Mexican border, and Mexico will pay for it. That is night and day. I don't think that Obama made any promises of kicking the daylights out of our opponents in the Iraq, and Afgan wars. Trump is going to wipe ISIS off the face of the earth. Obama didn't make promises to get out of the great recession by placing tariffs, and sales tax on foreign countries that our corporate moved their production too.

I don't think anyone in England called Obama a fool before he was elected. They didn't have a discussion on the floor to keep Obama out of the country.

I don't ever remember seeing Obama making any faces or waving his arms all the time, when he speaks.

Other than their self confidence in their own brain power, the two are not alike.

I agree with you, "the two are not alike." I believe that Trump loves this country and I believe that Obama hates it. My opinion.
You can say that Trump's idea of building a wall for our safety is stupid, but it has been done in other countries, why not here? You don't think it can be done, and I think that it would be easier than landing a spaceship on the moon. Or, do you think that was a hoax?
You don't like the faces Trump makes, and I don't like Obama calling Republicans "the enemy." I don't like Hilary telling Americans that Republicans hate them.
Trump is not known to hate the military. The Clintons are known to have said some very derogatory comments regarding the military.

I am surprised that liberals are against Trump. After all, they insist that he was a Democrat before he was a Republican. They talk about him being a friend of the Clintons. He is probably more of a Democrat than the socialists that are running under the Democrat banner. They should welcome him.

Guest
01-21-2016, 07:37 AM
I agree with you, "the two are not alike." I believe that Trump loves this country and I believe that Obama hates it. My opinion.
You can say that Trump's idea of building a wall for our safety is stupid, but it has been done in other countries, why not here? You don't think it can be done, and I think that it would be easier than landing a spaceship on the moon. Or, do you think that was a hoax?
You don't like the faces Trump makes, and I don't like Obama calling Republicans "the enemy." I don't like Hilary telling Americans that Republicans hate them.
Trump is not known to hate the military. The Clintons are known to have said some very derogatory comments regarding the military.

I am surprised that liberals are against Trump. After all, they insist that he was a Democrat before he was a Republican. They talk about him being a friend of the Clintons. He is probably more of a Democrat than the socialists that are running under the Democrat banner. They should welcome him.

Brainwashed!
There is an R next to his name....nuff said!

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01-21-2016, 05:43 PM
I agree with you, "the two are not alike." I believe that Trump loves this country and I believe that Obama hates it. My opinion.
You can say that Trump's idea of building a wall for our safety is stupid, but it has been done in other countries, why not here? You don't think it can be done, and I think that it would be easier than landing a spaceship on the moon. Or, do you think that was a hoax?
You don't like the faces Trump makes, and I don't like Obama calling Republicans "the enemy." I don't like Hilary telling Americans that Republicans hate them.
Trump is not known to hate the military. The Clintons are known to have said some very derogatory comments regarding the military.

I am surprised that liberals are against Trump. After all, they insist that he was a Democrat before he was a Republican. They talk about him being a friend of the Clintons. He is probably more of a Democrat than the socialists that are running under the Democrat banner. They should welcome him.

"Obama hates the country". Can you really be so blinded by partisanship that you believe that? That position alone negates anything you might offer of substance. Good grief!!

Obama calling Republicans "the enemy"? Could that possibly be because they vowed upon his inauguration that they would do "everything within their power" to see that he failed. That in and of itself is a treasonous position for elected officials to take - play gotcha with the president to the detriment of the country and the people in it.! Little wonder that almost 80% of people in the country disapprove of congress.

Democrats and many many republicans are against Trump, not simply because of his positions, which are confused at best, but because they feel he is unqualified for the Presidency by character, by ethics, by temperament, and by any measure of personal slime factor.

Guest
01-21-2016, 07:31 PM
"Obama hates the country". Can you really be so blinded by partisanship that you believe that? That position alone negates anything you might offer of substance. Good grief!!

Obama calling Republicans "the enemy"? Could that possibly be because they vowed upon his inauguration that they would do "everything within their power" to see that he failed. That in and of itself is a treasonous position for elected officials to take - play gotcha with the president to the detriment of the country and the people in it.! Little wonder that almost 80% of people in the country disapprove of congress.

Democrats and many many republicans are against Trump, not simply because of his positions, which are confused at best, but because they feel he is unqualified for the Presidency by character, by ethics, by temperament, and by any measure of personal slime factor.

The highlight above makes no sense since these same folks voted for a candidate who more fits the description.....unqualified....character (racist)......ethics (proven to be a joke).....temperment......personal slime (demonstrated time and time again)...OBAMA....twice!!!

Guest
01-21-2016, 07:58 PM
"Obama hates the country". Can you really be so blinded by partisanship that you believe that? That position alone negates anything you might offer of substance. Good grief!!

Obama calling Republicans "the enemy"? Could that possibly be because they vowed upon his inauguration that they would do "everything within their power" to see that he failed. That in and of itself is a treasonous position for elected officials to take - play gotcha with the president to the detriment of the country and the people in it.! Little wonder that almost 80% of people in the country disapprove of congress.

Democrats and many many republicans are against Trump, not simply because of his positions, which are confused at best, but because they feel he is unqualified for the Presidency by character, by ethics, by temperament, and by any measure of personal slime factor.

Liberals like to exaggerate to the extreme. McConnell said that he would do everything he could to make Obama a one term president. Hardly worst than anything that Reid or Pelosi has said in the past. Treasonous? Wow, are you silly.

Unqualified for the presidency by character, by ethics, by temperament? So, Obama is OK in that regard? A petulant child is a pretty accurate description of Obama. Shoot for that matter, what about Slick Willy CLinton? He fits that description too.

Your comment was a waste of good debate effort. You have provided no decent material for discussion. For that matter, neither did I by replying to you.

Guest
01-21-2016, 07:58 PM
The highlight above makes no sense since these same folks voted for a candidate who more fits the description.....unqualified....character (racist)......ethics (proven to be a joke).....temperment......personal slime (demonstrated time and time again)...OBAMA....twice!!!

:agree: ...totally.

Guest
01-25-2016, 09:14 AM
I've always voted Republican but not this year... What a sad sad choice of Republican candidates. God help this country and while he is at it, help Congress get "something" done!




"Obama hates the country". Can you really be so blinded by partisanship that you believe that? That position alone negates anything you might offer of substance. Good grief!!

Obama calling Republicans "the enemy"? Could that possibly be because they vowed upon his inauguration that they would do "everything within their power" to see that he failed. That in and of itself is a treasonous position for elected officials to take - play gotcha with the president to the detriment of the country and the people in it.! Little wonder that almost 80% of people in the country disapprove of congress.

Democrats and many many republicans are against Trump, not simply because of his positions, which are confused at best, but because they feel he is unqualified for the Presidency by character, by ethics, by temperament, and by any measure of personal slime factor.

Guest
01-25-2016, 09:22 AM
I've always voted Republican but not this year... What a sad sad choice of Republican candidates. God help this country and while he is at it, help Congress get "something" done!

Sure, and I have been a Democrat for 40 years (ha,ha,ha) and now I just can't bring myself to vote for a criminal and a commie. I think that I will register as a Republican this time and vote for our country, ha,ha, ha.

A liberal that believes in a deity, other than Obama or were you praying to him? Either way, that's a new one.

Guest
01-25-2016, 09:26 AM
I've always voted Republican but not this year... What a sad sad choice of Republican candidates. God help this country and while he is at it, help Congress get "something" done!

This sounds way to much like a BS or bait statement.
The insinuation is that an unethical, dishonest, feloneous, liar is preferred.

Sorry sounds like the usual Clinton no matter what crowd.

Nice try.

Guest
01-25-2016, 09:38 AM
This sounds way to much like a BS or bait statement.
The insinuation is that an unethical, dishonest, feloneous, liar is preferred.

Sorry sounds like the usual Clinton no matter what crowd.

Nice try.

:agree: