Caroline Kennedy in TV's??!!!!

[Guest]

This was listed on the Obama website....why is this not in the newspaper? This is HUGE! You have to RSVP on the website....


www.barackobama.com

Caroline Kennedy Hosts Early Vote Gathering for Change


Wednesday, October 29 3:45 PM Savannah Center (The Villages, FL)
Listen to Caroline Kennedy speak at the Savannah Center! Doors open at 3:45 pm.

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Thanks for the head up Cassie!

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It is completely baffling to me that this didn't get more press. Caroline Kennedy is going to be speaking at The Savannah Center, this Wed. and NOTHING in the newspapers. I called Savannah Center and they say THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY INFORMATION! How one sided can this get!

When that idiot Sarah Palin was here you'd have thought it was the "second coming". :yuck:

OK, I'm originally from an urban area and you can call me an "Elitist" if you want to, but this is just wrong! You can talk about Chicago until hell freezes over, but at least we were informed when opposing candidates or events were occurring.

:cus:

[Guest]

I read this in the Ocala paper, The Star Banner. She's supposed to be speaking at 4:30pm on Wednesday at Savannah center.

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This is so typical of The Villages. They'll do anything they can to smother anything except the Republicans.

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You know, I love The Villages with all my heart and soul, but this is just creee-pay! It's really very disturbing politically. :ohdear:

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I copied this off her web site. It is truely un-american to surpress info concerning the other major party and roll out the red carpet for your personal choice. What are they afraid of ??? How can any respectable newspaper print large pictures of Sara Palen on the front page for days and not even put a small announcement about Caroline Kennedy speaking here in the Villages. I guess I answered my own question.

THE VILLAGES — Caroline Kennedy, daughter of President John F. Kennedy, will be here Wednesday afternoon to campaign for Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential bid, according to Democratic Party officials.

Kennedy is scheduled to appear at the Savannah Center in The Villages, 545 Buena Vista Boulevard, at 4:45 p.m. Wednesday.

She was one of the first major Democrats to endorse Obama’s presidential bid earlier this year and will be the Party’s second national figure to appear in the area this week.

Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic vice presidential candidate, will appear Tuesday at 11 a.m. at the Dancing Horses Farm, 8711 W. SR 40, in Marion County.

Traditionally, Marion County and The Villages are Republican strongholds but polls indicate that Obama has a chance to win Florida. The race for the state’s 27 electoral votes is a toss-up, according to most polls.:yuck:

[Guest]

For those who doubted why the Daily Sun was rated as a poor paper, this should eliminate all doubts.

Now if Caroline Kennedy was one of the 3 comedians on Fox and Friends she would get the same type of press the Sun gave Steve Doocy prior to his book signing in TV on October 17.

It's actually quite surprising Ms. Kennedy is even allowed to use a Villages facility. Whoever sponsored it probably erroneously told the powers of TV Ollie North was showing up.

http://www.thevillagesdailysun.com/articles/2008/10/16/news/news02.txt

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then I have two questions.

One, what do we call the do nothing, tenured, whore mongering, cheating, lying, all for themselves, screw we the people incumbents in Washington?
And what do we call the permissive, pacifist, don't offend anybody, all is OK silent majority that continues to re elect them?

These are not partisan questions as both parties get equal billing for all the above +++++++.

They are rhetorical questions, that require no answer....just meant to be thought provocative when it comes to the 545 that have many, many, MANY more REAL faults. That just don't seem to matter to many. And as critical as some are of a selected few, I don't know how they pass up the ones who really need to be evaluated by we the people.

BTK

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http://www.gainesville.com/article/20081026/NEWS/810260944

On another note, Sarah Palin has many admirable qualities. I expect she is the rising star in the Republican party and we will be seeing quite a bit more of her here in TV especially if she is NOT elected V.P.

She will probably be a 2012 contender.

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That is troubling. Caroline Kennedy coming to The Villages is NEWS. I thought the Daily Sun was a NEWS-paper. Gawd, I'm as Republican as one can get but this is awful. If my wife didn't enjoy looking at new home pictures I'd cancel our subscription. I would think that all subscribers will be VERY upset by such NEWS censorship. Need a sequel to Leisureville.

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Well I feel bad that everyone is mad at TV's....that was not my intent.

I was upset that this was not printed in the paper...BUT more importantly I wanted all of you to know. I found it by mistake!

Actually I put a call into the local Democratic Committee to find out why they have not publicized this. They have a booth up at Market night for an entire month or so....and it should have been a topic they brought up to visitors...

anyway....we should expect it not to be in the paper for political reasons and that is their right....but it should have been listed as an event at Savannah Center...at the very least. Just my opinion....

Did not mean to upset anyone...sorry!

[Guest]

Anyone interested in going to Caroline Kennedy can RSVP on Obama website on the "Events" page. She'll be at Savannah Ctr. @3:45-5:45 Wed. 10/29 Host,Jocelyn Slowey 352 246-2921. And it's "typical" of the Daily Sun not to publicize anything that's not in their own interest!!

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Everyone should send a email to the editor re; this (I just did) to let them know how that we know how biased they are.

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It's things like this that are a blight on the reputation of the total Villages package. Wonder if WVGL will cover any of it. Boy, Neil Diamond would really be upset!

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I agree with so many of these comments. I cannot believe someone of her stature is coming to The Villages and we hear nothing. On a different, but similar subject lately I have been seeing more and more Obama/Biden signs on golf carts and at homes. Thank Goodness! It is pleasing to know there are more than a few of us.

[Guest]

if the local Dems org isn't publicizing it, where did y'all say the problem was?

BTK

[Guest]

if the local Dems org isn't publicizing it, where did y'all say the problem was?

BTK

The various parties seem to be pushing their pieces where they will do the most good (get the most votes for their candidates).

I usually look at these as chess matches between the various handlers of the major candidates. I doubt if the people who are more in the spectator role in this match-- like local political organizers-- get a whole lot of notice as to who is coming and when.

[Guest]

Thanks for the info...I wish I was in town, I would love to see her. Since I am now an offical Villager I was going to subscribe to the local paper, but now I have decided I WILL NOT!

[Guest]

So... what did the Demo Committee say was the reason they had not publicized the info? And why doesn't the Savannah Center know that she is going to be there? There has to be some kind of communication glitch.Maybe this is just a big rumor. That would make me feel a lot better than to realize Caroline Kennedy was coming to our community and The Daily Sun intentionally decided to not write about it.

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Maybe this is just a big rumor. That would make me feel a lot better than to realize Caroline Kennedy was coming to our community and The Daily Sun intentionally decided to not write about it.

This is not a rumor. She will be there. I did the R.S.V.P on the Obama site and received my confirmation. Caroline Kennedy has stayed out of politics and for her to get involved, stating she see's the hope that her father inspired, speaks volumes.

:eclipsee_gold_cup:

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Helene, I see that you will be living in the Bonita Village... congrats, it's a lovely area! We just toured the area recently and thought it was great.

I also see there is a lot of indignation that the developer won't promote the opposition party in The Daily Sun. Mr. Peachie and I always start and stop the subscription of The Daily Sun when we are in town because we enjoy much of the information we derive from it's contents. We DO NOT, however, consider this a "newspaper" from which to gather hard news or event information of the Democratic Party. And most of the informed people in TV have a newspaper delivered in addition to The Daily Sun or read online additions of other news sources. (There is much bias in any newspaper, hard to find unbiased reporting these days).

So don't be afraid to enjoy The Daily Sun when in TV but realize as most of The Villagers do, it is an advertising piece for the developer with interesting articles and classified ads and not meant to promote political foes. We personally, would never read one news source for information, balance is always needed.

Enjoy your new home! :coolsmiley:

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I agree with so many of these comments. I cannot believe someone of her stature is coming to The Villages and we hear nothing. On a different, but similar subject lately I have been seeing more and more Obama/Biden signs on golf carts and at homes. Thank Goodness! It is pleasing to know there are more than a few of us.

Her claim to fame is her father was once president?:shrug::faint::yuck::shrug:

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Oshunluva - I assume you forget her father and uncle were assassinated for their political beliefs and she grew up without a father except for Ted who stepped in as a surrogate. Oh, I forgot, they were not Republicans. As your sign off used to say - eradicate Democrats.

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Helene, I see that you will be living in the Bonita Village... congrats, it's a lovely area! We just toured the area recently and thought it was great.

I also see there is a lot of indignation that the developer won't promote the opposition party in The Daily Sun. Mr. Peachie and I always start and stop the subscription of The Daily Sun when we are in town because we enjoy much of the information we derive from it's contents. We DO NOT, however, consider this a "newspaper" from which to gather hard news or event information of the Democratic Party. And most of the informed people in TV have a newspaper delivered in addition to The Daily Sun or read online additions of other news sources. (There is much bias in any newspaper, hard to find unbiased reporting these days).

So don't be afraid to enjoy The Daily Sun when in TV but realize as most of The Villagers do, it is an advertising piece for the developer with interesting articles and classified ads and not meant to promote political foes. We personally, would never read one news source for information, balance is always needed.

Enjoy your new home! :coolsmiley:

Thanks Peachie.....we are not there full time yet, but will be coming up at least once or twice a month. It seems like a real nice area and the neighbors that we have met are very nice. Still not sure about the Daily Sun though...;)

[Guest]

Anyone interested in going to Caroline Kennedy can RSVP on Obama website on the "Events" page. She'll be at Savannah Ctr. @3:45-5:45 Wed. 10/29 Host,Jocelyn Slowey 352 246-2921. And it's "typical" of the Daily Sun not to publicize anything that's not in their own interest!!


Since this information is not publicized in the local newspaper, it would be a nice gesture to at least put it on a sticky for TOTV readers to see.

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To all of you who bash the local paper for being conservative or whatever else you may say...do you criticize the New York Times, The New York Daily News, The New York Post, The Chicago Tribune for any "bent" or leaning they have ???????

This paper of course is not in their league in so many ways, but even more reason to understand. Read and enjoy the Daily Sun for what it is worth...if you rely on it for all of your hard news then you are uninformed !! Why bash the paper !!!

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And another thought, if everyone dislikes the fact so much that TV is a Republican stronghold, why not leave and live somewhere else so as to make room for more conservatives, only stands to reason.I'm a conservative Republican. However, if I knew I was moving to a community where the "news"paper is whitewashed and censored I would have considered other golf communities in the sunbelt. I don't care what your political stance is.... when you grow up in America you read about news being censored in communist and other countries, not here. I still am hoping there is a reasonable explanation why this was not in The Daily Sun.

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who cares.....???????

I for one have had a belly full of the kennedy's a long time ago...........

[Guest]

To all of you who bash the local paper for being conservative or whatever else you may say...do you criticize the New York Times, The New York Daily News, The New York Post, The Chicago Tribune for any "bent" or leaning they have ???????

This paper of course is not in their league in so many ways, but even more reason to understand. Read and enjoy the Daily Sun for what it is worth...if you rely on it for all of your hard news then you are uninformed !! Why bash the paper !!!


:agree::agree:

I love the paper! BUT....I read it knowing it is not going to give all of the information I am looking for....but that is why we have other papers...or the web....or the news....

When the front page headlines are about an angel in the neighborhood....or golf cart rally's....you get my drift.....

However....I thought it would have been of some significance to TV's to post this in the paper....I know they are a primarily republican based paper....but Caroline Kennedy is famous...regardless of how she got that way....she is famous...and it is going to be interesting to listen to her....

The Daily Sun....good and fun to read....keeps people in the bubble if that is where they want to be.....BUT this should be considered an EVENT in TV's at the Savannah Center...so therefore could have been printed....

IMHO....

Now we all know about it....and those that want to go can do so....and those that don't....we will surely let you know what you missed! ;)

[Guest]

Helene, I see that you will be living in the Bonita Village... congrats, it's a lovely area! We just toured the area recently and thought it was great.

I also see there is a lot of indignation that the developer won't promote the opposition party in The Daily Sun. Mr. Peachie and I always start and stop the subscription of The Daily Sun when we are in town because we enjoy much of the information we derive from it's contents. We DO NOT, however, consider this a "newspaper" from which to gather hard news or event information of the Democratic Party. And most of the informed people in TV have a newspaper delivered in addition to The Daily Sun or read online additions of other news sources. (There is much bias in any newspaper, hard to find unbiased reporting these days).

So don't be afraid to enjoy The Daily Sun when in TV but realize as most of The Villagers do, it is an advertising piece for the developer with interesting articles and classified ads and not meant to promote political foes. We personally, would never read one news source for information, balance is always needed.

Enjoy your new home! :coolsmiley:Baloney... If Caroline Kennedy is coming to this community and The Daily Sun decides to not cover the story that is censorship. I'm starting to understand how and why the POA got started.

[Guest]

To all of you who bash the local paper for being conservative or whatever else you may say...do you criticize the New York Times, The New York Daily News, The New York Post, The Chicago Tribune for any "bent" or leaning they have ???????

This paper of course is not in their league in so many ways, but even more reason to understand. Read and enjoy the Daily Sun for what it is worth...if you rely on it for all of your hard news then you are uninformed !! Why bash the paper !!!I don't rely on it for "hard news"... but it's really scary and sad to learn that I can't rely on it to learn what's happening in The Villages.

[Guest]

Baloney... If Caroline Kennedy is coming to this community and The Daily Sun decides to not cover the story that is censorship. I'm starting to understand how and why the POA got started.


Does anyone recall how far in advance the Gov Palin visit was announced in the Daily Sun.....just askiing ? :) Geez

My recollection, very faulty at times,is that it was nationally known before in the Daily Sun !

[Guest]

I'm a conservative Republican. However, if I knew I was moving to a community where the "news"paper is whitewashed and censored I would have considered other golf communities in the sunbelt. I don't care what your political stance is.... when you grow up in America you read about news being censored in communist and other countries, not here. I still am hoping there is a reasonable explanation why this was not in The Daily Sun.


The villages is strictly republican,the paper sells homes, it is privatly owned they can do as they please. We are not happy about it but thats the way it is.when obama is pres.it will not change anything in TV. Just enjoy what we have here.

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My guess is that there will be a story in the Tuesday morning edition.

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Today, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Peachie
Helene, I see that you will be living in the Bonita Village... congrats, it's a lovely area! We just toured the area recently and thought it was great.

I also see there is a lot of indignation that the developer won't promote the opposition party in The Daily Sun. Mr. Peachie and I always start and stop the subscription of The Daily Sun when we are in town because we enjoy much of the information we derive from it's contents. We DO NOT, however, consider this a "newspaper" from which to gather hard news or event information of the Democratic Party. And most of the informed people in TV have a newspaper delivered in addition to The Daily Sun or read online additions of other news sources. (There is much bias in any newspaper, hard to find unbiased reporting these days).

So don't be afraid to enjoy The Daily Sun when in TV but realize as most of The Villagers do, it is an advertising piece for the developer with interesting articles and classified ads and not meant to promote political foes. We personally, would never read one news source for information, balance is always needed.

Enjoy your new home!

Baloney... If Caroline Kennedy is coming to this community and The Daily Sun decides to not cover the story that is censorship. I'm starting to understand how and why the POA got started.
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It's difficult to grasp that you are a conservative Republican, rshoffer, if you have had no difficulty with the constant liberal skewering and controlling of the media regarding the promotion of the Democratic ticket but you are totally, totally outraged that a local, developer owned newspaper who is promoting his party will not give free publicity to the opponents. This response feels so out of kilter with your normally well-developed opinions of situations that it is strange to accept. And I had thought too, that Palin was announced very late in the game and maybe the same would be said for Schlossberg. Rather than fear you are being manipulated by The Daily Sun, why not subscribe to the Ocala or Orlando newpapers? But remember to allow for their slant also. And to everybody who does not yet understand, do read further than The Daily Sun for all of your hard news stories if you want a well rounded version of the same story. :shrug:

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Today, 08:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peachie
Helene, I see that you will be living in the Bonita Village... congrats, it's a lovely area! We just toured the area recently and thought it was great.

I also see there is a lot of indignation that the developer won't promote the opposition party in The Daily Sun. Mr. Peachie and I always start and stop the subscription of The Daily Sun when we are in town because we enjoy much of the information we derive from it's contents. We DO NOT, however, consider this a "newspaper" from which to gather hard news or event information of the Democratic Party. And most of the informed people in TV have a newspaper delivered in addition to The Daily Sun or read online additions of other news sources. (There is much bias in any newspaper, hard to find unbiased reporting these days).

So don't be afraid to enjoy The Daily Sun when in TV but realize as most of The Villagers do, it is an advertising piece for the developer with interesting articles and classified ads and not meant to promote political foes. We personally, would never read one news source for information, balance is always needed.

Enjoy your new home!

Baloney... If Caroline Kennedy is coming to this community and The Daily Sun decides to not cover the story that is censorship. I'm starting to understand how and why the POA got started.
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Reading, Pa., Philadelphia, Pa., Augusta, Ga., Germany., Danville., Pa., The Villages
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It's difficult to grasp that you are a conservative Republican, rshoffer, if you have had no difficulty with the constant liberal skewering and controlling of the media regarding the promotion of the Democratic ticket but you are totally, totally outraged that a local, developer owned newspaper who is promoting his party will not give free publicity to the opponents. This response feels so out of kilter with your normally well-developed opinions of situations that it is strange to accept. And I had thought too, that Palin was announced very late in the game and maybe the same would be said for Schloessmann (?). Rather than fear you are being manipulated by The Daily Sun, why not subscribe to the Ocala or Orlando newpapers? But remember to allow for their slant also. And to everybody who does not yet understand, do read further than The Daily Sun for all of your hard news stories if you want a well rounded version of the same story. :shrug:


AMEN...if anyone does not like the political ilk of the developer or his choice of news stories, CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTION or ACCEPT THE PAPER FOR WHAT IT IS .....but stop the preaching !!!!

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I think it's really sad and unfortunate that a city, village, or whatever we are, of 70,000, soon to be 100,000, does not have a news source that can report the news or even the upcoming events in an unbiased way. I have absolutely no problem with a newspaper leaning right or left, but that should be confined to the editorial or opinion pages. I realize that if we don't like it, we can subscribe to a newspaper from Ocala or Orlando or wherever, but we really don't have another choice of a paper if we want the local news. I love The Villages, but it is too bad that some people from the "friendliest" place can only offer a "love it or leave it" response. Wouldn't it be nice if we respected other people's opinions, even if they differ from ours.

Well, hit 'em straight. I'll see you in the shallow end of the pool.

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Today, 08:41 PM
rshoffer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peachie
Helene, I see that you will be living in the Bonita Village... congrats, it's a lovely area! We just toured the area recently and thought it was great.

I also see there is a lot of indignation that the developer won't promote the opposition party in The Daily Sun. Mr. Peachie and I always start and stop the subscription of The Daily Sun when we are in town because we enjoy much of the information we derive from it's contents. We DO NOT, however, consider this a "newspaper" from which to gather hard news or event information of the Democratic Party. And most of the informed people in TV have a newspaper delivered in addition to The Daily Sun or read online additions of other news sources. (There is much bias in any newspaper, hard to find unbiased reporting these days).

So don't be afraid to enjoy The Daily Sun when in TV but realize as most of The Villagers do, it is an advertising piece for the developer with interesting articles and classified ads and not meant to promote political foes. We personally, would never read one news source for information, balance is always needed.

Enjoy your new home!

Baloney... If Caroline Kennedy is coming to this community and The Daily Sun decides to not cover the story that is censorship. I'm starting to understand how and why the POA got started.
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Reading, Pa., Philadelphia, Pa., Augusta, Ga., Germany., Danville., Pa., The Villages
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It's difficult to grasp that you are a conservative Republican, rshoffer, if you have had no difficulty with the constant liberal skewering and controlling of the media regarding the promotion of the Democratic ticket but you are totally, totally outraged that a local, developer owned newspaper who is promoting his party will not give free publicity to the opponents. This response feels so out of kilter with your normally well-developed opinions of situations that it is strange to accept. And I had thought too, that Palin was announced very late in the game and maybe the same would be said for Schloessmann (?). Rather than fear you are being manipulated by The Daily Sun, why not subscribe to the Ocala or Orlando newpapers? But remember to allow for their slant also. And to everybody who does not yet understand, do read further than The Daily Sun for all of your hard news stories if you want a well rounded version of the same story. :shrug:

I would think that Democrat or Republican, you'd be appalled at censorship. :shrug:

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I don't rely on it for "hard news"... but it's really scary and sad to learn that I can't rely on it to learn what's happening in The Villages.

You're absolutely right. You and I are on different teams here, but this is one thing we can completely agree on. It was especially annoying to me when I called the Savannah Center and they said they didn't know what I was talking about. Whose script were they reading from? Give me a break people. This is still America the last time I looked.!

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We were told that anything negative is kept out of the Villages newspaper no matter what it pertains to. Could it be that they are just trying to keep it a "happy" place and some are making it sound like it is because of TV's owner's political leaning? Now I know that because it is oshunluva asking this that most folks are going to answer this just the way I think they will but that's ok. :laugh:

And, what, pray tell, is negative about Caroline Kennedy coming to TV? The fact that is a speech for Obama? That's ridiculous.

Keeping this a secret is just wrong on so many levels. Censorship, people's right to know and make a free choice, etc.

Something tells me Ms. Kennedy would be a bigger draw than Gov. Palin. Too many of us remember the little girl who played under her daddy's desk in the White House and would love the opportunity to see her in person regardless of the political persuasion. Who knows? If it was advertised, they might have to use LSL and there might truly be 60,000 people there rather a large group counted several times to equal 60K.

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AMEN...if anyone does not like the political ilk of the developer or his choice of news stories, CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTION or ACCEPT THE PAPER FOR WHAT IT IS .....but stop the preaching !!!!Where in the world did you get my opinion about how the liberal media, especially the NY Times, has manipulated the election. I totally agree. I mistakengly thought the Daily Sun reported on events happening in The Villages. Consider this... let's say I was such political activist that I would want to excercise my constitutional right to demonstrate support or the GOP if/when speakers for the other party came here. I'd be in the dark if not for this forum. In fact, if I wasn't working I WOULD show up with my McCain/ Palin banners waving... Living here is a learning experience. Now I've learned. Like you say , "take the Daily Sun for what it is"....

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My guess is that there will be a story in the Tuesday morning edition. Right on Talk Host... there's the story... Front Page Local section of the Sun. I got my shorts all in a bundle for nothing. I prefer a cold Yuengling and some salt and pepper with my crow. And Bucco, rest assured I'm in the conservative camp... guess I'm just a "Maverick"...

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This is exactly the problem, the hysteria about censorship and the controlling developer created by Cassie's premature post was really something to watch from a distant eye. I remember not that long ago when it was proclaimed that the developer would NEVER allow a political candidate or supporter to use any of the Village facilities for a political rally. That was the first thing that came to mind when the piling on began on Mr. Morse's back, but then it has never taken much for people to hate this "evil" man and the beautiful oasis of living he has created. :faint:

I can't figure why my husband and I enjoy TV so much.....

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I feel the job of a (good) newspaper is to report local events. As someone said, political leanings one way or another would be displayed in the editorial columns. What was annoying to many, was the fact that the Palin event was highly advertised and reported in a manner akin to "the coming of Christ", while Biden and Kennedy are little blurbs at best. To take the "love it or leave it" stance is in no way helpful. I hope that in the future, if we voice our concerns to "the management", we will eventually get some changes that will make The Villages a better place to live. If they hear it from enough people, they will get the message. If we go along like sheep, nothing will happen.

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And now it's the way it is reported that is the problem. Geezzzzz.

Rekop, would you do me a favor and do more investigation with the USA distributrion center and find out why they have been banned from TVs? Do they want to hang a mail box, do they want to mail the issues, exactly what is the issue? I saw other people receiving more than one paper and I'm trying to discover the problem with the USA delivery and whether it is truly, "banned in Boston".

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You don't seem to like my post about the poor level of reporting certain events, but you want me to do research for you? Its pretty easy to make a quick phone call.....

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I'll do that, rekop. I'd rather do the "reporting" than the gossiping.

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Rekop, per a conversation today with the USA Today distribution department, paper can be delivered or mailed to your home there, some areas of TV do not have carriers available. Those are the facts.

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Rekop, per a conversation today with the USA Today distribution department, paper can be delivered or mailed to your home there, some areas of TV do not have carriers available. Those are the facts.


MANY people in The Villages get the USA Today and/or the Orlando Sentinel delivered to their homes each and every morning. Everything that happens in your life that you dont like is NOT the fault of the developer !!!!

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Here is The Villlages Daily Sun website link for this story about Caroline Kennedy's October 29, 2008 visit to TV. http://www.thevillagesdailysun.com/articles/2008/10/28/villages/villages01.txt

[Guest]

Yesterday I sent an email to The Daily Sun and Orlando Sentinel suggesting they advertise this event , I wonder how many others did the same and if that was the reason why it was finally in the paper????

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MANY people in The Villages get the USA Today and/or the Orlando Sentinel delivered to their homes each and every morning. Everything that happens in your life that you dont like is NOT the fault of the developer !!!!

.....fault of the developer.
This reminds me of another blog....the POA web site is where the developer really gets blamed for everything!

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Today, 08:01 AM
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Yesterday I sent an email to The Daily Sun and Orlando Sentinel suggesting they advertise this event , I wonder how many others did the same and if that was the reason why it was finally in the paper????
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Perhaps they received an official press release from the Democrats stating the event would take place. Doesn't the Press normally confirm facts and not take information off forums as gospel? (Thank heavens!)

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Yesterday I sent an email to The Daily Sun and Orlando Sentinel suggesting they advertise this event , I wonder how many others did the same and if that was the reason why it was finally in the paper????

It is not the job of newspapers, radio or television to "advertise" any political event. Their job to report news as they have it. That reporting is governed by their editorial policy. It varies from paper to paper.

After reading the posts on this thread, I would guess that some might say, "hey....they didn't cover my sewing circle meeting.......why are they censoring the news."

What is news to one person, is not necessarily news to another. By whose standards do we abide?

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I doubt if there is any way you are going to get 60,000 people in at the Savannah Center. I would guess they would be lucky to get more than 1000 people at that facility??

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WOW!!!.......I'm amazed at the over reaction and shoot from the hip posts regarding Caroline Kennedy's visit. Relax, go to the Savannah Center if that is your choice and enjoy the day. :laugh:


For god's sake LIGHTEN UP................

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chuckster,
:agree:

Good post!:a040:

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Per Peachie -"proclaimed that the developer would NEVER allow a political candidate or supporter to use any of the Village facilities for a political rally. That was the first thing that came to mind when the piling on began on Mr. Morse's back, but then it has never taken much for people to hate this "evil" man and the beautiful oasis of living he has created. "

Let's don't forget he made a pretty penny off the development - he did not develop the "oasis" out of the goodness of his heart. The posters seem to be asking for fair and balanced news reporting rather than the "Fox" edition.

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Let's don't forget he made a pretty penny off the development - he did not develop the "oasis" out of the goodness of his heart
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SO what ? At least as of today, we are still a free enterprise system !

I realize that is it trying to be taken away from us but as of today, that is how it works !

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It's good to see the Daily Sun coverage of the Joe Biden unannounced visit today. Perhaps the paranoia regarding the developer will be a little less intense for a bit even though he didn't develop the beautiful oasis of TV for free as some people obviously think he should have done. :coolsmiley:

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So I am about to get ready to go listen to what Caroline has to say....and I have the most important question about the whole event!

What should I wear! :faint:

Just kidding...just thought I should add a little humor to this thread....didn't mean to start a controversy about the developers and the paper.....do you think I can wear white?? :shrug:


:sigh: I am just kdding again..... Go ahead :throwtomatoes:....I know I am a PITA!!!


Hope to see you there!!!

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I'm up here in NY for now but read the post about no publicity for Caroline Kennedy at Savannah this afternoon.. I think thats terrible but typical of a Republican Regime...
Please....did anyone go to the event..How was it and did many people show up due to the lack of publicity???
I was in TV a few weeks ago at LSL market night; there was an Obama table set up with buttons and bumper stickers. I asked the girl when is he coming to speak in TV and she said "are you kidding..do you really think Mr Morse would allow him to speak here?" Guess not....
Vote Obama...

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I'm up here in NY for now but read the post about no publicity for Caroline Kennedy at Savannah this afternoon.. I think thats terrible but typical of a Republican Regime...
Please....did anyone go to the event..How was it and did many people show up due to the lack of publicity???
I was in TV a few weeks ago at LSL market night; there was an Obama table set up with buttons and bumper stickers. I asked the girl when is he coming to speak in TV and she said "are you kidding..do you really think Mr Morse would allow him to speak here?" Guess not....
Vote Obama...

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PLEASE EXPLAIN IN DETAIL....

What do you think is "terrible but typical of a Republican Regime..." ?

Also in detail please...what has the developer done to stop any Democratic candidate from appearing in The Villages ???

Thank you

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I did not go to the Savannah Center to see Caroline...but I did drive by on my way home from errands in Spanish Springs at about 4:15. I believe she was scheduled to speak at 5 p.m. Both entrances were blocked by sheriff's cars and the parking lots were full. They were directing cars to park on the grass beyond Savannah Center on El Camino Dr. I slowed down and there was a very long line from the side door of the center ,winding around through the parking lot. Looks like even with out any advertising word spread fast in TV . I would bet they turned some folks away.

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I will start a new thread....I am guessing there were a few TOTVer's there....well I was...and think I recognized a few others....but I will let all post there own experiences....and opinions....

If someone doesn't beat me to it....will start a new thread in a bit.....

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Bucco,,I am only quoting """" """" the reply given when I asked when is Obama coming to TV...As for the Republican Regime...I never met so many staunch Republicans like I have down in Florida..as far as I can see it is total Bush territory! Regime? Well there was the grandfather, the father and the son...Sure grandpop never made it to president, but very political nevertheless..

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Bucco,,I am only quoting """" """" the reply given when I asked when is Obama coming to TV...As for the Republican Regime...I never met so many staunch Republicans like I have down in Florida..as far as I can see it is total Bush territory! Regime? Well there was the grandfather, the father and the son...Sure grandpop never made it to president, but very political nevertheless..

You are condemning people based on a LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS, and not facts and I dont think that is right to do.

As far as being mostly Replublican, your immature cracks at the folks who developed The Villages aside....so what ? I lived in a staunch Democratic area....there are both throughout the country.....so what ? If you find the political climate so distasteful and contrary why live here among us bad folks ?

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Bethpage, I'm glad you're living down here. And actually, in The Villages, there are many more Democrats and Independants than one would realize. I forget the exact numbers, but I think of registered voters, it was somethiing like 60% Repubs and 40% Dems and Indies.

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The Villages aside....so what ? I lived in a staunch Democratic area....there are both throughout the country.....


Bucco....not that it's any of my business, but, from your statement above this implies that you are not in The Villages? I guess I had assumed that you were here. Not that it matters....just curious.

Pardon the interruption and let the debate continue....

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07....it looks like Bucco may have at one point lived in a different community....but I think he is here now....just how I read it...

As for the the split...here is another article that gives some percentages of Republicans/Dems/Independants etc....not sure if it is acurate but this paper seems to be pretty unbiased.

http://www.dailycommercial.com/localnews/1030kennedy

Some of the comments I heard last night from the Democrats were "it is nice to be heard...it is nice to see others...it is nice to be out of the political closet". Several people I talked to were long time residents of TV's. They stated that they typically just keep their political views to themselves...but that this election was important enough (in their opinion) to stand up for what they believe.

There were a few people there ofcourse that wanted to see Caroline....just because of who she is...famous people of any kind are exciting.

I also met several republicans there...who are voting for Obama. It was great to meet so many wonderful people....all out for one reason...to help change the country!! No matter who wins....the country has to change! It is exciting!

Did anyone watch Obama's "commercial" last night?

I thought it was GREAT!!!! Whoever is working for his PR campaign are very smart....this is so different from the name calling commercials!!

AND....did you see how many people were in Florida last night to see him speak? WOW!!!

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Bucco....not that it's any of my business, but, from your statement above this implies that you are not in The Villages? I guess I had assumed that you were here. Not that it matters....just curious.

Pardon the interruption and let the debate continue....


For the record...I have lived in The Villages since 2001 !!!!!!

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07....it looks like Bucco may have at one point lived in a different community....but I think he is here now....just how I read it...

As for the the split...here is another article that gives some percentages of Republicans/Dems/Independants etc....not sure if it is acurate but this paper seems to be pretty unbiased.

http://www.dailycommercial.com/localnews/1030kennedy

Some of the comments I heard last night from the Democrats were "it is nice to be heard...it is nice to see others...it is nice to be out of the political closet". Several people I talked to were long time residents of TV's. They stated that they typically just keep their political views to themselves...but that this election was important enough (in their opinion) to stand up for what they believe.

There were a few people there ofcourse that wanted to see Caroline....just because of who she is...famous people of any kind are exciting.

I also met several republicans there...who are voting for Obama. It was great to meet so many wonderful people....all out for one reason...to help change the country!! No matter who wins....the country has to change! It is exciting!

Did anyone watch Obama's "commercial" last night?

I thought it was GREAT!!!! Whoever is working for his PR campaign are very smart....this is so different from the name calling commercials!!

AND....did you see how many people were in Florida last night to see him speak? WOW!!!


Let me explain my problem with this thread....

First the condemnation of the developer is patently unfair. He is a Republican, contributes much to the party and that is his right. He has never hid that fact and he has NEVER STOPPED ANYONE ELSE from campaigning here despite all the best attempts to say that. It is wrong to make those kind of statements.

Then we get a post referring to this as a "republican regime"....come on...so there are more Republicans here..so what !

By the way, I either read this (certainly not on here) or heard it today that The Villages offered Caroline Kennedy a larger area for the rally and was turned down.

PLEASE stop with the conspiracy theories.....many, maybe most, of my friends are Democrats I THINK...never asked...to me it doesnt make any difference and if that is important to anyone...the "regime"..then try to find a place that has a "regime" that you like !

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You are RIGHT! If Mr. Morse is a republican that is his right...and he can give all the money in the world to the party...

I do think that IF...and I mean IF....the democrat party was offered a larger arena for the event...they probably should have taken it...however...they probably did not know how MANY people would have shown up....they probably felt safe with 200-300..instead of over 1000!!!

They were just as surprised as everyone else!!!


Now they know....now they know all the closeted Democrats are coming out...are voting....are interested and want TV's to be somewhere the major nominees can visit! Whatever race they are!

SO..this is a changing year...this a changing community....whether there are more democrats then ever before...or they just feel "safe" enough to show their affiliation!

Either way you look at it....the world, the country, the state and TV's are changing.....my opinion is that is for the good! The good of all!

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Bucco...I am not condeming anyone by saying they are staunch republicans..tehn can be if they want..As for Mr Morse..I think the man is brilliant to acomplish what he has in his lifetime...And if he chooses to endorse the Republican Party..that is his right.... I simply state that the Democratic Party did not get the same publicity as the Republicans when a visiting celebrity came to TV..namely Caroline Kennedy...Yes this is also his right..I dont have to like it...SO do you think I should move because of this??? Sorry neighbor....Dont think so...

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REKOP...Thanks for your kind words...and glad to hear there are more Dems in TV than I thought....But just to let you know, I plan on remaining in TV even when there are more Republicans than I...I think I have that right..Dont you...???

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Of course!

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This is exactly the problem, the hysteria about censorship and the controlling developer created by Cassie's premature post was really something to watch from a distant eye.

Peachie, good observation! Many problems are created by uninformed posts. :ohdear:

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Originally Posted by Peachie
This is exactly the problem, the hysteria about censorship and the controlling developer created by Cassie's premature post was really something to watch from a distant eye.

Peachie, good observation! Many problems are created by uninformed posts.


Well I know that many of my FRIENDS on TOTV have said...just ignore these postings....but I have to say that on this one....it WAS NOT UNINFORMED!!! It was clearly stated on the Obama web site that Caroline was coming....I just said it was my opinion...that The Daily Sun should have at the very least printed this....it was nothing about censorship....nothing about the "controlling" developer....it was just a piece of news that should have been in the paper....

I don't care if one is a Dem or a Repub.....just that it (IMO) should have been printed in the paper....

Caroline Kennedy in TV's in big news!!! This was not uninformed....this was not political...and I believe I stated that....it was just my opinion (and apparently some other's opinions (including your friends)) that it should have been printed.....I did not EVER state who's fault it was....the democrats, The Sun or the developer.....

Do not state that I was uninformed or pre-mature...two days prior to an event is not pre-mature.....:faint:

Talk about sighing:sigh:

:ohdear:...let it go...move on...there are SO many other fish to TRY to fry..

I have EVERY right to state my opinion as you.....

Don't you think you should be bringing up more important things...then what CASSIE has to say.....:1rotfl:

I do believe that some of your "friends" agreed that this type of news should have been printed.....LET IT GO.....agree, disagree....does it really matter....she was here....she had a great show....the Sun wrote it with their Republican slant....oh well....it's over!! Time for you to be over it too!

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Caroline Kennedy in TV's??!!!!

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This was listed on the Obama website....why is this not in the newspaper? This is HUGE! You have to RSVP on the website....
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Cassie, I really don't care to revisit this thread but for clarification; you're remark was premature and caused a large ruffle because of the way you presented the information. If you felt that strongly that the information should have been in the paper, you should have contacted The Daily Sun to find out their intention. If you didn't want to do that, you shouldn't have asked, "why is this not in the newspaper".

I know tabloid news is hot now but I'm not into it. I'd like to see a more even handed tact, personally. And it sounds as though Barefoot was thinking along the same lines.

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In fact Peachie...I did contact the Sun...and the democratic party....and the Obama site.....NO ONE seemed to have a good answer....


I did wonder why it was not in the paper....in my opinion it should have been.....she is a BIG name for TV's....regardless of her affiliation....

I brought it to the attention of TOTV because I knew that there were several others who would want to know....and AGREE that it should have been/could have been posted in the paper....

In fact....if I am not mistaken....I was thanked (by some) for bringing it to their attention!


Bottom line is....
THIS is old news.....why do you (Bare and/or Peachie) feel the need to bring it up once again....I believe it is over!! Most of us have moved on....but thanks for wanting to clarify everything! I am sure it is appreciated.....

I guess it is always good to discuss events that are days old....just to make sure everyone has the info.....in case they may have missed it!

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No one had a "good" answer? Did the Democratic party tell you they had made a press release? You were unsure and then went with your tact. Cassie, there is something to be learned here and you can be the student. You might chaulk this up as; I can do better or... continue more of the same and not learn from this life lesson.

Telling us Caroline was coming to TV's was all we needed to hear.

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No one had a "good" answer? Did the Democratic party tell you they had made a press release? You were unsure and then went with your tact. Cassie, there is something to be learned here and you can be the student. You might chaulk this up as; I can do better or... continue more of the same and not learn from this life lesson.

Telling us Caroline was coming to TV's was all we needed to hear.

Well perhaps what you view as a life lesson for me.....is not important to me!! You are not meant to be my teacher apparently. While I respect the views of others and have learned much from them....I choose not to learn from you...whom I do not know...and have felt nothing but distention from.....

So if your intent here is to TEACH me a lesson....thanks for trying....but I do not choose to live my life the way you see fit.....so please stop worrying about me....stop trying to teach me....I have many other respected "teachers" that offer much better advice......again.....it is old news...move along....time to start a new thought....I am in no doubt that you have one.....perhaps YOU can do better!!

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Cassie, I wasn't trying to teach you, you created the stir. I simply pointed out the people responding on this thread wouldn't have been so upset if the facts were presented differently without any innuendo. I thought you just might learn from YOUR mistake. We all make them.

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My, for someone who is "Peachie" you really don't live up to your name.

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Peachie IS peachie and Cassie is young.

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Rekop, I'm sure you're still upset with me calling you out on your previous posting in which you stated TV wouldn't allow the delivery of USA today. (It appears you have deleted that statement now and I think that was a good idea).

My concern is that people try to post in a responsible manner and not with untrue assertions or trying to inflame emotions with false hype. I told her the thread about Caroline Kennedy coming to TV would have been interesting enough. Let's face it, you probably wouldn't have made the USA Today gaff if it was not for her post and there were other posters who were extremely upset.

There is more than enough stress in the world lately without more being generated by such posts. If you noticed, I did not address anything about Cassie personally, I did address one of her actions.

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Actually, my husband made the gaff about USA Today - he got his info from someone who didn't have all the facts, and for that he apologizes. That aside, I thought your post to Cassie was condescending. But you're right, we all don't need the stress. Let's move on.

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Peachie - you seem to add to a number of those stresses. LET IT GO.

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Bucco...I am not condeming anyone by saying they are staunch republicans..tehn can be if they want..As for Mr Morse..I think the man is brilliant to acomplish what he has in his lifetime...And if he chooses to endorse the Republican Party..that is his right.... I simply state that the Democratic Party did not get the same publicity as the Republicans when a visiting celebrity came to TV..namely Caroline Kennedy...Yes this is also his right..I dont have to like it...SO do you think I should move because of this??? Sorry neighbor....Dont think so...


No, you said and I quote "I think thats terrible but typical of a Republican Regime..."

And added..."do you really think Mr Morse would allow him to speak here?" Guess not...."

I asked you to validate those statements with FACTS..ie., define our "Republican Regime" here so we can see how you see it because that is your feeling which is fine but it is inflamatory language thus how about explaining this "Republican Regime"

Then, you implied, said or whatever that Mr Morse would not "allow" someone to speak here...what is that based on. I can tell you from fact that your statement is patently untrue !

People I know are not even aware of political affliation, and the developer being Republican or Democrat or independent does not affect me or any other residents in anyway !

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Rekop, I'm sure you're still upset with me calling you out on your previous posting in which you stated TV wouldn't allow the delivery of USA today. (It appears you have deleted that statement now and I think that was a good idea).

My concern is that people try to post in a responsible manner and not with untrue assertions or trying to inflame emotions with false hype. I told her the thread about Caroline Kennedy coming to TV would have been interesting enough. Let's face it, you probably wouldn't have made the USA Today gaff if it was not for her post and there were other posters who were extremely upset.

There is more than enough stress in the world lately without more being generated by such posts. If you noticed, I did not address anything about Cassie personally, I did address one of her actions.

Peachie, I admire the fact that you always take the high road when expressing your opinions.

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Peachie - you seem to add to a number of those stresses. LET IT GO.


There is only one person who causes stress on TOTV and I think we ALL have a pretty good idea who that person is.

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Well...I will tell you that Cassie and Rekop have always been super nice to me!!!!
Can't say that for others... I wish people would stop attacking others!!!!There is a close circle of friends...wonderful! You don't need to be mean to others.
Now, I won't get into any fights but I will be so glad when the election is over.

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Peachie is wise.

Some wise quotes I think Peachie (and others) will appreciate:

"Every man is a d**n fool for at least five minutes every day; wisdom consists in not exceeding the limit." (I put in the **.)
Elbert Hubbard

"Wisdom is the reward you get for a lifetime of listening when you'd have preferred to talk."
Doug Larson

"He who devotes sixteen hours a day to hard study may become at sixty as wise as he thought himself at twenty."
Mary Wilson Little

"The more sand that has escaped from the hourglass of our life, the clearer we should see through it."
Jean Paul

"Wisdom begins at the end."
Daniel Webster

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Bright I love your quotes and Peachie I appreciate your wisdom.

Peachie do you remember that old, old Mark Twain story about the young kid (about 20 I think) who felt their father was so dumb - then when he returned home a few years later - wondered how his father became so wise in such a short time?

Now that is a wise young kid to be able to recognize wisdom.

HB

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Peachie is in my humble opinion, intelligent, that's a gift, wise, that is earned, compassionate, that is living, fair, that is character, and OLDER. Thank god, that makes her my peer.

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Oh....come on guys....isn't this "America's Friendliest Hometown"....:):):):)

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Oh....come on guys....isn't this "America's Friendliest Hometown"....:):):):)

I thought so...was told on here it was a "republican regime"

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Bucco..I cannot beleive you are still going on about the Regime..Wanna call me out on it..okay..have a ball..I am so done with this thread. It is petty and foolish to go on and on..We all have our thoughts and opinions and maybe its best to keep the to ourselves..Tuesday is the big day and then Im sure there will be some more opinions and disagreements. Is it all worth it..
We all need to get a life! Thought thats what we were aiming at when we moved to TV..
I'm moving on........

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Bucco..I cannot beleive you are still going on about the Regime..Wanna call me out on it..okay..have a ball..I am so done with this thread. It is petty and foolish to go on and on..We all have our thoughts and opinions and maybe its best to keep the to ourselves..Tuesday is the big day and then Im sure there will be some more opinions and disagreements. Is it all worth it..
We all need to get a life! Thought thats what we were aiming at when we moved to TV..
I'm moving on........


Great...I have lived here for a number of years and never had my hometown called a name as you used...that was my issue. This is a great place to live and political discussion in this forum is one thing, but I would react the same way as if you called my country a name. I am proud of the Villages and politics does not play into it at all at any time !
You made my hometown sound like a politically controlled place when you mentioned "Republican Regime" ! It is not !!!

I am all for political discussion but you cannot in anyway just simply make accusations and statements like that no matter where you live.

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Another suggestion for "next time" is to join your local Democratic club, to be informed of upcoming events. However you decide to vote, you will be able to hear both sides & avoid learning about political visitors' appearances "after the fact".

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what was the topic of this thead any way??? thought i was readying a novel on how not to do to do what ever it was they did..............

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Boy Howdy!!!