What Would Be Wrong With This?

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First, I'll tell you that this statement comes from one who has voted for the GOP candidate for President in every election except 2004 and now 2008. Here's my question...

What would be wrong with a complete sweep on the White House and Congress, including a filibuster-proof Senate?

That's only happened twice before in recent history. What were the results?

Franklin D. Roosevelt had that kind of political power after the 1932 elections. The results were the creation of Social Security, the FDIC to guarantee bank deposits, Fannie Mae to assure the ability of people to buy homes, and the greatest concentration of infrastructure construction on the country's history under the WPA, etc.

The next time an American President had that kind of power was under Lyndon Johnson. In his six years as President Medicare and Medicaid were established, the Civil Rights Act was passed, federal aid to education was signifiantly increased, poverty was attacked with the passage of the Economic Opportunity Act, and after much groundwork being laid during the Johnson administation, the Environmental Protection Act was passed by the Democratically-controlled Congress in the first year of the Nixon administration.

If we were to make as much progress with a Democratic Congress and White House in upcoming years, what would be wrong with that? It seems to me that a whole lot more good was accomplished for the country during those short periods of time than what's been done other than all the bickering and back-biting that has gone on for the last decade or more.

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Without checks and balances, the potential for abuse would be enormous and real. The thought of a veto proof Congress given the radical left wing agenda of Pelosi and Reid is frightening...but, maybe that's just me. They already want to silence the voice of dissent with the Fairness Doctrine. That to me is contrary to everything America stands for and a harbinger of worse abuse coming. What next, re-education camps? Youth brigades? George Orwell's look into the future was off by 25 years. Talk to me about new moderate Democratic leadership in Congress and I'll give it more thought.

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I guess it depend on your perspective and the quality of the people in power. If you were in favor of G. Bush and the Republicans in power, you would have hoped for great things the past 8 years. Unfortunately, they managed to do a good job of trashing the country. I have a lot of belief in Obama and the Democrat agenda, so I would be hopeful that much good would result if they were in power.

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Found these articles interesting.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/12055360/cover_story_time_to_go_inside_the_worst_congress_e ver

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/12054520/the_10_worst_congressmen/3

http://www.america.gov/st/elections08-english/2008/October/20081022145708abretnuh0.6474268.html?CP.rss=true

[Guest]

Not in order of the responses...

•If the character and morality of the members of Congress who we elect has changed so dramatically for the worse over the last couple of decades, this country is in a whole lot more trouble than we can even imagine.

• Cabo, you didn't answer the question I posed in the message beginning the thread. I'm familiar with the stump speech arguments against one party controlling both the legislative and executive branches. My question was what would be wrong if the results of what looks like total control by the Democrats turns out to be as productive for the country as happened under Roosevelt and Johnson?

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I also agree with Kahuna 100%, that there would not be anything wrong with having the likes of Johnson and Roosevelt. In the past 8 years this great country has taken a downward spiral. Wall Street is a pyramid plan that is crashing for all those enticed to invest at the risk of those in control at the top. I never thought I would see this country topple and collapse. It is apparent to me that who we vote for in this election is the deciding factor of allowing the same downward spiral to continue, or of a great new start with hope. The control of lobbyist's personal agendas has to change. Regulation is necessary. At the very top of the pyramid are the few elite that could and should have tax increases. It has just been proven. The war? We need to find an end to war. It just won't happen with McCain. Personally, I would not want Palin anywhere near presidential power. IMHO, she is a DITZ! Hillary is a brilliant woman compared to Palin, and I'm proud of her!
I guess it depend on your perspective and the quality of the people in power. If you were in favor of G. Bush and the Republicans in power, you would have hoped for great things the past 8 years. Unfortunately, they managed to do a good job of trashing the country. I have a lot of belief in Obama and the Democrat agenda, so I would be hopeful that much good would result if they were in power.
I agree, the country has been trashed. It is up to us, as voters, to demand a clean up!!! :crap2:
BTW, our son was just LAID-OFF!
7 months before his wedding!
WHAT A MESS THIS IS!

This is my last political post. Its time to go vote!!
OBAMA 08 The choice is obvious!!

[Guest]

Unfortunately, Obama and the current Dem leadership is NOT the answer. At first I was intrigued with him but I have done a good deal of research on him and he scares me to death. The potential damage to be done with his leftist ideas and the Reid/Pelosi team is frightening to me.

Please refer to the link to Glenn Beck under "If Obama Wins" thread. Pay particular attention to his comments on the constitution about half way through. Listen to the audio if you can.

BTW, I'm not a rabid McCain fan either, but I feel the country is so upset at Washington in general they are grasping at the wrong straws.

Too bad Ron Paul didn't get more traction....he called the whole current financial situation years ago but nobody was listening.

[Guest]

Unfortunately, Obama and the current Dem leadership is NOT the answer. At first I was intrigued with him but I have done a good deal of research on him and he scares me to death. The potential damage to be done with his leftist ideas and the Reid/Pelosi team is frightening to me.

Please refer to the link to Glenn Beck under "If Obama Wins" thread. Pay particular attention to his comments on the constitution about half way through. Listen to the audio if you can.

BTW, I'm not a rabid McCain fan either, but I feel the country is so upset at Washington in general they are grasping at the wrong straws.

Too bad Ron Paul didn't get more traction....he called the whole current financial situation years ago but nobody was listening.

i will agree with this after listening to him in the debates...

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what a novel concept. The current incumbents, regardless of party, are the ones in power while the country has accomplished all the stupid things that got us to this point.

The same dregs will be in power no matter who wins the election.

The same congress with the rating lower than Bush for you Bush bashers....but that seems to not be a concern.

If Obama wins....and we won't know till the election is over will we....the same do nothing gang will be there in both Houses.

Some how we the people just don't get the message...it takes more than a President to make it happen.....NOT HAPPEN!!!!

TBO....DO NOT RE ELECT INCUMBENTS.....

What does it take to wake we the people up on this all important status?

BTK

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The way i see it, McCain has been there forever, Biden has been there forever, Obama is new and is offereing CHANGE. Now Complain about it or not, Something new comes in and everyone has issues with him. To your post. why not elect McCain back, same thing, same policy. You got to start with change somewhere, maybe Obama is the first, next replace all the dregs as you would say. But you can start change unless your willing...

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Nader could have made an impact on obama

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The problem is we all complain about the do nothing Congress but for most of recent past BOTH parties vote the party line. When the Republicans had control the Dems used the filibuster all the time. And the Republicans tired to change the filibuster rule. The only thing that stop it was the gang of seven. Or was it nine. Now that the Dems are in control what is happening.

Geez the Republicans are using the filibuster just as much as the Dems.

So we have 3 choices...vote them all out, vote in a filibuster proof majority or get involved an contact our senators when they don't vote the way we would like.

I know Ken Salazar is tired of me sending him emails.

[Guest]

Unfortunately, Obama and the current Dem leadership is NOT the answer. At first I was intrigued with him but I have done a good deal of research on him and he scares me to death. The potential damage to be done with his leftist ideas and the Reid/Pelosi team is frightening to me.

Please refer to the link to Glenn Beck under "If Obama Wins" thread. Pay particular attention to his comments on the constitution about half way through. Listen to the audio if you can.

BTW, I'm not a rabid McCain fan either, but I feel the country is so upset at Washington in general they are grasping at the wrong straws.

Too bad Ron Paul didn't get more traction....he called the whole current financial situation years ago but nobody was listening.


I have stayed out of the political area for quite some time. This thread intrigues me.

First, to compare Roosevelt and Johnson with Sen Obama is just plain ridiculous in my opinion.

However the reason I responded is that this post from CAPTAIN102 sums it up for me as well and I wanted to support this post.

Those of you who are on the Sen Obama bandwagon are either life long Democrats who vote that way always and that surely is your right OR you are voting AGAINST President Bush and the last 8 years which I can understand.

I say this with GREAT CONFIDENCE because I, as well, was intrigued with Sen Obama but I also did my homework and I have come to the conclusion and say it with great confidence that in 4 years a leadership of Obama, Pelosi and Reid will send this country into such a spiral it will take decades to recover.

ANYONE who has read anything about Sen Obama and I am not speaking of his website or either of his TWO autobiographies can ONLY come to the conclusion that he will not only IMMEDIATELY take us down a socialist road and his judicial appointements (that are appointed FOR LIFE) that will have NO opposition (or any that can do anything about it) will affect our Supreme court possible for many many years. He does not do what he says and he will not do what he says.

I, frankly, do not care what pundits say about his proposals versus Sen McCain because he is not going to do anything he promises except those that include bigger government. I wanted to make this post so that I can come back every 6 months or so and remind you of what you are reaping.

If you feel I am over dramatic, I ask you to stand back..ignore what his campaign says..ignore his slick commercials...ignore his website.....INVESTIGATE...there is so much out there..not opinions..FACTS and so much more. He and his backers are buying this election and as scared as I was of him a few weeks ago when I was posting regularly, I am even more scared now.

He has used, to perfection, all that Sal Alinsky preached. Make them all feel like they are being "screwed" and tell them how bad they have it...THEN promise them how you will make it better !!! Think I made that up....check it out. It ain't goin to happen folks.

Sen Obama is a student of Rev Wright, Bill Ayers, even Farrakhan. You can call me a racist as so many have done in the past, but dont bother because it is not true however THAT PLOY.....of calling anyone who disagrees a racist or hater..... is working for Sen Obama.

Sen McCain is certainly not my choice to lead this nation either and the ONLY thing good about his administration is that we have 2 years to make some serious changes in congress and we, as a country, will not slide away from all the principles that made us great and lead us into the quagmire of all the other socialist countries that we WILL FOLLOW. The world wants Sen Obama because we are at present an impediment and a big one that will totally disappear from sight with an Obama presidency. If you are dismayed that our government is taking over our 401k's under the guise of helping just wait and see what is coming.

To finalize because I know how the attacks begin. I am not talking about Sen Obama's character..he may be a good man as a man is measured..but his idealogoy IS TOTALLY RADICAL AND DECEPTIVE. I am not talking about his wife nor his family..they seem to be very nice folks. I am not talking about his race...if you want to lay that on me because I mentioned Rev Wright or Farrakahn that is up to you, BUT THEY ARE MENTIONED ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE ASSOCIATES...it was not grabbed out of the sky.


I heard an economist on the radio the other day (sorry I do not have his name..did not hear the entire interview and it was NOT on a right wing show at all..it was a business show) say that the ONLY good thing about a Sen Obama presidency is that everything that he will do will screw up our economy so much we will for sure make a radical change back to center and a Sen McCain presidency will not solve anything at all and it will be the same in four years and perhaps we will just continue to tread water. Nice thing to look forward to, huh ? My words on his statement.....if we vote Sen Obama in with the current congress led by Pelosi and Reid, things will be so bad in our economy we will be desperate !

oKay...now going back to my shell and please if you are going to attack me personally, understand that for months I have been posting on here with FACTS and links to support my case and now there are so many more. Nobody disputed ANY of them..they argued with my conclusion for sure, but did not dispute the facts.

[Guest]

I concluded more than a year ago that my only alternative was to NEVER VOTE FOR AN INCUMBENT.

The two things I think had a chance to change things in Washington were term limits for both House and Senate, and the federal government being the sole source of finance for all federal elections (including a time limit on the length of both the primary and general election campaigns). Neither will happen, leaving me (and you I presume) with that only alternative.

By the way, my suggestion for government financing of campaigns would include a prohibition on any advertising by the candidates or the political parties or contributions to either the candidates or parties by anyone--individuals, companies or lobbyists. The special interests would flood the media with advertising, but I can't figure out how to get around the first amendment's allowance for free speech.

While I voted for Obama this time, he's starting "in the hole" for re-election as far as I'm concerned. Unless he performs anything less than brilliantly as a first-term President, he won't get my vote for re-election to a second term.

The only pre-condition I'll place on my commitment to try to vote out the incumbent is if the GOP puts up an idealogue who passes all the litmus tests of the social and religious extreme right-wing, but isn't qualified to be the leader of the most important country in the free world. If that happens, I'll be forced to vote for Obabma again--if he's elected this time. To further define what I mean by my pre-condition, almost any of the candidates that ran for the GOP Presidential nomination this time would get my vote in 2012; Sarah Palin would not.

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I didn't compare Obama with either FDR or Johnson, I simply noted the good things that happened with the executive and legislative branches being under the strong control of a single political party under their administrations.

But you're right as far as I'm concerned--I am not a lifelong Democrat and I am voting against another four years of anything even faintly resembling the George Bush-Republican adminsitration of the last eight years.

As far as the country is concerned, we've already been damaged so badly that it will already take many years for us to recover. There are many dimensions to the damage we've incurred--fiscal, foreign affairs, healthcare, the environment, education, military strength, you name it. There's minimal additional damage that a new adminstration can do that would worsen our situation. If there is some hope for the free markets, it is that the free markets will quickly and severely limit what any new administration can accomplish, specifically any plans that require lots of federal spending. There are very limited additional sources of debt available to the U.S. to finance anything other than our most very basic needs and priorities. I hate the idea of Pelosi and Reid, but the risk I ran in voting for Obama was that there's little more they can do to worsen the damage already done by the Bush administration.

As far as socialism is concerned, we're already well down the slippery slope towards that. Our financial system has already been socialized and it's only a matter of time before other industries line up at the trough. The auto companies have already been nationalized (socialized) to the tune of $25 billion, and they've said that's not enough. They'll be back for more and we'll find no alternative than to add them to the industries on the public dole. Just one more step towards socialism caused by the political leadership of the last couple of decades, an erosion of our business morals and ethics, and almost complete inattention and ignorance of the American electorate. But from where we are now, there are few alternatives. Capitalism and the free markets have failed us and the government must now step in to stem the economic tide that's running against us.

I don't buy into the arguments that Obama embraces the ideas of Wright, Ayers and Aulinsky. If others do, that's their choice. I choose to place much, much greater weight on the evaluations others have made of Obama's intelligence, leadership abilities, management style and commitment to bettering the country. The smoothness and efficiency with which he's run his campaign is enough evidence for me to conclude that he can continue to bring the country together and begin to resolve our many problems. And make no mistake, he has run his campaign, making all the key decsions, very unlike the McCain campaign with staff firings, financial problems, everchanging message and internal disputes. My choice is a bit of a "bet on the come", I admit. But no worse than when I believed George Bush's campaign promises when I voted for him the first time. I voted against his re-election, but there weren't enough like me to prevent a continuation of the damage his administration was doing.

But there'll be no personal attacks from here, Bucco. I assume we'fve both voted and cancelled one another out. Now it's up to everyone else to elect our next President.

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I have to agree with all said here. I could sit here and type all I wanted to on this issue. I can paste links all day that will support one candidate and smear the other, and I believe I have done that. If it is said that McCain is the best choice, I could find plenty to say why your wrong. Same with Obama. With that said, Kahuna and Bucco have covered just about everything. It now comes down to personal choice, and that is something you can't argue about with someone. That is why this is the United States of America. That is what makes our country so good.
I do believe that we need to find a way to stop the attacks on anyone that runs for office that are not warranted. I have been sitting at my computer researching both candidates online and looking at topics that are posted here. And depending on who you want to be in office you can spin the topic to be in favor of your choice. I voted for Obama and i am a Republican, i did so on everything i have seen and read and listned to on the news, net, radio and seen in person. I sat in line to vote Saturday and listnend to a man from a Hard Line Republican retirement community talk why he was votinf for Obama but not be willing to broadcast it due to where he lives. He said he works in The Villages but was given a sample ballot by his employer on how to vote and all the republicans were marked down. That is sad to say..
We as a society have allowed this to happen to us ourselves. I keep thinking of a big party that happend in a place up north that had to do with Taxation withour Representation. One day we will have enough and us as a nation will finally step up and let it be known. We want The Change.

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Glad your back on the board Bucco. Missed you. Do you have any idea what it's been like shoveling sand against the tide without your thoughtful perspectives and support? Just remember though, the tide eventually turns.

Don't be a stranger. I understand your frustration but you have to admit, the keystrokes you invest in this forum are at least mildly therapeutic. So ....be of good cheer, don't be discouraged. You may never convert any posters, but, your opinions are always welcome, insightful and appreciated. Further, almost 50%, maybe more, of enlightened Americans agree with you.

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Gmoney, good post. Bucco, in case you haven't noticed, the country is already in a downward spiral that will take many years to recover from, in large part thanks to Republicans controlling congress for 10 of the past 12 years, and 8 years of Bushenomics. Yet to each his/her own. I have great confidence in Obama's intelligence, his choice of running mate, and his advisors, so if anyone can dig this country out of the hole it is now in, it will be Obama's adminstration.

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Glad your back on the board Bucco. Missed you. Do you have any idea what it's been like shoveling sand against the tide without your thoughtful perspectives and support? Just remember though, the tide eventually turns.

Don't be a stranger. I understand your frustration but you have to admit, the keystrokes you invest in this forum are at least mildly therapeutic. So ....be of good cheer, don't be discouraged. You may never convert any posters, but, your opinions are always welcome, insightful and appreciated. Further, almost 50%, maybe more, of enlightened Americans agree with you.

i agree,,, bucco makes alot of great points when he post!!!

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Gmoney, good post. Bucco, in case you haven't noticed, the country is already in a downward spiral that will take many years to recover from, in large part thanks to Republicans controlling congress for 10 of the past 12 years, and 8 years of Bushenomics. Yet to each his/her own. I have great confidence in Obama's intelligence, his choice of running mate, and his advisors, so if anyone can dig this country out of the hole it is now in, it will be Obama's adminstration.


I strongly suggest that you read a bit about Sen Obama !!! His background, his training and his associates and what he has said in the past and ignore what he is saying right now !!!

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Glad your back on the board Bucco. Missed you. Do you have any idea what it's been like shoveling sand against the tide without your thoughtful perspectives and support? Just remember though, the tide eventually turns.

Don't be a stranger. I understand your frustration but you have to admit, the keystrokes you invest in this forum are at least mildly therapeutic. So ....be of good cheer, don't be discouraged. You may never convert any posters, but, your opinions are always welcome, insightful and appreciated. Further, almost 50%, maybe more, of enlightened Americans agree with you.

Thanks Cabo....and I suppose in a way it is therapeutic !!! :)

I could do a monologue on your comment...."Further, almost 50%, maybe more, of enlightened Americans agree with you." I heard a comment last week that had that figure much higher. HOWEVER, the "enlightened" and "innovative" ways to get voters is sort of a setback.

I am waiting, and you can bet the farm on this one....after the election..well after...but if Sen Obama wins as the polls suggest, there will come out so much crap on registration, voting and fund raising IF AND ONLY IF,he ticks off the press...if he stays nice nice with them, you will never hear it but if you look around, you can find all the smoke you want on the registration and fund raising...all being pooh poohed by the Sen Obama campaign and the mainstream media !

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:agree::agree::agree: Kahunna..I so agree with you..Nothing wrong with anything that WE AMERICANS inherited from the wonderful era of FDR.....Repuplican party has brought the USA to its knees. Obahma may not get everything done that he has promised but not for lack of trying. He is pasionate about this country and it's people..We need passion and determination to move forward...

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I've stated before that I'm no GW or JM fan but I am truly scared what will happen of BO wins. I have no doubt that he will take our county to the brink of financial and social disaster. Mark my words, the last couple months will pale in comparison especially if we have a dem super majority in congress which likely we will.

One guy at my work said he was voting for BO because he hated GW and the current administration. I asked if he truly knew what BO was proposing and he said "I don't really care what he's proposing." It literally sent a chill up my spine. I fear there are millions more just like him. They want change for the sake of change and they don't really care what the change is.

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I've stated before that I'm no GW or JM fan but I am truly scared what will happen of BO wins. I have no doubt that he will take our county to the brink of financial and social disaster. Mark my words, the last couple months will pale in comparison especially if we have a dem super majority in congress which likely we will.

One guy at my work said he was voting for BO because he hated GW and the current administration. I asked if he truly knew what BO was proposing and he said "I don't really care what he's proposing." It literally sent a chill up my spine. I fear there are millions more just like him. They want change for the sake of change and they don't really care what the change is.


Your post is so typical DKLASSEN ! Folks will vote for this guy JUST TO HAVE CHANGE, without knowing about this man. If the polls are correct, we are voting a regime into office that has such damaging potential to all aspects of our life. We know so little about this guy and what we know validates all those "chills up your spine" !

I dont think I have ever said such a thing about any candidate, but I have also never investigated one so deeply. This is sort of like watching a B movie as he charms his way to the WH, and a with campaign financing he never does what he says he will do...NEVER...yet we still follow him !!

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Could it possibly be that the people have seen something different the what you may see. I know it hard to believe that others have their eyes and ears open as we do. The same can be said for McCain, i am sure there are people voting for him just because they dont want Obama in office. Weather it be due to race, religion or things that have been said. He is telling the country what they want and need to hear. Hard for me gather that there are so many people wrong and you guys might be the only right ones.
I will give it to the McCain-Palin. Having Joe the Plumber on stage with her, That really makes me want to vote for them. Got to be kidding me, then he makes his own policy speech for mccain that obama is against Israel. that was real smart. You even have Fox News talking about how missed up that was. That is who you want for President and the CEO of this nation, someone who brings a guy like to the talking for you. Really smart move....

The enormous gap between what US leaders do in the world and what Americans think their leaders are doing is one of the great propaganda accomplishments of the dominate political mythology. - Michael Parenti

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I guess this really could be bantered back and forth for quite some time but history will tell the true story. If the American people see fit to put BO in control of our country I'm sure this thread will be revisited in a few years. I stand on my guarantee that many will be very surprised at the actual change they end up with.

One of BO and JB's main campaign PROMISES that each have drilled in into our heads at least a thousand times is that 95% of ALL Americans will get tax cuts. I am one of those 95%. Well see.

It will be interesting to see how he works out spending a trillion new dollars in programs, gets everyone health care and gives 95% of all Americans a tax cut and at the same time creates new jobs from those companies he's vowed to raise taxes on. Keep in mind these are all things he himself promised us and are his main campaign talking points.

I like JM’s plan better. Leave the Bush tax cuts in place at current levels, cut capitol gains rate to spur growth and investment in companies (works every time it’s tried) and put in place an across the board Washington spending freeze until they can get their own house in order and sort this mess out. Call me crazy but that approach sounds pretty practical to me.

It’s a proven fact that when you cut the capitol gains rate, more jobs are created. More people working brings in more money to Washington and more money goes into social security. Something I’m sure we are all interested in. The democrats turn that around and call it tax breaks for the wealthy. I’ve asked this a hundred times, when in your lifetime has a poor person ever provided a job for you you?

BO actually wants to increase the capitol gains rate under the premise that he can redistribute the money to people who aren’t paying taxes in the first place which is about 42% of our population.

How does that create jobs?

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I think the fundamental premise of the OP is flawed. I find it odd that an administration that oversaw 8 years of depression (not recession) is looked back at in a favorable light. A lot of what FDR and his rubber stamp congress did (such as huge tax increases and protectionism) directly contributed to the length of the depression. Were it not for the rise of an even more prominent threat (war in Europe and Asia), FDR would have been thrown out of office in 1940.

Likewise with LBJ, I think a lot of what he did with his Great Society has led to the rot and despair of today's inner city.

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Yes! bucco is awesome. Good job guy!


Abraham Lincoln:
Public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment nothing can fail; without it nothing can succeed. He who molds public sentiment goes deeper than he who enacts statutes or decisions possible or impossible to execute.

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Franklin D. Roosevelt had that kind of political power after the 1932 elections. The results were the creation of Social Security, the FDIC to guarantee bank deposits, Fannie Mae to assure the ability of people to buy homes.

Speaking of Social Security, I also think that was one the biggest frauds ever perpetrated on the American people.

You pay into it all your life and the government keeps raising the age limit to get it back hoping you’ll die before you actually need it. Not only that, even though the money is yours, what happens if you go out an try to earn a little extra to supplement it? You can only do so much before you are panelized. Wait a minute; I thought the money I paid in was mine?

Imagine if banks did that with your savings account. After retirement you start drawing out a little each month. Then you get a letter from the bank telling saying you are earning too much on the side and you can’t draw out as much each month.

Who would stand for that? But yet when the government does it to us we just shake our heads and live with it.

I heard the other day that one of BO’s inner circle proposed to get rid of 401k’s and roll your money to the government where they can dole it out with your SSI checks w/ 3% interest. Is there nothing we have they aren’t trying to figure out a way to grab control of?

And Fannie Mae? They sure did assure the ability of people to buy homes, even the ones who can’t afford to pay for them. Seems that one got us in a bit of a pickle also.

With the exception of our fine Military I don’t see much of anything the government ever gets right, especially social programs (via FDR’s new deal). We’ve transferred trillions of dollars into social programs and still we have poverty and some people who just can’t seem to make it.

How much more of our money do we need to send to Uncle Sam to insure other people’s future?

I have a radical idea. How about the government let’s us keep our money so we can inure our own futures.