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Guest
10-29-2008, 05:29 AM
Not tyring to stir up the pot, but Palin is making the big deal that Obama is trying to take us to Socialism.
Now the remeark she made about Alaska being so different from the other states.. Wouldnt this be SOCIALISM????
""And Alaska - we're set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs."
read the entire article. i know alot of you are not MSNBC fans since they are not on the McCain wagon, but she did say this, even at the debate i belive.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27424491/
Guest
10-29-2008, 05:54 AM
I can't get too excited about anything she says. As far as she's demonstrated, she has little in the way of intellectual power of her own - she's basically a shill for the McCain campaign.
Guest
10-29-2008, 07:08 AM
Not tyring to stir up the pot, but Palin is making the big deal that Obama is trying to take us to Socialism.
Now the remeark she made about Alaska being so different from the other states.. Wouldnt this be SOCIALISM????
""And Alaska - we're set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs."
read the entire article. i know alot of you are not MSNBC fans since they are not on the McCain wagon, but she did say this, even at the debate i belive.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27424491/
There is a tad bit of difference between sharing NATURAL RESOURCES and sharing any hard earned money I have,which is directly what Sen Obama will lead us to. As he said, when you make "too much money" you got to share. So what would be the motivation to even be a success if he is going to take it and share it with someone who does not care, or work.
In talking about his Global Poverty Act which will become law if he is elected..he says directly...not only in this country, but he wants to "redistribute the worlds wealth"
If Sen Obama wants us to share our natural resources but leave my money alone , I am with him !
Guest
10-29-2008, 07:23 AM
Too add to this, what follows is a DIRECT QUOTE from a radio interview that Sen Obama had in 2001....
"WBEZ.FM IN 2001)
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and served more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society. And one of the — I think — the tragedies of the civil rights movement was because the civil rights movement became so court focused. I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change. In some ways, we still suffer from that."
In this short paragraph you see what his priorities will be, no matter what he tells us now.
Guest
10-29-2008, 07:39 AM
There is a tad bit of difference between sharing NATURAL RESOURCES and sharing any hard earned money I have,which is directly what Sen Obama will lead us to. As he said, when you make "too much money" you got to share. So what would be the motivation to even be a success if he is going to take it and share it with someone who does not care, or work.
In talking about his Global Poverty Act which will become law if he is elected..he says directly...not only in this country, but he wants to "redistribute the worlds wealth"
If Sen Obama wants us to share our natural resources but leave my money alone , I am with him !
agree with you, alittle iffy on how things will come out. i do believe if elected he will not be able to get away with alot with out the people watching every little step. But then again the people of this nation will be watching who ever wins.
Whenever "A" attempts by law to impose his moral standards upon "B," "A" is most likely a scoundrel
-- H.L. Mencken
Guest
10-29-2008, 03:41 PM
Even while Sarah Palin was criticizing Barack Obama for being a Socialist, John McCain was essentially admitting that socialism is about the only way that the current financial crisis in the country can be resolved.
In a TV interview on Sunday night--sorry, I don't remember the channel or the program--the interviewer asked MCain the direct question of whether the recently approved government bailout legislation--which McCain claims to have been active in getting passed--wasn't actually socialism. McCain dodged the question as any good politician would, but answered that the crisis facing the nation was so dire that the government had to step in with some sort of solution. He explained that whatever it's called, tnat was the only alternative at the moment.
I'd suggest that both candidates steer away from pointing at the other and accusing them of socialism. We are in the process of having several of our major industries socialized. The only real question on the table is how long it will take us to return to a purely capitalistic, free market economy? Unfortunately, the tag line on the question is..."if ever?"
Guest
10-29-2008, 06:53 PM
Even while Sarah Palin was criticizing Barack Obama for being a Socialist, John McCain was essentially admitting that socialism is about the only way that the current financial crisis in the country can be resolved.
In a TV interview on Sunday night--sorry, I don't remember the channel or the program--the interviewer asked MCain the direct question of whether the recently approved government bailout legislation--which McCain claims to have been active in getting passed--wasn't actually socialism. McCain dodged the question as any good politician would, but answered that the crisis facing the nation was so dire that the government had to step in with some sort of solution. He explained that whatever it's called, tnat was the only alternative at the moment.
I'd suggest that both candidates steer away from pointing at the other and accusing them of socialism. We are in the process of having several of our major industries socialized. The only real question on the table is how long it will take us to return to a purely capitalistic, free market economy? Unfortunately, the tag line on the question is..."if ever?"
In an article in the Worcester Telegram (MA) Oct 28, 2008
Entitled ,29 crash anniversary echoes anew on Street
Excerpts:
"Basically, the government did exactly the opposit of what they should have been doing," said Sung Won Sohn, an economics professor at California State University. When we think about these things today, it's almost ridiculous and comical what we did back then."
"The fed just sat by and watched thousands of depository institutions fail" said Vincent R. Reinhart, director of the Federal Reserve's monetary affairs division. "That's a major difference from the current policy. Now we understand the role of credit, and the policymakers feel a responsibility for stabilizing that activity."
I keep my fingers crossed that the so called 'bailout", which I consider to be necessary at this time because of past history with the depression, is temporary at best. Only Congress can make the current situation short or turn it into a new government entitlement boondoggle. We haven't been a completely capitalistic, free market system since the crash of '29, when our government started being the provider of what they call fairness and protection.
Guest
10-29-2008, 06:54 PM
"i do believe if elected he will not be able to get away with alot with out the people watching every little step. But then again the people of this nation will be watching who ever wins. "
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Who, may I respectfully ask, is going to stop anything he wants to do ? Pelosi ? Reid ?
They are not listening to the people of the nation now so why do it when they will say they have a mandate ?
Guest
10-29-2008, 07:02 PM
Even while Sarah Palin was criticizing Barack Obama for being a Socialist, John McCain was essentially admitting that socialism is about the only way that the current financial crisis in the country can be resolved.
In a TV interview on Sunday night--sorry, I don't remember the channel or the program--the interviewer asked MCain the direct question of whether the recently approved government bailout legislation--which McCain claims to have been active in getting passed--wasn't actually socialism. McCain dodged the question as any good politician would, but answered that the crisis facing the nation was so dire that the government had to step in with some sort of solution. He explained that whatever it's called, tnat was the only alternative at the moment.
I'd suggest that both candidates steer away from pointing at the other and accusing them of socialism. We are in the process of having several of our major industries socialized. The only real question on the table is how long it will take us to return to a purely capitalistic, free market economy? Unfortunately, the tag line on the question is..."if ever?"
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I will agree that the bail out was surely a socialist step and one that I opposed totally ! But you are ignoring all the socialist programs that Sen Obama brings to the table or proposes to bring to the table or has espoused over the years !!
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