Golf cart speed rant...

[theruizs]

I learned that the speed limit for golf carts that are not street legal is 20mph. So I spent the extra money for a street legal cart with a speed limit of 25mph and spent the extra money to license it. It also costs more to insure them. So when I am driving on a street and get passed by non-licensed golf carts clearly going over 20 and even over 25, it really irks me. If there was any evidence that the sheriff or police where doing anythin significant about it, it would not bother me so much. However, with the number of clearly illegally modified golf carts out there, it is clear they are having ZERO impact on the problem. Why not just drop the speed limit since no one seems to pay any attention to it anyway, or start spending more time and effort to enforce it at a level that is equal to the level of those ignoring the law? A PSA occassionally on Television is NOT a good use of time or resources to impact the problem. It is simply to give the appearance that something is being done. And the realivtively tiny number of infractions that actually get ticketed are also meaningless, they are too few in comparison with the size of the problem. For me, if this is still ignored when it is time to renew my LSV registration, I am dumping it and just doing what everyone else seems to be doing, getting a free ride on an illegally modified golf cart.

[CWGUY]

I learned that the speed limit for golf carts that are not street legal is 20mph. So I spent the extra money for a street legal cart with a speed limit of 25mph and spent the extra money to license it. It also costs more to insure them. So when I am driving on a street and get passed by non-licensed golf carts clearly going over 20 and even over 25, it really irks me. If there was any evidence that the sheriff or police where doing anythin significant about it, it would not bother me so much. However, with the number of clearly illegally modified golf carts out there, it is clear they are having ZERO impact on the problem. Why not just drop the speed limit since no one seems to pay any attention to it anyway, or start spending more time and effort to enforce it at a level that is equal to the level of those ignoring the law? A PSA occassionally on Television is NOT a good use of time or resources to impact the problem. It is simply to give the appearance that something is being done. And the realivtively tiny number of infractions that actually get ticketed are also meaningless, they are too few in comparison with the size of the problem. For me, if this is still ignored when it is time to renew my LSV registration, I am dumping it and just doing what everyone else seems to be doing, getting a free ride on an illegally modified golf cart.



:police: I'm sure that will help the problem. chilout

[JoelJohnson]

So they should use highly trained police officers to ticket a few golf carts? I do agree that these carts are small problem, but I'm not a fan taking officers from dealing with bigger problems.

[dewilson58]

The good thing is, this is a minor problem.

In every situation, religious group, organization, family, etc., there are a few who cause issues.

The majority are good.

[tomwed]

Doesn't it bring you any comfort that you are insured and they are not? That you did the right thing. And if they are insured, the insurance company has the right not to cover any altered vehicle?

You haven't made that many posts. I suspect you're going to run into lot's of things that will set you off but not set off most people on TOTV.

[unless you're just making statements to inflame others just for sport]

[golfing eagles]

I learned that the speed limit for golf carts that are not street legal is 20mph. So I spent the extra money for a street legal cart with a speed limit of 25mph and spent the extra money to license it. It also costs more to insure them. So when I am driving on a street and get passed by non-licensed golf carts clearly going over 20 and even over 25, it really irks me. If there was any evidence that the sheriff or police where doing anythin significant about it, it would not bother me so much. However, with the number of clearly illegally modified golf carts out there, it is clear they are having ZERO impact on the problem. Why not just drop the speed limit since no one seems to pay any attention to it anyway, or start spending more time and effort to enforce it at a level that is equal to the level of those ignoring the law? A PSA occassionally on Television is NOT a good use of time or resources to impact the problem. It is simply to give the appearance that something is being done. And the realivtively tiny number of infractions that actually get ticketed are also meaningless, they are too few in comparison with the size of the problem. For me, if this is still ignored when it is time to renew my LSV registration, I am dumping it and just doing what everyone else seems to be doing, getting a free ride on an illegally modified golf cart.

I agree that speeding golf carts are a safety problem. These carts were not designed for speeds over 20 mph, they can flip on turns, and let's face it, TV does not have the best drivers in the world. And that's the adults, not the 7 year old grandchildren that end up behind the wheel. Just yesterday I was on Pinellas Place, going 20.4 mph and a non-street legal cart blew by me like I was standing still---had to be doing between 28 and 34. He passed a few cars as well.
That being said, I'm not sure if your post is rooted in safety, or are you just p!$$ed off that you spent all that money to go an extra 5 mph that many seem to be doing (illegally) for free?

[FlamingoFlo]

With so many visitors here, I would guess a lot go on the roads by mistake. Yes, I'm sure there are a few that don't care about rules and do it intentionally. Also, I think visitors see the street legal carts on the street and don't realize the difference. When we first moved here we did it once totally by mistake in an area we couldn't get out of easily. Recently some friends that have been here 8 years moved to a new area and went right out into the traffic circle. By the time they knew they screwed up it was just better to keep going and get on the path as soon as they could.

[theruizs]

So they should use highly trained police officers to ticket a few golf carts? I do agree that these carts are small problem, but I'm not a fan taking officers from dealing with bigger problems.

If you think this is a small problem, you are not very observant. And take police/deputies from what bigger issues? It can't be from enforcing the speed limit on the roads for cars, they don't do that either, especially with vendors. Everything seems likea a small problem to some people, until they are affected by it. These carts are not safe, and there are LOTs of them, not a few. As our population grows, it will get worse if not stopped. These are "multi-modal" paths where people walk, dogs are walked, and bikes are riden.

[theruizs]

I was being facetious, although I have no doubt others who have also taken on the additional expense of registration might think that way.

[billethkid]

Hopefully the axes being ground in this thread are sharp(er) now.

[theruizs]

golfing eagles, probably both of course, but safety primarily.

[theruizs]

I agree that speeding golf carts are a safety problem. These carts were not designed for speeds over 20 mph, they can flip on turns, and let's face it, TV does not have the best drivers in the world. And that's the adults, not the 7 year old grandchildren that end up behind the wheel. Just yesterday I was on Pinellas Place, going 20.4 mph and a non-street legal cart blew by me like I was standing still---had to be doing between 28 and 34. He passed a few cars as well.
That being said, I'm not sure if your post is rooted in safety, or are you just p!$$ed off that you spent all that money to go an extra 5 mph that many seem to be doing (illegally) for free?

Probably both of course, but safety primarily.

[JoMar]

Still don't understand what an LSV gets you for the investment. 5 MPH is insignificant, cars are still faster and bigger so one error will get you killed. EGO? I'm a believer that all carts should be insured so that should come off the the table.

[Bogie Shooter]

If you think this is a small problem, you are not very observant. And take police/deputies from what bigger issues? It can't be from enforcing the speed limit on the roads for cars, they don't do that either, especially with vendors. Everything seems likea a small problem to some people, until they are affected by it. These carts are not safe, and there are LOTs of them, not a few. As our population grows, it will get worse if not stopped. These are "multi-modal" paths where people walk, dogs are walked, and bikes are riden.

Try speeding south of Palmer CC on Buena Vista..........they are there several times a month, always with many customers.

[Bogie Shooter]

I learned that the speed limit for golf carts that are not street legal is 20mph. So I spent the extra money for a street legal cart with a speed limit of 25mph and spent the extra money to license it. It also costs more to insure them. So when I am driving on a street and get passed by non-licensed golf carts clearly going over 20 and even over 25, it really irks me. If there was any evidence that the sheriff or police where doing anythin significant about it, it would not bother me so much. However, with the number of clearly illegally modified golf carts out there, it is clear they are having ZERO impact on the problem. Why not just drop the speed limit since no one seems to pay any attention to it anyway, or start spending more time and effort to enforce it at a level that is equal to the level of those ignoring the law? A PSA occassionally on Television is NOT a good use of time or resources to impact the problem. It is simply to give the appearance that something is being done. And the realivtively tiny number of infractions that actually get ticketed are also meaningless, they are too few in comparison with the size of the problem. For me, if this is still ignored when it is time to renew my LSV registration, I am dumping it and just doing what everyone else seems to be doing, getting a free ride on an illegally modified golf cart.

Really cannot justify the extra $$ for cart and insurance so you can go 25mph and cruise down Morse Blvd & Buena Vista.

[bagboy]

Still don't understand what an LSV gets you for the investment. 5 MPH is insignificant, cars are still faster and bigger so one error will get you killed. EGO? I'm a believer that all carts should be insured so that should come off the the table.

I agree with you. Personally, I would not want to operate any golf cart on Buena Vista, Morse Blvd. etc. Or cross 27/441 or even Rolling Acres. They are legal though, so it's a matter of choice. There was a time when there was a significant tax credit offered for buying LSVs and NEVs. That could have factored into decision making for buying a street legal cart.
Recently, those street legal carts owners were offered a reprieve from vehicle registration with the state. With proof that they modified their cart to operate at 20 mph, the street legal cart owners could have that tag dropped, and they would become regular golf carts that could operate where non street legal carts do. I'm of the opinion that some owners (not all of course) took advantage of the reprieve, then tweaked their cart speed back up, gaming the system if you will.

[tomwed]

Still don't understand what an LSV gets you for the investment.
You can ride on the roads that are under 35 mph.

[golfing eagles]

You can ride on the roads that are under 35 mph.

And if you do, you might just end up at the funeral home 5 mph. quicker

[tomwed]

And if you do, you might just end up at the funeral home 5 mph. quicker
It wouldn't be my first choice in transportation but at least he now understands why some choose LSV's.

[golfing eagles]

It wouldn't be my first choice in transportation but at least he now understands why some choose LSV's.

I just don't understand why anyone would WANT to. It's the Villages equivalent of sending your kid out to play in traffic. What did Scotty say to Kirk in an episode where they lost main power and the Klingons were attacking?---"We can wallow like a garbage scow in front of a warp driven starship"?

[tomwed]

I just don't understand why anyone would WANT to. It's the Villages equivalent of sending your kid out to play in traffic. What did Scotty say to Kirk in an episode where they lost main power and the Klingons were attacking?---"We can wallow like a garbage scow in front of a warp driven starship"?
It's bigger, faster and I'll say safer than a bike but smaller than a garbage scow.

[golfing eagles]

It's bigger, faster and I'll say safer than a bike but smaller than a garbage scow.

Also smells better:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[rubicon]

I learned that the speed limit for golf carts that are not street legal is 20mph. So I spent the extra money for a street legal cart with a speed limit of 25mph and spent the extra money to license it. It also costs more to insure them. So when I am driving on a street and get passed by non-licensed golf carts clearly going over 20 and even over 25, it really irks me. If there was any evidence that the sheriff or police where doing anythin significant about it, it would not bother me so much. However, with the number of clearly illegally modified golf carts out there, it is clear they are having ZERO impact on the problem. Why not just drop the speed limit since no one seems to pay any attention to it anyway, or start spending more time and effort to enforce it at a level that is equal to the level of those ignoring the law? A PSA occassionally on Television is NOT a good use of time or resources to impact the problem. It is simply to give the appearance that something is being done. And the realivtively tiny number of infractions that actually get ticketed are also meaningless, they are too few in comparison with the size of the problem. For me, if this is still ignored when it is time to renew my LSV registration, I am dumping it and just doing what everyone else seems to be doing, getting a free ride on an illegally modified golf cart.

theriuz:

Let me get this straight . You were willing to pay more for insurance and annual registration fees so that you can go 5mph more than other carts? Being able to travel roads where other carts cannot legally go doesn't give you the satisfaction you seek? You probably made this additional investment because you recognized that The Villages is really spreading out and one needs to take advantage of ways to manage distant and time.

In addition you express a loss of a schenfreude moment at the thought that those carts drivers who did not pay for street legal but, exceed 20mph are not being punished.

You may have not recognized that those cart drivers who use the MMP's legally may be upset that you may be traveling over 20 mph and possibly the full extent of 25mph on MMP's but unaware that you feel justified because you paid extra for the additional speed?

More to the point this obsession over 5 mph is more than I can handle any longer because it is getting really over exaggerated and keeps repeating on TOTV and in the scheme of things amounts to bupkus.

I have a sneaking suspicion that like highways some drivers just get upset for whatever reason when someone passes them as if the moving vehicle has no right to pass them; albeit you have my agreement if it is an unsafe passing situation

There was one poster on here who once said that he believed all drivers should not exceed the 45mph on 466. To ensure so he stayed in the left lane at 45mph to hold back traffic.


Theriuz, this post may speak to your mind and your heart? I hope not?

Personal Best Regards:

[golfing eagles]

There was one poster on here who once said that he believed all drivers should not exceed the 45mph on 466. To ensure so he stayed in the left lane at 45mph to hold back traffic
Personal Best Regards:

And they wonder why road rage is more and more prevalent

[golfing eagles]

And I'm not finished with that idiot

He and everyone like him should be cited for failure to keep right, before someone gets really p!$$ed off and runs him off the road or worse. Who does he think he is to dictate driving terms to everyone else?

[RickeyD]

And I'm not finished with that idiot



He and everyone like him should be cited for failure to keep right, before someone gets really p!$$ed off and runs him off the road or worse. Who does he think he is to dictate driving terms to everyone else?


He's a curmudgeon, let it be.

[outlaw]

theriuz:

Let me get this straight . You were willing to pay more for insurance and annual registration fees so that you can go 5mph more than other carts? Being able to travel roads where other carts cannot legally go doesn't give you the satisfaction you seek? You probably made this additional investment because you recognized that The Villages is really spreading out and one needs to take advantage of ways to manage distant and time.

In addition you express a loss of a schenfreude moment at the thought that those carts drivers who did not pay for street legal but, exceed 20mph are not being punished.

You may have not recognized that those cart drivers who use the MMP's legally may be upset that you may be traveling over 20 mph and possibly the full extent of 25mph on MMP's but unaware that you feel justified because you paid extra for the additional speed?

More to the point this obsession over 5 mph is more than I can handle any longer because it is getting really over exaggerated and keeps repeating on TOTV and in the scheme of things amounts to bupkus.

I have a sneaking suspicion that like highways some drivers just get upset for whatever reason when someone passes them as if the moving vehicle has no right to pass them; albeit you have my agreement if it is an unsafe passing situation

There was one poster on here who once said that he believed all drivers should not exceed the 45mph on 466. To ensure so he stayed in the left lane at 45mph to hold back traffic.


Theriuz, this post may speak to your mind and your heart? I hope not?

Personal Best Regards:

George Carlin had it right: something like "Ever notice that when someone passes you they are an "@55hole", and when you pass someone driving slower they are a "moron"?

[rubicon]

He's a curmudgeon, let it be.

rickey: the extra emphasis by posters is not for this OP but other potential curmudgeons lurking out there.

[rubicon]

And those are his best regards.

tomwed: best regards, best wishes always civil, always friendly. You could even hit my golf ball by mistake and I wouldn't get mad at you:wave:

[Rapscallion St Croix]

theriuz:

Let me get this straight . You were willing to pay more for insurance and annual registration fees so that you can go 5mph more than other carts? Being able to travel roads where other carts cannot legally go doesn't give you the satisfaction you seek? You probably made this additional investment because you recognized that The Villages is really spreading out and one needs to take advantage of ways to manage distant and time.

In addition you express a loss of a schenfreude moment at the thought that those carts drivers who did not pay for street legal but, exceed 20mph are not being punished.

You may have not recognized that those cart drivers who use the MMP's legally may be upset that you may be traveling over 20 mph and possibly the full extent of 25mph on MMP's but unaware that you feel justified because you paid extra for the additional speed?

More to the point this obsession over 5 mph is more than I can handle any longer because it is getting really over exaggerated and keeps repeating on TOTV and in the scheme of things amounts to bupkus.

I have a sneaking suspicion that like highways some drivers just get upset for whatever reason when someone passes them as if the moving vehicle has no right to pass them; albeit you have my agreement if it is an unsafe passing situation

There was one poster on here who once said that he believed all drivers should not exceed the 45mph on 466. To ensure so he stayed in the left lane at 45mph to hold back traffic.


Theriuz, this post may speak to your mind and your heart? I hope not?

Personal Best Regards:

A true sesquipedalian should always make sure that the words they use actually exist.

[tomwed]

George Carlin had it right: something like "Ever notice that when someone passes you they are an "@55hole", and when you pass someone driving slower they are a "moron"?
He did.

[tomwed]

A true sesquipedalian should always make sure that the words they use actually exist.
How about the others?

[rubicon]

A true sesquipedalian should always make sure that the words they use actually exist.

Rapscallion St Croix: What an elegant username. My use of the word schadenfreude does exist. My keyboard skills have diminished and hence the "e"vis a vis ä" . I'm down to a two finger pecking But I have an excuse I'm just getting over a cold.

[golfing eagles]

tomwed: best regards, best wishes always civil, always friendly. You could even hit my golf ball by mistake and I wouldn't get mad at you:wave:

Please don't hit my golf ball. Friendly, civil best wishes and regards:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I learned that the speed limit for golf carts that are not street legal is 20mph. So I spent the extra money for a street legal cart with a speed limit of 25mph and spent the extra money to license it. It also costs more to insure them. So when I am driving on a street and get passed by non-licensed golf carts clearly going over 20 and even over 25, it really irks me. If there was any evidence that the sheriff or police where doing anythin significant about it, it would not bother me so much. However, with the number of clearly illegally modified golf carts out there, it is clear they are having ZERO impact on the problem. Why not just drop the speed limit since no one seems to pay any attention to it anyway, or start spending more time and effort to enforce it at a level that is equal to the level of those ignoring the law? A PSA occassionally on Television is NOT a good use of time or resources to impact the problem. It is simply to give the appearance that something is being done. And the realivtively tiny number of infractions that actually get ticketed are also meaningless, they are too few in comparison with the size of the problem. For me, if this is still ignored when it is time to renew my LSV registration, I am dumping it and just doing what everyone else seems to be doing, getting a free ride on an illegally modified golf cart.

As I'm sure you know, having a licensed LSV allows you to travel on some streets where golf carts are not allowed. If someone has a cart that goes 25 or more and they drive on Buena Vista or around the round abouts they have a very good chance of being pulled over.

If you drop the license, registration and insurance you will no longer be able to travel these routes and be forced to take the longer MMPs.

If that's what you want to do then by all means just drop the license.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Still don't understand what an LSV gets you for the investment. 5 MPH is insignificant, cars are still faster and bigger so one error will get you killed. EGO? I'm a believer that all carts should be insured so that should come off the the table.

It's been stated several times in this thread now. With an LSV you are allowed to drive on Morse, Buena Vista, El Camino Real and any other roads where the speed limit is 35 or below. You are also allowed to cross 27/441 at the lights which would be a big deal for me.

I live in Silver Lake. I am less than a half mile from the CVS on Avenida Central. But, in order to get there in my golf cart I have to drive almost a mile up to the golf cart bridge and then another mile from the bridge to the CVS. We find ourselves in that CVS and the Target and other stores behind it quite often. I've thought about getting an LSV just to be able to cross 27/441 and save my self a lot of time but it's not worth it to me. I just put up with having to go two miles out of my way to reach a destination a quarter mile away.

In general, if you could use the streets mentioned the routes are much shorter than using the MMPs where you have togo up side streets cross over and use multiple tunnels to get to your destination.

I took my cart to Hemmingway yesterday and had to cross under Morse twice. I'm sure that I traveled several mile more then had I been in a car or an LSV

Now if you want to talk about the safety or wisdom of having a fast golf cart sharing the roads with cars, that's a different story and I'm glad that people are able to make about their minds about that.

Frankly, I don't think that any vehicle that's not capable of going the posted speed limit should be allowed on roads where speed limits are posted. It's very frustrating having to go 25 on a 35 MPH road because you're behind a vehicle that's not capable of reaching the speed limit.

[red tail]

there is more than speed with a LSV....they have all the safety features of a vehicle designed for the road.....4 wheel hydraulic brakes,windshield wipers,safety windshield etc etc etc

[golfing eagles]

there is more than speed with a LSV....they have all the safety features of a vehicle designed for the road.....4 wheel hydraulic brakes,windshield wipers,safety windshield etc etc etc

Mmmm---just like my SUV, except my SUV weighs 4600 pounds, the biggest safety feature of all

[Barefoot]

Frankly, I don't think that any vehicle that's not capable of going the posted speed limit should be allowed on roads where speed limits are posted. It's very frustrating having to go 25 on a 35 MPH road because you're behind a vehicle that's not capable of reaching the speed limit.
Including bicycles?

[golfing eagles]

George Carlin had it right: something like "Ever notice that when someone passes you they are an "@55hole", and when you pass someone driving slower they are a "moron"?

Not necessarily. The guy going 45 in the left lane to control traffic as HE sees fit, falls into the first category

[bagboy]

Not necessarily. The guy going 45 in the left lane to control traffic as HE sees fit, falls into the first category

I'm pretty sure that in Florida, a driver can now be pulled over and cited for travelling in the left lane at the posted speed limit, and impeding traffic if there is a line of cars behind him/her being held up.

[kcrazorbackfan]

I'm pretty sure that in Florida, a driver can now be pulled over and cited for travelling in the left lane at the posted speed limit, and impeding traffic if there is a line of cars behind him/her being held up.

Impeding traffic, disregarding a traffic control device, driving stupid (man, I could have written 2 ticket books a day for people driving stupid when I was on the road). :doh:

[JoMar]

You can ride on the roads that are under 35 mph.

I know that......still don't understand why they want to play in traffic that can get them killed......must be the mine is bigger than yours mentality.

[tomwed]

I know that......still don't understand why they want to play in traffic that can get them killed......must be the mine is bigger than yours mentality.
I don't think so. It's not any bigger than a golf cart. You may aggravate the other motorists on the 35 mph roads because you are only going 25 but it's not likely they will run you over. I drive a smart car that is the same size and I can get from one end of the town to the other in half the time as a golf cart because I don't deal with the tunnels and golf cart traffic. An LSV is something in between. It's too slow for me and too expensive.

[Emmakrock@yahoo.com]

I personally don't think golf carts should be on the road with cars..They are not road worthy like a car and slow up the traffic. There is not enough protection around them in the case of an accident..I think you are right. Let that expire and go back on the cart path...What's the hurry anyway? Leave earlier and slow down.

[aninjamom]

I personally would be grateful if people on 466 and 466A would remember that the speed limit there is 45 not 35. I also wonder; wouldn't it just be common sense, that if you really want to get somewhere faster, you just take the car?

[golfing eagles]

I personally would be grateful if people on 466 and 466A would remember that the speed limit there is 45 not 35. I also wonder; wouldn't it just be common sense, that if you really want to get somewhere faster, you just take the car?

But then again there's the driver, like the one earlier in this thread, who takes over the left lane at 35 mph because HE believes 35 is fast enough and feels ENTITLED TO IMPOSE HIS view on everyone else.

[Jima64]

I'm pretty sure that in Florida, a driver can now be pulled over and cited for travelling in the left lane at the posted speed limit, and impeding traffic if there is a line of cars behind him/her being held up.

New state law says the left lane is for passing. Cannot stay in it, even at legal speed limit. Have to move to the right.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

The legal difference between the speed of street legal and regular golf carts may be 5 MPH, but the effective difference is much greater. For example, if you are in the parking lot of the Savannah Center and wish to go to Arnold Palmer, you can get in your street legal and average nearly 25 MPH all the way there on a relatively straight shot. If you are in a standard golf cart, you have to negotiate three tunnels, work your way through Saddlebrook Rec, pass across traffic at three Village gates, and work your way around Laurel Manor and through the Village of Winifred. Once you arrive at Arnold Palmer, you may have yield right of way to a street legal before proceeding.

[John_W]

...For example, if you are in the parking lot of the Savannah Center and wish to go to Arnold Palmer, you can get in your street legal and average nearly 25 MPH all the way there on a relatively straight shot. If you are in a standard golf cart, you have to negotiate three tunnels, work your way through Saddlebrook Rec, pass across traffic at three Village gates, and work your way around Laurel Manor and through the Village of Winifred. Once you arrive at Arnold Palmer, you may have yield right of way to a street legal before proceeding.

This is just my personal feeling, but I would not drive down Buena Vista in a golf cart of any kind at 25 mph unless I was the only vehicle on Buena Vista. Two Villagers drove through the front wall of a building yesterday, one was Premier Urgent Care by the hospital and the other was the CVS on 466. A third Villager drove into a transformer on Stillwater. These were all single vehicle accidents involving a stationary immoveable object, the drivers all said they mistook the gas pedal for the brake.

[alzjr]

This is just my personal feeling, but I would not drive down Buena Vista in a golf cart of any kind at 25 mph unless I was the only vehicle on Buena Vista. Two Villagers drove through the front wall of a building yesterday, one was Premier Urgent Care by the hospital and the other was the CVS on 466. A third Villager drove into a transformer on Stillwater. These were all single vehicle accidents involving a stationary immoveable object, the drivers all said they mistook the gas pedal for the brake.

but you will drive in the diamond golf cart lane inches from cars going 30 mph and feel safe?

[golfing eagles]

but you will drive in the diamond golf cart lane inches from cars going 30 mph and feel safe?

Well, at least the good news there is that if you are driving 20, and the car driving 30 IN THE SAME DIRECTION, the effective impact speed is 10 mph., and less if you are hit at an angle. Better than crossing 441 and getting T boned at 45.

[Polar Bear]

but you will drive in the diamond golf cart lane inches from cars going 30 mph and feel safe?
Much more so than driving a LSV in the auto lanes.

[alzjr]

Much more so than driving a LSV in the auto lanes.

Oh, I misunderstood, the diamond lanes are for golf carts ONLY so no car would be ever be able to enter that lane because the white line would stop them. Not to mention the side streets that intersect or the parking lots and postal stations/pools that intersect or the country club driveways that intersect.

Let's see the auto lane is about 10 feet wide and the cart lane about 5 feet wide. When on our 35 MPH roads I have a lane all to myself that is 11 feet wide and the traffic is all going in the same direction with no driveways, no intersecting streets with stop signs, and no merge sections with traffic lights and no narrow bridges with carts coming at me.

Better rethink the how safe driving a golf cart in the diamond lane or MMP really is. I can't remember the last incident of an LSV and car accident on a 35 MPH road but car golf cart/car accidents happen all the time on regular streets and MMPs.

[Polar Bear]

Oh, I misunderstood, the diamond lanes are for golf carts ONLY so no car would be ever be able to enter that lane because the white line would stop them. Not to mention the side streets that intersect or the parking lots and postal stations/pools that intersect or the country club driveways that intersect.

Let's see the auto lane is about 10 feet wide and the cart lane about 5 feet wide. When on our 35 MPH roads I have a lane all to myself that is 11 feet wide and the traffic is all going in the same direction with no driveways, no intersecting streets with stop signs, and no merge sections with traffic lights and no narrow bridges with carts coming at me.

Better rethink the how safe driving a golf cart in the diamond lane or MMP really is. I can't remember the last incident of an LSV and car accident on a 35 MPH road but car golf cart/car accidents happen all the time on regular streets and MMPs.
Actually, I think you understood me perfectly. And...I stand by what I said.

When you quote your statistics, do you consider how many LSV's are actually on the main roads versus how many golf carts are on all the MMP's? But best of all...

"...When on our 35MPH roads I have a lane all to myself..."?!? Bwahahahah. That's a good one! So I guess the white line stops vehicles for you but not for those in the diamond lane...how convenient! :1rotfl:

[golfing eagles]

Actually, I think you understood me perfectly. And...I stand by what I said.

When you quote your statistics, do you consider how many LSV's are actually on the main roads versus how many golf carts are on all the MMP's? But best of all...

"...When on our 35MPH roads I have a lane all to myself..."?!? Bwahahahah. That's a good one! So I guess the white line stops vehicles for you but not for those in the diamond lane...how convenient! :1rotfl:

:agree: especially with the :1rotfl:

[alzjr]

And I stand by what I said, so there!

[JoMar]

And I stand by what I said, so there!

Probably because you have an LSV and because you made that decision, there is no other rational position you will accept..totally understandable.

[rubicon]

When I first arrived street legal was often discussed. When the government granted a $7500 credit for buying an electric cart the number street legal vehicles skyrocketed. When the street legal owners received their insurance bills and annual registration fees they finally made the math calculations and discovered it was going to eat up the $7500 credit So they petition O'Toole and she advanced a bill to remove the restriction of street legal certification.

I once thought about street legal until I witnessed a car hit an emerge cart at the intersection of 466 and Morse. That scene cured my desire.

When traveling the roads I notice too often that there are car drivers that seem to believe that the diamond lanes belong to them. In fact one driver boasted on TOTV that she uses the diamond lanes to make her turns . She actually believed by doing so that it would hold up cart drivers approaching the same intersection thus preventing a collision with a golf cart :22yikes:

Safe driving all

[Taltarzac725]

I would think that with how safe the Villages and Lady Lake are by in large that the cops would have the time to nab some of these speeding golf cart drivers. The problem might be though their jurisdiction over private property of the Villages like the modal paths. They could get them when crossing the public roads but they usually are not speeding then. Jurisdiction of the multi-modal recreation paths in TV [Archive] - Talk of The Villages (http://dev.talkofthevillages.com/archive/index.php/t-33195.html)

[Bay Kid]

When on my cart I prefer to avoid cars whenever possible. When I do have to share a road w/cars I always give them wide berth.

[tomwed]

When on my cart I prefer to avoid cars whenever possible. When I do have to share a road w/cars I always give them wide berth.
Is there such a thing as a narrow berth?

[tedquick]

Is there such a thing as a narrow berth?

Not sure why that's funny but it has me chuckling. :):)