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Guest
10-31-2008, 01:08 PM
I received the following message in an e-mail from a close friend who lives in Charlottesville, Virginia...

We were in the parking lot of the grocery store and saw a Lexus SUV pull in next to us with a sticker "I am an Independent. Vote Obama" The driver was getting out of his car as we were getting in so we greeted him and commented on his car sticker. He was an elderly, respectable looking gentleman.

He went on and on about his "disappointment" with the Republican party and that they need to reinvent themsevles or we need a new party. "I was a lifelong Republican and a retired Republican Senator and worked all my whole life for the party...", he said.

Whoa! We introduced ourselves and he graciously introduced himself as Lowell Weicker, a retired U.S. Senator from Connecticut. He went on and on about the substantial fall-off from Republican ranks as the result of the Bush-Cheney administration and now John McCain's substantial support of Bush programs. Listening to him was eye-opening.

When we got back home, we were even more surprised after we Googled Senator Weicker to find that he spent his entire career in elected office as a Republican. After some time in Connecticut politics, he was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives, where he served for one term. He then was elected to three terms as a Senator from Connecticut. He was defeated in a bid for his fourth term by Joe Lieberman but then was elected to one term as Governor of Connecticut. Later he was unsuccessful in seeking the Republican nomination for President in the 1980 elections.

In reading his bio, he sounded a lot like John McCain. His bio says he "was always regarded as somewhat of a maverick, and a liberal voice in an increasingly conservative Republican Party".

I found it interesting that a politician who blood lines have been so Republican for so long is now supporting Barack Obama. But from what my friend said, he's not becoming a Democrat. Rather, he seems to think that a "new" Republican party is needed--one less wedded to the far right social and religious neocon movement.

Guest
10-31-2008, 02:31 PM
Well, there's a bit more to this story than what is in the letter. Weicker has always been on the far left side of the Republican Party. In fact when he lost his Senate seat it was William F. Buckley who endorsed his opponent, Joe Lieberman, for the seat. Later, when Weicker was governor, it was not as a Republican but as an independent. So, he's been out of the party fold for quite some time.

However, the flip side of this story is that Joe Lieberman who was his party's nominee for VP and who beat Weicker, now endorses John McCain. That, to me, is a bigger story about how the Democratic Party, which used to be concerned about national security has become what it is today.

Guest
10-31-2008, 11:00 PM
NJBlue You are right. Lowell Weiker is and always has been a RINO. I realize you have to be liberal to get elected in an eastern state. I don't think the Republican party needs to go any further to the left. If JFK was alive today he would be a Republican. He wouldn't even recognize the Democrat party.

Guest
10-31-2008, 11:52 PM
NJBlue You are right. Lowell Weiker is and always has been a RINO. I realize you have to be liberal to get elected in an eastern state. I don't think the Republican party needs to go any further to the left. If JFK was alive today he would be a Republican. He wouldn't even recognize the Democrat party.

Keep thinking that...I went to my first demcratic commitee meeting with my father at the age of 10. JFK was and will always be my hero. The Democratic party has a big tent.

Guest
11-01-2008, 07:47 AM
Keep thinking that...I went to my first demcratic commitee meeting with my father at the age of 10. JFK was and will always be my hero. The Democratic party has a big tent.



Well, I was EXTREMELY active in the Democratic party for many years up north. In the mid 70's the party sold out lock, stock and barrel to Rev Jackson and the Rainbow Coalition...they began the drum beat of how bad America is and how they will fix it...they are owned by special interest groups.

Now this is not a glowing testimony to the Republican party either, but I just wanted to share at least my story and others with the Democratic party. They are not EVEN CLOSE to the Democratic party of JFK !!!!

Guest
11-03-2008, 12:35 PM
The Democratic party is certainly more liberal than the Republican party, but I personally think that is because the Republican party has become so much more conservative in the past few years. As an example, I read a Gallup poll that said the majority of Republicans in the United States do not believe the theory of evolution is true and do not believe that humans evolved over millions of years from less advanced forms of life. That just shocks me - it goes against every scientific principle we've ever been taught. I guess, in addition to being conservative, republicanism is also anti-intellectual.

Guest
11-03-2008, 12:49 PM
I received the following message in an e-mail from a close friend who lives in Charlottesville, Virginia...

We were in the parking lot of the grocery store and saw a Lexus SUV pull in next to us with a sticker "I am an Independent. Vote Obama" The driver was getting out of his car as we were getting in so we greeted him and commented on his car sticker. He was an elderly, respectable looking gentleman.

He went on and on about his "disappointment" with the Republican party and that they need to reinvent themsevles or we need a new party. "I was a lifelong Republican and a retired Republican Senator and worked all my whole life for the party...", he said.

Whoa! We introduced ourselves and he graciously introduced himself as Lowell Weicker, a retired U.S. Senator from Connecticut. He went on and on about the substantial fall-off from Republican ranks as the result of the Bush-Cheney administration and now John McCain's substantial support of Bush programs. Listening to him was eye-opening.

When we got back home, we were even more surprised after we Googled Senator Weicker to find that he spent his entire career in elected office as a Republican. After some time in Connecticut politics, he was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives, where he served for one term. He then was elected to three terms as a Senator from Connecticut. He was defeated in a bid for his fourth term by Joe Lieberman but then was elected to one term as Governor of Connecticut. Later he was unsuccessful in seeking the Republican nomination for President in the 1980 elections.

In reading his bio, he sounded a lot like John McCain. His bio says he "was always regarded as somewhat of a maverick, and a liberal voice in an increasingly conservative Republican Party".

I found it interesting that a politician who blood lines have been so Republican for so long is now supporting Barack Obama. But from what my friend said, he's not becoming a Democrat. Rather, he seems to think that a "new" Republican party is needed--one less wedded to the far right social and religious neocon movement.


Good info,, funny thing will be the responses to this deal. Goes to show you