Too Many Water Main Failures

[maybe]

Seems to me there are far too many water main failures in The Villages. These are not 100 or 150 year old lines in cities. Has anyone heard why so many here? Sinkhole related? It looks like evidence that the infrastructure here was built on the cheap, like many things in the houses. What will be happening in 20 years?

[graciegirl]

Seems to me there are far too many water main failures in The Villages. These are not 100 or 150 year old lines in cities. Has anyone heard why so many here? Sinkhole related? It looks like evidence that the infrastructure here was built on the cheap, like many things in the houses. What will be happening in 20 years?



I disagree. I can't think of any thing in either of our homes that was "built on the cheap".


We are on a peninsula. We have a lot of sand here and the possibility of sinkholes and shifting substrata.

Here is a link to frequent water main breaks in Orlando, Cape Coral and Sarasota.



.frequent water main breaks in florida - Bing (http://www.bing.com/search?q=frequent+water+main+breaks+in+florida&qs=n&form=QBLH&pq=frequent+water+main+breaks+in+florida&sc=0-18&sp=-1&sk=&cvid=A248E97516A143DB8D45653E76FC432B)

[Bonny]

I disagree. I can't think of any thing in either of our homes that was "built on the cheap".


We are on a peninsula. We have a lot of sand here and the possibility of sinkholes and shifting substrata.

Here is a link to frequent water main breaks in Orlando, Cape Coral and Sarasota.



.frequent water main breaks in florida - Bing (http://www.bing.com/search?q=frequent+water+main+breaks+in+florida&qs=n&form=QBLH&pq=frequent+water+main+breaks+in+florida&sc=0-18&sp=-1&sk=&cvid=A248E97516A143DB8D45653E76FC432B)
I agree. Both of our homes here were built beautifully. Nothing cheap about either one. :)

[fred53]

There are lots of folks who see a few water line failures/leaks per week/month as a lot, but if you take into account the number of people here...>100k...and like gg mentions the soil structure then you realize(if you're even slightly educated in civil engineering)that they did a great job with not only the infrastructure, but the homes as well.

Perhaps you came from a house where someone else took care of all the maintenance. I owned a very well built house in Maine for over 25years...there were more problems there than any I can foresee here...only time will tell.

[rubicon]

So all the rest of us are just imagining all of this. I had sand blown back in my spa and toliets three times. I have had water the color of coffee twice.
I suppose I could have simply said to myself TV wasn't built on the cheap I must be imagining all of this.

No what I did say to the water department was mistakes happen, systems fail and you respond quickly.... can I buy you a pizza.

[graciegirl]

So all the rest of us are just imagining all of this. I had sand blown back in my spa and toliets three times. I have had water the color of coffee twice.
I suppose I could have simply said to myself TV wasn't built on the cheap I must be imagining all of this.

No what I did say to the water department was mistakes happen, systems fail and you respond quickly.... can I buy you a pizza.



Imagining what Rubicon? Things built on the cheap? Water main breaks?


We had pinhole leaks in our copper water pipes in our nice home in Cincinnati.


Was that a pressure problem? An acid water problem? Or some said that it was due to electrical lines overhead. I don't know, may never know.


I have nothing to make me think anything is substandard here. Or substandard there, but knickers getting into a hitch is very common here. Some have good reasons and others have no good reason. Conspiracy theories abound among folks everywhere.

[Sable99]

I think part of it is you hear about them more in The Villages through the other online newspaper, TOTV, etc. I live just outside a town the quarter of the size of TV and it may be on the news (radio) that a street is closed but rarely in the newspaper. We just don't knoe about it unless we are going down that street.

[yabbadu]

Seems to me there are far too many water main failures in The Villages. These are not 100 or 150 year old lines in cities. Has anyone heard why so many here? Sinkhole related? It looks like evidence that the infrastructure here was built on the cheap, like many things in the houses. What will be happening in 20 years?

Do you have any facts or is this just conjecture? Every city I ever lived in always had some issue!

[RickeyD]

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[manaboutown]

Imagining what Rubicon? Things built on the cheap? Water main breaks?


We had pinhole leaks in our copper water pipes in our nice home in Cincinnati.

Was that a pressure problem? An acid water problem? Or some said that it was due to electrical lines overhead. I don't know, may never know.

GG, the holes in the copper pipe could have been caused by electrolysis or they may have been due to galvanic corrosion if the copper pipe was connected to a galvanized fitting(s).

[Rango]

At least when the mains break, the water doesn't freeze and cause crashes.

[RickeyD]

Water Main Break Clock (http://www.watermainbreakclock.com/)

:eclipsee_gold_cup:

[ajbrown]

Water Main Break Clock (http://www.watermainbreakclock.com/)

:eclipsee_gold_cup:

Thanks for posting. How did we get by without the Internet :)

[Allegiance]

What's bing, is that the antiquated search engine that people used very briefly when they were giving away money?

[maybe]

I disagree. I can't think of any thing in either of our homes that was "built on the cheap".


We are on a peninsula. We have a lot of sand here and the possibility of sinkholes and shifting substrata.

Here is a link to frequent water main breaks in Orlando, Cape Coral and Sarasota.



.frequent water main breaks in florida - Bing (http://www.bing.com/search?q=frequent+water+main+breaks+in+florida&qs=n&form=QBLH&pq=frequent+water+main+breaks+in+florida&sc=0-18&sp=-1&sk=&cvid=A248E97516A143DB8D45653E76FC432B)


The problem is that I do not recall in the news stories on water line breaks, any explanation as to why they broke. I asked if anyone knows. Doesn't it seem to you that underground water lines should be expected to go A LOT more than 5 or 10 years without a leak. Maybe it is normal, and that is why I said "it seems to me", but it does not seem right to me.

As to cheap items in homes, I think the water cut-off valves at sinks and toilets in many homes qualifies. Roof ridge vent covers in some homes as well. Double-hung windows. Clothes racks in closets with inadequate support. General lack of storage space. But I am only mentioning such things because you seemed to doubt such things existed here. I do not regret buying my house, and I accept it for what it is, good and bad, but improving it as things develope. I posted here only to find out about water main leaks, not complain about house construction.

[rubicon]

Water Main Break Clock (http://www.watermainbreakclock.com/)

:eclipsee_gold_cup:

Exactly that's what my post referenced without placing blame, it just happens and I did complimented the Water Dept for their quick response

I simply see no need for residents to circle the wagons to protect The Village's reputation they have a multi-million dollar expense budget to do that for themselves

[outlaw]

Exactly that's what my post referenced without placing blame, it just happens and I did complimented the Water Dept for their quick response

I simply see no need for residents to circle the wagons to protect The Village's reputation they have a multi-million dollar expense budget to do that for themselves

What am I missing? I think TV has always used PVC. So the "clock" basically is an ad for PVC versus iron pipes. So why all the water main leaks/breaks? It does seem to be frequent in TV.

[RickeyD]

The problem is that I do not recall in the news stories on water line breaks, any explanation as to why they broke. I asked if anyone knows. Doesn't it seem to you that underground water lines should be expected to go A LOT more than 5 or 10 years without a leak. Maybe it is normal, and that is why I said "it seems to me", but it does not seem right to me.



As to cheap items in homes, I think the water cut-off valves at sinks and toilets in many homes qualifies. Roof ridge vent covers in some homes as well. Double-hung windows. Clothes racks in closets with inadequate support. General lack of storage space. But I am only mentioning such things because you seemed to doubt such things existed here. I do not regret buying my house, and I accept it for what it is, good and bad, but improving it as things develope. I posted here only to find out about water main leaks, not complain about house construction.


If you want to see cheap construction simply tour Stonecrest. Wood construction made to look like concrete and not done well. From 20' looks ok, from 2' not so much.

[EastCoastDawg]

Seems to me there are far too many water main failures in The Villages...It looks like evidence that the infrastructure here was built on the cheap, like many things in the houses.?


You made a basic TOTV error there with that second generalization.

Just stick to your main point, or the "defend The Villages at all costs" rottweilers will be at your throat in seconds.

[RickeyD]

You made a basic TOTV error there with that second generalization.



Just stick to your main point, or the "defend The Villages at all costs" rottweilers will be at your throat in seconds.


First amendment speech doesn't come without a cost.

[graciegirl]

The problem is that I do not recall in the news stories on water line breaks, any explanation as to why they broke. I asked if anyone knows. Doesn't it seem to you that underground water lines should be expected to go A LOT more than 5 or 10 years without a leak. Maybe it is normal, and that is why I said "it seems to me", but it does not seem right to me.

As to cheap items in homes, I think the water cut-off valves at sinks and toilets in many homes qualifies. Roof ridge vent covers in some homes as well. Double-hung windows. Clothes racks in closets with inadequate support. General lack of storage space. But I am only mentioning such things because you seemed to doubt such things existed here. I do not regret buying my house, and I accept it for what it is, good and bad, but improving it as things develope. I posted here only to find out about water main leaks, not complain about house construction.



The homes here are built to the local codes which may differ from codes elsewhere. I also think that the different types of homes have different things offered as standard. I don't recall if our first home here had Kohler bath fixtures and Kichler light fixtures, but this one does and we chose our second home in part for the storage. This second home has wide base molding and ten foot ceilings and the first one did not. I think that the variety of choices and prices are quite good.


As to the reason why water main's break, MY guess is sinkholes which cause wide spread panic. They are common to central Florida but they scare the hell out of people...including me. You buys your ticket, you takes your chances. We also live in Florida, the lightning capital of the U.S. The Florida advertising doesn't talk much about that either.

[capecoralbill]

I've been thinking my water pressure has been lower than usual for the last almost two months, anybody else experiencing this?

[Bogie Shooter]

What is the usual pressure? What is it now?

[Arctic Fox]

Seems to me there are far too many water main failures in The Villages.

A high water pressure could cause more failures. Is the water pressure in TV higher than where you came from?

[RickeyD]

I've been thinking my water pressure has been lower than usual for the last almost two months, anybody else experiencing this?


More people using more water equals less pressure.