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Guest
02-04-2016, 10:00 AM
If you have not seen it yet then take a few minutes and watch the current release.

It, like the others is not a custom made or content tampered video.

It clearly show cases the non hesitant manor, like the other videos to date, in which the use of slaughtered fetus are discussed like so much retail meat availability and how to pay for or account for it.

Video Shows Planned Parenthood Executive Sought to Hide Profits from Baby-Parts Sales - Breitbart (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/03/video-shows-planned-parenthood-accounting-tricks-to-hide-profits-from-baby-parts-sales/)

Forget the party line and use your GOD given common sense to conclude PP is not the virtuous save the women organization they would have you believe.

There must be a threshhold of unacceptability even for the died in the wool no matter what radical left supporters.....somewhere.

Guest
02-04-2016, 12:09 PM
But, the point is that liberals don't care about people, especially unwanted babies. If they are not wanted, then they are not real people. They will embrace wrong. They will embrace unethical standards. They will embrace immorality. And they will embrace selling of body parts because conservatives are against it. That is the only reason. They make believe that these body parts are going to prolong their miserable lives. They are afraid to die because they do not believe in an afterlife. You can have a video showing an abortion and then the butchering of the baby and they will just deny it or embrace it. Shoot, you could butcher the parts, and grill them on the BBQ and they would not flinch in their fanatic view and support.

Guest
02-04-2016, 12:19 PM
LOL - Breitbart?????????

Really ?????????

Reich-Wing Breitbart is as accurate as Bristol Palin at an Abstinence-Only convention.

Give it up - this is right up there with the Iraq has WMD's pile if bs

Guest
02-04-2016, 12:45 PM
LOL - Breitbart?????????

Really ?????????

Reich-Wing Breitbart is as accurate as Bristol Palin at an Abstinence-Only convention.

Give it up - this is right up there with the Iraq has WMD's pile if bs

You really shouldn't post your ignorance on a public forum. It just proves that you listen to liberal talking points and have no intelligence whatsoever.

Guest
02-04-2016, 12:54 PM
To be fair or at least balanced we need a Media Matters source post for each Breitbart.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/08/31/a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-deceptively-edited/205264

Guest
02-04-2016, 01:03 PM
I watched it and do not understand how anyone with an intact central nervous system and their FSM given ability to think clearly would see any criminal activity in that edited tape. If this is the worst that the now indicted CMP could come up with...
These "buyers" use inflammatory terms and the PP agent goes Yes or Hmm. She explains the billing process at 25 dollars per tissue sample with a budget of a whopping couple thousand dollars for the time period. PP explains that they need to cover their costs for this supply including overhead which is exactly what the law allows. Now other than your not liking the ability of woman who chose to have a termination done making a donation of the fetal tissue to science rather than to useless disposal and that the organization which incurs the extra cost of obtaining and processing that tissue getting paid for those costs by the "buyer" ... Gotta love Texas governor Abbott being cut into the video explaining how he'd love to get the PP people under oath as there are only two possible outcomes, he'd get them for illegal practices or perjury. Uh, stupid Governor, you forgot the third possibility, they would testify truthfully and a grand jury would in fact find that they did nothing wrong, several state investigations would find they did nothing wrong, and the only people facing a criminal trial are the lovely miscreants seen in this video as the buyers.

Guest
02-04-2016, 01:14 PM
I watched it and do not understand how anyone with an intact central nervous system and their FSM given ability to think clearly would see any criminal activity in that edited tape. If this is the worst that the now indicted CMP could come up with...
These "buyers" use inflammatory terms and the PP agent goes Yes or Hmm. She explains the billing process at 25 dollars per tissue sample with a budget of a whopping couple thousand dollars for the time period. PP explains that they need to cover their costs for this supply including overhead which is exactly what the law allows. Now other than your not liking the ability of woman who chose to have a termination done making a donation of the fetal tissue to science rather than to useless disposal and that the organization which incurs the extra cost of obtaining and processing that tissue getting paid for those costs by the "buyer" ... Gotta love Texas governor Abbott being cut into the video explaining how he'd love to get the PP people under oath as there are only two possible outcomes, he'd get them for illegal practices or perjury. Uh, stupid Governor, you forgot the third possibility, they would testify truthfully and a grand jury would in fact find that they did nothing wrong, several state investigations would find they did nothing wrong, and the only people facing a criminal trial are the lovely miscreants seen in this video as the buyers.

Your minority report is duly noted!

Guest
02-04-2016, 01:39 PM
Your minority report is duly noted!

:agree:

Guest
02-04-2016, 02:07 PM
You really shouldn't post your ignorance on a public forum. It just proves that you listen to liberal talking points and have no intelligence whatsoever.






Liberal talking points?

If by that you mean I do not listen to Breitbart- you are correct

Guest
02-04-2016, 02:33 PM
It is a waste of time to attempt any rational discussion with progressives because they invent rights, and they invent enemies, and they invent conspiracies. They are obliged to do so because they fear a rational discussion on many subjects such as transgender, sexual preference and abortion

Planned Parenthood performs at least 1/3 of all abortions in this nation. A rational person would quickly conclude if that many women are getting abortions then something is wrong?

Many psychiatrist are issuing warnings to parents to withhold gender re-assignment for their kids because these doctors know that the issue is being over stated. How many tom boys turned out to be beautiful well adjusted women. How many boys who played with dolls have become well adjusted men

Progressives invent rights I mean they just pop out of their heads. Pay closer attention to what progressive claim are rights and then instead of doing a fact check go read the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
02-04-2016, 02:57 PM
It is a waste of time to attempt any rational discussion with progressives because they invent rights, and they invent enemies, and they invent conspiracies. They are obliged to do so because they fear a rational discussion on many subjects such as transgender, sexual preference and abortion

Planned Parenthood performs at least 1/3 of all abortions in this nation. A rational person would quickly conclude if that many women are getting abortions then something is wrong?

Many psychiatrist are issuing warnings to parents to withhold gender re-assignment for their kids because these doctors know that the issue is being over stated. How many tom boys turned out to be beautiful well adjusted women. How many boys who played with dolls have become well adjusted men

Progressives invent rights I mean they just pop out of their heads. Pay closer attention to what progressive claim are rights and then instead of doing a fact check go read the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights

Personal Best Regards:

Totally agree.

And just to add, they are doing their best genocide of blacks and still get them to vote for their radical ideology. Go figure.

I know it has been said many times on here, but the founder of PP purposely installed PP in the inner cities intending to decrease the black population.
PP also had more black abortions last year than were born.

So, I guess liberals are racists if they back PP.

Guest
02-04-2016, 08:57 PM
Totally agree.

PP also had more black abortions last year than were born.

So, I guess liberals are racists if they back PP.

Fact Check that you lie.

2012 last year with full CDC data
634126 black births
123116 black abortions

You're a liar. But I'm sure you got your data from reliable right wing news sources, like Breitbart or other liars. Now post your proof or get out of your mother's basement.

Guest
02-05-2016, 04:14 AM
Fact Check that you lie.

2012 last year with full CDC data
634126 black births
123116 black abortions

You're a liar. But I'm sure you got your data from reliable right wing news sources, like Breitbart or other liars. Now post your proof or get out of your mother's basement.

You do realize that we are in year 2016, right?

Guest
02-05-2016, 04:21 AM
Sanger, the founder of the nation’s largest abortion provider, Planned Parenthood, was part of the eugenics movement back in the 1930s. Her goal was to use abortion to cull what she considered inferior races from the human gene pool. According to Sanger, “Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated.” She opened her first abortion clinics in inner cities, and it’s no accident that even today, “79 percent of Planned Parenthood’s abortion facilities are located in black or minority neighborhoods.”

Washington Times

Guest
02-05-2016, 04:23 AM
138,539 black babies, nearly one baby in three, were killed in the womb in 2010. According to the CDC, between 2007 and 2010, innocent black babies were victimized in nearly 36 percent of the abortion deaths in the United States, though blacks represent only 12.8 percent of the population. Some say the abortion capital of America is New York City. According to LifeSiteNews, the city’s Department of Health reported that in 2012, more black babies were aborted (31,328) than born (24,758). That’s 55.9 percent of black babies killed before birth. Blacks represented 42.4 percent of all abortions.

Washington Times

Guest
02-05-2016, 04:33 AM
According to the CDC, each year 616,074 African Americans are born.
458,500 babies will have died from abortion.
284,877 blacks will have died that same year through anything from natural causes to heart disease.
There are 743,377 Africans Americans dying yearly. This number is 127,303 more than those that are born.
From 1973 to 2004, nearly 30% of the black population were erased through abortion. Out of the average 4,400 babies dying daily that are reported abortions, an estimated 1,300 are African American. They account for 32% of women having abortions yearly, yet make up only 13% of the American population. African American women are 3 times as likely to have an abortion than other women.

Guest
02-05-2016, 04:35 AM
I wonder what the percentage of those involved in abortion are/were LIBERALs. Wouldn't that mean that there are fewer potential liberals in the world?

Guest
02-05-2016, 05:45 AM
Every bad situation has it's positive.

Guest
02-05-2016, 08:32 AM
But, the point is that liberals don't care about people, especially unwanted babies. If they are not wanted, then they are not real people. They will embrace wrong. They will embrace unethical standards. They will embrace immorality. And they will embrace selling of body parts because conservatives are against it. That is the only reason. They make believe that these body parts are going to prolong their miserable lives. They are afraid to die because they do not believe in an afterlife. You can have a video showing an abortion and then the butchering of the baby and they will just deny it or embrace it. Shoot, you could butcher the parts, and grill them on the BBQ and they would not flinch in their fanatic view and support.

Who sent all those military and civilians to their death in Iraq over nothing. It was with the Bush administration's fabricated information, or don't those lives mean anything to you?

Guest
02-05-2016, 09:00 AM
Who sent all those military and civilians to their death in Iraq over nothing. It was with the Bush administration's fabricated information, or don't those lives mean anything to you?

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
It is just so funny when the only answer a person has is based on Bush and Iraq.........no matter what the discussion or subject.
Some just really need to turn the page, catch up, wake up or just partake in reality.

The subject is PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND THEIR BABY PARTS BUTCHER SHOP!

Guest
02-05-2016, 09:08 AM
This entire thread is the ranting of old, angry white MEN who think that a woman has no choice over deciding whether or not to carry a baby to birth.

Guest
02-05-2016, 09:24 AM
This entire thread is the ranting of old, angry white MEN who think that a woman has no choice over deciding whether or not to carry a baby to birth.

MAybe when you catch up with the subject of the thread you might be able to make a value adding contribution instead of sexist, discriminating, discourteous, stupid baiting.

Guest
02-05-2016, 09:24 AM
there are millions of women, like me, who believe a human being's right to life is more important than the mother's right to choose for her own convenience.

Guest
02-05-2016, 09:29 AM
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
It is just so funny when the only answer a person has is based on Bush and Iraq.........no matter what the discussion or subject.
Some just really need to turn the page, catch up, wake up or just partake in reality.

The subject is PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND THEIR BABY PARTS BUTCHER SHOP!
It's like when Obama gets blamed for everything. Oh, for those carefree Clinton years.

Guest
02-05-2016, 09:51 AM
there are millions of women, like me, who believe a human being's right to life is more important than the mother's right to choose for her own convenience.

You are an old man. Get a life!

Guest
02-05-2016, 09:53 AM
MAybe when you catch up with the subject of the thread you might be able to make a value adding contribution instead of sexist, discriminating, discourteous, stupid baiting.

Maybe you can stop trolling and crawl back under your rock.

Guest
02-05-2016, 10:50 AM
Maybe you can stop trolling and crawl back under your rock.

Here maybe this will help calibrate you so you know what the :censored: you are talking about in the future:

Trolling
The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly ****ing people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue. Trolling does not mean just making rude remarks: Shouting swear words at someone doesn't count as trolling; it's just flaming, and isn't funny. Spam isn't trolling either; it ****es people off, but it's lame.

The most essential part of trolling is convincing your victim that either a) truly believe in what you are saying, no matter how outrageous, or b) give your victim malicious instructions, under the guise of help.
Trolling requires decieving; any trolling that doesn't involve decieving someone isn't trolling at all; it's just stupid. As such, your victim must not know that you are trolling; if he does, you are an unsuccesful troll.

Guest
02-05-2016, 11:00 AM
You do realize that we are in year 2016, right?

Why is that that right wingers cannot read with comprehension. Perhaps because of the lack of incite and accurate analysis available to them in their media.

Statement 1
PP also had more black abortions last year than were born.

So, I guess liberals are racists if they back PP.

Note that this conservative poster claimed that PP performed more abortions on black women than there were black births "last year" which would be 2015

Statement 2
2012 last year with full CDC data
634126 black births
123116 black abortions

Although this statement does not fully show the full dishonesty of statement one because the data includes ALL abortions in 2012, not just those at PP. Using the generally accepted figure that 1/3 of terminations are done at PP, then the number of black women having a termination at PP would be about 41,000 in 2012. And as there were 634126 births, then PP aborted 1/16 th of the number of black births. Only in right wing world is 0.0625 greater than 1.

Now try to read this very closely... The last year where any reliable data is available is 2012, that data was published in 2015. So it is the LATEST AVAILABLE. No one can give you the 2013, 2014 or 2015 data from the CDC yet. So statement 1's claim about "last year" is made up as it does not exist. Giving him the benefit of the doubt that he meant "reported last year" then the 2012 data is the most recent available. And your snide and poorly thought out comment about this is 2016 is dismissed.

Guest
02-05-2016, 11:07 AM
Why is that that right wingers cannot read with comprehension. Perhaps because of the lack of incite and accurate analysis available to them in their media.

Statement 1


Note that this conservative poster claimed that PP performed more abortions on black women than there were black births "last year" which would be 2015

Statement 2

Although this statement does not fully show the full dishonesty of statement one because the data includes ALL abortions in 2012, not just those at PP. Using the generally accepted figure that 1/3 of terminations are done at PP, then the number of black women having a termination at PP would be about 41,000 in 2012. And as there were 634126 births, then PP aborted 1/16 th of the number of black births. Only in right wing world is 0.0625 greater than 1.

Now try to read this very closely... The last year where any reliable data is available is 2012, that data was published in 2015. So it is the LATEST AVAILABLE. No one can give you the 2013, 2014 or 2015 data from the CDC yet. So statement 1's claim about "last year" is made up as it does not exist. Giving him the benefit of the doubt that he meant "reported last year" then the 2012 data is the most recent available. And your snide and poorly thought out comment about this is 2016 is dismissed.

How about the data that was given this morning? Do you haven an answer for that poster also? I am glad that you at least have enough motivation to do a slight bit of research, even if it IS dated and skewed in your favor. But, those are some interesting facts that were given, even though it does not quite coincide with your slant on baby murder or genocide of blacks.

Guest
02-05-2016, 11:12 AM
Who sent all those military and civilians to their death in Iraq over nothing. It was with the Bush administration's fabricated information, or don't those lives mean anything to you?

Over nothing? Interesting how you consider genocide to be nothing. Hundreds of thousands have been killed by the Sadaam regime. That's probably one good reason to do away with him and his family. By the way, Sadaam violated the NO FLY zone. That is another reason to attack. Hillary stated that she would initiate a No Fly zone in Syria. Do you think that she would enforce it?

This has nothing to do with PP. So, stick with the subject or go away...TROLL.

Guest
02-05-2016, 11:12 AM
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
It is just so funny when the only answer a person has is based on Bush and Iraq.........no matter what the discussion or subject.
Some just really need to turn the page, catch up, wake up or just partake in reality.

The subject is PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND THEIR BABY PARTS BUTCHER SHOP!

:agree:

Guest
02-05-2016, 11:15 AM
[Martin Luther King, Jr.] once said, “The Negro cannot win as long as he is willing to sacrifice the lives of his children for comfort and safety.” How can the “Dream” survive if we murder the children? Every aborted baby is like a slave in the womb of his or her mother. The mother decides his or her fate

Guest
02-05-2016, 11:21 AM
98% of abortions are due to convenience

0.3% of abortions are due to rape/incest

1.7% of abortions are due to health of mother or baby

Birth control by abortion seems to be very convenient. So, 98% of those babies were murdered because females have the right to murder due to convenience. And PP is funded by the taxpayer, which means we are complicit in murder. Gov sponsored murder of the innocent.

Guest
02-05-2016, 11:32 AM
[Martin Luther King, Jr.] once said, “The Negro cannot win as long as he is willing to sacrifice the lives of his children for comfort and safety.” How can the “Dream” survive if we murder the children? Every aborted baby is like a slave in the womb of his or her mother. The mother decides his or her fate
Working "slave" in your MLK post is well done, isn't it?

Guest
02-05-2016, 11:46 AM
98% of abortions are due to convenience

0.3% of abortions are due to rape/incest

1.7% of abortions are due to health of mother or baby

Birth control by abortion seems to be very convenient. So, 98% of those babies were murdered because females have the right to murder due to convenience. And PP is funded by the taxpayer, which means we are complicit in murder. Gov sponsored murder of the innocent.

Now, again, if we could only get the attention of the supporters and the radicals who insist on making the issue about the 2% above.

As has been said in many previous posts.....the issue is about the 98% getting abortions for convenienc or using it for birth control or rejecting a sex they did not want.....this is the market that PP works....for profit....for butchering live fetus for parts AND SELLING......throwing the rest of the unwanted once living fetus in the garbage.

All the whille waving the rape and incest flag and making that what PP is all about.

It is a federally funded slaughter house of born and unborn children.

WAKE up and address the facts and the issue. We don't need to be constantly reminded about the 2%. YOU need to be constantly reminded about the immoral and troubelsome 98%.

Guest
02-05-2016, 02:25 PM
Now, again, if we could only get the attention of the supporters and the radicals who insist on making the issue about the 2% above.

As has been said in many previous posts.....the issue is about the 98% getting abortions for convenienc or using it for birth control or rejecting a sex they did not want.....this is the market that PP works....for profit....for butchering live fetus for parts AND SELLING......throwing the rest of the unwanted once living fetus in the garbage.

All the whille waving the rape and incest flag and making that what PP is all about.

It is a federally funded slaughter house of born and unborn children.

WAKE up and address the facts and the issue. We don't need to be constantly reminded about the 2%. YOU need to be constantly reminded about the immoral and troubelsome 98%.

:thumbup:

Guest
02-05-2016, 02:32 PM
Working "slave" in your MLK post is well done, isn't it?

Not my words. I believe this was a quote from King's niece and posted on a Congressional Record.

Guest
02-06-2016, 08:20 AM
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
It is just so funny when the only answer a person has is based on Bush and Iraq.........no matter what the discussion or subject.
Some just really need to turn the page, catch up, wake up or just partake in reality.

The subject is PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND THEIR BABY PARTS BUTCHER SHOP!

The posts are about taking life, or don't you feel sending people to their death by making up wmd stories is essential?

Guest
02-06-2016, 08:48 AM
The truth is that the abortion issue will never be settled on this forum nor will anyone change their view based on this forum.

Abortions ARE legal in the USA and will stay legal.

It is not a deciding factor for voters. Many more important issues than abortion are at stake.

Guest
02-06-2016, 09:33 AM
[Martin Luther King, Jr.] once said, “The Negro cannot win as long as he is willing to sacrifice the lives of his children for comfort and safety.” How can the “Dream” survive if we murder the children? Every aborted baby is like a slave in the womb of his or her mother. The mother decides his or her fate

You know that King never said what you have put in quotes. The meme comes from his anti-choice niece who herself had more than one abortion, utilized her right to choice when it was needed by her. The actual quote comes from a MLK speech in 1958, a full 15 years before Roe v Wade.
He was speaking about the Negro passively accepting segregation and injustice. The correct words he spoke

https://www.deltacollege.edu/emp/pwall/documents/ThreeWaysofMeetingOppression.pdf

"Acquiescence is interpreted as proof of the Negro's inferiority. The Negro cannot win the respect of the white people of the South or the peoples of the world if he is willing to sell the future of his children for his personal and immediate comfort and safety"

Totally different meaning. He was speaking to encourage blacks to leave their comfort zone and fight against racism and not doom the next generation to the same bigotry and brutality as his generation had endured. His niece twisted it and misquoted, but now you know the truth.

Guest
02-06-2016, 09:47 AM
98% of abortions are due to convenience

0.3% of abortions are due to rape/incest

1.7% of abortions are due to health of mother or baby

Birth control by abortion seems to be very convenient. So, 98% of those babies were murdered because females have the right to murder due to convenience. And PP is funded by the taxpayer, which means we are complicit in murder. Gov sponsored murder of the innocent.

there is absolutely nothing very convenient about having an abortion. Yes most are not done because of rape or incest but none are done for convenience. Every one of those woman would have preferred not to have gotten pregnant at that time with that fetus. There are studies looking at the reported factors in a woman choosing to terminate, and "very convenient" has never been one. There are myriad social, economic, and relationship issues. The rape and incest concern is only mentioned because almost every GOP candidate would go so far as to even prohibit those terminations. Several GOP controlled states have already passed anti-abortion laws which do not include an exception for rape nor incest. The mention of those two is to show how radical and out of touch the GOP legislators and executives have become as only the most right wing candidates can emerge from a primary fight. Support an exception for rape and incest and loose your primary. Even the "moderate" Rubio is against any termination for any reason.

Guest
02-06-2016, 12:53 PM
there is absolutely nothing very convenient about having an abortion. AND YET IT IS SO EASY AND CONVENIENT. Yes most are not done because of rape or incest but none are done for convenience. JUST CONTRADICTED YOURSELF. IF TRUE THEN THEY WOULD HAVE THE BABY AND RAISE IT Every one of those woman would have preferred not to have gotten pregnant at that time with that fetus. WITH THE BABY There are studies looking at the reported factors in a woman choosing to terminate, and "very convenient" has never been one.OH? AND YOU HAVE A LINK TO SUCH STUDY??? There are myriad social, economic, and relationship issues. The rape and incest concern is only mentioned because almost every GOP candidate would go so far as to even prohibit those terminations. Several GOP controlled states have already passed anti-abortion laws which do not include an exception for rape nor incest. The mention of those two is to show how radical and out of touch the GOP legislators and executives have become as only the most right wing candidates can emerge from a primary fight. Support an exception for rape and incest and loose your primary. Even the "moderate" Rubio is against any termination for any reason.

Such a desperate attempt to justified baby murder. You can't even use the word "baby" in your pitiful attempt to justify it. You liberals use less than 1% of the cause as a basis to justify the totality of the demonic sacrifice. Be honest and call it what it truly is and you will have even less support than you did before. The only reason it is legal is because a court of a handful of idiots made it so. There would be no abortion if it was based on the majority. You know, the basis of "All the People" in our country? So, your pathetic argument is torn apart. Murder is the willful taking of another's life. Abortion is the taking of a baby's life, whether or not you attempt to call it a fetus or not. You can't admit to that because it would make you complicit in the moral crime.

Guest
02-06-2016, 01:05 PM
there is absolutely nothing very convenient about having an abortion. Yes most are not done because of rape or incest but none are done for convenience. BS! Every one of those woman would have preferred not to have gotten pregnant BS!at that time with that fetus. There are studies looking at the reported factors in a woman choosing to terminate, and "very convenient" has never been one. BS! There are myriad social, economic, and relationship issues. The rape and incest concern is only mentioned because almost every GOP candidate would go so far as to even prohibit those terminations. Several GOP controlled states have already passed anti-abortion laws which do not include an exception for rape nor incest. The mention of those two is to show how radical and out of touch the GOP legislators and executives have become as only the most right wing candidates can emerge from a primary fight. Support an exception for rape and incest and loose your primary.BS! Even the "moderate" Rubio is against any termination for any reason.

You really are way out in LEFT field and high on a mixture of X-X-X- kool and soem of your meds.
As can be seen above the only conclusion to be reached from this post is BS prevails!

Guest
02-06-2016, 02:49 PM
Such a desperate attempt to justified baby murder. You can't even use the word "baby" in your pitiful attempt to justify it. You liberals use less than 1% of the cause as a basis to justify the totality of the demonic sacrifice. Be honest and call it what it truly is and you will have even less support than you did before. The only reason it is legal is because a court of a handful of idiots made it so. There would be no abortion if it was based on the majority. You know, the basis of "All the People" in our country? So, your pathetic argument is torn apart. Murder is the willful taking of another's life. Abortion is the taking of a baby's life, whether or not you attempt to call it a fetus or not. You can't admit to that because it would make you complicit in the moral crime.

"The only reason it is legal is because a court of a handful of idiots made it so. There would be no abortion if it was based on the majority. You know, the basis of "All the People" in our country?"

Documentation on your majority claim, please.

Guest
02-06-2016, 04:36 PM
"The only reason it is legal is because a court of a handful of idiots made it so. There would be no abortion if it was based on the majority. You know, the basis of "All the People" in our country?"

Documentation on your majority claim, please.

Common sense and logic, backed by a knowledge of the American people. How many states allowed abortion before the supreme court allowed it?

Abortion was prohibited in 30 states and legal under certain circumstances (such as pregnancies resulting from rape or incest) in 20 states. The Supreme Court 1973 decision Roe v. Wade invalidated all of these laws, and set guidelines for the availability of abortion.

But, this is not JUST about abortion, even though the liberals insist on using it as a basis for breaking the law related to selling body parts. This is about illegal activity with the selling body parts for profit. It has to do with ONLY PP at this point. There are many other institutions, public and private and those that accept donations that also perform abortions. So, you liberals are not defending abortion. You are defending the abhorrent breaking of the law regarding selling body parts for profit. And it appears that this practice does not even bother you. As a matter of fact, you are so defensive that you bring up the abortion issue as your ONLY defense. Not a very strong argument. Even though any decent person does not agree with baby murder, we also recognize the legality of it, as opposed to selling the body parts.

So, in a nut shell, GET A LIFE.....versus taking a life.

Guest
02-06-2016, 04:46 PM
Abortions are legal. Fetuses are not babies. I personally could care less if anyone sells tissue to be used for medical research, and in the long run it obviously will help cure diseases. If you conservative jerks really cared about unwanted babies, we wouldn't have all these unwanted kids in foster care, perpetuating the system of poverty in this country.

Guest
02-06-2016, 04:57 PM
there are millions of women, like me, who believe a human being's right to life is more important than the mother's right to choose for her own convenience.

I'm not one of them!!!!!

It's really not any of YOUR business!

Guest
02-06-2016, 05:02 PM
Common sense and logic, backed by a knowledge of the American people. How many states allowed abortion before the supreme court allowed it?

Abortion was prohibited in 30 states and legal under certain circumstances (such as pregnancies resulting from rape or incest) in 20 states. The Supreme Court 1973 decision Roe v. Wade invalidated all of these laws, and set guidelines for the availability of abortion.

But, this is not JUST about abortion, even though the liberals insist on using it as a basis for breaking the law related to selling body parts. This is about illegal activity with the selling body parts for profit. It has to do with ONLY PP at this point. There are many other institutions, public and private and those that accept donations that also perform abortions. So, you liberals are not defending abortion. You are defending the abhorrent breaking of the law regarding selling body parts for profit. And it appears that this practice does not even bother you. As a matter of fact, you are so defensive that you bring up the abortion issue as your ONLY defense. Not a very strong argument. Even though any decent person does not agree with baby murder, we also recognize the legality of it, as opposed to selling the body parts.

So, in a nut shell, GET A LIFE.....versus taking a life.

Tell it to the Texas grand jury!

Guest
02-06-2016, 05:12 PM
But, the point is that liberals don't care about people, especially unwanted babies. If they are not wanted, then they are not real people. They will embrace wrong. They will embrace unethical standards. They will embrace immorality. And they will embrace selling of body parts because conservatives are against it. That is the only reason. They make believe that these body parts are going to prolong their miserable lives. They are afraid to die because they do not believe in an afterlife. You can have a video showing an abortion and then the butchering of the baby and they will just deny it or embrace it. Shoot, you could butcher the parts, and grill them on the BBQ and they would not flinch in their fanatic view and support.

But, the point is that liberals don't care about people, especially unwanted babies. I think you might be confused on this point. The Democratic party is the one that supports Welfare, Medicaid and the WIC program....not so much on the Republican side. The Republican's do not support birth control, abortion even in the case of rape, investor the health of the mother, or the morning after pill. You value the life of the unborn over anything else. However, once the child is born it's not your problem....

I feel sorry for you, how can you expect to get to heaven spreading lies like these. The video has been discredited, PP has been investigated regarding this matter and found to be innocent.

But in the face of all of this your hate continues and you spread the lies.

Judgement day will come to you as well....good luck!

Guest
02-06-2016, 05:19 PM
Abortions are legal. Fetuses are not babies. I personally could care less if anyone sells tissue to be used for medical research, and in the long run it obviously will help cure diseases. If you conservative jerks really cared about unwanted babies, we wouldn't have all these unwanted kids in foster care, perpetuating the system of poverty in this country.

Yes, of course. Isn't that the point? You don't care about babies. It is a liberal war on babies. Liberals hate babies and love criminals. You have proven it over and over again. That is what makes all the difference. Cure diseases? Yep, thinking of yourselves again. Why not take the bodies of convicted murderers and use them? NO? Why not?

So, you believe there should not be "all these unwanted kids in foster care?" Hey, why not line them up and shoot them. Then you will have some more body parts to use to prolong your life.

By the way, "foster kids" are not the reason for poverty Lazy is most of the reason for poverty. There is no reason that anybody has to be in poverty, unless they are medically unable to hold a job. There are plenty of jobs out there. Some of us DID go from poverty to financially secure by such ideas as working more than one job at a time. Kids are not the reason. Kids are our TREASURE and should be thought of like that, not as a commodity to be exploited for your research to sustain lives that you deem worthy.

Unwanted kids are your opinion. Other folks would do anything to have one of those tossed away babies. Not everyone is self-centered and selfish.

Guest
02-06-2016, 05:20 PM
Kill the babies but welcome unwanted illegal aliens and Muslim refugees. Amazing!

Guest
02-06-2016, 06:25 PM
Abortions are legal. Fetuses are not babies. I personally could care less if anyone sells tissue to be used for medical research, and in the long run it obviously will help cure diseases. If you conservative jerks really cared about unwanted babies, we wouldn't have all these unwanted kids in foster care, perpetuating the system of poverty in this country.


If it was against law to adopt foreign babies there would be very few foster kids. No child should be adopted in US unless it's US citzen. When NO foster kids are left then MAYBE a few out of country. What's wrong with this country we don't take care of our own first, but give billions away to foreign countries. Let every tom dick and illegal Harry in so the rich can have cheap yard work, house work, farm hands, and day laborers.

Guest
02-06-2016, 10:32 PM
Kill the babies but welcome unwanted illegal aliens and Muslim refugees. Amazing!

Just another sicko comparison.....

Guest
02-07-2016, 12:35 AM
Abortions are legal. Fetuses are not babies. I personally could care less if anyone sells tissue to be used for medical research, and in the long run it obviously will help cure diseases. If you conservative jerks really cared about unwanted babies, we wouldn't have all these unwanted kids in foster care, perpetuating the system of poverty in this country.

Fetuses are not babies? Where did you get this BS?
Try telling that to the millions of parents who have periodic sonograms to see the progression of their BABY! Their CHILD!

Party has nothing to do with it......but some like you are content in your ignorance on the subject to just merely pass along the partisan rhetoric......as long as there is a D next to it that is all that matters.

Your isolated minority report is reluctantly noted!

Guest
02-07-2016, 07:08 AM
Just another sicko comparison.....

Just another example of the truth hurts.....

Guest
02-07-2016, 07:09 AM
Fetuses are not babies? Where did you get this BS?
Try telling that to the millions of parents who have periodic sonograms to see the progression of their BABY! Their CHILD!

Party has nothing to do with it......but some like you are content in your ignorance on the subject to just merely pass along the partisan rhetoric......as long as there is a D next to it that is all that matters.

Your isolated minority report is reluctantly noted!

:thumbup:

Guest
02-07-2016, 07:11 AM
If it was against law to adopt foreign babies there would be very few foster kids. No child should be adopted in US unless it's US citzen. When NO foster kids are left then MAYBE a few out of country. What's wrong with this country we don't take care of our own first, but give billions away to foreign countries. Let every tom dick and illegal Harry in so the rich can have cheap yard work, house work, farm hands, and day laborers.

Fostering kids is not the same as adopting a baby. I pretty much agree with the rest of your comment.

Guest
02-07-2016, 10:02 AM
Fetuses are not babies? Where did you get this BS?
Try telling that to the millions of parents who have periodic sonograms to see the progression of their BABY! Their CHILD!

Your isolated minority report is reluctantly noted!

Let's see about your accusation of BS
Baby | Definition of Baby by Merriam-Webster (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/baby) "an extremely young child"
Baby | Define Baby at Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/baby) "an infant or young child"
Baby - definition of baby by The Free Dictionary (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/baby) "a very young child, an infant"
baby Definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/baby) "a very young child"

So there are the top hits on google in order for definition of a baby. Apparently the overwhelming majority of arbiters of the English language understand that the word baby when properly used means an infant. Now if you need to get schooled in the definition of fetus I can do that also. My majority report is hereby noted.

Guest
02-07-2016, 10:05 AM
Back to the original video that started this. Has anyone looked at it, and found anything illegal with the PP behavior?

Guest
02-07-2016, 10:08 AM
Back to the original video that started this. Has anyone looked at it, and found anything illegal with the PP behavior?

Why bother to look at altered video?

Guest
02-07-2016, 10:37 AM
Let's see about your accusation of BS
Baby | Definition of Baby by Merriam-Webster (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/baby) "an extremely young child"
Baby | Define Baby at Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/baby) "an infant or young child"
Baby - definition of baby by The Free Dictionary (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/baby) "a very young child, an infant"
baby Definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/baby) "a very young child"

So there are the top hits on google in order for definition of a baby. Apparently the overwhelming majority of arbiters of the English language understand that the word baby when properly used means an infant. Now if you need to get schooled in the definition of fetus I can do that also. My majority report is hereby noted.

Since you pretend to be so able to research....only that which suits your case, how about doing the same for what a fetus is.

Here let me help you get started:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus

It is obvious why you would stay away from defining fetus as well as you think you did for baby.

The difference between referring to the living being killed whether one calls it a baby or a fetus is like try to win a watermellon contest by using a micrometer.

Do you homework next time.

Guest
02-07-2016, 11:33 AM
Let's see about your accusation of BS
Baby | Definition of Baby by Merriam-Webster (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/baby) "an extremely young child"
Baby | Define Baby at Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/baby) "an infant or young child"
Baby - definition of baby by The Free Dictionary (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/baby) "a very young child, an infant"
baby Definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/baby) "a very young child"

So there are the top hits on google in order for definition of a baby. Apparently the overwhelming majority of arbiters of the English language understand that the word baby when properly used means an infant. Now if you need to get schooled in the definition of fetus I can do that also. My majority report is hereby noted.

I can google also.

Fetus:
"an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception."

You were saying???? The accusation of "baby killing" is valid.

Why are you attempting to rationalize killing the baby? Does it make you feel justified if you can dehumanize the act?

Guest
02-07-2016, 11:52 AM
I can google also.

Fetus:
"an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception."

You were saying???? The accusation of "baby killing" is valid.

Why are you attempting to rationalize killing the baby? Does it make you feel justified if you can dehumanize the act?

Simply because there is a D involved. That is what they are allowed to say when the subject comes up.
They are endoctronated to support the party or the individual or the act even if wrong or criminal....hiding behind, using or abusing the law.

Like killing living beings.
Like supporting feloneous liars for election.

Really kinda sad.

Guest
02-07-2016, 12:25 PM
Just another example of the truth hurts.....

It would if you were truthful but you are not!

Guest
02-07-2016, 12:28 PM
Simply because there is a D involved. That is what they are allowed to say when the subject comes up.
They are endoctronated to support the party or the individual or the act even if wrong or criminal....hiding behind, using or abusing the law.

Like killing living beings.
Like supporting feloneous liars for election.

Really kinda sad.

Perhaps you support the robot candidate? Or maybe the wannabe fascist? Or maybe the Canadian?

Guest
02-07-2016, 02:35 PM
Perhaps you support the robot candidate? Or maybe the wannabe fascist? Or maybe the Canadian?

No much more simple than that.
I/we do not advocate pursuing felonious, unqualified, unethical, untrustworthy self centered liars for the office of president.

And i/we do not support or advocate socialism.

Pretty simple and unfortunate some of you do not have such alternatives.

Guest
02-07-2016, 03:10 PM
No much more simple than that.
I/we do not advocate pursuing felonious, unqualified, unethical, untrustworthy self centered liars for the office of president.

And i/we do not support or advocate socialism.

Pretty simple and unfortunate some of you do not have such alternatives.

Simple and direct....:agree:....:thumbup:

Guest
02-07-2016, 03:16 PM
Perhaps you support the robot candidate? Or maybe the wannabe fascist? Or maybe the Canadian?

The robot? If that is Rubio, sure that works for me.
Fascist? That works for me also
Canadian? If he passes the citizen test, which appears to be valid. We have a Muslim with a Kenyan father right now, so why would I discriminate?

Right now we have a racist, lying, Anti-Christian, Anti-law enforcement, ANTI-AMERICAN tyrant in the White House, so any of the above is an improvement. Anything the Dems offer is not an improvement.

Guest
02-07-2016, 03:57 PM
The robot? If that is Rubio, sure that works for me.
Fascist? That works for me also
Canadian? If he passes the citizen test, which appears to be valid. We have a Muslim with a Kenyan father right now, so why would I discriminate?

Right now we have a racist, lying, Anti-Christian, Anti-law enforcement, ANTI-AMERICAN tyrant in the White House, so any of the above is an improvement. Anything the Dems offer is not an improvement.

Right on target...:boom:

Guest
02-07-2016, 04:00 PM
No much more simple than that.
I/we do not advocate pursuing felonious, unqualified, unethical, untrustworthy self centered liars for the office of president.

And i/we do not support or advocate socialism.

Pretty simple and unfortunate some of you do not have such alternatives.

Neither do I but Bernie is NOT a Democrat he is a socialist pure and simple and has been his entire career.

You don't think Canadian is a liar? Did you check out his answers at the last debate? Or maybe because you support him because he was raised by a Commie!

Guest
02-07-2016, 04:09 PM
Neither do I but Bernie is NOT a Democrat he is a socialist pure and simple and has been his entire career.

You don't think Canadian is a liar? Did you check out his answers at the last debate? Or maybe because you support him because he was raised by a Commie!

All politicians lie somewhat. How serious was Cruz's lie? Did he lie about how patriotic Americans died, in an attempt to cover up the truth of how someone dropped the ball on rescue? Did he lie about misuse of classified material and then illegally destroy that classified material?

Guest
02-07-2016, 04:10 PM
Neither do I but Bernie is NOT a Democrat he is a socialist pure and simple and has been his entire career.

You don't think Canadian is a liar? Did you check out his answers at the last debate? Or maybe because you support him because he was raised by a Commie!

We still have options. The democrats do not.

Guest
02-07-2016, 04:17 PM
We have a Muslim with a Kenyan father right now, so why would I discriminate?

Right now we have a racist, lying, Anti-Christian, Anti-law enforcement, ANTI-AMERICAN tyrant in the White House, so any of the above is an improvement. Anything the Dems offer is not an improvement.

Hey, it looks like a top contender so far for The Villages Tea Bag Party White Sheet of the Week Award - but this is just Sunday.

There will be more contenders from other Gang of Three members (as they talk to themselves) later on, I'm sure. Stay tuned!

Guest
02-07-2016, 04:21 PM
Hey, it looks like a top contender so far for The Villages Tea Bag Party White Sheet of the Week Award - but this is just Sunday.

There will be more contenders from other Gang of Three members (as they talk to themselves) later on, I'm sure. Stay tuned!

And the troll speaks again. You got your attention so you can go now.

Guest
02-07-2016, 04:22 PM
Hey, it looks like a top contender so far for The Villages Tea Bag Party White Sheet of the Week Award - but this is just Sunday.

There will be more contenders from other Gang of Three members (as they talk to themselves) later on, I'm sure. Stay tuned!

Afraid you are going to be on your own. The MEN will be watching the game. Have fun playing with yourself.

Guest
02-07-2016, 05:24 PM
All politicians lie somewhat. How serious was Cruz's lie? Did he lie about how patriotic Americans died, in an attempt to cover up the truth of how someone dropped the ball on rescue? Did he lie about misuse of classified material and then illegally destroy that classified material?

Oh the great Republican faint....how serious was Cruz's lie...it was a lie.

OMG you believe the Benghazi Republican lies as well. Benghazi was tragedy that you and yours are trying to make a scandal. But no matter how many times you investigate you find nothing......

Now if the Dems ran a candidate who was raised by a Commie I know what you would be saying.

Guest
02-07-2016, 11:53 PM
Afraid you are going to be on your own. The MEN will be watching the game. Have fun playing with yourself.

:BigApplause:
Nailed it!

Guest
02-12-2016, 08:59 AM
my goodness, in a 50 word message the OP has 21 misspellings. Makes me wonder.

Guest
02-12-2016, 10:22 AM
Kind of figures that one without a thought, can't find a valid argument to the thread. If you have no argument, just go ahead and disparage the author. That proves that should go find a thread on broken village gates, or coyotes eating cats in The Villages. No one will know how ignorant you are in those categories.

Guest
02-12-2016, 11:39 AM
We still have options. The democrats do not.

You have no viable repub candidate. In fact you have no repub party, just a conglomeration of different factions. The repub party id dead, unless you gerrymander the national election, like you did the states.

Guest
02-12-2016, 12:03 PM
You have no viable repub candidate. In fact you have no repub party, just a conglomeration of different factions. The repub party id dead, unless you gerrymander the national election, like you did the states.

How do you Gerrymander the national election? That would require changing state lines, or splitting up the Democratic states. Northern California, which leans Republican, is trying to do that. They want to be the 51st state. If they are successful, maybe New York will follow. So, maybe you have something there.

The Republican Party isn't dead. It is a state of turmoil. If Trump or Cruz gets elected, and they can't get anything done, where do they go from there? The Tea Party will die, and RAGE will replace it. RAGE is Republicans Against Government Elites. More bitching or moaning that leads nowhere, but the loony den.

Guest
02-12-2016, 12:17 PM
You have no viable repub candidate. In fact you have no repub party, just a conglomeration of different factions. The repub party id dead, unless you gerrymander the national election, like you did the states.


Boo Hoo! Gerrymandering!! If the GOP wins, they cheated. Are you practicing up for the great occasion?

The GOP has several viable candidates. The people are filtering through them, but would vote for any one of the original 17 before they would vote for a criminal or a commie. Shows you which party has the integrity in this election cycle. You see, unlike liberals we can't be bought. You can't promise us anything in exchange for our vote. We have been happy with our country the way it was, with a very few tweaks of improvements. We are not a sorry lot that needs a big government to babysit us. We don't need anything FREE other than Liberty and our Freedom to govern ourselves with morals and ethics. And we WILL prosecute our own if they violate those important traits. We did not need a school teacher for president that talked to everyone like they were either children or demented, or retarded. We did not need him insisting that we weren't happy. And we did not need him to tell us how important Muslims were to our country's development. He is a liar and a racist. And we don't need two more socialists telling us that it is evil to be wealthy. Unlike you libtards, we admire the wealthy not ostracize them and we don't believe they owe us anything. Because if not for the wealthy, we would all be paying more taxes to pay for the high expense of operating the government. The two socialists running in the Dem party want to chase all the wealth overseas. Then we can all live in poverty like the rest of the world.

Guest
02-12-2016, 05:42 PM
Damn straight the Republicans cheat.....

Guest
02-12-2016, 06:22 PM
boo hoo! Gerrymandering!! If the gop wins, they cheated. Are you practicing up for the great occasion?

The gop has several viable candidates. The people are filtering through them, but would vote for any one of the original 17 before they would vote for a criminal or a commie. Shows you which party has the integrity in this election cycle. You see, unlike liberals we can't be bought. You can't promise us anything in exchange for our vote. We have been happy with our country the way it was, with a very few tweaks of improvements. We are not a sorry lot that needs a big government to babysit us. We don't need anything free other than liberty and our freedom to govern ourselves with morals and ethics. And we will prosecute our own if they violate those important traits. We did not need a school teacher for president that talked to everyone like they were either children or demented, or retarded. We did not need him insisting that we weren't happy. And we did not need him to tell us how important muslims were to our country's development. He is a liar and a racist. And we don't need two more socialists telling us that it is evil to be wealthy. Unlike you libtards, we admire the wealthy not ostracize them and we don't believe they owe us anything. Because if not for the wealthy, we would all be paying more taxes to pay for the high expense of operating the government. The two socialists running in the dem party want to chase all the wealth overseas. Then we can all live in poverty like the rest of the world.



whackadoodle on the loose'

Guest
02-12-2016, 06:50 PM
whackadoodle on the loose'

Great debate! I like the way you use facts to dispute my comment. Libtardation at it's best, no doubt.

Guest
02-12-2016, 07:06 PM
what does all the school yard bickering have to do with PP being a government supported baby butcher shop?

Guest
02-13-2016, 08:47 AM
what does all the school yard bickering have to do with PP being a government supported baby butcher shop?

Why do Right Wing Christians want to impose their religious beliefs on the rest of us and then play the victim when we say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas? You all run around screaming its a war on Christmas!!!

Guest
02-13-2016, 10:34 AM
Why do Right Wing Christians want to impose their religious beliefs on the rest of us and then play the victim when we say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas? You all run around screaming its a war on Christmas!!!

"Right Wing?" So, you are saying that you speak for all Democrats and Independents? So, only Republicans are Christians? I mean, I kind of feel that way, being the immoral values of the left....but, are you saying/admitting that only Republicans are Christian? And dude, have thought about getting help? No one is talking about Christmas here. Wow!