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graciegirl
02-06-2016, 03:28 PM
An alert villager who noticed something out of the way called law enforcement.


The following cut and pasted from the online news;


Two men with Polish passports who tried to steal $40,000 worth of silverware Friday afternoon in the Village of Winifred are behind bars.
An alert resident spotted a suspicious Dodge Durango driving on Alistar Court in the Village of Winifred shortly before 2 p.m. on Friday.
A witness advised Sumter County sheriff’s deputies that he saw a suspicious person walking up to a home in the 400 block of Kingston Way. The homeowner arrived home and confirmed her residence had been burglarized and an estimated $40,000 worth of silverware was stolen.
The driver of the Durango attempted to evade a squad car by driving up and down streets before eventually being pulled over on Walden Way in the Village of Winifred.
The driver of the Durango was identified as 39-year-old Zenon Szynkler by his Polish passport. He told the deputy he was staying in a Tampa hotel and had been looking for a place to fish.
http://www.**************.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Adamo-Czerner-150x150.jpgAdamo Czerner

http://www.**************.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Zenon-Sznkler-150x150.jpgZenon Szynkler

The second suspect, 36-year-old Adamo Czerner was found by deputies inside Laurel Manor Recreation Center. He also had a Polish passport and told deputies he had dropped been off in the recreation center parking lot by a female who was going to look for a hotel room, then come back and get him.
The sheriff’s office’s blood hound tracking team had been on a track that led to the recreation center and stopped at the suspect’s feet.
Both men were placed under arrest and transported to the Sumter County Detention Center.
This morning, deputies retraced the blood hound track and discovered behind the residence a crow bar. They also discovered under some shrubbery a black bag with the stolen silverware inside.
The suspect’s vehicle was linked to an attempted burglary last week in The Villages. It is a rented car leased from Miami by an out-of-country person. The modus operandi fits similar burglaries The Villages had in February and March of 2015, said Lt. Bobby Caruthers.
“It is believed that this is part of a ring of ‘travelers’ who have been committing similar type crimes throughout the state,” Caruthers said.
The sheriff’s office earlier this week had warned residents about this type of activity. You can read about that warning HERE (http://www.**************.com/sumter-county-sheriffs-office-warning-villagers-about-nomadic-criminal-threat/)

leftyf
02-06-2016, 03:41 PM
IF I were to ever have $40,000 worth of silverware, it would be kept in a safe. I can't even imagine what $40,000 worth of silverware would look like. I must be from the wrong side of the tracks.

graciegirl
02-06-2016, 03:42 PM
A link to gypsies/travelers/burglars from Palm Beach; This happened in 2013. I think we all need to keep an eye out for this kind of activity...even if we don't have a lot of silverware..............


Gypsy bandits invading South Florida, using distraction burglaries to steal valuables from residents - wptv.com (http://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-palm-beach-county/west-palm-beach/gypsy-bandits-invading-south-florida-using-distraction-burglaries-to-steal-valuables-from-residents)

dbussone
02-06-2016, 03:59 PM
Thanks for the heads up Gracie.

Perhaps the Polish bandits simply wanted to see how difficult it is to polish $40K of silverware.

They can now practice in the kitchen of the Sumter County jail.

graciegirl
02-06-2016, 04:23 PM
Here is a link to similar perps in Orlando;


Seem to target older people;


Gypsies suspected in string of Central Florida crimes - Orlando Sentinel (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-gypsy-crime-wave-20150223-story.html)

bagboy
02-06-2016, 04:33 PM
A big thanks to the neighbors who saw something and said something.

CFrance
02-06-2016, 04:34 PM
And it was the dog who tracked them down. Yay DOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!

RickeyD
02-06-2016, 06:23 PM
Why did the gypsy walk funny?

Because he had crystal balls!

:throwtomatoes:

coalminer
02-06-2016, 06:38 PM
hahahahahahaha

Walter123
02-06-2016, 06:43 PM
Why did the gypsy walk funny?

Because he had crystal balls!

:throwtomatoes:

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Allegiance
02-06-2016, 07:25 PM
Maybe one day they will meet the business end of a silver plated smith and wesson.

Phanatic Luvr
02-06-2016, 07:43 PM
Just curious ... does anyone know if the other attempt was the home on Stepping Stone last week?

yabbadu
02-07-2016, 05:41 AM
A bandit carrying a passport!!!!

Smart!!!

Walter123
02-07-2016, 07:08 AM
$40,000 worth of silverware? Get the fork out of here!

Madelaine Amee
02-07-2016, 07:30 AM
They did not just pick this house at random. They had to have been tipped off that there was something worth stealing. It could be that this home owner displayed her family silverware in a cabinet where it would be seen by anyone either working in the house or even a cleaning company. There are still some very beautiful and very valuable tea and coffee services around, and it would be easy to want to use it for decoration on a server in the dining room.

I had a very good friend who had inherited a complete set of sterling flatware and dishes plus the serving dishes from both her grandmother and then her mother. She kept it packed away in boxes because very few people in this day and age sets a table with silverware serving dishes and even less wants to be bothered with cleaning silver. There are plenty of people who have inherited silverware in their homes, and hopefully most of it is out of sight.

So the point of my message is to try to know as much as you can about anyone who comes into your home to do work for you.

Bay Kid
02-07-2016, 08:26 AM
Neighbors looking out for neighbors. Just like the old days!

bagboy
02-07-2016, 08:54 AM
They did not just pick this house at random. They had to have been tipped off that there was something worth stealing. It could be that this home owner displayed her family silverware in a cabinet where it would be seen by anyone either working in the house or even a cleaning company. There are still some very beautiful and very valuable tea and coffee services around, and it would be easy to want to use it for decoration on a server in the dining room.

I had a very good friend who had inherited a complete set of sterling flatware and dishes plus the serving dishes from both her grandmother and then her mother. She kept it packed away in boxes because very few people in this day and age sets a table with silverware serving dishes and even less wants to be bothered with cleaning silver. There are plenty of people who have inherited silverware in their homes, and hopefully most of it is out of sight.

So the point of my message is to try to know as much as you can about anyone who comes into your home to do work for you.

The authorities have warned us about these travelling criminals. And it's been stated by police that their MO is to drive the neighborhoods, knock on doors, find noone home, and enter and burglarize. You make a good point about being cautious when letting strangers enter your home. But to connect these thieves with local labor is pure speculation.

outlaw
02-07-2016, 08:56 AM
I wish people would quit printing these negative stories about the villages. The Villages is the "safest town in the USA". BTW, was this from The Village Sun?

gomoho
02-07-2016, 09:01 AM
I wish people would quit printing these negative stories about the villages. The Villages is the "safest town in the USA". BTW, was this from The Village Sun?

Doesn't help anything to bury your head in the sand. Better to be informed and aware.

Madelaine Amee
02-07-2016, 09:14 AM
The authorities have warned us about these travelling criminals. And it's been stated by police that their MO is to drive the neighborhoods, knock on doors, find noone home, and enter and burglarize. You make a good point about being cautious when letting strangers enter your home. But to connect these thieves with local labor is pure speculation.

It would be great if this was pure speculation on my part, unfortunately I do know better. Lawn service empoloyees who were actually working in the yard when the owners left in their car and did not bother to break into a safe in a closet, but carried the safe away with everything in it. To top that off, there was a very large dog in the house who never got off the couch!!!

The owner of the company (who we know very well) said it is the hardest thing to get reputable employees for this type of labor force due to the low pay.

BobnBev
02-07-2016, 09:48 AM
$40,000 worth of silverware? Get the fork out of here!

$40,000 worth of silverware? I think we're being spoon fed some BS.:shrug::spoken:

Cedwards38
02-07-2016, 09:58 AM
I'm a big believer in monitored electronic home security systems! I wish we all had them.

Mudder
02-07-2016, 09:59 AM
The owner probably thinks all their silverware is worth that much, but I bet the going sale price would be much less than they think. And what's the point of having all stuff like that all packed away in boxes. A few years ago I sold all my silverware pieces because I really hadn't used anything in years and the kids are not into that type of life where they'd use any of it.

birdawg
02-07-2016, 10:06 AM
What does it matter how much the silverware cost someone could have been hurt or killed. And we question the cost of the silverware. Lets get real about what happened.

Walter123
02-07-2016, 10:14 AM
Now all those two Polish dudes will be serving is time!

Walter123
02-07-2016, 10:20 AM
What does it matter how much the silverware cost someone could have been hurt or killed. And we question the cost of the silverware. Lets get real about what happened.

chilout

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
02-07-2016, 10:43 AM
I wish people would quit printing these negative stories about the villages. The Villages is the "safest town in the USA". BTW, was this from The Village Sun?

I see no conflict here. The Villages is, if not the safest, then certainly one of the safest towns in the country.

That does not mean that there is no crime. We still need to be aware.

I just don't think we need to feel the same as people that live in the inner cities of Detroit, Miami and other high crime areas.

Crime does happen here it just happens much less than other places. Unless you want to completely fortify your house and never go out there is always a risk of being the victim of some sort of crime. The odds are simply a lot lower here. How much of a chance you take is up to you.

Do you want to spend money on a monitored home security system? That depends on how much they cost and what you think are the chances of your home getting burglarized. Everyone gets to make their own decisions on these matters.

Tweety Bird
02-07-2016, 11:02 AM
And how would they know that this particular house had that many "goods". How does one target a house? Just pick one?

Sandtrap328
02-07-2016, 11:16 AM
And how would they know that this particular house had that many "goods". How does one target a house? Just pick one?

Maybe a cleaning employee, maybe spotted by a service worker, maybe just by peeping in a window.

Hopefully, these guys will not be let out on bail so they can steal more things.

Walt.
02-07-2016, 12:00 PM
And how would they know that this particular house had that many "goods". How does one target a house? Just pick one?
Why not? If, instead, they had broken into the house next door and gotten $10,000 worth of jewelry we would never have known the neighbors' silverware existed. Then someone would say "they must have known about the jewelry!"

If there was only $1,000 in jewelry stolen we wouldn't know about any of it.

chuckinca
02-07-2016, 12:03 PM
I'm a big believer in monitored electronic home security systems! I wish we all had them.


We had that in our place in the Norcal.

After our son's HS graduation we went on a camping trip with the whole family who came to town for the graduation party. We were out of cell phone range in the Sierra's east of Nevada City for a week.

When we were returning, a call came in from the alarm service saying there was an attempted break in. When we got home there was a card from the police with a request that we call them. An officer came out and told us that a burglar tried to force open a window and the alarm went off and scared him away.

The officer said he walked around the house checking and looked in windows to see if there was any damage. We had a six foot mannequin dressed in black graduation robes for the party just inside the front door that the cop said he just about shot.

.

Diver
02-07-2016, 12:24 PM
Just because the service worked are paid low wages doesn't mean they are not honest hard working people. Would you pay $40 a week to have your lawn mowed? Would you pay $150 to have your house cleaned? They are paying low wages because that is the only way to get your business.

Jima64
02-07-2016, 03:05 PM
And how would they know that this particular house had that many "goods". How does one target a house? Just pick one?

Maybe this house was easiest to get into. Maybe they do so many they justhit the jackpot on the silverware. These type of roll through criminals play the odds and know older residents are more likely to have nice things. They rarely take electronics and that sort according to the officers article and warning.

dalecrenshaw
02-07-2016, 03:15 PM
Now all those two Polish dudes will be serving is time!

Unfortunately, there are probably more than just these 2 guys in the this gang that haven't been caught. Hopefully the authorities will deport these 2 after serving a long time in jail.

HimandMe
02-07-2016, 03:28 PM
IMHO this type of brazen criminal knows exactly what to look for; how to size people up and cases the homes beforehand. They are not dumb and dumber looking to grab what they happen to find. I'm glad at least two are caught but according to what I read one or more are in a nearby hotel. Be watchful and careful out there.

asianthree
02-07-2016, 04:27 PM
Time to get new appraisal on the silver. Or time to sell.

birdawg
02-07-2016, 04:38 PM
One got out on bail at 1:00 today CRAZY.

graciegirl
02-07-2016, 05:09 PM
One got out on bail at 1:00 today CRAZY.



I feel bad for the cops, the helpful neighbor and the dog, but most of all I feel bad for us.


Will he do it again? You betcha.

Mr. Bees
02-08-2016, 08:10 AM
It is such a blessing to now live in a community where the police are not so overburdened with shootings, armed robberies, etc that they can take extra measures to solve crimes that are mostly ignored in the more crime -ridden neighborhoods. Thank you Law Enforcement!

Bay Kid
02-08-2016, 08:14 AM
Send them back, in the luggage compartment of the plane, to the hole they crawled out of never to return.

HimandMe
02-08-2016, 11:23 AM
Thanks to Gracie's reprinting of the Sheriffs alert, many of us were on the lookout? Too bad there wasn't a way we could all get a red alert instant message in extreme situations that we could share on our individual village websites so few are left in the dark.

I don't like that one is out of jail as they seem bold enough to keep on with their thieving as it is a yearly thing. We will have to keep on finding ways to fortify ourselves and our neighborhoods so we are not attractive to them. It seems our police need a big congratulations for catching two of them and for their seminars and other ways of getting us informed. Thank you.

RickeyD
02-08-2016, 11:26 AM
Thanks to Gracie's reprinting of the Sheriffs alert, many of us were on the lookout? Too bad there wasn't a way we could all get a red alert instant message in extreme situations that we could share on our individual village websites so few are left in the dark.



I don't like that one is out of jail as they seem bold enough to keep on with their thieving as it is a yearly thing. We will have to keep on finding ways to fortify ourselves and our neighborhoods so we are not attractive to them. It seems our police need a big congratulations for catching two of them and for their seminars and other ways of getting us informed. Thank you.


Let's also thank the magistrate for letting him out on chump change bond.

rubicon
02-08-2016, 04:36 PM
The Villages is a safe place until your purse is stolen, your house is broken into, your cart or golf clubs stolen while your having lunch at a restaurant, your credit card information is stolen..............

graciegirl
02-08-2016, 05:36 PM
I keep thinking about a culture that over time continues to steal. I just can't fathom how these things are taught to children that are loved.

RickeyD
02-08-2016, 06:03 PM
The Villages is a safe place until your purse is stolen, your house is broken into, your cart or golf clubs stolen while your having lunch at a restaurant, your credit card information is stolen..............

I see your real meaning in this statement. :thumbup:

HimandMe
02-08-2016, 06:39 PM
The Villages is a safe place until your purse is stolen, your house is broken into, your cart or golf clubs stolen while your having lunch at a restaurant, your credit card information is stolen..............

Yes, as safe and great as TV is if it is your house or your possessions in question you never quite feel the same. These guys have made a profession out of stealing and taking away people's sense of safety in their own homes. It's disgusting to even think about for any length of time. It must have been really hard on those who turned them in to see one get out but I'm sure he is being watched carefully and every detail they can find out about them is being sought.

Time to set the alarms and put the dog on alert!

dalecrenshaw
02-08-2016, 06:44 PM
Why was the bail only $2000? That's outrageous! These guys have Polish passports and can skip out of the country. I don't think they are going to hang around for a trial

bagboy
02-08-2016, 08:21 PM
The Villages is a safe place until your purse is stolen, your house is broken into, your cart or golf clubs stolen while your having lunch at a restaurant, your credit card information is stolen..............

And there are those who will make fun of and question the value of personal property that was stolen from Villagers by someone coming into their home, violating their very personal space, and changing the way they feel about their safety and well being living here. I hope when they are violated, they post how they feel on this forum.