View Full Version : Why! Don't people use blinker lights
Topspinmo
02-13-2016, 08:47 AM
Model T when out of production 85 years or so ago and blinker lights became standard equipment options on vehicles in the 50s. I noticed less than 30% use blinkers especially in roundabouts.
I notice traffic can back up due to right hand turns don't use the blinker light and makes entering traffic to come to complete stop. I understand left lane would use it when the intend to exit the roundabout (which majority don't either)
I use mine all the time but feel like idiot being the only one most of the time in roundabout using it. Should I join the crowd and delay traffic?
Ok what's my point? I guess it may help traffic flow and that benifits all of us! And just may prevent few accidents?
Villager Joyce
02-13-2016, 08:59 AM
Please explain how/when you use your turn signal. I would use mine, but can't figure out when/how. If leaving the circle by turning right into an entrance to a village is pretty straight forward EXCEPT will people think you are staying in the circle and merging right with traffic and then enter the circle in front of you because you don't leave.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
02-13-2016, 09:13 AM
I don't know where you get that 30% number. It seems to me that about 90% of the drivers do use them. I question whether or not they should be used in a round about since you are not actually making a turn.
If you enter a round about at six o'clock in the right hand lane and exit it at twelve o'clock in the same lane, you have not left your lane and you have not made a turn. It's nothing more than a curve in the road.
Does Florida law say anything about this? Maybe there are special rules for turn signals in round abouts.
DonH57
02-13-2016, 09:24 AM
I was under the impression cars sold in Florida don't come equipped with turn signals by the scarce use of them I see every day.
RickeyD
02-13-2016, 10:08 AM
Model T when out of production 85 years or so ago and blinker lights became standard equipment options on vehicles in the 50s. I noticed less than 30% use blinkers especially in roundabouts.
I notice traffic can back up due to right hand turns don't use the blinker light and makes entering traffic to come to complete stop. I understand left lane would use it when the intend to exit the roundabout (which majority don't either)
I use mine all the time but feel like idiot being the only one most of the time in roundabout using it. Should I join the crowd and delay traffic?
Ok what's my point? I guess it may help traffic flow and that benifits all of us! And just may prevent few accidents?
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Topspinmo
02-13-2016, 10:29 AM
I don't know where you get that 30% number. It seems to me that about 90% of the drivers do use them. I question whether or not they should be used in a round about since you are not actually making a turn.
If you enter a round about at six o'clock in the right hand lane and exit it at twelve o'clock in the same lane, you have not left your lane and you have not made a turn. It's nothing more than a curve in the road.
Does Florida law say anything about this? Maybe there are special rules for turn signals in round abouts.
You must drive on different highways than me? Ok I may have over estimated. I'll up it to 50%, IMO no where near 90%.
I guess you don't get it. The bend in the road has exit. It's the ones TURNING (exiting) not using they're Blinker lights. If there going straight through they're not turning (exiting) the round about.
Don't tell me you haven't been waiting to enter round about and single right lane car just turns or behind traffic stopped and left lane clear but single right lane just turns when everybody assuming he's going straight. We assume that cause no blinker light was used.
Topspinmo
02-13-2016, 10:32 AM
I was under the impression cars sold in Florida don't come equipped with turn signals by the scarce use of them I see every day.
I don't blame Florida, it in all states. Besides, most of use not from Florida.
Topspinmo
02-13-2016, 10:43 AM
Please explain how/when you use your turn signal. I would use mine, but can't figure out when/how. If leaving the circle by turning right into an entrance to a village is pretty straight forward EXCEPT will people think you are staying in the circle and merging right with traffic and then enter the circle in front of you because you don't leave.
that's right, it's for the people wanting to enter the circle, and the people behind them waiting also. It sometimes makes difference being they only have to yield knowing you are turning by using you blinker light.
kittygilchrist
02-13-2016, 10:45 AM
I was under the impression cars sold in Florida don't come equipped with turn signals by the scarce use of them I see every day.
:agree:
I have looked at the auto parts stores and they Do NOT EVEN SELL blinker fluid around here.
Walter123
02-13-2016, 11:28 AM
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perrjojo
02-13-2016, 11:32 AM
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I don't know what you said but I think I agree. :a20:
golfing eagles
02-13-2016, 11:57 AM
that's right, it's for the people wanting to enter the circle, and the people behind them waiting also. It sometimes makes difference being they only have to yield knowing you are turning by using you blinker light.
On he other hand, do you 100% trust the driver with his directional on to actually do what his signal intends to show? Especially carts, where those that know how to turn them on seldom seem to know how to shut them off.
photo1902
02-13-2016, 01:20 PM
On he other hand, do you 100% trust the driver with his directional on to actually do what his signal intends to show? Especially carts, where those that know how to turn them on seldom seem to know how to shut them off.
on this one. Why would you ever assume someone's intentions based on a turn signal, or lack thereof?
Rango
02-13-2016, 01:30 PM
I was under the impression cars sold in Florida don't come equipped with turn signals by the scarce use of them I see every day.
They come with turn signals-but you can't operate them and text at the same time.
Retiring
02-13-2016, 02:22 PM
I can�t speak for roundabouts, as I don�t know when to use a turn signal in one of those. Hopefully, I�ll learn if I ever get the chance to live there. As for not using turn signals in general, it�s a national problem. And it�s always been one of my pet peeves. Here in WA I would say, at most, 10% signal their turn.
The only discussion I can recall from drivers-ed, during my senior year of HS, pertains to turn signals. Teacher says, always use turn signals even if you�re on a highway and there isn�t another car for 3 miles. Student says, why would you do that? Teacher: why wouldn�t you? Forgetting to signal is a reason, we have all done it. However, there is never an excuse for not signaling a turn.
That whole roundabout thing, I have no idea.
CFrance
02-13-2016, 02:41 PM
I was under the impression cars sold in Florida don't come equipped with turn signals by the scarce use of them I see every day.
No, actually, those are the ones from Michigan.:laugh::laugh::laugh:
CFrance
02-13-2016, 02:42 PM
:agree:
I have looked at the auto parts stores and they Do NOT EVEN SELL blinker fluid around here.
Good one, Kitty!
JoMar
02-13-2016, 03:04 PM
I don't know where you get that 30% number. It seems to me that about 90% of the drivers do use them. I question whether or not they should be used in a round about since you are not actually making a turn.
If you enter a round about at six o'clock in the right hand lane and exit it at twelve o'clock in the same lane, you have not left your lane and you have not made a turn. It's nothing more than a curve in the road.
Does Florida law say anything about this? Maybe there are special rules for turn signals in round abouts.
There have been several video's posted on here that provide training on roundabouts. I understand your point about the the "curve in the road" but all the videos I have seen show that going straight is considered an exit and a signal should be used. The Florida Dept of Transportation does not require a signal when going straight. My navigation system also defines going straight in the roundabout as the second exit. If I'm making a left turn it defines that as the third exit which corresponds to the video's that are available. I use the right turn signal when turning right of course, if I go straight I turn on my signal when I'm even with the traffic coming into the roundabout from the right. When in the inside lane I use my left turn signal when turning left (duh) but if going straight I use the right turn signal when even with entering traffic from the right. This should tell those going in the opposite direction what I will be doing and make their navigation of the roundabout safer. Out of habit, I use the turn signal when exiting the roundabout and head for a gate. I am seeing more folks using their signals but not nearly enough have figured it out. From what I have seen I wonder how many just close their eyes and go. It's still a race track out there.
Jima64
02-13-2016, 03:07 PM
Please remember how many people moved here from out of state when making judgements about Florida drivers.
JoMar
02-13-2016, 03:12 PM
Please remember how many people moved here from out of state when making judgements about Florida drivers.
Agree, but driving shouldn't be OJT when resources are available.
cquick
02-13-2016, 03:47 PM
I use my turn signals all the time, even in round abouts
RickeyD
02-13-2016, 04:01 PM
I use my turn signals all the time, even in round abouts
So you're the one !!!
coffeebean
02-13-2016, 05:05 PM
On he other hand, do you 100% trust the driver with his directional on to actually do what his signal intends to show? Especially carts, where those that know how to turn them on seldom seem to know how to shut them off.
My thoughts exactly. I don't trust any directional in any situation until the driver actually begins to do what their directional says they plan to do. In a RAB, I'm one of those MANY drivers who don't bother to use a directionals. I feel every driver should not trust any directional. Always wait to see where the driver is actually intending on traveling. That is part of defensive driving in my book. This may slow down the traffic flow but it will prevent accidents.
I always use directionals.....only exception to this is exiting RABs. To be honest, I see less than 5% of drivers here in TV using their directionals when exiting RABs.
Greg Nelson
02-13-2016, 05:45 PM
I was told that in Florida if you see someone with a turn signal on stay away! If they signal left they'll go right..
Topspinmo
02-13-2016, 05:51 PM
On he other hand, do you 100% trust the driver with his directional on to actually do what his signal intends to show? Especially carts, where those that know how to turn them on seldom seem to know how to shut them off.
If they signal in advance and not as the turn, or at all, I don't have to come to stop cause they are not in roundabout yet or just entering. Naturally if I see the wheels not turning right I assuming they are going straight signal or not.
coffeebean
02-13-2016, 07:22 PM
I was told that in Florida if you see someone with a turn signal on stay away! If they signal left they'll go right..
In Florida, break lights are a turn signal....just have no idea what the driver's possible intention is; could be a left turn or a right turn.
kcrazorbackfan
02-13-2016, 08:30 PM
It sort of evens out between the people that don't use them and the people that just drive on and on with the turn signal blinking. Heck, I even see them parked with the blinkers going.....
JoMar
02-13-2016, 09:01 PM
My thoughts exactly. I don't trust any directional in any situation until the driver actually begins to do what their directional says they plan to do. In a RAB, I'm one of those MANY drivers who don't bother to use a directionals. I feel every driver should not trust any directional. Always wait to see where the driver is actually intending on traveling. That is part of defensive driving in my book. This may slow down the traffic flow but it will prevent accidents.
I always use directionals.....only exception to this is exiting RABs. To be honest, I see less than 5% of drivers here in TV using their directionals when exiting RABs.
Which continues the stereotypical view the world has of seniors driving in Florida. I guess it's true....:)
Ray Roberts
02-13-2016, 10:05 PM
It is not just the roundabouts. It is regular turns on regular streets. I have began to think that most folks unhook their turn signals when they arrive in the Villages, as they appear tone inoperative. Too big of a hurry to get to the quilters meeting or the golf course?
villagetinker
02-13-2016, 10:33 PM
My grandfather taught me to drive. He did an excellent job. For example I am driving down a street, he puts his hand over the rear view mirror and asks me how many cars are behind me, lesson USE YOUR MIRRORS. He taught me ALWAYS use turn signals, I still use these at 2 am in the morning going into our driveway, he would give me heck if I made a turn without using signals. He always told me to expect the unexpected and to ALWAYS have an OUT while you are driving. This advice was invaluable, and unfortunately I have had to use to way too many times in TV.
Golf cart turning LEFT from the GC lane, signals, in front of my car, you must be kidding. Twice in 2 years!!
Idiot in opposing lane stopped to allow GC to cross MM path, just missed having a GC as a hood ornament. PEOPLE, ONLY UNIFORMED OFFICIALS ARE ALLOWED TO DIRECT TRAFFIC.
I cannot count the number of times I have seen people changing lanes in the roundabouts, enter from right lane, go into the center lane in roundabout, then exit to right lane....
And please do not get me started on running RED lights......
Just venting, thank you...............
FoPAA
02-13-2016, 10:48 PM
This is straight from the sticky above "How to navigate roundabouts" (which I guess few have ever bothered to click on):
"When you have passed the last exit before the
one you want, use your right-turn signal and
continue to use it through your exit."
I am one of the 5%!!
circletrack
02-13-2016, 11:58 PM
I don't know where you get that 30% number. It seems to me that about 90% of the drivers do use them. I question whether or not they should be used in a round about since you are not actually making a turn.
If you enter a round about at six o'clock in the right hand lane and exit it at twelve o'clock in the same lane, you have not left your lane and you have not made a turn. It's nothing more than a curve in the road.
Does Florida law say anything about this? Maybe there are special rules for turn signals in round abouts.
I briefly signal when exiting, whether it's the first, second or third exit. I mostly do it from the right lane as a courtesy only to the folks waiting to enter. When in the inside lane, I signal just to make anyone behind me aware of my next move.
Often people from a different entrance than me rush into the right lane and may not realize that I will be legally exiting from the inside lane based on where I entered.
If folks would just pay attention to the giant lane signs on approach it would solve a lot of problems.
So many enter in the inside lane and cut off the outside driver to exit at the first exit.
CFrance
02-14-2016, 07:56 AM
I briefly signal when exiting, whether it's the first, second or third exit. I mostly do it from the right lane as a courtesy only to the folks waiting to enter. When in the inside lane, I signal just to make anyone behind me aware of my next move.
Often people from a different entrance than me rush into the right lane and may not realize that I will be legally exiting from the inside lane based on where I entered.
If folks would just pay attention to the giant lane signs on approach it would solve a lot of problems.
So many enter in the inside lane and cut off the outside driver to exit at the first exit.
Perfectly put, all of it.
outlaw
02-14-2016, 08:07 AM
My turn signals don't stay on consistently in roundabouts. If I use them, I have to keep my hand on the signal lever to keep the turn signal on. I think it has to do with the steering wheel turning in the opposite direction of the signal direction coupled with the automatic disengage mechanism of the turn signal.
asianthree
02-14-2016, 08:32 AM
Are you including those who leave their signals on for that eventual turn. That has to bring up the 30%
rubicon
02-14-2016, 08:52 AM
My occupation taught me to be consistent in following the rules of the road irrespective of place or time. so if I was out in the boondocks at 4:00 AM and approaching an intersection with a stop sign, I would stop. If turning I would signal, if it were a four lane and changing lanes I'd signal for a lane change. Staying true to these habits makes it more likely that a driver will remain in compliance.
At round-a-bouts I signal my intentions. As I approach my gate at a right-a-bout i signal that I'll be turning right into the gate's entrance
I do all that and when another driver annoys me I never resort to extending my middle finger.:D
capecoralbill
02-14-2016, 10:02 AM
My turn signals don't stay on consistently in roundabouts. If I use them, I have to keep my hand on the signal lever to keep the turn signal on. I think it has to do with the steering wheel turning in the opposite direction of the signal direction coupled with the automatic disengage mechanism of the turn signal.
Outlaw just said it.
I cant tell you how many times i've pulled out in front of somebody that had their blinker on, but did not mean it. Probly us old people cant hear the blinkers clicking noise. Turns entering into and in circles are usually more gradual than a normal 90 degree turn, often the blinkers do not self cancel. Also, some blinkers do not 'take' when trying to turn them on when you are in the middle of circle, sort of turning all the time, so they self cancel. Therefore, I use my signals when they will work, and I TOTALLY ignore all other peoples signals.
dillywho
02-14-2016, 10:09 AM
My grandfather taught me to drive. He did an excellent job. For example I am driving down a street, he puts his hand over the rear view mirror and asks me how many cars are behind me, lesson USE YOUR MIRRORS. He taught me ALWAYS use turn signals, I still use these at 2 am in the morning going into our driveway, he would give me heck if I made a turn without using signals. He always told me to expect the unexpected and to ALWAYS have an OUT while you are driving. This advice was invaluable, and unfortunately I have had to use to way too many times in TV.
Golf cart turning LEFT from the GC lane, signals, in front of my car, you must be kidding. Twice in 2 years!!
Idiot in opposing lane stopped to allow GC to cross MM path, just missed having a GC as a hood ornament. PEOPLE, ONLY UNIFORMED OFFICIALS ARE ALLOWED TO DIRECT TRAFFIC.
I cannot count the number of times I have seen people changing lanes in the roundabouts, enter from right lane, go into the center lane in roundabout, then exit to right lane....
And please do not get me started on running RED lights......
Just venting, thank you...............
Excellent vent! You did, however, leave out one.....STOP signs. They are not there to add color to the landscape, as so many seem to think. For those who would like to use stop signs instead of gates; NO. If they won't stop for a gate, why would anyone think they would stop for a silly ole sign? Just sayin'!
Topspinmo
02-14-2016, 07:05 PM
Outlaw just said it.
Also, some blinkers do not 'take' when trying to turn them on when you are in the middle of circle, sort of turning all the time, so they self cancel. Therefore, I use my signals when they will work?
That only when you in the left lane thing in roundabout. No excuses for the first right hand turn in roundabout. When my steering wheel shifts right My hand hits the blinker light. Too bad there not more aggressive law enforcement. Few tickets for not signaling will soon correct the problem.
Topspinmo
02-14-2016, 07:08 PM
I briefly signal when exiting, whether it's the first, second or third exit. I mostly do it from the right lane as a courtesy only to the folks waiting to enter. When in the inside lane, I signal just to make anyone behind me aware of my next move.
Often people from a different entrance than me rush into the right lane and may not realize that I will be legally exiting from the inside lane based on where I entered.
If folks would just pay attention to the giant lane signs on approach it would solve a lot of problems.
So many enter in the inside lane and cut off the outside driver to exit at the first exit.
:bigbow: thank you
MDLNB
02-15-2016, 06:27 AM
:agree:
I have looked at the auto parts stores and they Do NOT EVEN SELL blinker fluid around here.
Is that a blond joke? Funny.
Bob45
02-15-2016, 06:53 AM
On he other hand, do you 100% trust the driver with his directional on to actually do what his signal intends to show? Especially carts, where those that know how to turn them on seldom seem to know how to shut them off.
Amen......
Zulu1950
02-15-2016, 08:21 AM
I recommend that when you get in that roundabout you just keep a wide open eye and get there before they do.
Zulu1950
02-15-2016, 08:25 AM
By the way, what is the difference between a junior member and a senior member?
Zulu1950
02-15-2016, 08:32 AM
Can't spell blonde?
memason
02-15-2016, 08:36 AM
By the way, what is the difference between a junior member and a senior member?
Junior members aren't allowed correct anyone's spelling...
Zanie
02-15-2016, 08:46 AM
There was a thorough explanation on the use of turn signals in the Daily Sun not to long ago. It will be more courteous and safer if they were used and used correctly. Contact the local Sheriff and I'm sure you will get what you are looking for.
Villager Joyce
02-15-2016, 09:03 AM
Did somebody eat glass and nails for breakfast? Way to insult people on your third post?
pauld315
02-15-2016, 09:41 AM
I have lived near Raleigh NC for almost 25 years and it happens here all the time, not just on roundabouts. I have always theorized that people are just trying to extend the life of their flashers and bulbs.
Marlo
02-15-2016, 10:05 AM
My husband and I have decided that blinkers here in Florida are an option when you buy a car - a lot of people have neglected to get them???? It doesn't matter whether it's a car or a golf cart. It's so frustrating but did get the horn option and aren't afraid to use it.:laugh:
I stole this picture from someone who posted last year on TOTV - it seemed to fit this thread. I loved it when I saw it.
steve1025
02-15-2016, 10:17 AM
What's the sense of putting on your Turn Signal when no one�s gonna believe you're really turning.
outlaw
02-15-2016, 10:21 AM
What's the sense of putting on your Turn Signal when no one�s gonna believe you're really turning.
Best one yet.
Hal1z
02-15-2016, 11:49 AM
A traffic circle is an intersection. A traffic circle is just like a standard 4 way street intersection but each entrance is like you have a Yield Sign (not a Stop Sign). Vehicles in the traffic circle have the right of way over those waiting to enter the traffic circle (intersection).
Note: There are single lane and dual lane circles in The Villages.
Prior to entering a dual lane traffic circle you should know which exit you are going to take to leave the traffic circle. If you are going to exit at the first right, you must be in the right lane. As you enter the circle, use your right signal and exit the circle. If you are going to exit at the second right, as you pass the first right, use your right signal and exit at the second right. You may also exit at the second right if you entered the circle from the left lane and use your signal as you pass the first exit.
If you plan to exit the circle at the third right you should have entered the circle in the left lane (if it is a dual lane circle) and as you pass the second exit on the right you use your right signal and exit at the third right.
DON'T CHANGE LANES IN A TRAFFIC CIRCLE!!!
USE YOUR TURN SIGNALS SO THOSE BEHIND YOU AND THOSE WAITING TO ENTER THE CIRCLE ARE AWARE OF WHAT YOU INTEND TO DO.
Remember, once you are in the circle, you have the right of way over those waiting to enter the circle but you must use your signal so those around you know what you intend to do. You can be the cause of a traffic crash by not properly using your turn signals and could get a ticket.
If I have misstated anything above, please correct me.
I hope MORE drivers would use turn signals and I would hope that our local police would enforce the laws concerning use of turn signals.
Lets be safe driving in our circles.
Rapscallion St Croix
02-15-2016, 11:59 AM
About a month ago I was turning North from 466 onto 441 in Lady Lake.
The lady in front of me must have had defective turn signals, but that didn't stop her from indicating her intentions. She held a cardboard arrow about 2 feet long up through the sunroof of her car. She used it again to indicate a lane change on 441. I don't know if her improvisation would hold up in court, but I give her high marks.
bagboy
02-15-2016, 12:01 PM
A traffic circle is an intersection. A traffic circle is just like a standard 4 way street intersection but each entrance is like you have a Yield Sign (not a Stop Sign). Vehicles in the traffic circle have the right of way over those waiting to enter the traffic circle (intersection).
Note: There are single lane and dual lane circles in The Villages.
Prior to entering a dual lane traffic circle you should know which exit you are going to take to leave the traffic circle. If you are going to exit at the first right, you must be in the right lane. As you enter the circle, use your right signal and exit the circle. If you are going to exit at the second right, as you pass the first right, use your right signal and exit at the second right. You may also exit at the second right if you entered the circle from the left lane and use your signal as you pass the first exit.
If you plan to exit the circle at the third right you should have entered the circle in the left lane (if it is a dual lane circle) and as you pass the second exit on the right you use your right signal and exit at the third right.
DON'T CHANGE LANES IN A TRAFFIC CIRCLE!!!
USE YOUR TURN SIGNALS SO THOSE BEHIND YOU AND THOSE WAITING TO ENTER THE CIRCLE ARE AWARE OF WHAT YOU INTEND TO DO.
Remember, once you are in the circle, you have the right of way over those waiting to enter the circle but you must use your signal so those around you know what you intend to do. You can be the cause of a traffic crash by not properly using your turn signals and could get a ticket.
If I have misstated anything above, please correct me.
I hope MORE drivers would use turn signals and I would hope that our local police would enforce the laws concerning use of turn signals.
Lets be safe driving in our circles.
Pretty much sums it up quite nicely.
moehog
02-15-2016, 12:08 PM
some people cant walk &talk at the same time
joldnol
02-15-2016, 12:24 PM
why do so many treat a round about as a stop? No one will be in the circle and some jack wagon comes to a complete stop.
golfing eagles
02-15-2016, 12:30 PM
why do so many treat a round about as a stop? No one will be in the circle and some jack wagon comes to a complete stop.
Because they're clueless????
RickeyD
02-15-2016, 01:04 PM
I haven't seen that many people not using automobile blinkers here. If people are referring to roundabouts I do see that, in fact most people don't. I see no problem with that since there is no need to slow while exiting and they really aren't turns at all . Nope, just a slight bend.
Golf carts ? Yep, not too many people use'm. I always do.
Fred R
02-15-2016, 02:47 PM
Driving roundabouts are real easy if you, drive slow, watch everyone else, be courteous, and DON'T assume the other guy to doing the same thing.
Peddler3500
02-15-2016, 05:34 PM
Good grief. Use the blinker when you make a 45 degree turn.
Villager Joyce
02-15-2016, 05:46 PM
Interesting trend with this thread. A number of posters who joined months or even years ago are posting for the first, second or third time on this tread AND with such negative bully posts. Guess you can't discuss religion, politics and round abouts.
RickeyD
02-15-2016, 06:19 PM
I don't mean to insult anyone on this thread and I have never discussed traffic circles with anyone at any great length, but any time I'm behind someone using their signal within a circle I find it distracting and confusing culminating with me calling that person an idiot. Am I missing something here ? Get in get out, that's about it. Using a signal just slows things up ! Traffic circles are common where I live in NY and I use them every day. I see a signal being used maybe once every few months, max. And that's plenty for me...I see absolutely no reason to signal within a circle.
coffeebean
02-15-2016, 07:35 PM
This is straight from the sticky above "How to navigate roundabouts" (which I guess few have ever bothered to click on):
"When you have passed the last exit before the
one you want, use your right-turn signal and
continue to use it through your exit."
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I am one of the 5%!!
Wishful thinking in my opinion. I can see how it can work, but it's just not going to happen.
coffeebean
02-15-2016, 07:41 PM
Outlaw just said it.
I cant tell you how many times i've pulled out in front of somebody that had their blinker on, but did not mean it. Probly us old people cant hear the blinkers clicking noise. Turns entering into and in circles are usually more gradual than a normal 90 degree turn, often the blinkers do not self cancel. Also, some blinkers do not 'take' when trying to turn them on when you are in the middle of circle, sort of turning all the time, so they self cancel. Therefore, I use my signals when they will work, and I TOTALLY ignore all other peoples signals.
Perfectly said. My thoughts exactly.
coffeebean
02-15-2016, 07:55 PM
What's the sense of putting on your Turn Signal when no one�s gonna believe you're really turning.
Unfortunately, this is reality.
Topspinmo
02-15-2016, 08:54 PM
I don't mean to insult anyone on this thread and I have never discussed traffic circles with anyone at any great length, but any time I'm behind someone using their signal within a circle I find it distracting and confusing culminating with me calling that person an idiot. Am I missing something here ? Get in get out, that's about it. Using a signal just slows things up ! Traffic circles are common where I live in NY and I use them every day. I see a signal being used maybe once every few months, max. And that's plenty for me...I see absolutely no reason to signal within a circle.
Ok that's it NY'er don't use signals Ricky D said it, seen it ever day in NY.:bigbow:
Your joking right? Does NY have single lane roundabouts only? If not that may be the problem? :popcorn:
How does flipping turning switch lever slow things up? Is yours connected to the brakes?
RickeyD
02-15-2016, 10:27 PM
Ok that's it NY'er don't use signals Ricky D said it, seen it ever day in NY.:bigbow:
Your joking right? Does NY have single lane roundabouts only? If not that may be the problem? :popcorn:
How does flipping turning switch lever slow things up? Is yours connected to the brakes?
In our town we have two singles and one double. Nobody signals, and nobody is expected to signal. That's why it's confusing if someone does signal. I mean, it's only seconds from the time you enter till you exit. What's the point ? Everyone knows eventually you're gonna exit so why bother ? It's not a surprise, get it ? :icon_wink:
May I also add that's it's typical to actually accelerate through the circle. Kinda like gaining speed when a space capsule slingshots around a planet.
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Topspinmo
02-16-2016, 08:25 AM
No, I don't get it.
graciegirl
02-18-2016, 09:52 AM
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bagboy
02-18-2016, 11:04 AM
I don't mean to insult anyone on this thread and I have never discussed traffic circles with anyone at any great length, but any time I'm behind someone using their signal within a circle I find it distracting and confusing culminating with me calling that person an idiot. Am I missing something here ? Get in get out, that's about it. Using a signal just slows things up ! Traffic circles are common where I live in NY and I use them every day. I see a signal being used maybe once every few months, max. And that's plenty for me...I see absolutely no reason to signal within a circle.
Ricky, when I enter a roundabout in the left lane with the intention of continuing on straight, I always use my signal at the point I "turn right" to go straight. I do this to let the car behind me to the right, and the driver impatiently entering the circle to my right, know just where I am going. Even when I signal, I'm still cautious.
Boomer
02-18-2016, 11:09 AM
I don't mean to insult anyone on this thread and I have never discussed traffic circles with anyone at any great length, but any time I'm behind someone using their signal within a circle I find it distracting and confusing culminating with me calling that person an idiot. Am I missing something here ? Get in get out, that's about it. Using a signal just slows things up ! Traffic circles are common where I live in NY and I use them every day. I see a signal being used maybe once every few months, max. And that's plenty for me...I see absolutely no reason to signal within a circle.
Hey! I am not an idiot!
I use signals in the roundabouts. Most of the time. Especially when cutting across from the inside lane to exit. I am trying to let the person ready to enter know something is going to happen.
In fact, what you say here about finding signals distracting means that those signals get your attention. We serial signalers know that is the best we can hope for. :wave: -- On the other hand, I do not believe anybody's turn signals. I wait that couple of seconds it takes to see if they are going to do what they say they are going to do.
And, yeah, so ya got roundabouts in your hometown. Well, lots of us do not.
So, please, the next time you see a woman driving a white car with Florida plates and signaling her turns in the roundabouts, don't call her an idiot. And don't call her a bumpkin either, even though my city has only one roundabout that I know about. It is in one of the burbs.
Whatinthehellisthematterwithme??? I really do not want to get into an argument with RickeyD or anybody else. (sigh).....Oh, now I remember --I am avoiding cleaning my house.
Boomer
Polar Bear
02-18-2016, 11:17 AM
...what you say here about finding signals distracting means that those signals get your attention...
Very good point. :)
And even if you don't like using signals in the roundabouts, you certainly shouldn't find fault in those that do. If they irritate you, you're probably in too much of a hurry.
Walter123
02-18-2016, 02:19 PM
In our town we have two singles and one double. Nobody signals, and nobody is expected to signal. That's why it's confusing if someone does signal. I mean, it's only seconds from the time you enter till you exit. What's the point ? Everyone knows eventually you're gonna exit so why bother ? It's not a surprise, get it ? :icon_wink:
May I also add that's it's typical to actually accelerate through the circle. Kinda like gaining speed when a space capsule slingshots around a planet.
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As Kramer would say.........Giddy up.
Didn't you say somewhere that you were a retired LEO?
JoMar
02-18-2016, 03:08 PM
Hey! I am not an idiot!
I use signals in the roundabouts. Most of the time. Especially when cutting across from the inside lane to exit. I am trying to let the person ready to enter know something is going to happen.
In fact, what you say here about finding signals distracting means that those signals get your attention. We serial signalers know that is the best we can hope for. :wave: -- On the other hand, I do not believe anybody's turn signals. I wait that couple of seconds it takes to see if they are going to do what they say they are going to do.
And, yeah, so ya got roundabouts in your hometown. Well, lots of us do not.
So, please, the next time you see a woman driving a white car with Florida plates and signaling her turns in the roundabouts, don't call her an idiot. And don't call her a bumpkin either, even though my city has only one roundabout that I know about. It is in one of the burbs.
Whatinthehellisthematterwithme??? I really do not want to get into an argument with RickeyD or anybody else. (sigh).....Oh, now I remember --I am avoiding cleaning my house.
Boomer
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autumnspring
02-18-2016, 04:54 PM
My grandfather taught me to drive. He did an excellent job. For example I am driving down a street, he puts his hand over the rear view mirror and asks me how many cars are behind me, lesson USE YOUR MIRRORS. He taught me ALWAYS use turn signals, I still use these at 2 am in the morning going into our driveway, he would give me heck if I made a turn without using signals. He always told me to expect the unexpected and to ALWAYS have an OUT while you are driving. This advice was invaluable, and unfortunately I have had to use to way too many times in TV.
Golf cart turning LEFT from the GC lane, signals, in front of my car, you must be kidding. Twice in 2 years!!
Idiot in opposing lane stopped to allow GC to cross MM path, just missed having a GC as a hood ornament. PEOPLE, ONLY UNIFORMED OFFICIALS ARE ALLOWED TO DIRECT TRAFFIC.
I cannot count the number of times I have seen people changing lanes in the roundabouts, enter from right lane, go into the center lane in roundabout, then exit to right lane....
And please do not get me started on running RED lights......
Just venting, thank you...............
Simple guide-expect the other driver to do the stupidest possible thing for that is exactly what they will do.
As to signaling-it cost you nothing to do so. It lets others around you know what you intend to do. As others have teased-for me when I see a driver signaling I wait until they have started the turn. Here, even once they start a turn they often change their mind.
As to the roundabouts. READ the traffic rules. It is legal to make a rt turn from the left land. It may be legal BUT IT IS STUPID and there is no need to do it.
Oh, and you can SAFELY ASSume the other driver has not read the rule book in years.
looneycat
02-18-2016, 08:17 PM
Simple guide-expect the other driver to do the stupidest possible thing for that is exactly what they will do.
As to signaling-it cost you nothing to do so. It lets others around you know what you intend to do. As others have teased-for me when I see a driver signaling I wait until they have started the turn. Here, even once they start a turn they often change their mind.
As to the roundabouts. READ the traffic rules. It is legal to make a rt turn from the left land. It may be legal BUT IT IS STUPID and there is no need to do it.
Oh, and you can SAFELY ASSume the other driver has not read the rule book in years.
actually that makes you dangerous. virtually anytime you enter the circle to go 3/4 of the way around you are supposed to turn right from the center (left) lane. the only signal required is when you are exiting.
coffeebean
02-18-2016, 09:39 PM
Ricky, when I enter a roundabout in the left lane with the intention of continuing on straight, I always use my signal at the point I "turn right" to go straight. I do this to let the car behind me to the right, and the driver impatiently entering the circle to my right, know just where I am going. Even when I signal, I'm still cautious.
It's good that you are cautious when you signal because that signal would confuse the heck out of me.
Polar Bear
02-19-2016, 12:08 AM
It's good that you are cautious when you signal because that signal would confuse the heck out of me.
Not sure I'd be so eager to admit that.
coffeebean
02-19-2016, 06:42 AM
Not sure I'd be so eager to admit that.
It's true....no need for directionals in the RABs. I always assume any car in RAB is going to leave the RAB at the next exit. I do not need a directional to alert me to a driver's intention to exit a RAB. Most of the time the darn blinker has been on for who knows how long. I do not trust directionals in RABs or when I'm at a stop sign for that matter.
I drive very defensively, especially in TV RABs. I also never drive in a RAB with any car next to me. I always very my speed so as not to be next to another driver. You just never know what they will do.
Polar Bear
02-19-2016, 09:41 AM
It's true....no need for directionals in the RABs. I always assume any car in RAB is going to leave the RAB at the next exit. I do not need a directional to alert me to a driver's intention to exit a RAB. Most of the time the darn blinker has been on for who knows how long. I do not trust directionals in RABs or when I'm at a stop sign for that matter.
I drive very defensively, especially in TV RABs. I also never drive in a RAB with any car next to me. I always very my speed so as not to be next to another driver. You just never know what they will do.
Just kinda joshing you a little.
I even...to a degree...agree that signals in roundabouts are of minimal value. Although I'm not confused when I see them...heheh. Like you, I simply don't depend on them to predict a driver's actions.
The reason I somewhat agree with you about signals is that I very much agree with you about NEVER driving next to another car in a RAB. If that rule is followed, turn signals are of minimal value and not really necessary. :)
Walter123
02-19-2016, 09:49 AM
I always use my blinker and sometimes I use my arm and sometimes I use one finger.
bagboy
02-19-2016, 10:01 AM
It's good that you are cautious when you signal because that signal would confuse the heck out of me.
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theruizs
02-19-2016, 10:40 AM
You must drive on different highways than me? Ok I may have over estimated. I'll up it to 50%, IMO no where near 90%.
I guess you don't get it. The bend in the road has exit. It's the ones TURNING (exiting) not using they're Blinker lights. If there going straight through they're not turning (exiting) the round about.
Don't tell me you haven't been waiting to enter round about and single right lane car just turns or behind traffic stopped and left lane clear but single right lane just turns when everybody assuming he's going straight. We assume that cause no blinker light was used.
I get what you are saying, and it would be helpful BUT I don't think I would trust the signal light anyway. I ha e been behind more cars and carts here that leave their signal light on unintentionally that I no longer trust them. I don't recall living anywhere else where that was such an issue.
villagetinker
02-19-2016, 10:42 AM
I think I know the reason (at least one of them) for the lack of turn signal use.
There appears to be NO consequences (tickets, or warnings) for not using these.
I have seen several instances of people not using signals, when there was a policeman is a position to see the infraction, nothing done.
Unfortunately, I have also observed the police not using turn signals, the capper was the Sumter County officer that made 2 rights and 2 lefts in front of me without ever using a signal. I have also seen this with EMS vehicles.
So I guess if the general population sees the enforcement personnel not using signals, why should they?
As I stated before I always try to use signals, yes I do forget once in a while, but I have actually gone a block or 2 out of my way, if there was someone behind me and I forgot to signal. I would rather be safe then sorry.
Boomer
02-19-2016, 10:45 AM
I always use my blinker and sometimes I use my arm and sometimes I use one finger.
Oh my!
That last one!
Do you signal the low-key way, from inside the car?
Or do you roll down the window and signal loud and clear, over the roof-top?
Or do you have a convenient sun roof?
Uh........never mind.....just wondering......no reason, no reason...........
Bird-of-a-Feather Boomer
Chatbrat
02-19-2016, 01:12 PM
Almost thinking about getting a marine hailer & having mounted behind my grill-will have lots of fun telling how close some people come to filling their death wish
coffeebean
02-20-2016, 06:13 PM
I always use my blinker and sometimes I use my arm and sometimes I use one finger.
Good one!
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