Cyv

[k2at]

My wife and I are considering purchasing a CYV and have two questions. Are they attached to each other and when inside your Villa can you hear through the walls what is going on next to you. It is not uncommon up North to be able to hear right through the walls to the next apartment.

Tnx, in advance, for responding to this question.

[BBQMan]

I'll bite. What is a cyv? The only definition google could give me was a specialized 1,000 watt bulb. I doubt this is what you were referring to in your question.

[k2at]

Courtyard Villa. Sorry

[JohnnyM]

K2 I have a CYV. Stucco and Block. The villas are not connected. They are individual homes with a courtyard and fence on all sides. The Villas, upscale homes are another story.

[SABRMnLgs]

My wife and I had a CYV for about 5 months and while we truly liked the villa, a bad apple neighbor spoiled it for us. Even though our other neighbors were great. No, the villas are NOT attached and no you cannot hear through the walls as they are about 20-30 feet from your walls. You do sometimes though have to watch for the "lawn nazis" and "driveway police".
Their entire existence seems to be to bother others about things that are not their concern. (You know the type!) Anyway we got a better place for the same monies and our neighbors here mind their own business as do we.


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[Barefoot]

Courtyard Villas are detached houses, not town houses. There are no common walls.

We have a CYV, very quiet, no problem with neighbors. We love the privacy of a Villa. So do our dogs.

I think most neighbors in TV are good neighbors, who are respectful and courteous. But no matter what neighborhood you choose, or what type of home, there is always the possibility of a "bad-apple busy body". And we all pray we don't move near one of those!

[k2at]

Tnx all for the info. As we will be snowbirds until our house sells, a CYV appears to have less maintenance during those months we are not in TV. I am not quite sure why I think they will be less maintenance, but I am going on that assumption now.

[Peachie]

Tnx all for the info. As we will be snowbirds until our house sells, a CYV appears to have less maintenance during those months we are not in TV. I am not quite sure why I think they will be less maintenance, but I am going on that assumption now.
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Actually they may be the same amount of maintenance or perhaps a little more. It's my understanding that one is responsible for the fence surrounding their cyv if maintenance/replacement, is necessary. Can someone in the cyv's verify or correct thisinformation?

[graciegirl]

My wife and I had a CYV for about 5 months and while we truly liked the villa, a bad apple neighbor spoiled it for us. Even though our other neighbors were great. No, the villas are NOT attached and no you cannot hear through the walls as they are about 20-30 feet from your walls. You do sometimes though have to watch for the "lawn nazis" and "driveway police".
Their entire existence seems to be to bother others about things that are not their concern. (You know the type!) Anyway we got a better place for the same monies and our neighbors here mind their own business as do we.


:coolsmiley:

Sab? What does a lawn nazi do? What is the difference between being chatty and getting to know each other and invading each other's privacy?. I want to be a good neighbor and I already have received one shovel use and three pieces of pie and many smiles. I am kinda............talkative. OH dear.:shrug:

[Peachie]

GG, I think a lawn nazi holds one to the covenants of TV's and you don't get to spam the lawn and plug your driveways but I'm not sure. Hopefully, SABRMnLgs will clarify that for us, I'm also curious as to what that means.

[Russ_Boston]

First - the use of the word Nazi is hurtful to some and should not be used if possible on this forum in my opinion. I didn't even want to write it.

I think the definition used here refers to someone who tries to enforce the rules of the TV deed restrictions and I don't see why that should be an issue. Everyone signs the rules when they close on their home - no surprises.

K2at - Check out the TV website for current used/new homes (including CYV's) and you can see that they are not attached and some new ones have no grass to cut every week so less maintenance.

http://www.thevillages.com/homes/vls/index_new.asp
http://www.thevillages.com/Homes/new.asp

[Barefoot]

We have a CYV and replaced most of our grass with river rock to ensure we'd have low maintenance during the months we are absent. :shrug:

But it is Florida, and we've found that weeds grow on and around rock! So now, in the months we are absent, instead of paying someone to cut the lawn, we pay someone to weed and cut the bit of lawn we keep for our dogs.

Also, I am amazed at how vigorously shrubs grow in Florida. Some grew three feet in the six months we were gone.

I think is is almost impossible to have no maintenance unless you concrete everything over.

[Peachie]

Good call on "that word", Russ and I didn't like it as I typed it either. :agree: I am still interested to know if cyv owners are responsible for maintaining/replacing damaged fences surrounding their yards.

[Russ_Boston]

I've seen other posts on here (especially near the time of the tornado) that indicate that YES the CYV owners are responsible for the fences/walls. I would assume that a shared wall/fence would be shared cost as well.

[SABRMnLgs]

I will leave it up to each individual to draw their own conclusion here but it kind of gets the idea across.

Grab your Webster's Collegiate and look up these three words:

A: Nazi
B: fascist
C: autocratic

Now forget about the political arena in which these words were spawned and try to loosely apply the total definition of the three to one's own lawn.
You may agree or you may disagree. Which is fine as that is the way we are brought up, free thinkers.

[Russ_Boston]

Webster - Shmepster

You know the connotation of the word when it is used in that fashion. The way you are using it grew out of the political party and the control that they attempted to exert and the horror that they brought to this world towards that end.

I wasn't trying to call you out or anything, I just wanted to voice my opinion that would could refrain from words that may hurt others. If you feel comfortable using it in that fashion then you have every right. Let's just say that it is not a phrase that I prefer to use.

And just because you asked this is from dictionary.com - I like how #3 says "sometimes offense" and you did use it lowercase.

1. a member of the National Socialist German Workers' party of Germany, which in 1933, under Adolf Hitler, seized political control of the country, suppressing all opposition and establishing a dictatorship over all cultural, economic, and political activities of the people, and promulgated belief in the supremacy of Hitler as F�hrer, aggressive anti-Semitism, the natural supremacy of the German people, and the establishment of Germany by superior force as a dominant world power. The party was officially abolished in 1945 at the conclusion of World War II.

2. (often lowercasehttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png) a person elsewhere who holds similar views.

3. Sometimes Offensive. (often lowercasehttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png) a person who is fanatically dedicated to or seeks to control a specified activity, practice, etc.: a jazz nazi who disdains other forms of music; tobacco nazis trying to ban smoking.

[graciegirl]

Sab.

It was you that had problems with the rules being enforced about knick knacks in the yard in your previous home here in TV and you moved because of dissension about it? ( Or at least this problem entered into it?)

I went back to see some of your other posts and see that you are a musician and you practice your trumpet on the lanai?

I would imagine that a good musician would find it difficult to hear off key renditions of music or bad singing or poor efforts to perform. Some of My toddler grandsons first words to me were "NO sing Grammy". He has become an excellent musician with a good ear.

Some of us with some talents in the art field have similar sensitivities about lack of beauty and our eyes are offended by overdone and awkward placements of visual items that we must look at each day and over which we have no control.

I think that both an improperly played musical piece and an ugly front yard offend each sensitivity like screeching your nails on a chalkboard.

I think that the rules here are sensible and protect all of us.

I am not trying to "stir the pot", only trying to look at it from all sides.

[SABRMnLgs]

Grace......... you must have misread my data about music on the lanai. As I recall, someone was upset about loud music on their lanai. I stated that, "as a musician", I would never expose anyone to any loud sounds, including music from my horn as it might bother some people. I never have nor will I ever expose other peoples ears to my playing unless asked to do so or if they come to one of the concerts or Swing Band gigs.

As far as lawn nazis: my definition goes something like this. A person or persons who form an authoratative group with the underlying principles to make eveyone talk, act, dress, feel and maintain their areas just as they think they should be. No room for individuality or opposition. "We made a set of rules and you must obey them or suffer the consequences". Only thing is, I had no say in the making of any of these rules. I was never given the opportunity to vote on anything. Suppression of individuality combined with sn autocratic group of people is as the beginning of George Orwell's book.
And as someone writes all the time quoting Dennis Milller, "........ but that's only my opinion."
Enough on this. Back to court-yard villas.


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[graciegirl]

Grace......... you must have misread my data about music on the lanai. As I recall, someone was upset about loud music on their lanai. I stated that, "as a musician", I would never expose anyone to any loud sounds, including music from my horn as it might bother some people. I never have nor will I ever expose other peoples ears to my playing unless asked to do so or if they come to one of the concerts or Swing Band gigs.

As far as lawn nazis: my definition goes something like this. A person or persons who form an authoratative group with the underlying principles to make eveyone talk, act, dress, feel and maintain their areas just as they think they should be. No room for individuality or opposition. "We made a set of rules and you must obey them or suffer the consequences". Only thing is, I had no say in the making of any of these rules. I was never given the opportunity to vote on anything. Suppression of individuality combined with sn autocratic group of people is as the beginning of George Orwell's book.
And as someone writes all the time quoting Dennis Milller, "........ but that's only my opinion."
Enough on this. Back to court-yard villas.


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I apologize for my incorrect remarks. That is what happens here sometimes. Conclusions are jumped too.

However Sab, we did get a chance to vote. We could choose or not choose to live here.

[Russ_Boston]

Jerry - just wondering. Are you saying that when you moved here you did not sign (and thereby agree) to the rules? Of were you living here already without any rules and they were thrust upon you. As I said I'm just curious.

Also curious from the rest of the crew: Do the covenants allow ANY freedom of expression?

[joe kaelin]

k2AT, etc.: Looking at a CYV from the front street, the rear fence dividing the property on the left side of the house belongs to the house to the left. Likewise the rear fence dividing the property on the right side of your yard is your responsibility. Now for the confusing part; the gate to the left of your CYV is your gate, which is the entrance to your side and rear yard, and the gate on the right side of your house is your neighbors access and is his/her responsibility. When we got hit with "Mr. Tornado" in February '07, we had to replace the left side gate and fence on the right side only, since those belonged to us. As for the cement walls, you are responsible for the care and maintenance of the side of the wall facing your yard. Now, I'm sure you're really confused, nevertheless, I think you will enjoy a CYV, we really do.

[Barefoot]

I am still interested to know if cyv owners are responsible for maintaining/replacing damaged fences surrounding their yards.

Yes Peachie.

[bobolink46]

We are just about to buy a cyv. what did they complain about on your driveway. I can't imagine.