Trash around

[mysunshine1948]

I am new to The Villages and was happy to see that it is well kept and seemed to be clean. However, being a walker, I have noticed a lot of trash along the roadways and in the grass next to the roads and golf cart roads. I counted hundreds of cigarette butts in a short distance, along with empty water bottles and smashed pop cans, among other things.
This is disappointing. I have also noticed very unfriendly workers in restaurants. I am wondering if moving here was a bad idea!

[twoas1@comcast.net]

you'll notice it sometimes. But heck, there are so many people here at this time of year and lots of wind. There are no cigarette butts and no mosquitos or bugs. Lots of sunshine and great restauants, and good music.

[asianthree]

I am new to The Villages and was happy to see that it is well kept and seemed to be clean. However, being a walker, I have noticed a lot of trash along the roadways and in the grass next to the roads and golf cart roads. I counted hundreds of cigarette butts in a short distance, along with empty water bottles and smashed pop cans, among other things.
This is disappointing. I have also noticed very unfriendly workers in restaurants. I am wondering if moving here was a bad idea!

I see this is your first post. So sorry you are unhappy. The hundreds of cigarette butts in a short distance seems odd. But on the up swing how do you like your new home and neighbors.:welcome:

[rubicon]

I am new to The Villages and was happy to see that it is well kept and seemed to be clean. However, being a walker, I have noticed a lot of trash along the roadways and in the grass next to the roads and golf cart roads. I counted hundreds of cigarette butts in a short distance, along with empty water bottles and smashed pop cans, among other things.
This is disappointing. I have also noticed very unfriendly workers in restaurants. I am wondering if moving here was a bad idea!

mysunshine: Welcome! You will discover three tribes that participate on this forum. Those that can't bear any critique of The Villages and that includes its Developer and Chief, those that offer a critique and those that simply don't care because they are retired.

Unlike the man in the movie I can handle the truth, and the only way I know one can go about resolving a problem is at first acknowledging that there is one. I happen to agree with you concerning the issue of too much trash. This is especially disconcerting since we pay so much for the seasonal replanting of flowers, etc. We obviously have not reached near the trash problem you find in many larger northern cities but with the increasing population it is becoming more noticeable .

Dog owners are required to clean up after their dog and so you would believe that people have an obligation to clean up after themselves and especially not litter. But you and I would be wrong.

I have not experienced a problem with restaurant workers and find most village employees cheerful and accommodating.

It will take you a bit of time to adjust to your new surroundings as you are well aware Again welcome and enjoy all The Villages has to offer.

Personal Best Regards:

[Walter123]

I am wondering if moving here was a bad idea!

Why would you ask that question? Only you know the answer. No one on this site can answer it for you.

[Marathon Man]

Welcome.

The Villages is a great place, full of great people. I'm sure that you saw that for yourself as you decided to come here. I hope a bit of trash along the road will not tarnish your enjoyment of your new home. Just swing you eyes upward towards the golf courses and beautiful landscaping.

As far as this forum goes, you will soon see for yourself that there are all types of folks with many points of view, and many attitudes. Enjoy.

[golfing eagles]

I am new to The Villages and was happy to see that it is well kept and seemed to be clean. However, being a walker, I have noticed a lot of trash along the roadways and in the grass next to the roads and golf cart roads. I counted hundreds of cigarette butts in a short distance, along with empty water bottles and smashed pop cans, among other things.
This is disappointing. I have also noticed very unfriendly workers in restaurants. I am wondering if moving here was a bad idea!

Sorry to hear that. Generally, this place is extremely clean and well kept. Remember, "the developer" did not throw those cans and butts there, people did. It's hard for a few maintenance workers to be everywhere, all the time. There are plenty of people who are just cutting through on the main roads and plenty of construction/lawn maintenance trucks that I have personally seen throw trash out the windows. The wind can do the rest. It won't be long before we see a post here blaming it on "the renters" either. But if the presence/absence of a limited amount of trash is number one on your list of criteria for living in a particular location, you would be hard pressed to find a cleaner place. Perhaps a level 4 containment lab at the CDC.

As far as the restaurant workers go, I find 90+% are friendly and helpful--remember they do rely on tips. Yes, there is an occasional grouch, or someone is just having a bad day, but overall you will encounter a lot less of them than you would at Junior's in Brooklyn! Also, base your impression of eating establishments on personal experience, certainly not TOTV where the chronic complainers tend to dominate restaurant threads.

If you make a list of the positives and negatives of TV, I think you'll find the scales dramatically tip in favor of this place. (And no, I don't work for TV, and neither do I have a lifetime membership in GG's posse, this is just my opinion, for what it is worth)

[Allegiance]

mysunshine: Welcome! You will discover three tribes that participate on this forum. Those that can't bear any critique of The Villages and that includes its Developer and Chief, those that offer a critique and those that simply don't care because they are retired.

Unlike the man in the movie I can handle the truth, and the only way I know one can go about resolving a problem is at first acknowledging that there is one. I happen to agree with you concerning the issue of too much trash. This is especially disconcerting since we pay so much for the seasonal replanting of flowers, etc. We obviously have not reached near the trash problem you find in many larger northern cities but with the increasing population it is becoming more noticeable .

Dog owners are required to clean up after their dog and so you would believe that people have an obligation to clean up after themselves and especially not litter. But you and I would be wrong.

I have not experienced a problem with restaurant workers and find most village employees cheerful and accommodating.

It will take you a bit of time to adjust to your new surroundings as you are well aware Again welcome and enjoy all The Villages has to offer.

Personal Best Regards:
I believe there is one more tribe, a tribe of trolls that have a vested interest in saying negative untruths about the villages. Perhaps they own or are affliated with a competing community. The very occasional bottle or can I have seen on golf cart paths are likely ones that have fallen from moving golf carts and it's clear they have been on the path a short time. I dispise cigarette butts, occasionally see some, and think those people should be ticketed. The villages are super clean, especially considering it's not actually a gated community.

To the OP, congratulations on your 1st post. In what community do you actually live?

[Fred R]

If the new residents are questioning whether it was wise to move here because of a little liter, maybe they should ask the question where in the world would they live where there isn't any liter. Singapore maybe. I think they disadvantages of moving to Singapore would out way the great advantages of The Villages. Just IMHO

[RickeyD]

Generally speaking, smokers do not consider a cigarette butt a smelly piece of trash hence they think nothing of tossing it wherever they want.

[VApeople]

I am wondering if moving here was a bad idea!

Why would you ask that question? Only you know the answer. No one on this site can answer it for you.

Walter, I like your attitude. People can wonder about whatever they want, but don't expect any of us to make any attempt to help them to make up their mind. We have to be able to think for ourselves and reach our own conclusions.

[Walter123]

If the new residents are questioning whether it was wise to move here because of a little liter, maybe they should ask the question where in the world would they live where there isn't any liter. Singapore maybe. I think they disadvantages of moving to Singapore would out way the great advantages of The Villages. Just IMHO

What he said,:BigApplause:

[Walter123]

Generally speaking, smokers do not consider a cigarette butt a smelly piece of trash hence they think nothing of tossing it wherever they want.

I agree. It's a disgusting dirty, habit but it's a free country (so far). For the most part, this place is the cleanest place I've ever lived.

[HimandMe]

mysunshine: Welcome! You will discover three tribes that participate on this forum. Those that can't bear any critique of The Villages and that includes its Developer and Chief, those that offer a critique and those that simply don't care because they are retired.

Unlike the man in the movie I can handle the truth, and the only way I know one can go about resolving a problem is at first acknowledging that there is one. I happen to agree with you concerning the issue of too much trash. This is especially disconcerting since we pay so much for the seasonal replanting of flowers, etc. We obviously have not reached near the trash problem you find in many larger northern cities but with the increasing population it is becoming more noticeable .

Dog owners are required to clean up after their dog and so you would believe that people have an obligation to clean up after themselves and especially not litter. But you and I would be wrong.

I have not experienced a problem with restaurant workers and find most village employees cheerful and accommodating.

It will take you a bit of time to adjust to your new surroundings as you are well aware Again welcome and enjoy all The Villages has to offer.

Personal Best Regards:

Oh my, there are more than three probably as many as there are people including those who are deficit detectives....always looking for something out of place to point out to others. What you look for, you will find....birds and sunshine or the guy scratching his butt.

[John_W]

Since you're new and you walk, then you probably live in one of the newer areas? You would of saw the same had you walked down St. Charles Place between 2009 to 2012, a lot of thrash. That's when the Villages of St. James, Tamarind Grove, Buttonwood and Pennecamp were being built. All new construction areas are messy for some time. Now in 2016 drive north on Buena Vista and cross CR466A and at the first traffic circle exit onto St. Charles Place and tell me what you see now. Go all the way up to the red light on Bailey's Trail. What you'll see is all those same villages are spotsless. Your area will be that way in a couple of years, it takes time.

[Bogie Shooter]

I am new to The Villages and was happy to see that it is well kept and seemed to be clean. However, being a walker, I have noticed a lot of trash along the roadways and in the grass next to the roads and golf cart roads. I counted hundreds of cigarette butts in a short distance, along with empty water bottles and smashed pop cans, among other things.
This is disappointing. I have also noticed very unfriendly workers in restaurants. I am wondering if moving here was a bad idea!

Since you did not say where you saw all this trash, I am going to assume you moved into a new area where there is a lot of construction happening.
Those of un "North" of you experienced this during construction. A lot of busy people are moving around and some have bad habits of tossing stuff out the window of their trucks. This will all correct itself(it did in my village) when the construction stops.
If encountering a few unfriendly workers is a new experience (did you not have similar types where you came from) and makes you feel it was a bad idea to move to The Villages....................you have more of a problem than any poster can help you with.

[Jima64]

One of the worst offenders are people tossing trash like soda cans, coffee cups etc. in the backmof work trucks. Smokers are rightbup there too. Look around at any intersection with stoplights.

[outlaw]

I am new to The Villages and was happy to see that it is well kept and seemed to be clean. However, being a walker, I have noticed a lot of trash along the roadways and in the grass next to the roads and golf cart roads. I counted hundreds of cigarette butts in a short distance, along with empty water bottles and smashed pop cans, among other things.
This is disappointing. I have also noticed very unfriendly workers in restaurants. I am wondering if moving here was a bad idea!

You have broken a couple of posting rules. It is your first post. Therefore, according to the unwritten hierarchy rule, you have no standing and you should not post anything in the least bit critical of anything related to TV. Period. Even if you had 500 posts, you have offended (no, outraged) the koolaid drinkers that bristle at any comment critical of TV fairyland. It really doesn't matter if your comment is true. It will still be dismissed by some as chronic complaining, or having an ulterior motive, or untrue. Yes, your buyers remorse may be setting in. But give it a little more time. After you get used to the crowds, the long lines, the rude golf cart drivers, the entitled cyclists, the clueless roundabout drivers, the hidden dump smell, the frequent sinkholes, the seat savers (they are all non-TVers by the way), the lack of easily accessible healthcare, I think you will decide TV is a nice place.:welcome:

[dave harris]

I agree. It's a disgusting dirty, habit but it's a free country (so far). For the most part, this place is the cleanest place I've ever lived.

Is it a free country to litter, thats what they are doing when they throw a cigarette to the ground.

[graciegirl]

Since you did not say where you saw all this trash, I am going to assume you moved into a new area where there is a lot of construction happening.
Those of un "North" of you experienced this during construction. A lot of busy people are moving around and some have bad habits of tossing stuff out the window of their trucks. This will all correct itself(it did in my village) when the construction stops.
If encountering a few unfriendly workers is a new experience (did you not have similar types where you came from) and makes you feel it was a bad idea to move to The Villages....................you have more of a problem than any poster can help you with.



You see this poster here? I have NEVER met him but I have read all of his posts over about nine years. Only once or twice have I disagreed with him. It is my belief that he has an excellent head on his shoulders and he is rarely wrong.


You probably live near where workers drive back and forth near new construction of homes. They build very nice houses but their mothers didn't smack 'em good when they missed the waste basket....and....AND, it isn't their home town so they don't care like we do.


I would like to go on record once again as being very confident that this is one of the nicest kept places on this earth and I am pretty sure WHO is responsible.


It is gonna be ANOTHER beautiful day in The Villages and yesterday I met some folks who made me so happy.

[Walter123]

Is it a free country to litter, thats what they are doing when they throw a cigarette to the ground.

It's a free country to smoke not litter. Sorry I didn't spell it out clearer.

[Walter123]

You probably live near where workers drive back and forth near new construction of homes. They build very nice houses but their mothers didn't smack 'em good when they missed the waste basket....and....AND, it isn't their home town so they don't care like we do.


I would like to go on record once again as being very confident that this is one of the nicest kept places on this earth and I am pretty sure WHO is responsible.


It is gonna be ANOTHER beautiful day in The Villages and yesterday I met some folks who made me so happy.

Smacking children is a terrible thing to do. It's called child abuse. For those of you that grew up in households like that, and I am one of them, know that it causes more damage than good. Very sore subject for me and it shouldn't be talked about so lightly. I know you didn't mean anything by it, but still.....

[birdawg]

You have broken a couple of posting rules. It is your first post. Therefore, according to the unwritten hierarchy rule, you have no standing and you should not post anything in the least bit critical of anything related to TV. Period. Even if you had 500 posts, you have offended (no, outraged) the koolaid drinkers that bristle at any comment critical of TV fairyland. It really doesn't matter if your comment is true. It will still be dismissed by some as chronic complaining, or having an ulterior motive, or untrue. Yes, your buyers remorse may be setting in. But give it a little more time. After you get used to the crowds, the long lines, the rude golf cart drivers, the entitled cyclists, the clueless roundabout drivers, the hidden dump smell, the frequent sinkholes, the seat savers (they are all non-TVers by the way), the lack of easily accessible healthcare, I think you will decide TV is a nice place.:welcome:
Glad to see they let your post stay. They have been taking my posts down when I comment about the dump.

[Bogie Shooter]

Glad to see they let your post stay. They have been taking my posts down when I comment about the dump.

Wonder why? There are a number of open threads that have posts regarding the dump.
BTW, who do you think "they" are?

[rhood]

Why don't you just bend over and pick them up instead of whining about it?

[Buffalo Jim]

Why don't you just bend over and pick them up instead of whining about it?

I make it a practice on my neighborhood walks and also while driving my golf-cart to stop and pick up any litter I encounter .
Just my way of trying to be a good neighbor to all and also to show respect for our wonderful community .

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I'm going to have to get me a seeing eye dog because I walk around my neighborhood, ride my bicycle a lot, drive my golf cart everywhere and I see very little litter. That doesn't mean that there is none at all, but I certainly see less than I have seen in any other place I've lived.

In fact when I do see litter, I'm taken aback because it looks so out of place.

Not saying that the OP is seeing things. Maybe like someone said, there are a lot of construction crews going through here area.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

mysunshine: Welcome! You will discover three tribes that participate on this forum. Those that can't bear any critique of The Villages and that includes its Developer and Chief, those that offer a critique and those that simply don't care because they are retired.

Unlike the man in the movie I can handle the truth, and the only way I know one can go about resolving a problem is at first acknowledging that there is one. I happen to agree with you concerning the issue of too much trash. This is especially disconcerting since we pay so much for the seasonal replanting of flowers, etc. We obviously have not reached near the trash problem you find in many larger northern cities but with the increasing population it is becoming more noticeable .

Dog owners are required to clean up after their dog and so you would believe that people have an obligation to clean up after themselves and especially not litter. But you and I would be wrong.

I have not experienced a problem with restaurant workers and find most village employees cheerful and accommodating.

It will take you a bit of time to adjust to your new surroundings as you are well aware Again welcome and enjoy all The Villages has to offer.

Personal Best Regards:

You forgot a fourth tribe. Those who see little imperfections and blow them way out of proportion.

I remember threads about how the historic district was falling apart and was full of unkempt, dilapidated, abandoned homes. The fact is that there are a few of those homes here, but for the most part, the homes are very well kept.

I've seen countless other threads about various horrible wide spread conditions only to find that it's a small issue blown way out of proportion.

I'm not a shill for the developer, but I think that overall, they've done a great job. No place is perfect but this is as good as any place I've ever been.

I'm not saying that this is the case with the OP. I'm sure that she walks in an area that is littered but, from my observations, places like that are few and far between and usually temporary.

[Barefoot]

You will discover three tribes that participate on this forum. Those that can't bear any critique of The Villages and that includes its Developer and Chief, those that offer a critique and those that simply don't care because they are retired.

I believe there is one more tribe, a tribe of trolls that have a vested interest in saying negative untruths about the villages.

You have broken a couple of posting rules. It is your first post. Therefore, according to the unwritten hierarchy rule, you have no standing and you should not post anything in the least bit critical of anything related to TV. Period. Even if you had 500 posts, you have offended (no, outraged) the koolaid drinkers that bristle at any comment critical of TV fairyland. It really doesn't matter if your comment is true. It will still be dismissed by some as chronic complaining, or having an ulterior motive, or untrue.

Welcome to The Villages and to the TOTV Forum.
With your first thread about litter, you have discovered that the Forum can be controversial with many people offering different perspectives.
And lots of wonderful information available here!
For the most part, The Villages is beautifully maintained.
You've moved to a great Community. I hope you enjoy the beauty as much as we do!

[goodtimesintv]

Just another testimonial.....this is the cleanest city of this size (115,000 +/-) or of any size we've ever seen.

The only place where I've seen "some" litter is under the golf cart bridge on Morse northbound by Hope Lutheran Church, in the gully underneath full of brush, where nobody can/should go to retrieve the few water/soda bottles or cans (unless they're employed by district government).

The bridge's two lanes are so narrow it's treacherous, so a cart driver really shouldn't be reaching to grab something flying out. Empty plastic water/soda bottles are feather-weight and do fly away from a cart. It's certainly not worth toppling the cart into the gully below.

Have not seen the cigarette butts in number.

If a restaurant worker is inept or neglectful/rude, that is everywhere because of the increasingly rude society we're in, IMO.

Overall it's hard to imagine someone questioning their choice of place to live based on the things in the first post.

[debow]

Lived and traveled all over our great country and nowhere have I experienced a cleaner and better maintained community! Glad to be here!

[joldnol]

as others have stated, most of the trash is from construction.....it has diminished greatly in Dunedin but the butts at the pool/mailboxes is still a problem. Much of the butt issue is construction too......they use our pool's restroom all day and when the lunch wagons were parked in the area they would wash their utensils in the restrooms too. When we complained we were told by the district that pools were public areas and workmen/women had a right to access to them. The one thing that stymied me with that attitude is why do I still need my ID when I use the pool?

[Jaggy]

I have to giggle and then wonder how many of these "posters" have numerous accounts.. the OP first "posting" sure got the replies.. Imagine that... Hmmmmm...

[asianthree]

I have to giggle and then wonder how many of these "posters" have numerous accounts.. the OP first "posting" sure got the replies.. Imagine that... Hmmmmm...

A negative post, from a first poster is usually noticed by those who love this place and hope others do also. If there is a problem many will join in to try to fix it

[Polar Bear]

...I am wondering if moving here was a bad idea!

Why would you ask that question?...

What question?

[Thnonne]

I am new to The Villages and was happy to see that it is well kept and seemed to be clean. However, being a walker, I have noticed a lot of trash along the roadways and in the grass next to the roads and golf cart roads. I counted hundreds of cigarette butts in a short distance, along with empty water bottles and smashed pop cans, among other things.
This is disappointing. I have also noticed very unfriendly workers in restaurants. I am wondering if moving here was a bad idea!

I have lived here for ten years and not seen this type of problem. Seems to me someone is exaggerating for effect, " a LOT of trash," "HUNDREDS of cigarette butts." I challenge anyone to find a city of the size of The Villages that maintains as clean of trash environment as The Villages.

[Retiring]

Where there are people you will find litter and rudeness, it’s all a matter of degree. A perfect, litter free, rude free, place does not exist on earth. During my short visit to TV I would say it’s better than most locations. TV is at the better end of the scale. IMO.

[Walter123]

What question?

That question.

[Polar Bear]

That question.

And what question is that?

[golfing eagles]

You have broken a couple of posting rules. It is your first post. Therefore, according to the unwritten hierarchy rule, you have no standing and you should not post anything in the least bit critical of anything related to TV. Period. Even if you had 500 posts, you have offended (no, outraged) the koolaid drinkers that bristle at any comment critical of TV fairyland. It really doesn't matter if your comment is true. It will still be dismissed by some as chronic complaining, or having an ulterior motive, or untrue. Yes, your buyers remorse may be setting in. But give it a little more time. After you get used to the crowds, the long lines, the rude golf cart drivers, the entitled cyclists, the clueless roundabout drivers, the hidden dump smell, the frequent sinkholes, the seat savers (they are all non-TVers by the way), the lack of easily accessible healthcare, I think you will decide TV is a nice place.:welcome:

Very optimistic. Could you tell me if my glass is half full or half empty?

[Yosemite]

Did you know that there are suggestion forms and boxes for depositing them? I suggested that trash cans be installed along the multi-modal paths. I did get a response! The response was "Janet T(?? Can't remember her last name) doesn't want them" So, there's your answer. Trash cans are bad. Trash is good.
As for questioning your decision to move here, you probably made a mistake. I suggest you relocate quickly. That will allow someone who wants a house here to get a good deal. And while you are busy selling, that will be 1 or 2 fewer people competing for tee times and slots in crowded activities. Buh-bye!

[golfing eagles]

Did you know that there are suggestion forms and boxes for depositing them? I suggested that trash cans be installed along the multi-modal paths. I did get a response! The response was "Janet T(?? Can't remember her last name) doesn't want them" So, there's your answer. Trash cans are bad. Trash is good.
As for questioning your decision to move here, you probably made a mistake. I suggest you relocate quickly. That will allow someone who wants a house here to get a good deal. And while you are busy selling, that will be 1 or 2 fewer people competing for tee times and slots in crowded activities. Buh-bye!

Nice. OP, please ignore that.:blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

[Bogie Shooter]

Did you know that there are suggestion forms and boxes for depositing them? I suggested that trash cans be installed along the multi-modal paths. I did get a response! The response was "Janet T(?? Can't remember her last name) doesn't want them" So, there's your answer. Trash cans are bad. Trash is good.
As for questioning your decision to move here, you probably made a mistake. I suggest you relocate quickly. That will allow someone who wants a house here to get a good deal. And while you are busy selling, that will be 1 or 2 fewer people competing for tee times and slots in crowded activities. Buh-bye!

Trash cans would look trashy. Additional expense for collecting the trash from the cans, if( and that's a big if) people would use the can.
BTW about how many would have to be placed. I agree with Janet Tutt.

[Walter123]

And what question is that?

Silly.

[Walter123]

Trash cans would look trashy. Additional expense for collecting the trash from the cans, if( and that's a big if) people would use the can.
BTW about how many would have to be placed. I agree with Janet Tutt.

Besides that, the bears would get into them.
They don't call her King Tutt for nothing!

[asianthree]

Very optimistic. Could you tell me if my glass is half full or half empty?

Glass is half no mater which way you look at it. :1rotfl:

[Polar Bear]

Silly.
Yep. But at least it was a question. :1rotfl:

[Polar Bear]

...Could you tell me if my glass is half full or half empty?
Yes. It is. :1rotfl:

[Walter123]

Yep. But at least it was a question. :1rotfl:

Maybe it's me, but I don't get your point. :loco:

[Polar Bear]

Maybe it's me, but I don't get your point. :loco:
That's been apparent all along.

[Walt.]

Maybe it's me, but I don't get your point. :loco:

Hi Folks,
Just to make it clear... this is NOT me.

As for the glass being half full or half empty?
It's half full of Flint Michigan tap water.
Glad to help.

[HimandMe]

new post idea:

Helpful Hints
Cigarette Butts...nice guys/gals snuff them out and dispose them at home - vs
Etc

[RickeyD]

I am new to The Villages and was happy to see that it is well kept and seemed to be clean. However, being a walker, I have noticed a lot of trash along the roadways and in the grass next to the roads and golf cart roads. I counted hundreds of cigarette butts in a short distance, along with empty water bottles and smashed pop cans, among other things.

This is disappointing. I have also noticed very unfriendly workers in restaurants. I am wondering if moving here was a bad idea!


I haven't noticed hardly any trash at all. Cleanest place in the USA, cleaner than Disney World.
Who cares if the restaurant workers are rude, haven't seen that here either.
Are you sure you live in the Villages ? My Villages in the one northwest of Orlando and just south of Ocala.

[outlaw]

Very optimistic. Could you tell me if my glass is half full or half empty?

thank you. and the answer to your question is both, of course.

[jgm3279]

My postal station is littered with cigarette butts in front on the ground when there are SEVERAL trash bins with tops to leave their butts.....don't understand.

[Bogie Shooter]

My postal station is littered with cigarette butts in front on the ground when there are SEVERAL trash bins with tops to leave their butts.....don't understand.

What postal station?

[Walter123]

Hi Folks,
Just to make it clear... this is NOT me.

As for the glass being half full or half empty?
It's half full of Flint Michigan tap water.
Glad to help.

Touché

[leftyf]

My postal station is littered with cigarette butts in front on the ground when there are SEVERAL trash bins with tops to leave their butts.....don't understand.

I think filter cigarettes should be banned. Unfiltered cigarettes decompose a lot faster.

[Greg Nelson]

I quit smoking

[dbussone]

I quit smoking

Way to go Greg. Congratulations.

[graciegirl]

I am new to The Villages and was happy to see that it is well kept and seemed to be clean. However, being a walker, I have noticed a lot of trash along the roadways and in the grass next to the roads and golf cart roads. I counted hundreds of cigarette butts in a short distance, along with empty water bottles and smashed pop cans, among other things.
This is disappointing. I have also noticed very unfriendly workers in restaurants. I am wondering if moving here was a bad idea!



SO......welcome to the forum. Tell us about you, snookums, other than your remarkable trait of starting a conversation with strangers.

[John_W]

My postal station is littered with cigarette butts in front on the ground when there are SEVERAL trash bins with tops to leave their butts.....don't understand.

My postal station is six years old and we only have one trash bin and no cigarette butts or any thrash. Bogie asked yesterday, what postal station? I'm curious to know also.

[golfing eagles]

My postal station is six years old and we only have one trash bin and no cigarette butts or any thrash. Bogie asked yesterday, what postal station? I'm curious to know also.

I would guess one of the newer ones where construction workers frequently visit. There are also lawn trucks with trailers that park at some and chit-chat while throwing butts out of windows

[rubicon]

I believe there is one more tribe, a tribe of trolls that have a vested interest in saying negative untruths about the villages. Perhaps they own or are affliated with a competing community. The very occasional bottle or can I have seen on golf cart paths are likely ones that have fallen from moving golf carts and it's clear they have been on the path a short time. I dispise cigarette butts, occasionally see some, and think those people should be ticketed. The villages are super clean, especially considering it's not actually a gated community.

To the OP, congratulations on your 1st post. In what community do you actually live?

Allegiance: The trolls you referenced from outside the village are not a village tribe. As to cigarette butts I find them in front of my home and believe some resident walking feels my yard is his/her ashtray.

We maintain our home in a manner that it would always be ready for an open house should we desire to sell it. so any kind of trash bothers me.

[rubicon]

Oh my, there are more than three probably as many as there are people including those who are deficit detectives....always looking for something out of place to point out to others. What you look for, you will find....birds and sunshine or the guy scratching his butt.

HimanandMe: And you better thank your lucky stars because those are the type of people that call the cops when a prowler is about or community watch
when there is a utility problem etc and yes those they see poorly kept homes etc. If people didn't complain we still be flying Britians flag. heck we still be living in caves. count your blessings

[rubicon]

You have broken a couple of posting rules. It is your first post. Therefore, according to the unwritten hierarchy rule, you have no standing and you should not post anything in the least bit critical of anything related to TV. Period. Even if you had 500 posts, you have offended (no, outraged) the koolaid drinkers that bristle at any comment critical of TV fairyland. It really doesn't matter if your comment is true. It will still be dismissed by some as chronic complaining, or having an ulterior motive, or untrue. Yes, your buyers remorse may be setting in. But give it a little more time. After you get used to the crowds, the long lines, the rude golf cart drivers, the entitled cyclists, the clueless roundabout drivers, the hidden dump smell, the frequent sinkholes, the seat savers (they are all non-TVers by the way), the lack of easily accessible healthcare, I think you will decide TV is a nice place.:welcome:

outlaw: There are people here who confuse disagreement with disloyalty. Say anything less than TV and the Developer represent perfection and :boom: Even pointing to God's imperfections gets a pass..but TV. Its just plain silly

[rubicon]

You forgot a fourth tribe. Those who see little imperfections and blow them way out of proportion.

I remember threads about how the historic district was falling apart and was full of unkempt, dilapidated, abandoned homes. The fact is that there are a few of those homes here, but for the most part, the homes are very well kept.

I've seen countless other threads about various horrible wide spread conditions only to find that it's a small issue blown way out of proportion.

I'm not a shill for the developer, but I think that overall, they've done a great job. No place is perfect but this is as good as any place I've ever been.

I'm not saying that this is the case with the OP. I'm sure that she walks in an area that is littered but, from my observations, places like that are few and far between and usually temporary.

Doc: I agree but we also have the other extreme, those who cannot tolerate any reference to imperfections and view it has an assault against TV and the Developer. I feel no compulsion to defend either. My first post pointed out the three tribes because as sure as night follows day the three tribes would be aroused . There is more trash found now than when I first moved here and my statement was qualified by explaining we have had an increase in population so it would follow. Perhaps many would prefer that I say TV is the most beautiful and fun filled venue on earth that is as worthy as if God developed himself. Geezzz

[golfing eagles]

outlaw: There are people here who confuse disagreement with disloyalty. Say anything less than TV and the Developer represent perfection and :boom: Even pointing to God's imperfections gets a pass..but TV. Its just plain silly

Beach Boys, 1965 "Be True to Your School" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[coffeebean]

I've noticed every time there is a lot of wind, many palm fronds come down everywhere. I take note of how long it takes for the clean up crew to pick up all those fronds from everywhere. Within three days, this lovely community looks pristine again and all the downed debris from the trees is gone. I have to hand it to the landscape crews to do a fine job keeping our community so lovely.

I also notice if a wayward palm frond falls from a tree in the roadway at any time, not necessarily from wind, the frond is usually gone by the time I pass by again. They really stay on top of keeping our community clean.

As for cigarette butts......who smokes anymore? Certainly not the majority of seniors who live here. Wonder who is throwing out cigarette butts on the roadway and paths?

[outlaw]

Doc: I agree but we also have the other extreme, those who cannot tolerate any reference to imperfections and view it has an assault against TV and the Developer. I feel no compulsion to defend either. My first post pointed out the three tribes because as sure as night follows day the three tribes would be aroused . There is more trash found now than when I first moved here and my statement was qualified by explaining we have had an increase in population so it would follow. Perhaps many would prefer that I say TV is the most beautiful and fun filled venue on earth that is as worthy as if God developed himself. Geezzz

Wait. Are you saying God is not the developer?!?!?

[golfing eagles]

Wait. Are you saying God is not the developer?!?!?

No, but there are those who think he is a close relative:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Defined]

Don't let a few bad apple spoil the bushel. Unfriendly folks may have just been a bad day for them. As far as the trash I have noticed over the years during high season it does increase. Cigarette Butts a pet peeve of mine, I do yell at those I see flicking them out of their golf carts, car windows or just dropping them as they walk. The world is NOT their ash tray!

[Walter123]

I think filter cigarettes should be banned. Unfiltered cigarettes decompose a lot faster.

So do the people that smoke them!

[Bogie Shooter]

So do the people that smoke them!

Like!

[kcrazorbackfan]

Smacking children is a terrible thing to do. It's called child abuse. For those of you that grew up in households like that, and I am one of them, know that it causes more damage than good. Very sore subject for me and it shouldn't be talked about so lightly. I know you didn't mean anything by it, but still.....

Smacking a child is child abuse? Are you serious? Beating a child sure, but smacking? That's what's wrong with kids today, they don't get their butt whipped when they do something wrong. A good percentage of Villagers probably grew up in the era of getting spankings whereas their grandchildren are in the era where no one gets a butt whipping and everyone gets a participation trophy.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Don't let a few bad apple spoil the bushel. Unfriendly folks may have just been a bad day for them. As far as the trash I have noticed over the years during high season it does increase. Cigarette Butts a pet peeve of mine, I do yell at those I see flicking them out of their golf carts, car windows or just dropping them as they walk. The world is NOT their ash tray!

I totally agree. Props for the statement.

[graciegirl]

No, but there are those who think he is a close relative:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:





Who could that be?

[dbussone]

Who could that be?

I have no solid leads right now. Perhaps a lobster fancier?

[golfing eagles]

Who could that be?

I don't have a clue:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[rubicon]

Wait. Are you saying God is not the developer?!?!?

outlaw He (VLSI) does

[RickeyD]

Smacking a child is child abuse? Are you serious? Beating a child sure, but smacking? That's what's wrong with kids today, they don't get their butt whipped when they do something wrong. A good percentage of Villagers probably grew up in the era of getting spankings whereas their grandchildren are in the era where no one gets a butt whipping and everyone gets a participation trophy.


Spanking is one thing, smacking as in the face, is quite another.

[rubicon]

Smacking a child is child abuse? Are you serious? Beating a child sure, but smacking? That's what's wrong with kids today, they don't get their butt whipped when they do something wrong. A good percentage of Villagers probably grew up in the era of getting spankings whereas their grandchildren are in the era where no one gets a butt whipping and everyone gets a participation trophy.

kcrazorbackfan: Back in the day corporal punishment was allowed. I had the distinction in Freshman class at West High School to have gotten the most whacks 265 that year and a school record. Our gym teacher drilled large holes in his paddle to eliminate wind resistance.

I don't believe in hitting a child but I must admit I have seen some where a spanking is needed to awaken their brains. I must also admit that I was one of them but for a father with a John Wayne mentality I'd probably be in dire straits today. After military service I made it a point to tell my Dad thank you for being a good parent.

Parenting is difficult and after our generation it has become continually more difficult given the shifts of mores availability of drugs, etc

[Walter123]

Smacking a child is child abuse? Are you serious? Beating a child sure, but smacking? That's what's wrong with kids today, they don't get their butt whipped when they do something wrong. A good percentage of Villagers probably grew up in the era of getting spankings whereas their grandchildren are in the era where no one gets a butt whipping and everyone gets a participation trophy.

10,000 Maniacs - What's The Matter Here? Lyrics | MetroLyrics (http://www.metrolyrics.com/whats-the-matter-here-lyrics-10000-maniacs.html)

Maybe you want to start a new thread.

[flyerguy]

10,000 Maniacs - What's The Matter Here? Lyrics | MetroLyrics (http://www.metrolyrics.com/whats-the-matter-here-lyrics-10000-maniacs.html)

Maybe you want to start a new thread.

Agree. Don't know how this thread on Trash Around turned into child abuse.

[graciegirl]

10,000 Maniacs - What's The Matter Here? Lyrics | MetroLyrics (http://www.metrolyrics.com/whats-the-matter-here-lyrics-10000-maniacs.html)

Maybe you want to start a new thread.

Agree. Don't know how this thread on Trash Around turned into child abuse.



I now realize it is MY fault. I remember that I said that those worker folks wouldn't be throwing litter out if their moms had smacked them. I kinda meant it.


I would like to go on record as no child beater, but neither of our children has ever been arrested, nor our grandchildren either. Both of our grandchildren work for Fox News. Now this should turn the conversation.....lol.

[dbussone]

[QUOTE=flyerguy;1189127]



I now realize it is MY fault. I remember that I said that those worker folks wouldn't be throwing litter out if their moms had smacked them. I kinda meant it.


I would like to go on record as no child beater, but neither of our children has ever been arrested, nor our grandchildren either. Both of our grandchildren work for Fox News. Now this should turn the conversation.....lol.


Well Gracie, you and your husband, and your children and their spouses, and your grandchildren have all done something correct and well. Congratulations!

[golfing eagles]

I've been known to wander off topic, but from trash at the postal boxes to child beating???? Quite a jump there:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[RickeyD]

kcrazorbackfan: Back in the day corporal punishment was allowed. I had the distinction in Freshman class at West High School to have gotten the most whacks 265 that year and a school record. Our gym teacher drilled large holes in his paddle to eliminate wind resistance.

I don't believe in hitting a child but I must admit I have seen some where a spanking is needed to awaken their brains. I must also admit that I was one of them but for a father with a John Wayne mentality I'd probably be in dire straits today. After military service I made it a point to tell my Dad thank you for being a good parent.

Parenting is difficult and after our generation it has become continually more difficult given the shifts of mores availability of drugs, etc


How about a fiberglass rod with a steel tip across the butt and or the palm of both hands.? Sister Eulick used this tool on boys only.

[Dynsol]

I believe there is one more tribe, a tribe of trolls that have a vested interest in saying negative untruths about the villages. Perhaps they own or are affliated with a competing community. The very occasional bottle or can I have seen on golf cart paths are likely ones that have fallen from moving golf carts and it's clear they have been on the path a short time. I dispise cigarette butts, occasionally see some, and think those people should be ticketed. The villages are super clean, especially considering it's not actually a gated community.

To the OP, congratulations on your 1st post. In what community do you actually live?

Ditto for you......:pepper2::agree:

and for the poster ...Did you live in a vacuum before moving?

[Barefoot]

I've been known to wander off topic ... I've noticed that you often inject lobster comments in your posts. I have no idea why! :evil6:

Back to trash and cigarette butts and the poster wondering if she made a mistake in moving to The Villages.

[RickeyD]

I've noticed that you often inject lobster comments in your posts. I have no idea why! :evil6:

Back to trash and cigarette butts and the poster wondering if she made a mistake in moving to The Villages.


Lobsters don't smoke but they do poop, I think.

[dbussone]

Lobsters don't smoke but they do poop, I think.


Take them to the Lobster Park. They don't bark so they won't bother the golfers on the 5th tee on the other thread.

[RickeyD]

Take them to the Lobster Park. They don't bark so they won't bother the golfers on the 5th tee on the other thread.


Is that near the dog park ?

[golfing eagles]

I've noticed that you often inject lobster comments in your posts. I have no idea why! :evil6:


I've noticed that you lose lobsters on baseball bets, and I know why!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Still trying to figure out what any of this has to do with trash

[RickeyD]

I've noticed that you lose lobsters on baseball bets, and I know why!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:



Still trying to figure out what any of this has to do with trash


At one time lobsters were considered trash. Fishermen would toss them out from their nets. Hence, the trash/lobster link.

[wisbad1]

not to worry, smokers don't last long!

[Talk2Pete]

The Villages is like every other town (hometown or not.) By that I mean you have all kinds of people. Many are very friendly and many are not. Many are very thoughtful and many are not. Remember as we get older we do not change. We just get "more so."

[rubicon]

How about a fiberglass rod with a steel tip across the butt and or the palm of both hands.? Sister Eulick used this tool on boys only.

RickeyD: I went to a Catholic Elementary School and yes Mother Superior was a big believer in teaching kids about the importance of humility and a ruler certainly serves up a lot of humility.

P.S. I jumped topics because the trash topic was getting too political but I will say waste management does an outstanding job in this community:D

[Jima64]

Ditto for you......:pepper2::agree:

and for the poster ...Did you live in a vacuum before moving?

You mean someone might not love the villages and see a true negative?

[Allegiance]

The OP still has just one post. Never came back or identified the roads or restaurants in question. Interesting.