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Guest
02-26-2016, 05:26 PM
Hillary Clinton is now showing her the favorite of being our next President by the oddsmakers at 54.7 percent.

Trump is coming in at 24.4 percent.

This is not to be a political comment but just how the professional oddsmakers are calling it right now. It may have an uptick or downtick after March 15.

Guest
02-26-2016, 07:24 PM
Hillary Clinton is now showing her the favorite of being our next President by the oddsmakers at 54.7 percent.

Trump is coming in at 24.4 percent.

This is not to be a political comment but just how the professional oddsmakers are calling it right now. It may have an uptick or downtick after March 15.

:a20::a20::a20:

OK now to continue with the entertainment just google the following:

who do odds makers favor in the next presidential election

Then procede to read the many articles that do not agree with the one you decided to cherry pick.

There is even one that states that rarely does the odds favored candidate win the election.

These odds makers are just a couple strokes from being polls makers.
What would you like to hear? OK wait aminute! Here it comes.
What would you like to see? OK wait a minute. Here I found you one.

And so on.

Nice try.

Guest
02-27-2016, 11:07 AM
Electionbettingodds give Rubio an 8.6 percent chance of being the next President and Cruz gets only a .8 percent chance!

This is interesting to follow.

Guest
02-28-2016, 10:36 PM
Hillary Clinton is now at 60.4 percent chance of being the next President. Trump is next at 25 percent.

Stay tuned, my little :jester:Republicans.:beer3:

Guest
02-29-2016, 12:04 AM
Hillary Clinton is now at 60.4 percent chance of being the next President. Trump is next at 25 percent.

Stay tuned, my little :jester:Republicans.:beer3:

The odds will change once she is indicted.:MOJE_whot:

Guest
02-29-2016, 04:42 AM
Just think of it. There are serious allegations surrounding Hillary Clinton from Benghazi to her personal e-mail server to the Clinton Charitable foundation that have been under investigation for sometime now and all of it seems to be stalled, in limbo, Why? The Clinton people's line will be because it is all a right wing conspiracy. All of it bupkus.

But yet the allegations ring true. And we know she used a personal server and we know that SAP information the highest of the highest confidential information passed through her server. We know Benghazi was not well fortified nor was help sent to rescue Americans. We know the Clinton's through their foundation are now multi-millionaires.

Yet no one moves. So is the government so corrupt that one of the political class because she is the political class is above the law? Wasn't the rule of law to apply to everyone? Is that why Fast & furious sits in the evidence room along with the IRS scandal, etc?

Liberal journalists took joy in exposing Richard Nixon, where are they now?

So we find useful idiots clamoring for their Queen to ascend to the throne
and allowing government continuing its corruption that someday ill reach every American citizen.

Personal Best Regard:

Guest
02-29-2016, 06:02 AM
Turnout was about 370,000, according to Edison Research — modest compared with the 532,000 ballots cast in the Clinton-Obama primary race here in 2008, and well below the record 743,000 votes cast in South Carolina’s Republican primary last Saturday, which Mr. Trump won.

Republicans have had large voter turnouts, so it's going to be interesting to see how Hillary is going to beat any of the Republicans, when she has half the voter turnout of 2008. As a matter of fact, the Dems have thousands of additional registered compared to 2008, but in reality only about a 30% turnout in SC. It will be interesting to see how many turn out this week.

Before the pet liberal troll on here starts patting himself on the back, he might want to wait until the horses are out of the gate before rushing to the winner's circle.

Guest
02-29-2016, 08:43 AM
Just think of it. There are serious allegations surrounding Hillary Clinton from Benghazi to her personal e-mail server to the Clinton Charitable foundation that have been under investigation for sometime now and all of it seems to be stalled, in limbo, Why? The Clinton people's line will be because it is all a right wing conspiracy. All of it bupkus.

But yet the allegations ring true. And we know she used a personal server and we know that SAP information the highest of the highest confidential information passed through her server. We know Benghazi was not well fortified nor was help sent to rescue Americans. We know the Clinton's through their foundation are now multi-millionaires.

Yet no one moves. So is the government so corrupt that one of the political class because she is the political class is above the law? Wasn't the rule of law to apply to everyone? Is that why Fast & furious sits in the evidence room along with the IRS scandal, etc?

Liberal journalists took joy in exposing Richard Nixon, where are they now?

So we find useful idiots clamoring for their Queen to ascend to the throne
and allowing government continuing its corruption that someday ill reach every American citizen.

Personal Best Regard:

Republicans talk about idiots supporting Clinton! Who is the most likely Republican nominee for president? Donald Trump. What type of an idiot supports this guy? It seems that idiots are the sole domain of the Democratic party. There are plenty to go around. Once again Trump vs Clinton makes Donald Duck look pretty good alternative.

Can a president be impeached right out of the blocks? I know what the answer is, and it is too bad. What a sad state of affairs, when one of these will be our next president.

The RNC are not treating me fairly. Boo hoo!. You mean people with an education, and a brain.

Don't worry Trump will put his name on all our foreign embassies; therefore, they will be well protected, because Trump will do everything to protect his name. If ISIS attacks any embassy, he will do what he does best sue them.

Trump past history is now coming into clear view, and it doesn't look good. John Oliver raked him over the coals last night. Apparently one of Trump's ancestors change the family name from Dumpst to Trump. Would you vote for Donald Dumpst? I don't know if that is true, but if it is, it certainly is funny given the attitude of Trump.

Guest
02-29-2016, 08:48 AM
I am sorry. Here is the correct spelling of Trump's ancestors name. My bad!https://www.yahoo.com/tv/john-olivers-plan-to-ruin-trumps-name-090954923.html

Guest
02-29-2016, 09:21 AM
Republicans talk about idiots supporting Clinton! Who is the most likely Republican nominee for president? Donald Trump. What type of an idiot supports this guy? It seems that idiots are the sole domain of the Democratic party. There are plenty to go around. Once again Trump vs Clinton makes Donald Duck look pretty good alternative.

Can a president be impeached right out of the blocks? I know what the answer is, and it is too bad. What a sad state of affairs, when one of these will be our next president.

The RNC are not treating me fairly. Boo hoo!. You mean people with an education, and a brain.

Don't worry Trump will put his name on all our foreign embassies; therefore, they will be well protected, because Trump will do everything to protect his name. If ISIS attacks any embassy, he will do what he does best sue them.

Trump past history is now coming into clear view, and it doesn't look good. John Oliver raked him over the coals last night. Apparently one of Trump's ancestors change the family name from Dumpst to Trump. Would you vote for Donald Dumpst? I don't know if that is true, but if it is, it certainly is funny given the attitude of Trump.

I'd vote for the empty chair or even Bernie Sanders before I would vote for Hillary. At least with Sanders, you know he would not make it through a whole term before keeling over and dying. If Hillary keels over, they will just slap some bondo on her and play a recording of her witch cackle. Oh, maybe that's what they are doing now.

Guest
02-29-2016, 10:31 AM
Election betting odds?

Isn't that how a fool and his money is parted?

How well has anybody done at winning at the race track by playing the odds?

I rest my case on the election betting odds (smoke job).

Guest
02-29-2016, 03:05 PM
Election betting odds?

Isn't that how a fool and his money is parted?

How well has anybody done at winning at the race track by playing the odds?

I rest my case on the election betting odds (smoke job).

You might be right. The exception to this rule is if Trump owns the casino. Then, the real loser is the casino. Maybe they are coming up with the odds using Trump's past as their basis.

Guest
02-29-2016, 03:13 PM
Election betting odds?

Isn't that how a fool and his money is parted?

How well has anybody done at winning at the race track by playing the odds?

I rest my case on the election betting odds (smoke job).

Check out the website and you may change your tune.

Guest
02-29-2016, 08:34 PM
The odds will change once she is indicted.:MOJE_whot:







You mean when Donny gets indicted for fraud - Trump University?

LOL - how dumb can a Con be to fall for that scam

Well, Trump did say he loves the uneducated.

Guest
02-29-2016, 09:09 PM
You mean when Donny gets indicted for fraud - Trump University?

LOL - how dumb can a Con be to fall for that scam

Well, Trump did say he loves the uneducated.

You might want to brush up on your reading skill. The OP said SHE not HE.

Guest
02-29-2016, 10:14 PM
Election betting odds are showing that Trump wins all the Super Tuesday states except Texas - which goes to Cruz.

It shows Hillary winning all the Democrat Super Tuesday states.

Hillary right now is at 61.4 percent of being the next President. Trump at 26 percent chance of winning the election.

This is real!

Guest
03-01-2016, 05:24 AM
It doesn't matter if Killary wins any states or not. She has already bought the Super Delegates, so the only thing left his her coronation. Since the Dem establishment doesn't like her, they have bloomie warming up in the bull pen. The latest emails to be released prove that Obama was complicit, so he will have to pardon her or she will drag him down as she promised. She said if she was indicted, she would take others down with her. A threat meant for him, of course.

Guest
03-01-2016, 02:47 PM
The odds for Hillary being President keep getting better! She is now at 62.5 percent chance of being the 45th President!

Trump took a little down tick at 25.6 and Rubles is way down at 6 percent chance of being the next President.

Guest
03-01-2016, 03:14 PM
The odds for Hillary being President keep getting better! She is now at 62.5 percent chance of being the 45th President!

Trump took a little down tick at 25.6 and Rubles is way down at 6 percent chance of being the next President.

You can dispense with the X-X-X kool aide talking reports.
Nobody but the hangers on die hards care.

Anybody can finds odds for anything anytime. Even the odds of a felon running for president.

Guest
03-01-2016, 03:28 PM
You can dispense with the X-X-X kool aide talking reports.
Nobody but the hangers on die hards care.

Anybody can finds odds for anything anytime. Even the odds of a felon running for president.

I will post whatever I want. Get over yourself.

The only felons I know of are Crapweasel Bush and Dickey Boy Cheney - both are war criminals! :a20::a20::a20::a20:

As I said before, go to electionbettingodds.com and read all about how they get their odds. You have the vague possibility of learning something - even with your obvious dementia.

Guest
03-01-2016, 03:37 PM
I will post whatever I want. Get over yourself.

The only felons I know of are Crapweasel Bush and Dickey Boy Cheney - both are war criminals! :a20::a20::a20::a20:

As I said before, go to electionbettingodds.com and read all about how they get their odds. You have the vague possibility of learning something - even with your obvious dementia.

Responding in kind....go take a flying leap on a rolling donut....either before or after KMA.

Guest
03-01-2016, 03:38 PM
Responding in kind....go take a flying leap on a rolling donut....either before or after KMA.

I should be taken to task for trying to be so polite about it, but I cannot say here what your disparaging name calling trully deserves.

Guest
03-01-2016, 06:49 PM
It ain't over until the fat hillary sings.

Guest
03-01-2016, 08:47 PM
Hillary now at 63.9 percent to win the
Presidency!

Hillary wins! The USA wins!:2excited:

Guest
03-01-2016, 08:50 PM
Responding in kind....go take a flying leap on a rolling donut....either before or after KMA.

It would be too difficult to kiss your as-. Your head is stuck too far up it! :a20::a20::a20::a20::a20:

Guest
03-01-2016, 09:35 PM
You might want to brush up on your reading skill. The OP said SHE not HE.






Trump will be standing trial in September for fraud.

While he is tied up in court, trying to stay out of the joint perhaps he can get his good friend David Duke and his crew to campaign for him

Heck, if Donald wins the election, Duke should be in line to be Attorney General

Guest
03-02-2016, 05:09 AM
Super Tuesday was dismal turn out for the left. I believe this year may be a record low Democrat turnout. On the other hand, there seems to be a record high turnout for the Republican party. It seems they have had to print out more ballots because of the mass voting turn out.

Guest
03-02-2016, 06:30 AM
Turnout was about 370,000, according to Edison Research — modest compared with the 532,000 ballots cast in the Clinton-Obama primary race here in 2008, and well below the record 743,000 votes cast in South Carolina’s Republican primary last Saturday, which Mr. Trump won.

Republicans have had large voter turnouts, so it's going to be interesting to see how Hillary is going to beat any of the Republicans, when she has half the voter turnout of 2008. As a matter of fact, the Dems have thousands of additional registered compared to 2008, but in reality only about a 30% turnout in SC. It will be interesting to see how many turn out this week.



A party's primary turnout is higher when the race is competitive--both of which are true on the Republican side.


More candidates in the race means more candidates for voters to choose from and get excited about, and more resources directed at turning their party's voters out. With more than a dozen candidates in the GOP race in Iowa, for example, each campaign had field staffers on the ground and people whose jobs it was to make sure they turned out every supporter they could. So clearly, the Republicans with so many candidates in the fray, will have a greater turnout in the primaries, particularly with Trump running. Many people will vote in the primaries either because the love him, or because they hate him and want to make sure someone else gets their vote.

Guest
03-02-2016, 01:11 PM
The simple fact is that no one wants to vote for Hillary or Sanders, so a very low voter turnout.

Trump has energized the GOP voters, and there is over 50% increase in Republican voter registration and turn out. This is not to say that he is getting the vote, because he isn't. He is getting barely less than half the total votes cast on the GOP side.

Therefore:

Hillary will have a hard time beating any GOP candidate, IF she only gets a small portion of Democrat votes.
Any GOP candidate (including Trump) should be able to easily defeat Hillary in the general election IF the Dems have a diminished voter turnout.
Independents are leaning toward the right, so Hillary will probably not get that much help from them.

So, you can dream any dream you want, but the general election votes have not been cast yet. There are a lot of different theories and predictions. The Dem's have not won until the fat Hillary sings.

Guest
03-04-2016, 07:06 PM
The Trumpster has taken a slight downtick to 19.6 percent chance of being the next President while Hillary Clinton is at 63.9 percent!

Hillary wins! The USA wins!

Guest
03-06-2016, 09:43 AM
The Trumpster has taken a slight downtick to 19.6 percent chance of being the next President while Hillary Clinton is at 63.9 percent!

Hillary wins! The USA wins!

Contagious, delerium induced BS!

Guest
03-06-2016, 10:38 AM
Contagious, delerium induced BS!

Would you care to place a bet of an ice cold Yeungling that Hillary will beat Trump in the general election?

Guest
03-06-2016, 10:49 AM
Would you care to place a bet of an ice cold Yeungling that Hillary will beat Trump in the general election?

Why bet when it is not even known whether either or neither will be in the race.

I don't see any reason for confidence the either one will survive; so sometime in July should be a more clear picture of who is running. (remember 2008)

Guest
03-06-2016, 10:54 AM
Let them have Hillary. She can be president of the food quality protest in the federal penitentiary.

Guest
03-06-2016, 10:59 AM
Let them have Hillary. She can be president of the food quality protest in the federal penitentiary.

She already has the wardrobe!

Guest
03-06-2016, 01:13 PM
I didn't realize you can serve as President while sitting in a Federal prison after having been convicted of numerous felonies. Gotta hand it to Clinton and her voters.

Guest
03-06-2016, 01:27 PM
I didn't realize you can serve as President while sitting in a Federal prison after having been convicted of numerous felonies. Gotta hand it to Clinton and her voters.

Actually, I don't know if there is any restrictions on a president residing in a prison or not. I do know that other politicians have held political positions while in prison. Knowing the left, they would probably still support her and fight to allow her to manage the country from prison.

Guest
03-07-2016, 09:09 PM
Hillary is now at 64.7 percent chance of being the next President, Trump at 18.9 percent chance, and Cruz at 3.4 percent chance. Rubles has dropped into the 2 percent range.

Time is NOW for the Dumbpublicans to throw in the towel and admit defeat!

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1 rotfl::1rotfl:

Guest
03-08-2016, 12:20 AM
How old was Ragen when he started his second term?

Guest
03-08-2016, 04:44 AM
How old was Ragen when he started his second term?

Reagan in his grave was a better president than Obama. Reagan's wife was a better president than Obama.

Guest
03-08-2016, 06:07 AM
It looks like early voting in Florida indicates that Rubio has an early lead. I have been waiting to cast my early vote until I could get an indication on which candidate could possibly beat Trump. I had intended to vote for Rubio until I saw his dismal showing in the Super Tuesday primary. Then, I figured that Cruz would be the best candidate to beat Trump and still have a chance of winning the general. If Rubio has the best chance of winning Florida from Trump, then I guess I will still vote for Rubio, even though it is virtually impossible for him to win the nomination. But, why waste a vote on Cruz, if Trump is going to win Florida if Rubio doesn't? So, I plan to vote for Rubio if this trend continues with him in the lead for Florida. I don't think that Trump is the best we can do, and even Cruz is better. I realize that Rubio doesn't have a chance in the long haul, but if Trump loses a few states, then maybe Cruz can get the nomination, even if it turns out that we end up with a contested convention. If Trump doesn't get the nomination and decides to be a dixk about it, then it will just backfire on him. He will become the villain and be ostracized in America. With an ego like his, that would be unacceptable, so he would probably back off. So, as it stands right now Rubio will likely get my primary vote. What happens in the general is entirely different. I will support whichever candidate gets the nomination for the Republican party.

Guest
03-08-2016, 07:20 AM
And the Democrats will support whoever gets the Democratic nod. As of 3/2/16, the average of latest polls show either Hillary or Sanders easily beating Trump in the general election.

Guest
03-08-2016, 08:37 AM
And the Democrats will support whoever gets the Democratic nod. As of 3/2/16, the average of latest polls show either Hillary or Sanders easily beating Trump in the general election.

Polls are as definite as the shape of a passing cloud!!

Guest
03-08-2016, 09:10 AM
It looks like early voting in Florida indicates that Rubio has an early lead. I have been waiting to cast my early vote until I could get an indication on which candidate could possibly beat Trump. I had intended to vote for Rubio until I saw his dismal showing in the Super Tuesday primary. Then, I figured that Cruz would be the best candidate to beat Trump and still have a chance of winning the general. If Rubio has the best chance of winning Florida from Trump, then I guess I will still vote for Rubio, even though it is virtually impossible for him to win the nomination. But, why waste a vote on Cruz, if Trump is going to win Florida if Rubio doesn't? So, I plan to vote for Rubio if this trend continues with him in the lead for Florida. I don't think that Trump is the best we can do, and even Cruz is better. I realize that Rubio doesn't have a chance in the long haul, but if Trump loses a few states, then maybe Cruz can get the nomination, even if it turns out that we end up with a contested convention. If Trump doesn't get the nomination and decides to be a dixk about it, then it will just backfire on him. He will become the villain and be ostracized in America. With an ego like his, that would be unacceptable, so he would probably back off. So, as it stands right now Rubio will likely get my primary vote. What happens in the general is entirely different. I will support whichever candidate gets the nomination for the Republican party.

You will support whatever Republican candidate gets the nomination? Pal, you are the kind of idiot that should not be vote.

You would support Trump even though he stated several times that he would kill the families of terrorists? How about televising Trump personally beheading the mother and the 6 month old child of the San Bernadino killers? You in favor of that?

Guest
03-08-2016, 09:13 AM
You will support whatever Republican candidate gets the nomination? Pal, you are the kind of idiot that should not be vote.

You would support Trump even though he stated several times that he would kill the families of terrorists? How about televising Trump personally beheading the mother and the 6 month old child of the San Bernadino killers? You in favor of that?

Can you provide where we can go to see/hear Trumps comments as you have outlined in your post?

Guest
03-08-2016, 10:15 AM
Reagan in his grave was a better president than Obama. Reagan's wife was a better president than Obama.
You didn't answer my question. You see that a lot lately. Ask a question and answer it with an insult. If it's funny enough, people will pay attention to the insult and forget the question.

Guest
03-08-2016, 10:35 AM
Can you provide where we can go to see/hear Trumps comments as you have outlined in your post?

Google it yourself. I am not going to be doing your homework.

Guest
03-08-2016, 11:08 AM
Google it yourself. I am not going to be doing your homework.

Meaning you don't know or don't have it!! Just another knee jerk parroting.

Guest
03-08-2016, 11:48 AM
Google it yourself. I am not going to be doing your homework.
That's why FactCheck and Snopes has an audience and makes a living. I think it's a stronger argument when a source is provided.

The internet changed the world of education. Some professors have banned wireless devices in the lecture hall because students would not listen, instead they would google everything the professor said and missed some of the content.

We used to listen to experts because it was too much work to substantiate what they said.

Guest
03-08-2016, 12:37 PM
You will support whatever Republican candidate gets the nomination? Pal, you are the kind of idiot that should not be vote.

You would support Trump even though he stated several times that he would kill the families of terrorists? How about televising Trump personally beheading the mother and the 6 month old child of the San Bernadino killers? You in favor of that?

From an idiot that would vote for Hillary or Sanders? I don't know of any Democrats that I am associated with that will admit that they would vote for either of them. They may not vote Republican, but they sure won't vote for the criminal and the socialist. SO, YES I will vote for any Republican that gets the nomination. Because even Trump, the worst of them is better than either Killary or Sanders. If you have a problem with that, then try explaining why you can justify voting for Hillary or Sanders.

Guest
03-08-2016, 01:17 PM
From an idiot that would vote for Hillary or Sanders? I don't know of any Democrats that I am associated with that will admit that they would vote for either of them. They may not vote Republican, but they sure won't vote for the criminal and the socialist. SO, YES I will vote for any Republican that gets the nomination. Because even Trump, the worst of them is better than either Killary or Sanders. If you have a problem with that, then try explaining why you can justify voting for Hillary or Sanders.

I just voted for Hillary and will vote for her in the general election. You are not associated with real democrats if they are voting for any other party. I am proud to be called an idiot by an ignoramus.

Guest
03-08-2016, 01:25 PM
I just voted for Hillary and will vote for her in the general election. You are not associated with real democrats if they are voting for any other party. I am proud to be called an idiot by an ignoramus.

So what you are saying is vote the party no matter what!!!

You are also saying those who don't are not real party members!!!

The party is always right.

Exactly why unqualified incompetents like Obama get elected.

You go on being a happy party first no matter what supporter.

The rest of us will continue to do what is right for America regardless the R or D.

Guest
03-08-2016, 02:08 PM
Time for a daily dose of reality:

Hillary Clinton is now at 66.2 percent chance of being our next President; Trump slipped a bit downward to 19 percent; and Cruz inched upward to 4.2 percent chance of being the next President. Rubio is at 2 percent possibility.


This is a fluid situation and changes every day. Stay tuned or go to electionbettingodds.com and follow for yourselves.

Guest
03-08-2016, 02:40 PM
So what you are saying is vote the party no matter what!!!

You are also saying those who don't are not real party members!!!

The party is always right.

Exactly why unqualified incompetents like Obama get elected.

You go on being a happy party first no matter what supporter.

The rest of us will continue to do what is right for America regardless the R or D.
Republicans do not share my values. That is why I vote for the democrats. What makes you think you know what is best for America?

Guest
03-08-2016, 03:06 PM
Snopes "The bottom line is this: No one will likely ever know what was deleted from Clinton's server. Barring one of the 30,000 emails Clinton turned over to the State Department being deemed "classified," it's also unlikely she will ever be found to have violated the letter of the law."

Hillary is the boss. She assumes that the people in charge of her classified computer files are storing them safely and are following the guidelines of federal government security. You can't expect her to know where the files are saved any more than you can expect her to know when she throws a bottle out if it is going to the recycling center or the dump with the other garbage. Hillary is the boss. When she throws out a diet pepsi aluminum can she assumes it is being recycled.

I'll bet all that changed. If I was the boss and my security team said that when I was saving files it was going to the right server I would hire a second team to double check they were right, just to be on the safe side.

If it was done incorrectly it was not done with criminal intent. She wasn't selling classified secrets or saving money by using a home server. You can't expect the boss to know all there is to know about network security.

You can expect lawyers, politicians and candidates to understand the constitution, the Geneva Convention, how a bill becomes a law and and why it's important to think before you talk.

Guest
03-08-2016, 03:49 PM
Snopes "The bottom line is this: No one will likely ever know what was deleted from Clinton's server. Barring one of the 30,000 emails Clinton turned over to the State Department being deemed "classified," it's also unlikely she will ever be found to have violated the letter of the law."

Hillary is the boss. She assumes that the people in charge of her classified computer files are storing them safely and are following the guidelines of federal government security. You can't expect her to know where the files are saved any more than you can expect her to know when she throws a bottle out if it is going to the recycling center or the dump with the other garbage. Hillary is the boss. When she throws out a diet pepsi aluminum can she assumes it is being recycled.

I'll bet all that changed. If I was the boss and my security team said that when I was saving files it was going to the right server I would hire a second team to double check they were right, just to be on the safe side.

If it was done incorrectly it was not done with criminal intent. She wasn't selling classified secrets or saving money by using a home server. You can't expect the boss to know all there is to know about network security.

You can expect lawyers, politicians and candidates to understand the constitution, the Geneva Convention, how a bill becomes a law and and why it's important to think before you talk.

It is clear form your post that you have never held a government position in which you were required to sent and or received unclassified or classified information, yet you seem to be a self-styled expert, intent on make excuses for Hillary Clinton.

You obviously know nothing of the security safeguards and procedures which have been implemented to prevent the compromise of sensitive information. Your uninformed opinion is just that...an uniformed, biased and factually inaccurate opinion!

Guest
03-08-2016, 04:06 PM
It is clear form your post that you have never held a government position in which you were required to sent and or received unclassified or classified information, yet you seem to be a self-styled expert, intent on make excuses for Hillary Clinton.

You obviously know nothing of the security safeguards and procedures which have been implemented to prevent the compromise of sensitive information. Your uninformed opinion is just that...an uniformed, biased and factually inaccurate opinion!
I'm willing to learn Tell me what you know and back it up.

I'm not on trial. Until I retired I was too busy making ends meet to be an expert like you.

Guest
03-08-2016, 04:49 PM
I'm willing to learn Tell me what you know and back it up.

I'm not on trial. Until I retired I was too busy making ends meet to be an expert like you.

I spent 23 years as a naval analyst and communications officer. I'm more that willing to help you overcome your 'sensitive material handling' ignorance, but it's going to take a while...I hope you have a lot of free time.

Guest
03-08-2016, 04:59 PM
The point is that Hillary is a felon. She knowingly violated national security by using a personal, open to the Internet computer, that had no encryption, to transmit classified information. Marked or not, it was still classified information and she knew it. If she claims that she did not know it, then she is a blatant liar. No one would be given that position and not know the importance of properly handling classified material. The lowest paid State Dept employee is given training in the handling of classified material. Clinton signed a non-disclosure agreement also. She is guilty. Just the emails that have been released prove that, and no telling what they have refused to release because of the sensitivity of the material. She can not claim to be ignorant. She can not take that excuse. She is corrupt. Her husband is corrupt. They are both criminals, and liberals will vote for them regardless. That says that liberals do not care about their country.

Guest
03-08-2016, 05:30 PM
The point is that Hillary is a felon.:1rotfl: She knowingly violated national security by using a personal, open to the Internet computer, that had no encryption, to transmit classified information. Marked or not, it was still classified information and she knew it. If she claims that she did not know it, then she is a blatant liar. :1rotfl: No one would be given that position and not know the importance of properly handling classified material. The lowest paid State Dept employee is given training in the handling of classified material. Clinton signed a non-disclosure agreement also. She is guilty. :blahblahblah::blahblahblah:Just the emails that have been released prove that, and no telling what they have refused to release because of the sensitivity of the material. She can not claim to be ignorant. She can not take that excuse. She is corrupt.:1rotfl::blahblahblah: Her husband is corrupt.:blahblahblah: They are both criminals, and liberals will vote for them regardless. That says that liberals do not care about their country.

So says the resident State Dept expert - a retired clerk-typist. :1rotfl:

Guest
03-08-2016, 05:43 PM
So says the resident State Dept expert - a retired clerk-typist. :1rotfl:

I'm not the OP, but I have noticed that when Liberals don't like the message (the truth in the OP's case), they resort to trying to demean the messenger. Oh, by the way, even a retired State Department clerk typist knows how to handle classified material...something of which you are obviously clueless.

Guest
03-08-2016, 05:53 PM
I spent 23 years as a naval analyst and communications officer. I'm more that willing to help you overcome your 'sensitive material handling' ignorance, but it's going to take a while...I hope you have a lot of free time.
From what years were you an navel analyst? Was it from 1993 to 2016?

Guest
03-08-2016, 06:10 PM
From what years were you an navel analyst? Was it from 1993 to 2016?

I was never a navel analyst, but I was a naval intel officer/naval analyst from 1983 to 2002 and a communications officer from 1979 to 1983.

Guest
03-08-2016, 06:18 PM
I was never a navel analyst, but I was a naval intel officer/naval analyst from 1983 to 2002 and a communications officer from 1979 to 1983.
I was addressing the person that said


"I spent 23 years as a naval analyst and communications officer. "

Guest
03-08-2016, 06:22 PM
I was addressing the person that said


"I spent 23 years as a naval analyst and communications officer. "
I'm sorry. This is a ****ing contest I got myself into. Thank you for your service. Like you I'm trying to look out for the America my children and grand children will inherit. We just see things differently.

Guest
03-08-2016, 06:25 PM
I was addressing the person that said


"I spent 23 years as a naval analyst and communications officer. "

And, I responded. As I stated, I was never a navel analyst, but rather a naval analyst.

Guest
03-09-2016, 05:17 AM
Republicans do not share my values. That is why I vote for the democrats. What makes you think you know what is best for America?

That's an easy one. You, in your ignorance have never lived in another country, much less several foreign countries. Therefore, you do NOT know what today's Democrat party's goal is to socialize this country like others. The reason that I know better than you (not such a high bar) is that I have experienced socialism in other countries. Why do you think that everyone wants to live here and no one from America wishes to migrate to other countries? There is a very good reason for it.

Other reasons:

You need the gov - the gov needs us
You want a gov babysitter - we want the gov to allow us our privacy
You believe in coddling - we believe in self-reliance
You don't like something someone does - you want to ban it. If we don't like something, we don't do it.

You need FREE education
You need FREE housing
You need ......etc, etc, etc...........You are needy...and we aren't.

No matter how you spin Social Security and Medicare.....we don't need it. You do. You say we enjoy those services. No, we were forced to contribute to it, so we want our due recompense.

Guest
03-09-2016, 05:19 AM
I just voted for Hillary and will vote for her in the general election. You are not associated with real democrats if they are voting for any other party. I am proud to be called an idiot by an ignoramus.

It's funny that you would admit to voting for the felon and then call someone else an ignoramus. :1rotfl::1rotfl:

Guest
03-09-2016, 05:22 AM
I'm willing to learn Tell me what you know and back it up.

I'm not on trial. Until I retired I was too busy making ends meet to be an expert like you.

And yet, you criticize those that have expert knowledge on the subject. Is this typical of your party or just you? Do you figure that you are the only person that has ever had to "make ends meet?"

Guest
03-09-2016, 05:27 AM
You will support whatever Republican candidate gets the nomination? Pal, you are the kind of idiot that should not be vote.

You would support Trump even though he stated several times that he would kill the families of terrorists? How about televising Trump personally beheading the mother and the 6 month old child of the San Bernadino killers? You in favor of that?

You would vote for a felon (Hillary) and yet criticize someone else?
Hmmm, kill the families of terrorists? Didn't we use the atom bomb on Japan, twice? Did we just kill the enemy or did a few civilians get killed? Didn't we bomb Germany? Since you are too chicken sh*t to go into combat, are you going to put our families in harms way, trying to filter out the enemy from their families? Obama has been killing families when he uses drone attacks. Do you really think that he has been telling them to leave the house before he bombs the house?

Guest
03-09-2016, 05:53 AM
And yet, you criticize those that have expert knowledge on the subject. Is this typical of your party or just you? Do you figure that you are the only person that has ever had to "make ends meet?"I just think and speak for myself. If I can't back up what I say with with sources I keep my opinion to myself

And all my friends and family were and are busy making ends meet my entire life. What was said that would lead you to think otherwise?

Government officials are expected to understand that when they are saving or sending an email they know exactly where it goes along the way. Is that correct?

When I click on Submit Reply, what happens? If it's easy for you to explain it will be easy to understand.

I've got time now. I'm not busy making ends meet.

Guest
03-09-2016, 08:53 AM
I just think and speak for myself. If I can't back up what I say with with sources I keep my opinion to myself

And all my friends and family were and are busy making ends meet my entire life. What was said that would lead you to think otherwise?

Government officials are expected to understand that when they are saving or sending an email they know exactly where it goes along the way. Is that correct?

When I click on Submit Reply, what happens? If it's easy for you to explain it will be easy to understand.

It is immaterial where an email "goes along the way". What matters is the correct classification of the CONTENT of the email. Why can't you understand that? Others have tried to explain this to you, over and over again, but you just can't seem to grasp the importance of correctly marking classified and sensitive material.

I've got time now. I'm not busy making ends meet.

Why would anyone bother wasting their time trying to educate you?. As they say, people fall into two groups, those that are educable and those that are not. You sir, are in the latter.

Guest
03-09-2016, 09:04 AM
The odds will change once she is indicted.:MOJE_whot:

Your so optimistic, I'll bet your a rubio supporter. lol

Guest
03-09-2016, 09:24 AM
Some of us knew at the end of year one we had an incompetent president.....or being kind(er) just not capable of the job (just being black doesn't make it so!).

But Clinton to suck up the black lemmings is promising an Obama "third term....barf....sorry about that)......

She, like him, does not understand that we the people are sick of Obama and his failed presidency. So to promise more of the same is outright stupid. Dumb enough to think the blacks will roll her into office like they did Obama.

She adds new meaning to stupid and flip flop:

Hillary Clinton vows a third Obama term, but voters are sick of Obama - MarketWatch (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hillary-clinton-vows-a-third-obama-term-but-voters-are-sick-of-obama-2016-03-09)

Guest
03-09-2016, 09:30 AM
Michigan sends Clinton a message.
Michigan where they were forecast minimally double digit landslide win.

She failed to get the most relevant state since the primaries began.

She now has to take note that she has serious competition.

Like him or not....Sanders is the democratic outsider who promises to not continue with more of the same.

And whether democrat or republican, those who are not enslaved to the party, do not want to see more of the same.

Clinton promising more of the same???????????????????????? How stupid is that. She must think she should act like Obama and ignore the sounds coming from the elctorate.

Big difference. He is in office....she is not.

Guest
03-09-2016, 10:32 AM
Some of us knew at the end of year one we had an incompetent president.....or being kind(er) just not capable of the job (just being black doesn't make it so!).

But Clinton to suck up the black lemmings is promising an Obama "third term....barf....sorry about that)......

She, like him, does not understand that we the people are sick of Obama and his failed presidency. So to promise more of the same is outright stupid. Dumb enough to think the blacks will roll her into office like they did Obama.

She adds new meaning to stupid and flip flop:

Hillary Clinton vows a third Obama term, but voters are sick of Obama - MarketWatch (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hillary-clinton-vows-a-third-obama-term-but-voters-are-sick-of-obama-2016-03-09)
Black lemmings? That's rich. Still buying the lemming tale?

'White Wilderness' Faked Lemming Suicides : snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lemmings.asp)

Guest
03-09-2016, 10:45 AM
Black lemmings? That's rich. Still buying the lemming tale?

'White Wilderness' Faked Lemming Suicides : snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lemmings.asp)

Has nothing to do with the post.

Guest
03-09-2016, 10:46 AM
Why would anyone bother wasting their time trying to educate you?. As they say, people fall into two groups, those that are educable and those that are not. You sir, are in the latter.
Read this and tell me what you think.
Security Expert on New Details About Hillary Clinton (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/13/security-expert-on-new-details-about-hillary-clintons-private-email-server-it-violates-the-most-basic-security-tenets/)

It's what I suspected. She has a server in her house. She hires someone to set it up and secure it and it and it wasn't done correctly. And he's not talking. Does that imply her criminal content or just bad judgement? What do you do if you want to work out of your house and you are a high ranking official?

Do you expect her to know what tech support knows?

I'm educable. I have a couple of degrees. Try to add something to the conversation that you didn't write. I'll read it.

Guest
03-09-2016, 10:58 AM
Read this and tell me what you think.
Security Expert on New Details About Hillary Clinton (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/13/security-expert-on-new-details-about-hillary-clintons-private-email-server-it-violates-the-most-basic-security-tenets/)

It's what I suspected. She has a server in her house. She hires someone to set it up and secure it and it and it wasn't done correctly. And he's not talking. Does that imply her criminal content or just bad judgement? What do you do if you want to work out of your house and you are a high ranking official?

Do you expect her to know what tech support knows?

I'm educable. I have a couple of degrees. Try to add something to the conversation that you didn't write. I'll read it.

If you are a high ranking official and the business states you shall use the business computer system, that is what you do.
If you are a high ranking official and you conduct business on your home computer, you will be notified to cease and desist. Continue use will get you fired.

Making the installer the fall guy is most certainly not the answer. As secretary of state she knew what system was supposed to be used. She set hers up anyway. SHE set hers up anyway. No flags were thrown by the state department or homeland security or the pentagon. They all knew of the problem. They all contributed by not putting up the stop sign.
These are the very folks who are aiding and abetting her now, when she states if she goes down others will go with her.

She does not have to know what her tech knows. She knew there was a government server to conduct the business of the state department. She had her private server set up anyway.

A felony and treason.

If you are educatable please do not be duped into laying blame on underlings or contractors. The secretary of state and the US government are wholly responsible for their actions and the actions within their organizations....legal and illegal. Ignorance of what is going on in one's area of responsibility IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE excuse.

Guest
03-09-2016, 11:01 AM
Why would anyone bother wasting their time trying to educate you?. As they say, people fall into two groups, those that are educable and those that are not. You sir, are in the latter.

I googled it.

No results found for
As they say, "people fall into two groups, those that are educable and those that are not."

Here's what they do say:
They Say Quotes - BrainyQuote (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/they_say.html)

Guest
03-09-2016, 11:08 AM
If you are a high ranking official and the business states you shall use the business computer system, that is what you do.
If you are a high ranking official and you conduct business on your home computer, you will be notified to cease and desist. Continue use will get you fired.

Making the installer the fall guy is most certainly not the answer. As secretary of state she knew what system was supposed to be used. She set hers up anyway. SHE set hers up anyway. No flags were thrown by the state department or homeland security or the pentagon. They all knew of the problem. They all contributed by not putting up the stop sign.
These are the very folks who are aiding and abetting her now, when she states if she goes down others will go with her.

She does not have to know what her tech knows. She knew there was a government server to conduct the business of the state department. She had her private server set up anyway.

A felony and treason.

If you are educatable please do not be duped into laying blame on underlings or contractors. The secretary of state and the US government are wholly responsible for their actions and the actions within their organizations....legal and illegal. Ignorance of what is going on in one's area of responsibility IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE excuse.
So it's a fact that she set up her own server and networked it to the state department when all she had to do was VPN into the state department's server. Is that it?

Guest
03-09-2016, 11:14 AM
What does the president do when he's out of town? Can he check his email if he's not in the White House? Can't you see how silly this must sound to someone that is not a security expert?

Guest
03-09-2016, 11:32 AM
Read this and tell me what you think.
Security Expert on New Details About Hillary Clinton (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/13/security-expert-on-new-details-about-hillary-clintons-private-email-server-it-violates-the-most-basic-security-tenets/)

It's what I suspected. She has a server in her house. She hires someone to set it up and secure it and it and it wasn't done correctly. And he's not talking. Does that imply her criminal content or just bad judgement? What do you do if you want to work out of your house and you are a high ranking official?

Do you expect her to know what tech support knows?

I'm educable. I have a couple of degrees. Try to add something to the conversation that you didn't write. I'll read it.

You still don't get it!

- You CANNOT use a personal server to conduct official government business.

- You CANNOT use your own personal devises (PC, Tablet, etc.) to transmit sensitive government correspondence.

- You CANNOT use an internet connection (server) that is not maintained and cleared by the United States government to send sensitive information.

- You CANNOT use anything other than your government assigned email address to send official correspondence. The means that you CANNOT use CenturyLink, GMail, Yahoo, AOL, nor any other email address JUST because it is more convenient for you.

Did you even bother to read the link that you provided? I did, and it either CLEARLY states or implies much of what I have just stated here. You are either unwilling or unable to see the significance of Hillary's blatant security violations...or maybe you are just plain stupid.

I will no longer continue to respond to your posts on this topic - it is obviously pointless.

You, like so many other Liberals, clearly have your head buried in the sand with regard to Hillary and her numerous violations of the law.

Just curious, what academic degrees do you hold?

Guest
03-09-2016, 11:40 AM
You still don't get it!

- You CANNOT use a personal server to conduct official government business.

- You CANNOT use your own personal devises (PC, Tablet, etc.) to transmit sensitive government correspondence.

- You CANNOT use an internet connection (server) that is not maintained and cleared by the United States government to send sensitive information.

- You CANNOT use anything other than your government assigned email address to send official correspondence. The means that you CANNOT use CenturyLink, GMail, Yahoo, AOL, nor any other email address JUST because it is more convenient for you.

Did you even bother to read the link that you provided? I did, and it either CLEARLY states or implies much of what I have just stated here. You are either unwilling or unable to see the significance of Hillary's blatant security violations...or maybe you are just plain stupid.

I will no longer continue to respond to your posts on this topic - it is obviously pointless.

You, like so many other Liberals, clearly have your head buried in the sand with regard to Hillary and her numerous violations of the law.

Just curious, what academic degrees do you hold?

First you have to define and educate them on what "classifed" means. Then you have to explain the benefit to them of National Security, etc.

Guest
03-09-2016, 11:43 AM
So all Hillary had to do was ask someone to install a government computer in her house and all this would have been avoided?

Why is everybody spending millions on this investigation when you figured it out for nothing and manged to explain it so someone you think is stupid.

Guest
03-09-2016, 11:52 AM
So all Hillary had to do was ask someone to install a government computer in her house and all this would have been avoided?

Why is everybody spending millions on this investigation when you figured it out for nothing and manged to explain it TO [not so as previously entered] someone you think is stupid.

Guest
03-09-2016, 12:00 PM
So all Hillary had to do was ask someone to install a government computer in her house and all this would have been avoided?

Why is everybody spending millions on this investigation when you figured it out for nothing and manged to explain it so someone you think is stupid.

You may not be able to grasp the logic, but the government does not install government servers in private residences. They are only installed in secure government facilities which conform to Communication Security (COMSEC) reguirements.

As important as Hillary may be to you liberals, she does not qualify to have her own government server in her New York residence. As lavish as her home may be, it does not meet COMSEC requirements. Sorry.

Guest
03-09-2016, 12:15 PM
Whether or not it was permissible for Clinton to use her personal account to conduct official business as secretary of state, it was probably not a smart move for her to do so—and it also was bad staff work to allow her to evade (partly) the requirement that her emails be maintained within the State Department's system. The rap on the Clintons, fair or not, is that they act outside the rules, that they are excessively secretive, and, in the case of Hillary Clinton, that she has not always surrounded herself with savvy staffers who can prevent problems like this one. Perhaps Clinton was not aware of the rule regarding the preservation of her emails, and maybe the record keepers at Foggy Bottom were slow at the switch. But certainly someone in her circle ought to have been on top of this.

This matter, like anything Hillary-related, immediately has become part of the ongoing life-and-death political slugfest between the Clintons and their detractors. To her critics, it is more proof she is diabolical. To her champions, it is another sign the media and her opponents will trump up anything to thwart her. But this is the sort of problem that a person who was (possibly) running for president the day she entered the State Department should have been able to avoid.

How Hillary Clinton May Have Violated Government Rules on Emails | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/03/hillary-clinton-state-department-emails)

This makes sense.

I wonder why she just didn't have what we use to call a "dumb terminal" installed in her house. Didn't Powell and Rice also receive classified information through personal email accounts?

Guest
03-09-2016, 12:42 PM
Whether or not it was permissible for Clinton to use her personal account to conduct official business as secretary of state, it was probably not a smart move for her to do so—and it also was bad staff work to allow her to evade (partly) the requirement that her emails be maintained within the State Department's system. The rap on the Clintons, fair or not, is that they act outside the rules, that they are excessively secretive, and, in the case of Hillary Clinton, that she has not always surrounded herself with savvy staffers who can prevent problems like this one. Perhaps Clinton was not aware of the rule regarding the preservation of her emails, and maybe the record keepers at Foggy Bottom were slow at the switch. But certainly someone in her circle ought to have been on top of this.

This matter, like anything Hillary-related, immediately has become part of the ongoing life-and-death political slugfest between the Clintons and their detractors. To her critics, it is more proof she is diabolical. To her champions, it is another sign the media and her opponents will trump up anything to thwart her. But this is the sort of problem that a person who was (possibly) running for president the day she entered the State Department should have been able to avoid.

How Hillary Clinton May Have Violated Government Rules on Emails | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/03/hillary-clinton-state-department-emails)

This makes sense.

I wonder why she just didn't have what we use to call a "dumb terminal" installed in her house. Didn't Powell and Rice also receive classified information through personal email accounts?

Had she use a "dumb terminal", her correspondence would still reside in the main server and consequently a matter of public record. As you are probably aware, having her own private server gave Hillary the ability to delete any controversial and potentially incriminating correspondence (32,000 emails in her case) from the server and public record.

This advantage was not lost on Hillary, and is probably why she chose to set up a private server the first place. She has never been able to provide a valid reason for doing so, other than being matter of convenience.

Guest
03-09-2016, 12:55 PM
Many of you who are wondering why she did or did not do what ever seem to be missing one very fundamental point.

She wanter her server to be able to manage and control the content....otherwise she would come under the rules and guidelines of the government server.

Some make it sound like it was a convenience issue. That is partisan BS.

Pure and simple it was knowingly done for Clinton's control of content. Knowing illegal. Knowing nothing done by the powers that be in government that did nothing about it.....but knowingly allowed it to continue.

That is why Clinton is currently safe and under the radar. The list of those who are complicit in what she did is very long and very top heavy.

Do ya think when Obama was communcating with her via email he and his staff knew where the email was going. Hence he is complicit as well.

The ONLY reason she is not in jail now!

Guest
03-09-2016, 01:00 PM
Had she use a "dumb terminal", her correspondence would still reside in the main server and consequently a matter of public record. As you are probably aware, having her own private server gave Hillary the ability to delete any controversial and potentially incriminating correspondence (32,000 emails in her case) from the server and public record.

This advantage was not lost on Hillary, and is probably why she chose to set up a private server the first place. She has never been able to provide a valid reason for doing so, other than being matter of convenience.
Have you read this?
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/

It answers a lot of questions brought up earlier.

for example:
Why did Clinton use her own email account?

When Clinton got to the Department, she opted to use her personal email account as a matter of convenience. It enabled her to reach people quickly and keep in regular touch with her family and friends more easily given her travel schedule.

That is the only reason she used her own account.

Her usage was widely known to the over 100 State Department and U.S. government colleagues she emailed, consistent with the practice of prior Secretaries of State and permitted at the time.

As Clinton has said, in hindsight, it would have been better to just have two accounts. While she thought using one account would be easier, obviously, that has not been the case.

Was it allowed?

Yes. The laws, regulations, and State Department policy in place during her tenure permitted her to use a non-government email for work.

Guest
03-09-2016, 01:37 PM
Have you read this?
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/

It answers a lot of questions brought up earlier.

for example:
Why did Clinton use her own email account?

When Clinton got to the Department, she opted to use her personal email account as a matter of convenience. It enabled her to reach people quickly and keep in regular touch with her family and friends more easily given her travel schedule.

That is the only reason she used her own account.

Her usage was widely known to the over 100 State Department and U.S. government colleagues she emailed, consistent with the practice of prior Secretaries of State and permitted at the time.

As Clinton has said, in hindsight, it would have been better to just have two accounts. While she thought using one account would be easier, obviously, that has not been the case.

Was it allowed?

Yes. The laws, regulations, and State Department policy in place during her tenure permitted her to use a non-government email for work.

I read the article that you referenced. And as you said, it clearly states that employees of the government were allowed to use there personal email accounts at work, provided that no classified information was sent or received on their personal accounts and that any emails send or received had to be sent on a system which allowed archival of those documents for public record.

Unfortunately, at least 32,000 of Hillary's deleted documents did not meet a least one of those requirements (no archival for public record)) and possibly both (the classification of the content). We will never know since they were conveniently deleted and only have her word that none of them were classified. With her track record of lying, I am suspect.

Guest
03-09-2016, 02:07 PM
I read the article that you referenced. And as you said, it clearly states that employees of the government were allowed to use there personal email accounts at work, provided that no classified information was sent or received on their personal accounts and that any emails send or received had to be sent on a system which allowed archival of those documents for public record.

Unfortunately, at least 32,000 of Hillary's deleted documents did not meet a least one of those requirements (no archival for public record)) and possibly both (the classification of the content). We will never know since they were conveniently deleted and only have her word that none of them were classified. With her track record of lying, I am suspect.

I meant "suspicious" not "suspect''.

Guest
03-09-2016, 02:47 PM
I meant "suspicious" not "suspect''.
Why did Clinton decide not to keep her personal emails?

As Clinton has said before, these were private, personal messages, including emails about her daughter's wedding plans, her mother's funeral services and condolence notes, as well as emails on family vacations, yoga routines, and other items one would typically find in their own email account, such as offers from retailers, spam, etc.

Did Clinton delete any emails while facing a subpoena?

No. As noted, the emails that Clinton chose not to keep were personal emails—they were not federal records or even work-related—and therefore were not subject to any preservation obligation under the Federal Records Act or any request. Nor would they have been subject to the subpoena—which did not exist at the time—that was issued by the Benghazi Select Committee some three months later."


She used her own server for both government and personal use. She deleted her personal email. Everything that she sent with a .gov gets saved on a government server.

Is that the rub. Some people suspect she's a traitor and deleted the emails that would be used to prosecute her?

Guest
03-09-2016, 03:03 PM
Why did Clinton decide not to keep her personal emails?

As Clinton has said before, these were private, personal messages, including emails about her daughter's wedding plans, her mother's funeral services and condolence notes, as well as emails on family vacations, yoga routines, and other items one would typically find in their own email account, such as offers from retailers, spam, etc.

Did Clinton delete any emails while facing a subpoena?

No. As noted, the emails that Clinton chose not to keep were personal emails—they were not federal records or even work-related—and therefore were not subject to any preservation obligation under the Federal Records Act or any request. Nor would they have been subject to the subpoena—which did not exist at the time—that was issued by the Benghazi Select Committee some three months later."


She used her own server for both government and personal use. She deleted her personal email. Everything that she sent with a .gov gets saved on a government server.

Is that the rub. Some people suspect she's a traitor and deleted the emails that would be used to prosecute her?

A KNOWN liar has no credability?

Guest
03-09-2016, 03:21 PM
Why did Clinton decide not to keep her personal emails?

As Clinton has said before, these were private, personal messages, including emails about her daughter's wedding plans, her mother's funeral services and condolence notes, as well as emails on family vacations, yoga routines, and other items one would typically find in their own email account, such as offers from retailers, spam, etc.

Did Clinton delete any emails while facing a subpoena?

No. As noted, the emails that Clinton chose not to keep were personal emails—they were not federal records or even work-related—and therefore were not subject to any preservation obligation under the Federal Records Act or any request. Nor would they have been subject to the subpoena—which did not exist at the time—that was issued by the Benghazi Select Committee some three months later."


She used her own server for both government and personal use. She deleted her personal email. Everything that she sent with a .gov gets saved on a government server.

Is that the rub. Some people suspect she's a traitor and deleted the emails that would be used to prosecute her?

It is too bad so many of you believe she did nothing wrong.

Tis a sign of the permissive, don't offend anybody, don't hurt anybody's feelings, all is OK and not illegal until or if one gets caught.

You do know she is protected by Obama and the WH and the wagons are circled. Incriminating and indicting her would suck in too many that knew what was being done was wrong including Obama sending her emails. And did nothing about it.

Where were all the flags that would go up if you or I tried to do something that illegal.....like Petraeus....in jail.

Guest
03-09-2016, 03:54 PM
"Petraeus knowingly handed over classified materials to his biographer, while Clinton followed State Department rules concerning private email use and was unaware of any classified information in her unmarked email correspondence."

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/08/04/conservative-medias-fact-challenged-comparison/204751

I don't want to offend ayone but isn't this true?

Guest
03-09-2016, 03:56 PM
Why did Clinton decide not to keep her personal emails?

As Clinton has said before, these were private, personal messages, including emails about her daughter's wedding plans, her mother's funeral services and condolence notes, as well as emails on family vacations, yoga routines, and other items one would typically find in their own email account, such as offers from retailers, spam, etc.

Since the emails no longer exist there is no way to prove what information the emails contained.

Did Clinton delete any emails while facing a subpoena?

Since no records were kept, we have no way of knowing when Clinton actually deleted them. We only have Hillary's word that she deleted them before she received the subpoena. And even after being served, she denied that she had been subpoenaed.

No. As noted, the emails that Clinton chose not to keep were personal emails—they were not federal records or even work-related—and therefore were not subject to any preservation obligation under the Federal Records Act or any request. Nor would they have been subject to the subpoena—which did not exist at the time—that was issued by the Benghazi Select Committee some three months later."

As you stated, the emails sent through Clinton's private server are not a matter of public record and can not be accessed, a fact well known to Hillary.

She used her own server for both government and personal use. She deleted her personal email. Everything that she sent with a .gov gets saved on a government server.

Using her own server and .gov email address allowed her to pick and choose which emails would become a matter of public record - how convenent for her.

Is that the rub. Some people suspect she's a traitor and deleted the emails that would be used to prosecute her?

The rub is that she is a proven liar and according to Politico, more than 1200 emails have surfaced that have been deemed to be classified.

As I stated in a previous post, I question her truthfulness. The FBI investigation is ongoing, lets see how it plays out.

Guest
03-09-2016, 04:14 PM
"Petraeus knowingly handed over classified materials to his biographer, while Clinton followed State Department rules concerning private email use and was unaware of any classified information in her unmarked email correspondence."

If she was unaware of the sensitive nature (i.e., classification) of content of the more than 1200 emails that she sent and/or received that have been deemed classified, she is either stupid or incompetent, or BOTH! And, the argument that they were not "marked classified" doesn't fly. The information was deemed to be of a sensitive nature at the timed and even a retired State Department clerk typist would have known it.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/08/04/conservative-medias-fact-challenged-comparison/204751

I don't want to offend ayone but isn't this true?

I'm not offended.

Guest
03-09-2016, 04:44 PM
The rub is that she is a proven liar and according to Politico, more than 1200 emails have surfaced that have been deemed to be classified.

As I stated in a previous post, I question her truthfulness. The FBI investigation is ongoing, lets see how it plays out.
Was it in this article?
Hillary Clinton email: FBI contacts Colin Powell as part of probe - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/fbi-colin-powell-email-probe-218748)

I'm anxious to see how it plays out too. My hunch is she will be judged based on criminal intent unless everything was not listed as classified when it was first obtained.

It would be interesting if it came down to Sanders and Trump. Neither one getting money from big business. If it doesn't turn out that way, that would make a great plot.

I enjoy your posts You give me something to think about and look up without being condescending or patronizing.

Guest
03-17-2016, 08:20 PM
Time to give the Republicans their dose of reality.

Electionbettingodds.com is now giving Sec. Clinton a 69.2 percent chance that she will be the next President of the USA.

They are giving Donald Trump a 19.2 percent chance.

:coolsmiley:

Guest
03-17-2016, 08:47 PM
You could have at least started with a SPOILER ALERT.

Guest
03-18-2016, 07:17 AM
Time to give the Republicans their dose of reality.

Electionbettingodds.com is now giving Sec. Clinton a 69.2 percent chance that she will be the next President of the USA.

They are giving Donald Trump a 19.2 percent chance.

:coolsmiley:

And these fake, lying "polls", will convince everyone to vote for one of THEIR bought and paid for candidates. We're such foolish sheep! Believing what professional liars are telling us.

Guest
03-18-2016, 08:30 AM
And these fake, lying "polls", will convince everyone to vote for one of THEIR bought and paid for candidates. We're such foolish sheep! Believing what professional liars are telling us.

BS!

Guest
03-18-2016, 08:46 AM
And these fake, lying "polls", will convince everyone to vote for one of THEIR bought and paid for candidates. We're such foolish sheep! Believing what professional liars are telling us.

No, you are wrong again! Electionbettingodds.com is not a poll. It is actual betting odds from a couple of sites that allow the buying and selling of odds on candidates. Go to the site and read about how it is done.

Guest
03-18-2016, 08:56 AM
Who cares? Do you think that polls or betting odds are going to convince anyone to vote for a scumbag criminal? Unlike libtards, some of us care about our country.

Guest
03-18-2016, 10:18 AM
No, you are wrong again! Electionbettingodds.com is not a poll. It is actual betting odds from a couple of sites that allow the buying and selling of odds on candidates. Go to the site and read about how it is done.

And the above is meant to underscore their credibility?
You surely jest.
Based on what you have presented they could use that technique on any subject and win every time. Like sporting events?

They must all be rich.

BS!

Guest
03-18-2016, 10:48 AM
I wonder how they factored in the black factor?

Black Dems aren’t turning out for Hillary like they did for Obama | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2016/03/18/black-dems-arent-turning-out-for-hillary-like-they-did-for-obama/)

More chinks in the phony armor to come.
More cracks in the dike coming soon.
The average person who usually does right in their daily lives will continue to do so....including democrats who just will not vote for a dishonest, felounious criminal.

Guest
03-18-2016, 10:53 AM
"What is PredictIt?
PredictIt is an exciting new, real money site that tests your knowledge of political and financial events by letting you make and trade predictions on the future.

Taking part in PredictIt is simple and easy. Pick an event you know something about and see what other traders believe is the likelihood it will happen. Do you think they have it right? Or do you think you have the knowledge to beat the wisdom of the crowd?

The key to success at PredictIt is timing. Make your predictions when most people disagree with you and the price is low. When it turns out that your view may be right, the value of your predictions will rise. You’ll need to choose the best time to sell!

Keep in mind that, although the stakes are limited, PredictIt involves real money so the consequences of being wrong can be painful. Of course, winning can also be extra sweet.

For detailed instructions on participating in PredictIt, see How It Works."

https://www.predictit.org/


Who will win the Presidential Election?
Clinton 61˘
Trump 28˘

What exactly does this mean? I don't gamble. Is this correct?
61+28=89 89/61= $1.45 89/28= $3.17
If I bet $100 today and Hillary wins I get $145.
And if I bet on Donald I would get $317 if he wins.

Is that right?

Guest
03-18-2016, 11:02 AM
"What is PredictIt?
PredictIt is an exciting new, real money site that tests your knowledge of political and financial events by letting you make and trade predictions on the future.

Taking part in PredictIt is simple and easy. Pick an event you know something about and see what other traders believe is the likelihood it will happen. Do you think they have it right? Or do you think you have the knowledge to beat the wisdom of the crowd?

The key to success at PredictIt is timing. Make your predictions when most people disagree with you and the price is low. When it turns out that your view may be right, the value of your predictions will rise. You’ll need to choose the best time to sell!

Keep in mind that, although the stakes are limited, PredictIt involves real money so the consequences of being wrong can be painful. Of course, winning can also be extra sweet.

For detailed instructions on participating in PredictIt, see How It Works."

https://www.predictit.org/


Who will win the Presidential Election?
Clinton 61˘
Trump 28˘

What exactly does this mean? I don't gamble. Is this correct?
61+28=89 89/61= $1.45 89/28= $3.17
If I bet $100 today and Hillary wins I get $145.
And if I bet on Donald I would get $317 if he wins.

Is that right?
My math is not right because the numerator is 89. The numerator should be 100----Is that correct?

Guest
03-18-2016, 11:27 AM
Who cares? Do you think that polls or betting odds are going to convince anyone to vote for a scumbag criminal? Unlike libtards, some of us care about our country.
What an idiot. Just vote for Trump and continue whining when he loses.

Guest
03-18-2016, 12:15 PM
It's interesting how all the posts stopped. Was it the gambling site?

Guest
03-18-2016, 01:07 PM
It's interesting how all the posts stopped. Was it the gambling site?

Sentient folks can only tolerate so much BS before abandoning a thread that has gone stupid.

Guest
03-18-2016, 01:23 PM
What an idiot. Just vote for Trump and continue whining when he loses.

Or, you can vote for the traitorous criminal and whine when she goes to jail.

Guest
03-18-2016, 01:51 PM
Or, you can vote for the traitorous criminal and whine when she goes to jail.

......and for what office is Sarah Palin running for this time?

Guest
03-18-2016, 02:06 PM
......and for what office is Sarah Palin running for this time?

You really need to pull your head out of your butt long enough to listen to the news and find out what is going on in the world around you.

Guest
03-18-2016, 03:13 PM
You really need to pull your head out of your butt long enough to listen to the news and find out what is going on in the world around you.

I'll second that.....:thumbup:

Guest
03-18-2016, 04:24 PM
You really need to pull your head out of your butt long enough to listen to the news and find out what is going on in the world around you.

Go play outside now and leave your momma's computer alone.

Guest
03-18-2016, 05:47 PM
Do you think that polls or betting odds are going to convince anyone to vote for a scumbag criminal?
Betting odds don't care who the politician is. It's all business. Ask you father?

Guest
03-19-2016, 05:54 PM
Betting odds don't care who the politician is. It's all business. Ask you father?
You are a sexist! Ask your mother too.

Guest
03-20-2016, 06:29 AM
You really need to pull your head out of your butt long enough to listen to the news and find out what is going on in the world around you.

You won't find out watching/reading "the news". That's all propaganda.

Guest
03-20-2016, 07:27 AM
You won't find out watching/reading "the news". That's all propaganda.

Then stay ignorant. But, shut up and fool everyone around you into thinking you are smart.

Guest
03-20-2016, 09:56 AM
Then stay ignorant. But, shut up and fool everyone around you into thinking you are smart.

Can you carry on a conversation without being so nasty and insulting?

It is easy to be rude to people whle hiding behind your keyboard!!!

Guest
03-20-2016, 10:21 AM
Then stay ignorant. But, shut up and fool everyone around you into thinking you are smart.

I'm not the ignorant one. Please don't believe what comes out of the TV or is in the newspapers, they are far from accurate. They are what someone wants you to believe, nothing more. Many stories have nothing truthful in them at all.

This whole election is theater, all elections are theater. Those in power offer you a "choice" of two hand chosen "candidates" who work for them, not you. They convince you that ONLY one of these two has any chance of winning. You consent to these thieves by voting for them. People as a group are an easily swayed lot. They play you like a fiddle.

I'm not smart, I'm aware.

Guest
03-20-2016, 10:27 AM
I'm not the ignorant one. Please don't believe what comes out of the TV or is in the newspapers, they are far from accurate. They are what someone wants you to believe, nothing more. Many stories have nothing truthful in them at all.

This whole election is theater, all elections are theater. Those in power offer you a "choice" of two hand chosen "candidates" who work for them, not you. They convince you that ONLY one of these two has any chance of winning. You consent to these thieves by voting for them. People as a group are an easily swayed lot. They play you like a fiddle.

I'm not smart, I'm aware.
Thank-goodness. I thought he was talking about me.

Guest
03-20-2016, 10:36 AM
I'm not the ignorant one. Please don't believe what comes out of the TV or is in the newspapers, they are far from accurate. They are what someone wants you to believe, nothing more. Many stories have nothing truthful in them at all.

This whole election is theater, all elections are theater. Those in power offer you a "choice" of two hand chosen "candidates" who work for them, not you. They convince you that ONLY one of these two has any chance of winning. You consent to these thieves by voting for them. People as a group are an easily swayed lot. They play you like a fiddle.

I'm not smart, I'm aware.

So, where do you get your "news"? Please enlighten us oh-great- knowledgeable one.

Guest
03-20-2016, 11:36 AM
Can you carry on a conversation without being so nasty and insulting?

It is easy to be rude to people whle hiding behind your keyboard!!!

It is easy to be acknowledged as intelligent if you spell correctly too. What do you know about the person behind his/her keyboard? The poster made an observation that you apparently didn't like. What was nasty about it and why did you perceive this as being insulting? Are you one of those sensitive liberals?

Guest
03-20-2016, 11:37 AM
So, where do you get your "news"? Please enlighten us oh-great- knowledgeable one.

Be careful or you will be labeled a "nasty and insulting person, hiding behind your keyboard."

Guest
03-20-2016, 11:41 AM
I'm not the ignorant one. Please don't believe what comes out of the TV or is in the newspapers, they are far from accurate. They are what someone wants you to believe, nothing more. Many stories have nothing truthful in them at all.

This whole election is theater, all elections are theater. Those in power offer you a "choice" of two hand chosen "candidates" who work for them, not you. They convince you that ONLY one of these two has any chance of winning. You consent to these thieves by voting for them. People as a group are an easily swayed lot. They play you like a fiddle.

I'm not smart, I'm aware.

Conspiracy theory much??? WOW!...:22yikes:

Guest
03-20-2016, 11:44 AM
Can you carry on a conversation without being so nasty and insulting?

It is easy to be rude to people whle hiding behind your keyboard!!!

Sure, find me an intelligent person to have a conversation with and I will not be "so nasty and insulting." Until then, I guess it will suffice to converse with you.

Guest
03-20-2016, 11:46 AM
Can you carry on a conversation without being so nasty and insulting?

What was nasty about it and why did you perceive this as being insulting? Are you one of those sensitive liberals?

I'll help you.


Then stay ignorant. insult


But, shut up nasty--I don't use that word to describe people--
I think insolent is a better word with the same meaning.

sensitive liberals insult

Guest
03-20-2016, 12:25 PM
Can you carry on a conversation without being so nasty and insulting?



I'll help you.


Then stay ignorant. insult


But, shut up nasty--I don't use that word to describe people--
I think insolent is a better word with the same meaning.

sensitive liberals insult

So, facts are insulting? Oh well, sue me then. I 'm too old to worry about PC.

Guest
03-20-2016, 12:45 PM
So, facts are insulting? Oh well, sue me then. I 'm too old to worry about PC.
Those are opinions. Nobody is going to sue you. I wouldn't worry.

Guest
03-20-2016, 01:04 PM
Those are opinions. Nobody is going to sue you. I wouldn't worry.

I'm not......:icon_wink:

Guest
03-21-2016, 07:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guest View Post
I'm not the ignorant one. Please don't believe what comes out of the TV or is in the newspapers, they are far from accurate. They are what someone wants you to believe, nothing more. Many stories have nothing truthful in them at all.

This whole election is theater, all elections are theater. Those in power offer you a "choice" of two hand chosen "candidates" who work for them, not you. They convince you that ONLY one of these two has any chance of winning. You consent to these thieves by voting for them. People as a group are an easily swayed lot. They play you like a fiddle.

I'm not smart, I'm aware.

Conspiracy theory much??? WOW!...:22yikes:

It's not conspiracy theory, it's a proven fact that the media lies. And you DO have more than two choices. They're playing you for the fool you apparently are.

It's the sheep, the naive sheep, like you, that allows this corrupt system to continue unabated.

Guest
03-21-2016, 09:17 AM
It's not conspiracy theory, it's a proven fact that the media lies. And you DO have more than two choices. They're playing you for the fool you apparently are.

It's the sheep, the naive sheep, like you, that allows this corrupt system to continue unabated.

Since you are so insistent, why don't you humor us and expound on our other choices. You wanted attention, so now you have attention. Enlighten us.

Guest
03-21-2016, 06:15 PM
It's not conspiracy theory, it's a proven fact that the media lies. And you DO have more than two choices. They're playing you for the fool you apparently are.

It's the sheep, the naive sheep, like you, that allows this corrupt system to continue unabated.

and the proof of the naieve sheep allowing unlawful, untrustworthy, felonious liar to represent them in Washington:

Hillary’s Camp Freaking Out As This Video Goes Viral (http://endingthefed.com/hillarys-camp-freaking-out-as-this-video-goes-viral-no-way-to-stop-it-now.html)

Guest
03-21-2016, 08:24 PM
It's not conspiracy theory, it's a proven fact that the media lies. And you DO have more than two choices. They're playing you for the fool you apparently are.

It's the sheep, the naive sheep, like you, that allows this corrupt system to continue unabated.

I would not go as far as media lies, but I will say that they push things in a special kind of way. Donald Trump was a media choice. No one ever has had more free press especially TV than Donald Trump.

Guest
03-21-2016, 09:03 PM
I would not go as far as media lies, but I will say that they push things in a special kind of way. Donald Trump was a media choice. No one ever has had more free press especially TV than Donald Trump.
He's a media choice for the same reason Palin was and is a media choice. You can't get enough of them. You can't believe what they will say next and you know late night will have fun with it.

Guest
03-21-2016, 09:52 PM
The latest polls show either Clinton or Sanders easily beating Trump in November. Just saying.

Best Personal Regards:

Guest
03-21-2016, 10:11 PM
The latest polls show either Clinton or Sanders easily beating Trump in November. Just saying.

Best Personal Regards:
I agree. Put your money where your mouth is.
Just betting.

Guest
03-21-2016, 10:40 PM
The latest polls show either Clinton or Sanders easily beating Trump in November. Just saying.

Best Personal Regards:

Are these better polls than the ones that had Clinton winning Michigan by double digits?

Guest
03-22-2016, 04:26 AM
Polls don't make a difference until you have nominees. Who knows whether or not Hillary will be incarcerated by Nov. Who knows whether or not Trump will be the chosen one by the RNC elite. I wouldn't put my money down until we know for sure, which horses will be in the race.

Guest
03-22-2016, 06:06 AM
Polls don't make a difference until you have nominees. Who knows whether or not Hillary will be incarcerated by Nov. Who knows whether or not Trump will be the chosen one by the RNC elite. I wouldn't put my money down until we know for sure, which horses will be in the race.

Polls don't make ANY difference. "Polls" are a license to lie..."we polled some people and this is what they said"...sure they did! Don't believe what you see on TV or the newspaper.

Guest
03-22-2016, 07:34 AM
These are not polls these are betting. When the Eagles play the Cowboys Vegas doesn't care who wins. I'm not a gambler, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Vegas set the odds so that within the point spread they are more likely to win if either team wins? If it's a blow out no one predicted they could loose.

If you were to take a poll there are probably more philly fans because NJ doesn't have a team so there are more people.

If I'm right then online gambling is where you can put your money where your mouth is and don't need to worry about collecting the bet if you.

Let us know how you bet. That will be a person who really believes their candidate will win. As for me, I'm not as sure as most of you who will win.

Guest
03-22-2016, 08:09 AM
As for me, I'm not as sure as most of you who will win.

Your job isn't to "guess who will win" and vote that way. Your job is to vote for the BEST man and MAKE them win!

You're all so brainwashed...NO D or R candidate will EVER do right by the people. Choosing EITHER guarantees more and more corruption. At least TRY to get someone in there not out to rip us off.

Guest
03-22-2016, 08:25 AM
Why waste the energy of even making a wild a$$ guess without knowing who is in the contest?

Guest
03-22-2016, 09:22 AM
Why waste the energy of even making a wild a$$ guess without knowing who is in the contest?
Because the odds are better now. It's just gambling, nothing personal.

Guest
03-22-2016, 10:10 AM
Your job isn't to "guess who will win" and vote that way. Your job is to vote for the BEST man and MAKE them win!

You're all so brainwashed...NO D or R candidate will EVER do right by the people. Choosing EITHER guarantees more and more corruption. At least TRY to get someone in there not out to rip us off.

I agree with you, however that is not how America works as of this time. The only person running who could start making real changes is Sanders. He has the history of proposing such but it will take years to throw out those whose whole lives revolve around Washington.

Trump talks crap and will divide this country even more, if possible. What we sincerely do not need is a billionaire president.

Guest
03-22-2016, 11:20 AM
I agree with you, however that is not how America works as of this time. The only person running who could start making real changes is Sanders. He has the history of proposing such but it will take years to throw out those whose whole lives revolve around Washington.

Trump talks crap and will divide this country even more, if possible. What we sincerely do not need is a billionaire president.

NO, what we do NOT need is a Socialist president. Socialism is ANTI-American and the enemy of the U.S. Sanders is a pervert and lazy. He is an insult to ALL Americans and good people as a whole. If you support him, then you are either an idiot or the enemy.

Guest
03-22-2016, 12:07 PM
[QUOTE=Guest;1202251 The only person running who could start making real changes is Sanders. He has the history of proposing such but it will take years to throw out those whose whole lives revolve around Washington.
[/QUOTE]
You knew the reaction you would get. Everyone sticks to their script. I don't think Bernie ever thought he would win. I think Bernie's is spending the rest of his life trying to get people to see how different we are today then 30 or 40 years ago when America was great. Donald also sends the message that the very wealthy are pulling the strings and that needs to change. If you support Donald whether you like it or not, you support Bernie.

This is why so many on these threads are angry. It's inconsistent with past practice. Either you agree you were conned before by big business or you vote outside the party and that doesn't feel right either. It's Donald's greatest deal. He's got everyone cornered.

If I really thought he could use this kind of deal making to make America great again I will vote for him. I haven't decided.

This election is like watching the movie :The Usual Suspects". At the end of the movie Spacey transforms himself and you realize he was conning everyone all along, a true genius.

Guest
03-22-2016, 12:12 PM
I'll bet that Huckabee wins the presidential election.

Guest
03-22-2016, 12:20 PM
I'll bet that Huckabee wins the presidential election.
I'm still laughing at your last post'

And Huckabee is also funny. "Huckabee joked with supporters that he was ending the campaign because of illness: “Voters are sick of me,” he quipped.

Guest
03-22-2016, 02:43 PM
I'm still laughing at your last post'

And Huckabee is also funny. "Huckabee joked with supporters that he was ending the campaign because of illness: “Voters are sick of me,” he quipped.

Smart, funny and decent man. We should be so lucky to have him as a leader.

Guest
03-22-2016, 06:15 PM
Smart, funny and decent man. We should be so lucky to have him as a leader.

I disagree. He is against same sex marriage, against gay adoptions,against abortion in all cases, and his record on women's issues is abysmal. He even said women should submit graciously to the leadership of their husbands. What century is the guy living in. No wonder he has never gotten too far in his presidential runs. He is out of touch with mainstream America b

Guest
03-22-2016, 07:21 PM
Just think of it. There are serious allegations surrounding Hillary Clinton from Benghazi to her personal e-mail server to the Clinton Charitable foundation that have been under investigation for sometime now and all of it seems to be stalled, in limbo, Why? The Clinton people's line will be because it is all a right wing conspiracy. All of it bupkus.

But yet the allegations ring true. And we know she used a personal server and we know that SAP information the highest of the highest confidential information passed through her server. We know Benghazi was not well fortified nor was help sent to rescue Americans. We know the Clinton's through their foundation are now multi-millionaires.

Yet no one moves. So is the government so corrupt that one of the political class because she is the political class is above the law? Wasn't the rule of law to apply to everyone? Is that why Fast & furious sits in the evidence room along with the IRS scandal, etc?

Liberal journalists took joy in exposing Richard Nixon, where are they now?

So we find useful idiots clamoring for their Queen to ascend to the throne
and allowing government continuing its corruption that someday ill reach every American citizen.

Personal Best Regard:
Hillary Clinton can be slapped with a number of unlawful things, but you know what, at the end of the day, and I haven't heard anyone anywhere talk about it, the unthinkable, the last straw, the straw that broke the camel's back, the Who would have Thunk it, "OBAMA PARDONS HER". There it is out on the table for all to comment about, Let' Hear It! :1rotfl:

Guest
03-22-2016, 07:45 PM
Hillary Clinton can be slapped with a number of unlawful things, but you know what, at the end of the day, and I haven't heard anyone anywhere talk about it, the unthinkable, the last straw, the straw that broke the camel's back, the Who would have Thunk it, "OBAMA PARDONS HER". There it is out on the table for all to comment about, Let' Hear It! :1rotfl:
It was inferred the day she said in the debate "don't worry about , that's not going to happen" or words to that effect.

Unless you were joking. It's hard to tell.

Guest
03-23-2016, 04:16 AM
I disagree. He is against same sex marriage, against gay adoptions,against abortion in all cases, and his record on women's issues is abysmal. He even said women should submit graciously to the leadership of their husbands. What century is the guy living in. No wonder he has never gotten too far in his presidential runs. He is out of touch with mainstream America b

So far, you haven't said anything negative about him. You said all the things that I like about him.

Guest
03-23-2016, 06:47 AM
So far, you haven't said anything negative about him. You said all the things that I like about him.


Being anti women is not something I would be bragging about....

Guest
03-23-2016, 06:58 AM
Obama is not a Muslim, the media has no liberal bias, and Hillary is not going to jail. Fox News can tell you that a million times but it doesn't make it true. Get over it.

Trump will be the republican candidate and Hillary will be our next president. Even the republican party knows this.

Guest
03-23-2016, 07:18 AM
Obama is not a Muslim, the media has no liberal bias, and Hillary is not going to jail. Fox News can tell you that a million times but it doesn't make it true. Get over it.

Trump will be the republican candidate and Hillary will be our next president. Even the republican party knows this.

Sure he is, he was raised a Muslim.

The media IS biased, whomever pays the most gets the story their way.

You're probably right, it just goes to show HOW corrupt the "two" party system really is.

The "news" is propaganda, it's there to "sell you" something.

And why will Hillary win? Because the general public are too easily manipulated and/or stupid to be trusted with such a decision. we're no better than the "tribesman" women that are paraded around on TV to show how "democratic" the latest US overthrown country is. Grab a peasant with NO idea what's going on and have them "vote". Or, here in the US, grab a ghetto dwelling single mother of 15 with no clue about ANYTHING, and have her cast her vote. What a joke.

Vote for who you WANT to win, not the liar and cheats that THEY place in front of you. Don't believe their BS that ONLY one of their two people are "electable".

We're too stupid to govern ourselves, it's more evident every day, we deserve to be treated like cattle, like sheep.

Guest
03-23-2016, 08:23 AM
Sure he is, he was raised a Muslim.

The media IS biased, whomever pays the most gets the story their way.

You're probably right, it just goes to show HOW corrupt the "two" party system really is.

The "news" is propaganda, it's there to "sell you" something.

And why will Hillary win? Because the general public are too easily manipulated and/or stupid to be trusted with such a decision. we're no better than the "tribesman" women that are paraded around on TV to show how "democratic" the latest US overthrown country is. Grab a peasant with NO idea what's going on and have them "vote". Or, here in the US, grab a ghetto dwelling single mother of 15 with no clue about ANYTHING, and have her cast her vote. What a joke.

Vote for who you WANT to win, not the liar and cheats that THEY place in front of you. Don't believe their BS that ONLY one of their two people are "electable".

We're too stupid to govern ourselves, it's more evident every day, we deserve to be treated like cattle, like sheep.

You are just as bad as those you criticize. Go ahead and waste your vote. It's your prerogative. You claim everyone else is stupid for voting for one of two, and that you are going to vote for YOUR choice, which is someone else. Well, guess what. You are doing exactly what they are doing, only your vote is totally wasted. But, have at it.

Guest
03-23-2016, 08:29 AM
Being anti women is not something I would be bragging about....

Congratulations, you have proven that you are either ignorant of facts, or just stupid. Huck has never been anti-women. He has treated them better than any candidate and definitely better than the CLintons. By the way, you took his comment out of context, but I bet you didn't know it. I bet you are just parroting what someone else told you. He was quoting the Bible. But, it really doesn't matter does it? He is not running for president. Some people are stupid, even when it doesn't even count....:a040:

Guest
03-23-2016, 09:49 AM
Some people are stupid, even when it doesn't even count....:a040:
At last we have something we can all agree on.

Guest
04-20-2016, 07:32 AM
Just to bring the Republicans and Tea Party up to speed on the election betting odds.

There is a 71.2 possibility that Hillary Clinton will be the next President!

There is a 15.9 percent chance of Donald Trump being the next President.

There is a 5 percent chance of Rafael Cruz being the next President.

I have my money on Hillary!

Guest
04-20-2016, 07:47 AM
Just to bring the Republicans and Tea Party up to speed on the election betting odds.

There is a 71.2 possibility that Hillary Clinton will be the next President!

There is a 15.9 percent chance of Donald Trump being the next President.

There is a 5 percent chance of Rafael Cruz being the next President.

I have my money on Hillary!

One can buy racing sheets at the horse track with the odds on all the horses running.

That does not document they will win.

And a lot less science is deployed coming up with the biased BS predictions for this or any other election.

Just keep in mind the odds of Clinton winning Michigan by double digits. And how that worked out!!

Guest
04-20-2016, 07:49 AM
Just to bring the Republicans and Tea Party up to speed on the election betting odds.

There is a 71.2 possibility that Hillary Clinton will be the next President!

There is a 15.9 percent chance of Donald Trump being the next President.

There is a 5 percent chance of Rafael Cruz being the next President.

I have my money on Hillary!

She is the best candidate so far as far as practical proposals are concerned. I do like Kasich quite a bit more than Clinton with all her baggage such as William Jefferson Clinton but cannot see Kasich coming out of the GOP Convention as the reasonable opponent to Clinton.

Guest
04-20-2016, 08:01 AM
She is the best candidate so far as far as practical proposals are concerned. I do like Kasich quite a bit more than Clinton with all her baggage such as William Jefferson Clinton but cannot see Kasich coming out of the GOP Convention as the reasonable opponent to Clinton.

You mean being a compulsive liar and felon is now called being practical?

And in the hookers international club a virgin is a woman with 6 kids!!!

Guest
04-20-2016, 08:04 AM
Just to bring the Republicans and Tea Party up to speed on the election betting odds.

There is a 71.2 possibility that Hillary Clinton will be the next President!

There is a 15.9 percent chance of Donald Trump being the next President.

There is a 5 percent chance of Rafael Cruz being the next President.

I have my money on Hillary!

Because people are idiots...they JOIN the crowd, the "winning team"...instead of making their own team win. If you can't beat them, join them is defeatist.

She is the best candidate so far as far as practical proposals are concerned. I do like Kasich quite a bit more than Clinton with all her baggage such as William Jefferson Clinton but cannot see Kasich coming out of the GOP Convention as the reasonable opponent to Clinton.

THEY want her there because they know, just like Obama, the money will keep flowing!

It's surreal, you people talk about these candidates like you know them personally or they're some character on a TV show, a soap opera, and you're predicting how the show will go.

We're doomed...

Guest
04-20-2016, 08:33 AM
Because people are idiots...they JOIN the crowd, the "winning team"...instead of making their own team win. If you can't beat them, join them is defeatist.



THEY want her there because they know, just like Obama, the money will keep flowing!

It's surreal, you people talk about these candidates like you know them personally or they're some character on a TV show, a soap opera, and you're predicting how the show will go.

We're doomed...

How are Donald Trump and the other Republicans any different? I really do not see The Donald fighting for anyone except his own interests.

And there is nothing wrong with big business continuing to earn many people money as long as there is some Rule of Law and proper checks-and-balances. This country will be in the land of the Rule of Trump rather than the respect for the US Constitution if Donald Trump becomes President.

And this is anything but a soap opera.

Guest
04-20-2016, 08:46 AM
She is the best candidate so far as far as practical proposals are concerned. I do like Kasich quite a bit more than Clinton with all her baggage such as William Jefferson Clinton but cannot see Kasich coming out of the GOP Convention as the reasonable opponent to Clinton.

Name some of her "practical proposals." Heck, I doubt you can name one, other than getting rid of all classification markings, making it easier to transmit national security information over the unsecured Internet. If she gets elected, she will serve from behind bars. But, I doubt she will get elected. She can hardly beat Bernie, a professed socialist. The Independent voter will be voting Republican this time. She won't have a black turn out. She won't have Bernie's young vote and she will hardly get the women voters to turn out for her. They are smarter than you, in that they recognize a blatant liar.

Guest
04-20-2016, 09:54 AM
And if NY were not a closed primary and the independents could vote they would have voted for Bernie.

In the national election the independents that follow Bernie will not vote for Clinton.

Clinto just barely stayed ahead of Bernie in the preliminary rounds.

If she makes it to nomination and if Trump makes it to nomination it will be a completely different race.

With Trump's new political saavy hires and the campaign focus shifts to Clinton, they will remove her tonsils via her backside and she will not know what hit her.

Trump will not tip toe around Clinton like Bernie did.

Guest
04-20-2016, 09:56 AM
And if NY were not a closed primary and the independents could vote they would have voted for Bernie.

In the national election the independents that follow Bernie will not vote for Clinton.

Clinto just barely stayed ahead of Bernie in the preliminary rounds.

If she makes it to nomination and if Trump makes it to nomination it will be a completely different race.

With Trump's new political saavy hires and the campaign focus shifts to Clinton, they will remove her tonsils via her backside and she will not know what hit her.

Trump will not tip toe around Clinton like Bernie did.

Totally agree.....:thumbup:

Guest
04-20-2016, 10:38 AM
How are Donald Trump and the other Republicans any different? I really do not see The Donald fighting for anyone except his own interests.

And there is nothing wrong with big business continuing to earn many people money as long as there is some Rule of Law and proper checks-and-balances. This country will be in the land of the Rule of Trump rather than the respect for the US Constitution if Donald Trump becomes President.

And this is anything but a soap opera.

Sometimes, it's too bad it's anonymous... You'd know that I think the whole Trump presidency is a "show". He's great on TV. I don't know his true intentions. His bucket list? Be president. To show everyone he's "smart"? To help his friend Hillary win? He's "one of them" himself. Has he agreed to donate all his wealth to charity upon death? Wasn't he a liberal at one time? Who are his friends? Bankers? Goldman?

I think it IS all a soap opera, kabuki theater, a scripted reality show. Nothing of substance, just the drama of people arguing.

No matter who wins, the thievery and corruption will go on. We'll keep spending more than a $ trillion a year that we don't have to spend.

Turn off that damn lying TV. Stop having "your" opinion beat into your head through repetition. The TV is the propaganda spreader. Open to the highest bidder. You pay it, we'll play it! Bread and circus for the ignorant rabble.

Guest
04-20-2016, 11:05 AM
Sometimes, it's too bad it's anonymous... You'd know that I think the whole Trump presidency is a "show". He's great on TV. I don't know his true intentions. His bucket list? Be president. To show everyone he's "smart"? To help his friend Hillary win? He's "one of them" himself. Has he agreed to donate all his wealth to charity upon death? Wasn't he a liberal at one time? Who are his friends? Bankers? Goldman?

I think it IS all a soap opera, kabuki theater, a scripted reality show. Nothing of substance, just the drama of people arguing.

No matter who wins, the thievery and corruption will go on. We'll keep spending more than a $ trillion a year that we don't have to spend.

Turn off that damn lying TV. Stop having "your" opinion beat into your head through repetition. The TV is the propaganda spreader. Open to the highest bidder. You pay it, we'll play it! Bread and circus for the ignorant rabble.

And Chicken Little says "the sky is falling, the sky is falling."

Guest
04-20-2016, 11:34 AM
And Chicken Little says "the sky is falling, the sky is falling."

Everything is just peachy...as you sit and stare at the TV in your hyperglycemic diabetic trance.

Guest
04-20-2016, 12:12 PM
Everything is just peachy...as you sit and stare at the TV in your hyperglycemic diabetic trance.

Sorry to disillusion you, friend but the only pills I take are vitamins. I watch TV in the morning for the local news (liberal channels) and then I watch a bit of news around supper time(FOX and The Five). Then, I sit down with my wife and watch some shows for a couple hours in the evening. Nothing more. I have a lot of projects to do during the day, and try to fit in some sports activity or bike riding when I can. But, I want you to feel all warm and fuzzy by thinking that I am like you, in that I waste time complaining about how bad everything is in your life. By the way, in case you are wondering, I am waiting for some paint to dry and I am thinking about taking a ride to the hardware store. My wife is out playing Mahjong with a group of ladies. Is that enough information for you, or do you want to know what I am having for dinner. I have a crock pot of chili con carnie bubbling away, and I am contemplating whether or not I used up enough calories today to warrant having some corn muffins with supper.

So, you just keep imagining the worst in people and the government and how life is treating you, while the rest of us enjoy our retirement. Isn't it great?

Guest
04-20-2016, 12:30 PM
Sorry to disillusion you, friend but the only pills I take are vitamins. I watch TV in the morning for the local news (liberal channels) and then I watch a bit of news around supper time(FOX and The Five). Then, I sit down with my wife and watch some shows for a couple hours in the evening. Nothing more. I have a lot of projects to do during the day, and try to fit in some sports activity or bike riding when I can. But, I want you to feel all warm and fuzzy by thinking that I am like you, in that I waste time complaining about how bad everything is in your life. By the way, in case you are wondering, I am waiting for some paint to dry and I am thinking about taking a ride to the hardware store. My wife is out playing Mahjong with a group of ladies. Is that enough information for you, or do you want to know what I am having for dinner. I have a crock pot of chili con carnie bubbling away, and I am contemplating whether or not I used up enough calories today to warrant having some corn muffins with supper.

So, you just keep imagining the worst in people and the government and how life is treating you, while the rest of us enjoy our retirement. Isn't it great?

Who are you trying to convince...us or yourself?

You're being manipulated, every day. Marketers. Advertisers. Public relations people. If you don't mistrust the government, you're a fool.

I'm busy too, but I like my "me time". And right now, I'm wasting it on you.

All I ask is that you question what is being fed to you on the TV. It is SO hard to have the things you REALLY, DEEPLY believed through life, destroyed. Most people don't take it well and go down kicking and screaming.

All I ask is that you question the status quo.

Guest
04-20-2016, 07:00 PM
Hillary Clinton is now showing her the favorite of being our next President by the oddsmakers at 54.7 percent.

Trump is coming in at 24.4 percent.

This is not to be a political comment but just how the professional oddsmakers are calling it right now. It may have an uptick or downtick after March 15.
Go to https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.107373419
It's betting parlor website. Since I don't bet on anything I don't know how to read it. Maybe you do.

Using the numbers if you bet $1,000 on Hillary to win and she does would would you win?
How about Sanders?
Trump?
Cruz?

Guest
04-20-2016, 07:04 PM
Go to https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.107373419
It's betting parlor website. Since I don't bet on anything I don't know how to read it. Maybe you do.

Using the numbers if you bet $1,000 on Hillary to win and she does would would you win?
How about Sanders?
Trump?
Cruz?I butchered a couple of words. Let me try again.

Go to https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.107373419
It's A betting parlor website. Since I don't bet on anything I don't know how to read it. Maybe you do.

Using the numbers if you bet $1,000 on Hillary to win and she does, HOW MUCH would you win?
How about Sanders?
Trump?
Cruz?

THANK-YOU

Guest
04-23-2016, 12:22 PM
Rejoice, grumpy old men in The Villages!

Hillary Clinton is now being shown as having a 72.2 percent chance of being the next President.

The Trumpster is coming in second at 16.4 percent.

No matter what you grumpy old men say about Mrs. Clinton, you had better get used to calling her Madam President!

Guest
04-23-2016, 12:59 PM
Rejoice, grumpy old men in The Villages!

Hillary Clinton is now being shown as having a 72.2 percent chance of being the next President.

The Trumpster is coming in second at 16.4 percent.

No matter what you grumpy old men say about Mrs. Clinton, you had better get used to calling her Madam President!

I'm happy for you, the lazy. No use turning out to vote then, since your witch has already won. Go ahead and celebrate. It will be you paying for her coronation and future, not me. Hope you enjoy getting exactly what you wish for. Have you remodeled her jail cell for her yet? Make sure there is room enough for her staff. I understand that the Feds are offering amnesty to her staff that are willing to testify against her. So, she will probably have to get some new faces. Think of what she will be doing to further the woman's advancement. All her staff will be fellow female prisoners. :police:

Guest
04-23-2016, 01:38 PM
I'm happy for you, the lazy. No use turning out to vote then, since your witch has already won. Go ahead and celebrate. It will be you paying for her coronation and future, not me. Hope you enjoy getting exactly what you wish for. Have you remodeled her jail cell for her yet? Make sure there is room enough for her staff. I understand that the Feds are offering amnesty to her staff that are willing to testify against her. So, she will probably have to get some new faces. Think of what she will be doing to further the woman's advancement. All her staff will be fellow female prisoners. :police:

And here is a bit of news that should make all of HRC`s Female friends smile : In prison no matter if it is a State or Federal facility there is complete wage equality !
Meaning that both Males and Females in the system get paid the same approximate 34 cents per hour . Now that`s equality !

Guest
04-23-2016, 02:29 PM
And here is a bit of news that should make all of HRC`s Female friends smile : In prison no matter if it is a State or Federal facility there is complete wage equality !
Meaning that both Males and Females in the system get paid the same approximate 34 cents per hour . Now that`s equality !

:thumbup:

Guest
04-23-2016, 09:45 PM
I'm happy for you, the lazy. No use turning out to vote then, since your witch has already won. Go ahead and celebrate. It will be you paying for her coronation and future, not me. Hope you enjoy getting exactly what you wish for. Have you remodeled her jail cell for her yet? Make sure there is room enough for her staff. I understand that the Feds are offering amnesty to her staff that are willing to testify against her. So, she will probably have to get some new faces. Think of what she will be doing to further the woman's advancement. All her staff will be fellow female prisoners. :police:

The only one going to prison is child molester Denny Hastert - a Republican!

Of course, if Cheney or Crapweasel ever leave the USA, they will be arrested and brought to trial before the World Court for war crimes.

Guest
04-23-2016, 10:02 PM
The only one going to prison is child molester Denny Hastert - a Republican!

Of course, if Cheney or Crapweasel ever leave the USA, they will be arrested and brought to trial before the World Court for war crimes.

Are you capable of commenting without name calling ? Just curious .

Guest
04-23-2016, 10:45 PM
Are you capable of commenting without name calling ? Just curious .

No they are not.

They remain big mouthy and bold behind their key board.

Anonymity also allows big talk.

In a real live setting they will be off to the side with no comment!

Guest
04-24-2016, 03:44 AM
The only one going to prison is child molester Denny Hastert - a Republican!

Of course, if Cheney or Crapweasel ever leave the USA, they will be arrested and brought to trial before the World Court for war crimes.

Not too bright, are you? The Bush's have been traveling to Africa frequently, doing some outstanding work in the fight against HIV/AIDS, and rebuilding clinics, cancer screening, etc. I suppose his arrest has been put off until a TBD, right? Or, maybe you are full of BS and a lot of wishful thinking. Let me guess, you have never served your country, right? Never mind answering, because I am sure it would just be another lie.

By the way, if you don't believe me, ask YOUR current president. He had some good words to say about Bush's work in Africa.

Guest
04-24-2016, 05:36 AM
Not too bright, are you? The Bush's have been traveling to Africa frequently, doing some outstanding work in the fight against HIV/AIDS, and rebuilding clinics, cancer screening, etc. I suppose his arrest has been put off until a TBD, right? Or, maybe you are full of BS and a lot of wishful thinking. Let me guess, you have never served your country, right? Never mind answering, because I am sure it would just be another lie.

By the way, if you don't believe me, ask YOUR current president. He had some good words to say about Bush's work in Africa.

If we're all "equal", why does africa/africans always need so much help?

Guest
04-24-2016, 05:50 AM
If we're all "equal", why does africa/africans always need so much help?

Sorry friend, but I have never made a statement suggesting that everyone is equal. That would be a lie.

Guest
04-24-2016, 07:52 AM
Sorry friend, but I have never made a statement suggesting that everyone is equal. That would be a lie.


Nice to see others admit we're not all equal. Besides religion, THE great lie.

Guest
04-24-2016, 09:28 AM
The only one going to prison is child molester Denny Hastert - a Republican!

Of course, if Cheney or Crapweasel ever leave the USA, they will be arrested and brought to trial before the World Court for war crimes.

Unlike your side our side would very much wish for the former Speaker to be sent to prison if he were to be found Guilty .
However the Statute of Limitations for any sexual crimes has passed in his Case .
Yet he can and most likely will be found Guilty of a form of currency violations for systematically taking over $10,000 out of his accounts in small amounts .
The practice is termed " structuring " and it is a Federal Crime .
Now if he were a Democrat we would have to listen to weeks on end of protests and talking heads on TV etc . Instead you hear just about NOTHING because Republican`s recognize that when someone has done wrong they should face the consequences . :police:

Guest
04-24-2016, 09:41 AM
Equality is a relative, meaningless measure used by politicians and the media for agenda gain.

Nothing more.

Why are we not protesting having to stand in long security lines in airports and then like cattel onto the holding pens called airplanes. When others have a private plane and a private little building with no crowds, free food and booze waiting for their private airplane that can take 10 or 12 but usually just 2-4?

Is that not dicrimination of the highest order?

Of course it is not. It is nothing more, like it or not, than the case of the haves and have nots. Those who earned it or inherited it. No matter; they have it.

The politicians and special interest and minority groups would have all they are courting have what the rest of us earned or inherited....whether they worked a day in their lives or not; whether they earned it or not. They just want it.

And once that class of people is created the politicians and the special interest and minority groups then begin to cultivate the have notd into believing they are entitled to that which they only have to extend a hand or complain to get. And soon these folks beget more of the same. They beget families that only know how to get what they have from somebody else.
And eventually the takers out number the givers. Then the real inequality and squalor begins to set in. We are in the midst of that here in America.

America is....like it or not ....on the down swing. America will eventually run out of money. America will eventually be run by the few that have little more than everybody else but they would have it. And they will have no interest what so ever in seeing to it that others get their share.

Wquality is a failed political process here in America tha is being supported and sponsored by the politicians merely to get elected or re-elected.
The lemmings are too stupid to see what is happening.
No matter how bad it is or will get there will always be those from countries that have significantly less and will keep coming to America to partake os the good life.

How appropriate the following is:

"Now, 10 years later, the person who talked and complained is still talking and complaining and still remains in the same position. The person who took the initiative and found solutions has been promoted several times."
Catherine Pulsifer

Guest
04-24-2016, 09:43 AM
Unlike your side our side would very much wish for the former Speaker to be sent to prison if he were to be found Guilty .
However the Statute of Limitations for any sexual crimes has passed in his Case .
Yet he can and most likely will be found Guilty of a form of currency violations for systematically taking over $10,000 out of his accounts in small amounts .
The practice is termed " structuring " and it is a Federal Crime .
Now if he were a Democrat we would have to listen to weeks on end of protests and talking heads on TV etc . Instead you hear just about NOTHING because Republican`s recognize that when someone has done wrong they should face the consequences . :police:

:thumbup:.......and the Clinton's continue to enjoy total hands off amnesty for all their crimes. Oh yes, the administration is going through the window dressing and smoke and mirrors to make everyone think that they are fair and just. Killary will just laugh her witch cackle and move on to her next criminal activity. The whole family are a bunch of crooks, and they are enjoying a great laugh at the dumb liberals that support them. Like Killary likes to say "but we are fighting FOR you, ha, ha, ha, ha,"

Guest
04-24-2016, 11:47 AM
How appropriate the following is:

"Now, 10 years later, the person who talked and complained is still talking and complaining and still remains in the same position. The person who took the initiative and found solutions has been promoted several times."
Catherine Pulsiferor this:
"The Ruling Class In Every Age Have Tried To Impose A False View Of The World Upon Their Followers"
~George Orwell

Guest
04-24-2016, 12:02 PM
or this:
"The Ruling Class In Every Age Have Tried To Impose A False View Of The World Upon Their Followers"
~George Orwell

And they succeed...we do live in a matrix. Not a software reality but a propaganda reality.

The populace is so fooled...it's no wonder everyone is screwed up and taking drugs!

Practically nothing you believe in, is real.

The money system is a big ponzi based on credit and faith.

Government is the liaison between the ruling corporations and the people.

Religion...all of it...is a fraud to get 10% from you. And a LOT of power!

Everybody lies. It's sad really.

Guest
04-24-2016, 01:33 PM
And they succeed...we do live in a matrix. Not a software reality but a propaganda reality.

The populace is so fooled...it's no wonder everyone is screwed up and taking drugs!

Practically nothing you believe in, is real.

The money system is a big ponzi based on credit and faith.

Government is the liaison between the ruling corporations and the people.

Religion...all of it...is a fraud to get 10% from you. And a LOT of power!

Everybody lies. It's sad really.

Sadly my friend I believe that you are correct . There is really very little difference between the two major political parties . The leaders of each like to pretend that there are major fundamental differences but in reality there is not .

Guest
04-24-2016, 03:18 PM
or this:
"The Ruling Class In Every Age Have Tried To Impose A False View Of The World Upon Their Followers"
~George Orwell

Ah yes, Mr. Orwell the great FICTION writer.

Guest
04-24-2016, 03:25 PM
And they succeed...we do live in a matrix. Not a software reality but a propaganda reality.

The populace is so fooled...it's no wonder everyone is screwed up and taking drugs!

Practically nothing you believe in, is real.

The money system is a big ponzi based on credit and faith.

Government is the liaison between the ruling corporations and the people.

Religion...all of it...is a fraud to get 10% from you. And a LOT of power!

Everybody lies. It's sad really.

SO???? Life's a b*tch and then you die, is that it? Get over it. Learn to live within your limitations and be happy. Complain to someone that is paid to care and maybe they will give you a happy pill. I've lived some very interesting years and I plan to enjoy the years I have remaining, whether they be one year or thirty years. You do what you can to make this country better, and then you leave it up to GOD to carry you the rest of the way to the finishing line. People get tired of whiners. There is absolutely no logical reason to stress over things that are beyond your control.

Get out and vote for the best available that you think will do the most at protecting our country and the American way.

Guest
04-24-2016, 03:32 PM
Just get used to the fact that the next President of the USA will be
HILLARY CLINTON.

Trump is a sexist and racist. His own party does not want him. The Republican Party is destroyed.

Guest
04-24-2016, 04:12 PM
Just get used to the fact that the next President of the USA will be
HILLARY CLINTON.

Trump is a sexist and racist. His own party does not want him. The Republican Party is destroyed.

Maybe some in the Republican party could be construed as discerning. And some in the Democrat party will still vote for Hillary after overwhelming proof that she is a criminal, liar and not loyal to her people. What does that make a voter that will pull the lever for Hillary? I am afraid to ask.

You could be right about the Republican party being destroyed, but why don't you answer this question: What happened to the Democratic party? Notice I said Democratic Party. The party of my father. Now, it is known as the Democrat party, the liberal party or the socialist party, but not the Democratic party of old. So, it appears that while you laugh at the demise of the Republican party, your party is defunct and has been for a couple decades. Why don't we all have a big laugh about that?

Guest
04-24-2016, 08:00 PM
Just think of it. There are serious allegations surrounding Hillary Clinton from Benghazi to her personal e-mail server to the Clinton Charitable foundation that have been under investigation for sometime now and all of it seems to be stalled, in limbo, Why? The Clinton people's line will be because it is all a right wing conspiracy. All of it bupkus.

But yet the allegations ring true. And we know she used a personal server and we know that SAP information the highest of the highest confidential information passed through her server. We know Benghazi was not well fortified nor was help sent to rescue Americans. We know the Clinton's through their foundation are now multi-millionaires.

Yet no one moves. So is the government so corrupt that one of the political class because she is the political class is above the law? Wasn't the rule of law to apply to everyone? Is that why Fast & furious sits in the evidence room along with the IRS scandal, etc?

Liberal journalists took joy in exposing Richard Nixon, where are they now?

So we find useful idiots clamoring for their Queen to ascend to the throne
and allowing government continuing its corruption that someday ill reach every American citizen.

Personal Best Regard:

are these issues that matter in deciding the election. Benghazi was a tragedy, but she is not to blame. Republicans will stop at nothing to politicize the event. The email "scandal" is anything but, etc. Go back to Fox News where reality is suspended on a daily basis.

Guest
04-25-2016, 05:39 AM
are these issues that matter in deciding the election. Benghazi was a tragedy, but she is not to blame. Republicans will stop at nothing to politicize the event. The email "scandal" is anything but, etc. Go back to Fox News where reality is suspended on a daily basis.

It's more than an "email scandal." It's a major Federal felony that she committed. I worked with the handling of classified material for the Dept of State and I know exactly what she did and how wrong it was. Just the information that has been released to the public via the Internet shows that she should already be incarcerated. Anyone else working for DOS would have been arrested over a year ago and would have been convicted by now. This is not some liberal "scandal" that where you claim it to be a Republican conspiracy. This is the real deal and she is guilty. No matter the selection of jury members, she would be found guilty 100% by an immediate verdict.

For a liberal to suggest that this is merely a "scandal" just shows how ignorant many Americans are to how important national security is and how important it is to handle classified information properly.

Hillary conducting gov business via an unsecured and unauthorized email server was against gov regulations. For anyone else, a fireable offense. Her using an unsecured Internet email server to transmit and receive classified information, is a felony. To transmit or received and then destroy Top Secret information is a major felony. And markings on classified material is not pertinent to the violation. To destroy TS information, it must be authorized AND the destruction has to be witnessed and documented. That's law.

Hillary can skate on Benghazi by convincing everyone that she couldn't have done anything about it. Maybe in HER case, she couldn't have helped them. Maybe she really is that incompetent. That is just another reason that she is not a viable candidate for the Dems. She is inept.

As a senator, she passed three bills. Do nothing bills. That is another reason she is not worthy of this important job. She is lazy.

The Clintons are being investigated by IRS, Democrat controlled, for tax fraud. Another reason she is not a viable candidate.

Hillary being a female (?) is not a valid reason or qualification to earn her the Democrat vote. I really thought Democrats prided themselves at being well educated and intelligent.

Guest
04-25-2016, 07:08 AM
As a senator, she passed three bills. Do nothing bills. That is another reason she is not worthy of this important job. She is lazy.


Hillary being a female (?) is not a valid reason or qualification to earn her the Democrat vote. I really thought Democrats prided themselves at being well educated and intelligent.

Is THAT a Senators job? To make more and more laws for us to obey? Many "helpful" laws are "helpful" to the big corporations too. I'd rather they did nothing unless NECESSARY.

Being a woman is good enough for most women. Just like being black is good enough for most blacks. I'm surprised Oprah isn't running, she'd be a shoe-in. Maybe we'll hear from Whoopi next election.

Many liberals are democrats, so there you have it. Liberalism really is a mental disorder. It feels good, it feels "right", but it's completely unsustainable. It only works in small closed groups.

NK is probably a good example. A small country of like minded and racially pure individuals who share everything...supposedly. Everything you see about that country is propaganda. good and bad. From what I gather, they just want to be left alone. They don't want to play with the rest of the world...the "West". They're ostracized because of it. Like the "weird kid" on the grade school playground. They'd have been Iraq. Libya, or Syria (meaning invaded) LONG ago if not for their nukes. I think NK is the last place we need to worry about. Don't believe all the "stories" about them.

Some Democrats are well educated and intelligent. They're the ones leading the ignorant rabble who follow...blindly.

Guest
04-25-2016, 08:57 AM
are these issues that matter in deciding the election. Benghazi was a tragedy, but she is not to blame. Republicans will stop at nothing to politicize the event. The email "scandal" is anything but, etc. Go back to Fox News where reality is suspended on a daily basis.

Classic permissive attitude for the sake of the party.

Guest
04-25-2016, 01:34 PM
are these issues that matter in deciding the election. Benghazi was a tragedy, but she is not to blame. Republicans will stop at nothing to politicize the event. The email "scandal" is anything but, etc. Go back to Fox News where reality is suspended on a daily basis.

Actually there is a very real possibility/probability that she is entirely responsible for Bengazi. It is very likely that ambassador Steven's
itinerary and the security details of the compound were on Hillary's non secure server. The Muslims knew when and where the ambassador
would be a waited in ambush. It is entirely likely that the Benghazi fiasco was Hillary's fault and hers alone.

Guest
04-25-2016, 01:48 PM
Actually there is a very real possibility/probability that she is entirely responsible for Bengazi. It is very likely that ambassador Steven's
itinerary and the security details of the compound were on Hillary's non secure server. The Muslims knew when and where the ambassador
would be a waited in ambush. It is entirely likely that the Benghazi fiasco was Hillary's fault and hers alone.

Yes, and when you add in to the equation that Hillary and Stevens were having an affair and he threatened to end it, she got terrible angry and set the whole thing up to make it look like a terrorist killing.

Guest
04-25-2016, 03:04 PM
Yes, and when you add in to the equation that Hillary and Stevens were having an affair and he threatened to end it, she got terrible angry and set the whole thing up to make it look like a terrorist killing.

Stevens was not blind. How could he have an affair and vomit at the same time? When you consider Bill's poor taste in women, even he wouldn't have anything to do with her. I bet Chelsea is a product of artificial insemination.

Guest
04-25-2016, 03:42 PM
Maybe some in the Republican party could be construed as discerning. And some in the Democrat party will still vote for Hillary after overwhelming proof that she is a criminal, liar and not loyal to her people. What does that make a voter that will pull the lever for Hillary? I am afraid to ask.

You could be right about the Republican party being destroyed, but why don't you answer this question: What happened to the Democratic party? Notice I said Democratic Party. The party of my father. Now, it is known as the Democrat party, the liberal party or the socialist party, but not the Democratic party of old. So, it appears that while you laugh at the demise of the Republican party, your party is defunct and has been for a couple decades. Why don't we all have a big laugh about that?








Where is that overwhelming proof?

Guest
04-25-2016, 04:02 PM
Where is that overwhelming proof?I'd be happy with underwhelming proof.

Guest
04-25-2016, 04:29 PM
Yes, and when you add in to the equation that Hillary and Stevens were having an affair and he threatened to end it, she got terrible angry and set the whole thing up to make it look like a terrorist killing.

Don't be ignorant, ambassador Stevens was gay.

Guest
04-25-2016, 05:50 PM
Where is that overwhelming proof?

How could you miss it? It has saturated the Internet, so if you haven't seen the proof, you are either blind or illiterate. Of course, if you are ignorant of law, I guess it is very easy to think that your momma/killary is innocent when she leaves the red light district at sunrise every morning. Wow, you are probably the ONLY person in the past couple of years that believes she is innocent.

Guest
04-25-2016, 09:35 PM
This is Post #213 ---- wonder what the record is ?

Guest
04-25-2016, 10:29 PM
this is post #213 ---- wonder what the record is ?

214?