View Full Version : Hillary wants No Borders
Guest
02-29-2016, 09:11 AM
Does she mean that she wants to make Mexico part of the US?
Guest
02-29-2016, 09:24 AM
Does she mean that she wants to make Mexico part of the US?
Source for this??
Guest
02-29-2016, 09:27 AM
Just like the other Tea Party fools, he is pulling it out of his a--.
Guest
02-29-2016, 09:28 AM
If means that Slick Willy has run out of young women and needs to add to his collection of conquests. She wants to keep him out of the way, because he hasn't helped her campaign any.
Guest
02-29-2016, 09:30 AM
Source for this??
I have no idea where the poster is referencing this from, but I know that I heard her say that in her speech this week in SC, live on TV. Is that sufficient for you? Don't you even listen to your own candidate? Of course, I can understand why you wouldn't. She hurts my ears also.
Guest
02-29-2016, 09:31 AM
Does she mean that she wants to make Mexico part of the US?
No, she wants to go there and hide out after she's indicted.
Guest
02-29-2016, 09:31 AM
Just like the other Tea Party fools, he is pulling it out of his a--.
Replying to yourself again? :o
Guest
02-29-2016, 09:34 AM
She is preparing a defense for her crimes. She plans to escape to Mexico and use Affluenza as her defense strategy.
Guest
02-29-2016, 09:39 AM
She said it herself in her speech. Listen to her sometime.
Guest
02-29-2016, 10:41 AM
Pandering for votes. The queen of liars will say anything to get zombie vote!
Guest
02-29-2016, 01:34 PM
She said it herself in her speech. Listen to her sometime.
You must have an auditory comprehension disorder. Or maybe need just to understand what words mean. Like Mr Trump I know lots of words.
Here is a word for word transcript of Sec. Clinton's speech after her victory in South Carolina:
Hillary Clinton's South Carolina speech: Transcript (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/27/1492599/-Hillary-Clinton-s-South-Carolina-speech-Transcript)
Now, point out where she said anything about borders. She did talk about barriers.
, we can break down all the barriers holding our families and our country back
Despite what you hear, we don’t need to make America great again: America has never stopped being great. But we do need to make America whole again. Instead of building walls, we need to be tearing down barriers.
we have to break down all the barriers. Not just some. It’s important that Wall Street never threaten Main Street again. No bank can be too big to fail and no executive too powerful to jail
and several more uses of the word barrier, but no single word or phrase ever suggesting open borders to any person who reads, or listens. Not even to you if you are willing to admit it. But slinging false charges are nothing new. So now I challenge you.. Find me the spoken or written example where Sec Clinton ever suggested open borders. I'll wait..................
Guest
02-29-2016, 01:40 PM
Why spend any amount of time considering what she said or did not say?
No matter what she did or did not say she would confirm or deny it depending on the needs of the audience.
She gets those coughing spells because she spins her head around so much showing one face and then the other!
Guest
02-29-2016, 02:28 PM
The saddest reality of all is that no matter who is elected they cannot or will not do what they claim they will do during their campaigning. The hard reality is that they are like gigolos once they roll you for your vote the romance is over. They have no scruples, they have no conscience and their only true talent is that they can lie to you with a straight face.
Personal Best Regards:
Guest
02-29-2016, 02:35 PM
The saddest reality of all is that no matter who is elected they cannot or will not do what they claim they will do during their campaigning. The hard reality is that they are like gigolos once they roll you for your vote the romance is over. They have no scruples, they have no conscience and their only true talent is that they can lie to you with a straight face.
Personal Best Regards:
Well said but also with a couple of additions.
The candidates do promise the moon knowing full well they cannot deliver because their ideas (tuition free college, tearing up the Iran deal, round up 11 million illegals) would not get passed by Congress or are bound to be unconstitutional or some other reason.
Trump, Sanders, Cruz, or Clinton would not be able to get anything at all through Congress.
Guest
02-29-2016, 03:31 PM
Just like the other Tea Party fools, he is pulling it out of his a--.
:beer3:
Guest
02-29-2016, 03:32 PM
The saddest reality of all is that no matter who is elected they cannot or will not do what they claim they will do during their campaigning. The hard reality is that they are like gigolos once they roll you for your vote the romance is over. They have no scruples, they have no conscience and their only true talent is that they can lie to you with a straight face.
Personal Best Regards:
OMG we agree on something!
Guest
02-29-2016, 04:09 PM
Hillary Clinton, joining Democratic rivals, denounces immigration raids - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-joining-democratic-rivals-denounces-immigration-raids/)
Try to actually research positions taken by serious candidates and not those that just seem to talk out of their butts.
Guest
02-29-2016, 08:00 PM
Does she mean that she wants to make Mexico part of the US?
Wait !!!!! Don't tell us - another Faux News scoop
Guest
02-29-2016, 10:49 PM
Liberals are coming out of hiding and taking on the Tea Party Republicans on this forum. Goodbye Tea Party - and good riddance!
Guest
02-29-2016, 11:01 PM
Liberals are coming out of hiding and taking on the Tea Party Republicans on this forum. Goodbye Tea Party - and good riddance!
the Tea Party is alive and well but like me, most don't feel it is constructive to engage in the nonsense that we read here.
Guest
03-01-2016, 05:28 AM
You must have an auditory comprehension disorder. Or maybe need just to understand what words mean. Like Mr Trump I know lots of words.
Here is a word for word transcript of Sec. Clinton's speech after her victory in South Carolina:
Hillary Clinton's South Carolina speech: Transcript (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/27/1492599/-Hillary-Clinton-s-South-Carolina-speech-Transcript)
Now, point out where she said anything about borders. She did talk about barriers.
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and several more uses of the word barrier, but no single word or phrase ever suggesting open borders to any person who reads, or listens. Not even to you if you are willing to admit it. But slinging false charges are nothing new. So now I challenge you.. Find me the spoken or written example where Sec Clinton ever suggested open borders. I'll wait..................
You didn't ask me, but she prefaced her statements about "barriers" by saying "we don't need to build any walls...." You neglected to mention that as meaning "NO WALLS." But, you go ahead and play with words, while the rest of America hears it exactly as she meant it to be heard.
Guest
03-01-2016, 05:29 AM
Hillary: "......instead of building walls..........."
Guest
03-01-2016, 05:35 AM
Well said but also with a couple of additions.
The candidates do promise the moon knowing full well they cannot deliver because their ideas (tuition free college, tearing up the Iran deal, round up 11 million illegals) would not get passed by Congress or are bound to be unconstitutional or some other reason.
Trump, Sanders, Cruz, or Clinton would not be able to get anything at all through Congress.
Dear Guest: This issue of working with Congress in itself is a worthy topic.
Much has been written about the founders and the varying degree of difference they had as to the making of this Republic. Stand outs such as George Washington made the difference. Abraham Lincoln had is share of controversy yet the nation endured. Always in the end citizens understood what was at stake and that divided we fall and so they managed compromise. But the thing about compromise is it has to go both ways.
In my view the progressives play the game of "we don't have the problem you got the problem" with GOP. However if a voter/citizen is objective s/he will realize that the progressives have moved to a position of "our way ONLY or the highway" compliments of Obama, Reed, Pelosi, DOJ, IRS, EPA, etc etc etc. This nation continues to suffer their conceit with one of the worse and longest recoveries in history, with ObamaCare, with so much regulations that businesses just sit on cash or because of taxes leave the country. A black president is responsible for the division seen with the races
And a weak Congress has not helped by allowing Obama to ride rough shod over them
Where are the Washington's Lincoln's Reagan's Truman's ?
Guest
03-01-2016, 07:04 AM
Hillary wants no borders AND no laws.
The latest release of her emails, puts her in a real jam. Obama is not too happy either, considering that he is also implicated. Well, she did threaten that if she goes down, she will take others with her. Fine with me. Anyone, including republicans that feel that national security is not an issue, should go to jail if they violate the laws regarding handling of classified information. Lives are at stake by their poor judgement and carelessness.
Guest
03-01-2016, 08:24 AM
Dear Guest: This issue of working with Congress in itself is a worthy topic.
Much has been written about the founders and the varying degree of difference they had as to the making of this Republic. Stand outs such as George Washington made the difference. Abraham Lincoln had is share of controversy yet the nation endured. Always in the end citizens understood what was at stake and that divided we fall and so they managed compromise. But the thing about compromise is it has to go both ways.
In my view the progressives play the game of "we don't have the problem you got the problem" with GOP. However if a voter/citizen is objective s/he will realize that the progressives have moved to a position of "our way ONLY or the highway" compliments of Obama, Reed, Pelosi, DOJ, IRS, EPA, etc etc etc. This nation continues to suffer their conceit with one of the worse and longest recoveries in history, with ObamaCare, with so much regulations that businesses just sit on cash or because of taxes leave the country. A black president is responsible for the division seen with the races
And a weak Congress has not helped by allowing Obama to ride rough shod over them
Where are the Washington's Lincoln's Reagan's Truman's ?
No, I do not agree with the content of your second paragraph. True, the Democrats are just as responsible in creating a blockage of legislation as Republicans. We do need business regulations, we do need the IRS, we do need universal healthcare, and it is not our President who has created a racial divide.
Thank you for your thoughts.
Guest
03-01-2016, 08:59 AM
No, I do not agree with the content of your second paragraph. True, the Democrats are just as responsible in creating a blockage of legislation as Republicans. We do need business regulations, we do need the IRS, we do need universal healthcare, and it is not our President who has created a racial divide.
Thank you for your thoughts.
You are blind as well as ignorant.
Guest
03-01-2016, 09:34 AM
No, I do not agree with the content of your second paragraph. True, the Democrats are just as responsible in creating a blockage of legislation as Republicans. We do need business regulations, we do need the IRS, we do need universal healthcare, and it is not our President who has created a racial divide.
Thank you for your thoughts.
Dear Guest: The topic is Hillary Clinton does not want any border so I'll address that first. Hillary clinton has no borders that's why she can ignore the damage is creating as Secretary of State. It is why she can skate on the allegations against her as to her foundation and the use of a personal e mail server. and she can get away with all of it because progressives have no borders were fellow progressives are concerned. Nixon's actions were paltry compared to Obama and Hillary Rangel and Reed Pelosi Dodd and Frank
As to your not agreeing with my second paragraph do I really need to go into the detail of how harry Reed, the weasel he is blocked anything he did not agree with from even getting on the Senate agenda.
Do I have to remind you that the IRS was criminal in their targeting conservative groups. You do not see their actions as frightening and totalitarian? OBamacare has been a total disaster and not one progressive read it before they without one single Republican on board passed it in the middle of the night . That irresponsible act is a concern of yours?
Dodd-Frank totally missed its target and is sending many business running for this nation We don't need universal health care because it will only bankrupt this nation. We need to return to the model we left and then provide an avenue for those having a problem getting health care.
You my friend are either beig less than honest with yourself and me or have joined those collectives that swallow the kool aide hook line and sinker
The progressive agenda is wrecking government, educational institutions and religious institutions.
Personal Best Regards:
Guest
03-01-2016, 06:53 PM
Dear Guest: The topic is Hillary Clinton does not want any border so I'll address that first. Hillary clinton has no borders that's why she can ignore the damage is creating as Secretary of State. It is why she can skate on the allegations against her as to her foundation and the use of a personal e mail server. and she can get away with all of it because progressives have no borders were fellow progressives are concerned. Nixon's actions were paltry compared to Obama and Hillary Rangel and Reed Pelosi Dodd and Frank
As to your not agreeing with my second paragraph do I really need to go into the detail of how harry Reed, the weasel he is blocked anything he did not agree with from even getting on the Senate agenda.
Do I have to remind you that the IRS was criminal in their targeting conservative groups. You do not see their actions as frightening and totalitarian? OBamacare has been a total disaster and not one progressive read it before they without one single Republican on board passed it in the middle of the night . That irresponsible act is a concern of yours?
Dodd-Frank totally missed its target and is sending many business running for this nation We don't need universal health care because it will only bankrupt this nation. We need to return to the model we left and then provide an avenue for those having a problem getting health care.
You my friend are either beig less than honest with yourself and me or have joined those collectives that swallow the kool aide hook line and sinker
The progressive agenda is wrecking government, educational institutions and religious institutions.
Personal Best Regards:
When Harry Reid blocks items, it is a problem. When Mitch McConnell filibusters just about everything that is perfectly acceptable.
Political organizations for both parties are using the 501(4)c charitable organization laws to get around hiding their contributors, and getting a charitable deduction to boot. The IRS regulation states that these organizations shall preform no political functions at all. The law should be enforced as written.
Saying that no progressive read the Affordable Care act is nonsense. The law was discussed for over a year. What the hell were they talking about the color of the sky? All the main points in the law were well known. Given the fact that lawyers have to take 1 000 words to describe something that can be done in 10, because other lawyers are looking for loopholes in everything, they didn't read the final version word for word, but they knew what was in the law. Hell, something in the wording was missed, and the Supreme Court had to rule on it. Lawyers being lawyers.
People don't have a problem getting insurance. They have a problem be able to afford insurance. Letting insurance companies cross state lines isn't going to help. It may help reduce health insurance for companies. However, individuals, whose companies don't provide health insurance, will be out there on their own, and billed at community rates. Community rates are the highest ones going.
Single payer doesn't have to mean that the government is paying the entire bill for health insurance. You can have a current insurance company manage the plan, and set the rate for individuals and families. However, the insurance company markup will be set by the government. Single payer will never happen.
Dodd/Frank regulations pertained to banks, and mortgage companies. Companies were leaving the US long before Dodd/Frank to avoid paying federal income taxes, and for lower wages overseas. The blame game holds no bounds with Republicans. Republicans and honesty now that is a novel concept. The word most used in the Republicans debates, is liar, liar, liar. They are describing each other. So, at least, they know where the problem lies.
You talked about the Democrats voting for the ACA not knowing what is in it. No problem man! Trump is the odds on favorite to be the Republican nominee for president. How can anyone with a brain in their head know what the hell he will do as president? Has he gone into detail in anything that he will do? The only thing that he excels at is making personal fun of everyone that doesn't agree with him. Of that, he has no equal. Since when, is being a total a$$ the major requirement to be president? I know you are not for him, but too many people are.
"The progressive agenda is wrecking government, educational institutions and religious institutions" Making government work for the average man is wreaking government. I guess government is there for people, who can afford to buy it. Making educational institutions work for everyone is a real problem especially making higher education affordable. Making religious institutions accept people that don't agree with them is a problem. What do we want to parrot Iran? If you don't agree with us, you die.
Guest
03-01-2016, 07:46 PM
When Harry Reid blocks items, it is a problem. When Mitch McConnell filibusters just about everything that is perfectly acceptable.
Political organizations for both parties are using the 501(4)c charitable organization laws to get around hiding their contributors, and getting a charitable deduction to boot. The IRS regulation states that these organizations shall preform no political functions at all. The law should be enforced as written.
Saying that no progressive read the Affordable Care act is nonsense. The law was discussed for over a year. What the hell were they talking about the color of the sky? All the main points in the law were well known. Given the fact that lawyers have to take 1 000 words to describe something that can be done in 10, because other lawyers are looking for loopholes in everything, they didn't read the final version word for word, but they knew what was in the law. Hell, something in the wording was missed, and the Supreme Court had to rule on it. Lawyers being lawyers.
People don't have a problem getting insurance. They have a problem be able to afford insurance. Letting insurance companies cross state lines isn't going to help. It may help reduce health insurance for companies. However, individuals, whose companies don't provide health insurance, will be out there on their own, and billed at community rates. Community rates are the highest ones going.
Single payer doesn't have to mean that the government is paying the entire bill for health insurance. You can have a current insurance company manage the plan, and set the rate for individuals and families. However, the insurance company markup will be set by the government. Single payer will never happen.
Dodd/Frank regulations pertained to banks, and mortgage companies. Companies were leaving the US long before Dodd/Frank to avoid paying federal income taxes, and for lower wages overseas. The blame game holds no bounds with Republicans. Republicans and honesty now that is a novel concept. The word most used in the Republicans debates, is liar, liar, liar. They are describing each other. So, at least, they know where the problem lies.
You talked about the Democrats voting for the ACA not knowing what is in it. No problem man! Trump is the odds on favorite to be the Republican nominee for president. How can anyone with a brain in their head know what the hell he will do as president? Has he gone into detail in anything that he will do? The only thing that he excels at is making personal fun of everyone that doesn't agree with him. Of that, he has no equal. Since when, is being a total a$$ the major requirement to be president? I know you are not for him, but too many people are.
"The progressive agenda is wrecking government, educational institutions and religious institutions" Making government work for the average man is wreaking government. I guess government is there for people, who can afford to buy it. Making educational institutions work for everyone is a real problem especially making higher education affordable. Making religious institutions accept people that don't agree with them is a problem. What do we want to parrot Iran? If you don't agree with us, you die.
YOU Can't be Serious! Harry blocked EVERY house bill passed by both parties send to him. Every ONE. Comparing couple filibuster's to that is ludicrous!
From the head lib queen herself "we have to PASS it to see what's in it. That was about the dumbest statement ever made! None by even the closest wacko space cadet even comes close to that!
Frank and DODD was cause of the housing meltdown. This got pass when democrats was in total control of both house and senate. Had enough NE rhinos to pass it.
The public education system is money cesspool, probably the worst mismanaged public ran program which it got worse when Feds got involved. When superintendents make 300 to 400k year you know where all the money going? Union Lobbists have paid off politicians for the unfunded 100% teachers union retirement. With more days off I doubt they work 7 months out of year. Seems there some type of break every few weeks? Guess what NO progress is standards. Teachers are the only ones I know that get pension for as little as 5 years teaching 5 years! (Google teacher retirement and see what comes up)
Last the IRS! Biggest waste of tax dollars. Regulations by the thousands of pages so the rich don't have to pay taxes and the middle class pays 39% cause we don't have CPAs and lawyers using loop holes to pay less taxes than they're secretaries.
Guest
03-01-2016, 07:54 PM
Source for this??
Republicans don't need no stinking sources. I'm sure someone in Fox News said something like it.
Guest
03-01-2016, 08:41 PM
The public education system is money cesspool, probably the worst mismanaged public ran program which it got worse when Feds got involved. When superintendents make 300 to 400k year you know where all the money going? Union Lobbists have paid off politicians for the unfunded 100% teachers union retirement. With more days off I doubt they work 7 months out of year. Seems there some type of break every few weeks? Guess what NO progress is standards. Teachers are the only ones I know that get pension for as little as 5 years teaching 5 years! (Google teacher retirement and see what comes up)
Last the IRS! Biggest waste of tax dollars. Regulations by the thousands of pages so the rich don't have to pay taxes and the middle class pays 39% cause we don't have CPAs and lawyers using loop holes to pay less taxes than they're secretaries.
Without the IRS, who is going to collect the Federal Income tax?
Do you think that each individual school district in the USA is capable of creating their own ciriculum? You would have the schools in Iowa, Minnesora, and Wisconsin having great systems while the dumb rednecks of Mississippi, Alabama, and Kentucky having graduated kids who have a tough time spelling their own name.
The Common Core is absolutely the best way to ensure all school districts learn.
Guest
03-02-2016, 05:05 AM
Without the IRS, who is going to collect the Federal Income tax?
Do you think that each individual school district in the USA is capable of creating their own ciriculum? You would have the schools in Iowa, Minnesora, and Wisconsin having great systems while the dumb rednecks of Mississippi, Alabama, and Kentucky having graduated kids who have a tough time spelling their own name.
The Common Core is absolutely the best way to ensure all school districts learn.
I doubt there are that many that feel as you do. Dependent on the gov nanny to make decisions for you. I am sorry that your parents did not teach you self reliance and self discipline. And it is obvious that you did not receive adequate schooling. The spelling is "curriculum" and "Minnesota"
Guest
03-02-2016, 05:16 AM
Hillary said it again last night. No borders. Opportunity for all.
You just can't make this stuff up. She should be saying "NO BARS" and "NO incarceration for committing crimes." Because more emails released reveal that she transmitted more classified, and some of it to Obama. No wonder she said that if she went down, she would take him down with her. Who else could get away with threatening the president?
Guest
03-02-2016, 09:08 AM
Republicans don't need no stinking sources. I'm sure someone in Fox News said something like it.
I hate to burst your bubbling! I'm NOT republician
Guest
03-02-2016, 10:22 AM
I hate to burst your bubbling! I'm NOT republician
I am a Democrat too and I refuse to vote for Hillary. She is an embarrassment to the office of US President. I still hope Biden runs.
Guest
03-02-2016, 11:22 AM
I am an Independent and if the ONLY choices given to me are either Clinton or Trump, I will hold my nose and vote for Trump. I will never support another Clinton.
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