Attempted Armed Robbery in Spanish Springs

[PJOHNS2654]

I have received this information from the President of my HOA.

On Wed. 3/09/2016 two women were accosted at gun point between the Postal Station and the wall to the Villas Of Spanish Springs. The gunman demanded Money and both women began screaming. The gunman ran off and escaped in a waiting vehicle. The gunman was m/w late 20's. Police were called and a report was taken.

I have yet to see any report of this in the online news site or in the Daily Sun.

[Bogie Shooter]

Oh my, could it possibly not be true?

[Chatbrat]

another reason to carry

[graciegirl]

I have received this information from the President of my HOA.

On Wed. 3/09/2016 two women were accosted at gun point between the Postal Station and the wall to the Villas Of Spanish Springs. The gunman demanded Money and both women began screaming. The gunman ran off and escaped in a waiting vehicle. The gunman was m/w late 20's. Police were called and a report was taken.

I have yet to see any report of this in the online news site or in the Daily Sun.






We were skeptical, but you were right. The online news is running the article right now.

The online news is pretty good at publishing news from law enforcement.

[Rango]

another reason to carry

If you can scream and chase away a robber, you don't need a gun. :D

[Chatbrat]

If the robber wants to kill you to eliminate any witness-you are SOL-no reasoning with an out of control druggie

Be prepared its what they taught you in the scouts.

[Sandtrap328]

another reason to carry

...and possibly you would have a wounded would be robber and dead victims OR a robber with more than one handgun. Several scenarios could have happened. Best would be the capture of the robber.

In a scenario where the women screamed, the robber turned and ran, and the armed victim shot the fleeing bad guy in the back - just curious if charges of manslaughter would stick? Any legal experts weigh in?

[Taltarzac725]

...and possibly you would have a wounded would be robber and dead victims OR a robber with more than one handgun. Several scenarios could have happened. Best would be the capture of the robber.

In a scenario where the women screamed, the robber turned and ran, and the armed victim shot the fleeing bad guy in the back - just curious if charges of manslaughter would stick? Any legal experts weigh in?

Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0776/0776.html)

Just giving you a link. You should draw your own conclusions.

776.05 Law enforcement officers; use of force in making an arrest.—A law enforcement officer, or any person whom the officer has summoned or directed to assist him or her, need not retreat or desist from efforts to make a lawful arrest because of resistance or threatened resistance to the arrest. The officer is justified in the use of any force:
(1) Which he or she reasonably believes to be necessary to defend himself or herself or another from bodily harm while making the arrest;
(2) When necessarily committed in retaking felons who have escaped; or
(3) When necessarily committed in arresting felons fleeing from justice. However, this subsection shall not constitute a defense in any civil action for damages brought for the wrongful use of deadly force unless the use of deadly force was necessary to prevent the arrest from being defeated by such flight and, when feasible, some warning had been given, and:
(a) The officer reasonably believes that the fleeing felon poses a threat of death or serious physical harm to the officer or others; or
(b) The officer reasonably believes that the fleeing felon has committed a crime involving the infliction or threatened infliction of serious physical harm to another person.
History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 1, ch. 75-64; s. 1, ch. 87-147; s. 54, ch. 88-381; s. 1191, ch. 97-102.

You may want to look at some of the other statutes around this one.

[Taltarzac725]

...and possibly you would have a wounded would be robber and dead victims OR a robber with more than one handgun. Several scenarios could have happened. Best would be the capture of the robber.

In a scenario where the women screamed, the robber turned and ran, and the armed victim shot the fleeing bad guy in the back - just curious if charges of manslaughter would stick? Any legal experts weigh in?

This might be a better discussion then looking at the law. Legal Restrictions on Self-Defense (http://www.stevemunden.com/selfdefense.html)

[Gunnif]

It's easier to say your sorry than be DEAD.
These robers have no problem eliminating the victim?

[Sandtrap328]

It's easier to say your sorry than be DEAD.
These robers have no problem eliminating the victim?

That is true BUT the "I'm sorry" just might be 10 years in prison. Once the robber has your wallet and is running away, it is not alright to put a shot into his back.

There is also the shooting in a very stressful situation to be considered. The well trained lawman knows about that. In a stressful shooting situation, most bullets from average citizens would go in very haphazard pattern and have a good possibility of taking out bystanders.

Any other legal experts?

[Retiring]

Deadly force to protect your life or the life of another. You don’t take a life to protect “stuff.” If the scumbag takes your wallet, car, tv, poodle or the steak in your freezer, wave goodbye as he runs off and call 911. Don’t put stuff over a human life, even if it’s a scumbag.

If you want to play the technically legal game, I hope you have a $1 mill to defend yourself and a few years to spare as it runs through the legal system. Then you better hope you win or you will not be spending your final years in The Villages.

[Chatbrat]

To everyone who does not carry shut up, we know the rules, we have insurance to cover us , I was taught how to shoot by a retired secret service agent

If it hits the fan , you had better hope some well trained person is nearby or you are SOL

[Sandtrap328]

To everyone who does not carry shut up, we know the rules, we have insurance to cover us , I was taught how to shoot by a retired secret service agent

If it hits the fan , you had better hope some well trained person is nearby or you are SOL

You mean that YOU know the rules, YOU have insurance, and YOU were taught to shoot by a retired secret service agent. I have no problem with that.

Not every gun carrier is as careful as you.

Also, do NOT tell me to shut up! I can exercise my First Amendment rights just as you can exercise your 2nd Amendment rights! Got it? Nowhere did I say that carrying a gun should be outlawed. Just do it all legally.

[Nucky]

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[outlaw]

I think most law enforcement would be OK with shooting an armed robber in the back.

[fred53]

If you can scream and chase away a robber, you don't need a gun. :D

"IF"...and if they don't run away? :D

[fred53]

You mean that YOU know the rules, YOU have insurance, and YOU were taught to shoot by a retired secret service agent. I have no problem with that.

Not every gun carrier is as careful as you.

Also, do NOT tell me to shut up! I can exercise my First Amendment rights just as you can exercise your 2nd Amendment rights! Got it? Nowhere did I say that carrying a gun should be outlawed. Just do it all legally.

unfortunately if "you" can exercise your 1st amendment rights they also have their 1st amendment rights and can legally tell you to "shut up". Or do those rights only apply to you?