Pulled over 20 minutes ago on Churchill Downs going into Belvedere area.

[Taltarzac725]

The polite policeman asked me how I-- George-- was doing tonight. My Dad is George and his license was revoked because he is legally blind in one eye. And his sight is limited a little in the other.


I told him I was Jon and gave him my driver's license. Birthday 2-24-1959.

He checked it and then gave my drivers' license back to me after his walk to and from the car.

Anyway. I am glad that they are doing this even though I was trying to figure out what I had done wrong to see the lights flashing. I am usually a slower driver than most.

Job well done anyway to the Sumter County Sheriff's Office or whatever LEO the officer tonight originated. I would not want my Dad George out there driving either.

[dbussone]

The polite policeman asked me how I-- George-- was doing tonight. My Dad is George and his license was revoked because he is legally blind in one eye. And his sight is limited a little in the other.


I told him I was Jon and gave him my driver's license. Birthday 2-24-1959.

He checked it and then gave my drivers' license back to me after his walk to and from the car.

Anyway. I am glad that they are doing this even though I was trying to figure out what I had done wrong to see the lights flashing. I am usually a slower driver than most.

Job well done anyway to the Sumter County Sheriff's Office or whatever LEO the officer tonight originated. I would not want my Dad George out there driving either.


Way to go Tal! A polite conversation between an upright citizen and an outstanding LEO doing his/her job. Too bad everyone can't deal with LEOs in as civil a manner.

Were you driving a car registered to your Dad?

[Nucky]

Good job Tal. It's been a while since I got pulled over and I am one of the people who leaves a little early instead of rushing like a fool. The job that the police do has to be rough. When I see them pulling someone over in a dangerous spot I always wish for their safety. We know you may have been rushing home so the Lobster didn't spoil. Very nice how you respected the officer....a great example.:BigApplause:

[Taltarzac725]

Way to go Tal! A polite conversation between an upright citizen and an outstanding LEO doing his/her job. Too bad everyone can't deal with LEOs in as civil a manner.

Were you driving a car registered to your Dad?

Yes. I was driving a car registered to George. This is the second time this has happened but my mother was driving the first and my Dad was the passenger. They were in a parking lot at that time.

I was coming home from getting Subway because someone must have left the phone off the hook at Beef O'Brady's as I could not get through to order and did not want to wait around at the bar at Beefs for an in person order. No lobster involved.

[graciegirl]

Bless your dear heart, JON. You did good and made us proud. That is what I taught my kids. You have warmed my heart tonight. You are such a good fellow.

[Topspinmo]

not all on the ball, sheriff cars traveling south. Was traveling north on BV just pass saddlebrook. White caddie pass me going at least 55 MPH. Leo Went on by and caddie kept speeding up BV. I doubt he could of caught him anyway? No, he was in no hurry going down BV. How I know the caddie was going at least 50? I was doing 38 and the caddie flew by me. I hit my brakes to slow down hoping his radar (if he had it on?) didn't track me instead of the caddie.

During my travels mostly in the day I see little law enforcement enforcing traffic laws.

[Walter123]

It's always good to see a cop doing his job.

[Taltarzac725]

Bless your dear heart, JON. You did good and made us proud. That is what I taught my kids. You have warmed my heart tonight. You are such a good fellow.

Thanks, Graciegirl.

[dirtbanker]

Yes. I was driving a car registered to George. This is the second time this has happened but my mother was driving the first and my Dad was the passenger. They were in a parking lot at that time.

I was coming home from getting Subway because someone must have left the phone off the hook at Beef O'Brady's as I could not get through to order and did not want to wait around at the bar at Beefs for an in person order. No lobster involved.

Probably would not have happened if you were driving your own car...

[Sandtrap328]

I really am curious as to WHY the policeman pulled the car over. The police cannot be running every plate to see if the owner has a valid license. Did the officer just know that car belonged to someone with a suspended license and assume he was the driver?

[dirtbanker]

Most police departments today use ALPR technology (automatic license plate recognition) in the squads. It is a system that utilizes cameras and computers in the squad.

They can also use that equipment to capture pics of driver as they pass oncoming traffic. The cameras also have infrared capability (to work in the dark). Much easier to catch and convict drinking while driving and seatbelt violations.

[villagetinker]

Yes. I was driving a car registered to George. This is the second time this has happened but my mother was driving the first and my Dad was the passenger. They were in a parking lot at that time.

I was coming home from getting Subway because someone must have left the phone off the hook at Beef O'Brady's as I could not get through to order and did not want to wait around at the bar at Beefs for an in person order. No lobster involved.

Taltarzac, you may want to research driving a car belonging to someone else. I am guessing that your father does not have insurance, since he does not have a license. This might lead to some problems if you were involved in an accident, while driving his car. I am not an expert by an means in this area, it just seems you might be asking for trouble, just my humble opinion.

[Taltarzac725]

Taltarzac, you may want to research driving a car belonging to someone else. I am guessing that your father does not have insurance, since he does not have a license. This might lead to some problems if you were involved in an accident, while driving his car. I am not an expert by an means in this area, it just seems you might be asking for trouble, just my humble opinion.

He has insurance for me. He did also for my late younger brother who got charges for a DUI and leaving a scene of an accident here in the Villages on CR466 and Morse in the same car I was driving last night. The insurance went way up after that as the insurance company claimed that my younger brother still had access to the car even though my Dad took away the keys and would not allow him to drive. My younger brother Chuck passed on December 4, 2014 so that is no longer an issue.

My 224 613 Project has had consequences on my lifestyle and other everyday things. The Sumter County Sheriff's Office probably knows about this Project as well as I wrote them back in 2005 and received a nice response from the Sumter County Sheriff Bill Farmer. It was in response to a letter I sent them about my car -- a few vehicles back- breaking down and the officer who stopped behind my car and waited for AAA to come a give me a tow.

I do not see why an officer just doing patrol would know about my 224 613 Project unless he reads Talk of the Villages or is in my Facebook universe or somehow is connected to my massive amount of e-mails sent out from 1999 through 2005 or so. I still send out e-mails but nothing like what I send out when we were in Palm Harbor, Florida. I also have a lot of friends involved in this Project in some way or another. Google Taltarzac725 if you do not know what I am talking about with this Project which involves contacts I made while earning four degrees in 5 states from 1976 through 1989.

[RickeyD]

He has insurance for me. He did also for my late younger brother who got charges for a DUI and leaving a scene of an accident here in the Villages on CR466 and Morse in the same car I was driving last night. The insurance went way up after that as the insurance company claimed that my younger brother still had access to the car even though my Dad took away the keys and would not allow him to drive. My younger brother Chuck passed on December 4, 2014 so that is no longer an issue.

My 224 613 Project has had consequences on my lifestyle and other everyday things. The Sumter County Sheriff's Office probably knows about this Project as well as I wrote them back in 2005 and received a nice response from the Sumter County Sheriff Bill Farmer. It was in response to a letter I sent them about my car -- a few vehicles back- breaking down and the officer who stopped behind my car and waited for AAA to come a give me a tow.

I do not see why an officer just doing patrol would know about my 224 613 Project unless he reads Talk of the Villages or is in my Facebook universe or somehow is connected to my massive amount of e-mails sent out from 1999 through 2005 or so. I still send out e-mails but nothing like what I send out when we were in Palm Harbor, Florida. I also have a lot of friends involved in this Project in some way or another. Google Taltarzac725 if you do not know what I am talking about with this Project which involves contacts I made while earning four degrees in 5 states from 1976 through 1989.

You're a nice guy Tal :mademyday:

[dewilson58]

I really am curious as to WHY the policeman pulled the car over. The police cannot be running every plate to see if the owner has a valid license. Did the officer just know that car belonged to someone with a suspended license and assume he was the driver?

Profiling.

[Taltarzac725]

Profiling.

I was driving slowly and he did seem to think I was George when he approached the vehicle. George is 85 of thereabouts. He has not driven for three plus years.

[dirtbanker]

That sounds a little backwards to me, shouldn't the 57 year old guy have insurance for himself? My brother in law "Captain Crack" is a loser sponge at age 54, has not had a job in 30 some years (has had no income either!). My mother in law cooks, cleans, and provides that worthless lair with a roof and vehicle (you should hear his ideas on mass transit improvements). Has 2 kids (with different women) that he never contributed a dime towards. A real POS in society...Sort of makes me skeptical of grown men living with their parents.

[Nucky]

That sounds a little backwards to me, shouldn't the 57 year old guy have insurance for himself? My brother in law "Captain Crack" is a loser sponge at age 54, has not had a job in 30 some years (has had no income either!). My mother in law cooks, cleans, and provides that worthless lair with a roof and vehicle (you should hear his ideas on mass transit improvements). Has 2 kids (with different women) that he never contributed a dime towards. A real POS in society...Sort of makes me skeptical of grown men living with their parents.

Are you serious? Pass all the judgement you want on your family in writing on this forum but if you are making an underhanded declaration about anyone else I don't think that's to good. Who are you to say what is backwards about who holds insurance on a car? At least there is insurance. Maybe your time would be better spent buying your brother in law some form of birth control, take him on a job interview and teaching him how to cook & clean. I would never just offer this help but it did seem that you were struggling on how to help for the last 30 years. Time to help straighten out your own side of the fence, it seems like the plate is full.

[Walter123]

That sounds a little backwards to me, shouldn't the 57 year old guy have insurance for himself? My brother in law "Captain Crack" is a loser sponge at age 54, has not had a job in 30 some years (has had no income either!). My mother in law cooks, cleans, and provides that worthless lair with a roof and vehicle (you should hear his ideas on mass transit improvements). Has 2 kids (with different women) that he never contributed a dime towards. A real POS in society...Sort of makes me skeptical of grown men living with their parents.

It's not your BIL it's your MIL that seems to have a problem by enabling your BIL. I'm pretty sure Tal has his own car and insurance. When Tal said his father has insurance for him he probably meant that he is covered to drive his Father's car to run errands for him or take him to appointments and the such.

[Taltarzac725]

That sounds a little backwards to me, shouldn't the 57 year old guy have insurance for himself? My brother in law "Captain Crack" is a loser sponge at age 54, has not had a job in 30 some years (has had no income either!). My mother in law cooks, cleans, and provides that worthless lair with a roof and vehicle (you should hear his ideas on mass transit improvements). Has 2 kids (with different women) that he never contributed a dime towards. A real POS in society...Sort of makes me skeptical of grown men living with their parents.

ok.

[Marathon Man]

So, anyway... That was very nice of that policeman.

[RickeyD]

That sounds a little backwards to me, shouldn't the 57 year old guy have insurance for himself? My brother in law "Captain Crack" is a loser sponge at age 54, has not had a job in 30 some years (has had no income either!). My mother in law cooks, cleans, and provides that worthless lair with a roof and vehicle (you should hear his ideas on mass transit improvements). Has 2 kids (with different women) that he never contributed a dime towards. A real POS in society...Sort of makes me skeptical of grown men living with their parents.

The OP is an attorney. Ever think the OP's father is living with HIM...

[Carl in Tampa]

Most police departments today use ALPR technology (automatic license plate recognition) in the squads. It is a system that utilizes cameras and computers in the squad.

They can also use that equipment to capture pics of driver as they pass oncoming traffic. The cameras also have infrared capability (to work in the dark). Much easier to catch and convict drinking while driving and seatbelt violations.

The license plate reader returns not only the registration of the license plate but also whether it is expired. The computer can also be queried about the status of the registered owner's driver's license. Failure to maintain auto insurance can result in suspension of your driver's license.

In some states, but not in Florida, it will also report if the owner holds a concealed weapons license.

:police:

[dbussone]

The OP is an attorney. Ever think the OP's father is living with HIM...


Right on. Or the OP was running an errand for his father, or taking his father for a doctor's appointment, or just taking the car out to keep it running, or or or.

Ricky. You get an @attaboy."

[Carl in Tampa]

not all on the ball, sheriff cars traveling south. Was traveling north on BV just pass saddlebrook. White caddie pass me going at least 55 MPH. Leo Went on by and caddie kept speeding up BV. I doubt he could of caught him anyway? No, he was in no hurry going down BV. How I know the caddie was going at least 50? I was doing 38 and the caddie flew by me. I hit my brakes to slow down hoping his radar (if he had it on?) didn't track me instead of the caddie.

During my travels mostly in the day I see little law enforcement enforcing traffic laws.

The Sheriff's car was traveling south on a 4 lane street divided by a median and the Caddie was going north? Assuming that the deputy was alerted to the speeder, by the time he could make a U turn and begin a pursuit of the speeder, it is likely that he would have to go 80 mph or more to overtake him. All for a possible ticket for a minor traffic violation? The risk to the public is greater than the benefit of giving someone a ticket in this situation.

At the beginning of Snowbird season you will see lots of traffic enforcement on Buena Vista by teams of deputies, one standing on the roadside with a radar gun and another either on foot a few yards farther down the road or in a chase vehicle. This gets the attention of the Snowbirds and one hopes it keeps them driving more carefully for the balance of their visit.

[Barefoot]

At the beginning of Snowbird season you will see lots of traffic enforcement on Buena Vista by teams of deputies, one standing on the roadside with a radar gun and another either on foot a few yards farther down the road or in a chase vehicle.
I've often seen teams of deputies with radar and a chase vehicle. Good for them. :thumbup:

[rjm1cc]

I really am curious as to WHY the policeman pulled the car over. The police cannot be running every plate to see if the owner has a valid license. Did the officer just know that car belonged to someone with a suspended license and assume he was the driver?

They could be running the plates. They have a system that takes pictures of the plates and runs them as they drive buy. Don't know if FL uses it.

When we moved to Fl my wife and I changed our drivers license to FL we left a car up North that we used when we were there. Our daughter was driving the car and was pulled over because the office though she did not have a valid license. Seems the state has no place in their system to show that the car was owed by a licensed driver in a different state. The car was registered in the northern state and also insured in that state. There was no problem with the officer after he check the registration and saw that my wife (no drivers license in that state) was not the driver.

[dirtbanker]

Are you serious? Pass all the judgement you want on your family in writing on this forum but if you are making an underhanded declaration about anyone else I don't think that's to good. Who are you to say what is backwards about who holds insurance on a car? At least there is insurance. Maybe your time would be better spent buying your brother in law some form of birth control, take him on a job interview and teaching him how to cook & clean. I would never just offer this help but it did seem that you were struggling on how to help for the last 30 years. Time to help straighten out your own side of the fence, it seems like the plate is full.

Ironic post, infers you might have some problems on your side of the fence. It also seems you are passing judgement on me...
Who are you to suggest I can't say what appears to be backwards to me?
Maybe if I paid for birth control, gave him a job, taught him how to be motivated enough to cook and clean for himself, oh and help others! Maybe just then he would not be such a POS!! It certainly was not a lack of help that made "Captain Crack" what he is...or is not.

[dirtbanker]

It's not your BIL it's your MIL that seems to have a problem by enabling your BIL. I'm pretty sure Tal has his own car and insurance. When Tal said his father has insurance for him he probably meant that he is covered to drive his Father's car to run errands for him or take him to appointments and the such.

I agree the mother in law has been co-dependent and is guilty of enabling, but the guy has no pride or shame and IMHO: that falls squarely on him.

Have no idea what Tal meant, still trying to figure out how the father who does not have a valid DL (revoked) can purchase an auto insurance policy...

[Nucky]

Ironic post, infers you might have some problems on your side of the fence. It also seems you are passing judgement on me...
Who are you to suggest I can't say what appears to be backwards to me?
Maybe if I paid for birth control, gave him a job, taught him how to be motivated enough to cook and clean for himself, oh and help others! Maybe just then he would not be such a POS!! It certainly was not a lack of help that made "Captain Crack" what he is...or is not.

My parents have passed away some time ago. I was privileged to aid them in the day to day routine it takes to survive this beautiful life we have by providing transportation as needed and advise and a shoulder to lean on when they needed it. I don't judge others until they judge me or someone I care about. I didn't judge at all I gave a suggestion on where to focus attention...my humble opinion...as of today I am allowed that. I wish you luck at home. I'm also glad to see someone honoring their dad..it's a good example to others.

[dirtbanker]

The OP is an attorney. Ever think the OP's father is living with HIM...
I would have never guessed the attorney. Surprised he was unaware of ALPR technology. Maybe he does not do traffic stuff...

No, I did not think his father was living with him and paying for auto insurance in return. In fact, I mentioned my personal experience and stated how it has made me skeptical of grown men living with their parents...

[Nucky]

dirtbanker. My name is Nucky not Nutty as it looks like you may have adjusted that in post #28 in this thread. Very good, since you couldn't get me in substance you proceeded with changing a simple name...Nice.

[dirtbanker]

Thanks for the name clarification. It seems you are ruffled by my statement with regard to grown men living with their parents. I will let "Captain Crack" know you have all kind of suggestions to HELP him straighten out. Heck when the mother in law passes away, maybe you would be HELPful enough to take him in.

[dirtbanker]

I appoligize to Tal if the stories I shared, and the questions I posed, might have came across as harsh and insulting. I honestly have no idea what your personal situation is, and it is none of my business.

[CFrance]

Thanks Tal for the info. And to others for the explanation about the readers on police vehicles. I did not know. Must make theirjob a bit easier--and us a bit safer.

[Taltarzac725]

Thanks Tal for the info. And to others for the explanation about the readers on police vehicles. I did not know. Must make theirjob a bit easier--and us a bit safer.

You are welcome.

We did get Beef O'Brady's last night (Sunday) after a hour or so spent at one of my neighbor's very crowded birthday parties. The phone was off the hook on a Saturday night at Beefs and that is why I took my trip to Subway in which I encountered the police officer. I was very surprised when he pulled me over as I could not think of what I had done wrong. I have not had a ticket of any kind since 1996 and that was east of El Paso, Texas where nothing was out there.

I am a law librarian by training and inclination not an attorney. I do have a JD from the University of Minnesota (Class of 1989) and a MA in Librarianship and Information Management from the University of Denver (Class of May 1984) and two BAs (University of Nevada, Reno, Classes of December 1980 and May 1981). I still ply my trade even if no one pays me to do it with my 224 613 Project and believe that I have had a HUGE impact with it. From 1992 through 2002, Marquis Who's Who nominated to 24 of the various editions of works like Who's Who in the World , Marquis Who's Who in America and Marquis Who's Who in American Law. I got into 14 various editions all while living with my parents but working on the labor of love which is the 224 613 Project. Google Taltarzac725 if you want to know what I am talking about. I believe it is very relevant in 2016 as well. I have been very creative with who I have tried to get involved in this Project but I have had a great deal of suggestions from many friends as to whom also to get involved. I was in Northern CA from late 1991 through 1996, then moved to Palm Harbor, FL after driving cross country in 1996 (through El Paso, Texas) with a detour through Austin, Texas. I wanted to check out the Texas Capitol building.

Again Google Taltarzac725 if you want to find out what this is about. May the Force be with You. (A little inside joke). Gary Corsair formerly of Villages Daily Sun did a short article on my 224 613 Project such as it was during the Memorial Day weekend of 2007. He had wanted to look at my various documents but I declined as I knew nothing about him at that time. He was just in our neighborhood looking for stories when my Mom told him about my work for survivors/victims of crimes. Maybe that was a mistake not to show him these documents now up on my Photobucket array; maybe, it was not. Many people now can see these documents though by Googling Taltarzac725. A copy of Gary Corsair's article is one of these documents as are letters connected with people you see in the news right now.

[flyerguy]

That sounds a little backwards to me, shouldn't the 57 year old guy have insurance for himself? My brother in law "Captain Crack" is a loser sponge at age 54, has not had a job in 30 some years (has had no income either!). My mother in law cooks, cleans, and provides that worthless lair with a roof and vehicle (you should hear his ideas on mass transit improvements). Has 2 kids (with different women) that he never contributed a dime towards. A real POS in society...Sort of makes me skeptical of grown men living with their parents.

WOW! This sounds like it has all the makings for a good Dr. Phil show.

[Taltarzac725]

WOW! This sounds like it has all the makings for a good Dr. Phil show.

More like Jerry Springer. Not mine. That of Dirtbanker. Mine would make a very interesting movie. I have loved movies since auditing two movie criticism classes of Howard Rosenberg at the University of Nevada, Reno. Howard Rosenberg (http://www.unr.edu/art/people/howard-rosenberg)