View Full Version : Wake up call
Guest
11-28-2008, 06:40 PM
While we discuss the financial situation in the world, and watch preparations for the incoming President, lets not forget or take our eyes off the rest of the world events...
....On going terrorist attack in India
...."Russian President Dmitry Medvedev agreed to help start a nuclear energy program in Venezuela and said Moscow is willing to participate in a socialist trade bloc in Latin America led by President Hugo Chavez."
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94NBROO0&show_article=1
...."Russia will complete Iran's first nuclear power plant in 2009, Itar-Tass news agency quoted the head of Russia's state nuclear corporation as saying on Thursday."
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-36735220081127
The world is a dangerous place and our country is beginning to be surrounded by terror. We should not live in fear but we certainly better be aware of what is going on around us.
I am always reminded of our enemies saying how they will destroy us from within, and how so many say this is not a real war, this war on terror.
Guest
11-28-2008, 09:25 PM
EVERYONE must live and respond politically knowing radical Islam wants us all dead...
Guest
11-28-2008, 10:52 PM
There is a lot going on in the world that we need to pay attention to....what is our CURRENT President doing in regards to this? After all he still is our Commander in Chief.....right?
Not being sarcastic....this is a real question! What is G. W. doing for us while he is still in command!?
Guest
11-28-2008, 10:59 PM
He's doing what he's been doing, trying to keep us safe. It's not an easy job when the media and congress are undermining him every step of the way.
Guest
11-28-2008, 11:18 PM
There is a lot going on in the world that we need to pay attention to....what is our CURRENT President doing in regards to this? After all he still is our Commander in Chief.....right?
Not being sarcastic....this is a real question! What is G. W. doing for us while he is still in command!?
Have you noticed we haven't been attacked since 9-11?:ohdear:
Do you thing every possible attack that may have been stopped is available to the public?
I don't.
Guest
11-28-2008, 11:20 PM
He's doing what he's been doing, trying to keep us safe. It's not an easy job when the media and congress are undermining him every step of the way.
AMEN!:clap2:
Guest
11-28-2008, 11:26 PM
For some reason I have no faith that it is HIM that is keeping us safe...I think it is all those brave men and women overseas that are keeping us safe!!!
I think he is hiding as much as he can right now!! I KNOW we have not been attacked since 9-11.....BUT I think he hides behind some great military people as much as he can...and we have an amazing military that is keeping them (the enemy) quiet!!!
I think that there is more talk about attacks right now because they want to scare President Elect Obama......but I don't see him showing his fear or hiding.....
THIS is MY opinion......
JUST MY OPINION!!! wrong or right.....
Guest
11-28-2008, 11:32 PM
For some reason I have no faith that it is HIM that is keeping us safe...I think it is all those brave men and women overseas that are keeping us safe!!!
I think he is hiding as much as he can right now!! I KNOW we have not been attacked since 9-11.....BUT I think he hides behind some great military people as much as he can...and we have an amazing military that is keeping them (the enemy) quiet!!!
I think that there is more talk about attacks right now because they want to scare President Elect Obama......but I don't see him showing his fear or hiding.....
THIS is MY opinion......
JUST MY OPINION!!! wrong or right.....
I was going to respond,but it isn't worth trying to discuss,sorry I bothered to post.:ohdear:
Guest
11-28-2008, 11:38 PM
I was going to respond,but it isn't worth trying to discuss,sorry I bothered to post.:ohdear:
Isn't that what this is for....discussion....sharing each others opinions! I am not saying I am right or wrong...I was sharing my opinion!
Please share yours....that is what this is made for!!
We will never agree on anything polititcal....but we can always share our own opinions....and perhaps enlighten someone else!!
TOTV Political was getting too quiet anyway.....:beer3:
Never be sorry about posting!!!;)
Guest
11-29-2008, 12:48 AM
Cassie, yes, the military is doing a great job. Bush is the commander in chief of the military. Besides the military there are all kinds of behind the scenes groups working to protect us. CIA etc. I don't think Bush is hiding. The media is only interested in singing Obama's praises. By the way, if a Republican president elect had a sign in front of his podium that said, "office of the president elect", the media would go crazy.
Guest
11-29-2008, 01:07 AM
Sometime during the course of the presidential campaign, one candidate or the other opined that the President could do more than one thing simultaneously. Given the myriad of serious and worsening problems facing our nation, yes Barack Obama will be very busy attending to all of them.
Obviously, there will have to be priorities. And there may be some problems that he simply won't be able to get to or that we won't be able to afford to fix for awhile. I feel sorry for our young President. His hair will be white before the next election.
When you think of the heavy and continuous responsibilities of the job, it makes you wonder why anyone would make such personal sacrifices to do it. One certainly has to respect the commitment of anyone who holds the office and be thankful that we elected someone so obviously committed, smart and talented.
Guest
11-29-2008, 01:15 AM
Cassie, yes, the military is doing a great job. Bush is the commander in chief of the military. Besides the military there are all kinds of behind the scenes groups working to protect us. CIA etc. I don't think Bush is hiding. The media is only interested in singing Obama's praises. By the way, if a Republican president elect had a sign in front of his podium that said, "office of the president elect", the media would go crazy.
Perhaps they would have seen some confidence in the republican candidate....perhaps if anyone saw the confidence he would have had a chance at being elected...IMO! YES....there are MANY people behind the scenes keeping us safe along with the armed services....I AGREE....but I still think President Bush has retired early....again MO...
Gosh I have missed political!!
Sally Jo....love your thoughts and insight!! Thanks for sharing..whether we agree or not!!
Guest
11-29-2008, 06:21 AM
Don't forget what Jou Biden predicted....
Guest
11-29-2008, 07:10 AM
For some reason I have no faith that it is HIM that is keeping us safe...I think it is all those brave men and women overseas that are keeping us safe!!!
I think he is hiding as much as he can right now!! I KNOW we have not been attacked since 9-11.....BUT I think he hides behind some great military people as much as he can...and we have an amazing military that is keeping them (the enemy) quiet!!!
I think that there is more talk about attacks right now because they want to scare President Elect Obama......but I don't see him showing his fear or hiding.....
THIS is MY opinion......
JUST MY OPINION!!! wrong or right.....
WOW...talk about taking a thread to discuss world situations and turning it into a bash Bush fest. Keeping us safe is certainly a non partisan issue and the current administration, much to the chagrin of those who wish to bash, has done a great job.
WOW....gets old that no matter what you want to discuss you either have to hate Bush or adore Obama !!!
Guest
11-29-2008, 09:34 AM
For some reason I have no faith that it is HIM that is keeping us safe...I think it is all those brave men and women overseas that are keeping us safe!!!
I think he is hiding as much as he can right now!! I KNOW we have not been attacked since 9-11.....BUT I think he hides behind some great military people as much as he can...and we have an amazing military that is keeping them (the enemy) quiet!!!
I think that there is more talk about attacks right now because they want to scare President Elect Obama......but I don't see him showing his fear or hiding.....
THIS is MY opinion......
JUST MY OPINION!!! wrong or right.....
And just what would you expect Pres. Bush should be doing right now?
Your dislike for the sitting president is quite evident. However, the need to take parting shots at random with no substance or basis is strange.
What you apparently don't see is the amount of work involved in transitioning administrations. While the national business du jour continues, the continuous briefing of the next guard, and preparing for potential problems that can occur the day before, the day of, and the day after the handover is immense. If the only time anyone thinks a president is doing something is when he's mugging for a camera, then there is little knowledge of what really goes on inside an administration.
If "hiding" is taking responsibility for all of the preparatory efforts for transition while doing everything possible to insure what happened when the UK had it's changeover doesn't happen here or is mitigated to the best efforts possible, then Pres. Bush and his staff are "hiding" very well.
And as far as the military goes, they are indeed doing their jobs very well. But don't forget the federal, state and local law enforcement agencies, intelligence agencies and homeland security offices working in partnership on counterterrorism. Their work goes unnoticed by the public at large, but their productivity has been made much more effective by the actions, policies, resources and dedication to fusion-of-efforts by this administration.
Pres. Bush and his cabinet are not perfect - no administration has ever been. However, a lot of that dislike has been nurtured by a liberal media determined to accent the negative and disregard the positive - and there have been positives.
When Mr. Obama's administration takes over, there will be a 6-month press honeymoon during which time whatever errors he and his staff make will be written off as the result of not knowing "how bad" things were. However, if the Obama administration does not kiss the media's collective rumps and give them unfettered access to everything, to include credit for being the intellectual spirit guide for the administration, then the camera will be focused in a different manner to show all of his faults and shortcomings. That's just the way of things....
Guest
11-29-2008, 04:55 PM
Cassie, yes, the military is doing a great job. Bush is the commander in chief of the military. Besides the military there are all kinds of behind the scenes groups working to protect us. CIA etc. I don't think Bush is hiding. The media is only interested in singing Obama's praises. By the way, if a Republican president elect had a sign in front of his podium that said, "office of the president elect", the media would go crazy.
:agree::agree::agree:
Guest
11-29-2008, 04:57 PM
And just what would you expect Pres. Bush should be doing right now?
Your dislike for the sitting president is quite evident. However, the need to take parting shots at random with no substance or basis is strange.
What you apparently don't see is the amount of work involved in transitioning administrations. While the national business du jour continues, the continuous briefing of the next guard, and preparing for potential problems that can occur the day before, the day of, and the day after the handover is immense. If the only time anyone thinks a president is doing something is when he's mugging for a camera, then there is little knowledge of what really goes on inside an administration.
If "hiding" is taking responsibility for all of the preparatory efforts for transition while doing everything possible to insure what happened when the UK had it's changeover doesn't happen here or is mitigated to the best efforts possible, then Pres. Bush and his staff are "hiding" very well.
And as far as the military goes, they are indeed doing their jobs very well. But don't forget the federal, state and local law enforcement agencies, intelligence agencies and homeland security offices working in partnership on counterterrorism. Their work goes unnoticed by the public at large, but their productivity has been made much more effective by the actions, policies, resources and dedication to fusion-of-efforts by this administration.
Pres. Bush and his cabinet are not perfect - no administration has ever been. However, a lot of that dislike has been nurtured by a liberal media determined to accent the negative and disregard the positive - and there have been positives.
When Mr. Obama's administration takes over, there will be a 6-month press honeymoon during which time whatever errors he and his staff make will be written off as the result of not knowing "how bad" things were. However, if the Obama administration does not kiss the media's collective rumps and give them unfettered access to everything, to include credit for being the intellectual spirit guide for the administration, then the camera will be focused in a different manner to show all of his faults and shortcomings. That's just the way of things....
:agree::agree::agree:
Guest
11-29-2008, 06:52 PM
If you look at the history of the Islamic attacks in the U.S., Israel and Great Britain, they are spaced out. If things go according to the past, there should be another attack within the next two years. Barring a disturbed individual, I would have been very surprised had there been attack in the past 6 years.
Most Muslims are very patient people. They understand that they've been around for centuries and will probably be around for many centuries more. That means waiting 5-8 years in between attacks is nothing to them.
There are many things I blame Pres. Bush for. However, whether or not there is an attack I honestly believe has nothing to do with who is president of this nation. It has more to do when plans, including all funding and training, are in place. I sincerely doubt the radicals care what party or individual is in charge -- just whether the training is complete; whether they have all necessary materials; whether the leaders can escape (the lower-echelon are simply cannon fodder in their eyes, anyway); whether the plans are in fact viable and will create havoc and fear.
Guest
11-29-2008, 07:01 PM
And just what would you expect Pres. Bush should be doing right now?
Your dislike for the sitting president is quite evident. However, the need to take parting shots at random with no substance or basis is strange.
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If this is what this new administration has spawned, and I am not saying it is true..just basing it on what I am hearing.....that President Obama is blessed and does no wrong and everything will be someone elses fault, then we have spawned something that is more scary than I thought. I thought that would go by the wayside after the campaign.
I do not understand the narrow minded, party FIRST folks, and never will !
Guest
11-29-2008, 08:44 PM
he hasn't even taken office yet. He has already been managing expectations down from all the campaign promises. Maybe all the wisdom from the staff he is pulling together is advising him to back peddle. Until he takes office he has no clue about what he will be able to do or not.
Anticipation doesn't get the job done...promises kept VS promises made.
What keeps ringing in my ears are all the promises made when the Dems took over the Congress two years ago. How did their promises kept VS promises made turn out two years hence. Not too good as they managed to earn the lowest approval rating in history. But we don't see or hear much about that. And there is no bashing of the incompetent incumbents earning those low numbers. And that is not a surprise.
That is exactly how it will be with Obama. His honeymoon with the media will go far, far, FAR beyond the first 6 months.
Talk is cheap....and that is ALL we have to date.
One year from today will allow a more substantive call regarding what he achieves. And no I am not expecting him to fix all the things wrong in the world the first year. Only deliver on some of the shorter term promises made...not " it is going to take longer than expected " that's called waffling already.
We shall see.
BTK
Guest
11-29-2008, 09:02 PM
The political left has done great harm to this country both here at home and abroad through their uninformed and unreasoning hatred of President Bush. IMHO, it would be extremely damaging to the country to have conservatives react to our next President in the same manner.
We need to support the President's positions when we agree with him and serve as the loyal opposition when we disagree. The emphasis is on the word loyal - we should always respect the office of the President and remember that partisanship stops at water's edge. If we emulate the actions of the dumbocrats, then we are no better than them at supporting our country.
Guest
11-29-2008, 09:05 PM
Seems to me that a President, any President...if you give him the sole blame you must also give him the sole credit.
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