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Bjeanj
03-18-2016, 10:33 AM
Since moving here last May, I have seen several notices of water main breaks, most recently in the Village of Santiago. In Indiana, we usually had water main breaks in winter due to the cold. Why does that happen here? Is it age, land subsidence, ??
Does anyone know for sure, as opposed to simple speculation? Do I ask the CDD?
CWGUY
03-18-2016, 11:06 AM
Since moving here last May, I have seen several notices of water main breaks, most recently in the Village of Santiago. In Indiana, we usually had water main breaks in winter due to the cold. Why does that happen here? Is it age, land subsidence, ??
Does anyone know for sure, as opposed to simple speculation? Do I ask the CDD?
:ohdear: WHY?
Bjeanj
03-18-2016, 12:35 PM
Who do you suggest I ask?
CWGUY
03-18-2016, 12:38 PM
Who do you suggest I ask?
:ohdear: Again...why? Is this something you are losing sleep over?
graciegirl
03-18-2016, 01:16 PM
or google watermain breaks and insert a town in central Florida like Tampa or Orlando. It is my guess that sand and shifting sands (i.e. sinkholes) has a lot to do with it.
Here is a google from Tampa;
water main breaks in Tampa - Bing (http://www.bing.com/search?q=water+main+breaks+in+Tampa&qs=n&form=QBLH&pq=water+main+breaks+in+tampa&sc=1-26&sp=-1&sk=&cvid=CA18278911A44D109B3502631E52C6A9)
Retiring
03-18-2016, 01:18 PM
:ohdear: Again...why? Is this something you are losing sleep over?
Used to be when someone asked a question the replies might be serious, funny, sarcastic, flippant or even nasty. But please don’t criticize for simply asking a question. I see this happening more and more.
In my case I see this forum as a place to ask any and every question I have re: TV. In the past I have been blasted for asking certain questions, consequently I’ve learned to stay away from sensitive topics. Although, I don’t know or have ever met anyone on this forum, I’m thin skinned and it does bother me when I’m slammed – I have to assume others may feel the same way, including the person writing the OP. Please be kind.
graciegirl
03-18-2016, 01:20 PM
But this is another interesting bit of information;
Water Main Break Clock (http://watermainbreakclock.com/)
RickeyD
03-18-2016, 01:51 PM
Seems like this topic was discussed 2 months ago. Why the revisit so soon especially since a water main break is a notoriously boring subject.
RickeyD
03-18-2016, 01:58 PM
Or maybe, a priest, rabbi & water main mechanic walk into a bar and ....
graciegirl
03-18-2016, 02:02 PM
Seems like this topic was discussed 2 months ago. Why the revisit so soon especially since a water main break is a notoriously boring subject.
I was going to ask how long it takes to watch paint dry in Florida, you know, with all this humidity? I mean do you think it has anything to do with the developer owning that paint supply company?
graciegirl
03-18-2016, 02:06 PM
Or maybe, a priest, rabbi & water main mechanic walk into a bar and ....
Sorry. I walked on your joke line...continue..;)
Jima64
03-18-2016, 02:18 PM
:ohdear: Again...why? Is this something you are losing sleep over?
Nice to know what causes the reason for people to boil water.
Nucky
03-18-2016, 02:22 PM
This is a subject that is of some great interest to me. I made the majority of my living producing the material that creates the pipes in the street, the curb in front of your home, the slab you live on and the floors in hi rise office buildings and the patio you BBQ on. It is a very serious subject but no cause for any alarm whatsoever. What you are facing is a inconvenience, if it was a concrete strength failure on the 20th floor of a 60 floor building then maybe a little different. It is a high probability that it is not the material of the pipe but is the ground shifting around the pipe. I can't see the pipe from where I am. Heavy equipment travel can also cause a problem.
rubicon
03-18-2016, 02:51 PM
bjeanj: I understand your concern and wish that I had a viable response but the best that I can do is to say that since we do not have freezing temperature here, its likely the manner in which the main was constructed, the terrain surrounding it or construction that accidentally hit a water main.
Personal Best Regards:
Harry Gilbert
03-18-2016, 04:21 PM
With sections of TV pushing 50 the condition of the infrastructure is a valid concern
RickeyD
03-18-2016, 04:49 PM
Sorry. I walked on your joke line...continue..;)
...a rabbi, a priest, and a minister walk into a bar. The bartender looks at them and says, "What is this, a joke?" :a040:
RickeyD
03-18-2016, 04:53 PM
This is a subject that is of some great interest to me. I made the majority of my living producing the material that creates the pipes in the street, the curb in front of your home, the slab you live on and the floors in hi rise office buildings and the patio you BBQ on. It is a very serious subject but no cause for any alarm whatsoever. What you are facing is a inconvenience, if it was a concrete strength failure on the 20th floor of a 60 floor building then maybe a little different. It is a high probability that it is not the material of the pipe but is the ground shifting around the pipe. I can't see the pipe from where I am. Heavy equipment travel can also cause a problem.
So, are we to assume you're the one responsible for cement costing twice as much in the NYC metro ? Are you Jimmy "the Nucky" Catalano ?
Bjeanj
03-18-2016, 06:38 PM
I am the OP, and I thought of several initial responses to two of the responses. I then thought better of it, since some people may not be aware of how questions/comments intended to be witty do not always translate well online.
Rather than say "what's it to ya" or "if not interested, go on to the next post" to some of the responders, I will say that I am interested in the answer to my question for a couple of reasons, including who pays for all these repairs? Is the cost passed on to us? Are there more sinkholes than we suspected? Is that what is causing the water main breaks? This part of town isn't that old, so the pipes should still be good, I would think.
I am appreciative for the thoughtful responses.
blueash
03-18-2016, 06:50 PM
maybe lightning
Leaky Plumbing Linked To Lightning Strikes - tribunedigital-orlandosentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1996-06-23/news/9606220557_1_lightning-strikes-copper-lightning-capital)
One would think when the pipe is examined a reasonable guess would be made. Was the pipe broken, corroded, connection loosened, etc. If is was ground movement that might be harder to determine after the break has caused the surrounding soil and sand to be washed away.
graciegirl
03-18-2016, 07:01 PM
I am the OP, and I thought of several initial responses to two of the responses. I then thought better of it, since some people may not be aware of how questions/comments intended to be witty do not always translate well online.
Rather than say "what's it to ya" or "if not interested, go on to the next post" to some of the responders, I will say that I am interested in the answer to my question for a couple of reasons, including who pays for all these repairs? Is the cost passed on to us? Are there more sinkholes than we suspected? Is that what is causing the water main breaks? This part of town isn't that old, so the pipes should still be good, I would think.
I am appreciative for the thoughtful responses.
If I remember what I read some time ago, I used to be SO good at that, Sumter County is seventh in Florida for number of sinkholes. Near Tampa is the worst area. Our amenity fee is based on cost of living. Not even some overactive and enthusiastic spenders who are elected to the CDD boards can make the amenity fee go up. We have had broken pipes and sinkholes at a somewhat constant rate since we first stepped into The Villages some nine years ago and we have NEVER had an "extra" bill for any repairs. We are assessed for grounds keeping of the common areas and perhaps it falls under that.
Nucky
03-18-2016, 07:19 PM
So, are we to assume you're the one responsible for cement costing twice as much in the NYC metro ? Are you Jimmy "the Nucky" Catalano ?
I was in the manufacturing & muscle side of the business and collections. $$$ Finance was left to the suits & salesmen. I was happy for the strong union that the drivers worked for because it just made our package better without having to pay the dues. Old school bosses who were the greatest. Customers who treated us like family..a storybook job. Stories to follow in person if we ever get to TV. Two kids still driving mixers here so I get to hear about everything. ZZzzz. Concrete Pipe is a specialty item and technically involved.
Nucky came from my grandfather and someone he was hanging with during prohibition in the Oranges in New Jersey, said I looked like a younger version of this person but I never met the man myself. Castellano, never heard of him, Capische.
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