Why people vote for Trump?

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The article is somewhat lengthy but a decent summary and rationale.

What it left out is some commentary regarding the democrats that are gravitating toward Trump. Simply put many resonate with what Trump has to say about the establishment. And secondly they just will not vote for an untrustworthy, lying, felonious tired old fashioned politics as usual self centered phony.

The American establishment as well as the cronys world wide living off America unjustifiably are fighting a losing battle because for once there is a candidate who is reflecting exactly how many Americans think.....like it or not.

I do not particularly like how Trump always feels he has to lash out with so many personal attacks especially when baited in counterpoint.

I do think he will bring in much more talent to get the job done than any president in recent history. This unto itself has the establishment in fear as their career positions will be at risk.

In a match up between Trump and Clinton it will be a street fight. In the end the one with the most skeletons of concern and vulnerability will be exposed for what she is.....a lying, felonious, self centered, tired and worn out crony politics as usual loser.

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Here is the link to go with the gabetorial above:

Camille Paglia: This is why Trump (http://www.salon.com/2016/03/24/camille_paglia_this_is_why_trumps_winning_and_why_ i_wont_vote_for_hillary/)

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Meanwhile, it was jarring to see a beaming President Obama relaxing at a Cuban baseball game, while grisly photos of the wrecked terminal and dazed, bloodied victims in Belgium were on steady media feed all over the world.
[We have all been through many mass shootings and terrorists attacks. How is it handled in Israel? They clean up the mess, morn, investigate and life goes on. After a while you get numb, sad but true. How have Presidents, including this one react in the past? Did that reaction work before?]

Trump’s credibility would be enhanced if he treated the vital immigration issue in general policy terms rather than divisively singling out specific groups (Mexican, Muslim), the majority of whom are manifestly law-abiding.
[But that is not the Trump that makes his constituency feel good about themselves. Maybe it's future Trump. He has a reputation for saying what you want to hear. But his first reaction is a wise guy.]

Hillary Clinton’s Brussels response was basically boilerplate, calling for solidarity with Europe and playing chess with Trump to paint him as a greenhorn and hothead.

Bernie Sanders (whom I support and contribute to) had little to say, beyond conveying condolences to the Belgian people, because foreign affairs have unfortunately remained a sideline for him.

[Hillary's] failure of strategy that has proved costly in the long run.


Ted Cruz took the prize for dolt of the day, however, with his call for U.S. law enforcement to “patrol and secure Muslim neighborhoods before they become radicalized.” [I][Why is this considered stupid? Everyone said that the agencies were not sharing information. Now that they are sharing, why is it stupid to patrol and secure any neighborhood? Call it a Muslim gang if that makes it more palatable.]

Trump may be raw, crude and uninformed, but he’s also smart, intuitive and a quick study who will presumably get up to passable speed as he assembles a brain trust over the coming months. [Wishful thinking that is not based on political experience. If you don't like Obama because he wasn't prepared how in the world would you like Trump?]


Whether Trump can temper his shoot-from-the-hip impetuosity is another matter.[He never has before. There is too much at stake to roll the dice.]

But it’s business as usual for tone-deaf party leaders who, barely more than a day after the discovery of Antonin Scalia’s corpse last month, stupidly proclaimed there would be no hearings for an Obama nominee to the Supreme Court.

John Kasich: And his skills as a public figure are embarrassingly rudimentary: he blurts, lurches, and waves his arms around like a windmill. He lacks patience, subtlety, and finesse. Not presidential. [Couldn't all that be said about Trump?]


Sanders remains too unknown to too much of the electorate, particularly in the South.

I will write in Sanders or vote for Jill Stein of the Green Party, as I did in 2012 as a protest against Obama’s unethical use of drones and the racially divisive tone of his administration. [Really? I understand. There is no right answer.]

A vote for Bernie Sanders is a vote for the future,
[I agree. At least he got 15 minutes of fame. It's a start.]

A primary vote for Donald Trump is a rebuke to the arrogantly insular GOP establishment, which if he wins the nomination will lose its power and influence overnight.

However, there is one way out to ensure a rational, future-oriented, issues-centered presidential campaign: Democrats, vote for Bernie Sanders!
[I didn't really see this opinion coming from the beginning. My opinions are just quick thoughts. Try not to let it turn into another "feeding frenzie. I think it's sad to ask people to read something and feel the need to sugar coat it with it's not too long. Either your are interested in politics or not. Allow others to voice their opinions not just toss the boiler plated insults you see all too often.]

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Maybe there should be another thread;

why would anybody vote for Clinton.

The classic crony, politics as usual say what they wanna hear liar! (and felon).

Perfect example?
Her very positive commenatary about Nancy Reagens work with AIDS or AIDS related.
Then before the day was over appoligizing for having made such comments to placate those in the gay/aids/whatever community who sounded the alarm of being offended.

Clinton? No problem....we did not mean what we just said about Reagen....so sorry please forgive me and don't forget to vote for me.

Disgusting display of two faced, unethical, untrustworthy liar.

A very small example of why some dems will not vote for her. Doesn't matter they have a D after their name. They do have human values that are more important than party.

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Hillary has promised to put thousands of coal miners out of work and close the coal mines. She said it, not me.

Hillary’s vow to kill coal miners’ jobs finishes a vast Democratic betrayal | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2016/03/14/hillarys-vow-to-kill-coal-miners-jobs-finishes-a-vast-democratic-betrayal/)
“We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business,” Clinton said Sunday night while boasting about her clean energy program — and with a big smile on her face.

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Bernie made a complete fool of himself, making a lewd comment about one of the women where he was giving a speech. Not a surprise for one that wrote porno in the '70s.

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Bernie made a complete fool of himself, making a lewd comment about one of the women where he was giving a speech. Not a surprise for one that wrote porno in the '70s.Was it Rosie O'Donnell, Meghan Kelly or Carlie Fiorino because they usually defend themselves? There the only ones I could find that have been treated that way.

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Was it Rosie O'Donnell, Meghan Kelly or Carlie Fiorino because they usually defend themselves? There the only ones I could find that have been treated that way.

No, it was a young lady in the audience where he was giving a speech. He made a lewd comment regarding her appearance.

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No, it was a young lady in the audience where he was giving a speech. He made a lewd comment regarding her appearance.I see your point. That's Why people vote for Trump?.

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I have no idea why other folks vote for Trump. In all appearances, the theme to the large voter turn out for Trump seems to be that they are fed up with the current administration, and Hillary has promised to stay on his course. Trump is promising a real change from the current failed policies.

Now, as far as I am concerned I did not vote for him in the primary. I voted against him. BUT, if he gets the nomination he will get my vote in the primary. Why? Because I find it extremely important that neither Hillary or Sanders gets elected. I would vote for any of the original 17 candidates if it meant keeping Hillary or Sanders from winning. This country is hurting enough as it is. More of the same will do it more damage. So, if Trump gets the nomination he gets my vote. If Cruz gets the nomination, he gets my vote.
As bad as both are, they are so much better than a Socialist or a criminal that has no respect for national security, hates the military and cheats on her taxes.

[Guest]

You responded to the question.
I thought reading the article was part of the assignment and I responded to the article.

I'll try again. Why people vote for Trump?.
I think people vote for Trump because he is different. The others prepare speeches based on research and thought. Trump seems to shoot from the hip with no filters. I don't find that refreshing. I want a leader who thinks before they speak. One study indicated he lies once every five minutes.

I want someone that doesn't boast they have the greatest memory in the world, someone who doesn't boast they never forgive someone who doesn't boast they never make mistakes. I've never met anyone like that before and neither has anyone else. If you buy into it because it's something different it just doesn't make sense to me. Trump can't be bought because he is worth $10 billion dollars. That's different too. Bernie can't be bought because of principals but that's off topic.

A woman called Cruz a pussy. Trump repeated it and then said remember I didn't say that. How childlike.

McCain passed his wireless microphone to one woman who said, "I can't trust Obama. I have read about him and he's not, he's not uh — he's an Arab. He's not — " before McCain retook the microphone and replied:
"No, ma'am. He's a decent family man [and] citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign's all about. He's not [an Arab]."

I don't think Trump is a decent man. I don't trust him. Trump says he's not PC. Yet he took way too long to let his view on the KKK be revealed. I think he wanted to make sure it wasn't going to cost him votes.

McCains is a decent man that did the most politically incorrect thing you could do. He was instantly honest about respecting his opponent never caring about votes.

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I have no idea why other folks vote for Trump. In all appearances, the theme to the large voter turn out for Trump seems to be that they are fed up with the current administration, and Hillary has promised to stay on his course. Trump is promising a real change from the current failed policies.

Now, as far as I am concerned I did not vote for him in the primary. I voted against him. BUT, if he gets the nomination he will get my vote in the primary. Why? Because I find it extremely important that neither Hillary or Sanders gets elected. I would vote for any of the original 17 candidates if it meant keeping Hillary or Sanders from winning. This country is hurting enough as it is. More of the same will do it more damage. So, if Trump gets the nomination he gets my vote. If Cruz gets the nomination, he gets my vote.
As bad as both are, they are so much better than a Socialist or a criminal that has no respect for national security, hates the military and cheats on her taxes.

Pretty much sums up how many voters feel....yes including democrats!!

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Hillary has promised to put thousands of coal miners out of work and close the coal mines. She said it, not me.

Hillary’s vow to kill coal miners’ jobs finishes a vast Democratic betrayal | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2016/03/14/hillarys-vow-to-kill-coal-miners-jobs-finishes-a-vast-democratic-betrayal/)
“We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business,” Clinton said Sunday night while boasting about her clean energy program — and with a big smile on her face.
Great idea. The less coal the better. Times do change. Did you feel bad when people that sold beepers were put out of work?

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I have no idea why other folks vote for Trump. In all appearances, the theme to the large voter turn out for Trump seems to be that they are fed up with the current administration, and Hillary has promised to stay on his course. Trump is promising a real change from the current failed policies.

Now, as far as I am concerned I did not vote for him in the primary. I voted against him. BUT, if he gets the nomination he will get my vote in the primary. Why? Because I find it extremely important that neither Hillary or Sanders gets elected. I would vote for any of the original 17 candidates if it meant keeping Hillary or Sanders from winning. This country is hurting enough as it is. More of the same will do it more damage. So, if Trump gets the nomination he gets my vote. If Cruz gets the nomination, he gets my vote.
As bad as both are, they are so much better than a Socialist or a criminal that has no respect for national security, hates the military and cheats on her taxes.
You wrote all this drivel to say you vote Republican?

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Maybe there should be another thread;

why would anybody vote for Clinton.

The classic crony, politics as usual say what they wanna hear liar! (and felon).

Perfect example?
Her very positive commenatary about Nancy Reagens work with AIDS or AIDS related.
Then before the day was over appoligizing for having made such comments to placate those in the gay/aids/whatever community who sounded the alarm of being offended.

Clinton? No problem....we did not mean what we just said about Reagen....so sorry please forgive me and don't forget to vote for me.

Disgusting display of two faced, unethical, untrustworthy liar.

A very small example of why some dems will not vote for her. Doesn't matter they have a D after their name. They do have human values that are more important than party.

Clinton is actually the MOST predictable candidate in recent years. Since she has no core values except self advancement ( and $$$ ) she always bends to whatever the polls tell her is popular at the moment

Sometimes it's almost like the pollster has a silent wireless connection directly to her brain

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You responded to the question.
I thought reading the article was part of the assignment and I responded to the article.

I'll try again. Why people vote for Trump?.
I think people vote for Trump because he is different. The others prepare speeches based on research and thought. Trump seems to shoot from the hip with no filters. I don't find that refreshing. I want a leader who thinks before they speak. One study indicated he lies once every five minutes.

I want someone that doesn't boast they have the greatest memory in the world, someone who doesn't boast they never forgive someone who doesn't boast they never make mistakes. I've never met anyone like that before and neither has anyone else. If you buy into it because it's something different it just doesn't make sense to me. Trump can't be bought because he is worth $10 billion dollars. That's different too. Bernie can't be bought because of principals but that's off topic.

A woman called Cruz a pussy. Trump repeated it and then said remember I didn't say that. How childlike.

McCain passed his wireless microphone to one woman who said, "I can't trust Obama. I have read about him and he's not, he's not uh — he's an Arab. He's not — " before McCain retook the microphone and replied:
"No, ma'am. He's a decent family man [and] citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign's all about. He's not [an Arab]."

I don't think Trump is a decent man. I don't trust him. Trump says he's not PC. Yet he took way too long to let his view on the KKK be revealed. I think he wanted to make sure it wasn't going to cost him votes.

McCains is a decent man that did the most politically incorrect thing you could do. He was instantly honest about respecting his opponent never caring about votes.
I agree. And, BTW, I am an independent who would have voted for McCain until he picked that Palin woman as his VP. Frankly, she just didn't seem too intelligent. But McCain earned my respect.

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I agree. And, BTW, I am an independent who would have voted for McCain until he picked that Palin woman as his VP. Frankly, she just didn't seem too intelligent. But McCain earned my respect.
Thank-you
I didn't mention Palin but feel the same way. For very mean spirited reasons I don't want agitators to stop or interrupt a single word or thought that Palin or Trump want to share.
For that reason I don't think Bernie is paying them. He is too smart.

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Thank-you
I didn't mention Palin but feel the same way. For very mean spirited reasons I don't want agitators to stop or interrupt a single word or thought that Palin or Trump want to share.
For that reason I don't think Bernie is paying them. He is too smart.

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Thank-you
I didn't mention Palin but feel the same way. For very mean spirited reasons I don't want agitators to stop or interrupt a single word or thought that Palin or Trump want to share.
For that reason I don't think Bernie is paying them. He is too smart.

Palin and Trump embarrass themselves every time they open their mouths. No need to pay them, they act stupid for free.

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Palin and Trump embarrass themselves every time they open their mouths. No need to pay them, they act stupid for free.

Yes, Obama doesn't sound stupid, but he does say stupid things. He very intelligently says that he planned to campaign in all 57 states. And it was not his fault that the teleprompter didn't give him any hints as to how to pronounce Corpsman. He did mispronounce it very smartly though.

They all make mistakes. Biden has been ammo for many successful late night comedy shows.

Hillary doesn't make a lot of stupid mistakes when she speaks. She just lies, and then turns around and lies some more. I wonder how much the DNC paid Bernie to look like competition for Hillary. I bet they didn't expect that she would do so poorly that he would actually turn out to be real competition. One could only wonder how she would have done against a real viable opposing candidate for the nomination.

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I agree. And, BTW, I am an independent who would have voted for McCain until he picked that Palin woman as his VP. Frankly, she just didn't seem too intelligent. But McCain earned my respect.

I had considered voting for Senator John McCain too as the Republicans were the most helpful with my 224 613 Project and Joe Biden probably wrote me the stupidest response I received back in 1991 when he was Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee. I had no contact with Barack Obama that I can recall with the 224 613 Project until much later and that would have been while trying to explain to Obama Care people my situation.

Then Sarah Palin started making rather stupid comments on the campaign trail and I worried about her becoming President at some point. I still fret about Joe Biden becoming President but that window is closing fast.

I like what Donald Trump has done with shaking up both the Republican and Democratic political establishment but he has yet to offer any practical policies and I do worry about trusting the man if he gets into the most powerful political office in the world. We very much need checks-and-balances now after Barack Obama's heavy use of Executive Privilege and it seems that Donald Trump would be even worse with not following the mandates of the US Constitution.

I will have to see what kind of performances the eventual candidates deliver in the various Presidential debates to see whom I will vote for in November of 2016. If Donald Trump is one of these and has offered mature policies for this country then I MIGHT vote for him. It really depends on how realistic the policies offered are by the various candidates and how much these fit in with the US Constitution and the values that are expressed by the Founding Fathers. They did fear demagogues quite a bit and rightly so.

I do not find much of what Bernie Sanders puts out there as remotely going to become reality through the workings of the US Congress. I do not expect the Congress to help very much with his agenda.

Hillary Clinton has done some wonderful work helping the underdogs in the US legal system. Granted you do have to check much of what she says with her previous record and she is a professional politician and a highly skilled lawyer. Congress will just have to do its job as will the media if she becomes President.

I do not believe much of the media has handled President Barack Obama in a suitable manner of examining his policies in a very critical way.

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Yes, Obama doesn't sound stupid, but he does say stupid things. He very intelligently says that he planned to campaign in all 57 states. And it was not his fault that the teleprompter didn't give him any hints as to how to pronounce Corpsman. He did mispronounce it very smartly though.

They all make mistakes. Biden has been ammo for many successful late night comedy shows.

Hillary doesn't make a lot of stupid mistakes when she speaks. She just lies, and then turns around and lies some more. I wonder how much the DNC paid Bernie to look like competition for Hillary. I bet they didn't expect that she would do so poorly that he would actually turn out to be real competition. One could only wonder how she would have done against a real viable opposing candidate for the nomination.

The only way to accept the above is to view it as tongue in cheek sarcasm.

Obama has a small army that does nothing but go around cleaning up after him. If he says something that might not play well they immediately go into action working with the puppet media explaining that is not what he said or not what he meant. And the supporting bobble heads continue to nod acceptance and adoration.

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The only way to accept the above is to view it as tongue in cheek sarcasm.

Obama has a small army that does nothing but go around cleaning up after him. If he says something that might not play well they immediately go into action working with the puppet media explaining that is not what he said or not what he meant. And the supporting bobble heads continue to nod acceptance and adoration.
How do you know that?

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How do you know that?

It's called logical thinking. Something in short supply in the liberal sector. Common sense on the left seems also to be scarce. How do I know that? It's obvious. No one has to give me talking points. I don't need the government, the government needs me. A new concept to the left, that is totally dependent on the gov nanny.

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It's called logical thinking. Something in short supply in the liberal sector. Common sense on the left seems also to be scarce. How do I know that? It's obvious. No one has to give me talking points. I don't need the government, the government needs me. A new concept to the left, that is totally dependent on the gov nanny.
That's exactly what I thought.

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What about facts? research, understanding, analysis
My children believed me when I told them to challenge people. To ask questions. To be open minded and put yourself in the shoes of others.
That's how you grow.
It's worked for me and is working for them.

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What about facts? research, understanding, analysis
My children believed me when I told them to challenge people. To ask questions. To be open minded and put yourself in the shoes of others.
That's how you grow.
It's worked for me and is working for them.

A foreign concept to the left.

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I'm watching this from the beginning and now Obama is answering the student's questions.

I don't know why people vote for Trump. But it would be very revealing to see how Trump would answer the same questions.

Could he answer any of their questions? Could he stay on topic or would he switch directions as he does in the many interviews I have seen.

Most of the media is on Trump. And I understand. He is interesting. And he has only been in Politics a few months. We need to be sure he is intelligent enough in a wide variety of subjects.

He is an expert in building. He did think out the wall. It just didn't pop out of his head. But when asked how much it would cost his first answer was that he could build it for 40% less then the government could and then the price went from $4 billion and has kept going up every time he was asked. His wall, his idea, his building expertise was not thought out enough to know how much it would even cost.

How is that possible and excusable? Didn't he expect to be asked on the first day how much it will cost?

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A foreign concept to the left.
You would not say that if you knew who wrote it. If what you read is also your opinion then I have hope.

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I'm watching this from the beginning and now Obama is answering the student's questions.

I don't know why people vote for Trump. But it would be very revealing to see how Trump would answer the same questions.

Could he answer any of their questions? Could he stay on topic or would he switch directions as he does in the many interviews I have seen.

Most of the media is on Trump. And I understand. He is interesting. And he has only been in Politics a few months. We need to be sure he is intelligent enough in a wide variety of subjects.

He is an expert in building. He did think out the wall. It just didn't pop out of his head. But when asked how much it would cost his first answer was that he could build it for 40% less then the government could and then the price went from $4 billion and has kept going up every time he was asked. His wall, his idea, his building expertise was not thought out enough to know how much it would even cost.

How is that possible and excusable? Didn't he expect to be asked on the first day how much it will cost?

You are making fun of a business man who is just practicing how to BS the people like a typical crony politician.

You know the ones that have obviously got you snookered into thinking they EVER get it right.

With their handicap the absence of knowledge or truth the incumbent politician will always lie. Hence whatever they say is ALWAYS a lie.

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The socialist in chief has a lot of ignorant left fooled. He talks a lot, mostly to hear himself talk. Even his wife hates to listen to him and makes faces when he talks. Even if I don't like Trump, at least he has a record of doing the things he says he plans to do. Obama has a record of failure and has lowered our standing in the world. Other countries laugh at him and his weakness.

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I had considered voting for Senator John McCain too as the Republicans were the most helpful with my 224 613 Project and Joe Biden probably wrote me the stupidest response I received back in 1991 when he was Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee. I had no contact with Barack Obama that I can recall with the 224 613 Project until much later and that would have been while trying to explain to Obama Care people my situation.

Then Sarah Palin started making rather stupid comments on the campaign trail and I worried about her becoming President at some point. I still fret about Joe Biden becoming President but that window is closing fast.

I like what Donald Trump has done with shaking up both the Republican and Democratic political establishment but he has yet to offer any practical policies and I do worry about trusting the man if he gets into the most powerful political office in the world. We very much need checks-and-balances now after Barack Obama's heavy use of Executive Privilege and it seems that Donald Trump would be even worse with not following the mandates of the US Constitution.

I will have to see what kind of performances the eventual candidates deliver in the various Presidential debates to see whom I will vote for in November of 2016. If Donald Trump is one of these and has offered mature policies for this country then I MIGHT vote for him. It really depends on how realistic the policies offered are by the various candidates and how much these fit in with the US Constitution and the values that are expressed by the Founding Fathers. They did fear demagogues quite a bit and rightly so.

I do not find much of what Bernie Sanders puts out there as remotely going to become reality through the workings of the US Congress. I do not expect the Congress to help very much with his agenda.

Hillary Clinton has done some wonderful work helping the underdogs in the US legal system. Granted you do have to check much of what she says with her previous record and she is a professional politician and a highly skilled lawyer. Congress will just have to do its job as will the media if she becomes President.

I do not believe much of the media has handled President Barack Obama in a suitable manner of examining his policies in a very critical way.
Thank-you for joining the conversation. I respect you opinions. I have for quite awhile.

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You are making fun of a business man who is just practicing how to BS the people like a typical crony politician.

You know the ones that have obviously got you snookered into thinking they EVER get it right.

With their handicap the absence of knowledge or truth the incumbent politician will always lie. Hence whatever they say is ALWAYS a lie.
A businessman in the construction business who proposes building a wall but doesn't take the time to estimate the cost.

I could understand if Ben Carson didn't know how much a wall would cost. I can understand if Trump does not understand brain surgery.

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A businessman in the construction business who proposes building a wall but doesn't take the time to estimate the cost.

I could understand if Ben Carson didn't know how much a wall would cost. I can understand if Trump does not understand brain surgery.

It is you that has no concept of how to construct a wall. Don't blame Trump for not explaining to you something that you probably would not understand anyway. Folks either want border security or the don't. Please don't give the reason as "it can't be done" or "it will cost too much" Neither liberals or conservatives have worried about the cost of anything in the past. The both just continue to spend, regardless of the debt incurred.

Personally, I would have no problem with arming the border with snipers and allowing them to fire at any invaders. Of course, I would post Trespassing signs first.

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It is you that has no concept of how to construct a wall. Don't blame Trump for not explaining to you something that you probably would not understand anyway. Folks either want border security or the don't. Please don't give the reason as "it can't be done" or "it will cost too much" Neither liberals or conservatives have worried about the cost of anything in the past. The both just continue to spend, regardless of the debt incurred.

Personally, I would have no problem with arming the border with snipers and allowing them to fire at any invaders. Of course, I would post Trespassing signs first.You tell me how high it will be and how much will it cost. I'll understand.

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You tell me how high it will be and how much will it cost. I'll understand.

Why do you need to understand? Did you question Kennedy when he said he wanted to put a man on the moon? Did you ask him how he could do such a ridiculous thing? Did you ask for details? How much fuel, what kind of guidance system, etc? Why make excuses? If you want the illegal Aliens to take American jobs, break the law and abuse our system, then just admit it. You don't need to hide it under the guise of "explain how he is going to build a way or I don't believe he can do it."

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Why do you need to understand? Did you question Kennedy when he said he wanted to put a man on the moon? Did you ask him how he could do such a ridiculous thing? Did you ask for details? How much fuel, what kind of guidance system, etc? Why make excuses? If you want the illegal Aliens to take American jobs, break the law and abuse our system, then just admit it. You don't need to hide it under the guise of "explain how he is going to build a way or I don't believe he can do it."

Excellent response!!:BigApplause:

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Excellent response!!:BigApplause:
You're running a little late today.

Trump was asked "How high will the wall be." He said "30 feet". The next question was "Couldn't someone just use a 30 foot ladder?" He said "Yes, but how would they get down on the other side. Then he added. I suppose they could use a rope."

He certainly gave this a lot of thought. It's not that hard to understand. It's not going to the moon. Even Kennedy knew how a ladder worked 50 years ago.

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good reading
Project Apollo: A Retrospective Analysis (http://history.nasa.gov/Apollomon/Apollo.html)

You might learn something.

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You're running a little late today.

Trump was asked "How high will the wall be." He said "30 feet". The next question was "Couldn't someone just use a 30 foot ladder?" He said "Yes, but how would they get down on the other side. Then he added. I suppose they could use a rope."

He certainly gave this a lot of thought. It's not that hard to understand. It's not going to the moon. Even Kennedy knew how a ladder worked 50 years ago.

I suppose you are right. We should probably take down those fences around the White House, because someone is always getting over them. Darn, I shouldn't worry about locking my home at night, because it's easy to break into a house. Don't need a rope either.

You are a retard. Go tell a relative that I said to smack you in the back of the head. You need a good attitude adjustment. I've got a ball-peen hammer that will work just fine.

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Ya know what is so funny about al this wall BS?

If the east germans could throw one up in a matter of days and shut down people going in or out immediately, why do some think it is such a big :censored:
deal to put up a wall.

And the rest who harp about well how about just using a ladder?
How :censored: stupid is that?

Do you think if there is a wall we might also begin enforcing that nobody goes over the all. How? Well let us just let each person fantacize their own method.

They use walls around prisons and that seems to work pretty well. Yeah we all know there is a break out from time to time. Try to focus on the aspect of enforcement. Nobody gets over the wall.

We know it is a foreign notion to some to enforce the laws and the rules.

You have to concede there comes a time when permissive behavior just doesn't cut it. Enforce the laws that are on the books.

Nobody gets over the wall. It is so easy.

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Ya know what is so funny about al this wall BS?

If the east germans could throw one up in a matter of days and shut down people going in or out immediately, why do some think it is such a big :censored:
deal to put up a wall.

And the rest who harp about well how about just using a ladder?
How :censored: stupid is that?

Do you think if there is a wall we might also begin enforcing that nobody goes over the all. How? Well let us just let each person fantacize their own method.

They use walls around prisons and that seems to work pretty well. Yeah we all know there is a break out from time to time. Try to focus on the aspect of enforcement. Nobody gets over the wall.

We know it is a foreign notion to some to enforce the laws and the rules.

You have to concede there comes a time when permissive behavior just doesn't cut it. Enforce the laws that are on the books.

Nobody gets over the wall. It is so easy.

Speaking to the libtard choir. No matter what you say, it won't be right unless one of their drone leaders parrot it.

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Why [do] people vote for Trump?
I have always felt it had something to do with the way he answers questions, his sentence structure and choice of words. I don't remember any other politician talking the way he talks.
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Why [do] people vote for Trump?
I have always felt it had something to do with the way he answers questions, his sentence structure and choice of words. I don't remember any other politician talking the way he talks.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFo_BV-UzI&list=RDa5wBY6D7V34&index=14

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People vote for Trump either because they're angry white men, or uneducated and don't know any better.

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People vote for Trump either because they're angry white men, or uneducated and don't know any better.

So, you are going to vote for him? Which are you, angry white, uneducated or both?

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dRumpf.

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So, you are going to vote for him? Which are you, angry white, uneducated or both?

I'm a woman and will vote for Hillary, natch.

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I'm a woman and will vote for Hillary, natch.

Of course you will, and you call men sexist. ANY woman is better than a man...right?

Illogical, emotional creatures, should have never given you the vote. Things were pretty good until EVERYONE got a vote...then it all went to crap. You like voting yourselves goodies.

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I'm a woman and will vote for Hillary, natch.

Natch?

If it has to be a woman because all that matters is gender...it is obvious that is all that matters.

Gender first even though she is a felon, liar, phony, two faced, self centered crony politics as usual Obama lover!!

How truly sad.

If you and others like you are gender driven, why did you not find a suitable worthy candidate?

Rhetorical commentary does not require answers!

Gender driven no matter what.......sigh!

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I'm voting for Hillary because she is the most intelligent and has the most experience. Plus, she brings Bill along, so its two for the price of one. Her accomplishments are many and have been listed previously on this forum. I'm not voting for Trump because he is a racist pig who is also demeaning to women, and he has zero political experience. His rhetoric about Muslims could start World War III. The man is a menace. No woman with any self respect would vote for that man who has criticized a woman reporter for asking tough questions saying she is "menstruating"; criticized Carly Fiorina's appearance; calling other women bimbo, dog, fat pig; a woman who is flat chested is really hard to be a "ten"; who said - "women, you have to treat 'em like $hit";

This is how Donald Trump talks about our mothers, our sisters, our daughters. And you wonder why women vote for Hillary?

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Of course you will, and you call men sexist. ANY woman is better than a man...right?

Illogical, emotional creatures, should have never given you the vote. Things were pretty good until EVERYONE got a vote...then it all went to crap. You like voting yourselves goodies.

I have to laugh when I read a post like this. Of course you would assume a woman would vote for Hillary simply because Hillary is a woman. It just wouldn't occur to you that someone might view Hillary as more experienced and a better choice based on this issues. You are a perfect example of an illogical, sexist, angry person that would vote for someone like Trump.

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I have to laugh when I read a post like this. Of course you would assume a woman would vote for Hillary simply because Hillary is a woman. It just wouldn't occur to you that someone might view Hillary as more experienced and a better choice based on this issues. You are a perfect example of an illogical, sexist, angry person that would vote for someone like Trump.

I wouldn't vote for him either.

There ARE other choices, you're NOT limited to the two shills.

They have you hopelessly brainwashed...

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I have to laugh when I read a post like this. Of course you would assume a woman would vote for Hillary simply because Hillary is a woman. It just wouldn't occur to you that someone might view Hillary as more experienced and a better choice based on this issues. You are a perfect example of an illogical, sexist, angry person that would vote for someone like Trump.

That's the point you just made for him. You are voting for her because she is a woman. The rest of it is garbage, so you whole "experienced and better choice" is just patently false. It has already been proven that she has done NOTHING in the last 20 years to warrant a second look at her. She passed three bills in the Senate, that were NOTHING. She was the president's wife. That means Obummer's children are qualified. She did nothing as Secstate but travel and allow her people to die without attempting to rescue them, making up lies to cover her @ss when they were killed. She has lied about putting America in harms way by mishandling classified information, and was instrumental in criminalizing others that worked for her, including the IT guy that maintained her system that had total access to everything on it. The Clintons are also being investigated by IRS for tax fraud.

Yep, you made a real logical choice. And you wonder why he said women shouldn't be allowed to vote. Instead of telling everyone that you are a moron, you should have just kept it quiet and voted for her if you wished. Hide your stupidity from the public, like Hillary attempts to do.

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I wouldn't vote for him either.

There ARE other choices, you're NOT limited to the two shills.

They have you hopelessly brainwashed...

Yes, you can always write in Donald Duck or Daffy. Waste your vote, and make a meaningless gesture. Why bother going to the polls and standing in line if you wish to waste your time? But, it is yours to waste. I would rather have some chance at making the choice between two than waste it by a meaningless vote. One of two will be elected and I would rather help determine the best of the two, than to make a feel good act, that no one will ever notice. One that if you tell anyone, they will just politely shake their head and think "what a moron!"

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I'm voting for Hillary because she is the most intelligent and has the most experience. Plus, she brings Bill along, so its two for the price of one. Her accomplishments are many and have been listed previously on this forum. I'm not voting for Trump because he is a racist pig who is also demeaning to women, and he has zero political experience. His rhetoric about Muslims could start World War III. The man is a menace. No woman with any self respect would vote for that man who has criticized a woman reporter for asking tough questions saying she is "menstruating"; criticized Carly Fiorina's appearance; calling other women bimbo, dog, fat pig; a woman who is flat chested is really hard to be a "ten"; who said - "women, you have to treat 'em like $hit";

This is how Donald Trump talks about our mothers, our sisters, our daughters. And you wonder why women vote for Hillary?

I may not like what he stupidly says, but even as bad as that is, he is better than the very UNTRUSTWORTHY Clinton. He has not killed anyone that we know of. He loves his country and the military. Hillary hates the military and wants to be their commander. She is a scumbag and she is your only choice besides the man that says some UN-PC remarks. Not much of a choice, but he is probably the only choice you will have. Elect a criminal traitor to the country's highest position, or endure four years of someone that you don't approve of his language. I bet you had no problem with Biden's language.

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I'm voting for Hillary because she is the most intelligent and has the most experience. Plus, she brings Bill along, so its two for the price of one. Her accomplishments are many and have been listed previously on this forum. I'm not voting for Trump because he is a racist pig who is also demeaning to women, and he has zero political experience. His rhetoric about Muslims could start World War III. The man is a menace. No woman with any self respect would vote for that man who has criticized a woman reporter for asking tough questions saying she is "menstruating"; criticized Carly Fiorina's appearance; calling other women bimbo, dog, fat pig; a woman who is flat chested is really hard to be a "ten"; who said - "women, you have to treat 'em like $hit";

This is how Donald Trump talks about our mothers, our sisters, our daughters. And you wonder why women vote for Hillary?

You have completely exposed in the first sentence major thinking flaws and gullability overload.

The rest is fine because you are entitled to your opinion of who said what or intended what as educated by the media.

But that first sentence is the Clintonesque BS line!!!

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That's the point you just made for him. You are voting for her because she is a woman. The rest of it is garbage, so you whole "experienced and better choice" is just patently false. It has already been proven that she has done NOTHING in the last 20 years to warrant a second look at her. She passed three bills in the Senate, that were NOTHING. She was the president's wife. That means Obummer's children are qualified. She did nothing as Secstate but travel and allow her people to die without attempting to rescue them, making up lies to cover her @ss when they were killed. She has lied about putting America in harms way by mishandling classified information, and was instrumental in criminalizing others that worked for her, including the IT guy that maintained her system that had total access to everything on it. The Clintons are also being investigated by IRS for tax fraud.

Yep, you made a real logical choice. And you wonder why he said women shouldn't be allowed to vote. Instead of telling everyone that you are a moron, you should have just kept it quiet and voted for her if you wished. Hide your stupidity from the public, like Hillary attempts to do.
You're all wrong.

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You're all wrong.

And you are all stupid. Don't come on here and accuse someone of being wrong unless you have something to contribute.

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Yes, you can always write in Donald Duck or Daffy. Waste your vote, and make a meaningless gesture. Why bother going to the polls and standing in line if you wish to waste your time? But, it is yours to waste. I would rather have some chance at making the choice between two than waste it by a meaningless vote. One of two will be elected and I would rather help determine the best of the two, than to make a feel good act, that no one will ever notice. One that if you tell anyone, they will just politely shake their head and think "what a moron!"

Why would I waste my time writing in Donald Duck when there is a real candidate I can vote for? I'll vote Libertarian. If everyone who felt like me did too, we'd have the first "not bought and paid for liar" in a LONG time. My vote isn't wasted my dear. Yours is. You will dutifully follow orders and "elect" another bought and paid for liar. Go ahead, waste your vote on the "lesser of two evils" while I vote for someone I'd actually like to have elected.

You think you have a CHOICE? Like the choice where mom said broccoli or Brussels sprouts? How about joining me and voting for pizza?

You're believing their "us or them" BS again...how many time have you voted? How many times have you been suckered? I may be a moron but you're insane thinking voting for ANOTHER of the crooks will change anything. It's the parties not the man. One person can't change such a huge corrupt beast. The president is the thieves "talking head", that's all. They lie for the corporations and they're rewarded with a life or royalty.

Morons vote for the lesser of two evils when real choices are available.

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Why would I waste my time writing in Donald Duck when there is a real candidate I can vote for? I'll vote Libertarian. If everyone who felt like me did too, we'd have the first "not bought and paid for liar" in a LONG time. My vote isn't wasted my dear. Yours is. You will dutifully follow orders and "elect" another bought and paid for liar. Go ahead, waste your vote on the "lesser of two evils" while I vote for someone I'd actually like to have elected.

You think you have a CHOICE? Like the choice where mom said broccoli or Brussels sprouts? How about joining me and voting for pizza?

You're believing their "us or them" BS again...how many time have you voted? How many times have you been suckered? I may be a moron but you're insane thinking voting for ANOTHER of the crooks will change anything. It's the parties not the man. One person can't change such a huge corrupt beast. The president is the thieves "talking head", that's all. They lie for the corporations and they're rewarded with a life or royalty.

Morons vote for the lesser of two evils when real choices are available.

That's pretty funny. You waste your vote for someone that no one knows and has no more chance of being elected than Mickey Mouse and you have the audacity of calling someone else a moron. Come back and talk to us once your acid trip finishes up.

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That's pretty funny. You waste your vote for someone that no one knows and has no more chance of being elected than Mickey Mouse and you have the audacity of calling someone else a moron. Come back and talk to us once your acid trip finishes up.

After 7 plus years it is unfortunately a steady state condition of the mind with or without the drugs.

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Why would I waste my time writing in Donald Duck when there is a real candidate I can vote for? I'll vote Libertarian. If everyone who felt like me did too, we'd have the first "not bought and paid for liar" in a LONG time. My vote isn't wasted my dear. Yours is. You will dutifully follow orders and "elect" another bought and paid for liar. Go ahead, waste your vote on the "lesser of two evils" while I vote for someone I'd actually like to have elected.

You think you have a CHOICE? Like the choice where mom said broccoli or Brussels sprouts? How about joining me and voting for pizza?

You're believing their "us or them" BS again...how many time have you voted? How many times have you been suckered? I may be a moron but you're insane thinking voting for ANOTHER of the crooks will change anything. It's the parties not the man. One person can't change such a huge corrupt beast. The president is the thieves "talking head", that's all. They lie for the corporations and they're rewarded with a life or royalty.

Morons vote for the lesser of two evils when real choices are available.

Why would anyone even continue to post on this thread? Unless you are a diehard Trump fan you're going to be attacked no matter who you vote for or say you will vote for. And of course you're stupid and dumb or any other variety of insults if you don't agree with their Conservative party line. We can spout the facts, we can list Hillary's accomplishments are sanders qualifications and it just does no good. I don't know if they can't read and comprehend or they just don't accept any truth as fact unless it comes from FOXNews, who knows. People have their minds cast in stone and this political form is getting to be a waste of time. I do stand by my previous statement that you are a bunch of angry old man for pining away for the old days and you just don't recognize that that's never going to happen. I really feel sorry for you because you're not gonna be happy after the upcoming election. But I guess that's your lifestyle, you like to sit around and complain, so at least you'll stay occupied.

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That's the point you just made for him. You are voting for her because she is a woman. The rest of it is garbage, so you whole "experienced and better choice" is just patently false. It has already been proven that she has done NOTHING in the last 20 years to warrant a second look at her. She passed three bills in the Senate, that were NOTHING. She was the president's wife. That means Obummer's children are qualified. She did nothing as Secstate but travel and allow her people to die without attempting to rescue them, making up lies to cover her @ss when they were killed. She has lied about putting America in harms way by mishandling classified information, and was instrumental in criminalizing others that worked for her, including the IT guy that maintained her system that had total access to everything on it. The Clintons are also being investigated by IRS for tax fraud.

Yep, you made a real logical choice. And you wonder why he said women shouldn't be allowed to vote. Instead of telling everyone that you are a moron, you should have just kept it quiet and voted for her if you wished. Hide your stupidity from the public, like Hillary attempts to do.

You should really refrain from posting. You completely lack logic, you present nothing factual just your stupid opinions that you can't back up. You would be smart to hide your stupidity from the public but we all know that isn't going to happen. We all think you're an idiot and you don't recognize it. Early senility or is it just you are totally intimidated by intelligent women and that is throwing you off your game? Take your toys and go home, loser.

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You should really refrain from posting. You completely lack logic, you present nothing factual just your stupid opinions that you can't back up. You would be smart to hide your stupidity from the public but we all know that isn't going to happen. We all think you're an idiot and you don't recognize it. Early senility or is it just you are totally intimidated by intelligent women and that is throwing you off your game? Take your toys and go home, loser.

Other than attacking because you know that the poster was correct, what did you have to post that contributed to the thread? You just voiced YOUR "STUPID OPINION" and attempt to promote a stupid, abusive and nasty old woman for president that does not deserve to clean toilets in the White House on work release from the pen. And it has nothing to do with her being a woman, at least until you made it so. It has to do with her being a criminal that is the worst possible candidate for the most important position in the world.

By the way, this forum IS for opinions. If you want facts, do your own work and use your Google instead of relying on someone else's efforts. You sound like the typical liberal that is dependent on everyone else. What happened, are you angry because the girls at the rec center wouldn't listen to your liberal blather, when they were attempting to play MahJong? :cryin2:

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Do you think Trump really wants to be president? Do you think he thought he could win?
Now he's not going to support Cruz if Cruz wins? Can Trump still run as an independent now? I don't know the rules.
He is unpredictable.
His former super pac director has a story to tell.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/former-trump-super-pac-director-1395626161225782.html

Off Topic--I wonder if Sanders thought Sanders could win?

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Stephanie Cegielski Was Not Donald Trump's 'Top Strategist' : snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/stephanie-cegielski-letter-trump/)

She got her 15 minutes of fame.

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I really thought that Trump entered the game, just to take some of the heat off the other candidates. I never in a million years thought he would get this far, or that he would even consider wasting his time being a government employee. He fooled me. I did not vote for him in the primary, and still hope he will drop out or fail to get the nomination. He is not diplomatic or refined enough for the position. Cruz has surprised me also, because he has turned into a petulant crybaby. Now I can understand why no one likes him in congress, not even his own party members. That leaves Kasich. He is a likeable enough guy, and knows how the system works. I haven't heard any pertinent dirt on him by now, so he must be fairly untouched. The problem with him is that he is way too moderate. Moderate to the point that he is almost liberal. He would make a good Democrat from about 20 years ago or so, but not a very conservative Republican. I do believe he could be instrumental in getting us back on track to a balanced budget, but on social issues, he is way too liberal. But, he is probably the best chance our party has of straightening out the problems of the past 8 years.

I am not even going to mention Hillary or Sanders, because they are both scum and shouldn't even be allowed in D.C. let alone a political position.

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Anderson Cooper shuts down Donald Trump: (http://www.salon.com/2016/03/30/anderson_cooper_shuts_down_donald_trump_with_all_d ue_respect_he_started_it_is_the_argument_of_a_five _year_old/)

This is the person who may be in charge of launching a nuclear attack or retaliating under pressure. Do you want to put the safety of your children and grandchildren in his hands?

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Anderson Cooper shuts down Donald Trump: (http://www.salon.com/2016/03/30/anderson_cooper_shuts_down_donald_trump_with_all_d ue_respect_he_started_it_is_the_argument_of_a_five _year_old/)

This is the person who may be in charge of launching a nuclear attack or retaliating under pressure. Do you want to put the safety of your children and grandchildren in his hands?

Well, look who is in charge right now. A petulant wannabe entertainer with a chip on his shoulder and racial bias. And you worry about Trump?

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Well, look who is in charge right now. A petulant wannabe entertainer with a chip on his shoulder and racial bias. And you worry about Trump?
I gave you a link that supported my argument.

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I gave you a link that supported my argument.

That supported what? That a liberal media can can inject their opinion in an interview? Why don't you quote something from Hillary's lies or Sander's idiotic comments. And you think they would make good presidents? Never mind answering, because I know your answer. We don't agree, but I won't make up stuff out of little comments. I can use real and important comments, not Anderson Cooper's injected opinions.

Bernie's lifestyle of his first 40 years of non-full-time employment and perverted writing. His promoting communism and honeymoon in the Soviet Union.

Hillary's famouse quote of "What difference does it make." regarding how the victims of Benghazi died, after she lied about the video being the cause.

Those are real details, not an opinion from a liberal media commentator.

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Bernie's lifestyle of his first 40 years of non-full-time employment and perverted writing. His promoting communism and honeymoon in the Soviet Union.



People DO change. Are you the same person you were 40 years ago? The same beliefs? Anything you did 40 years ago you'd rather keep in the closet? Those without stones and all...

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People DO change. Are you the same person you were 40 years ago? The same beliefs? Anything you did 40 years ago you'd rather keep in the closet? Those without stones and all...

Did Bernie change? Did you not see or hear his comment on radio recently regarding a young woman in his audience? He commented on her body and about his inability to keep his eyes off of it and that he was taking in every detail. So, did he change?

You liberals were all over Romney when someone brought up ONE incident from when he was in school and may have been involved in hazing, where they shaved a guy's head. WOW, what a story and look at how you liberals ran with it.

No, Bernie is still the same sleazeball he was 40 years ago. Just older and probably dependent on chemicals to aid his depravity.

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Well, look who is in charge right now. A petulant wannabe entertainer with a chip on his shoulder and racial bias. And you worry about Trump?

Pres. Obama (your President) has taken this country out of the recession brought on by Bush. The stock market is doing great. Your 401k is worth much more than 8 years ago.

It is the angry old Tea Bags that just do not like their country beingled by a black President.

They really are going to be unhappy and even angrier when they realize the next President will be either Sanders or Clinton. :wave:

Get over it. You old white men had your day. Now, get out of the way and make way for progress.

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Great post. Not sure all the angry old white men will appreciate it though. Sometimes the truth hurts.

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Pres. Obama (your President) has taken this country out of the recession brought on by Bush. The stock market is doing great. Your 401k is worth much more than 8 years ago.

It is the angry old Tea Bags that just do not like their country beingled by a black President.

They really are going to be unhappy and even angrier when they realize the next President will be either Sanders or Clinton. :wave:

Get over it. You old white men had your day. Now, get out of the way and make way for progress.Not for nothing, but if you read these threads you start to wonder how in the world Obama was elected.........twice.
They will tell you, it's not the man or what he stands for it's his policy they disagree with. And when you ask, name an African American politician you admire, and why do you admire him, I don't think there will be an answer.
I hope I'm wrong.

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Pres. Obama (your President) has taken this country out of the recession brought on by Bush. The stock market is doing great. Your 401k is worth much more than 8 years ago.

It is the angry old Tea Bags that just do not like their country beingled by a black President.

They really are going to be unhappy and even angrier when they realize the next President will be either Sanders or Clinton. :wave:

Get over it. You old white men had your day. Now, get out of the way and make way for progress.

:1rotfl:...:1rotfl:...:1rotfl:.....:1rotfl:

45 million still on food stamps....a record
highest poverty level in decades
Highest black unemployment in many years
Middle class income cut
lowest GDP with no growth
DOUBLED national debt

And you want to blame it on our perception of Obama being black? Are you serious?? :1rotfl:....:1rotfl:....:1rotfl:

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Great post. Not sure all the angry old white men will appreciate it though. Sometimes the truth hurts.

Too bad you find a need to reply to your own posts. Anyway..........

Some day, when you grow up, you too will be an angry old white man or woman. I doubt you are a woman, because most of the ones I know are much more brighter than you.

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:1rotfl:...:1rotfl:...:1rotfl:.....:1rotfl:

45 million still on food stamps....a record
highest poverty level in decades
Highest black unemployment in many years
Middle class income cut
lowest GDP with no growth
DOUBLED national debt

And you want to blame it on our perception of Obama being black? Are you serious?? :1rotfl:....:1rotfl:....:1rotfl:
How did you draw that conclusion?

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Do you think that Bernie's wife fantasizes about being raped by three men?

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How did you draw that conclusion?

Don't your read what is being replied to?

It is the angry old Tea Bags that just do not like their country beingled by a black President.

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Don't your read what is being replied to?
You're right. The post did identify the Tea Bags as racist.
And you want to blame it on our perception of Obama being black?

How can a person have a perception of being black?
What does that mean?

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You're right. The post did identify the Tea Bags as racist.
And you want to blame it on our perception of Obama being black?

How can a person have a perception of being black?
What does that mean?

If you can't understand the statement, then ask a teacher. I understand that they give participation awards out now instead of achievement awards. Go for it. Wow, did this go past the limits of your liberal talking points that you were given? I realize that self-reliance is not a liberal trait, but really???

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If you can't understand the statement, then ask a teacher. I understand that they give participation awards out now instead of achievement awards. Go for it. Wow, did this go past the limits of your liberal talking points that you were given? I realize that self-reliance is not a liberal trait, but really???
Remember the clerk that claimed she was black but was actually white? Many people had the perception that she was black. She was not.

Do you think it's the same for Obama? Many people have the perception he is black. These are your words, not mine.

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Remember the clerk that claimed she was black but was actually white? Many people had the perception that she was black. She was not.

Do you think it's the same for Obama? Many people have the perception he is black. These are your words, not mine.

You must add that being a non white looking person certainly helps with the perception. The clerk surely did take advantage of not looking white, making herself look black(er), acting black, frequenting black only venues.....sorta generates the end result sought.....being black....perception or otherwise.

And no matter how you stir the pot...Obama is black. He was/is still a black activist playing the race card (black) at every possible turn. No perception BS needed in his case....he is black.

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Remember the clerk that claimed she was black but was actually white? Many people had the perception that she was black. She was not.

Do you think it's the same for Obama? Many people have the perception he is black. These are your words, not mine.

Once again, I believe you have things a bit skewed The girl that said she was black and wasn't, worked for the NAACP.

I'll let you think about it a while. I realize that liberals have a tough time in life and need special consideration and attention. After all, they have no idea that they are disparaging American citizens when they use terms like Tea B..gger. Funny, you would think that the term being more closely associated with those on the liberal side, that they would not use that term loosely.

If you don't understand the comment that you made, and now you need to question the meaning of a reply, perhaps you should take a break from political conversation.

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Former NAACP chapter president Rachel Dolezal claimed to be black.

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I hate to paint with a broad brush but in this case, I will.

Those voting for Trump are either racists or just plain dumb.

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Once again, I believe you have things a bit skewed The girl that said she was black and wasn't, worked for the NAACP.

I'll let you think about it a while. I realize that liberals have a tough time in life and need special consideration and attention. After all, they have no idea that they are disparaging American citizens when they use terms like Tea B..gger. Funny, you would think that the term being more closely associated with those on the liberal side, that they would not use that term loosely.

If you don't understand the comment that you made, and now you need to question the meaning of a reply, perhaps you should take a break from political conversation.

So what's the difference if one is called a Tea ****** or a libitard?

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I hate to paint with a broad brush but in this case, I will.

Those voting for Trump are either racists or just plain dumb.

You said it accurately and simply. Of course, you have to include the Cruz voters in the groupings of being either racists or just plain dumb, too.:wave:

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I hate to paint with a broad brush but in this case, I will.

Those voting for Trump are either racists or just plain dumb.

You said it accurately and simply. Of course, you have to include the Cruz voters in the groupings of being either racists or just plain dumb, too.:wave:

Actually, the idiots are anyone who votes for a D or R. Vote Libertarian, take YOUR rights back.

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You said it accurately and simply. Of course, you have to include the Cruz voters in the groupings of being either racists or just plain dumb, too.:wave:

I feel the same way about Obama voters and Hillary voters, either racists or sexists. I guess everyone has an opinion.

[Guest]

Most recently Trump figured out the election is rigged. The popular vote does not matter as much as the delegates. Did he do any reading before he decided to run?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/13/us/politics/donald-trump-losing-ground-tries-to-blame-the-system.html

[Guest]

Most recently Trump figured out the election is rigged. The popular vote does not matter as much as the delegates. Did he do any reading before he decided to run?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/13/us/politics/donald-trump-losing-ground-tries-to-blame-the-system.html

Wow, I bet he isn't a politician. Who'd a guessed that?

[Guest]

Wow, I bet he isn't a politician. Who'd a guessed that?And since he didn't study political science and doesn't understand how government works you can't blame him. I that how you pick you Doctors?

And that's Why People Vote for Trump

[Guest]

And since he didn't study political science and doesn't understand how government works you can't blame him. Is that how you pick your Doctors?

And that's[B] Why People Vote for Trump

/B]

I pushed send accidently. It should have read:
Is that how you pick your Doctors?

[Guest]

I pushed send accidently. It should have read:
Is that how you pick your Doctors?

Nope, but I don't pick my politicians that way either. I base my vote upon their record. There is no requirement for a politician to have an education. There is a requirement for a doctor to have an education and a license to practice. Apples and oranges. Everyone can be a politician, but not everyone is equipped for the job. Obama is an educated politician, but is not equipped for the job. Meaning, he is not a leader. He has no leadership experience and is inept. It's not his fault, it's those that pushed him into a job that he isn't able to do. He was a poor senator and he is a poor president. It has nothing to do with race or education. He was just not given the qualities needed. In order to be the leader of the Free World, you need to be exceptional, not average or inept. It is a great responsibility, not to be taken lightly.

[Guest]

I used to look at Trump supporters with an open mind. He was on a roll and people enjoyed the ride. But his disastrous week before the Wisconsin primary has tainted my view. I thought he was too street smart to screw himself that badly.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Guest;1212055]Nope, but I don't pick my politicians that way either. I base my vote upon their record. [ /QUOTE]
You can stop here. What is Trumps political record? How has he voted in the past? People are willing to vote for a person that doesn't understand government. I think you believe that's an asset for him.

You want your doctors to be trained professionals, I want the same professionalism in government. He's not running for student council. He can't start watching "How a Bill becomes a Law" before he is leader of the free world.

It's like golfing with someone who never played before and saying, one thing for sure, since they never swung a club they can't have a bad swing.

Why people vote for Trump?

[Guest]

And since he didn't study political science and doesn't understand how government works you can't blame him. I that how you pick you Doctors?

And that's Why People Vote for Trump


Oh, he's not skilled in the CORRUPT system we call the political system? Where the "rules" change depending...

Nope, but I don't pick my politicians that way either. I base my vote upon their record. There is no requirement for a politician to have an education. There is a requirement for a doctor to have an education and a license to practice. Apples and oranges. Everyone can be a politician, but not everyone is equipped for the job. Obama is an educated politician, but is not equipped for the job. Meaning, he is not a leader. He has no leadership experience and is inept. It's not his fault, it's those that pushed him into a job that he isn't able to do. He was a poor senator and he is a poor president. It has nothing to do with race or education. He was just not given the qualities needed. In order to be the leader of the Free World, you need to be exceptional, not average or inept. It is a great responsibility, not to be taken lightly.

The president doesn't decide anything. He's not the "king of the world". We're told he is, but he takes his orders too. Politics really IS theater. It's plans and deception, swaying public opinion, out right lies. For money and power. They get rich telling you what to do. And you play along. What does it cost to support "His Highness"? A whole lot when you drink $400 a bottle wine for dinner.

[Guest]

Oh, he's not skilled in the CORRUPT system we call the political system? Where the "rules" change depending...



The president doesn't decide anything. He's not the "king of the world". We're told he is, but he takes his orders too. Politics really IS theater. It's plans and deception, swaying public opinion, out right lies. For money and power. They get rich telling you what to do. And you play along. What does it cost to support "His Highness"? A whole lot when you drink $400 a bottle wine for dinner.
never a link

[Guest]

never a link

"Part of a tradition observed by previous presidents, including George W. Bush, that disclosure stopped after Obama’s dinner last year for Chinese President Hu Jintao. One of the wines served on Jan. 19, 2011, was a top-rated 2005 Cabernet Sauvignon from Washington state that originally sold for $115 a bottle and went for as much as $399 by the time of the dinner. The price the White House paid per bottle was not made public.

At the next state dinner, on June 7, 2011, for German Chancellor Angela Merkel, the menu made public by the White House didn’t include details on the wines.

“An American wine will be paired with each course,” stated a note at the bottom of the menu released by the White House. So went as well the menu released for the Korean State Dinner honoring President Lee Myung-Bak on Oct. 13, 2011.

Tyler Colman, who writes the Dr. Vino wine blog and teaches at New York University, said in an interview that the shift in menu protocol may reflect political considerations given the sluggish U.S. economy.

“They’re probably sensitive to displays of wealth at a time when the economy is not firing on all cylinders,” said Colman, whose blog had noted the absence of wines on the German state dinner menu the White House released."

Obama (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-03-13/obama-transparency-scaled-back-when-it-comes-to-wine-list-at-state-dinner)

[Guest]

"Part of a tradition observed by previous presidents, including George W. Bush, that disclosure stopped after Obama’s dinner last year for Chinese President Hu Jintao. One of the wines served on Jan. 19, 2011, was a top-rated 2005 Cabernet Sauvignon from Washington state that originally sold for $115 a bottle and went for as much as $399 by the time of the dinner. The price the White House paid per bottle was not made public.

At the next state dinner, on June 7, 2011, for German Chancellor Angela Merkel, the menu made public by the White House didn’t include details on the wines.

“An American wine will be paired with each course,” stated a note at the bottom of the menu released by the White House. So went as well the menu released for the Korean State Dinner honoring President Lee Myung-Bak on Oct. 13, 2011.

Tyler Colman, who writes the Dr. Vino wine blog and teaches at New York University, said in an interview that the shift in menu protocol may reflect political considerations given the sluggish U.S. economy.

“They’re probably sensitive to displays of wealth at a time when the economy is not firing on all cylinders,” said Colman, whose blog had noted the absence of wines on the German state dinner menu the White House released."

Obama (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-03-13/obama-transparency-scaled-back-when-it-comes-to-wine-list-at-state-dinner)

"The president doesn't decide anything. He's not the "king of the world". We're told he is, but he takes his orders too. Politics really IS theater. It's plans and deception, swaying public opinion, out right lies."

This is the meat of your problem that needs support. This is what needs support. Who cares what his wine bill is? Sounds like you got wealth envy. I hear it's a terrible thing.

[Guest]

This is the meat of your problem that needs support. This is what needs support. Who cares what his wine bill is? Sounds like you got wealth envy. I hear it's a terrible thing.

I care if it's my tax dollars paying for it.

I have "I'm tired of footing the bill for the extravagances of my "elected officials". It's not envy, it's being tired of working for someone else's luxury. He doesn't need to be drinking $400 a bottle wine. They stopped listing the wines, gee how convenient. You have no problem working so someone else can drink $400 a bottle wine you paid for? I do. How about a $4,000 bottle? Would that concern you? How about $40,000? He can drink $40 wine or he can buy it himself.

[Guest]

I care if it's my tax dollars paying for it.

I have "I'm tired of footing the bill for the extravagances of my "elected officials". It's not envy, it's being tired of working for someone else's luxury. He doesn't need to be drinking $400 a bottle wine. They stopped listing the wines, gee how convenient. You have no problem working so someone else can drink $400 a bottle wine you paid for? I do. How about a $4,000 bottle? Would that concern you? How about $40,000? He can drink $40 wine or he can buy it himself.What's the President's yearly salary? How much did the guy win at the Master? What does a teacher make starting salary in Florida, How much did the Walton's money earn the last 3 months? The wealth distribution is crazy and difficult to understand.
I did reverse my position on equal pay for women this morning. So I'm open minded. I posted a link and that changed my mind.

I'll think about this too.

[Guest]

What's the President's yearly salary? How much did the guy win at the Master? What does a teacher make starting salary in Florida, How much did the Walton's money earn the last 3 months? The wealth distribution is crazy and difficult to understand.
I did reverse my position on equal pay for women this morning. So I'm open minded. I posted a link and that changed my mind.

I'll think about this too.

He's a "public servant", an elected official, he works for us, he is paid by us, he actively volunteered for the position, other presidents didn't take advantage of the "perks".

He and his family cost US taxpayers $1.4 billion a year. I vote we cut it back a tad, how about you?

Taxpayers spent $1.4 billion on Obama family last year | The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/26/taxpayers-spent-1-4-billion-on-obama-family-last-year-perks-questioned-in-new-book/)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/bachmanns-claim-that-barack-obama-has-a-14-billion-a-year-presidency/2013/03/17/bb5f3ea2-8f40-11e2-bdea-e32ad90da239_blog.html

Obama family 'costs taxpayers $1.4BILLION per year' | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210323/Obama-family-costs-taxpayers-1-4BILLION-year.html)

[Guest]

I care if it's my tax dollars paying for it.

I have "I'm tired of footing the bill for the extravagances of my "elected officials". It's not envy, it's being tired of working for someone else's luxury. He doesn't need to be drinking $400 a bottle wine. They stopped listing the wines, gee how convenient. You have no problem working so someone else can drink $400 a bottle wine you paid for? I do. How about a $4,000 bottle? Would that concern you? How about $40,000? He can drink $40 wine or he can buy it himself.

Why can't Michelle make their own wine out of the White House garden? :wine:

[Guest]

Why can't Michelle make their own wine out of the White House garden? :wine:

She's too busy shaving?

[Guest]

She's too busy shaving?

:BigApplause:

[Guest]

He's a "public servant", an elected official, he works for us, he is paid by us, he actively volunteered for the position, other presidents didn't take advantage of the "perks".

He and his family cost US taxpayers $1.4 billion a year. I vote we cut it back a tad, how about you?

Taxpayers spent $1.4 billion on Obama family last year | The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/26/taxpayers-spent-1-4-billion-on-obama-family-last-year-perks-questioned-in-new-book/)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/bachmanns-claim-that-barack-obama-has-a-14-billion-a-year-presidency/2013/03/17/bb5f3ea2-8f40-11e2-bdea-e32ad90da239_blog.html

Obama family 'costs taxpayers $1.4BILLION per year' | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210323/Obama-family-costs-taxpayers-1-4BILLION-year.html)

Yes it's too much money.
from your link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/bachmanns-claim-that-barack-obama-has-a-14-billion-a-year-presidency/2013/03/17/bb5f3ea2-8f40-11e2-bdea-e32ad90da239_blog.html


"But there is big difference between “perks and excess” and security necessary to protect the president. So using the broad $1.4 billion figure is fairly misleading in that context.

Moreover, the money spent on the presidency and the so-called perks she describes appear to be no different for Obama than for Bush or other presidents. It’s absurd to suggest otherwise."

[Guest]

Yes it's too much money.
from your link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/bachmanns-claim-that-barack-obama-has-a-14-billion-a-year-presidency/2013/03/17/bb5f3ea2-8f40-11e2-bdea-e32ad90da239_blog.html


"But there is big difference between “perks and excess” and security necessary to protect the president. So using the broad $1.4 billion figure is fairly misleading in that context.

Moreover, the money spent on the presidency and the so-called perks she describes appear to be no different for Obama than for Bush or other presidents. It’s absurd to suggest otherwise."

$400 a bottle wine isn't an excess? How much security does he need? A billion? Half a billion? You're looking for excuses to justify $1.4 billion a year?

I didn't single him out, he's sitting there now, taking and living in excess. I want him to stop living like a lord, and I all who follow to not live like royalty. We didn't elect a king to lavish. We elected a person to see after our interests, financial responsibility being one of his duties.

Look how "they" live and you wonder why they have no problem giving out benefits like candy.

The people are starving? Give them $400 a bottle wine and cheesecake!

[Guest]

$400 a bottle wine isn't an excess? How much security does he need? A billion? Half a billion? You're looking for excuses to justify $1.4 billion a year?

I didn't single him out, he's sitting there now, taking and living in excess. I want him to stop living like a lord, and I all who follow to not live like royalty. We didn't elect a king to lavish. We elected a person to see after our interests, financial responsibility being one of his duties.

Look how "they" live and you wonder why they have no problem giving out benefits like candy.

The people are starving? Give them $400 a bottle wine and cheesecake!
Read my response again.
Originally Posted by Guest View Post
Yes it's too much money.
from your link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...a239_blog.html


"But there is big difference between “perks and excess” and security necessary to protect the president. So using the broad $1.4 billion figure is fairly misleading in that context.

Moreover, the money spent on the presidency and the so-called perks she describes appear to be no different for Obama than for Bush or other presidents. It’s absurd to suggest otherwise."

[Guest]

Read my response again.
Originally Posted by Guest View Post
Yes it's too much money.
from your link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...a239_blog.html


"But there is big difference between “perks and excess” and security necessary to protect the president. So using the broad $1.4 billion figure is fairly misleading in that context.

Moreover, the money spent on the presidency and the so-called perks she describes appear to be no different for Obama than for Bush or other presidents. It’s absurd to suggest otherwise."


This money is all controlled and allocated by congress. Any beefs related to excesses should be directed to them. Congress controls the purse strings.

[Guest]

This is interesting

Presidential pay history
Salary Salary in 2012 adjusted

September 24, 1789 $25,000 $673,451
March 3, 1873 $50,000 $992,777
March 4, 1909 $75,000 $1,954,850
January 19, 1949 $100,000 $967,315
January 20, 1969 $200,000 $1,254,610
January 20, 2001 $400,000 $519,979
Obama $400,000

[Guest]

Obama is asking congress to approve a raise for president retirement pension.

BREAKING: Obama Just Gave Himself A MASSIVE Pay Raise... FOREVER! $$$ (http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-obama-just-gave-massive-pay-raise/)

[Guest]

This is interesting

Presidential pay history
Salary Salary in 2012 adjusted

September 24, 1789 $25,000 $673,451
March 3, 1873 $50,000 $992,777
March 4, 1909 $75,000 $1,954,850
January 19, 1949 $100,000 $967,315
January 20, 1969 $200,000 $1,254,610
January 20, 2001 $400,000 $519,979
Obama $400,000

The numbers don't lie. Thank you.

[Guest]

The numbers don't lie. Thank you.
2016 Masters Prize Money
Position Players Prize Money
1st Danny Willett $1,800,000
2nd Lee Westwood $880,000
2nd Jordan Spieth $880,000
4th Paul Casey $413,333

[Guest]

This is interesting

Presidential pay history
Salary Salary in 2012 adjusted

September 24, 1789 $25,000 $673,451
March 3, 1873 $50,000 $992,777
March 4, 1909 $75,000 $1,954,850
January 19, 1949 $100,000 $967,315
January 20, 1969 $200,000 $1,254,610
January 20, 2001 $400,000 $519,979
Obama $400,000

Presidents are overpaid.
A lawyer fails so they become politicians and become millionaires.

[Guest]

Presidents are overpaid.
A lawyer fails so they become politicians and become millionaires.
At the time, the population of attorneys in the United States had surpassed 450,000, and law schools were graduating 34,000 new ones each year. By 2011, the annual production of law degrees was up to 44,000, and at 1.22 million, the number of lawyers in the country — which included me — had nearly tripled.May 9, 2014

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/05/09/the-lawyer-bubble-pops-not-moment-too-soon/qAYzQ823qpfi4GQl2OiPZM/story.html

[Guest]

At the time, the population of attorneys in the United States had surpassed 450,000, and law schools were graduating 34,000 new ones each year. By 2011, the annual production of law degrees was up to 44,000, and at 1.22 million, the number of lawyers in the country — which included me — had nearly tripled.May 9, 2014

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/05/09/the-lawyer-bubble-pops-not-moment-too-soon/qAYzQ823qpfi4GQl2OiPZM/story.html

When you go to a city to visit/vacation/etc take a moment to check the yellow pages and see how many attorneys there are. I do not care what size city; small to large and in between....there are many, many, MANY attorneys.

As a result we use them and have become a very litigious society.

[Guest]

At the time, the population of attorneys in the United States had surpassed 450,000, and law schools were graduating 34,000 new ones each year. By 2011, the annual production of law degrees was up to 44,000, and at 1.22 million, the number of lawyers in the country — which included me — had nearly tripled.May 9, 2014

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/05/09/the-lawyer-bubble-pops-not-moment-too-soon/qAYzQ823qpfi4GQl2OiPZM/story.html

Does that mean that lawyers are dime a dozen, Taz?