Do you think TV would be better...

[spring_chicken]

Given the crime stats for adult children living with villagers, let me just throw this thought out. I have no idea if it would be legal or not....
What if instead of 19, a person had to be 40 to reside in TV? Of course there could be exceptions made for handicapped adult children who cannot live on their own...
Do you think that would make TV better? Cut out some of the crimes related to drug addiction?
Just looking for opinions, not stating one.

[Bogie Shooter]

There have been plenty over 40 who make the headlines.
This sound something like what I have been hearing on the news..................

[spring_chicken]

There have been plenty over 40 who make the headlines.
This sound something like what I have been hearing on the news..................

And the majority of them have been under 40.
I'm not a mind reader so I have no idea what you've been hearing on the news.

[CFrance]

And the majority of them have been under 40.
I'm not a mind reader so I have no idea what you've been hearing on the news.
I disagree with you that the majority are under 40. Can you cite a source for that?

[spring_chicken]

I disagree with you that the majority are under 40. Can you cite a source for that?

My source is only arrest records for sumter county. Don't know about down south. And for discussion sake, make it 50 if you want?

But I will clarify that more of the sex offenders living in TV are older.

[Allegiance]

They should make the villages a retirement community, 55 and over. I think it's an idea that may take off.

[kcrazorbackfan]

They should make the villages a retirement community, 55 and over. I think it's an idea that may take off.

:boom: :bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

[Bosoxfan]

They should make the villages a retirement community, 55 and over. I think it's an idea that may take off.

Florida law allows up to %20 of people to be under 55.

[Bosoxfan]

Home / Resources / 55+ Housing / Requirements
Requirements
Federal Register 24 CFR Part 100; section 760.24-760.37 (4a), Florida Statutes

For a community to be considered "housing for older persons" as a 55+ community, the housing must be intended and operated for occupancy by persons 55 years of age or older and meet the following requirements:

At least 80% of the occupied units are occupied by at least one person 55 years of age or older.
The facility or community publishes and adheres to policies and procedures that demonstrate its intent to in fact be a provider of housing for older persons.
The facility or community complies with rules established by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) for verification of occupancy.

[billethkid]

How about comparing the arrest records of other cities the size of TV?

Then there would be a basis for discussion.

The villages dot com amateur hour is not a credible source.

[Walter123]

Given the crime stats for adult children living with villagers, let me just throw this thought out. I have no idea if it would be legal or not....
What if instead of 19, a person had to be 40 to reside in TV? Of course there could be exceptions made for handicapped adult children who cannot live on their own...
Do you think that would make TV better? Cut out some of the crimes related to drug addiction?
Just looking for opinions, not stating one.

I think it would be worse not better. I personally like to see young people living here. I also believe that if you're 19 and living with your parents, that would be somewhat normal and, on the other hand, there is probably something wrong if you are 45 and still living with your parents but not in all cases. Hey, here's an idea, let's make 82.5 the max age and we could reduce the number of medically induced vehicle accidents!

[alwann]

Home / Resources / 55+ Housing / Requirements
Requirements
Federal Register 24 CFR Part 100; section 760.24-760.37 (4a), Florida Statutes

For a community to be considered "housing for older persons" as a 55+ community, the housing must be intended and operated for occupancy by persons 55 years of age or older and meet the following requirements:

At least 80% of the occupied units are occupied by at least one person 55 years of age or older.
The facility or community publishes and adheres to policies and procedures that demonstrate its intent to in fact be a provider of housing for older persons.
The facility or community complies with rules established by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) for verification of occupancy.

Every time this issue is raised, I ask but never get an answer. Who keeps an official count? Where are the stats? And who tracks the number
and enforces the law?

[goodtimesintv]

I think TV would be better without taking a handful of police blotter reports and stereotyping 119,000 people as "guilty" of housing deadbeat offspring, just because the front page of that "other online newspaper" puts mug shots on the front page, above the fold.

Right now, these (below) are the front page headlines appearing BEFORE a story on The Villages HONOR FLIGHT. That paper loves to put this skanky stuff before decent, honorable citizen stories here.......

61-year-old Villager arrested after fight with wife over phone

Man with Oxycodone, crowbar arrested after attempted burglary in The Villages

In wake of attempted burglary in Village of Amelia, sheriff’s office issues tips to stay safe

Woman arrested after kicking another woman out of bed in fight over missed call

Woman arrested after fight with boyfriend at The Quarters Apartments

Villages Honor Flight returning to the skies with first flight of 2016

[NYGUY]

Florida law allows up to %20 of people to be under 55.

Home / Resources / 55+ Housing / Requirements
Requirements
Federal Register 24 CFR Part 100; section 760.24-760.37 (4a), Florida Statutes

For a community to be considered "housing for older persons" as a 55+ community, the housing must be intended and operated for occupancy by persons 55 years of age or older and meet the following requirements:

At least 80% of the occupied units are occupied by at least one person 55 years of age or older.
The facility or community publishes and adheres to policies and procedures that demonstrate its intent to in fact be a provider of housing for older persons.
The facility or community complies with rules established by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) for verification of occupancy.

I think similar Federal Law controls in this case and I doubt you can pick out any age below 65 to satisfy yourself as the OP suggested. I am going to guess that 19 is part of the law.

[graciegirl]

I think similar Federal Law controls in this case and I doubt you can pick out any age below 65 to satisfy yourself as the OP suggested. I am going to guess that 19 is part of the law.





Sane answer. As usual.

[njbchbum]

Apparently you did not notice that the Honor Flight story was posted on March 27th while the items you highlighted were posted March 28th. So the Honor Flight story has now had two days of publication.
"Villages Honor Flight returning to the skies with first flight of 2016
March 27, 2016"


I think TV would be better without taking a handful of police blotter reports and stereotyping 119,000 people as "guilty" of housing deadbeat offspring, just because the front page of that "other online newspaper" puts mug shots on the front page, above the fold.

Right now, these (below) are the front page headlines appearing BEFORE a story on The Villages HONOR FLIGHT. That paper loves to put this skanky stuff before decent, honorable citizen stories here.......

61-year-old Villager arrested after fight with wife over phone

Man with Oxycodone, crowbar arrested after attempted burglary in The Villages

In wake of attempted burglary in Village of Amelia, sheriff’s office issues tips to stay safe

Woman arrested after kicking another woman out of bed in fight over missed call

Woman arrested after fight with boyfriend at The Quarters Apartments

Villages Honor Flight returning to the skies with first flight of 2016

[Barefoot]

As Beachbum said, the Honor Flight story ran for two days.
It's good that the online newspaper is by subscription only.
We can opt out at any time so we don't have to read the "skanky stuff". :read:

I think TV would be better without taking a handful of police blotter reports and stereotyping 119,000 people as "guilty" of housing deadbeat offspring, just because the front page of that "other online newspaper" puts mug shots on the front page, above the fold.

Right now, these (below) are the front page headlines appearing BEFORE a story on The Villages HONOR FLIGHT. That paper loves to put this skanky stuff before decent, honorable citizen stories here.......

61-year-old Villager arrested after fight with wife over phone

Man with Oxycodone, crowbar arrested after attempted burglary in The Villages

In wake of attempted burglary in Village of Amelia, sheriff’s office issues tips to stay safe

Woman arrested after kicking another woman out of bed in fight over missed call

Woman arrested after fight with boyfriend at The Quarters Apartments

Villages Honor Flight returning to the skies with first flight of 2016

[rubicon]

Given the crime stats for adult children living with villagers, let me just throw this thought out. I have no idea if it would be legal or not....
What if instead of 19, a person had to be 40 to reside in TV? Of course there could be exceptions made for handicapped adult children who cannot live on their own...
Do you think that would make TV better? Cut out some of the crimes related to drug addiction?
Just looking for opinions, not stating one.

spring_chicken: The manner in which you present your question implies that all adult children living in TV are a concern. Further it implies that these adult children are children of TV residents. Still further that they are residents and not renters.

Do you have the exact statistics of: 1) how many adult residents are living with their TV parents? 2) of these, how many of these adult residents have been arrested, etc? 3) compared arrests of any kind to other than adult children of TV residents?

How can you postulate that perhaps TV would be better off if........

In today's America more and more adult children live with their parents all across this nation for myraid reasons economical medical, etc

I could give you a number of ways I believe TV would be better off none of which have anything to do with adult children living here.

By the way I welcome the adult children to this community because I recognize in the vast majority of reasons there is legitimate need vis a vis the stero-typical (dead beats) responses you get from some posters. There is obvious a lot of love and care going on in those homes.

Thank you for bringing this topic to our attention because it appears it does need a breathing .

Personal Best Regards:

[Challenger]

Given the crime stats for adult children living with villagers, let me just throw this thought out. I have no idea if it would be legal or not....
What if instead of 19, a person had to be 40 to reside in TV? Of course there could be exceptions made for handicapped adult children who cannot live on their own...
Do you think that would make TV better? Cut out some of the crimes related to drug addiction?
Just looking for opinions, not stating one.

TV would be much better off if there was less alcohol consumption by residents of all ages. By far the biggest contributor to the incidence of crime in TV is "daemon rum".--- DUI , Battery etc.

[Walter123]

How does the saying go? Oh yeah, Ask a simple question, get a simple answer....

[spring_chicken]

spring_chicken: The manner in which you present your question implies that all adult children living in TV are a concern. Further it implies that these adult children are children of TV residents. Still further that they are residents and not renters.

Do you have the exact statistics of: 1) how many adult residents are living with their TV parents? 2) of these, how many of these adult residents have been arrested, etc? 3) compared arrests of any kind to other than adult children of TV residents?

How can you postulate that perhaps TV would be better off if........

In today's America more and more adult children live with their parents all across this nation for myraid reasons economical medical, etc

I could give you a number of ways I believe TV would be better off none of which have anything to do with adult children living here.

By the way I welcome the adult children to this community because I recognize in the vast majority of reasons there is legitimate need vis a vis the stero-typical (dead beats) responses you get from some posters. There is obvious a lot of love and care going on in those homes.

Thank you for bringing this topic to our attention because it appears it does need a breathing .

Personal Best Regards:

Did you happen to see this line in my post "Just looking for opinions, not stating one."
The entire question was based on the opining on this board about "deadbeat" kids living with parents. I was trying to figure out if that is a common opinion here or a very vocal minority.
Pretty sure I got my answer from the very few responses that actually gave an opinion.

[mulligan]

Every time this issue is raised, I ask but never get an answer. Who keeps an official count? Where are the stats? And who tracks the number
and enforces the law?

And quite a few times, I have stated that age and other information is connected to your villages ID#. Easy to track. You would be amazed to see how much personal info is stored on TV computers. They use the IBM AS400 system, probably one of the best data base manipulators in existence.

[outlaw]

My understanding of the law is that to be categorized as a 55+ community it MUST have at least 80% 55+ residents. The law ALLOWS up to 20% under age 55 to still be categorized as a 55+ community. There is nothing keeping a development from having 100% 55+. It is up to each community and deed restrictions.

[justjim]

We like to be around younger people as they usually make us "feel" younger. OP, 20% can be younger than 55 by law and regardless how we "feel" that is unlikely to change.

BTW, I agree that there is too much alcohol consumed at the squares. I don't particularly care one way or another as long as they are not obnoxious and have a designated driver to take them home. I have very little patience with an obnoxious drunk.

[looneycat]

Given the crime stats for adult children living with villagers, let me just throw this thought out. I have no idea if it would be legal or not....
What if instead of 19, a person had to be 40 to reside in TV? Of course there could be exceptions made for handicapped adult children who cannot live on their own...
Do you think that would make TV better? Cut out some of the crimes related to drug addiction?
Just looking for opinions, not stating one.

I think that is a disgustingly myopic idea. what's next? muslims, handicapped, ugly people, short people????

[dillywho]

I think it would be worse not better. I personally like to see young people living here. I also believe that if you're 19 and living with your parents, that would be somewhat normal and, on the other hand, there is probably something wrong if you are 45 and still living with your parents but not in all cases. Hey, here's an idea, let's make 82.5 the max age and we could reduce the number of medically induced vehicle accidents!

You're right, you can't paint everyone with the same brush, so to speak. Not every person in their 40's is living with their parents because there is something wrong with THEM. I know instances where they are living with their parents in order to take care of their parents.

[2BNTV]

I think the crime rate in TV is extremely low. I also like seeing younger people out and about. I think some people have a bias when the crime blotter states an age, and the correlation to age, becoming the dominate factor. It seems the little crime we have, is drug related, (including alcohol), and not age related. There are some people who are flat out thieves, trying to scam older people. IMHO

As other people have said, you can't paint everyone with the same broad brush.

Seriously, zero crime rate is unattainable, no matter where one lives.

Raising the minimum age is a very bad idea. It smacks of age discrimination. IMHO

[CritterLover]

It's not an age thing, it's a creep thing. People who are going to be creeps are going to do it, no matter what. :(

[goodtimesintv]

And quite a few times, I have stated that age and other information is connected to your villages ID#. Easy to track. You would be amazed to see how much personal info is stored on TV computers. They use the IBM AS400 system, probably one of the best data base manipulators in existence.

This is correct. The birthdate of absolutely everyone who's ever been here on a Lifestyle Preview Stay or has been issued a Resident ID is in the TV database. Some here grossly underestimate the developers' administrative skill and methods. They don't make the sloppy messes elected public officials do!

[graciegirl]

It's not an age thing, it's a creep thing. People who are going to be creeps are going to do it, no matter what. :(





Well said. I am stealing that line.

[Walter123]

You're right, you can't paint everyone with the same brush, so to speak. Not every person in their 40's is living with their parents because there is something wrong with THEM. I know instances where they are living with their parents in order to take care of their parents.

Yes Dilly, I agree with you 100%. There are those that take care of their parents that's why I wrote there is probably something wrong but not in all cases. Point being that it's more "normal" for a 19yo to be living with their parents then it is for a 45yo.
When my son got out of the Army he lived with us here for 6 months until he start college in Melbourne.

[birdawg]

Not to get off the subject but I would like to see a village just for dogs and their owners. This way they could **** and crap at their mail station.

[CFrance]

Not to get off the subject but I would like to see a village just for dogs and their owners. This way they could **** and crap at their mail station.
Going further off topic, I'd like to turn that around... Let's have a village confined to people who hate pets. Everyone else could live in peace.

[gadaboutgal]

Home / Resources / 55+ Housing / Requirements
Requirements
Federal Register 24 CFR Part 100; section 760.24-760.37 (4a), Florida Statutes

For a community to be considered "housing for older persons" as a 55+ community, the housing must be intended and operated for occupancy by persons 55 years of age or older and meet the following requirements:

At least 80% of the occupied units are occupied by at least one person 55 years of age or older.
The facility or community publishes and adheres to policies and procedures that demonstrate its intent to in fact be a provider of housing for older persons.
The facility or community complies with rules established by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) for verification of occupancy.

THANK YOU FOR A RESONABLE POST! This topic comes up periodically on here. We all need to remember we were given this information when we bought here: "occupied by at least one person 55 years of age" --occupied-not owned. And this law does not exclude under 55 and over 19 from owning or occupying-as long as person living within the home is over 55.
End of Story!