Aggressive dog at Doggie Doo Run Run.

[Taltarzac725]

I was doing my laps at Doggie Doo Run Run in the back field and approached the picnic table. The first lap went OK. The second time I just put my hand out to perhaps pet Harlow but it started barking. The third time around I got close and Harlow acted like (s)he wanted to kill me with his barking and aggressive stance. I did not get my fourth lap in because I was scared I was going to get bit or worse mauled badly by this pit bull mix type dog (maybe boxer and pit bull). This kind of behavior should not be displayed at a private nor public dog park unless the dog is leashed even then I believe it is inappropriate and puts people at risk who are just using the park for their own and their dog's enjoyment.

I did warn one man who was going into the big dog park as it seems that Harlow has a problem with men. I was not carrying any kind of stick nor did I raise my voice to complain about Harlow's behavior to these two women one of whom I know fairly well and like from talks at the dog park.

I did not warn everyone coming into the dog park about Harlow though as I hope that Harlow's owner would have the common sense to leash Harlow and get him out of the dog park ASAP.

Nothing bad happened but I just wanted to document it and warn the male users of Doggie Doo Run Run to watch out for Harlow.

Maybe it is me or one of the women has some problem we me individually but I do not even know the name of the owner of Harlow. It is a younger aged maybe 30 or thereabouts lady.

This happened about 11:50 am 4/1/2016 at the backfield of Doggie Doo Run Run and was witnessed by the owner of Jade along with Harlow's owner.

This is not an April Fool's joke and I will talk to the owners' of Doggie Doo Run Run-- Scott and Laura-- tomorrow about this.

The dog Harlow was still playing with Jade when I left Doggie Doo Run Run about 12:00 AM 4/1/2016.

Jade is a sweet pit bull mix which I have never had any problem with the number of months I have been around her so I do not have a problem with pit bull mixes in general. Harlow though seems to have a very serious problem around men.

[Lovey2]

do you mean you were running towards the dog with your hand out? and then again? and again? I'm not sure what you mean by laps, maybe I am reading this wrong. It's not clear to me you actually believe the dog is the issue either.

[Taltarzac725]

do you mean you were running towards the dog with your hand out? and then again? and again? I'm not sure what you mean by laps, maybe I am reading this wrong. It's not clear to me you actually believe the dog is the issue either.

No. You walk around a 5 acre dog park. A lap is just someone walking around a large back field. There were two women at the picnic table with their dogs Jade and Harlow. I walked by three times and the dog got worse and worse in its treatment of me acting like I was a threat to it or its owner. I made no quick moves and put my hands behind my back as soon as I feel Harlow might attack me. This is a 66-70 pound pit bull mix.

What would be the issue except for a dog that should not be at a dog park??? There are more men than women who go to Doggie Doo Run Run as these are mostly Villagers. If a large dog has a problem with men and acts like it is going to bite someone then it should be leashed or at home. And not at a dog park at all.

Harlow has only been coming to DDRR for a few months. And, I have had problems with him/her before but never where the owner cannot control the dog.

There is no reason I know of that either of these women would have ill feelings towards me. I do know that dogs pick up on the feelings their masters have about certain people. I do not know Harlow's master at all. I have talked extensively with Jade's owner about various things and have NEVER had ANY problem with Jade.

I do have a problem with a dog becoming protective of its owner at a dog park unless there is a valid reason this pooch fears for its owner's well-being. Harlow seems like a dog that some men abused at some point and now wants to hit back and anyone that reminds him/her of the men who abused it. That's just a theory though as again I do NOT KNOW Harlow nor its owner.

[Polar Bear]

DDRR is a very large place. I can't help but wonder why your laps had to take you so close to Harlow once you knew he didn't appear to be friendly to you.

[Taltarzac725]

DDRR is a very large place. I can't help but wonder why your laps had to take you so close to Harlow once you knew he didn't appear to be friendly to you.

You think that an aggressive dog should be in a place like that??? DDRR does have in their sign that aggressive dogs will be removed immediately.

This is not a matter of two dogs that do not get along. That happens a lot. The owners just keep their dogs away from one another.

This is a dog that dislikes men for some reason. And Harlow acted like he was about to attack me. Why are people having a hard time with this?

Nasty dogs do not belong at dog parks. And if one bites a person and the DDRR owners' could have done something to stop it, then they are looking at a possible worthwhile lawsuit. Dog Bite Lawsuits: Strict Liability vs. Premises Liability - Daytona Beach, FL (http://www.chanfraulaw.com/blog/2015/11/23/dog-bite-lawsuits-strict-liability-165073)

[Polar Bear]

You think that an aggressive dog should be in a place like that??? DDRR does have in their sign that aggressive dogs will be removed immediately.

This is not a matter of two dogs that do not get along. That happens a lot. The owners just keep their dogs away from one another.

This is a dog that dislikes men for some reason.

I don't claim to know the facts of the situation. But my question is still valid...and you certainly didn't respond to it.

[Taltarzac725]

I don't claim to know the facts of the situation. But my question is still valid...and you certainly didn't respond to it.

I have not had serious problems with Harlow before. The owner usually gets it under control. Today she did not have control on the third lap. If an owner does not have control of an aggressive dog at a dog park, it should not be there at all.

I should be able to walk in a dog park without fear of being attacked by a dog unless I am harming the owner in some way or harming the dog. I was not. The only gesture I made was to try to pet Harlow on the head. This was on the second lap that I tried to pet it. I never actually touched Harlow as when I tried to pet it, it started barking.

I am no longer responding to any negative comments on this thread.

[HimandMe]

The OP is merely making us aware of a possible problem based on his adult opinion.

[Polar Bear]

The OP is merely making us aware of a possible problem based on his adult opinion.

Agreed. And responders are merely asking for clarification and more information.

[ajbrown]

The reason I have never taken my dogs to a dog park is that there are many dog handlers that ARE AN ISSUE and it it tiresome to protect my pack (girl) from folks that have no clue how to handle a dog.

Based on what I have read here, I am not sure where the root cause exists. Maybe Caesar would visit DDRR?

I suspect it would be very enlightening to many who think their dog is the friendly one....

PS. It is not the dog it is the handler 99% of the time.

[Taltarzac725]

The reason I have never taken my dogs to a dog park is that there are many dog handlers that ARE AN ISSUE and it it tiresome to protect my pack (girl) from folks that have no clue how to handle a dog.

Based on what I have read here, I am not sure where the root cause exists. Maybe Caesar would visit DDRR?

I suspect it would be very enlightening to many who think their dog is the friendly one....

PS. It is not the dog it is the handler 99% of the time.

I have been going to DDRR since January 2007 with Sport, then with Beau since 2014.

There have been a few cases of dogs biting people. Usually it is the small dogs that nip their owner's legs or hands or the poop scoopers' legs or hands.

A pit bull mix though can do very serious damage to a person very quickly. Some people have been killed by them. An aggressive pit bull mix has no business being at a dog park. That is the law in some places. I do not agree with blanket bans on certain breeds but I am scared of pit bull mixes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States

[Jima64]

Any dog park I have ever been at had a badic rule---- any dog that acted in a aggressive manner should be remov d from the park. Too much liability and danger for all.

[Barefoot]

I wouldn't want new users and people who are contemplating using DDRR to get the wrong impression.
To the best of my knowledge, the owners of DDRR, Scott and Laura, have been very responsive to any concerns raised by users of the dog park.
I think your problem with Harlow should be shared with them.

[onslowe]

Tal is doing the sensible thing relating this incident to the owners. They certainly don't want one dog attacking or biting persons or other dogs.

It would be of benefit to those so quick to jump to negativity to remember that the dogs are all off leash and if one dog shows aggression to a human anywhere in the park that dog must go to the DDRR "special dog run" or out of the park. A dog's concept of 'territory' is very elastic, and no one's enjoyment of the DDRR should be curtailed by one errant off leash animal.

DDRR is a great and well policed place. It makes me wonder how many posters have visited it.

[Polar Bear]

...those so quick to jump to negativity...

I am a fan of DDRR also. But do you not think "jump to negativity" runs both ways?

I don't mean to question Tal's sincerity or intent at all. But I believe some may have felt..from the information provided...that Harlow's guilt had not yet been absolutely established.

I'm not jumping to negativity...just awaiting a little more clarification before jumping to conclusions.

[Lovey2]

I apologize then. Apparently I do not understand the working of a dog park, or the lingo. In your response you said the "talk" got worse and worse, I am assuming, by the 2 women. I don't know why you would continue to go by them then and didn't just seek another route. Yes, an aggressive dog should be reported, but I don't see that you did anything to help alleviate the problem. Again...apparently I just don't understand how dog parks work, so I'll leave you guys to it. Sorry.

[Taltarzac725]

I wouldn't want new users and people who are contemplating using DDRR to get the wrong impression.
To the best of my knowledge, the owners of DDRR, Scott and Laura, have been very responsive to any concerns raised by users of the dog park.
I think your problem with Harlow should be shared with them.


I will share it with them tomorrow.

[Polar Bear]

...maybe I am reading this wrong. It's not clear to me you actually believe the dog is the issue either.

That is the sort of uncertainty I share. I don't think Lovey2 owes an apology to anybody for such thoughts.

[Taltarzac725]

Tal is doing the sensible thing relating this incident to the owners. They certainly don't want one dog attacking or biting persons or other dogs.

It would be of benefit to those so quick to jump to negativity to remember that the dogs are all off leash and if one dog shows aggression to a human anywhere in the park that dog must go to the DDRR "special dog run" or out of the park. A dog's concept of 'territory' is very elastic, and no one's enjoyment of the DDRR should be curtailed by one errant off leash animal.

DDRR is a great and well policed place. It makes me wonder how many posters have visited it.

Joe -- one of the DDRR employees-- was showing a new customer the ropes while I was going out. I thought I would not disturb them with my complaint about Harlow just then. And I did hope that Jade's owner would help out with getting through to Harlow's owner about the dog's aggression towards me. I was just walking around the dog park and did try to pet Harlow but my hand never got more than a foot from Harlow because Harlow started to bark when I put my hand out. The third loop is when I had the serious problem and thought that Harlow might attack me.

[Railcruiser]

Wesh 2 news tonight & Fox 25. Leesburg woman killed in her own homw by her own Pit mix. mauled to death. I Love dogs but just sayin.
I haven't been too DDr in a few years. One of my dogs doesn't behave. I do remember T & Scout very well. A quiet gentle man. I'm pretty sure didn't antagonize this dog in anyway..
I miss DDR. So do Dory & Ellie. Hi to all

[Taltarzac725]

I apologize then. Apparently I do not understand the working of a dog park, or the lingo. In your response you said the "talk" got worse and worse, I am assuming, by the 2 women. I don't know why you would continue to go by them then and didn't just seek another route. Yes, an aggressive dog should be reported, but I don't see that you did anything to help alleviate the problem. Again...apparently I just don't understand how dog parks work, so I'll leave you guys to it. Sorry.

Not at all. I have been friendly with both of these women and they have been friendly with me.

I would not say something mean to someone who owns an unleashed pit bull mix which is a few feet in front of me.

[goodtimesintv]

Imagine that pit-bull mix with its owner who is roping off chairs at Spanish Springs at 3:00 p.m., for the whole night, knowing they will be at Katie Belles or other bar for most of the evening.

People like that in numbers in TV are why I'd never take my dog to a dog park.....they are obnoxious, entitled and exempt from any rules. They raise their dogs the same way.

[Nucky]

My middle son had a pit bull that he took for training every Saturday about an hour away from home. I'm not a professional dog anything but I love dogs. This dog appeared to be a good natured animal. The training attack signals to the dog were in Vietnamese so no one could mistakenly alert the dog to attack. The result once I saw the video of this beautiful animal in action was it was banned from my home. What a shame. It was a necessary action to take because of my Boxer Mr. Barney's health and the grandchildren being around. I believe his macho training of this dog ruined the dog as the dog always seemed edgy afterward. He gave the dog away shortly afterward. A $1800 dollar dog given away, I'll bet something happened that he won't reveal to me. They are attack dogs. My boxer is not capable of such a vicious attack but I keep the good dog away from the kids when he's eating or stressed from the heat. They after all are animal's. We make the decision's. I rest my case. Give that DDRR joint a rest for a bit. Less stress for you.

[Barefoot]

People like that in numbers in TV are why I'd never take my dog to a dog park.....they are obnoxious, entitled and exempt from any rules. They raise their dogs the same way.
DDRR is privately owned and therefore is run a bit differently than the dog parks provided by The Villages.
Most of the "regulars" at DDRR are great people and have dogs that are socialized and tolerate each other well.
I've found the owners, Scott and Laura, to be very responsible about ejecting dogs that are badly behaved.

[Taltarzac725]

DDRR is privately owned and therefore is run a bit differently than the dog parks provided by The Villages.
Most of the "regulars" at DDRR are great people and have dogs that are socialized and tolerate each other well.
I've found the owners, Scott and Laura, to be very responsible about ejecting dogs that are badly behaved.

I will try to talk to them ASAP about Harlow.

[Taltarzac725]

After a lifetime of having dogs and working with rescues, I've finally come to the realization that it is the responsibility of the human to keep a dog away from a situation that may result in a negative outcome.

The owner did not seem to have much control over Harlow. I will probably have to go somewhere else other than Doggie Doo Run Run if Harlow remains as she/he is. Very protective of his/her owner and acting like he/she may unman me at some point. And I would not be very good in a boy's choir.

[ajbrown]

The owner did not seem to have much control over Harlow. I will probably have to go somewhere else other than Doggie Doo Run Run if Harlow remains as she/he is. Very protective of his/her owner and acting like he/she may unman me at some point. And I would not be very good in a boy's choir.

This goes back to my earlier post and why I do not visit dog parks. To be clear, I have never been to DDRR and hear wonderful things about them, so this is just me and how I have raised my dogs.

The rest is not based in fact, it is my opinion based on postings on this thread. I did not witness this nor have I heard “Harlow’s’ side”, so this could be off base, but enjoyable to discuss as I can learn things as people correct me or give their opinion…

Based on this thread we have a strong breed being handled by someone who is not a confident/competant handler. Due to the handler, Harlow is either a nervous dog or has taken on the role of ‘pack leader’. Facts missing, was Harlow on a leash? Was Harlow’s handler in area?

You approach in what you perceive is a friendly manner. From your own posts I would believe you are nervous as you approach. In dog world you are emitting a loud beacon of instability. This is not meant to be insulting, it is human nature.

The problem is that dogs do not understand human nature and because Harlow has never been ‘brought up’ correctly, he is afraid or he is protecting his pack from an unstable stranger approaching.

IMO, it is a dangerous situation when a weak handler owns any dog, but especially a large strong breed.

[sharoni]

I guess my one question would be, were you there with a dog or by yourself. Your post is unclear of that! Sounds like YOU are there alone and are feeling threatened by Harlow. If you did actually have a dog with you, was he/she threatened?

[Taltarzac725]

This goes back to my earlier post and why I do not visit dog parks. To be clear, I have never been to DDRR and hear wonderful things about them, so this is just me and how I have raised my dogs.

The rest is not based in fact, it is my opinion based on postings on this thread. I did not witness this nor have I heard “Harlow’s’ side”, so this could be off base, but enjoyable to discuss as I can learn things as people correct me or give their opinion…

Based on this thread we have a strong breed being handled by someone who is not a confident/competant handler. Due to the handler, Harlow is either a nervous dog or has taken on the role of ‘pack leader’. Facts missing, was Harlow on a leash? Was Harlow’s handler in area?

You approach in what you perceive is a friendly manner. From your own posts I would believe you are nervous as you approach. In dog world you are emitting a loud beacon of instability. This is not meant to be insulting, it is human nature.

The problem is that dogs do not understand human nature and because Harlow has never been ‘brought up’ correctly, he is afraid or he is protecting his pack from an unstable stranger approaching.

IMO, it is a dangerous situation when a weak handler owns any dog, but especially a large strong breed.

Actually I have not be nervous up to now around Harlow. Now I will be though. Harlow was not on a leash and the owner was probably thirty feet from where I walked past the dog. Harlow had taken a defensive stance in front the picnic table and had become very protective of its owner.

She has had control of Harlow before but not yesterday.

By in large, the dogs at Doggie Doo Run Run are very well behaved and violent encounters are quite rare. They do happen though.

And I am usually a very calm person and anything but unstable. Google Taltarzac725 for more about me.

And sometimes the dog snaps for some reason or no reason. Leesburg woman mauled to death by pit bull, police say - Daily Commercial: News (http://www.dailycommercial.com/news/article_e4e175f0-54b0-5508-bede-35ef7529cefe.html)

[ajbrown]

Actually I have not be nervous up to now around Harlow. Now I will be though. Harlow was not on a leash and the owner was probably thirty feet from where I walked past the dog. Harlow had taken a defensive stance in front the picnic table and had become very protective of its owner.

She has had control of Harlow before but not yesterday.

By in large, the dogs at Doggie Doo Run Run are very well behaved and violent encounters are quite rare. They do happen though.

And I am usually a very calm person and anything but unstable.

And sometimes the dog snaps for some reason or no reason. Leesburg woman mauled to death by pit bull, police say - Daily Commercial: News (http://www.dailycommercial.com/news/article_e4e175f0-54b0-5508-bede-35ef7529cefe.html)

Sorry, I thought I read you were a little apprehensive about pit bull breed. I certainly am when one is around my dog because they are so strong, I am not sure I could intervene.

Sorry #2, I meant unstable as a dog may interpret, not as humans would. I did not mean to imply you are unstable :)

[Taltarzac725]

Sorry, I thought I read you were a little apprehensive about pit bull breed. I certainly am when one is around my dog because they are so strong, I am not sure I could intervene.

Sorry #2, I meant unstable as a dog may interpret, not as humans would. I did not mean to imply you are unstable :)

Jade is a pit bull mix and she and her owner are quite nice. You might get licked by Jade. Jade's owner has faced some unfair prejudice based on how her dog looks.

If I see an unfamiliar pit bull mix though around the Villages my guard does go up. Our former neighbor in Palm Harbor bred pit bulls and treated them like crap so I would expect them to go off on people. He kept them in crates in his garage and even incurred the wrath of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals when he tried to exercise them by tying them to his car and driving around the neighborhood. A boy called 9/11 and got the cops to follow the blood trail to my neighbor's home. That, of course, made the Tampa Bay news stations. And we had to put up with some rather nasty drive-bys. Eggs and the like, not gunshots. I was glad to move out of Palm Harbor in 2005. I had got in a legal mess with the Palm Harbor Library Director Gene Coppola as well over a link to the Florida Victim Services Directory Victim Services Directory (http://myfloridalegal.com/directory) and got hit with a Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation threat from the Palm Harbor Library General Counsel. It would have cost too much financially and more importantly on stress to my family to fight this local bully. So, I got out of Dodge, so to speak. Since 2005, I have had a very nice life here in the Villages and for the most part I am a very happy camper. Broader life experiences though can influence how one interacts both with local people as well as their pets.

You are usually not only interacting with a dog but with its owner and how she/he feels about stuff right then as well. Google Taltarzac725 if you want to know more about my story and where I am at now in my life.

[Taltarzac725]

May not get to Doggie Doo Run Run this weekend because of the weather. I will inform whoever I run into there though who is an employee or owner of DDRR about my experiences with Harlow. Hopefully, someone already has done this by the time Beau and I return to Doggie Doo Run Run.

[Barefoot]

May not get to Doggie Doo Run Run this weekend because of the weather. I will inform whoever I run into there though who is an employee or owner of DDRR about my experiences with Harlow. Hopefully, someone already has done this by the time Beau and I return to Doggie Doo Run Run.
Tal, we will be at DDRR today, but I don't feel comfortable passing on your comments about Harlow, since I didn't see the dog being aggressive. I think you need to talk to Scott or Laura yourself and explain your issues.

[Taltarzac725]

Tal, we will be at DDRR today, but I don't feel comfortable passing on your comments about Harlow, since I didn't see the dog being aggressive. I think you need to talk to Scott or Laura yourself and explain your issues.

I should do it myself. I am just hoping that maybe Jade's owner said something about it. Or maybe even Harlow's owner mentioned it to Scott or Laura. Jade's owner seems like a very good woman. Jade's owner witnessed the whole thing even though she was facing the opposite way at the picnic table I am pretty sure she turned to see what Harlow might do.

Beau does not get along with some of the 5:00 PM dogs in the back field so I try to avoid coming around that time of the day to DDRR. It is Beau that is being that brat in this case.

[Taltarzac725]

I should do it myself. I am just hoping that maybe Jade's owner said something about it. Or maybe even Harlow's owner mentioned it to Scott or Laura. Jade's owner seems like a very good woman. Jade's owner witnessed the whole thing even though she was facing the opposite way at the picnic table I am pretty sure she turned to see what Harlow might do.

Beau does not get along with some of the 5:00 PM dogs in the back field so I try to avoid coming around that time of the day to DDRR. It is Beau that is being that brat in this case.

This is our former dog from around 1991-1998 Amber whose look-a-like at Doggie Doo Run Run, Beau unfortunately does not like licks from.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/taltarzac725/Amber1991001_zpsccd2eefe.jpg (http://s89.photobucket.com/user/taltarzac725/media/Amber1991001_zpsccd2eefe.jpg.html)

[CFrance]

It is never good to be 30 feet away from your dog at a dog park, much less have your back turned to him. At times people start talking to each other and forget about their dogs. There's one dog at Atlas dog park that runs around like a maniac, barking and agitating the other dogs and gets them all riled up in a group. The last time we were there she had seven dogs all in a frenzy. I had to keep my dog away from this pack and finally left for his own protection. The owner ignores what the dog is doing. I think she thinks it's cute or isn't a problem. Somebody's dog is eventually going to get injured.

I hope you will talk to the owners about Harlow, Tal. Also, it would be helpful to give a description of Harlow so others can at least be on the lookout.

[Taltarzac725]

It is never good to be 30 feet away from your dog at a dog park, much less have your back turned to him. At times people start talking to each other and forget about their dogs. There's one dog at Atlas dog park that runs around like a maniac, barking and agitating the other dogs and gets them all riled up in a group. The last time we were there she had seven dogs all in a frenzy. I had to keep my dog away from this pack and finally left for his own protection. The owner ignores what the dog is doing. I think she thinks it's cute or isn't a problem. Somebody's dog is eventually going to get injured.

I hope you will talk to the owners about Harlow, Tal. Also, it would be helpful to give a description of Harlow so others can at least be on the lookout.

Jade is usually fine. Jade's owner was facing the golf course to the north of Doggie Doo Run Run. Harlow's owner was facing Doggie Doo Run Run. Beau was off doing Beau things and no where near this area of the big field. Many dogs at DDRR are far from their owners in the back field.

Harlow is tan in color and seems to be mostly boxer but with some pit bull and other breeds mixed into his or her make-up. This is a large very muscular dog and probably about 1-2 years. Jade is darker in color and a very sweet pooch but also has some pit bull in a large mix of breeds .

[Taltarzac725]

I was doing my laps at Doggie Doo Run Run in the back field and approached the picnic table. The first lap went OK. The second time I just put my hand out to perhaps pet Harlow but it started barking. The third time around I got close and Harlow acted like (s)he wanted to kill me with his barking and aggressive stance. I did not get my fourth lap in because I was scared I was going to get bit or worse mauled badly by this pit bull mix type dog (maybe boxer and pit bull). This kind of behavior should not be displayed at a private nor public dog park unless the dog is leashed even then I believe it is inappropriate and puts people at risk who are just using the park for their own and their dog's enjoyment.

I did warn one man who was going into the big dog park as it seems that Harlow has a problem with men. I was not carrying any kind of stick nor did I raise my voice to complain about Harlow's behavior to these two women one of whom I know fairly well and like from talks at the dog park.

I did not warn everyone coming into the dog park about Harlow though as I hope that Harlow's owner would have the common sense to leash Harlow and get him out of the dog park ASAP.

Nothing bad happened but I just wanted to document it and warn the male users of Doggie Doo Run Run to watch out for Harlow.

Maybe it is me or one of the women has some problem we me individually but I do not even know the name of the owner of Harlow. It is a younger aged maybe 30 or thereabouts lady.

This happened about 11:50 am 4/1/2016 at the backfield of Doggie Doo Run Run and was witnessed by the owner of Jade along with Harlow's owner.

This is not an April Fool's joke and I will talk to the owners' of Doggie Doo Run Run-- Scott and Laura-- tomorrow about this.

The dog Harlow was still playing with Jade when I left Doggie Doo Run Run about 12:00 AM 4/1/2016.

Jade is a sweet pit bull mix which I have never had any problem with the number of months I have been around her so I do not have a problem with pit bull mixes in general. Harlow though seems to have a very serious problem around men.

I will try to report this to the owners at DDRR today.

[Taltarzac725]

I was doing my laps at Doggie Doo Run Run in the back field and approached the picnic table. The first lap went OK. The second time I just put my hand out to perhaps pet Harlow but it started barking. The third time around I got close and Harlow acted like (s)he wanted to kill me with his barking and aggressive stance. I did not get my fourth lap in because I was scared I was going to get bit or worse mauled badly by this pit bull mix type dog (maybe boxer and pit bull). This kind of behavior should not be displayed at a private nor public dog park unless the dog is leashed even then I believe it is inappropriate and puts people at risk who are just using the park for their own and their dog's enjoyment.

I did warn one man who was going into the big dog park as it seems that Harlow has a problem with men. I was not carrying any kind of stick nor did I raise my voice to complain about Harlow's behavior to these two women one of whom I know fairly well and like from talks at the dog park.

I did not warn everyone coming into the dog park about Harlow though as I hope that Harlow's owner would have the common sense to leash Harlow and get him out of the dog park ASAP.

Nothing bad happened but I just wanted to document it and warn the male users of Doggie Doo Run Run to watch out for Harlow.

Maybe it is me or one of the women has some problem we me individually but I do not even know the name of the owner of Harlow. It is a younger aged maybe 30 or thereabouts lady.

This happened about 11:50 am 4/1/2016 at the backfield of Doggie Doo Run Run and was witnessed by the owner of Jade along with Harlow's owner.

This is not an April Fool's joke and I will talk to the owners' of Doggie Doo Run Run-- Scott and Laura-- tomorrow about this.

The dog Harlow was still playing with Jade when I left Doggie Doo Run Run about 12:00 AM 4/1/2016.

Jade is a sweet pit bull mix which I have never had any problem with the number of months I have been around her so I do not have a problem with pit bull mixes in general. Harlow though seems to have a very serious problem around men.

I reported this to Laura but not in as much detail at about 11:50 AM this Sunday 4/3/2016. She did not recall what the owner of Harlow looks like but does know Jade's owner as these two pit bull mixes (at least, that is what they look like to me) play together a lot.

One thing. There are a few dogs that look a little like Harlow but are not the same kind of very protective and sometimes aggressive dog. I petted a dog that looked a little bit like Harlow this morning and it seemed quite happy about it. This was a thinner probably boxer/pit bull mix and was also younger or looked that way.

I will not go into the back field at DDRR now though if I see Harlow there or will stay as far as possible away from him and its owner if it comes in while we are there.

[Taltarzac725]

Wesh 2 news tonight & Fox 25. Leesburg woman killed in her own homw by her own Pit mix. mauled to death. I Love dogs but just sayin.
I haven't been too DDr in a few years. One of my dogs doesn't behave. I do remember T & Scout very well. A quiet gentle man. I'm pretty sure didn't antagonize this dog in anyway..
I miss DDR. So do Dory & Ellie. Hi to all

It was Sport and Tal. Now, Beau and Tal.

Hi. I remember Dory and Ellie. I was wondering what happened to you two or four? I hope you guys are doing well!!!

I am a very quiet person as well as often calm and try to put myself in other's shoes.

Ron had Scout and now has a rather wild puppy-- another Shi Tzu-- also named Scout. Scout, Jr when Ron signs in for it.

Sometimes people would call us Ron/Jon after the surf shop as the dogs Sport and Scout were often confused.

Here is me with Sport from about 4 years ago. Picture take by Grace who has Billikins.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/taltarzac725/Me%20at%20Doggie%20Doo%20Run%20Run%20with%20Sport% 20001_zpsukm3rdhc.jpg

[Railcruiser]

I knew who you are. Like you said I mixed up the names. Such a happy picture. I love it. We are doing great Thank You for asking. I started working too much but that's over now. Hopefully we can get back to the park. I hope it works out for you there

[Taltarzac725]

I knew who you are. Like you said I mixed up the names. Such a happy picture. I love it. We are doing great Thank You for asking. I started working too much but that's over now. Hopefully we can get back to the park. I hope it works out for you there

It should. I do remember Dory but am having a harder time with Ellie? Is she a new one?

Laura and Scott are very good managers/owners of Doggie Doo Run Run and I hope that they see the seriousness of a pit bull mix or something that looks like that being very protective of its owner and the owner not having much control over the dog. I could have been injured very badly from such an encounter. Especially because those jaws are about at waist level.

[Taltarzac725]

I will keep people informed about how this story goes. Hopefully, it will have a happy ending. It may take a while to resolve itself.

[airstreamingypsy]

My Gus, who has never had an issue with another dog, was attacked by a female Pit Bull in a dog park in Texas. It's not like Gus gave her the stink eye, she attacked him from behind with no provocation. It was horrific, she was determined to kill him, he got away from her once and she attacked a second time.... the guy who owned her was able to grab her to stop it and he paid all of Gus' vet bills. Any Pit that is behaving aggressively should be taken seriously. Other dogs may bite and its over, Pits don't just bite.... they attack. After that incident, if I'm in a dog park and a Pit comes in, we are out of there.... a nice one today can be a vicious one tomorrow.

[CFrance]

My Gus, who has never had an issue with another dog, was attacked by a female Pit Bull in a dog park in Texas. It's not like Gus gave her the stink eye, she attacked him from behind with no provocation. It was horrific, she was determined to kill him, he got away from her once and she attacked a second time.... the guy who owned her was able to grab her to stop it and he paid all of Gus' vet bills. Any Pit that is behaving aggressively should be taken seriously. Other dogs may bite and its over, Pits don't just bite.... they attack. After that incident, if I'm in a dog park and a Pit comes in, we are out of there.... a nice one today can be a vicious one tomorrow.
There was a similar incident at a dog park in Bradenton. Had the owner not been attentive to his aggressive dog, it could have been very bad. BTW, what he did was pick the dog's back legs up and pull backwards, and it was then unable to move. It distracted the dog enough to allow the other dog to get away.

I know that not all dogs are within 30 feet of their owners at DDRR. However, aggressive breeds who are known to be protective should never be allowed that far away from their owners. And to the people who asked why Tal didn't walk away... He was the victim, not the aggressor. A dog with aggression and protection instincts should not be brought to a dog park.

[CritterLover]

Any dog showing aggression, for any reason, should not be at a dog park, and their owner should get that. It's not usually the dog's fault, either, that it's aggressive. The owner hasn't properly socialized the dog, and the public certainly should not pay for their ignorance.

[airstreamingypsy]

I was curious about the dog park so I googled it and found these reviews..... seems the place is very unfriendly to newbies..... and according to the bottom review the owners do nothing about aggressive dogs.... Doggie Doo Run Run (http://www.bringfido.com/attraction/2319/)

[Taltarzac725]

I was curious about the dog park so I googled it and found these reviews..... seems the place is very unfriendly to newbies..... and according to the bottom review the owners do nothing about aggressive dogs.... Doggie Doo Run Run (http://www.bringfido.com/attraction/2319/)

There are a lot of very long term customers at Doggie Doo Run Run. They also socialize with one another but will warm up to people if you make an effort. There are different groups that tend to come about the same time and chat often under the various tents. Then there are people who just walk around the park for exercise for the most part. I have done both in the nine years I have been going to Doggie Doo Run Run.

As to aggressive dogs it really varies as to what they allow. It seems to depend somewhat on what complaints have been made against certain dogs and by whom. I do find Laura and Scott though, for the most part, fair. There are some aggressive dogs who have been limited to only coming to the agility area. They do have signs up in various places around the agility area that if that area is in use you should not enter.

[Barefoot]

I was curious about the dog park so I googled it and found these reviews..... seems the place is very unfriendly to newbies..... and according to the bottom review the owners do nothing about aggressive dogs.... Doggie Doo Run Run (http://www.bringfido.com/attraction/2319/)
We've never experienced any unfriendliness in the nine years we've been taking our dogs to DDRR.
On the contrary, we've met lots of wonderful people who have become friends and golf buddies.
I've been told by people who have voiced concerns to Laura and Scott, the owners, that they are very responsive and investigate all complaints.

[Polar Bear]

I was curious about the dog park so I googled it and found these reviews..... seems the place is very unfriendly to newbies..... and according to the bottom review the owners do nothing about aggressive dogs.... Doggie Doo Run Run (http://www.bringfido.com/attraction/2319/)

You do know the inherent nature of googled reviews of anything I hope.

[Taltarzac725]

We've never experienced any unfriendliness in the nine years we've been taking our dogs to DDRR.
On the contrary, we've met lots of wonderful people who have become friends and golf buddies.
I've been told by people who have voiced concerns to Laura and Scott, the owners, that they are very responsive and investigate all complaints.

This is my first complaint made about any dog at Doggie Doo Run Run. There are some dogs that play a little rough but usually the dogs and the owners work it out without going to the owners Scott and Laura or to their various employees. Their employees keep a close watch on things though.

You should give DDRR a try as Barefoot wrote is a a wonderful place to take your dog. You do have to keep an eye on the new dogs coming in and watch out for other things that may be in play which you would have to do pretty much anywhere else as well.

[Taltarzac725]

https://youtu.be/5fE_h84b3ws

This YouTube will give you an idea of Doggie Doo Run Run if you have not been there before.

[Barefoot]

https://youtu.be/5fE_h84b3ws

This YouTube will give you an idea of Doggie Doo Run Run if you have not been there before.

Nice Tal (and Kirby). That video was taken six years ago.
Since the video, the owners have added a pool for dogs which is fenced and covered.
More of a soaking pool than a swimming pool, but dogs seem to love it.

Our dogs beg to go to DDRR daily - it means the world to them. And we're happy to oblige.
It's a great place, the staff is congenial, and we've made many friends there.

[Taltarzac725]

Nice Tal (and Kirby). That video was taken six years ago.
Since the video, the owners have added a pool for dogs which is fenced and covered.
More of a soaking pool than a swimming pool, but dogs seem to love it.

Our dogs beg to go to DDRR daily - it means the world to them. And we're happy to oblige.
It's a great place, the staff is congenial, and we've made many friends there.

That was a very nice Doberman Pinscher from six years ago. I believe she/he passed a while back but remember the dog fondly. A lot of smaller dogs did chase it around. I do not remember its name.

I go there almost every day too unless Beau is not feeling well or I am or we have some kind of appointment.

[CFrance]

Nice Tal (and Kirby). That video was taken six years ago.
Since the video, the owners have added a pool for dogs which is fenced and covered.
More of a soaking pool than a swimming pool, but dogs seem to love it.

Our dogs beg to go to DDRR daily - it means the world to them. And we're happy to oblige.
It's a great place, the staff is congenial, and we've made many friends there.
Perhaps a bit small for some breeds! But all some big lugs need are a bit of water and a tennis ball.

[Barefoot]

Perhaps a bit small for some breeds! But all some big lugs need are a bit of water and a tennis ball.
Crosby loves to soak in the pool. I wish his mom would take him to DDRR more often. :evil6:

[CFrance]

Crosby loves to soak in the pool. I wish his mom would take him to DDRR more often. :evil6:
You wanna pay for the next surgery??:kiss:

[Barefoot]

You wanna pay for the next surgery??:kiss: No, I don't wanna pay for the next surgery, the last one cost a fortune! $$$$$ :doggie:

[Taltarzac725]

Missed Doggie Doo Run Run today because of the need to make sure I got some of Beau's poop for his annual check-up at Buffalo Ridge Animal Hospital. He had fun at the vet except for the exam which he gets very nervous about. Friendly people there at Buffalo Ridge.

Beau sometimes eats his poop before I can get it at DDRR so I had to make sure he was on a long leashed walk so that I could get the poop for the fecal exam for heart worms.

I forgot to ask the vet about dogs eating poop but from the research I have done there is not a whole lot that can be done about it except for what I have already tried like sprinkling Adolph's Meat Tenderizer on his food. A trick I got from a lady at DDRR who used to work for some vet offices up in CT. Jon Snow lives!!!

[CritterLover]

Missed Doggie Doo Run Run today because of the need to make sure I got some of Beau's poop for his annual check-up at Buffalo Ridge Animal Hospital. He had fun at the vet except for the exam which he gets very nervous about. Friendly people there at Buffalo Ridge.

Beau sometimes eats his poop before I can get it at DDRR so I had to make sure he was on a long leashed walk so that I could get the poop for the fecal exam for heart worms.

I forgot to ask the vet about dogs eating poop but from the research I have done there is not a whole lot that can be done about it except for what I have already tried like sprinkling Adolph's Meat Tenderizer on his food. A trick I got from a lady at DDRR who used to work for some vet offices up in CT. Jon Snow lives!!!

A vet told me years ago regarding a pup we rescued from a puppy mill, that many believe it's engrained in them as a way to prevent predators from tracking them or, in the case of a mama pup, to remove traces of her puppies for their safety from predators, she also eats their's. Survival of the fittest, but EWWWWWW!

[Polar Bear]

...beau sometimes eats his poop...

tmi. :)

[Susan G]

Beau sometimes eats his poop before I can get it at DDRR so I had to make sure he was on a long leashed walk so that I could get the poop for the fecal exam for heart worms.!

Fecals are used to check for various parasites: hookworms, roundworms, tapes, etc. but not Heartworms Taltarzac. Beau needs a seperate HW test which is a blood draw from his fore paw. :-)

[Nucky]

Missed Doggie Doo Run Run today because of the need to make sure I got some of Beau's poop for his annual check-up at Buffalo Ridge Animal Hospital. He had fun at the vet except for the exam which he gets very nervous about. Friendly people there at Buffalo Ridge.

Beau sometimes eats his poop before I can get it at DDRR so I had to make sure he was on a long leashed walk so that I could get the poop for the fecal exam for heart worms.

I forgot to ask the vet about dogs eating poop but from the research I have done there is not a whole lot that can be done about it except for what I have already tried like sprinkling Adolph's Meat Tenderizer on his food. A trick I got from a lady at DDRR who used to work for some vet offices up in CT. Jon Snow lives!!!

Tal isn't it rough chasing the dog around to get the sample? How do you keep up with the little guy? It must be nasty holding the bag under the poor doggy while he poops! By the way...wonderful name for your dog. Is that short for Beauregard? Very Royal Sounding.

[Taltarzac725]

Fecals are used to check for various parasites: hookworms, roundworms, tapes, etc. but not Heartworms Taltarzac. Beau needs a seperate HW test which is a blood draw from his fore paw. :-)

They did that too.

[Taltarzac725]

Tal isn't it rough chasing the dog around to get the sample? How do you keep up with the little guy? It must be nasty holding the bag under the poor doggy while he poops! By the way...wonderful name for your dog. Is that short for Beauregard? Very Royal Sounding.

He came with that name from the foster parents as he is a rescue from Max's Pet Connection which got him from the Inverness Animal Shelter. He is a very affectionate little guy so Beau fit. The dog catcher had nabbed him on 2/19/2014 in Meadowcrest in Crystal River and Max's Pet Connection rescued him sometime after that.

[Taltarzac725]

I am a little angry as Harlow was back again today. Either Jade's owner did not back me up or Scott and Laura did not think this was serious enough to ban Harlow from Doggie Doo Run Run.

I just did smaller circuits in the back field a very good distance from Harlow and Jade and their two female owners.

It is that or start going somewhere else with Beau as my personal safety is very important to me.

I did not risk finding out if Harlow's owner has the dog under control now as she certainly did not last Friday.

Just in case this seems to reflect some prejudice on my part about pit bull mixes; I have never had a problem with Jade which seems like a very gentle pooch.

This is the only complaint I have made against a dog at Doggie Doo Run Run in the nine years + I have been going there so I am not just doing this for attention or some other reason like an agenda. I really was scared for my personal safety last Friday. https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/1207071-post1.html

[kittygilchrist]

2 cents.
Dogs know when your guard is up..
My large dog is perfectly friendly with workers who come here unless...new people do not acknowledge her when they come in, or they hold their toolbox or briefcase up in fear.
I have learned to ask them to not use barriers and say hello to her.

Otherwise, she may start barking and keep at it til they leave, as if to say, if you can't trust me, then I can't trust you.

[kittygilchrist]

4 cents, cumulative.
I have known greatly affectionate pits, rotties, shepherds, dobies, chows.
Also, meanies and surprise attackers.
I never approach any of them without their initiating contact or the owners reassurance.
And never fail to be their friend if they want to be.

Dogs decide who they like as dog friends and people friends. The best dog may encounter someone who freaks them out. It happened to me. A professional trainer was behind me with her shepherd on a leather leash when the dog bit me on the derrier, never had done that before. Go figure.

[kittygilchrist]

6 cents, a dollar.

I go to isolated parks with none to three other dogs.

If there is one other dog, keep mine on lead, observe the other dog.

Small dog, playful, not charging mine, ok...off with leash.

Two large dogs teaming and charging. Stand ground, between my dog and the others, yell at owners. Leave when other dogs go to their mommy. Never unleashed my dog that time.

New dog comes in, leash up. Observe.

Don't ask where I go, I am too selfish to tell you.

And Tal, you gave me an idea. I should do laps, but other dogs might see that as challenging.

[Taltarzac725]

2 cents.
Dogs know when your guard is up..
My large dog is perfectly friendly with workers who come here unless...new people do not acknowledge her when they come in, or they hold their toolbox or briefcase up in fear.
I have learned to ask them to not use barriers and say hello to her.

Otherwise, she may start barking and keep at it til they leave, as if to say, if you can't trust me, then I can't trust you.

My guard was not up though. Something else was going on last Friday. I will just avoid Harlow and its owner as much as possible. This is an aggressive and protective dog AND a pit bull/boxer mix or that is what it looks like to me.

I am afraid that this is not the last you will hear of Harlow and Doggie Doo Run Run.

[Taltarzac725]

Nuts*(1987) - Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/nuts/)

The heart of the matter is a dog threatening a certain precious part of the male anatomy if you get too close to its owner while you are just trying to get exercise at a private dog park. This is in the exercise area of the dog park- the five acre back field.


After a good rain some of the glass from a previous business in this area-- I had heard some kind of mill from Joe and Scott-- comes to the surface in the dirt area of the back field. I often walk around looking for this glass to prevent injury to the pets. I have found some large pieces over the years and many much smaller ones. Only a few though that looking like they could cause a cut to a pooch.

That is what I was doing on April 1, 2015 looking for glass which I mentioned to Jade and Harlow's owners the first time I passed them where they were visiting at the picnic table. The second pass is when I put my hand out to try to pet Harlow and the dog became hostile. The third pass was when Harlow sounded liked he wanted to take a bite out of anything he could reach.

This kind of aggression from a dog does not belong in ANY dog park and if acted on by the dog and which causes injury to the person puts the owners' of the dog park in legal jeopardy to a lawsuit caused by any such action of that dog especially if the owners' have been notified in advance that this dog is aggressive and protective of its owner.

[Taltarzac725]

Nuts*(1987) - Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/nuts/)

The heart of the matter is a dog threatening a certain precious part of the male anatomy if you get too close to its owner while you are just trying to get exercise at a private dog park. This is in the exercise area of the dog park- the five acre back field.


After a good rain some of the glass from a previous business in this area-- I had heard some kind of mill from Joe and Scott-- comes to the surface in the dirt area of the back field. I often walk around looking for this glass to prevent injury to the pets. I have found some large pieces over the years and many much smaller ones. Only a few though that looking like they could cause a cut to a pooch.

That is what I was doing on April 1, 2015 looking for glass which I mentioned to Jade and Harlow's owners the first time I passed them where they were visiting at the picnic table. The second pass is when I put my hand out to try to pet Harlow and the dog became hostile. The third pass was when Harlow sounded liked he wanted to take a bite out of anything he could reach.

This kind of aggression from a dog does not belong in ANY dog park and if acted on by the dog and which causes injury to the person puts the owners' of the dog park in legal jeopardy to a lawsuit caused by any such action of that dog especially if the owners' have been notified in advance that this dog is aggressive and protective of its owner.

A Negligent Dog Owner's Liability | Nolo.com (http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/a-negligent-dog-owners-liability.html)

I will be trying to avoid Harlow as much as possible while still enjoying Doggie Doo Run Run.

[xcaligirl]

Aggressive behavior is not acceptable ~ not everyone will know NOT to walk past a dog at any dog park! Nobody should have to alter his walk because a dog has a problem. Just my opinion!

[xcaligirl]

You are definitely not the problem! I've been attacked by a dog before at a dog park in Californis so I fully understand what you're saying! An aggressive dog should NOT be allowed at a dog park! Unfortunately since I've been attacked and since my dog has also been attacked, we won't even go to dog parks anymore. Our neighbors dog was attacked at Mulberry Dog park.

[Taltarzac725]

Aggressive behavior is not acceptable ~ not everyone will know NOT to walk past a dog at any dog park! Nobody should have to alter his walk because a dog has a problem. Just my opinion!

My Brazilian-American former sister-in-law, Susan, got bit by a dog when she was a tween/teen and never got over it. I remember she had problems with our Dalmatian Ashes even though Ashes was quite sweet. Unless you got out of bed and your female owner-- my Mom-- was still in bed. My Dad found out the hard way that he is not going to back in bed with a very protective Dalmatian guarding her. That was in a private home though and Ashes was good for the most part playing with other dogs and people.

I feel for you xcaligirl. I would feel very different around dogs if I got bit by one and if one seriously maimed me-- which pit bull mixes can do very quickly-- then I would probably be scared of most dogs for the rest of my life. Our dog now is a great source of stress relief.

This is Ashes:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/taltarzac725/Ashes1982001_zps04698c9d.jpg (http://s89.photobucket.com/user/taltarzac725/media/Ashes1982001_zps04698c9d.jpg.html)

[Taltarzac725]

I have been going a few other places than Doggie Doo Run Run with Beau of late. It is nice to see the smiles I get from some people. Beau seems to be popular.

There was even a Dalmatian that looked a little bit like Ashes our pet from around 1973-1990 or thereabouts. Her picture is in the post above. I do like seeing Dalmatians but know each one has a different personality.

[Taltarzac725]

Nice quite morning at Doggie Doo Run Run today.

My friend Whit told me a funny story Saturday and it is a scene from a Peter Sellers' movie.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iguu-rAdAI4

There are pooches here in the Villages that I would not dare trying to pet and it is usually smaller dogs which will bite. Of course, the bigger dogs can do a whole lot more damage than the smaller ones.

[Taltarzac725]

Doggie Doo Run Run seems to be back to the well run place it has been the more than nine years I have been going there. Not sure what happened with the problem with Harlow. If anyone has any reliable information send me a private message. Just want to re-iterate that I never had any problem with Jade the pit bull mix nor with her nice owner.

[Taltarzac725]

https://www.cesarsway.com/dog-behavior/aggression/understanding-aggression

This looks like a good article on dog aggression by Cesar Milan.

And something else by Robin Tierney.

Dog Tip: Aggression, Growling, Lunging at Dogs and People Outdoors (http://www.paw-rescue.org/PAW/PETTIPS/DogTip_AggressionToApproachingDogsAndPeople)

[Taltarzac725]

https://www.cesarsway.com/dog-behavior/aggression/understanding-aggression

This looks like a good article on dog aggression by Cesar Milan.

And something else by Robin Tierney.

Dog Tip: Aggression, Growling, Lunging at Dogs and People Outdoors (http://www.paw-rescue.org/PAW/PETTIPS/DogTip_AggressionToApproachingDogsAndPeople)

Harlow was back to Doggie Doo Run Run today. Did not seem to have any problems with anyone. If the owner can keep the dog under control I would not have a problem with it.

I did keep my distance though from Harlow and the owner of the dog.

[Taltarzac725]

No problems at Doggie Doo Run Run over the last week. I just avoid Harlow.

There was a dog today that was quite excited by the golf balls in my pocket. I just carry these for defense. I have heard they use them out West to scare off coyotes by tossing them at them. Actually it is Chicago. Geneva Adopts Plan to "Haze" Coyotes | NBC Chicago (http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/geneva-coyotes-296849361.html) At night, I often carry some too in case a coyote or other critter comes after Beau. I stay away from the ponds as I doubt if they would work all that well with an alligator or anything else with a very tough exterior.

How to haze a coyote (without being mean) | MNN - Mother Nature Network (http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/blogs/how-to-haze-a-coyote-without-being-mean)

I think I would try other things before throwing the golf balls at the coyote like blowing the whistle I usually carry as well as yelling and just acting like a crazy human as the above linked article suggests.

[Jima64]

You are definitely not the problem! I've been attacked by a dog before at a dog park in Californis so I fully understand what you're saying! An aggressive dog should NOT be allowed at a dog park! Unfortunately since I've been attacked and since my dog has also been attacked, we won't even go to dog parks anymore. Our neighbors dog was attacked at Mulberry Dog park.

Dog owner and the park operator should be held accountable for any injuries.

[Taltarzac725]

Dog owner and the park operator should be held accountable for any injuries.

They probably have insurance to cover injuries and lawsuits coming out of them.

I would think that injury to a man's or woman's private parts by a dog known to be protective of its owner as well as aggressive would be quite a high judgment in settlement or by the jury. The management of dog bite injuries of genitalia in paediatric age Bertozzi M, Appignani A - Afr J Paediatr Surg (http://www.afrjpaedsurg.org/article.asp?issn=0189-6725;year=2013;volume=10;issue=3;spage=205;epage=2 10;aulast=Bertozzi)

My former pooch was bitten in the butt quite deeply by a dog named Jesse James in the Summer of 2007 at Doggie Doo Run Run. The owners had adopted recently Jesse James and were mortified when Jesse James and their other pooch mistook Sport for a rabbit. Jesse James was the dog who bit him though. The owners of the dog were honest and offered to pay the vet bill but we declined as it was not much and the dogs were banned form Doggie Doo Run Run. They were about five dogs who were running at Sport but Jesse James and his companion were the ones in the lead of the pack.

I quit going into the big dog section as well as the back field for about six months with Sport but he wanted to go back there so I eventually started going back to the back field and the big dog section.

By-in-large the owners of Doggie Doo Run Run do a good job of booting the aggressive and protective dogs out but from talking to people it sounds like they actually need to cause injury of some kind before they are kicked out of the dog park like Jesse James.

A late friend of mine from Doggie Doo Run Run -- Bill Davis-- spoke to the owner of Jesse James-- a waitress at the Cracker Barrel on 441/27 near Lady Lake-- who still felt quite bad about the attack of Sport. This was around 2007 however.

Back to the Harlow April 1, 2016 problem. One of the women at the picnic table did tell Harlow that you do not have to be protective of us when Harlow was acting like he was going to attack me when only a foot or so from my waist and barking loudly and angrily.

I do know when a dog is becoming defensive of its owner. I was very disappointed when the woman I know and like did not stand up for me by having her friend leash and take the dog Harlow out of the park when it was acting like that. It is mostly up to the dog's owner to get control of the dog and get it out of situations quickly where it might cause harm especially if it is threatening possible injury to a man's privates which could be fatal depending on the severity of the injury and how quickly an ambulance can get to the place where the attack happened.

[outlaw]

You're obsessing. Let it go. You have 5 acres from which to choose. Pick out one that doesn't have the aggressive dog.

[Taltarzac725]

You're obsessing. Let it go. You have 5 acres from which to choose. Pick out one that doesn't have the aggressive dog.

I have been doing that when Harlow is there. I do believe that if Harlow acts that way around me, he/she will also do the same around other men who may not know better than to keep their distance from Harlow.

Harlow has barked aggressively at other people even one of the pooper scoopers. Its owner is friendly with people and says she is in control of Harlow. It only takes one instance when Harlow is not reigned in.

I do not worry about the small dogs that are sometimes aggressive as they seldom do much damage but a protective aggressive dog whose jaws are at hip level to most men does upset me.