View Full Version : Obama being the fool on the international stage....again.
Guest
04-04-2016, 02:07 PM
While Iran violates the agreement every day since the signing, the USA is expediting loosening more sanctions every day to get American dollars into the Iranian economy.
They cross the line regularly. We say well if we give them a little more they will do what we want (hope).
They in turn threaten to ignore and pull out of the agreement. They threaten each time we do not do their bidding.
They know they have a mouse in the WH that wants to be seen as the USA/Iran peacemaker. They know they could crap on his plate and he will find a reason why it was OK.
Just read these articles and think about who holds the cards. Hint; it is not Obama and the USA!!!
The other legacy of Obama’s that we do not hear much about. The laughing stock he was during his nuclear boon dogle. The laughing stock Iran is making of us. And then there are the biggest laughers of all…..Russia and China.
Iran: U.S. Violating Nuke Deal (http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-u-s-violating-nuke-deal/)
Iranian military official warns US: Stay away from Iran's red lines - Middle East - Jerusalem Post (http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-News/Iranian-military-official-warns-US-Stay-away-from-Irans-red-lines-450191)
Iranian military official warns US: Stay away from Iran's red lines - Middle East - Jerusalem Post (http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-News/Iranian-military-official-warns-US-Stay-away-from-Irans-red-lines-450191)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/04/04/navy-iranian-weapons-confiscated-at-sea-and-its-the-third-time-in-two-months/
Guest
04-04-2016, 02:28 PM
While Iran violates the agreement every day since the signing, the USA is expediting loosening more sanctions every day to get American dollars into the Iranian economy.
They cross the line regularly. We say well if we give them a little more they will do what we want (hope).
They in turn threaten to ignore and pull out of the agreement. They threaten each time we do not do their bidding.
They know they have a mouse in the WH that wants to be seen as the USA/Iran peacemaker. They know they could crap on his plate and he will find a reason why it was OK.
Just read these articles and think about who holds the cards. Hint; it is not Obama and the USA!!!
The other legacy of Obama’s that we do not hear much about. The laughing stock he was during his nuclear boon dogle. The laughing stock Iran is making of us. And then there are the biggest laughers of all…..Russia and China.
Iran: U.S. Violating Nuke Deal (http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-u-s-violating-nuke-deal/)
Iranian military official warns US: Stay away from Iran's red lines - Middle East - Jerusalem Post (http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-News/Iranian-military-official-warns-US-Stay-away-from-Irans-red-lines-450191)
Iranian military official warns US: Stay away from Iran's red lines - Middle East - Jerusalem Post (http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-News/Iranian-military-official-warns-US-Stay-away-from-Irans-red-lines-450191)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/04/04/navy-iranian-weapons-confiscated-at-sea-and-its-the-third-time-in-two-months/Spare us the drama. Who holds the cards?
Guest
04-04-2016, 03:06 PM
Spare us the drama. Who holds the cards?
Speak for yourself. You. Don't have to read it.
However to answer the snide implication we all know Iran holds the cards.....they act accordingly.......and so does the sympathizer in the WH.
Guest
04-04-2016, 03:16 PM
Speak for yourself. You. Don't have to read it.
However to answer the snide implication we all know Iran holds the cards.....they act accordingly.......and so does the sympathizer in the WH.
Yep and we all know he's a secret muslim. If you don't believe me why not ask Trump? :rolleyes:
Turn off Fox News. Do you know how much you're embarrassing your kids?
Guest
04-04-2016, 04:28 PM
Spare us the drama. Who holds the cards?
Dear Guest: Apparently you did not read what the OP presented. The answer to your question of who holds the cards is Iran, Cuba, Russia, China, .......anyone but the USA thanks to Obama's manifest incompetence. Actually he is strangling on his own ideology and he rather be right than president, except that he is wrong and he is president
Admit it you made a mistake, not once, but twice voting JV when you thought he was varsity.
Personal Best Regards:
Guest
04-04-2016, 06:16 PM
Yep and we all know he's a secret muslim. If you don't believe me why not ask Trump? :rolleyes:
Turn off Fox News. Do you know how much you're embarrassing your kids?
Where is the :swear: bite me emoticon?
Guest
04-04-2016, 07:14 PM
Dear Guest: Apparently you did not read what the OP presented. The answer to your question of who holds the cards is Iran, Cuba, Russia, China, .......anyone but the USA thanks to Obama's manifest incompetence. Actually he is strangling on his own ideology and he rather be right than president, except that he is wrong and he is president
Admit it you made a mistake, not once, but twice voting JV when you thought he was varsity.
Personal Best Regards:
When you read an Op, don't you ever consider the source? In what world would articles from a writer from the Washington Jewish Week, and the Jerusalem Post not be considered biased. That world would be the "blame Obama for everything world."
One article the Iranians are blaming Obama for trying to undermined the agreement by holding back funds from Iran. The other article states that Obama is purposely trying to undermine the agreement so he can give more concessions to Iran. Those goals aren't completely opposite!
Let's hear from an expert on the Iranian deal, Trump. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/24/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-iran-military-will-have-nuclear/
The Iranians aren't living in a dream world. Iran is testing ballistic missiles from a safe distance away from Israel. If Iran fires a ballistic missile at Israel, they are history. If Israel thinks that they have a nuclear bomb, they are history.
One of the things Obama was completely wrong about was the Republicans wouldn't oppose everything he put forward even if the proposal was a past Republican belief.
Guest
04-04-2016, 07:26 PM
When you read an Op, don't you ever consider the source? In what world would articles from a writer from the Washington Jewish Week, and the Jerusalem Post not be considered biased. That world would be the "blame Obama for everything world."
One article the Iranians are blaming Obama for trying to undermined the agreement by holding back funds from Iran. The other article states that Obama is purposely trying to undermine the agreement so he can give more concessions to Iran. Those goals aren't completely opposite!
Let's hear from an expert on the Iranian deal, Trump. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/24/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-iran-military-will-have-nuclear/
The Iranians aren't living in a dream world. Iran is testing ballistic missiles from a safe distance away from Israel. If Iran fires a ballistic missile at Israel, they are history. If Israel thinks that they have a nuclear bomb, they are history.
One of the things Obama was completely wrong about was the Republicans wouldn't oppose everything he put forward even if the proposal was a past Republican belief.
thank-you
Guest
04-05-2016, 05:54 AM
When you read an Op, don't you ever consider the source? In what world would articles from a writer from the Washington Jewish Week, and the Jerusalem Post not be considered biased. That world would be the "blame Obama for everything world."
One article the Iranians are blaming Obama for trying to undermined the agreement by holding back funds from Iran. The other article states that Obama is purposely trying to undermine the agreement so he can give more concessions to Iran. Those goals aren't completely opposite!
Let's hear from an expert on the Iranian deal, Trump. Donald Trump says Iran military will have nuclear weapons as soon as enrichment limits expire | PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/24/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-iran-military-will-have-nuclear/)
The Iranians aren't living in a dream world. Iran is testing ballistic missiles from a safe distance away from Israel. If Iran fires a ballistic missile at Israel, they are history. If Israel thinks that they have a nuclear bomb, they are history.
One of the things Obama was completely wrong about was the Republicans wouldn't oppose everything he put forward even if the proposal was a past Republican belief.
It must be tiring to have to defend the un-defendable all the time. To defend a very weak president all the time. When are you going to wake up to the fact that he is inept and will not surround himself with good advisers. He refuses to listen to anyone else, thinking that he is smarter than anyone else. But, you will make the same mistake again, by voting for Hillary or Sanders. Some folks must need to feel persecuted and defensive. It does not take the number one cable news network to recognize a failure in the White House. Anyone with common sense and logic can tell without watching FOX that Obama is a major disappointment, even for the Democrats.
Guest
04-05-2016, 07:05 AM
Yep and we all know he's a secret muslim. If you don't believe me why not ask Trump? :rolleyes:
Turn off Fox News. Do you know how much you're embarrassing your kids?
You've got it all wrong. Just because Obama is a Muslim by birth, does not mean he is a believer. How can someone with such a gigantic ego believe in any deity other than himself?
FOX news thanks you for making it such a success and the highest rated cable news network. If not for you liberals watching, it would just be another, average network. Where else would you go to get your current events?
Guest
04-05-2016, 07:23 AM
You've got it all wrong. Just because Obama is a Muslim by birth, does not mean he is a believer. How can someone with such a gigantic ego believe in any deity other than himself?
FOX news thanks you for making it such a success and the highest rated cable news network. If not for you liberals watching, it would just be another, average network. Where else would you go to get your current events?
How do the Fox accusors/abusers know so much about Fox content and what is said by whom and when?
Guest
04-05-2016, 07:36 AM
How do the Fox accusors/abusers know so much about Fox content and what is said by whom and when?
Because someone told them that's the way it is.
You know, like religion, politics, education, equality...all full of lies, but people still believe it...because someone they "trust" told them that's how it is.
Guest
04-05-2016, 07:46 AM
I read and watch both sides. Most people are on thee threads are not open minded enough to listen and read opposing viewpoints even if their childrens and grandchildrens lives depended on making wise choices. They are afraid they might be wrong. They get it confused with faith.
Guest
04-05-2016, 07:50 AM
I read and watch both sides. Most people are on thee threads are not open minded enough to listen and read opposing viewpoints even if their childrens and grandchildrens lives depended on making wise choices. They are afraid they might be wrong. They get it confused with faith.
Or they merely use the tough guy party loyalist, no way but my party in public just to be one of the pack or just save face.
In the confines of their very own whatever or the voting booth some actually do the right thing and go with the opposition's better candidate.
Guest
04-05-2016, 07:58 AM
Or they merely use the tough guy party loyalist, no way but my party in public just to be one of the pack or just save face.
In the confines of their very own whatever or the voting booth some actually do the right thing and go with the opposition's better candidate.They are logged in as a guest. Someone can't be honest even logged in as a guest?
That doesn't take any balls.
Guest
04-05-2016, 08:13 AM
Or they merely use the tough guy party loyalist, no way but my party in public just to be one of the pack or just save face.
In the confines of their very own whatever or the voting booth some actually do the right thing and go with the opposition's better candidate.
Unfortunately, they choose another liar and thief. Should have voted for REAL opposition, a Libertarian or 3rd party.
They're afraid of wasting their vote on someone who can't win, when the act of casting that vote puts them one vote closer to winning. If everyone stopped being fooled by the D and R party mantra that "only one of them can win", maybe, just maybe we COULD get our country back.
Vote your conscience, not who you're told to vote for. Don't guess the winner, help make YOUR guy the winner.
Guest
04-05-2016, 08:36 AM
Unfortunately, they choose another liar and thief. Should have voted for REAL opposition, a Libertarian or 3rd party.
They're afraid of wasting their vote on someone who can't win, when the act of casting that vote puts them one vote closer to winning. If everyone stopped being fooled by the D and R party mantra that "only one of them can win", maybe, just maybe we COULD get our country back.
Vote your conscience, not who you're told to vote for. Don't guess the winner, help make YOUR guy the winner.Well said. We have two 3rd party candidates running as a democrat and a republican. Their constituents are angry about the status quo and the fact that the D & R is funded by the same people.
It's like betting on both boxers if it doesn't matter to you how much it costs. You win either way.
Guest
04-05-2016, 08:48 AM
Well said. We have two 3rd party candidates running as a democrat and a republican. Their constituents are angry about the status quo and the fact that the D & R is funded by the same people.
It's like betting on both boxers if it doesn't matter to you how much it costs. You win either way.
That's what the corporations do. They play both sides and are rewarded either way. Either candidate will "pay them back" when the time comes. The ONLY difference between the two parties are social issues. One "religious" conservative the other liberal. Seeing what has happened during the last 50 years, we've been run by the liberal thinking. It hasn't worked, not at all. Maybe it's time the pendulum started swinging back the other way. I'm not religious, but I like the conservative values more than the "diversified" non values (except equality) of the liberals. Equality is a ruse, a sham, it doesn't exist in the real world.
Guest
04-05-2016, 09:03 AM
That's what the corporations do. They play both sides and are rewarded either way. Either candidate will "pay them back" when the time comes. The ONLY difference between the two parties are social issues. One "religious" conservative the other liberal. Seeing what has happened during the last 50 years, we've been run by the liberal thinking. It hasn't worked, not at all. Maybe it's time the pendulum started swinging back the other way. I'm not religious, but I like the conservative values more than the "diversified" non values (except equality) of the liberals. Equality is a ruse, a sham, it doesn't exist in the real world.
This is towards the end of my life. I'm not leaving my kids millions. Like the rest of you I worked hard starting with a paper route at 12. I think my first real vacation was in college and I had a tuition scholarship based on test scores, GA and financial need. So I got helped and paid a lot of taxes in return. That's how the system worked with the middle class, win,win. All that I have is because of FDR. He got my parents out of the depression and my parents did the rest. They did better than their parents and I did better then them. That's how it always used to be.
I'll roll the dice on someone like Sanders to do it again. He's no richer then I am, just older. I don't understand where he finds the energy.
Guest
04-05-2016, 09:28 AM
It must be tiring to have to defend the un-defendable all the time. To defend a very weak president all the time. When are you going to wake up to the fact that he is inept and will not surround himself with good advisers. He refuses to listen to anyone else, thinking that he is smarter than anyone else. But, you will make the same mistake again, by voting for Hillary or Sanders. Some folks must need to feel persecuted and defensive. It does not take the number one cable news network to recognize a failure in the White House. Anyone with common sense and logic can tell without watching FOX that Obama is a major disappointment, even for the Democrats.
It must be hard to know that you have to criticize, condemn, and complain non stop about Obama. Of that, the right has no equal. If he doesn't listen to anyone else, where did all the grey hair come from? If you think that you are always right, you have nothing to worry about. No worries equals no grey hair.
Didn't Obama's approval rating just exceed 50%? Maybe the lack of common sense is thinking that everything he does is wrong.
You want to talk about major disappointment talk about both houses of Congress. That is where most of the problems are, and are going to stay. They can't even agree on the time of day.
Concerning people watching cable news, it is the over 60 crowd. Half of Fox News' Viewers Are 68 and Older - The Atlantic (http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/01/half-of-fox-news-viewers-are-68-and-older/283385/)
I guess people under 60 don't have the luxury of sitting on their dead rumps, and watch what passes for news now.
Guest
04-05-2016, 10:00 AM
It must be tiring to have to defend the un-defendable all the time. To defend a very weak president all the time. When are you going to wake up to the fact that he is inept and will not surround himself with good advisers. He refuses to listen to anyone else, thinking that he is smarter than anyone else. But, you will make the same mistake again, by voting for Hillary or Sanders. Some folks must need to feel persecuted and defensive. It does not take the number one cable news network to recognize a failure in the White House. Anyone with common sense and logic can tell without watching FOX that Obama is a major disappointment, even for the Democrats.
You are going to love Hillary.
Guest
04-05-2016, 10:50 AM
You are going to love Hillary.
Not in a million years and if she was the only female left on the planet and my guts were on fire and she had the only hose!!!
Guest
04-05-2016, 11:00 AM
Not in a million years and if she was the only female left on the planet and my guts were on fire and she had the only hose!!!
Well, you are just going to have to crawl back under your rock for the next 8 years. Slither away, now!
Guest
04-05-2016, 12:03 PM
You are going to love Hillary.
I'll love seeing her change from her orange pants suit to her new orange jump suit. :clap2:...:1rotfl:
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