View Full Version : How about SS and medicare for the illegals? Obama says why not and is doing it!
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04-06-2016, 09:39 PM
Obama Claims Power to Make Illegal Immigrants Eligible for Social Security, Disability (http://cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-claims-power-make-illegal-immigrants-eligible-social-security)
Proof positive he is a raving activist on a mission to destroy the USA.
If his health care ram job does not bankrupt the country he just thought he would add a little more debt to the pile.
C'mon even you liberals who donated all your lives to SS so you could get some back in your old age.....cannot support your beloved president who is willing to give the same benfit to millions who are here illegally.
Obama; the best thing that ever happened to mexican illegal aliens.
He will surely have a more positive legacy in Mexico than here in the USA.
The man is an absolute fool unleashed!!
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04-07-2016, 03:50 AM
Obama Claims Power to Make Illegal Immigrants Eligible for Social Security, Disability (http://cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-claims-power-make-illegal-immigrants-eligible-social-security)
Proof positive he is a raving activist on a mission to destroy the USA.
If his health care ram job does not bankrupt the country he just thought he would add a little more debt to the pile.
C'mon even you liberals who donated all your lives to SS so you could get some back in your old age.....cannot support your beloved president who is willing to give the same benfit to millions who are here illegally.
Obama; the best thing that ever happened to mexican illegal aliens.
He will surely have a more positive legacy in Mexico than here in the USA.
The man is an absolute fool unleashed!!
That's a given. But, it didn't take seven years to figure that out.
Guest
04-07-2016, 05:17 AM
Obama Claims Power to Make Illegal Immigrants Eligible for Social Security, Disability (http://cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-claims-power-make-illegal-immigrants-eligible-social-security)
Proof positive he is a raving activist on a mission to destroy the USA.
If his health care ram job does not bankrupt the country he just thought he would add a little more debt to the pile.
C'mon even you liberals who donated all your lives to SS so you could get some back in your old age.....cannot support your beloved president who is willing to give the same benfit to millions who are here illegally.
Obama; the best thing that ever happened to mexican illegal aliens.
He will surely have a more positive legacy in Mexico than here in the USA.
The man is an absolute fool unleashed!!
Look at the blacks on welfare/SS who never paid a dime into anything either. Don't give them a pass.
Guest
04-07-2016, 06:33 AM
Obama Claims Power to Make Illegal Immigrants Eligible for Social Security, Disability (http://cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-claims-power-make-illegal-immigrants-eligible-social-security)
Proof positive he is a raving activist on a mission to destroy the USA.
If his health care ram job does not bankrupt the country he just thought he would add a little more debt to the pile.
C'mon even you liberals who donated all your lives to SS so you could get some back in your old age.....cannot support your beloved president who is willing to give the same benfit to millions who are here illegally.
Obama; the best thing that ever happened to mexican illegal aliens.
He will surely have a more positive legacy in Mexico than here in the USA.
The man is an absolute fool unleashed!!
"Obama claims power"
He has shown consistently his disregard for the democratic process by using his "Executive Action" to solidify his dictatorship. He has been allowed to run free by a useless Congress that cannot escape a 17% approval rating. Our Democratic system is clearly under attack by the "Good Ole Boys" Club.
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04-07-2016, 07:59 AM
Look at the blacks on welfare/SS who never paid a dime into anything either. Don't give them a pass.
Look at your wife on Social Security who ever paid a dime into the system and now collecting half of what you get. Don't give her a pass.
Guest
04-07-2016, 08:06 AM
Look at your wife on Social Security who ever paid a dime into the system and now collecting half of what you get. Don't give her a pass.
Since you brought it up why not state all of the impact of a wife on SS.
Did she ever work?
She is entitled to half of her spouses or what she qualifies for which ever is greater......meaning she contributed as well.
So what is the point you are failing to make?
Guest
04-07-2016, 08:06 AM
Look at your wife on Social Security who ever paid a dime into the system and now collecting half of what you get. Don't give her a pass.
I think you are a bit behind times. Or, what a liberal would call a sexist. Because "wives" have been working full-time jobs for decades. They've been putting into the system also. But, there are still some that do get half of what the husband gets. But, today that also pertains to some husbands that get half of what the wife makes, if she had a better career. But, the point that there are some enjoying the fruits of others' labor is a valid point.
Guest
04-07-2016, 08:19 AM
I think you are a bit behind times. Or, what a liberal would call a sexist. Because "wives" have been working full-time jobs for decades. They've been putting into the system also. But, there are still some that do get half of what the husband gets. But, today that also pertains to some husbands that get half of what the wife makes, if she had a better career. But, the point that there are some enjoying the fruits of others' labor is a valid point.
And has absolutely nothing to do with in any way shape or form with the subject of providing those benefits to non USA citizens, here illegally....other than emotional BS and the usual baiting, nonsensical aggravation.
Guest
04-07-2016, 09:24 AM
And has absolutely nothing to do with in any way shape or form with the subject of providing those benefits to non USA citizens, here illegally....other than emotional BS and the usual baiting, nonsensical aggravation.
:agree:
Guest
04-07-2016, 12:39 PM
Did any of you actually read the article? This is not an "executive action". Obama is stating he will not prosecute, much like the military's former don't ask, don't tell policy. Texas, with other states joining in, are arguing this before the U.S. Supreme Court on the basis that the POTUS is obligated to enforce the laws of the United States. My gut feeling is the Court will rule for Obama since past Presidential acts of refusing to enforce a law have been permitted and have even become the law of the land.
Illegal aliens will still risk deportation. They will NOT be eligible for SSI, welfare, food stamps or other free programs. They would be eligible to legally work, pay taxes, collect earned Social Security, disability -- the same as any worker here. Is it the best idea in town? Nope, but I've seen and heard worse in my lifetime.
Guest
04-07-2016, 12:54 PM
Did any of you actually read the article? This is not an "executive action". Obama is stating he will not prosecute, much like the military's former don't ask, don't tell policy. Texas, with other states joining in, are arguing this before the U.S. Supreme Court on the basis that the POTUS is obligated to enforce the laws of the United States. My gut feeling is the Court will rule for Obama since past Presidential acts of refusing to enforce a law have been permitted and have even become the law of the land.
Illegal aliens will still risk deportation. They will NOT be eligible for SSI, welfare, food stamps or other free programs. They would be eligible to legally work, pay taxes, collect earned Social Security, disability -- the same as any worker here. Is it the best idea in town? Nope, but I've seen and heard worse in my lifetime.
What do you consider "worse?"
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04-07-2016, 12:57 PM
The only/ONLY reason Obama has not been impeached for not doing his job because there would be race riots in the street. Thanks to his inept job performance, it will probably be a long time before anyone in America will be willing to vote for another half-white man for president.
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04-07-2016, 01:01 PM
For one, I consider Reagan's Star Wars program far, far worse. And I think history will be a lot kinder to Obama than you guys are. I don't think he is a particularly good President but I don't think he is the inept, tyrannical traitor many of you seem to think he is.
Red (forgot to sign my first post, sorry)
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04-07-2016, 01:54 PM
For one, I consider Reagan's Star Wars program far, far worse. And I think history will be a lot kinder to Obama than you guys are. I don't think he is a particularly good President but I don't think he is the inept, tyrannical traitor many of you seem to think he is.
Red (forgot to sign my first post, sorry)
Regardless of "other presidents" that are used to defend his terrible job, Obama has circumvented congress with E.O.s and also refused to allow certain laws to be enforced. Regardless of who is to blame for his seven plus years of terrible economy and welfare payments, his encouragement of racial division has set America back many years. Regardless of any wars that he may not be responsible for, his foreign policies were/are terrible. Yes, history will always be kinder to the past, especially to the first black president. Defensive excuses have been and will continue to be used to cover for his inept, lack of ability. It is not his fault totally. He was not prepared for the job, and had no experience or leadership training to rely upon. Obama was/is a failed experiment. He is only considered a traitor by omission and dereliction. Only history will tell whether he has been a catalyst willingly or negligently to America's crippling.
I can understand why liberals in their embarrassment of him, find it necessary to defend their willing accessory to his election.
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04-07-2016, 02:44 PM
I can understand why liberals in their embarrassment of him, find it necessary to defend their willing accessory to his election.
Is that an opinion or a fact?
Guest
04-07-2016, 03:58 PM
For one, I consider Reagan's Star Wars program far, far worse. And I think history will be a lot kinder to Obama than you guys are. I don't think he is a particularly good President but I don't think he is the inept, tyrannical traitor many of you seem to think he is.
Red (forgot to sign my first post, sorry)
The only reason, as you stated, "history will be a lot kinder to Obama", is that our country and Western Civilization could well be Muslim dominated by the time that history is written, and certainly Muslim historians will be kind to one of their own.
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04-07-2016, 05:47 PM
The only reason, as you stated, "history will be a lot kinder to Obama", is that our country and Western Civilization could well be Muslim dominated by the time that history is written, and certainly Muslim historians will be kind to one of their own.
Some people are just buffoons and don't have a clue, and I do mean you!
Guest
04-07-2016, 06:14 PM
Some people are just buffoons and don't have a clue, and I do mean you!
The usual cowardly name calling from way back behind the keyboard!
Guest
04-07-2016, 07:07 PM
The usual cowardly name calling from way back behind the keyboard!
I think that was the longest I've seen for a no insult day.
Guest
04-07-2016, 07:48 PM
The only reason, as you stated, "history will be a lot kinder to Obama", is that our country and Western Civilization could well be Muslim dominated by the time that history is written, and certainly Muslim historians will be kind to one of their own.
:thumbup:
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04-07-2016, 08:38 PM
The only reason, as you stated, "history will be a lot kinder to Obama", is that our country and Western Civilization could well be Muslim dominated by the time that history is written, and certainly Muslim historians will be kind to one of their own.And why is he a Muslim? Because some Muslims, not all, believe if your father is a Muslim, you are a Muslim.
It's that way for Catholics too. You saw the Godfather. Long before the age of consent I was baptized making me a Catholic. My parents figured if I died I would go to heaven and not Limbo.
You do get the chance to change teams. He did. I didn't.
Children understand this. Why pretend you don't?
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04-07-2016, 08:57 PM
And why is he a Muslim? Because some Muslims, not all, believe if your father is a Muslim, you are a Muslim.
It's that way for Catholics too. You saw the Godfather. Long before the age of consent I was baptized making me a Catholic. My parents figured if I died I would go to heaven and not Limbo.
You do get the chance to change teams. He did. I didn't.
Children understand this. Why pretend you don't?
Did you read the post that you responded to? To put this person's brain capacity at the same intellectual level as a child would be to insult the child. He is at a caveman's level. He is not pretending to know what you are talking about. He doesn't know what you are talking about.
If Obama changed his religious belief, he would have changed his name. Children know this. Why pretend you don't?
Guest
04-07-2016, 09:35 PM
If Obama changed his religious belief, he would have changed his name. Children know this. Why pretend you don't?
And why should Obama or I change our names if we are born into one belief and accept another after we are past the age of reason?
Does this have you stumped?
Guest
04-07-2016, 09:45 PM
And why should Obama or I change our names if we are born into one belief and accept another after we are past the age of reason?
Does this have you stumped?
And do you think on the other side of the world, 2000 years ago the disciples were named Matthew, Luke, Paul and John?
Guest
04-08-2016, 12:47 AM
Look at the blacks on welfare/SS who never paid a dime into anything either. Don't give them a pass.
Do you really think its only "the blacks" who are on welfare?
Read it and weep:
Who Gets Food Stamps? White People, Mostly (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/28/food-stamp-demographics_n_6771938.html)
Guest
04-08-2016, 12:51 AM
This is NOT the first time this type of aid was given
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indochina_Migration_and_Refugee_Assistance_Act
The President of the United States was....drum roll please
Gerald R Ford if my memory serves me he was a Republican!!!
Don't you just hate it when we remember the facts?
Guest
04-08-2016, 03:09 AM
This is NOT the first time this type of aid was given
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indochina_Migration_and_Refugee_Assistance_Act
The President of the United States was....drum roll please
Gerald R Ford if my memory serves me he was a Republican!!!
Don't you just hate it when we remember the facts?
No, just surprised that you took the effort to get some new material from your handler. Most of you libtards just repeat the same old mantra, ignorantly.
Guest
04-08-2016, 07:00 AM
Regardless of "other presidents" that are used to defend his terrible job, Obama has circumvented congress with E.O.s and also refused to allow certain laws to be enforced. Regardless of who is to blame for his seven plus years of terrible economy and welfare payments, his encouragement of racial division has set America back many years. Regardless of any wars that he may not be responsible for, his foreign policies were/are terrible. Yes, history will always be kinder to the past, especially to the first black president. Defensive excuses have been and will continue to be used to cover for his inept, lack of ability. It is not his fault totally. He was not prepared for the job, and had no experience or leadership training to rely upon. Obama was/is a failed experiment. He is only considered a traitor by omission and dereliction. Only history will tell whether he has been a catalyst willingly or negligently to America's crippling.
I can understand why liberals in their embarrassment of him, find it necessary to defend their willing accessory to his election.
Would you like to compare the number of signing statements and EO Bush did to Obama....hopefully you know better than to do that!
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04-08-2016, 07:01 AM
No, just surprised that you took the effort to get some new material from your handler. Most of you libtards just repeat the same old mantra, ignorantly.
I always do my research before I post! Insults will get you no where.
Guest
04-08-2016, 07:08 AM
Illegal aliens will still risk deportation. They will NOT be eligible for SSI, welfare, food stamps or other free programs. They would be eligible to legally work, pay taxes, collect earned Social Security, disability -- the same as any worker here. Is it the best idea in town? Nope, but I've seen and heard worse in my lifetime.
Their children, born here, are US citizens and they ARE eligible for welfare, mom goes along for the ride. There was never any welfare reform. Mom lost HER welfare, but it was transferred to the kids, so in the end, it's the same or BETTER than before. A single mother with 4 kids can get benefits equaling $60,000 a year.
The only/ONLY reason Obama has not been impeached for not doing his job because there would be race riots in the street. Thanks to his inept job performance, it will probably be a long time before anyone in America will be willing to vote for another half-white man for president.
Thank God! Shouldn't have voted for that one either. Name me ONE "great" black politician who did good things for ALL, not just blacks.
Do you really think its only "the blacks" who are on welfare?
Read it and weep:
Who Gets Food Stamps? White People, Mostly (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/28/food-stamp-demographics_n_6771938.html)
Here is a study that says your link is wrong.
Welfare: Who (http://www.amren.com/features/2015/10/welfare-whos-on-it-whos-not/)
They say only 23% are white on welfare. Even though we're over 50% of the population. Many welfare reports group hispanics with whites. Blacks AND hispanics both make up the most welfare recipients. Over 50% of recent immigrants receive welfare.
Guest
04-08-2016, 08:18 AM
Would you like to compare the number of signing statements and EO Bush did to Obama....hopefully you know better than to do that!
Go ahead and do it. You will find that he(Bush) didn't circumvent law with his E.O.s. To designate a day or morning, a day of prayer or a day to baseball champions is one thing, but to say, "well if congress is not going to agree with me, I will make my own laws" is illegal and not part of the Executive branch. Now, are you going to use the past presidents actions justification for Obama's failures? And it doesn't matter what president might have done it previously, it's not part of the job, and there is NO excuse for Obama doing it. AND, the Supreme Court agrees with what I said. Obama cannot make law and E.O.s can be voided by the next president.
Guest
04-08-2016, 08:44 AM
Go ahead and do it. You will find that he(Bush) didn't circumvent law with his E.O.s. To designate a day or morning, a day of prayer or a day to baseball champions is one thing, but to say, "well if congress is not going to agree with me, I will make my own laws" is illegal and not part of the Executive branch. Now, are you going to use the past presidents actions justification for Obama's failures? And it doesn't matter what president might have done it previously, it's not part of the job, and there is NO excuse for Obama doing it. AND, the Supreme Court agrees with what I said. Obama cannot make law and E.O.s can be voided by the next president.
What excuse is there for the Republicans opposing EVERYTHING that Obama put forward? EVERYTHING from day one! I guess Mitch McConnell wanted the title "King of he Filibuster".
Obama can't makes laws, but he didn't have to sit by and not do his job, because the Republicans refused to let him.
Guest
04-08-2016, 09:10 AM
Obama can't makes laws, but he didn't have to sit by and not do his job, because the Republicans refused to let him.
What IS his job? Change the country? Bring it down to "their level"? So they can compete? Make us 3rd world too?
The thing you don't get is...it's not him that sets the agenda. He just tells us what it is. It's set elsewhere. Be a convincing script reader, that's his job.
Guest
04-08-2016, 09:12 AM
What excuse is there for the Republicans opposing EVERYTHING that Obama put forward? EVERYTHING from day one! I guess Mitch McConnell wanted the title "King of he Filibuster".
Obama can't makes laws, but he didn't have to sit by and not do his job, because the Republicans refused to let him.
Are you so polarized that your memory does not work?
Do you remember the name Harry Reid? Nothing, NOTHING he thought Obama would not like ever got past his desk. He was notorious for it.
Harry was not just the king of filibuster he was a stop sign...no discussion....if it was from the opposition he automatically put it in the no go drawer.....
Harry Reid remember....nasty old man....party only.....incompetent....
Guest
04-08-2016, 09:13 AM
Obama can't makes laws, but he didn't have to sit by and not do his job, because the Republicans refused to let him.
You think Obama rose to be the most powerful man in the world? You're kidding right. Him? He became the MOST powerful man in the world.
He's a talking head!
Many believe he is gay.
Guest
04-08-2016, 09:43 AM
What excuse is there for the Republicans opposing EVERYTHING that Obama put forward? EVERYTHING from day one! I guess Mitch McConnell wanted the title "King of he Filibuster".
Obama can't makes laws, but he didn't have to sit by and not do his job, because the Republicans refused to let him.
What excuse??? Are you kidding? Of course we oppose just about everything socialist. Are you nuts? He hasn't had hardly a good idea in seven years and you want to know why?? WHY??? Obamacare was his priority and it was a catastrophe. Stealing half a trillion bucks from Medicare to pay for those that don't have health care, was just theft. Have to pass it to find out what's in it, and you think that is smart? And you would vote to pass something that you didn't know what it was?
Obama signed unlawful E.O.s and the Supreme Court told him that. What did he do? He just ignored them. He is an ignorant failure, at best and a radical is probably more accurate.
You liberals and your talking points, blaming his failure on a Republican congress when they had a filibuster proof congress for two years. NO OPPOSITION and they still couldn't get anything right. When have you ever heard another president EVER blame someone else for their failures.....I mean, other than Clinton.
Guest
04-08-2016, 09:48 AM
The ONLY reason that Obama has not been impeached is because they didn't want race riots in the streets of D.C. again. If a Demo-Socialist gets elected by hook or crook, they had better consider this and not try his tactic, because they will be impeached and fired so fast that it will make Nixon look like a choirboy.
Guest
04-08-2016, 10:14 AM
You think Obama rose to be the most powerful man in the world? You're kidding right. Him? He became the MOST powerful man in the world.
He's a talking head!
Many believe he is gay.
That's a new one.
How does your mind work? "Let's see, what's the most disparaging remark I can make about Obama. Muslim, been done,,,half white,,been done,,hmmmm I know, I'll call him gay."
That's pretty funny.
Guest
04-08-2016, 10:22 AM
Go ahead and do it. You will find that he(Bush) didn't circumvent law with his E.O.s. To designate a day or morning, a day of prayer or a day to baseball champions is one thing, but to say, "well if congress is not going to agree with me, I will make my own laws" is illegal and not part of the Executive branch. Now, are you going to use the past presidents actions justification for Obama's failures? And it doesn't matter what president might have done it previously, it's not part of the job, and there is NO excuse for Obama doing it. AND, the Supreme Court agrees with what I said. Obama cannot make law and E.O.s can be voided by the next president.
LOL!!!! Now you are just being silly. Bush had signing statements by which he would not follow parts of a bill he didn't support!
But why don't you explain Bush's EO 13303....did you think we would forget?
Guest
04-08-2016, 10:55 AM
LOL!!!! Now you are just being silly. Bush had signing statements by which he would not follow parts of a bill he didn't support!
But why don't you explain Bush's EO 13303....did you think we would forget?
Is that the best defense for Obama's blunders that you could come with? What law did Bush break by signing that E.O.? What did he do that was illegal?
Are you liberals going to be crybabies every time someone says a legitimate criticism of the Obummer? Are you going ATTEMPT to use other previous presidents record in an ATTEMPT to defend Obummer the failure?
Your feeble attempt was pitiful at best.
Guest
04-08-2016, 10:58 AM
And do you think on the other side of the world, 2000 years ago the disciples were named Matthew, Luke, Paul and John?
...or that Jesus was 6 feet tall, had blue eyes and blonde hair? Most likely, Jesus was around 5 foot 4, dark brown curly hair, brown eyes, and dark olive complexion.
Anyhow, Jesus taught compassion. Remember that when bashing immigrants or minorities.
Guest
04-08-2016, 11:13 AM
...or that Jesus was 6 feet tall, had blue eyes and blonde hair? Most likely, Jesus was around 5 foot 4, dark brown curly hair, brown eyes, and dark olive complexion.
Anyhow, Jesus taught compassion. Remember that when bashing immigrants or minorities.
Oh, so you are going to lecture us on Christianity? What a joke! Who told you that Christians ever suggested that Jesus was blonde with blue eyes? And really, what difference does it make as to what his appearance was? And what does his appearance have to do with the topic of this thread? And what would you know about Christian compassion? It is obvious that you are a non-believer so please don't pretend to be an expert on religion.
Compassion? Where was all your compassion when it came to doing your patriotic duty for your country? Yes, yes, you can come on here and make up any fictitious history you wish. Where is your compassion when it comes to charity donations. I mean other than when you volunteer everyone else's earnings.
Without laws, you have anarchy. Where's your civility when it comes to order? Why should someone be able to jump the line for any purpose? You libtards disparage the wealthy because you feel they have special rights afforded to them due to their wealth, and then turn around and want every minority or vagabond to be able to jump the line when they are undeserving.
Get over yourself. It's easy to have compassion at other people's expense, isn't it?
Guest
04-08-2016, 11:34 AM
Is that the best defense for Obama's blunders that you could come with? What law did Bush break by signing that E.O.? What did he do that was illegal?
Are you liberals going to be crybabies every time someone says a legitimate criticism of the Obummer? Are you going ATTEMPT to use other previous presidents record in an ATTEMPT to defend Obummer the failure?
Your feeble attempt was pitiful at best.
No I think you said Bush's EO were for:
"You will find that he(Bush) didn't circumvent law with his E.O.s. To designate a day or morning, a day of prayer or a day to baseball champions is one thing."
EO 13303 was much more than that...did you think we would forget that the Bush administration would tell the American people that the cost of the Iraq war would be paid back by Iraq oil.
“BUSH SIGNED EXECUTIVE ORDER 13303″ Gave Immunity To Oil Companies in 2003 – ::Broadcatching:: (http://tullycast.com/2006/10/06/bush-signed-executive-order-13303-gave-immunity-to-oil-companies-in-2003/)
I have not called you names nor President Bush names but you on the other hand can do nothing but rant and call the current President names.... Insults get you nowhere!
Guest
04-08-2016, 11:52 AM
No I think you said Bush's EO were for:
"You will find that he(Bush) didn't circumvent law with his E.O.s. To designate a day or morning, a day of prayer or a day to baseball champions is one thing."
EO 13303 was much more than that...did you think we would forget that the Bush administration would tell the American people that the cost of the Iraq war would be paid back by Iraq oil.
“BUSH SIGNED EXECUTIVE ORDER 13303″ Gave Immunity To Oil Companies in 2003 – ::Broadcatching:: (http://tullycast.com/2006/10/06/bush-signed-executive-order-13303-gave-immunity-to-oil-companies-in-2003/)
I have not called you names nor President Bush names but you on the other hand can do nothing but rant and call the current President names.... Insults get you nowhere!
You just reinforced my statement. Bush did NOT circumvent the law with his E.O.s as Obumble has. Nice try though, even if it seems halfhearted at best. Insults to Obummer are warranted, since he has spent seven years insulting me and the rest of America. I do feel sorry for your need to defend him constantly though. It must be very tiring and ungratifying.
Guest
04-08-2016, 12:29 PM
What excuse??? Are you kidding? Of course we oppose just about everything socialist. Are you nuts? He hasn't had hardly a good idea in seven years and you want to know why?? WHY??? Obamacare was his priority and it was a catastrophe. Stealing half a trillion bucks from Medicare to pay for those that don't have health care, was just theft. Have to pass it to find out what's in it, and you think that is smart? And you would vote to pass something that you didn't know what it was?
Obama signed unlawful E.O.s and the Supreme Court told him that. What did he do? He just ignored them. He is an ignorant failure, at best and a radical is probably more accurate.
You liberals and your talking points, blaming his failure on a Republican congress when they had a filibuster proof congress for two years. NO OPPOSITION and they still couldn't get anything right. When have you ever heard another president EVER blame someone else for their failures.....I mean, other than Clinton.
You make statements of facts that aren't facts. This is the fifth time that I posted this article. You conservatives have your talking points that aren't based in reality, but stick to them like glue.
ttp://www.outsidethebeltway.com/did-the-democrats-ever-really-have-60-votes-in-the-senate-and-for-how-long/facts
You don't read it, because it doesn't fit your view of the world. The Great Recession wasn't a failure! What president had to walk into such a deep hole before he took one step into the presidency, and then have the opposing party do EVERYTHING possible to make sure the country stayed in the hole for their own political gains. The party first, the country second.
If Obamacare is such a failure, why aren't the Republican candidates talking about it non stop? That is right! Their wives looks are a much more important issue that millions of uninsured citizens. It is working in the states that want it to work, and not working in states that are doing everything possible to make sure it doesn't work. Whatever happened to "repeal, and replace"?
How stupid do you have to be to see that there isn't a problem when people have to use the emergency ward as your primary care physician?
Guest
04-08-2016, 01:03 PM
You make statements of facts that aren't facts. This is the fifth time that I posted this article. You conservatives have your talking points that aren't based in reality, but stick to them like glue.
ttp://www.outsidethebeltway.com/did-the-democrats-ever-really-have-60-votes-in-the-senate-and-for-how-long/facts
You don't read it, because it doesn't fit your view of the world. The Great Recession wasn't a failure! What president had to walk into such a deep hole before he took one step into the presidency, and then have the opposing party do EVERYTHING possible to make sure the country stayed in the hole for their own political gains. The party first, the country second.
If Obamacare is such a failure, why aren't the Republican candidates talking about it non stop? That is right! Their wives looks are a much more important issue that millions of uninsured citizens. It is working in the states that want it to work, and not working in states that are doing everything possible to make sure it doesn't work. Whatever happened to "repeal, and replace"?
How stupid do you have to be to see that there isn't a problem when people have to use the emergency ward as your primary care physician?
I can understand why you whine, when you have to constantly defend the failure in the White House. The reason no one on the right wants to talk about Obamacare is because they have all promised to get rid of it when they move into the White House. Done deal. It's a mess that needs to be erased. Gotta love your constant obsessive exaggeration when it comes to the emergency room primary care scenario. And I love how liberals lie about how ER treatment is free to those that don't have insurance. That's a real gasser. I don't know where you are from but if you go to the ER without insurance you still get the bill, and they still send collectors after you if you don't pay your bill. But, continue with uninformed liberal talking points that you get from those that just parrot liberal pundit talking points.
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04-08-2016, 01:50 PM
Oh, so you are going to lecture us on Christianity? What a joke! Who told you that Christians ever suggested that Jesus was blonde with blue eyes? And really, what difference does it make as to what his appearance was? And what does his appearance have to do with the topic of this thread? And what would you know about Christian compassion? It is obvious that you are a non-believer so please don't pretend to be an expert on religion.
Compassion? Where was all your compassion when it came to doing your patriotic duty for your country? Yes, yes, you can come on here and make up any fictitious history you wish. Where is your compassion when it comes to charity donations. I mean other than when you volunteer everyone else's earnings.
Without laws, you have anarchy. Where's your civility when it comes to order? Why should someone be able to jump the line for any purpose? You libtards disparage the wealthy because you feel they have special rights afforded to them due to their wealth, and then turn around and want every minority or vagabond to be able to jump the line when they are undeserving.
Get over yourself. It's easy to have compassion at other people's expense, isn't it?
Look at any of the movies about Jesus (Greatest Story Ever Told, The Bible, etc) and Jesus is the tall blonde. The famous paintings such as The Good Shepherd and of Jesus with the children show Him as the tall blonde.
Expert on religion, no, but for all my life a believer in Christianity.
Serving my country? Vietnam 1968. Prosthetic leg, thanks to it. Work at the Wildwood Soup Kitchen one day a week. How 'bout yourself?
Guest
04-08-2016, 02:02 PM
You just reinforced my statement. Bush did NOT circumvent the law with his E.O.s as Obumble has. Nice try though, even if it seems halfhearted at best. Insults to Obummer are warranted, since he has spent seven years insulting me and the rest of America. I do feel sorry for your need to defend him constantly though. It must be very tiring and ungratifying.
You are NOT worth my time!
Guest
04-08-2016, 02:09 PM
Look at any of the movies about Jesus (Greatest Story Ever Told, The Bible, etc) and Jesus is the tall blonde. The famous paintings such as The Good Shepherd and of Jesus with the children show Him as the tall blonde.
Expert on religion, no, but for all my life a believer in Christianity.
Serving my country? Vietnam 1968. Prosthetic leg, thanks to it. Work at the Wildwood Soup Kitchen one day a week. How 'bout yourself?I don't have anything to do with this recent conversation. Maybe a little back a few, I wanted to know why Obama was expected to change his name when he converted to Christianity.
I just wanted to thank you for your military service and helping out at the soup kitchen. You're a good man.
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04-08-2016, 03:26 PM
Look at your wife on Social Security who ever paid a dime into the system and now collecting half of what you get. Don't give her a pass.
Dear guest: I believe you will find that most husband and wives worked and earned their social security.
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04-08-2016, 03:30 PM
Did any of you actually read the article? This is not an "executive action". Obama is stating he will not prosecute, much like the military's former don't ask, don't tell policy. Texas, with other states joining in, are arguing this before the U.S. Supreme Court on the basis that the POTUS is obligated to enforce the laws of the United States. My gut feeling is the Court will rule for Obama since past Presidential acts of refusing to enforce a law have been permitted and have even become the law of the land.
Illegal aliens will still risk deportation. They will NOT be eligible for SSI, welfare, food stamps or other free programs. They would be eligible to legally work, pay taxes, collect earned Social Security, disability -- the same as any worker here. Is it the best idea in town? Nope, but I've seen and heard worse in my lifetime.
Under Obamacare illegals are entitled to emergency room care and as such it is over crowding many emergency rooms in New York, Calif etc and because of the over crowding many emergency rooms are just shutting down. do you suppose progressive discovered that they could pay illegals to vote them into office? I do
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04-08-2016, 03:32 PM
The only/ONLY reason Obama has not been impeached for not doing his job because there would be race riots in the street. Thanks to his inept job performance, it will probably be a long time before anyone in America will be willing to vote for another half-white man for president.
Obama has political cover from the media, educational institutions, unions the 47%
America is lost
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04-08-2016, 03:38 PM
Obama has political cover from the media, educational institutions, unions the 47%
America is lost
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Somalia needs you! Go now!
Guest
04-08-2016, 03:43 PM
Somalia needs you! Go now!
No thanks, too many liberals there. After all, isn't that where Obumble will be retiring to, his home town? I'm sure a lot of you will blindly follow the piper.
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04-08-2016, 03:57 PM
I can understand why you whine, when you have to constantly defend the failure in the White House. The reason no one on the right wants to talk about Obamacare is because they have all promised to get rid of it when they move into the White House. Done deal. It's a mess that needs to be erased. Gotta love your constant obsessive exaggeration when it comes to the emergency room primary care scenario. And I love how liberals lie about how ER treatment is free to those that don't have insurance. That's a real gasser. I don't know where you are from but if you go to the ER without insurance you still get the bill, and they still send collectors after you if you don't pay your bill. But, continue with uninformed liberal talking points that you get from those that just parrot liberal pundit talking points.
I understand why the only thing that you can do is criticize, condemn, and complain. It is only a mess in the states that wanted it to be that way. Have you read Trump's replacement? Of course, you haven't.
What is the collection rate for emergency room visits for people that don't have insurance? Why did they have to have a law that said that hospitals couldn't turn away people from the emergency ward that didn't have health insurance? Talking to you is like talking to a cement wall.
You are the gold standard for parroting Republican talking points.
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04-08-2016, 06:39 PM
I understand why the only thing that you can do is criticize, condemn, and complain. It is only a mess in the states that wanted it to be that way. Have you read Trump's replacement? Of course, you haven't.
What is the collection rate for emergency room visits for people that don't have insurance? Why did they have to have a law that said that hospitals couldn't turn away people from the emergency ward that didn't have health insurance? Talking to you is like talking to a cement wall.
You are the gold standard for parroting Republican talking points.
Good luck in your delusion. Yes, ER's are not allowed to turn people away. They also charge them regardless of what libtards tell you.
Guest
04-08-2016, 08:06 PM
Dear guest: I believe you will find that most husband and wives worked and earned their social security.
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That could be true but wives generally speaking make less than their husbands. So they can get half of what the husbands SS is at 66 and then earn interest on her SS till 70.5.
Then she can collect hers at a higher rate. Thats what mine is doing.
Guest
04-09-2016, 02:51 AM
An interesting thought:
Hospitals are required to report to the police any gun shot victims, yet they have to let illegal aliens have a free pass.
I wonder when the "Black Lives Matter" radicals will claim discrimination to blacks because of the injustice of requiring all gun shots victims be reported to the police.
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04-09-2016, 04:02 AM
Dear Guest: women have made substantial gains these last 30 years. More women go to college and more post graduate work then men. Men comprise a larger share of the unemployed. In other words I am not buying into the war on women issue.
All one gets from progressive presidential candidates are faux informational cascades.
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04-09-2016, 07:53 AM
Dear Guest: women have made substantial gains these last 30 years. More women go to college and more post graduate work then men. Men comprise a larger share of the unemployed. In other words I am not buying into the war on women issue.
All one gets from progressive presidential candidates are faux informational cascades.
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Of course your NOT......That's called Male Privilege Syndrome!
Guest
04-09-2016, 08:53 AM
Dear Guest: women have made substantial gains these last 30 years. More women go to college and more post graduate work then men. Men comprise a larger share of the unemployed. In other words I am not buying into the war on women issue.
All one gets from progressive presidential candidates are faux informational cascades.
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Concerning the war on women, aim a little lower.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Women
All you get from conservative presidential candidates is diversion. Details on how you going to accomplish your political grandstanding is for people, who know what they are talking about.
Guest
04-09-2016, 08:59 AM
Concerning the war on women, aim a little lower.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Women
All you get from conservative presidential candidates is diversion. Details on how you going to accomplish your political grandstanding is for people, who know what they are talking about.
I'm glad that you know how to cut and paste a link, because you sure do not know how to make a coherent sentence. It's no wonder why you would trust radical liars such as Hillary and Bernie. They do know how to prey on the simple folks.
Guest
04-09-2016, 10:24 AM
I'm glad that you know how to cut and paste a link, because you sure do not know how to make a coherent sentence. It's no wonder why you would trust radical liars such as Hillary and Bernie. They do know how to prey on the simple folks.
Trump's supporters are exactly who? The bulk of them are people without college educations (ie: simple folks). You must be one of them. A coherent sentence to you is one that doesn't contain more than four words. Keep it short. Make it simple.
I support Bernie, or Hillary, and you know this how? You are all knowing, and all seeing despite all evidence to the contrary. I am a registered Republican. My hope is the Republican party will come to their senses, and make John Kasich their nominee.
Guest
04-09-2016, 11:58 AM
Trump's supporters are exactly who? The bulk of them are people without college educations (ie: simple folks). You must be one of them. A coherent sentence to you is one that doesn't contain more than four words. Keep it short. Make it simple.
I support Bernie, or Hillary, and you know this how? You are all knowing, and all seeing despite all evidence to the contrary. I am a registered Republican. My hope is the Republican party will come to their senses, and make John Kasich their nominee.
Sure.
Guest
04-09-2016, 11:58 AM
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Guest
04-09-2016, 12:27 PM
Their children, born here, are US citizens and they ARE eligible for welfare, mom goes along for the ride. There was never any welfare reform. Mom lost HER welfare, but it was transferred to the kids, so in the end, it's the same or BETTER than before. A single mother with 4 kids can get benefits equaling $60,000 a year.
Thank God! Shouldn't have voted for that one either. Name me ONE "great" black politician who did good things for ALL, not just blacks.
Here is a study that says your link is wrong.
Welfare: Who (http://www.amren.com/features/2015/10/welfare-whos-on-it-whos-not/)
They say only 23% are white on welfare. Even though we're over 50% of the population. Many welfare reports group hispanics with whites. Blacks AND hispanics both make up the most welfare recipients. Over 50% of recent immigrants receive welfare.
So some Right Wing source cooks the numbers and you expect me to believe it? Seriously!
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04-09-2016, 12:30 PM
Trump's supporters are exactly who? The bulk of them are people without college educations (ie: simple folks). You must be one of them. A coherent sentence to you is one that doesn't contain more than four words. Keep it short. Make it simple.
I support Bernie, or Hillary, and you know this how? You are all knowing, and all seeing despite all evidence to the contrary. I am a registered Republican. My hope is the Republican party will come to their senses, and make John Kasich their nominee.
I was looking at Katich to as the only hope for me a Reagan Democrat. But then he defunded Planned Parenthood, an organization that poor women depend on for healthcare.
And don't bother to attack with the standard "body parts" which is totally bogus or the they do abortions line. They also do pap smears and provide access to birth control pills.
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04-09-2016, 12:58 PM
I was looking at Katich to as the only hope for me a Reagan Democrat. But then he defunded Planned Parenthood, an organization that poor women depend on for healthcare.
And don't bother to attack with the standard "body parts" which is totally bogus or the they do abortions line. They also do pap smears and provide access to birth control pills.
So do a lot of other places, that aren't gov subsidized. What a dumb comment, or maybe just a dumb thought. My wife says I need to have more patience with the mentally deficient. When you come up with the perfect candidate, I'll be looking at the sky for the second coming.
Guest
04-09-2016, 01:47 PM
So do a lot of other places, that aren't gov subsidized. What a dumb comment, or maybe just a dumb thought. My wife says I need to have more patience with the mentally deficient. When you come up with the perfect candidate, I'll be looking at the sky for the second coming.
Kasich has been described as he adult in the room. He also doesn't look sneaky. People like him. I think that's why he might be electable over Clinton.
How low is that bar? I know lot's of adults that would fit that description. I play a lot of pick up golf. I've met hundreds if not thousands down here that fit that description.
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04-09-2016, 03:22 PM
The 1%, white privilege, white male privilege, old white men, war on women, income inequality, a right to health care, free education, entitlement to forgiveness for student loans and mortgages because colleges made false promises and those bankers are just plain greedy beside owning a home is a right.
We believe that there is an intentional conspiracy nationally to prevent women from earning the same wage as a man
We believe in reproductive rights
We support diversity provided your not white, not military, not conservative not Christian.
We support the notion that selecting by minority quotas for our universities and colleges produces a better quality of students.
We support the notion that an elevation of minimum wage to $15 per hour is both fair and that a cap should be placed on executive salaries to narrow the salary gap between employee and management.
We support the Labor Department's government mandated overtime pay.
We also believe in that our federal government has an inexhaustible capacity to print money at will. Its akin to growing money on trees
As students we skipped Economics 101 so we could register for additional diversity courses.
Ad nauseam
We believe in rights but we shirk responsibilities and eschew consequences.
We are progressives
Personal Best Regards
Guest
04-09-2016, 03:26 PM
The 1%, white privilege, white male privilege, old white men, war on women, income inequality, a right to health care, free education, entitlement to forgiveness for student loans and mortgages because colleges made false promises and those bankers are just plain greedy beside owning a home is a right.
We believe that there is an intentional conspiracy nationally to prevent women from earning the same wage as a man
We believe in reproductive rights
We support diversity provided your not white, not military, not conservative not Christian.
We support the notion that selecting by minority quotas for our universities and colleges produces a better quality of students.
We support the notion that an elevation of minimum wage to $15 per hour is both fair and that a cap should be placed on executive salaries to narrow the salary gap between employee and management.
We support the Labor Department's government mandated overtime pay.
We also believe in that our federal government has an inexhaustible capacity to print money at will. Its akin to growing money on trees
As students we skipped Economics 101 so we could register for additional diversity courses.
Ad nauseam
We believe in rights but we shirk responsibilities and eschew consequences.
We are progressives
Personal Best RegardsAd nauseam
Guest
04-09-2016, 03:28 PM
Kasich has been described as he adult in the room. He also doesn't look sneaky. People like him. I think that's why he might be electable over Clinton.
How low is that bar? I know lot's of adults that would fit that description. I play a lot of pick up golf. I've met hundreds if not thousands down here that fit that description.
I like Kasich, but the more I learned about him the more moderate to liberal he seems. This country really needs a shot of hard right conservatism for a few years, to straighten it out. With all the stuff going on overseas, soon to be here in a major way, we need to be tough. You can't talk to terrorists. Muslims consider taking and negotiating to be a sign of weakness. I've been there and have seen it. We have to be tougher and harder than we really are. Kasich is a real nice guy, but I don't think he is the right guy for this time period. But, then again neither are the other two idiots. Both of them are showing their @$$es and it appears that it is just a matter of time before Kasich joins the fray. But, if the delegates at the convention wish to nominate him, he'll get my vote. But, so will either of the other two GOP retards. Anybody but Hillary or Bernie.
Guest
04-09-2016, 09:17 PM
The 1%, white privilege, white male privilege, old white men, war on women, income inequality, a right to health care, free education, entitlement to forgiveness for student loans and mortgages because colleges made false promises and those bankers are just plain greedy beside owning a home is a right.
We believe that there is an intentional conspiracy nationally to prevent women from earning the same wage as a man
We believe in reproductive rights
We support diversity provided your not white, not military, not conservative not Christian.
We support the notion that selecting by minority quotas for our universities and colleges produces a better quality of students.
We support the notion that an elevation of minimum wage to $15 per hour is both fair and that a cap should be placed on executive salaries to narrow the salary gap between employee and management.
We support the Labor Department's government mandated overtime pay.
We also believe in that our federal government has an inexhaustible capacity to print money at will. Its akin to growing money on trees
As students we skipped Economics 101 so we could register for additional diversity courses.
Ad nauseam
We believe in rights but we shirk responsibilities and eschew consequences.
We are progressives
Personal Best Regards I regret making the comment "ad nauseum." I thought it was a clever way to say that we have also heard this opinion many times before.
Someone reminded me a little while ago that writing keeps us sharp. Please keep writing and challenging others who don't agree with.
It keeps us thinking too.
What if we sorted this whole mess out?
I am hanging on to the belief that we all want the world to be a better place for our future kin.
Guest
04-09-2016, 09:33 PM
So, you do not agree with ANY of the Progressive points?
Guest
04-09-2016, 09:48 PM
I like Kasich, but the more I learned about him the more moderate to liberal he seems. This country really needs a shot of hard right conservatism for a few years, to straighten it out. With all the stuff going on overseas, soon to be here in a major way, we need to be tough. You can't talk to terrorists. Muslims consider taking and negotiating to be a sign of weakness. I've been there and have seen it. We have to be tougher and harder than we really are. Kasich is a real nice guy, but I don't think he is the right guy for this time period. But, then again neither are the other two idiots. Both of them are showing their @$$es and it appears that it is just a matter of time before Kasich joins the fray. But, if the delegates at the convention wish to nominate him, he'll get my vote. But, so will either of the other two GOP retards. Anybody but Hillary or Bernie.
When You Have Nothing Left To Lose, You Only Have Everything Left To Gain
A hardball player cannot change the desperate lives that oppose our way of life internationally or domestically. Hasn't history taught us anything? Who fights the good fight? The children of the poor. Have a heart. Follow the money.
God bless those of you who stepped up when they could have played the game.
Guest
04-10-2016, 09:56 AM
So, you do not agree with ANY of the Progressive points?
Pick a point, make a statement or a belief, I'll respond after I do some reading and thinking.
Guest
04-10-2016, 10:48 AM
Pick a point, make a statement or a belief, I'll respond after I do some reading and thinking.
How about mandated overtime pay? If your non-management employees work over 40 hours in a week, they must get time and a half. What is wrong with that?
Reproductive rights? A woman's body is hers. It should not be a legislative issue.
Colleges do not have minority quotas anymore. If you believe they do, please list the colleges and what the quotas are.
Tell us who said and where it was said that executives should have a pay cap.
Thanks.
Guest
04-10-2016, 11:13 AM
How about mandated overtime pay? If your non-management employees work over 40 hours in a week, they must get time and a half. What is wrong with that?
I don't see anything wrong with that.
Reproductive rights? A woman's body is hers. It should not be a legislative issue.
I don't know when a baby is a baby. I'm not that smart. A woman's body is hers and a baby's body is theirs.
Colleges do not have minority quotas anymore. If you believe they do, please list the colleges and what the quotas are.
Quotas don't bother me. I have a family member that can't get a good state department job. In my old state, so I am told, they draw from the Vets pile first. That's fair and well deserved to me.
Tell us who said and where it was said that executives should have a pay cap.
President Obama announced stricter rules on executive compensation at banks receiving "exceptional" levels of aid from the federal government. Some executives will have their annual salary capped at $500,000. Anything above that would have to be paid in stock that won't vest until the firm has paid back its government loans.
Thanks.
How about mandated overtime pay? If your non-management employees work over 40 hours in a week, they must get time and a half. What is wrong with that?
I don't see anything wrong with that.
Reproductive rights? A woman's body is hers. It should not be a legislative issue.
I don't know when a baby is a baby. I'm not that smart. A woman's body is hers and a baby's body is theirs.
Colleges do not have minority quotas anymore. If you believe they do, please list the colleges and what the quotas are.
Quotas don't bother me. I have a family member that can't get a good state department job. In my old state, so I am told, they draw from the Vets pile first. That's fair and well deserved to me. I think it's the same in colleges. Sometime you just have to suck it up and hope you guessed correctly.
Tell us who said and where it was said that executives should have a pay cap.
President Obama announced stricter rules on executive compensation at banks receiving "exceptional" levels of aid from the federal government. Some executives will have their annual salary capped at $500,000. Anything above that would have to be paid in stock that won't vest until the firm has paid back its government loans.
Obama Announces Executive Pay Caps : NPR (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=100272809)
I'm open minded and quite willing to change my opinion but not my values.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Guest
04-10-2016, 12:14 PM
How about mandated overtime pay? If your non-management employees work over 40 hours in a week, they must get time and a half. What is wrong with that?
Reproductive rights? A woman's body is hers. It should not be a legislative issue.
Colleges do not have minority quotas anymore. If you believe they do, please list the colleges and what the quotas are.
Tell us who said and where it was said that executives should have a pay cap.
Thanks.
Mandatory overtime pay? If the gov wants to pay their own overtime, fine. Private industry is private. Stay the h3ll away from it.
Reproductive rights? Fine, if a woman wants to have her tubes tied, that's her body. If she is pregnant, that is the baby's rights, not hers. She got pregnant, so she has no right to kill the baby. By law, yes but by morality it's call murder. The baby has rights too, but not in a liberal environment. How about post-natal murder? I have seen some children that would qualify. Would that also suit you? After all, according to you, that is part of the woman's body.
States have banned affirmative action in state colleges for some time now. Discrimination is still unlawful, as it should be. Being a victim of what some call reverse discrimination or a victim of affirmative action, I am glad that it has been banned.
Caps on CEO's? The gov has no right to regulate pay in the private sector. That is tantamount to socialism. There should not be a cap on anyone's pay, unless it is a gov job and the gov wishes to regulate it. I do not believe in Federally regulated minimum pay either.
Guest
04-10-2016, 12:42 PM
How about mandated overtime pay? If your non-management employees work over 40 hours in a week, they must get time and a half. What is wrong with that?
I don't see anything wrong with that.
Reproductive rights? A woman's body is hers. It should not be a legislative issue.
I don't know when a baby is a baby. I'm not that smart. A woman's body is hers and a baby's body is theirs.
Colleges do not have minority quotas anymore. If you believe they do, please list the colleges and what the quotas are.
Quotas don't bother me. I have a family member that can't get a good state department job. In my old state, so I am told, they draw from the Vets pile first. That's fair and well deserved to me. I think it's the same in colleges. Sometime you just have to suck it up and hope you guessed correctly.
Tell us who said and where it was said that executives should have a pay cap.
President Obama announced stricter rules on executive compensation at banks receiving "exceptional" levels of aid from the federal government. Some executives will have their annual salary capped at $500,000. Anything above that would have to be paid in stock that won't vest until the firm has paid back its government loans.
Obama Announces Executive Pay Caps : NPR (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=100272809)
I'm open minded and quite willing to change my opinion but not my values.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Why do "managers" get screwed? They don't deserve family time too?
A woman's body is hers, but the man should get go-no go authority too. If she doesn't want it but he does, it's her body, she can abort, he can't force her to keep it. If he doesn't want it and she does, he's no longer responsible for any support. Fair IS fair.
Schools and industry still have quotas but they're "under the table" quotas. Try not not hire enough minorities and see how fast the action groups, the bloodsuckers pounce on you. You're right, no official quotas, but there ARE certainly quotas.
Executive pay is obscene. The top 200 CEOs all make over $10 million a year. Equilar | New York Times - 200 Highest-Paid CEO Rankings (http://www.equilar.com/reports/18-200-highest-paid-CEO-rankings-2015.html) And at the same time, many of the companies get subsidies.
Guest
04-10-2016, 03:13 PM
Why do "managers" get screwed? They don't deserve family time too?
A woman's body is hers, but the man should get go-no go authority too. If she doesn't want it but he does, it's her body, she can abort, he can't force her to keep it. If he doesn't want it and she does, he's no longer responsible for any support. Fair IS fair.
Schools and industry still have quotas but they're "under the table" quotas. Try not not hire enough minorities and see how fast the action groups, the bloodsuckers pounce on you. You're right, no official quotas, but there ARE certainly quotas.
Executive pay is obscene. The top 200 CEOs all make over $10 million a year. Equilar | New York Times - 200 Highest-Paid CEO Rankings (http://www.equilar.com/reports/18-200-highest-paid-CEO-rankings-2015.html) And at the same time, many of the companies get subsidies.[/QUOTE]Did you ask me the questions?
Guest
04-10-2016, 04:25 PM
We are not talking about hourly wage jobs, Obama is looking at many salaried positions as being qualified for over time .
the minimum wage issue is going to have the opposite effect of its intention as will the overtime. Most businesses are small businesses and they will not be able to absorb mandates. they are already deeply under given government regulations.
As to a woman's productive rights. In some states the death of a pregnant woman either intentionally or unintentionally can be a basis for punishment of not only her death but that of the baby. Additionally what do you do with women who use abortion as a method of birth control. when does such a woman face the consequences for her irresponsibility?
Personal Best Regards:
Guest
04-10-2016, 05:40 PM
Why do "managers" get screwed? They don't deserve family time too?
A woman's body is hers, but the man should get go-no go authority too. If she doesn't want it but he does, it's her body, she can abort, he can't force her to keep it. If he doesn't want it and she does, he's no longer responsible for any support. Fair IS fair.
Schools and industry still have quotas but they're "under the table" quotas. Try not not hire enough minorities and see how fast the action groups, the bloodsuckers pounce on you. You're right, no official quotas, but there ARE certainly quotas.
Executive pay is obscene. The top 200 CEOs all make over $10 million a year. Equilar | New York Times - 200 Highest-Paid CEO Rankings (http://www.equilar.com/reports/18-200-highest-paid-CEO-rankings-2015.html) And at the same time, many of the companies get subsidies.Did you ask me the questions?[/QUOTE]
Overtime pay should be the prerogative of the business owner, not the gov nanny.
A womans body is her own, but a new soul is her responsibility to take care of it. If she kills it, she will be reminded of the murder when she appears in front of her maker. The baby should be protected by the gov more than the woman. My opinion as a person that believes that innocents should not be murdered.
Affirmative action is gone, thank goodness. It was a form of discrimination.
CEO's making too much money? How much is too much? Who dictates how much is too much, the government? I believe that Hollywood pays way too much to actors. I believe that athletes make too much money. Do I want the government to regulate how much private industry can pay someone? NOPE. Wealth envy is very ugly. No wonder so many democrats are ugly. :1rotfl:
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04-10-2016, 06:48 PM
So, we have the hourly wage employee overtime settled as being okay. It is the law of the land.
The woman's right of choice has been determined legal by the Supreme Court and is the law of the land. Cannot change it until the Court gets conservative.
Affirmative action is gone. No more issue there.
The only thing I saw on executive salary caps is regarding bank CEO's whose banks were bailed out. Nothing more. Case closed on that.
Seems as though the laundry list got shortened quite a bit.
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